Jurrjens has knee ’scoped, should be ready for spring

Braves pitcher Jair Jurrjens had arthroscopic knee surgery for a lateral meniscus tear in his right knee, and the team said he should be ready when spring training begins in February.

A series of injuries – shoulder, thumb, hamstring and knee – limited Jurrjens to 20 starts in 2010, and he finished with a 7-6 record and 4.64 ERA. That was more than two runs higher than his ERA in 2009, when he went 14-10 in 34 starts.

His 2.60 ERA in 2009 was the third-lowest among National League starting pitchers.

Jurrjens reported to 2010 spring training with a sore shoulder after making an awkward throw during a pickup game in his native Curacao a week earlier. That put him behind other pitchers during camp, and a jammed thumb also slowed him during the spring.

He missed two months before the All-Star break with a strained left hamstring that he reinjured just before he was to return from the disabled list.

Jurrjens hurt his knee during a Sept. 17 bullpen session between starts, and Jurrjens wasn’t available during the Braves’ September postseason drive or their loss to San Francisco in the National League Division Series, Atlant’s first playoff appearance in five years.

The arthroscopic surgery was done Tuesday by Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham.

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ONE

October 20th, 2010
6:45 pm

If I were Wren, I will trade him even though he is a solid arm. He’s agent is Scott Boras and it will be pretty interesting to watch where Hanson will end up.

P.S. Braves fans want another TEd Turner!!! (how about MArk Cuban)

tdmorgan

October 20th, 2010
7:02 pm

ONE, i would not mind having Cuban at all as a new owner. He has been on the last 2 sales of major league teams…why not us. It just depends on who else bids, if Blank bids then there is a pretty good chance that he will get the team. I think Cuban really would have liked to have owned the Rangers because of proximity to the Mavs.

I think with Hanson so far from arbitration that we should hopefully have a new owner before then. I wouldn’t mind trading Jurrjens if and only if it brought an up and coming outfielder with pop to our lineup. There is no reason to sacrifice a young starting pitcher without getting an immediate return.

Bravesfan79

October 20th, 2010
7:13 pm

Atlanta should not trade Jurrjens. I would trust him in a postseason start more than Hanson.

J-Hey = MVP

October 20th, 2010
7:22 pm

I wouldn’t give up top talent for a pitcher coming off 4 injuries, plus we need him with no Medlen.

MtnDawg

October 20th, 2010
7:27 pm

I’d love to see Blank buy the team and invest enough to get a couple of quality pieces to make the Braves an A level competitor again.

I think Jurrjens still has great value to the team, whether that be staying and being another premier starter, or as a trade to bring in the much needed outfield power.

Bama Brave

October 20th, 2010
7:28 pm

Is there a reason to Why we need to trade a pitcher?

Terry Pendleton

October 20th, 2010
7:31 pm

I don’t care who we trade. We are deep in starting pitching. Even the bullpen is good. Offense is ANEMIC as usual as well as our basestealing. Now that Bobby Cox is gone, hopefully his trying to “build a championship around starting pitching and everything else will take care of itself theory” is out the door with him.
The bottom line is, if the Braves are going to competete, we are going to have to make some moves, going to have to spend some money. Derek Lee obvioulsy is not the power hitter solution we were hoping for. We need power on the infield corners and power and basestealers in the outfield- but that will not come cheap. On top of that, the Braves are going to have to clean house too. Looking forward to a lot of new names on the roster next year and a new attitude. Let’s go Bravos!

Supes

October 20th, 2010
7:51 pm

If he is not traded now…it will be in the near future. Scott Boras client…and Braves look like they have more young pitching coming up.

mike

October 20th, 2010
7:52 pm

“and a new attitude”????

About the only thing the team had going for it this past season WAS it’s attitude.

Tony

October 20th, 2010
8:22 pm

I hope fat boy gets in shape…if not, please trade him. Cody Ross is proving what one legitimate Major League outfielder can mean to a ballclub.

Puma

October 20th, 2010
8:35 pm

I just checked out a list of 2011 free agents (I don’t know how comprehensive it really was this early on), but there really are not too many good names out there. Beyond Crawford and Werth, it kind of sucks. I think the only way we get an impact bat is by trade. Not a good year for outfielders, or anything else really although some good pitchers are out there.

