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P-Town Brave ©
October 18th, 2010
3:53 pm
Robert-
IF I recall correctly, the Rangers traded Edinson Volquez to Cincinnati for Josh Hamilton…
Hmm, wonder how thats worked out for Texas
Try again there fella’
RC
October 18th, 2010
3:53 pm
Wren’s job isnt to build a winner. Wren’s job is to use his allotted budget to put together a product that maximizes profit for the Braves organization
Not true. Wren’s job is to build a winner. Terry McGuirk and John Scherholtz’s jobs are to put together a product that maximized profit for the Braves organization. Slight but important difference.
P-Town Brave ©
October 18th, 2010
3:55 pm
Awesome job there @ 3:50 TP…
Agreed that our team apparently is better at accounting than fielding a championship team…
We seem to be the “team of spin” as somehow we get a budget increase out of going from ~95M to ~83M…
TennesseePaul
October 18th, 2010
3:55 pm
That’s how a lot of teams end up long “rebuilding” periods.
How long is too long? The Braves haven’t back loaded a contract and they were absent the post season for five years. The Pirates haven’t had a contract to speak of in nearly two decades and they haven’t had a winning season in that long. Long “rebuilding” periods result largely from a front office full of assclowns.
RC
October 18th, 2010
3:56 pm
Hey, Freeman just hit a triple in the AFL.
UnretireBobbyCox
October 18th, 2010
3:57 pm
ah… Robert.. still being the smartaxx… lol. Let’s see what is next for him now that Bobby C. retired!
MFin04
October 18th, 2010
3:58 pm
So realistically what kind of deal would it take to get Crawford or Werth?
The one thing that boggles my mind is that we knowingly overpaid for Chipper, Lowe, and KK but won’t overpay for an everyday outfielder that we desperately need.
And the Braves should have gotten rid KK and his contract a while ago. Problem was they didn’t want to eat half of his contract. Well sometimes you have to do that and look on the bright-side that you aren’t paying his full contract.
My point is this. The Braves need Werth/Crawford as desperately as they needed Derek Lowe. Yeh, they overpaid for Lowe, but they had to. Same situation. Braves really need a great outfielder…let’s see what they come up with.
CraZyTRaDeMaN
October 18th, 2010
3:59 pm
I’ve heard more sense from Alzheimer’s patients
Funny thats what I say everytime I read a comment from you or your buddy .Dot.Don-Key.
ncscoots
October 18th, 2010
3:59 pm
Long “rebuilding” periods result largely from a front office full of assclowns.
TennPaul is lit UP today, by God, LOL. Give ‘em hell, big fella, I got your back.
DS1
October 18th, 2010
3:59 pm
10Paul
It’s real easy to spend somebody else’ money……..
TennesseePaul
October 18th, 2010
4:00 pm
It’s real easy to spend somebody else’ money……
hell ya it is. I just bought four new 50″ plasma screens on your tab.
unbelievable
October 18th, 2010
4:02 pm
Braves need 2 OF’rs not just one.
DS1
October 18th, 2010
4:03 pm
The Braves are not in a rebuilding mode. I’d say we are fairly set at 20 of our 25 roster spots. That’s not rebuilding.
DS1
October 18th, 2010
4:05 pm
unbelievable
Actually, we might need 3-4 outfielders…….
I suspect folks aren’t going to care for most of those choices though.
Crawford will probably end up with his buddy in Anaheim, and Werth is a Boras client, so he goes to the top dollar. Boston or Philadelphia?
P-Town Brave ©
October 18th, 2010
4:06 pm
Fin-
Realistically?
Hmm…how about the CEO of Liberty taking a swan dive out his 52nd story window of his corporate office and then Liberty has to immediately sell the Braves…
That realistic enough?
Bobby's Cox
October 18th, 2010
4:10 pm
Bullpen is good, SP is good. The lineup needs a bit of a shakeup, but long as we can focus on 1 area, which we are, we’ll be fine.
