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Kimbrel4Closer

October 19th, 2010
7:49 pm

Please please please resign Hinske!!

Kimbrel4Closer

October 19th, 2010
7:51 pm

I say we trade JJ to the Dodgers for Kemp straight up.

Then sign Javy Vasquez. Thoughts?

boog

October 19th, 2010
7:53 pm

thank God… he was the worst. Even his hits were bloopers and choppers. He probably did not hit five balls hard this entire year. 80% percent of the time he hit little dribblers to the pitcher or second basemen. I can’t believe Bobby played him as much as he did.

Delbert D.

October 19th, 2010
8:03 pm

There must be some outfielder in somebody’s AAA or AA team that could be traded for. He could start immediately and be an upgrade.

MIKE

October 19th, 2010
8:03 pm

I love Hinske , and remember Glaus carried the Braves the first part of the year until he hurt his knee. After the Lee trade it seemed like the chemistry of the Braves change. Errors went up they did’nt play as a unit. I would not trade any of the pitchers ,you never can have enough pitching . get a one big name centerfielder and go. I would love for Braves to go after David Wright for third base just in case Chipper done ,but I dont know if its possible .

Time

October 19th, 2010
8:09 pm

WOOOOOHHOOOOOOOOO…No more sideways throwing Melky.

Teddy Jack Eddy

October 19th, 2010
8:11 pm

I don’t read every post but I haven’t seen the obvious mentioned. Chipper Jones retiring is critical to The Braves picking up the needed improvements for the outfield

. Who believes management when they claim they hope Jones comes back ? If they really think it’s in the team’s interest for CJ to tie up 14 million, they’re dumb as post.

Thomas

October 19th, 2010
8:12 pm

To everyone dogging Melky, do you forget his outfield assist to save the braves at least twice,as well as a few clutch hits. He did well playing for the World Champion Yankees, and could resurface in a Yankee uniform and do well. In the Yankees lineup much was not expected of him with all the talent in that lineup, but with this anemic lineup Wren put together, the pressure was so much for guys like Melky, McLouth and Ankiel. These guys should not be counted on to the extent they were, they were more relaxed in their previous teams and so would perform well.
Someone mentioned getting Frenchy to play left, what a joke, I guess he was his Parkview buddy. Frenchy sure would be better defensively at RF.
It was noticed early that Heyward likes to extend his arm, and could not hit the pitch up and in. Sometimes these guys enter the bigs as hot shots like Frenchy and the Batting Coach just cannot get them to adjust.
It is good that Pendleton is no longer the Hitting Coach, so we will see if another coach will get them to perform better.

bigdaddydave

October 19th, 2010
8:13 pm

so what do you think this mean for our outfield? id love to see us resign ankiel for cheap as our fourth outfielder, keep mclouth in center (he still has a lot of potential guys dont forget it) and diaz as an excellent bench option, but who do you think the next guy is gonna be to fill the left field role? could it be adam dunn or carl crawford?

Rilo

October 19th, 2010
8:15 pm

uhhhhh….man I hate being a poor team. I wish we had about 15 million more to spend. I know we’re right in the middle as it pertains to total revenue but dang….We’re going to be stuck with Mcclouth because nobody will want him for his 6 Million. This only leaves Left field….Theres not much we can do folks….Kawakami and Mcclouth are killing us.

Rilo

October 19th, 2010
8:18 pm

oh…p.s….We can’t afford Carl Crawford or Adam Dunn or Jason Werth.

trav

October 19th, 2010
8:20 pm

Some of you people have no clue? Why would we get Jim Thome? How does this fix the outfield? Someone wants frenchy… LOL he stinks and he would be even worse back in atlanta tring to overacheive in his home town. What needs to happen is this and many people anlyzing are payroll are not figuring all the money coming off the books! Wagner ( 7.omillion), Glaus ( 4.0 Million), Melky 3.0 million, Diaz 2.5 million, saito 3million, henskie 1 million, Add it up we have 20 million clear off the books! Sign werth to a 4yr 60 million dollar deal and put him in right field and move heyward to left, We are going to need to keep mcclouth as no one will take his 5million salary to we can see if he bounces back and can build a little value as the braves can buy him out after 2011! Omar infante could play left and werth in center with heyward in right. The infield is set Chipper, Gonzo, Prado, Freeman, The outfield would be set with werth, infante and heyward. The line up could be infante, prado, mccain, wearth, heyward, jones, gonzalez, freeman, pitcher. the remaining money can be used to bring back vazquez and resign henskie. the rotation would be hudson, lowe, hanson, jurrjens, vazquez. the pen would be kimbrel closer, venters su, moylan the 7th, Oflaratey and dunn as lefty match ups, martinaz can be long relief man and maybe proctor gets a spot. The bench would heniske, mcclouth, ross, conrad, herzandez. This team will win 95 games and the divison.