Puma

October 20th, 2010
8:38 pm

Even with above comments in mind, I do not think we could get what we would want for JJ considering his injuries this past year. I think Huddy and Hansen are the only guys who would net any real value, but I am not for trading either one of them.

newkid

October 20th, 2010
8:46 pm

Sometimes with sarcasm (but sometimes not) some here have made reference to the ‘extra lbs’ JJ carried in ‘10. This really could be an early indication of lack of discipline and less than full commitment to excellence. If so, now could indeed be the time to sell high.

gumbylovespokey

October 20th, 2010
9:20 pm

The Braves seem in a bit of a predicament. They have two players who have proven they should be everyday players with only one place to put one of them, assuming Chipper is back at third everyday, big assumption at this point. They have a relative wealth of pitching. I smell a trade and I do not like the idea of giving up Prado, Infante, or Jurrjens. We are stuck with McClouth, our “outfielder with pop” may be Nate with a rootbeer in CF. This season and the playoffs are proving baseball is being dominated by pitching again, like it was in the late 60s now that the hitters are no longer roided up. We will have two #3 hitters, a #5, a#6, but still no legit #4, which has been our problem before and after Andruw J’s 50+ homer season. The really big boppers are going to be few and far between in the near future. I would hoard all the high quality pitching I could and be just as happy with an outstanding defensive outfielder next year. Our infield will be stronger on the right side already, and the left side could be. I think we would still have an above average chance. We are not going to dominate like 96, but we lost the WS that year and it looks like the Yanks won’t even make it this year. We will have to scratch and claw for 2011. I have no desire to vacate my job but yes, I would like to be FW right now. Pitching and D for 2011!

lojak777

October 20th, 2010
9:52 pm

I keep saying and nobody will listen….the Braves need to get with Chipper to defer about 10mil of his 13 mil contract. He is holding the team up by not knowing for sure whether or not he will be back (he/we won’t know whether or not he’ll be able to play at a high level until the middle of spring training) . He doesn’t need the money now-but the Braves desperately do. That cash plus the additional monies available would allow the team to get one or two great hitters to complement the pitching.

InFrediWeTrust

October 20th, 2010
10:21 pm

I agree with the poster that said we should trade him. We got to the playoffs this year basically without him. When healthy he is a solid pitcher, but lately he has had some injury concerns.

He could land a potential impact player in return, and we do have plenty of starting pitchers coming up soon, or already here. Go ahead and trade him.

InFrediWeTrust

October 20th, 2010
10:23 pm

I also agree that the Braves FO needs to get with Chipper and say listen, if you want to win another WS before you retire, we need some of your money to sign a impact bat. I bet Chipper would be willing to do something to defer his money so he could have one last shot at a WS Title.

sampf

October 20th, 2010
10:46 pm

jurrjens for nelson cruz…

lee baker

October 20th, 2010
11:20 pm

jj, delgado or vizcanio not both, mclouth and dunn
for ryan braun then kawakami beachy schafer and cash
if need be for chone figgins
prado 2b hinskie hudson kimbrel
heyward rf diaz hanson venters
chipper 3b infante lowe moylan
braun lf diory vazquez oflaherty
mccann c ross minor saito
gonzo ss m young martinez
freeman 1b s marek
figgins cf

what do u guys think

JASon

October 20th, 2010
11:27 pm

There have been 6 total errors committed in both LCS series so far.
There was 7 total errors committed by the braves alone in the NLDS.

the truth...

October 20th, 2010
11:57 pm

All we heard was we couldn’t count on rookies to play in September and in the playoffs….got to have the seasoned vets…

Then we have Buster Posey…..

we might have done better with …say Diory Hernandez at 2nd? I know a rookie….

#1 Heyward Fan

October 21st, 2010
12:00 am

Can someone keep me in check here. Just shooting from the hip here, but does the below look pretty accurate going into next year?

Hudson, Hanson, Jurrjens, Lowe, Minor

1. Infante 2B
2. Heyward RF
3. Prado 3B
4. Gonzalez SS
5. McCan C
6. Freeman 1B
7. McClouth CF (???)
8. Ankiel LF

This is if Chipper retires (which at this point I think we really need him to, and take over the hitting coach role from TP)

DaTruth

October 21st, 2010
12:06 am

Where are you fat azz feely fans? Losing pheels good doesnt it? Goin down, burning in flames.
R u lovin ole Cholly now? How bout OOOOzwald?
Go enjoy it azzwipes—You deserve it.

Dudep2

October 21st, 2010
12:34 am

#1 Heyward Fan I see the lineup looking more like

1. Infante LF
2. Prado 2nd
3. Chipper 3rd
4. McCann C
5. Heyward RF
6. Gonzalez SS
7. Freeman 1st
8. McClouth CF
9. Hudson/Hanson/Jurrjens/Lowe/Minor or Beachy

Not saying its the ideal lineup but more than likely that’s how it will shape up if Chipper comes back.

