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nolie
October 25th, 2010
11:25 pm
you think he will actually push hard for that Steve?
Playoffs!!!!
October 25th, 2010
11:29 pm
Read on the St. Louis Post-Dispatch website last month (written by either a beat reporter or columnist) that the chance of Albert Pujols staying in St. Louis when he becomes a free agent is only 50/50.
P'cola Brave
October 25th, 2010
11:29 pm
The nice thing about Upton is his speed and raw ability. It would be nice for the Braves to have a little speed on the team. I’m just not sure about Upton as a player. Will he just be another team distraction or change his ways.
Playoffs!!!!
October 25th, 2010
11:30 pm
Nolie—I was thanking you for agreeing with me on Rasmus not likely to come here
nolie
October 25th, 2010
11:32 pm
I would think that if they believe there is a chance that they will lose Phat Albert, there is no way they are gonna trade rasmus and he does not make enough money to be a determining factor in keeping Pujols if traded
nolie
October 25th, 2010
11:32 pm
oh I gotcha PO
P'cola Brave
October 25th, 2010
11:33 pm
If Pujols leaves STL I think he winds up in Boston or Mets. The Tex deal pretty much takes the Yanks out of the bidding because I’m sure he wants to play 1st still. To me those are the logical destinations if he leaves STL.
P'cola Brave
October 25th, 2010
11:35 pm
Rasmus would affect them resigning Carpenter and Wainwright. I don’t see Rasmus going anywhere either. They need to first determine if they can keep Pujols. If they can’t, they’ll need Rasmus. If they do keep him then they’ll probably move him.
Playoffs!!!!
October 25th, 2010
11:35 pm
Yeah, better not take a risk on Upton. At midseason, we might have to trade him to Toronto for a mediocre centerfielder.
glord1
October 25th, 2010
11:39 pm
I gotta agree with nolie. Just pull a Nancy Reagan on BJ Upton. “Just say no!” He is generally known as one of the biggest jerks in baseball. They have to get him out of Tampa before Longoria snaps his neck.
P'cola Brave
October 25th, 2010
11:40 pm
What about Rios. Hes got a lengthy contract but other than ‘09 hes been consistent.
Braveheart
October 25th, 2010
11:48 pm
Whatever, Nolie. KJ’s road OPS was higher than Prado’s road OPS this season. Does Prado stink too?
DS1
October 25th, 2010
11:49 pm
The comments from LaRussa on the Rasmus situation last year is very telling about Tony. Great manager, but has been known to air it out a few times over the years. I’d think he would have made the situation worse than it was by his statements.
Upton has been a real head case. Does a move change him? While we’re at it lets get Elijah Dukes too!
We could rename the club the Atlanta Bad-Asses!
Tomas
October 25th, 2010
11:52 pm
Upton would improve the defense a lot….It would give the Braves their first legit base stealing threat since Furcal, he has power potential having done it before and he is still young and right handed.
Wouldn’t require a top prospect or anything, he’ll make around 4 million in his second arbitration year.
nolie
October 25th, 2010
11:53 pm
man dem KJ lovers just never give up
P'cola Brave
October 25th, 2010
11:53 pm
Tomas
I don’t think Upton comes cheap. Even though hes had his problems in Tampa they don’t seem inclined to move him for anything less than a stellar package.
Ray Parker Jr.
October 25th, 2010
11:54 pm
Refuse assignment to minors while with Braves.
Traded to Mets. Stinks playing there too.
Traded again to Rangers and going to World Series.
That is fair. Right?
count_schemula
October 25th, 2010
11:54 pm
“Media mogul Ted Turner announced Monday that he will give $80 million to a United Nations foundation to fight childhood polio and measles in Nigeria, Africa’s most populous nation.”