Thomas

October 19th, 2010
8:22 pm

Teddy Jack Eddy – You are correct, I am with you on that, but not too many on this blog wants to say that. Sentiments are killing this team, Chipper is Mr. Braves, he has served the franchise well, but his $14 Million will be the reason the Braves will not be able to land a top FA.
At the time it was done I thought it was crazy to tie up Chip for that number for 3 yrs.

Sfblump

October 19th, 2010
8:27 pm

When we lived in Cincinnati, Honus Wagner was hired as manager, but he did a terrible job. His demeaner was one that put down the underachievers, and constantly dogged each players faults. There was no
instruction or teaching in his makeup. He was a great hitter, but failed badly as a manager.

Bama Brave

October 19th, 2010
8:31 pm

Omar is too slow to play in the outfield.

seminoles

October 19th, 2010
8:40 pm

The umpiring in the postseason has been horrible. Two blown calls on home runs again.

Nick Esasky

October 19th, 2010
8:51 pm

McLouth’s $7 million salary should be covered by insurance in the event that he is unable to play due to the onset or occurance of a rare, inexplicable illness.

CaptainMudderland

October 19th, 2010
8:57 pm

Seemed to struggle to run down flies…possessed a weird left handed swing….read: swung like a girl in 5th grade…outside of this, a pretty good Melkdud!

GaryinBham

October 19th, 2010
8:59 pm

Sfblump, I followed the Reds when I was a kid living in Ohio, used to go to old Crosley Field. I’m not sure Honus Wagoner was ever manager–I think Rogers Hornsby maybe is who you have in mind.

Braves Fan Since "80

October 19th, 2010
9:03 pm

I love Hinske , and remember Glaus carried the Braves the first part of the year until he hurt his knee. After the Lee trade it seemed like the chemistry of the Braves change. Errors went up they did’nt play as a unit. I would not trade any of the pitchers ,you never can have enough pitching . get a one big name centerfielder and go. I would love for Braves to go after David Wright for third base just in case Chipper done ,but I dont know if its possible .

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Wow you must have missed all those Chipper errors….lost two games in a row….Do not Blame D Lee for Conrad…..Prado while playing hurt settled the D down…..Conrad and Gonzo stunk the place up

Braves Fan Since "80

October 19th, 2010
9:04 pm

Omar is too slow to play in the outfield…. but he is faster than Diaz

Fins and Chins

October 19th, 2010
9:05 pm

And yet the Braves never could figure out how to release the underperforming Booby Cox.

Braves Fan Since "80

October 19th, 2010
9:05 pm

We’re going to be stuck with Mcclouth because nobody will want him for his 6 Million. This only leaves Left field….Theres not much we can do folks… Chipper, .Kawakami and Mcclouth are killing us.

Hit A Single

October 19th, 2010
9:05 pm

How in the heck does that ump miss the foul ball call? On the other call you have fan interference or you don’t. That was fan interference. I thought anytime a fan reached over and made contact with player or ball it was interference.

Hit A Single

October 19th, 2010
9:07 pm

I am glad the underachieveing Bobby Cox was our manager. If he underachieved, alot of guys never achieved.

Fins and Chins

October 19th, 2010
9:11 pm

Well it’s a moot point, as Booger Boy can’t underperform any more.

san diego brave

October 19th, 2010
9:13 pm

DOB,First my comments about D Lee last night were answering the previous posters about about the Braves resigning him. I was just stating that it is impossible. 2ND: Don’t the Braves control the contract rights for the CF who defected from the Cuban national team? I believe his name is Gomez? 30 year old right handed bat. He hits for decent average but not a lot of power.I was under the impression that they had visa difficulties and the Braves were keeping him parked in the D.R. until the smoke cleared. If they still have him, why is he not playing in the AFL now?