Nobleman

October 21st, 2010
1:25 am

Still no word on possible batting coach????????????

#1 Heyward Fan

October 21st, 2010
1:44 am

@Dupep2 – Infante, Chipper, and Prado in the same lineup….WOW I think this is a great lineup that I hadn’t thought of. Can Infante play CF? I really miss the flare of having a lightning quick CF like the days of AJ catching fly’s that should have dropped for a single. Can you imagine your lineup with Heyward maturing to a decent power hitter and possibly Freeman having a hot Freshman year? It would not be unthinkable that we couldn’t have McCann, Chipper, Prado, Heyward, and Freeman with 20+ HR!

Prado at third, Infante at second..it works

October 21st, 2010
6:21 am

Chipper hitting third? Have you not been watching the past two years? He ended up in the 250 range this year, 264 last year, what’s next, 240? His bat speed is GONE! He is a HOFer, no doubt, since the HOF is based on offense and not defense, but the only thing that has deteriorated more than his bat speed is his range at third. Chipper, PLEASE, for the love of Noc-A-Homa, retire!

ONE

October 21st, 2010
6:30 am

1. Nate McClouth
2. Martin Prado
3. Chief
4.Free agent or TRade
5.McCann
6.JHEY
7.A-GOn the thick lips
8.Freeman

if and only if McClouth can get back to his 2008 season stats

blueridge

October 21st, 2010
7:11 am

I’d take less for Jurrjens if the other team would take Kawakame, too. That would free up several million.

Arkie

October 21st, 2010
7:20 am

Braves problems – defense, speed, need two legitimate power bats ( other wise they pitch around the one.) Can Chipper come back to the player he once was – NO. He can be a good hitter IF he stops swinging for the fences. Do we have a CONDITIONING COACH?? Our players need to be in shape. To get power, we will have to give up good players – a starting pitcher or two – and others. Any Boras players should be expendable, since they will cost to much come contract time. WREN, be careful – Braves have a history of was, have beens, might have beens, etc., over priced non productive (OLD) players. Rebuild with speed and youth. New manager will do fine if he can remember that he does not owe any of his team any thing – best players play (if you can not help the team, BYE) and he is the BOSS. Rework some contracts – free-up some money (suggestion, get the best hitting coach, we need him)

GwinnettDad

October 21st, 2010
7:37 am

There sure are no shortages of fools that visiting blogs such as this one. Not least of which lojak777’s assertion that Chipper “doesn’t need” 10 of his 13 million, and that Chipper should defer this compensation for the good of the Braves. Don’t you love fools that say what others should do with their money? Doesn’t cost them anything? Builds their ego. Makes them feel good. After all, the easiest thing to do in the world is to tell somebody else, more successful and talented that you, what they should do. My heavens, blogs give an entirely new way for pompous blowhards to waste our time reading idiocy and egotistic sports preaching. Worst of all, this fool can vote too.

vermont 39

October 21st, 2010
7:58 am

Seems the Philly Phans have disappeared on this board…wonder why:-)
Boycott Boras clients…build with youth…we have Prado, BMac, Heyward and hopefully Freeman as a core…Matty D. will rebound and keep Hinske!!!

Steve

October 21st, 2010
8:43 am

1. CF with speed (trade)
2. Prado 2B
3. Heyward RF
4. McCann C
5. Chipper 3B
6. LF Right handed power bat (trade)
7. Freeman 1B
8. Gonzo SS

Chipper is no longer a # 3 hole hitter. Prado is the perfect #2 guy. Need speed at the top and 1 more power bat in the outfield. I don’t see McLouth or Ankiel being in the mix. Infante back to being a spot starter. Need 1-2 veteran bull pen guys to help with the young arms.

Homer Simpson

October 21st, 2010
9:59 am

Mark Cuban?????????????????? Right. Just have gasoline as an owner to be thrown on any little fire. That is just the guy Atlanta needs. Mr. Dallas Texas. I am sure he would have the Braves at the center of his sweet little socialist heart.

Cecil34

October 21st, 2010
10:14 am

Folks, there is absolutely no guarantee that Chipper is going to be ready for the rigors of playing third base on a regular basis 7 months after ACL replacement.

My daughter had it (softball player) and it was a year before she was back to something resembling full speed. And she went to therapy 3 times a week for months….

I know she is not a professional and was not under major league care, but can you really rush the healing process?

Now, even though Chipper may get more intensive rehab than she did, I still would not bank on him at all.

His hitting for most of the season was abysmal, he had other nagging injuries that kept popping up at inopportune times, and he is what? 39 years old?

Now let’s be realistic folks – the most you are going to get out of him in a good year from now on might be 90-100 games.