In previous offseasons leading up to this one, we had to focus on pitching and hitting. Wren’s done well solidifying the pitching.
balla1881
October 18th, 2010
4:11 pm
What kind of deal would it take to get Arizona OF Chris Young? Arizona seemed to be selling off their pieces at the trade dead line. Young’s line this year 27 HR, 91 RBI, 28 steals. .257/.341/.452 thats really really good and he’s not reguarded around baseball as a superstar yet so his price will be a little lower, I know he’s not a Beltran or Werth but uh, pretty damn close. My guess – The deal could be based on Teheran with some other low level, high ceiling type of guys. Hey, maybe we could throw in KK
MFin04
October 18th, 2010
4:11 pm
We need to make a list of players of who we would be satisfied with if the Braves acquired them to play LF or CF.
nolie
October 18th, 2010
4:14 pm
you’re absolutely right If there is a taker for Derek Lowe then you have to move him unbelievable
with JJ questionable and Medlen out, I seriously doubt they will make any attempt to trade starting pitching unless they also get a decent one back. pretty unlikely IMO
CB
October 18th, 2010
4:16 pm
Blog love for Rasmus just went up – Larussa coming back to St.Louis.
Shaun
October 18th, 2010
4:16 pm
I don’t get the fascination with Carl Crawford. Sure he’s a solid player and I’d love to see him playing leftfield for the Braves. But he’s nothing more than solid and he’s going to get paid like he’s one of the best players in the game. Maybe he fools everyone and repeats his 2010 season as he approaches 30 and beyond but I think it’s more likely that 2010 is the best we’ll see of Crawford. I think it’s risky and dangerous for a team like the Braves, with their budget, to pay him what he’ll command.
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
October 18th, 2010
4:16 pm
raleighbravefan (re: your Emliy Proctor post)
Wow, didn’t know she was from where your at and that you know her parents still live there.
All I know is…she could arrest me ANYTIME…and at ANYPLACE..(LOL)..
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
October 18th, 2010
4:17 pm
opps….Emily*
MiaBchBravesFan
October 18th, 2010
4:17 pm
(I am sure it has been commented already, but I thought I would drop my two cents in on this…)
I don’t know what the Marlins were asking for with Cody Ross, but if the Braves – or for that matter any of the other playoff teams – could’ve predicted that Ross would be ready for playoff prime time, I would’ve made that trade in a heartbeat.
I think that it is very safe to say that if the Braves would’ve traded for Ross – knowing what we know now, the Bravos beat the Giants and take the phils to seven games in this series.
Folks, you have not heard the last of Cody Ross in this series! He is an uber-Lemke!
Bobby's Cox
October 18th, 2010
4:18 pm
Robert,
Wren’s job IS to put together a winning team. Don’t know how you don’t understand that.
The number one way to boost revenues in sports, if you know anything about sports marketing, is to WIN. Being it Wren’s job to put together the team the Braves field, and your beliefs that it’s his job to make the team profitable, only way it could happen, by even your own logic even, is to put together a winning team.
I don’t understand your hatred for this team, whether it’s the former manager, the new general manager, the old general manager, the owner, the fans and their lack of attendance, their game play, etc… Really, what do you like about this organization enough to call yourself a fan?
MiaBchBravesFan
October 18th, 2010
4:19 pm
AND I don’t know what his arbitration price is going to be, but I would re-sign Scott Proctor for 2011.
I really think he will contribute – and won’t be expensive.
DS1
October 18th, 2010
4:19 pm
Teheran for Chris Young? Nah. Young has a pretty hefty contract, and his splits aren’t that great away from AZ.
But to be honest, we could do worse. Just not Teheran. Maybe Hoover would get it done? We could throw in McLouth???
RC
October 18th, 2010
4:21 pm
Teheran for Chris Young? Nah. Young has a pretty hefty contract, and his splits aren’t that great away from AZ.
But to be honest, we could do worse. Just not Teheran. Maybe Hoover would get it done? We could throw in McLouth???
I would not trade Teheran for 2 Chris Youngs.
ncscoots
October 18th, 2010
4:23 pm
nolie, how are ya? Anymore, I never seem to be around here when you are. Good to see you.
keylargo
October 18th, 2010
4:25 pm
Why would Wren trade Lowe when he is doing exactly what he signed him to do? Win games, eat innings and anchor the staff? Last year I could understand if Lowe was shopped but not now.
DS1
October 18th, 2010
4:25 pm
Miami Beach
Proctor will probably get an offer. He’ll be back, unless he gets a better offer elsewhere. Might be a good hedge for the pen next year.