The Abs Man

October 19th, 2010
9:17 pm

My favorite Melk-Dud/Bobby Cox fiasco:

After Matty Diaz guns down Pat the Bat at plate with awesome laser-beam throw to McCann to keep SF lead at 3-2–and Diaz comes charging off field so ready and pumped up he could ran back a punt for TD single-handed–Cox the genuis pinch-hits fat-slob Melk-Dud for the revved-up Diaz.

Melk-Dud feebly makes out there, plus final out of season, and Braves humble off into the night…..a profressional hitter like Diaz misses out on two ABs for digusting diseased Melk-Dud.

Good job Fredi G finally throwing out this worthless piece of trash.

And P.S. Fredi:
—tell the trash truck to haul off that chubby lil’ pouting shortstop, Alex Gonzalez !!

[...] releasing Melky Cabrera earlier today, the Braves have also released reliever Takashi Saito writes David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal Consitution. Saito pitched well for the Braves bullpen in 2010 with a 2.83 ERA, 1.074 WHIP and 11.4 [...]

The Abs Man

October 19th, 2010
9:31 pm

DawgDad:

Melky will WEIGH 300 way before he ever hits .300.

The Abs Man

October 19th, 2010
9:33 pm

DOB: Any chance Ankiel will return?—obviously not for $6 million option–but at a much lesser salary..

JIm (not Mora)

October 19th, 2010
9:35 pm

OK, I’m 64 years old and I know I don’t get things sometimes. I’m a little slow, I admit. But…we paid Melky Cabrera, 3.1 million for what he did this year? Good grief. Is Jupiter not aligned with Mars? It is unbelievable, as great as the season was, that we lasted as long as we did.? A man who played as poorly as he did, collected 3.1 million and took it to the bank. Without hanging his head in shame. I guess only because he had direct deposit.

Hit A Single

October 19th, 2010
9:35 pm

If Saito can stay healthy he can help somebody. Good live arm when healthy. One thing about Cabrera, he came to play everyday and I don’t know why everybody was surprised by his average, he is and has always been a very average hitter.

Prado at third, Infante at second..it works

October 19th, 2010
9:44 pm

Chipper might be a good coach, he certainly knows how to hit even though he has no bat speed anymore and needs to retire. He has helped Braves players work through strugggles before, and knows the players on the team. If we had his 14 million bucks next year, we could go a long way toward solving BOTH outfield problems.

Braves Fan Since "80

October 19th, 2010
10:00 pm

All the people talking about who we traded to Texas….. If we traded Chipper for young, McClouth for josh and Matt Diaz for Nelson Cruz…….. We would be a mucch better team and Andrus would be well just another former minor leaguer…..

The TEX trade allowed them to keep young, Hamilton Kinsler….. We should have dumped the Chip!

murphy

October 19th, 2010
10:02 pm

I am tired of reading about how bad Pendleton was as a batting coach. Some of the blame should fall on the hitters themselves. They are the ones at the plate and should be able to figure out that if a ball is in the dirt or eye high they should not swing. Some of the Atlanta fans are all about bashing unless the team is doing real well. I have been a Braves fan since the 60s, and have seen us go through some bad years but never have I heard so much bashing. Maybe they should support the team and just shut up.

Tim L.

October 19th, 2010
10:10 pm

Xavier Nady would fit for a number of reasons (1) RH hitter (2) plays 1B – insurance and spell Freddie (3) plays corner OF positions (4) coming from an off-year in 2010 with Cubs so price will be down (5) missed most of 2009, but hit 25 HR’s in 2008.

kirkinga

October 19th, 2010
10:11 pm

If we want the Braves to be a team with more power and speed, then saying good-bye to Diaz and Conrad would be among their next moves. While these two are beloved good guys, the Braves need more athletes on the bench that can do multiple things for the team like steal a base or lay down a bunt in a playoff game.

Keeping Conrad would be an affirmation that this team really is run by a good-ol’ boy system where the mistakes of some are excused away no matter how many are made, while the mistakes of others are magnified as emblematic of a style of play unacceptable to the organization.

Also, trading Jair for anything less than a proven All-Star is also a poor idea. He was hurt this season but still gave us what he could. The past two seasons he was a top 10-12 starter in the NL. I have yet to see Minor or Beachy prove they can succeed at that level in the bigs.

When we get to the point where keeping Brooks and trading JJ are neat-o ideas, then we are on the wrong path.