That won’t get it done.

Love the guy, but there are more Buck Commander DVD’s that need to be made…..

Ted M

October 21st, 2010
10:40 am

The hamstring and knee are likely weight related injuries.

DOB – Has JJ mentioned anything about losing weight?

dalemurphy4HOF

October 21st, 2010
11:10 am

DOB – a Freddie Freeman question. It looks like there are not a lot of good RH Power Outfield bats that would warrant giving up a talent like Jair in a trade (Nelson Cruz being the only I see that COULD be available in a trade for JJ). Is there any possibility of them pulling a Klesko and putting Freeman in LF and resigning Derek Lee to a 2 year deal? He would be affordable and would give them a decent RH bat behind Heyward, Chipper and McCann.

. Don

October 21st, 2010
11:13 am

JJ’s hamstring and knee injuries may be insignificat, but he has definately not been even close to being the same pitcher since the shoulder injury – has not been dependable/effective compared to his first year.

Ted M

October 21st, 2010
11:20 am

dalemurphy4HOF – if the Braves were thinking of doing that he would already be playing LF in the Az Fall League. before the thumb of coarse.

Jack

October 21st, 2010
11:20 am

JJ was fat and out of shape. It is rediculous that that highly paid major league ballplayers are not required to be involved in fitness programs designed by the ball clubs similar to what is required of NFL football players. These players should have individual weight and fitness requirements that if not met, the team can fine them significant sums of money aganist their contracts.

dalemurphy4HOF

October 21st, 2010
11:26 am

Ted, I think they want him out there working on his hitting against quality pitching. Adding a position change would be a major distraction I’m sure they would want to avoid right now. He would still have Jan/Feb and then six weeks of spring training to work on the new position.

Ted M

October 21st, 2010
11:32 am

Even tho there is a dearth of outfield options I don’t think it will happen.

Our best bet may actually be Andruw Jones. If he came in at 210 lbs I’d take him.

gcs

October 21st, 2010
11:41 am

At age 24, JJ is way too young to have so many injuries.
If it means bringing in an outfielder who can actually hit, I say trade him.

.

. Bobby Cox at 93.75%

October 21st, 2010
11:54 am

Coming back from his knee injury, why does everyone assume that JJ is going to come back next season effective like he was in his first season with the Braves – when the problem is that he has not been dependable/effective like that since his SHOULDER injury

jwilli120

October 21st, 2010
12:53 pm

do not trade jj, a couple of years back(2-3) i kept hearing
about a kids in our farm system that was not ready (he is now
a allstar SS and the other is a ROOKIE CLOSER for the TEXAS
RANGERS and are on the verge of playing for a WS TITLE) my
point is if we keeep trading away our talent to other teams
we will never see another WS and other teams will take our
young talent and play for WS TITLES while we keep planning
and saying wait til next year BUILD FROM WITHIN… just
sayin

Supes

October 21st, 2010
1:21 pm

Yes, just b/c Braves lost top tier talent in the Mark T. deal in 2008…we SHOULD NEVER TRADE again…EVER. Anyone good…only SCRUBS to other teams and in return get their best players. That’s the strategy from NOW ON sir!!!

jwilli120

October 21st, 2010
1:39 pm

supes that’s not what i’m sayin build from within (keep top tier
talent on the big braves club) ADAM WAINWRIGHT the top brass
BOBBY COX said they never seen the guy pitch!…ouch ! this is
what i’m talking about( and it seems the other teams send us
thier scrubs for our best young talent that’s what i’m sayin
lets be smarter about who we trade off!

jwilli120

October 21st, 2010
1:49 pm

if we had built from within a few years back wainwright, feliz,
endurus just to name a few add some of the names traded away
to todays roster and we field a darn good team NOW!

jmart

October 21st, 2010
2:11 pm

Will FF be ready for Spring Training? Why is no one talking about Matt Young? He hit .300 and stole 39 bases and plays CF in Triple A this year. He hit .289 in AA the two years prior. He has speed, a good OBP (.389) and seems ready to make the jump. Is a samll kid with a small stike zone. He is 28 and most people like younger rookies but who cares really, if he can get the job done. That would solve a huge CF and lead off problem for the Braves.

jwilli120

October 21st, 2010
2:24 pm

that’s what i’m talking about jmart!

jim

October 21st, 2010
3:04 pm

I was wishing the Braves gave Matt Young a look in LF as a callup this Sept. We wern’t getting much from that position anyway, and Young was hot in AAA at the time and had some speed that was sorely lacking on this team. I doubt he is anything more than a 4th outfielder, but we were alternating 4 4th outfielders, at best in our LF and CF positions. He could have given us a lift similar to what Blanco provided earlier.