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
nolie
October 25th, 2010
11:56 pm
Tomas Upton’s defense in 2010 was very sub-par. no way to know whether it will become acceptable again or not. if it is because of his hitting problems than maybe not unless he starts hitting again. it could even be tyhe result of bad attitude as he is known for his moodiness. Nobody who wanted escobrat gone should want anything to do with Upton
DS1
October 25th, 2010
11:56 pm
Sometimes we get to excited about some splits. Lots of guys hit a lot better at home. Others are consistent both home and away (Mac and Heyward comes to mind last year.).
Others hit worse on the road. Prado would be one Braves in that category.
Kinda hard to look at splits for guys who just generally sucked (McLouth, Cabrera, etc)
Watching some Yes on one of the satellite channels…………..My fav song “Roundabout” being played right now. Steve Howe playing my GIbson ES175D. Well, actually it’s his, but I have one just like it.
glord1
October 25th, 2010
11:56 pm
Tomas even though the Rays are willing to move Upton they will not give him away. It would take something pretty good to get him. Atleast a top prospect.
nolie
October 25th, 2010
11:57 pm
Ray, where did you ever get the idea that the world is a fair place? How old are you bud?
P'cola Brave
October 25th, 2010
11:57 pm
I like KJ as much as the next guy but he still has to prove that last year wasn’t a fluke. I’m happy he did well but I’d like to see him perform consistently before he came back.
Ray Parker Jr.
October 25th, 2010
11:58 pm
I want to say the Rangers will win it all but they have so many ex Braves connections that they are sure to lose just off of that.
DS1
October 25th, 2010
11:58 pm
Ray Jr.
That is the true representation of the phrase “Falls into a pile of dog sheet and comes up smelling like a rose!”
Sometimes even a blind squirrel finds a nut!
nolie
October 25th, 2010
11:59 pm
when there is a 200 plus point spread and the home park is known as a hitters park then the spread is meaningful
Ray Parker Jr.
October 25th, 2010
11:59 pm
I guess the world is not fair or we would not be on this blog. We would be in a hot tub with our soul mates.
nolie
October 26th, 2010
12:02 am
especially in a case like Young in ‘zona where the splits are that way every year. It really is a bit too early to be serious about KJ being all that terrible away though the splits were large. It’s just so much fun to tweek the Kelly lovers every so often. I know I should be a better person, but I am weak.
P'cola Brave
October 26th, 2010
12:02 am
I think I saw some love for Frenchy on the blog earlier and I wouldn’t be opposed to signing him to play LF. Of course we would have to upgrade CF as well. Maybe a Dejesus, Ellsbury or Podsednik in this case who can hit at the top of the order. Love him or hate him Frenchy still plays pretty good defense and has a rocket of an arm. Wouldn’t be bad in the lower part of the order.
Braveheart
October 26th, 2010
12:02 am
“Media mogul Ted Turner announced Monday that he will give $80 million to a United Nations foundation to fight childhood polio and measles in Nigeria, Africa’s most populous nation.”
I know it makes me an arsehole, but I gotta admit that I do get really annoyed when Ted gives all of this money away to charities instead of baseball players
DS1
October 26th, 2010
12:02 am
Ray
If I weren’t pulling for the Giants since I lived in the bay area for 15 years, I’d still pull against the Rangers purely for the Francoeur factor; though there are a lot of players on the Rangers that I like. Young, Hamilton, Lee, Cruz, etc.
That thing they did at the celebration so Hamilton could join them was top notch in my book.
nolie
October 26th, 2010
12:04 am
I will sooo pass on Jeff
nolie
October 26th, 2010
12:05 am
screw baseball players, I’ll take 10% of that
glord1
October 26th, 2010
12:05 am
Going to get Frenchy is like marrying your ex wife again. Probably is not going to work the second time either.
DS1
October 26th, 2010
12:06 am
nolie
C’mon, give yourself to the dark side. You know you want to be a KJ fan. You even secretly wish for Ryan Freel to come out of retirement! It is your DESTINY!