BravesFan

October 19th, 2010
10:24 pm

One of the WORST outfielders I have seen. I was sitting in the outfield seats on several occassions and he couldn’t even bend over to stop a ball. Klesko would look like a gold glover next to him.

Tim L.

October 19th, 2010
10:32 pm

Wonder if Seattle might have any interest in Kawakami if we would pay maybe half his salary? Franklin Gutierrez is a very good CF for Seattle who also had an off year in 2010 – .245, 12 HR and 25 SB’s. He hit .283 with 18 HR’s in 2009.
How about KK and Schafer for Franklin Gutierrez. Seattle lost 101 games – they need some changes.

chris

October 19th, 2010
10:59 pm

Steve, I’m with you – Hinske of all the potential free agents would disturb me the most if he left. The others can go play sub-par baseball for someone else. The miracle of 2010 is that we made it to the playoffs with such a weak hitting outfield. Braves got the better of the deal with Cabby but time to turn new page with a new manager. I just think the problem as it has always laid is at the very top of the chain. Liberty Media has got to get off their “A$#A$#” and spend some moeny if we’re serious about playing beyond October 1 every year. There is some quality out there to get this year but you get what you pay for- if we’re not going to spend some $ then expect a same makeup in the outfield in 2011 as we had this year- just with different names on the jerseys

Scott from Fairburn

October 19th, 2010
11:02 pm

Since we have to be creative with our payroll, here’s an idea … would SF unload Mark Derosa? High risk given the wrist injury, probably a salary dump for SF … a guy that has connections on the team … RH stick and left fielder

Scott from Fairburn

October 19th, 2010
11:03 pm

Derosa – $6 mil for 2011, one year left on current deal

Fredi Gonzalez

October 19th, 2010
11:08 pm

Nobody can replace Bobby Cox. If he says Melky was a kid then he was a good kid

dattradewasbad

October 19th, 2010
11:11 pm

just think were we would be if we never traded for teixera we would be the bomb with andrus infante and prado

ijudgenot

October 19th, 2010
11:18 pm

The JJ for Kemp trade mentioned earlier would be a great move although I would hate to see JJ go to another national league team like Wainwright to St Louis. Kemp is signed through next year at only about $6Mill. Kemp and Heyward in outfield would be a power duo. With speed and good arms at the corner outfielders. You could afford to keep McLouth in center for one more year batting 8th.

ijudgenot

October 19th, 2010
11:22 pm

Is it just me, or are the announcers really starting to sound distressed at the prospects of a Texas- San Francisco World Series.

LuisG

October 19th, 2010
11:25 pm

Braves release Melky Cabrera… wait, Santa, you you game me my Christmas give two months earlier!!!!!

bucky oneil

October 19th, 2010
11:25 pm

Cabrera’s hit in ninth gives Braves another walk-off win

“Melky Cabrera stepped into the starring role Monday, delivering a bases-loaded, two-run single in the ninth inning to lift the Braves to a stirring 4-3 win against the Los Angeles Dodgers at Turner Field.”

I will not miss the Melkster next year but he had a role in this season that, without, would have meant a little shorter season. There were a lot of things the Braves could have done this year had they not been strangled with salary obligations for McClouth and Kawakami. Injuries all season long. They truly battled and I for one enjoyed this season very much and look forward to next year. Good job 2010 Braves!

Ben

October 19th, 2010
11:28 pm

Does anyone realize that if chipper retired, we could move prado to third, infante to second, Diaz/Hinske in left, and get carl crawford to play center. Chipper is not worth what he is getting paid. he needs to take a pay cut or go away. He has been a great brave but he is killing us via payroll

canadianbravesfan

October 19th, 2010
11:33 pm

who in the hell wants Diaz as your everyday LF? Get a grip

canadianbravesfan

October 19th, 2010
11:34 pm

Mark Derosa? how did that work for SF this year

LuisG

October 19th, 2010
11:36 pm

* you gave me

StingerSplash

October 19th, 2010
11:36 pm

One thing the Red Sox don’t lack for is pitching.
They have Lester and Buchholz, two young pitchers with great futures,each with a no-no already in their careers. They have a ton of money tied up in Beckett and Lackey, both monumentally disappointing in 2010 but probably way too hard to move with their hefty salaries. And then there’s Dice-K, an enigma wrapped inside a riddle inside a mystery. He too with a fat contract.
The Sox need bullpen help. They have Bard, who could take over the closer role, and they have Papelbon, who has one more year left on his deal, I believe. Papelbon could get dealt, but the setup guys in front of Bard/Paps were a-tro-shus this year.
Besides, the Sox need to consider if they can afford to re-sign the trio of Adrian Beltre (huge season), Victor Martinez (switch-hitting catcher with power and average) and Big Papi (huge final five months of the year … again).
Wouldn’t be surprised to see the Sox dangle Ellsbury for a good offer. And he could fill the center field void for the Braves.