I’d love to see the Braves give Saito an invite to ST, maybe on a minor league contact with major league money if he gets healthy.
Let’s hope we don’t have to deal any of our top young bullpen arms this winter for an outfielder. I’d let Dunn go, but hopefully not any of the others.
Gary O
October 18th, 2010
4:25 pm
I know we have talked about the Braves $84 – $90 mil payroll before.
But keep in mind that the Rangers payroll is $55 mil (having Feliz and Andrus helps), and the Rays payroll is $72 mil. So it can be done.
What’s holding us back? Chipper, Nate, Lowe and KK ($41 mil combined). And of that list, Lowe is the only one I would say is coming close to earning his salary.
Hillbilly
October 18th, 2010
4:26 pm
Frank from KS, Emily Procter is a good-looking gal and has a sexy voice no doubt, but I’d rather be arrested by Agents Jennifer Jareau and Elle Greenaway any day of the week. “Put your hands where I can see ‘em.”
DS1
October 18th, 2010
4:26 pm
keylargo
Amen on Lowe! A deal for Jurrjens wouldn’t be overly surprising, but my guess is that doesn’t happen either.
rainman34
October 18th, 2010
4:27 pm
how bout kk and nate for figgins plus braves even out contracts and a low level minor leaguer. Figgins plays left and leads off. Returns to the guy he was before.
CraZyTRaDeMaN
October 18th, 2010
4:28 pm
Larussa coming back to St.Louis
Oh well……. Sorry .dot.Don-key
MFin04
October 18th, 2010
4:30 pm
Shaun – It is always bad to overpay for someone, but the Crawford does a lot of things well. Great range in the outfield. Has to have a better arm than McLouth. Great speed. Great average. Hits for some power. Very intelligent base runner. Hard worker. If you are going to overpay for someone, it seems like a guy that does A LOT of things well would be a good guy to overpay for. Not to mention he could play CF and move McLouth to LF if that’s the best we can do in LF.
ijudgenot
October 18th, 2010
4:30 pm
Here is a quick remedy to KK,McClouth and Lowe guaranteed contract problem.
KK owed $7Mill next year
Mclouth owed $6Mill next year
Lowe owed 30Mill next 2 years
Renegotiate Lowe’s contract to be spread out over 3 years instead of two. That pays him $10Mill a year for 3 years. Take out Hampton insurance policy in case his arm blows out. The guy has a rubber arm that allows him to throw 85-89mph sinker and get major league hitters out. Will be able to throw that until he is 39 which is 3 years from now. Take the $10Mill saved over next 2 years and pay half of KK and Mclouth saleries for team that takes them and gives back a prospect or two.
Gary O
October 18th, 2010
4:31 pm
keylargo,
The reason for exploring trade options for Lowe this offseason is to sell high. What if next year, he goes back to being the Lowe of last year, who many of us (including Wren) wanted to trade?
There would not be a market for him, and we would be stuck paying his $15 mil salary one more year.
But I can understand keeping him too. 200 innings, 16 wins, good postseason performer.
It will be interesting to see what Wren does
Shaun
October 18th, 2010
4:31 pm
MiaBchBravesFan, it seems like the Marlins were asking a lot and may have been asking more from the Braves, a team within their division. Also, I’m sure the Braves were reluctant to give up talented young players for a guy who has been solid but not overly spectacular.
I think what we are seeing with Ross is a pretty good player having an outstanding few games. I don’t think we can read much into it beyond that.
ncscoots
October 18th, 2010
4:34 pm
Renegotiate Lowe’s contract to be spread out over 3 years instead of two. That pays him $10Mill a year for 3 years.
And that would be attractive to Lowe why, exactly, LOL?
Mr. Turnip-Green Jeans
October 18th, 2010
4:35 pm
Bobby’s Cox
“Bullpen is good, SP is good. The lineup needs a bit of a shakeup, but long as we can focus on 1 area, which we are, we’ll be fine.
In previous offseasons leading up to this one, we had to focus on pitching and hitting. Wren’s done well solidifying the pitching.”
This is the most sensible thing I’ve read here today.