(in his best Darth Vader voice!)
nolie
October 26th, 2010
12:07 am
nostalgia must be even stronger than neuralgia
DS1
October 26th, 2010
12:08 am
nolie
I am a simple man. I’d be happy with 10% of your 10%……not greedy here, no way.
But you know, WW always takes the side of the players. He’d give it all to them if he could!
Braveheart
October 26th, 2010
12:09 am
screw baseball players, I’ll take 10% of that
I won’t even get that greedy. Just pay off all my debt, so that I don’t owe anyone a dime, and I can just live off whatever I happen to earn, and I’ll be happy.
nolie
October 26th, 2010
12:09 am
actually I never had anything against KJ. He was just too streaky. Even though I was pushing Marteeen from AAA I at one time thought that Kelly had more promise. but Prado has lived up to his more that Kelly has to his own IMO
DS1
October 26th, 2010
12:10 am
WW
IF somebody paid off all our debt, what would we have to beatch about then???
glord1
October 26th, 2010
12:10 am
If we are going to bring back some ex Braves playing for the Rangers can I pick Feliz and Andrus?
nolie
October 26th, 2010
12:11 am
yeah BH but my earnin’ days are long gone and i was too carefree and jumped from job to job as i got bored too many times. I could use at least 1% anyway.
DS1
October 26th, 2010
12:12 am
I have always thought KJ would do better long term than Prado, but I think I was probably wrong. I always liked Prado, just expected him to return to earth eventually.
When we were in CO for the 3 game set, he hit a frickin MONSTER HR to dead CF. Tomahawked it!
nolie
October 26th, 2010
12:12 am
you can have Andrus glord, I’ll take Feliz
nolie
October 26th, 2010
12:13 am
KJ has the better tools no doubt, but less skills
Braveheart
October 26th, 2010
12:14 am
IF somebody paid off all our debt, what would we have to beatch about then???
Women and Bobby Cox
DS1
October 26th, 2010
12:17 am
WW
I gotta be careful here. My wife knows my moniker!
nolie
October 26th, 2010
12:18 am
having a woman to beetch about can actually be a better thing than not
DS1
October 26th, 2010
12:18 am
Maybe FW should just drop anybody with a hefty salary, bring up Young, Harrilchak, Hicks, Pastornicky and then go out and sign Cliff Lee! We could win ‘em all 3-2.
DS1
October 26th, 2010
12:20 am
nolie
Amen. After 33+ years, don’t know what I’d do without this one. I definitely married up in class by about 5 steps! Gotta keep my nose clean and not screw it up.
Nobleman
October 26th, 2010
12:24 am
I can’t believe somone even mentioned Swisher, how soon we forget Milky, another Yankee castoff, fool me once?
DS1
October 26th, 2010
12:26 am
Nobleman
How can you even mention Melky and Swisher in the same sentence………….
No comparison. Swisher is starter material. Melky is a 4th man tops.
glord1
October 26th, 2010
12:33 am
nolie
October 26th, 2010
12:12 am
you can have Andrus glord, I’ll take Feliz
I dont know nolie. In 12 months I believe Kimbrel will be very similiar to Feliz but Gonzalez will not be Andrus at short. As good as Feliz is I think I will be missing Andrus more next summer as I watch Gonzalez play SS again.
Braveheart
October 26th, 2010
12:38 am
If they didn’t trade Elvis for Tex, they would’ve traded Elvis for Peavy. So be thankful we traded Elvis for Tex.
Nobleman
October 26th, 2010
12:38 am
Was not Melky a starter with the Yankees?, I’d stay away from dealing with that team and I live in NY.BEEN A BRAVES fan since 1965.
nolie
October 26th, 2010
12:42 am
Gonzales had a better defensive year than Andrus in ‘10 by a fair amount and Andrus has crappy stats even though hitting in one of the best hitters parks in baseball. I’m not certain the guy will ever break 750 even there. and no power at all limits his effectiveness at lead off IMO. Prado played a lot less bur scored more runs for a less potent offense even though Andrus stole more bases. I am just not sold on the guy as a hitter yet, a good post season does not a hitter make, just ask Lempke. I’m sude Elvis will bounce back defensively, anfdI would like him a bit more than Gonzo but not enough to get worked up about that trade.