Buh Bye Melkdud

October 19th, 2010
11:44 pm

On a side note, Yankees are looking terrible in the ALCS. Cano is pretty much having to carry the whole team on his shoulders.

Scott from Fairburn

October 20th, 2010
12:16 am

canadianbravesfan … How did it work out for SF this year? Not well. That’s what high risk means

ReddJonn68

October 20th, 2010
12:20 am

Who cares about those non-performers. Lets go out & get some speed to pep this club up, New York kinda looks like us, sitting on pins & needles waiting on the long ball. Add one solid power guy next season & get some juice on the basepaths !!!!

yogi2

October 20th, 2010
1:14 am

I like Cody Ross alot. I wonder why rhe braves did not pick him up off waivers

yogi2

October 20th, 2010
1:16 am

Mark Derosa would be a great option in Left field or third base if Chipper gets hurt

LW

October 20th, 2010
2:16 am

Maybe he just hated playing in Atlanta. When he was playing center field for the Yankees, he gunned down a lot of speedy runners and was responsible for a fair number of walk off hits. And for him, and the others, we got a pitcher, supposedly your ace, with a dead arm who was dropped from the starting rotation. We would have welcomed Melky back at the very least as a fourth outfielder. How eager are you to get Vazquez back? One of the worst deals the Yankees have ever made–and there have been many of those.

braves808

October 20th, 2010
2:42 am

i think it’s only obvious this is the best decision for the atlanta braves and melky. melky didn’t want to be here. he LOVED it in NY. him and cano were bff’s. i think he purposely played like a lazy fat azz knowing he was garuntteed 3 mil.

MattyRoss

October 20th, 2010
2:51 am

For the record, that first comment was not sarcastic. Melky was a bust, but Vazquez was a bust with a capital S. In hindsight, anyone who was saying (and there were people saying it) that the Braves should have given the Hudson money to Javy and that the Braves got fleeced on that trade (which also netted them a great prospect and will bolster their chances at a decent trade this offseason) was dead wrong. Wren’s still got a pretty good batting average at this point, and I’m baffled by people calling for his head.

MattyRoss

October 20th, 2010
2:53 am

People like Larry A…pretty good example of what I’m talking about.

Nobleman

October 20th, 2010
2:57 am

My first Christmas wish was granted with the dumping of Melky C, with Freeman”s injury someone has to back him up at first base. With new hitting coach, what about bringing Clarence Jones back, he was pretty good in the 90’s.

jc_dawgs

October 20th, 2010
3:33 am

Lets set the record straight on the Braves chant.

It was first done by a small group of Braves fans back in 1969 during the post season series against the NY Mets. A nearby group of fans from FSU then took the chant back with them to Tallahassee where it slowly grew in popularity over time.

Then…as was mentioned earlier…Deion Sanders brought the chant back with him from FSU during the 1991 series.

Believe it or not….thats the way it went.

O'Brien's Head

October 20th, 2010
4:09 am

Gonzalez? Whats so great about him besides his salary? His fielding is erratic as is his hitting.
while I don’t see anything out there on the FA market, I can’t say that I am looking forward
to Gozo manning SS everyday. Would just as soon have Renteria out there a few games every week with Omar playing there also.
Also think we need to make a pitch for Gomes. He is serviceable. Not sure about his D.
And for those that suggest the JJ for Kemp deal, hell no but I will think about it if they
throw in Broxton.

Missed Our Chance

October 20th, 2010
5:59 am

Can you tell me why we didn’t pick up Cody Ross when the Marlins put him out there. It is the reason that the Giants are still playing and we are not.

London Calling

October 20th, 2010
6:43 am

Can you tell me why we didn’t pick up Cody Ross when the Marlins put him out there. It is the reason that the Giants are still playing and we are not.

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!!!

It’s been explained countless times! SF had a worse record than the Braves at the time, so were able to claim him off waivers first!