Cool Dude

October 21st, 2010
3:09 pm

Andruw Jones hit 19 homers in 107 games this past year. And he is really really cheap. Why not sign him to a one year deal if we can’t find anyone else for hire or trade?

jwilli120

October 21st, 2010
4:01 pm

does anyone remember how the streak got started we built from
within justice,gant,blauser,lemmer,glavine,javy,dye,ajones
c.jones thats what i mean by build from within we drafted
good talent and did not trade it away, with the way Liberty
Media treats us this si the way to go

kirkinga

October 21st, 2010
4:01 pm

It is amazing that we have some so-call “fans” who are treating JJ like he was a piece of trash because he had a down season. Where were you people the previous two seasons when he wasn’t hurt and was our best starter? Have people not learned a lesson about trading young talent? Must not be watching the Rangers play I guess.

JJ is part of a core group of players that you add to, not give away. Minor and Beachy haven’t pitched enough at this level to be automatically in the rotation.You trade them before you trade a guy who has shown he can be a top 10 starter.

It is also wishful thinking to expect that every top pitching prospect is going to make it and do well. Some have forgotten about Chuck James, Kyles Davies, Charlie Morton, etc…

Even with the down season, JJ has been better his first several seasons than Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz were in theirs.Why any fan would want to give that kind of talent away makes you wish people had to take a breathalizer test before commenting.

eddie

October 21st, 2010
5:20 pm

nice seeing you last nite! you’d be welcome any ole time, shoot me an e-mail if there’s a show that’s of interest, i’m not much of a blogger, and my cell is the original one from the dark ages. chuck brodsky is playing tonite, he’s in the baseball HOF with a record of baseball songs. introduced me to tim flannery a few years ago. tim’s a better 3rd base coach than songwriter, but his songs don’t sux! eo.

Bill

October 21st, 2010
5:42 pm

DOB, Whats happen at meeting in Fla? Let us know if any news. Thanks

colonelcartz

October 21st, 2010
6:02 pm

I know it’s a long-shot, but I’ve seen names like Hunter Pence being mentioned so I thought I’d throw it in. What about Carlos Quentin? The price would probably be astronomical since he’s not arb eligible until 2013, but I haven’t seen his name thrown around at all.

bravesfaninNashville

October 21st, 2010
6:03 pm

I’m glad to see JJ had the knee surgery now. This along with the need to rehab should help him get in better shape for next spring. Having Scott Boras as an agent can also have some positives for the Braves as he will be encouraging him to get in great shape to increase his market value. I look for a bounce back year for JJ in 2011. We need to build on established pitching and add position players around that pitching not trade it away. Hopefully we can go after Werth as it gives us a right handed outfielder that can play all three positions well and it weakens the Phillies.

garynpOH

October 21st, 2010
7:06 pm

DOB, when will we hear any discussion about 3rd base post Chipper. He is a class guy for sure but given the anemic offense I think that a replacement for him will need to have some pop and I am not sure who in the minors might be that guy to assume that position.

. Bobby Cox at 93.75%

October 21st, 2010
7:09 pm

I have been unable to follow developments recently. Has he announced who the coaches will be for next season?

. Bobby Cox at 93.75%

October 21st, 2010
7:10 pm

I have not been able to follow developments recently. Has he announced who the coaches will be?

Billionaire Ted

October 21st, 2010
7:49 pm

The Billionaire wants to know why the trade talk of JJ?! If he comes back to 2009 form, we have a dangerous rotation except in the fifth slot. What about Minor or Beachy as trade bait? Remember Medlen returns in August

Billionaire Ted

October 21st, 2010
7:51 pm

The Billionaire wants to start a blog petition of keeping Rick Ankiel? Any takers? Great defense, strong arm and once we get the hole out of his bat, 2009 form will overtake centerfield.

Puma

October 21st, 2010
10:18 pm

Billionaire, I don’t disagree with you on Ankiel but I think if we pick up his option, he is due like $6 mil, and he ain’t worth that.

Hit A Single

October 21st, 2010
11:25 pm

Ankiel hits like a pitcher.

Braint

October 22nd, 2010
12:12 am

I’ve been saying sign Andruw Jones for days now. He hit 19 HR in 320-something PA’s and he has trimmed down and could play a great LF. He still has an above average arm and he only cost $500,000 this year. And people are willing to gamble $6 Million for Ankiel? I say sign AJ at $700,000 and name him the starter in LF. 20 HR out of LF would seem like Bonds’ 73 HR to the Braves.