Summa y’all need to lay off the crack pipe a couple days and regroup..
nolie
October 18th, 2010
4:37 pm
Braves get: Braun from Brewers
Brewers get: Infante and JJ
sigh. no GM in his right mind is gonna trade an impact player like Braun for an injured pitcher. it ain’t happening in real life. what if JJ doesn’t come back healthy, or is healthy but doesn’t have more success than his peripherals say he should, like he did for two years? The GM would be run out of town on a rail.
I Miss Ted Turner
October 18th, 2010
4:39 pm
“Braves tired of planning while others play for pennant”
Nothing will change if they continue to pick up broken down players from other teams’ scrap heaps.
Shaun
October 18th, 2010
4:41 pm
MFin04, Crawford is a very good player, obviously, but I don’t think he does as many important things well as a lot of people give him credit for, at least relative to the very best players in the game. But he’s likely going to get paid like one of the very best players in the game. Again, I have no problem with a team with the budget of the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Angels, etc. paying Crawford like one of the very best players in the game. They probably should. But I think it would be very risky and a mistake for most teams to pay him like that.
What’s wrong with Crawford? Well, “wrong” is a relative term. In a vacuum there is nothing wrong with Crawford and I’d love to see him in a Braves uniform. But when you take into account his likely contract and his age and his skill set, there are some risks. It may seem like nit-picking, and it will be if it turns out Crawford is paid like merely an above-average leftfielder and not one of the best players in the game.
keylargo
October 18th, 2010
4:42 pm
Gary O
I understand your worries about Lowe in 2012, but that is why he is a Brave. The Mets offered Lowe 3 years @ $15M but Wren upped the offer to 4 years. I would think that Wren did his homework and thought Lowe was going to be able to pitch for 4 years or else he would have made an offer like 3 years @ $16M. Just IMO though, but FW knows a lot better than me.
nolie
October 18th, 2010
4:43 pm
would the Cards possibly consider trading McLouth for Rasmus straight up, with the Braves paying for most or all of McLouth’s salaray?
you have GOT to be kidding, right????
Lew
October 18th, 2010
4:46 pm
Tomas – Wren has already indicated that Teheran and Delgado will be invited to Braves’ Spring Training in February. That pretty much tells me neither are on the trading block.
Lew
October 18th, 2010
4:47 pm
nolie-Anything goes – we’ve already had the obligatory “Get Coco Crisp” post, so ’tis the season for insane trades – yet again.
ncscoots
October 18th, 2010
4:48 pm
The GM would be run out of town on a rail.
Just ask Bill DeWitt.
unbelievable
October 18th, 2010
4:48 pm
“the Cards possibly consider trading McLouth for Rasmus straight up, with the Braves paying for most or all of McLouth’s salaray?”
HA HA HA…you do understand that he’s the best young CF’r in baseball and Nate is, what, the worst?
DS1
October 18th, 2010
4:49 pm
nolie
What’s wrong w/ McLouth for Rasmus? We’d eat all McLouths’ salary. Like us getting Rasmus for the price of McLouth, and the Cards getting McLouth for the price of Rasmus.
Now why wouldn’t they be happy with that deal?
and the lunacy has been going on and on and on all day………
Mr. Turnip-Green Jeans
October 18th, 2010
4:50 pm
That crack pipe is evidently glowing today..
Efrim
October 18th, 2010
4:50 pm
you have GOT to be kidding, right????
Yeah, that’s where I kinda went off on a rant and questioned why people hate on Rasmus. I’ve seen more than just this, though. I think the La Russa thing makes people think we can get him for nothing.
DS1
October 18th, 2010
4:51 pm
Lew
And don’t forget the overtures towards Ryan Freel coming out of retirement!!!
the Owl of Prophecy
October 18th, 2010
4:51 pm
Bobby Cox was a better than average manager who was blessed with great talent and Ted’s checkbook. I hope Freddie will get us back on track.
Lew
October 18th, 2010
4:52 pm
DS1-But nary a Ryan reel suggestion sighting yet. I guess he was serious when he said he was retiring. Until a week ago, he might have considered doing a Brett Farve and returning. Now it’s unclear what “Doing a Brett Farve” might be.
nolie
October 18th, 2010
4:52 pm
The Braves could sign a Werth or a Crawford. They’d just have to defer a bigger portion of the salary till 2012/2013 when Chipper, Lowe, Hudson, etc salaries come off the books and then you have Medlen, Minor, Beachy, Teheren, etc… in the pitching staff making minimums.
and why in the world would either of those players do that when there are 100million dollar contracts available with paychecks arriving on time?