Next, for the real dumbos …

MELKY WASN’T THE CENTERPIECE OF THE VAZQUEZ TRADE!

old man

October 20th, 2010
6:48 am

Thoughts on our outfield:

1. Heyward’s best game this year was when he got 4 hits, three slapped on a rope to left. Anybody remember what game that was? As the season wore on, he tried to yank everything to right. But he’s obviously our RF.

2. I wish Infante had a better OBP, but he is far and away better than Diaz, McClouth, Ankiel, as an everyday player. He’s already under contract. Can he be coached up to play CF? Does he have the arm for that? Anyway, he’s your LF.

3. Center field: Go find a stud who can field and hit and drive in runs. If we had that guy right now, you would say, “D*mn, that’s a great outfield.”

Bubba Joe

October 20th, 2010
7:14 am

I see there’s a lot of Frenchys relatives on here. All the pitchers have his number. He can’t hit.

old man

October 20th, 2010
7:15 am

One more thing:

I like Ankiel for some things. He plays hard, He runs. He fields. Great clubhouse guy. But who taught him to hit? Especially with his speed, why is he trying to hit everything 500 feet? Honestly, he’s going to herniate himself with that swing. I’m no Chipper fan, but he has a great, smooth stroke that gives him a chance to make contact and hit line drives. I wonder what would happen with Ankiel if he spent all winter in an instructional league, with someone who could smooth out that swing. Bat speed is great, but he looks like he is swatting at a horse fly.

Steve-O

October 20th, 2010
7:16 am

And now for something a bit more realistic…..the actual Braves 2011 opening day roster:

2B: Martin Prado
SS: Alex Gonzalez
CF: Jason Werth
C: Brian McCann
3B: Chipper Jones
RF: Jason Heyward
1B: Freddie Freeman (probably will move up the order as the season progresses)
LF: Matt Diaz

That’s about all, gentlemen. There aren’t going to be any “dream” acquisitions beyond Werth or a similar power-hitting OF. Chipper’s not going to retire, and they’re not going to trade away Diaz. McClouth or Ankiel (one or the other) will be dealt (most likely McClouth), but not both.

The Braves will continue to be a solid team with playoff potential, as long as they don’t try and force a second basement into service with the manual dexterity of a crack addict in sub-zero weather (sorry, Brooksie, just calling it like I see it.)

One final thought: POSEY WAS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Double Zero Eight

October 20th, 2010
7:17 am

Look for the Braves to go after “over the hill – has beens” and hope for a miracle. Liberty Media is too
stingy, and is complacent with a mediocre team.

KoPP

October 20th, 2010
7:30 am

Diaz really needs to be playing every day before you can dismiss him – he can be very productive if given a chance he hasn’t been able to get under Bobby. Hubby getting released was a bit of a surprize, but I guess there’s a back story to that one. I’ve always thought that the ex-Brave that would make the best coach would be Maddux – the gut is a genius at breaking down hitters and discovering their foibles.

The big problem that needs to be worked on is plate discipline. We could have won several more games if players didn’t go up there and swing on first piches. The Braves are nortorious for it, and teams keyed on it to our detriment. A good batting coach would work wonders…

old man

October 20th, 2010
7:30 am

I wish some people more knowledgeable than me would weigh in with an opinion on whether Infante has the arm/speed to play LF.

Steve-O

October 20th, 2010
7:58 am

Oops…….meant to say “Infante” at SS, batting second…….not sure where “Gonzalez” came from….

Horse With A Name

October 20th, 2010
7:59 am

Good point about Cody Ross. Braves thought about getting him but didn’t. The Giants did and he paid off by killing the Braves.
If the Braves don’t sign a 30 to 40 homer LF and .300 hitting CF they won’t be any better next year. Why wasn’t Ankiel,Diaz,McLouth released or traded as well ? Melky was very bad but better than those 3 stooges…

Lou

October 20th, 2010
8:01 am

These decisions were no brainers. Tougher ones are coming like what to do with Brooks Conrad, but the big one is Chipper Jones. What if at his age he can’t come back or his career is over. Do we go after a power hitting third baseman if any are available. the price will be mighty high but necessary.