David O'Brien

October 22nd, 2010
1:16 am

DOB, when will we hear any discussion about 3rd base post Chipper. He is a class guy for sure but given the anemic offense I think that a replacement for him will need to have some pop and I am not sure who in the minors might be that guy to assume that position. — garynpOH

gary, there is no deadline, no timetable for Chipper, other than he’s planning to be ready to play in the spring, or very close. If he has a setback this winter or just doesn’t think he’s going to make it back, he could always announce it without warning, just pull the plug on the comeback. But the Braves are moving forward as though he’s going to be ready, until they hear anything otherwise. He’s supposedly on schedule in his comeback, last I checked.

I’ll try to reach him in the next week, to see if anything new. But I’m not expecting anything.

Rupert

October 22nd, 2010
2:43 am

Wow, some really dumb stuff on here tonight. From the guy claiming the Braves should build from within and never trade another top player again. Who exactly fills the bat void sir? I agree with the folks talking about JJ being overweight, very obvious when you compare his pics, which does not help his injuires. If you get good value for him now it might be time to sell high if he is not committed, do we not remember another super talented player who was not committed to fitness named Andruw Jones? Some folks need to realize you can’t just sit back hold onto every player becuase you made some bad moves in the past. Sell high when you can on guys you don’t see as major league quality. But geez, to say never trade those guys, always build from within at all costs, stupid stupid stupid. What about all those guys from ‘05 from within? There is one left.

Churchy

October 22nd, 2010
4:41 am

I didn’t see a post that said the Braves should build within and never trade a top player again.
But that is mostly correct and probably what we will be seeing for years to come. All the key players on the team for the most part have been built from within or they broke in full time in the big leagues with the Braves. This year, Wagner, Melky, and Ankiel were 1 year players to buy a year. For the most part, so is Alex Gonzo. They may very well have a few more “fill-in” players on a 1-2 year contracts. Stockpilling and building talent in the minor leagues is the way of the future.

fslusser

October 22nd, 2010
7:33 am

I am campaining for Jim presley as our new batting instructor. He did a great job with the Marlins and I know he can improve our hitters.He works hard at his trade. All great hitters are not always great instructors.

Bill

October 22nd, 2010
8:46 am

Fredi’s bench coach has interview for Pirate mgr. job. If he gets it who would Fredi pick as bench coach?
Hope he gets GREG WALKER as hitting Coach from White Sox.

Thanks DOB for all Braves, music and motorcycle news. Forgot the BBQ?

Liberty Media won't sell

October 22nd, 2010
9:53 am

The problem with Blank or Cuban buying the Braves is they are not for sale. This is the year Liberty Media could sell but I read somewhere they do not want to. Why would they sell them team when they can make money of Heyward and Chipper jerseys while having a middle of the pack payroll?

David O'Brien

October 22nd, 2010
10:24 am

Bill, we talked about a great BBQ place last weekend that was recommended to me by one of the bloggers. Mad Dog’s in Conyers. Outstanding.

Dan Morton

October 22nd, 2010
10:27 am

Can’t just look at the contracts that expire next year when determining who you can go after in free agency. Over the next 2 years we have well over $35MM/ year in expiring contracts ( actually think the number is closer to $40MM). Add to that the $8 or $9MM in additional gate and concession receipts and in 2012 we will have an additional $45 – $50MM a year to spend. Some of this will need to be spent on existing players and appropriate raises but there still will be a lot of cash with which to manuever – and we really don’t need to wait. Give Crawford a 7 year deal worth $112MM starting at $10MM next year and escalating at $2MM/yr ( last year is at $22MM ). That still leaves a lot of room to sign out of free agency or trade for a bopper for left field.

As for Jurjens — keep him — sign him long term if he has a solid year next year. He is young and very talented. Yes – we have a lot of young pitching but Lowe won’t be here more than another year or so and Huddy will be 35 ( I think ) next year — no Spring chicken either. Let’s see how the young guiys develop before we go and throw away the best of the batch.

The line up could be:

1). Crawford CF
2). Prado 2B
3). Heyward RF
4). McCann C
5). Werth LF ( placeholder)
6). Jones 3B
7). Freeman 1B
8). Gonzales SS

Additional roster:

Hinske, Diaz. Infante, Ross, McLouth and Hernandez ( placeholder )

Starting pitching

1). Hudson
2). Jurjens
3). Hanson
4). Lowe
5). Minor ( until Medlin returns )

Relievers
Beachy -long / spot starter
Moylan- middle
Dunn – middle
O’Flaherty – middle
Venters – set up
Kimbrell – closer

Play ball

Ted M

October 22nd, 2010
11:21 am

The Braves have expressed interest in Eduardo Nunez, a shortstop prospect in the Yankees system.