MFin04
October 18th, 2010
4:54 pm
I get not overpaying for Crawford, but if you don’t overpay for a guy like Crawford or Werth…what are the other alternatives?
Better to overpay for Crawford or Werth than to be stuck with a outfield comprised of guys like Melky Cabrera, Nate Mclouth, and Rick Ankiel.
If there are cheaper more suitable options, than by all means go out and get those guys. But if its gonna take trading Lowe, Hanson, or Jurrjens to get someone worse than Crawford or Werth you are better off overpaying than trading proven starting pitching to get less in return.
MikeInFl
October 18th, 2010
4:55 pm
When the Marlins cut Ross loose, he was hitting .265/.316/.405, with 30 BB and 100 K’s in 452 ab’s. And the Braves had just won 9 of 12, a period during which they were scoring a very adequate 5 runs per game. And we were a season-best (I think) 22 games over .500.
Of course you can apply the description “better than any of our outfielders not named Heyward” to him and just about anyone else, but I don’t think it’s fair to criticize Wren for not going guns-a-blazing after Cody Ross in August.
DS1
October 18th, 2010
4:57 pm
I just did a simple spreadsheet of our 2010 and projected 2011 salaries. Not including Ankiel and Farnsworth’s contracts, we paid out roughly 85 million last year.
If we do not resign Melky and Diaz and lose the salaries of Hinske, Wagner, Saito; then add in arbitration raises to Jurrjens, OF, Moylan and Prado, I project our salary would be in the 79 million range. Taking into accounts modest raises for the youngsters. Very modest.
So that gives us 6 million to spend to get to where we were before???
We might could get some salary relief from McLouth and KK, but it will not be too large, as they aren’t worth much more than 2-4 million total.
Not too much there for Werth or Crawford fellas. Can we quit kicking that dead horse, as it is now just a bloody spot on the road?
So, we are still in the Rasmus sweepstakes. Not sure if Young is still in play though.
Not much to play with there folks………….
P-Town Brave ©
October 18th, 2010
4:57 pm
Fin-
I still go back and say that going after Holliday would have been the best bet…
Question is, if we don’t pay “bad” money for a good FA, and instead pay “good” money for a BAD FA, then what is left out there next season for us to b*tch and moan about again after Frank signs some has been or someone they try to assume will rise to stardom…
Yes, we all agree that it is what it is, but when is enough enough? When will they realize that rather than throw away 2 and 3M dollars at a time, they can just pay up front and actually receive talent!
ncscoots
October 18th, 2010
4:58 pm
Deferred-money contracts almost by definition have to have significantly higher total dollars than one without deferment. Time has a value for large sums, and a deferred value must more than make up for the loss of that value. Otherwise, what’s the upside for the player? Can’t expect a guy to take the same money, except get it later.
P-Town Brave ©
October 18th, 2010
5:01 pm
^^ Isn’t this what Chipper pretty much does every year?
I mean he certainly isn’t doing what he’s getting paid to do most of the season…
P-Town Brave ©
October 18th, 2010
5:04 pm
Oh, and the upside…
Well, for Chipper its only playing 100 games in a season and still receiving your entire paycheck
nolie
October 18th, 2010
5:06 pm
Young’s line this year 27 HR, 91 RBI, 28 steals. .257/.341/.452 thats really really good and he’s not reguarded around baseball as a superstar yet so his price will be a little lower, balla
almost all of which was produced in ‘zona the best hitters park in the NL. he pretty much stunk away from home and that is why nobody with any sense yet considers him a budding superstar.
P-Town Brave ©
October 18th, 2010
5:06 pm
Sorry guys…
For some reason when it comes to our budget issues I immediately think Chipper.
P-Town Brave ©
October 18th, 2010
5:06 pm
Nolie-
Sounds like that “other” guy in Arizona that everyone started talking about again
DS1
October 18th, 2010
5:10 pm
How about a minor league contract offer and ST invite to Micah Owings, ex Red and D’back hurler/hitter.
He’s a Georgia boy, and was released by the Reds. I wonder if he could play any LF?