Brother John

October 20th, 2010
8:16 am

Old Man. To answer your question, no, on both counts. Great utility infielder. That’s all.

roosterjimmie

October 20th, 2010
8:22 am

horse with a name, both the braves and giants could have claimed him on waivers,but due to the giants having the worse record at that time he would have beenawarded to the giants to try and sign

E-6

October 20th, 2010
8:40 am

The Yanks trade still a good one despite Melky – especially when the kid involved in the deal advances through the system. You have to accept bad numbers as part of the game but the other outfielders who had bad years at least looked like they were trying and hustling. Melky never did.

milesarcher33

October 20th, 2010
8:43 am

I read DOB’s comments that the Braves don’t have the budget (i.e don’t want to spend the money) to chase Crawford or Werth. Unfortunately, it takes money to win in the Big Leagues. If the Braves don’t want to spend the money necessary to win than why not do the following: Bring back Frenchy and Andruw. Put Glaus at third and resign Lee at first. Put Hernandez at Short, let Conrad play second and bring back Ozzie Virgil, Jr, to catch. (Chipper retires, trade McCann for a relief pitcher, trade Prado and Infante for a fourth starter) These players will play cheap and will save the Braves alot of money. With this line up, I can see the Braves going 39 – 123!!

TNJacket

October 20th, 2010
8:47 am

“Cabrera, 26, hit .255 with a career-low four homers, 47 RBIs and a .317 on-base percentage in 147 games (458 at-bats) … He played some at all three outfield positions, though not particularly well at any…
If the Braves had kept him, the arbitration-eligible Cabrera could have expected a raise from the $3.1 million he made in 2010.”

Glad Melky’s gone, but it is a sad state in general when a player makes $3+Million, has a terrible season and then expects to get a big raise in arbitration!
But then there are the remaining 2 years of Nought McLouth’s $6.5M/$10.5M contract!!

Steve

October 20th, 2010
8:51 am

First off .. why is eveyrone jumping on Matty Ross? I don’t think he was being sarcastic. I think he really meant the Braves won out on that trade. Now, StottsERA asked the question if he was being sarcastic or not, which makes me thinks Stotts is the one who can’t see the value in the Vazquez trade.

As for all the ideas.
– Frenchy is horrible, but still a serious upgrade in LF over this year and he would come fairly cheap (the Rangers sure wanted him, and their offense is FAR superior to the Braves)
– Infante cannot play CF, but I have no problem playing him in LF. My only thought is that I want Infante playing one position for 130+ games. The problem here is that it will likely be easier to find a LF than it will a decent utility infielder, and with Prado and chipper unable to play 130 and 90 games respectively, we need a Infante in the IF. He should easily get 100+ starts from injuries to those two as well as spelling AGon a few times a month.

- Ankiel – I actually want him back. He is by far a better CF than McLouth.

- McLouth – Can’t get rid of him without paying most of his salary. Might as well keep him and try to get him to turn it around. He hit well over .300 the in September in October, and with some pop. Maybe he was finally turning it around. If we keep Ankiel we can move McLouth to LF where he won’t have to worry about Heyward ignoring the CF calling him off. Heyward would probably think twice about trying to pull a Dunta Robinson on Ankiel.

– Diaz – should only stay as a 4th OF at best.

Let’s get a few things straight. Liberty media will not allow a spending increase of any significant amount, and the may cut payroll. Unless we can do some serious salary dumping, we are not going to get anyone in FA that is any significant amount better than what McLouth, Ankiel, or even Diaz can do if they turn it around.

Some people on this board kill me with the lets go get this guy and that guy and this guy. Some of these ideas would cost 40-50 million in total. You people do understand the salary limitations the Braves have I hope. Elsbury is a possibility and so is Rasmus, but the same reason they are possibilities is the same reason we will have to give up quite a bit to get them. They are young, talented, and cheap. Other teams aren’t stupid folks.

Larry

October 20th, 2010
9:09 am

Melky is an ideal 6th outfielder, as long as you only carry 5 on the roster !!!

Dan Schlossberg

October 20th, 2010
9:09 am

It was a bad deal at the time — giving up a 15-game winner for a very poor player and a couple of pitching prospects. Mike Dunn yielded a Jimmy Rollins grand-slam on the first pitch of a poor late-September performance vs the Phillies, and the the other ex-Yankee farmhand had a okay but injury-riddled season. Had the Braves waited a couple of weeks, maybe they could have reversed the deal and reacquired a guy (Vazquez) who is obviously an NL pitcher.