Anybody know anything about him other than he’s skinny and 23yrs old?

Ted M

October 22nd, 2010
11:25 am

NEW YORK — The Yankees have removed injured first baseman Mark Teixeira from their roster for the American League Championship Series, replacing him with infielder Eduardo Nunez.

Nunez hit .280 (14-for-50) with a home run and seven RBIs in 30 games with the Yankees this year. Without Teixeira available, Girardi put Lance Berkman in the lineup at first base for Wednesday’s ALCS Game 5 and moved Robinson Cano to the No. 3 spot in the batting order.

jimmya

October 22nd, 2010
1:26 pm

release wren and k k they worth about the same bobby come back as general manager for 6 months plezzz

Texas Frenchy

October 22nd, 2010
2:51 pm

Thanks for trading me, i ll be cashing a fat check after the World Series, you guys need a new outfield but your stuck with McSuck in CF cause of 6 million reasons, I could play left but think Im gonna stay here in Texas & play golf with Chipper!

South Georgia

October 22nd, 2010
3:57 pm

Please trade Jurjens. We have a load of pitching and practically no speed or power in the lineup. If we don’t score, we can’t win. We need some scrappy hitters like the Giants and Marlins have who are tough to get out.

dap01

October 22nd, 2010
4:12 pm

Frenchy can play any playoff games he wants, I still don’t want him. Remember, he was traded from NY because they had grown tired of his “non producing ways”. He is nothing more that a role player who expects star money.

Sam Fossela

October 22nd, 2010
4:29 pm

Why trade Jurrjens? I say trade Hanson because he is not dependable and he changed to Scott Boras for an agent meaning he is going to ask for some sky high salary.Jurrjens is just filling out. I think people forget he’s still just 24. Besides, y’all need to stop watching player’s behinds and start paying attention to if they can play. Why is it we have people here that are always up for trading the Latino guys the second they have a down period? Why is it those same people who want to trade Jurrjens want to resign Conrad?

My Name Is Earl

October 22nd, 2010
4:40 pm

Because its the right thing to do Sam.

Sam Fossela

October 22nd, 2010
5:01 pm

It’s the right thing to do if you are a Phillies fan, or Marlins, Nats or Met fan. It’s the right thing to do if you some Latino hating neck. Otherwise, there is not one solid baseball reason to trade a kkid who has been your best pitcher over the past 2 seasons and pitched hurt this year because he wanted to help this team rather than sit things out which might have been in his best interest, And this fairytale that the Braves are ‘loaded” with pitching is just that, a fairytale. Who would you rather pitch against a Josh Johnson, or Santana, or Strasburg(sp), Hamels/Haliday/Oswalt, Wainright or Cain/Lincecum? A healthy Jurrjens who has shown he is every bit as good as them or Minor/Beachy/ or some kid in the minors who hasn’t been proven? The right thing is to keep and build around young pitching that is proven, and payroll friendly. You think the Giants would trade Cain or Sanchez to get some mediocre bat?

Braves Fan Since "80

October 22nd, 2010
5:51 pm

do not trade jj, a couple of years back(2-3) i kept hearing
about a kids in our farm system that was not ready (he is now
a allstar SS and the other is a ROOKIE CLOSER for the TEXAS
RANGERS and are on the verge of playing for a WS TITLE) my
point is if we keeep trading away our talent to other teams
we will never see another WS and other teams will take our
young talent and play for WS TITLES while we keep planning
and saying wait til next year BUILD FROM WITHIN… just
sayin

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Andrus is not the glue…. we could use his speed I agree but other wise he is just avg and without Hamilton, young and Cruz or should I say with Chipper, Matt/Melky, McClouth he is watching…….. Our problem is outfield and bat….. Andrus has more at bats than anyone in MLB without a home run

Just the facts

Braves Fan Since "80

October 22nd, 2010
5:56 pm

Sam Fossela….. Ok but you think we should let Scott Boras take him tto greener pastures for free…… No neck ut if he has value make the move….. I hate the talk about his fitness……. I bet we would have people complain about Kung Fu Panda replacing conrad…… The Giants benched him for having a better year than Chipper….. just saying

driver8

October 22nd, 2010
7:26 pm

As of today … Outfield stinks…3rd base tied up Chippers salary. Chipper retires frees up a bunch of $, need to know early enough to at least use that money to go after much needed help in the OF. Chipper comes back then one of our young proven pitchers (JJ or Tommy) has to be dealt to help our weakness. Sucks that we just can’t go out and bid and make the moves but our ungrateful suits sitting in NYC will not allow that sort of satisfaction. Oh well. Welcome back Nate Mc and who ever we can go cheap on to help the OF …. yuck is what I say.