P-Town Brave ©
October 18th, 2010
5:13 pm
^^ Yeah, because we need another Rick Ankiel out there…
Paul
October 18th, 2010
5:14 pm
Would ya’ll use your heads, we are not gonna get colby, and we are not gonna sign crawford or werth with our payroll! jesus think people idiots!!
nolie
October 18th, 2010
5:14 pm
so many folks not only overvalue our mediocre players but they act like a deal takes place in a vacuum. anybody worth having is gonna have multiple suitors. the other GM doesn’t have to accept our injured or our pariahs
nolie
October 18th, 2010
5:17 pm
I hope Freddie will get us back on track.
there is next to nobody in baseball who thinks that Fredi is a better manager now than Bobby has been for ages. That is strictly a concept enbraced by perhaps 20% of Braves fans, just like the 20-25% of fans of other teams who hate on their managers. It’s a coping mechanism not a fact
P-Town Brave ©
October 18th, 2010
5:18 pm
I agree w/ that Nolie, and to get rid of a soured piece, you either have to trade for a soured piece or sweeten the pot so to speak…
Given what Frank said and the history of our OF, I am almost resigned to the fact that we’ll more than likely end up with a non matching hubcap and a torn car cover to go with our Benz in RF.
TnBrian
October 18th, 2010
5:23 pm
Face it– the Braves are stuck with McLouth. Nobody will want him and that money hanging over him unless Atlanta were to pay half or more of his contract while throwing in a decent or very good prospect in the deal. That ain’t happening.
HuffBraves
October 18th, 2010
5:26 pm
Ha!
Just read an interesting article about identifying who the next Carlos Gonzalez will be, in terms of a breakout power/speed threat. Most of the names on the list are pretty reasonable, but my favorite is the first name in the “honorable mentions” category. About spit my coffee out when I read that…
http://www.rotoauthority.com/2010/10/the-next-carlos-gonzalez.html
DS1
October 18th, 2010
5:26 pm
TnBrian
I am resigned to the fact that Nate will be roaming the outfield for us next year. Let’s just hope he has a comeback in him.
nolie
October 18th, 2010
5:27 pm
likely end up with a non matching hubcap and a torn car cover to go with our Benz in RF
very descriptive P-Town I enjoyed the imagery. I think we get one decent OFer, and I’m afraid he will actually be more second tier than first. and then maybe a 4th OFer non-tendered guy at most. As I said yesterday, they seem to be perfectly OK with just being in contention and unwilling to add thae first tier player that would make an impact. I understand that approach, but like many fans I get a bit disappointed this time of year anymore knowing with 90% certainty that the stars are not within out reach at all. It was more fun when you felt they at least had a chance at one even if it didn’t materialize…eg the Arod days
TnBrian
October 18th, 2010
5:31 pm
Enter your comments here
Tomahawk
October 18th, 2010
5:33 pm
“The Braves aren’t included to overpay for any free agents, with the recent exception of Lowe, who signed in unusual circumstances when the Braves were rather desperate to land a front-line pitcher after losing out on others.”
I realize pitching is one of the single most important parts of a team, but how in the world is our outfield any less of an “unusual situation”? we’ve had GREAT pitching the last two years and very little to show for it. why? because we’ve easily had one of the absolute worst offensive outfields over the last few years. the outfield is absolutely crippling what would otherwise be a very good team. how is there any less desperation? there shouldn’t be. the organization has invested a lot of resources into building a very good product, yet have one glaring need that should put them over the top and give them a winner ( or: access to postseason revenue, if you front office folks are listening). it’s like shelling out the dough for a ‘vette and settling on three tires. unbelievable.
TnBrian
October 18th, 2010
5:33 pm
I hate when I type something up that I think is worth reading on the blog spits it out. I’m not typing it again. F*** it. It was about how I think the OF we get will come through a trade and why I’m not surprised some on here keep mentioning the big FA this winter as targets. We get that every year around here. The excpetion was Lowe because we were hammered with injuries to our starters and he is/was reliable. KK was a huge mistake that will never happen again.
TnBrian
October 18th, 2010
5:39 pm
DS1, you can’t depend on Nate. They have to look at him as nothing more than a backup bench option when evaluating the team this winter. Lord knows that kid is about as dependable as Chipper’s groin, or his feet, or his many other body parts that fail him these days.