nolie
October 26th, 2010
12:45 am
Prado played a lot less
meant with a lot less health IIRC
DS1
October 26th, 2010
12:46 am
nite folks…………
nolie
October 26th, 2010
12:50 am
night DS
MJ
October 26th, 2010
1:12 am
Baylor needs to be the hitting coach – give him whatever he wants. Heyward needs help, and Baylor would be perfect for the job. Open your checkbook Braves and do something good for all your players. Now is the time to get a proven, respected person. Ex Braves in the World Series are interesting. Renteria, and DeRosa, on the Giants, Andrus, Feliz, Frenchy, and Harrison on the Rangers. The Braves mgt has done a fantastic job of giving away talent the last 5 years and getting nothing in return. We have two ex -Brave shortstops playing in the Worlkd Series. One incredibly young with a huge future in front of him. The second a journeyman, but certainly better than Escobar, who replaced him. At this years Allstar game, we had Andrus and Furcal playiong for the NL & AL. The braves have let so many quality players go it’s ridiculous. When you start trading the heart of your minor league system to sign players represented by Scott Boras, you know you are being taken advantage of. Schueholz and Wren have had their 15 minutes of fame. They need to be replaced. Let’s let Mr. Blank own the team, and bring his personnel guy with him. They know how to build and maintain winners.
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
October 26th, 2010
1:13 am
DSI @ 11:49 p.m. – “We could rename the club the Atlanta Bad-Asses!”
LMAO
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
October 26th, 2010
1:14 am
MJ – Baylor was just named hitting coach for the D-Backs earlier today.
nolie
October 26th, 2010
1:24 am
I think I saw that they gave him a two year contract, is that right Frank? Something the Braves don’t do for the most part.
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
October 26th, 2010
1:55 am
Nolie – yeah, he got a 2 year deal…*sigh*.
Grrrrr…I was kinda hoping he was coming back here..but oh well. Can’t cry over spilled milk, as they say.
nolie
October 26th, 2010
2:11 am
I too would have liked to have seen him come back.
Ghetto Braves
October 26th, 2010
2:16 am
Let’s trade for BJ Upton and Delmon Young, then trade McLouth to Russia!
nolie
October 26th, 2010
2:38 am
Young I’ll take, Upton I’ll pass on.
Bobby's Cox
October 26th, 2010
3:57 am
Let me get the facts straight…..
1. We trade Yunel Escobar to Toronto this year because he’s a clubhouse cancer.
2. Names that came up on the blog today for OF were Rasmus, Kemp, and Upton
3. Kemp is called a RAT and his attitude, show boating, whatever, is complained upon
4. Upton’s attitude was also talked about
5. Rasmus, who demanded a trade from St. Louis, had their best player and manager upset with him midseason, has baggage with his father, hasn’t had a good of a season in his short career as Upton or Kemp, AND would maybe take more prospects to get via trade, didn’t even get 1 iota of bad rep from the bloggers here about his attitude.
I don’t get it….
Jeff R
October 26th, 2010
6:05 am
Bobby’s Cox makes good points in the overnight comments.
I’d add: Wren’s not stupid. He’s not going to give up the farm for Rasmus, which is what St. Louis will ask for. Now, if it comes to trading Rasmus, the Cards have a lower than expected ask, then… who knows?
Wren’s not trading Prado. What happens if – when – Chipper breaks down, provided Chipper even makes it to the regular season? Also, imagine the infield minus Prado. Hole at 2B. Aging, just adequate shortstop. 39-year-old third baseman greatly prone to injuries.
Omar? I think he’s the super sub Wren and Cox envision him to be. Not strongly impressed with Omar’s defense. I don’t think Omar’s an everyday player. So, less Martin, doesn’t sound like a winning infield.