Sam Fossela

October 22nd, 2010
9:23 pm

If the Braves cannot afford to acquire the Werth’s and Crawford’s out there, how the heck you gonna have them trade a stud pitcher for a “big bat” which they still aren’t gonna be able to pay to keep. Trading Jurrjens would be worse than the JD Drew and Tex trades because we know

Billionaire Ted

October 22nd, 2010
9:30 pm

Puma-thanks for not blowing the Billionaire out of this blog. Even Rick knows his option will not be picked up, but the Braves could decline and pick him up cheaper. With a new batting coach and a cheaper contract, Rick could be the Troy Glaus of 2011

Sam Fossela

October 22nd, 2010
9:30 pm

If the Braves cannot afford to acquire the Werth’s and Crawford’s out there, how the heck you gonna have them trade a stud pitcher for a “big bat” which they still aren’t gonna be able to pay to keep. Trading Jurrjens would be worse than the JD Drew and Tex trades because we know Jurrjens is good. That still doesn’t answer the question of why trade Jurrjens who when healthy is near elite and not Hanson who has yet to show he can have an entire season at that level? They both have the same agent now so y’all don’t have that excuse any longer. I say keep them both and make some hard choices about the depth of prospects, the unknowns in the minor leagues. Until Chipper and Lowe’s contract come off the books. The Braves just got back to where starting pitching was a strength and now some want to mess with that. That’s not good baseball sense.

Bill

October 22nd, 2010
10:46 pm

DOB, I will check out Mad Dogs BBQ.

Ranger up 6-1 in 8th…They look good.

myra

October 22nd, 2010
11:38 pm

All u Francouer haters have to eat it now. Frenchy makes it to the World Series before any ‘baby brave’.
Bench player or not he’s IN and THEY wanted him. Scherholz-How do u like that Tex deal now?

"Mungo"

October 23rd, 2010
7:56 am

Hey- Get your heads out of your butts and take a look at what the Braves are setting on…4 of baseball’s profile arms of the next generation.
1.Hanson
2. Jurrjens
3.Venters
4. Kimbrel
This could be our anchor’s for several seasons.

"Mungo"

October 23rd, 2010
8:03 am

On the note blogged earlier for the return of R.Ankiel…. That is all we need …Maybe we can get a dozen more centerfielders and cover all 8 positions.
Sorry “Blunder $$$ Ted “!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

frankmc

October 23rd, 2010
10:53 am

Bravos need an outfield bat and can’t afford Crawford or Werth. How about Colby Rasmus? He apparently doesn’t get along with Larussa, which is not necessarily a bad thing. He may be on the trading block. Have to trade starting pitching though. I guess Jurrjens is the best bet but I hate to trade him when his value is lower than it should be.

My Name Is Earl

October 23rd, 2010
3:19 pm

Hey, if Fredi’s bench coach takes the job with the Pirates, maybe Bobby Cox could be Fredi’s bench coach. I think he would be great at it.

DawgDad

October 23rd, 2010
4:53 pm

Ideally JJ returns to form and Chipper’s salary falls off the books allowing us to resign JJ and others. BUT JJ being a Boras client I move him out at the first available opportunity to capture fair value in return. I mean FAIR value, not Vasquez value. If I were the President of the Braves I’d keep Wren well under thumb on the next trade of a top starter.

Coach B

October 23rd, 2010
5:06 pm

This talk about trading JJ is just rediculous. He has one down year due to bad luck injury bug and the panic dogs cry for a trade. Frankly, Lowe is the one we should be trading. We might not get anything in return but his performance this past couple of months ought to enable us to get out from under his contract. Zero in return would be heaven sent, if we could free up 10 to 12 million to put toward that legitimate outfield bat, then we would be set. We have the three key arms in Hudson, JJ, and Hansen. With the quality arms we have in our pen, we are in good shape. Sure we might be below average this coming year at the back end of the line up but all you need is 3 top pitchers in the playoffs. Three top pitchers can get us to the playoffs if we can score the runs to battle it out somedays. Come 2012 we will be set again with the arms we have coming up. You sell high and buy low. Lowe is high and JJ is low. JJ is a premier top 10 starter in the league when healthy. He is very cheap and will be for a couple of more years. If we can dump KK and save another 2 or 3 million then we should be set.

Panic dogs, go hide in your ugly face, or is that you put I see?

Billionaire

October 23rd, 2010
6:40 pm

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Mungo

October 23rd, 2010
6:42 pm

Dave-we need a new subject

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October 23rd, 2010
6:56 pm

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