Peter

October 20th, 2010
9:15 am

What did Joe Morgan say on Sunday night baseball……”With Melky they thought they were getting a guy who would hit 20-25 home runs ?”

HA HA HA……. that was really funny Joe….. Well Melky was first I guess at the Buffet, and LAST probably….. one blogger did state….

Round is a shape !

Randal Patrick McMurphy

October 20th, 2010
9:17 am

A big “Yawn”… whittling away at the dead wood on that pathetic section of the bench where the outfielders huddle together…

Richard Dawson

October 20th, 2010
9:19 am

Diaz was a back-up in KC. That tells you everything you need to know.

DoninTococca/78

October 20th, 2010
9:23 am

Wow, lot’s of comments from a few baseball people and lot’s from fans, but, nowhere did I see anything much about our boy’s down on the farm. Any slugger outfielders ready to come up? As I look at many other clubs I see lot’s of young hitters but MLB also has a great crop of young pitchers…. 95-105 mph! Wow! A hitter today would be smart to look for that fastball and learn how to stay off those dirt balls.

Doug

October 20th, 2010
9:33 am

I think I like Prado at 3rd and Infante at 2nd. Both are shy on power, but we can tolerate that, especially at 2nd, if we can improve the outfield. Chipper needs to graciously retire before he becomes another Favre. I can’t see hoping for him to return and be a real force. It’s time to move on & free up some dineros for use in the outfield. It amazes me that our farm system has failed so miserably at producing outfield prospects. No matter what, I’ll aways remember that bomb that Ankiel hit into the bay in SF – that was spectacular! I think he could be a great 4th outfielder, but I know the McClouth situation has us by the ‘nads.

yogi2

October 20th, 2010
9:35 am

Frank Wren and the Braves still have Jordan Shafer on the 40 man roster.
What a joke! Plenty of roster space on the braves roster

. Don

October 20th, 2010
9:38 am

Everyone seems to be assuming that the Braves Starting Pitching is going to be great for next season. – I do not quite understand this.
The Braves have only TWO Starters who can really be considered to be good bets (Hudson and Hanson) to be outstanding starting pitchers. Then they have QUESTION MARKS in the other THREE Starting roles.
JJ’s knee injury may not be much to be concerned about, BUT he has never been dependable/effectice since his SHOULDER injury – like he was in his first season. Lowe is old and will be a year older – will He be the Lowe of September or the Lowe of most of the rest of last season or even far worse? Of course, Medlin is injured and out for the season and may or may not even ever be effective again. Minor and the other rookies are promising but unproven.
The Starting Pitching may be good, OR it could be a huge, huge PROBLEM.

yogi2

October 20th, 2010
9:42 am

Melky wasn’t great, but he was better than the 3 stooges(and Diaz, McLouse and Ankiel. The braves need to release the infielder that can’t catch a cold. Conrad is a career minor league substitute player at best.
Shame on Cox for keeping him on the roster

Doug

October 20th, 2010
9:45 am

.Don is dead right about the pitching.

Edward

October 20th, 2010
9:49 am

how about trying to trade for Ryan braun?

I just don't get it???

October 20th, 2010
9:50 am

What’s the hold up?

Why have we not released:
Ankiel (a pitcher),
McLouth (minor leaguer),
D Lee ( washed up old man),
Diaz (exposed when faced playoff caliber pitching)
and
Glaus (only because Wren hates people who drive in 70 runs by end of JULY),

oh yea, and Frank Wren ( ruined a first place team with all the CHANGES to a FIRST PLACE TEAM)

David O'Brien

October 20th, 2010
9:53 am

I read DOB’s comments that the Braves don’t have the budget (i.e don’t want to spend the money) to chase Crawford or Werth. Unfortunately, it takes money to win in the Big Leagues. milesarcher33

You say this the morning after the Rangers take a 3-1 series lead on the Yankees, whose $200-million-plus payroll is about four times the Rangers’ payroll, and the Giants take series lead on the Phillies, who also have the much larger payroll between the two teams.

braves29

October 20th, 2010
9:55 am

Say goodbye to: Melky, Ankiel, and Diaz. Can we please get an everyday LF with 25 hr power. Can’t go another year with a punchless OF!

I just don't get it???

October 20th, 2010
10:01 am

omg i forgot about Conrad (can’t catch a cold)

I swear is any one htose guys are on the roster next April I am done with this bunch of minor leaguers!

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