Upton, if available, seems more get-able. He’s young, so he may still find his groove. Sometimes players need to mature before than settle in and play up to potential.
Couch Tater
October 26th, 2010
7:04 am
IF somebody paid off all our debt, what would we have to beatch about then???
Engineered obsolescence. (I replaced my water heater, last year. Life expectancy of the new one 8-10 years. The old one had a date of 1966.)
Engineered obsolescence II. ( I’m getting bids for my home A/C. It was replaced in 2001.)
Engineered obsolescence III. (PMS)
I was just joking, baby. Really… I was. IT WAS a damn JOKE!
What’s the weather is supposed to do, today?
London Calling
October 26th, 2010
7:11 am
MJ. You do know who we got for Renteria, don’t you? Jeez man – that was one of the most one-sided trades in history!
jeffrey d
October 26th, 2010
7:34 am
Jeez man – that was one of the most one-sided trades in history!
Depends on how you look at it…we got Jurrjens and essentially half of Nate McLouth
jeffrey d
October 26th, 2010
7:38 am
But yes, I’m not sure how we got 2 good prospects for an aging Renteria with 1 year left on his contract.
On another note, I think we sometimes greatly overvalue the worth/influence of a hitting coach
UnretireBobbyCox
October 26th, 2010
7:55 am
DOB: any info from your internal sources with the Braves whether Robert or .Don have a shot at getting the job to be the Braves’ hitting coach next season? I believe the Braves would be foolish not to take a close look at their resumés…
Braveheart
October 26th, 2010
8:13 am
Engineered obsolescence.
I forgot about that. Yes, very annoying. As the old joke goes, they can put man on the moon, but can’t get a man more than 40 miles a gallon in his car, can’t sell the man an American car that doesn’t die at 100,000 miles. Screw getting me on the moon, just get me to work.
yogi2
October 26th, 2010
8:15 am
Why even mention FranQueor, He was run out of Atlanta and New York. He Should have bee n tarred and feathered. DOB needs to find something better to report. He is stinking up this place.
yogi2
October 26th, 2010
8:18 am
Frank Wrens’ way of evaluating outfielders is disgusting
CB
October 26th, 2010
8:29 am
Has there been any statement from the Braves regarding the payroll for 2011? Not expecting a lot,but would be nice for the fans if they said there will be an increase.
richbrave
October 26th, 2010
8:45 am
UPTON, UPTON, he’s our man. If he can’t do it nobody can!
TennesseePaul
October 26th, 2010
8:49 am
Has there been any statement from the Braves regarding the payroll for 2011
Statement? Not really what they do, make annual official declarations of payroll figures. But as far as the front office and where the payroll will be they said something along the lines of: “Payroll will be like last year and it may even increase a little bit.”
Last year payroll was less than the year before and that was termed an “increase” when counting in “real dollars.”
So if last year is the guide, as the front office listed, payroll will decrease… or another way to say it, payroll will increase by adding a negative number to it.
CB
October 26th, 2010
8:57 am
TP,kind of like my retirement portfolio.
DS1
October 26th, 2010
8:58 am
Payroll? Payroll? PAYROLL? Are we talking about PAYROLL!!
Actually, there are probably too many factors to truly say whether it goes up or down. Bonus’, insurance payments, incentives, etc.
Up? Down? Who’s to say?
To be honest, I don’t get too excited about it one way or the other. We’ll have a good idea about payroll when opening day hits, or maybe not.
DS1
October 26th, 2010
8:59 am
C’mon CB, stop with those negative waves, man!
LTBF
October 26th, 2010
9:37 am
Good morning all. When the heck does the WS start? HURRY UP, I miss baseball.
David O'Brien
October 26th, 2010
9:40 am
Braveheart, another example regarding engineered obsolescence: My electric stove is the original one installed when house was built in 1953. And it works great. I’m going to bet that none of your average stoves built today will be in use 57 years from now.