It’s funny that so far the two guys mentioned here and other Braves sites are guys that have bad attitudes, or seem to anyways. Rasmus and Kemp. If so, do we want their filth here? We’re already stuck with Gonzalez’ pouty BS after every one of his little league type at bats.
JeanE
October 18th, 2010
5:48 pm
Why does everyone think MattE Diaz is 35?? He was born in 1978, people. That makes him 32, turning 33 in January, I believe. They said it wrong on one of the playoff telecasts, dumbies. I know he will not be offered arbitration but I still have hope they will negotiate something with him & bring him back as the 4th outfielder. Please bring MattE D back!!!!!
DS1
October 18th, 2010
5:48 pm
I can put up with Gonzalez “pouty BS” after every one of his AB’s. Since he is only costing us 2.5 million next year, fields pretty good and has more power than most of our hitters in the lineup, bad OBP and all.
As for Rasmus and Kemp, yes they have had some issues this year. But who else are you going to get that can hit as good as those two can.
I think McLouth will have a comeback year.
nolie
October 18th, 2010
5:49 pm
Filth? that’s kina self-righteous and judgmental ain’t it?
and just copy your post b4 sending it. it will be right there to paste back into the blog if it spits it out
DS1
October 18th, 2010
5:50 pm
Jean
I fully expect Matt back next year. He wants to come back, and that’s half the battle. Hopefully he will be reasonable on his salary requirements.
nolie
October 18th, 2010
5:51 pm
more power than most of our hitters in the lineup DS1
I wouldn’t go that far, he has more single digit homer totals than double digit ones.
nolie
October 18th, 2010
5:53 pm
only trouble with Mattie is that he really ain’t a 4th OFer defense wise. he cain’t play CF at all. I like him and hope he comes back too, but depending on who else they decide on his lack of versatility might hurt his chances
DS1
October 18th, 2010
5:55 pm
nolie
McCann and Heyward are better.
Prado, Chipper are about equal.
I dunno, I might be right on this one.
DS1
October 18th, 2010
5:58 pm
nolie
Definitely agreed on Matty. And a lot of Gonzo’s seasons were cut short by some injuries, I think.
I see Gonzo as a 15-18 HR guy over a full season. Nate is better if he is playing too. And that Kemmus or Rasp guy would be better. Maybe I am wrong after all………..
DS1
October 18th, 2010
5:59 pm
Dang it Frank, what’s the hold up?
When do the org meetings start?
Rob from SC
October 18th, 2010
6:01 pm
DOB
What role do the Braves view Medlen long term
nolie
October 18th, 2010
6:04 pm
I don’t think its a matter of being wrong, just a bit of hyperbole perhaps. every so often he does hit a few taters. if he plays all year which,unfortunately is not his usual MO, he should get about 15 + or -
Coach (2011 and Fredi G. a GO!)
October 18th, 2010
6:06 pm
Carl Crawford will be in Yankee pin stripes or end up with the Red Sox.
DS1
October 18th, 2010
6:06 pm
Tomahawk
I think it is a lot different. If you don’t have enough pitching to keep you in a game, a good offense doesn’t matter much. And you state we have nothing to show for the past two years. Well, we have improved considerably over the past two years, and as I remember correctly, we actually made the playoffs inspite of our outfield.
We didn’t advance primarily due to injuries and an anemic offense.
BUT, the main reason you don’t see the Braves going out and overspending this winter is due to one thing: Budget restraints, pure and simple.
A team will be much more competitive with good pitching and mediocre hitting than the opposite.
nolie
October 18th, 2010
6:06 pm
good question Rob, it could depend on the make up of the remaining staff. he can do well either way which gives them some flexibility depending on who we keep as starters and how the younguns like Teheran and Delgado do in a few years.
DS1
October 18th, 2010
6:08 pm
Coach
Supposedly, the Angels are going to make a play for him also.
nolie
Yes, true. And I am most often full of it too!
DS1
October 18th, 2010
6:10 pm
Personally, I think Rain-man Spandex Funkyburger will be our knight in shining armour in a year or so.
DS1
October 18th, 2010
6:12 pm
899
DS1
October 18th, 2010
6:13 pm
900
Now we are on a new page………