DS1
October 26th, 2010
9:48 am
DOB
Your stove is 2 years older than I am and probably works a heckuva lot better!
I am on my 3rd refridgerator since I moved to my present location 8.5 years ago. Granted the first one was old when we moved in, but……
Sheesh!
McFann O O – 6
October 26th, 2010
9:51 am
DOB My electric stove is the original one installed when house was built in 1953.
Cool! My Grandparents have a 50 year-old refrigerator.
al
October 26th, 2010
9:52 am
Colby Rasmus has received the “Star Treatment” since he was a member of the Phenix City, Alabama Little League team that made it to the finals of the LL World Series. His father, Tony Rasmus was the coach of that team and parlayed their success into a job as baseball coach of Russell County, Alabama high school where he has been remarkably successful – perennial contender for state championship and has had several players drafted highly. That said, Coach Rasmus has a tendency to say and do things that infuriate a lot of people. The Braves have had Colby’s younger brother in their organization for several years so I am sure that they are knowledgeable about the baggage that Colby Rasmus will bring with him if they were to pursue a trade for him.
O.J.
October 26th, 2010
9:58 am
Hey DOB, who is the head scout for the Braves right now? Is Jim Fregosi still the guy or did he go somewhere else?
CraZyTRaDeMaN
October 26th, 2010
10:01 am
I’ve had a both of my AC units replaced my hot water heater replaced a dishwasher replaced and a new fridge all in the last 2 years. All of these appliances were less then 10 years old. I’m a firm believer in they don’t make things like they use to.
Efrim
October 26th, 2010
10:04 am
Young I’ll take, Upton I’ll pass on.
nolie, you would take Delmon Young but not BJ Upton? Isn’t Young just as bad a clubhouse guy? Plus, in terms of defense, isn’t Young one of the worst defensive left fielders in baseball? I guess if you really think he broke through this year and he is going to continue to put up .298/.333/.493 type years. You may not be a fan of it, but here is Delmon’s Wins above replacement stats over the last 4 seasons: 0.1 in 07, -0.7 in 08, -1.1 in 09, 2.1 in 2010. Plus, he has had a total of 40 walks in the last two seasons. I don’t know, I’m just not a fan at all of his.
GTSteve
October 26th, 2010
10:05 am
Anybody interested on Nick Swisher for LF
McFann O O – 6
October 26th, 2010
10:06 am
CraZyTRaDeMaN I’m a firm believer in they don’t make things like they use to.
For sure…that pretty much applies to everything.
DS1
October 26th, 2010
10:08 am
Nick Swisher would be a huge upgrade……..
David O'Brien
October 26th, 2010
10:12 am
O.J., Fregosi is still the guy. He has been considered for at least one managerial post this winter.
Chuck M.
October 26th, 2010
10:13 am
I say if the Braves want to trade JJ and venters for Kemp.then do it or JJ and a prospect for Cory Hart.JJ will be a free agent at the end of the year and his agent is Scott Boras!
GTSteve
October 26th, 2010
10:13 am
Nick is a great guy too, I went to Spring Training 09..Yankees and Braves…he signed autographs for at least an hour just before the game, while the super-stars ignored and avoided the fans.
keylargo
October 26th, 2010
10:16 am
Anybody interested on Nick Swisher for LF
I bet Wren made a run at him last year, but had to settle for Melky.
David O'Brien
October 26th, 2010
10:17 am
I say if the Braves want to trade JJ and venters for Kemp.then do it or JJ and a prospect for Cory Hart.JJ will be a free agent at the end of the year and his agent is Scott Boras!– Chuck M.
Chuck, this is Jurrjens’ first year of arbitration eligibility. He won’t be a free agent until after the 2013 season.
timthebrave
October 26th, 2010
10:18 am
I’m loving that it’s not a phillies vs yankees series. My prediction is Rangers in 6. I’m cheering for francouer to win it otherwise I would be going for the Giants since they are the national league team. Still wishing it was the Braves…..