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RC

October 19th, 2010
12:43 pm

So does that fact that Melky and Saito were released but none of the other arb eligibles were mean that they will be keeping Diaz, O’Flaherty, Moylan, etc.? Or just that these were obvious decisions and they haven’t made a decision on the others yet?

Ease™ in Sandy Springs

October 19th, 2010
12:44 pm

J.C Boscan was also removed from 40 man (or released, however you want to say it)…

P-Town Brave ©

October 19th, 2010
12:45 pm

RC-

I would have to assume that these are still ongoing discussions that will probably be decided a bit more during the meetings, but also based on what we do with trades or FA signings…

Remember, there still is quite a bit of time to decide what to do with arb eligible players.

Nova Scotia Steve

October 19th, 2010
12:47 pm

GOODBYE and GOOD RIDDANCE

The Braves released Melky Cabrera, according to MLB.com’s Mark Bowman.

TnBrian

October 19th, 2010
12:47 pm

Well– the offseason is already looking positive. No more of the MelkDud’s sorry carcus around our team. Liked Saito and all, but the man is an inuury walking. Shame too because he still has real good stuff. Whatever.

David O'Brien

October 19th, 2010
12:48 pm

Saito didn’t have the service time to be a free agent and bring back compensatory draft picks, but his contract said he had to be released after the season if Braves didn’t re-sign him.

Murph

October 19th, 2010
12:48 pm

“And by your criteria, every worker out there that has made a large salary by virtue of working hard for so long should be released and a cheaper, less knowledgeable workere should be hired because they’re cheaper.”

I believe in putting the best team on the field. Teams that win don’t win because they are fielding a team of 40 year old nice guys who were loyal to the organization.

I don’t think your generalization above is accurate. Your use of “less knowledgeable” implies less skilled. I’m not saying a player with less skill should be put in to play third, I’m saying the opposite. The best player, regardless of years of service, should be put out there.

Chipper may very well prove to be the best player for this job. If not, running him out there because of some perceived loyalty or because he’s owed something is, to me, wrong.

Hillbilly

October 19th, 2010
12:48 pm

“Maybe we should bring Melky back. Can’t be any worse than __________.”

This quote is coming in less than 1 year. You can hang your hat on that.

Nova Scotia Steve

October 19th, 2010
12:51 pm

“The thought of not seeing Cabrera in a Braves uniform next season will make watching the NLCS a lot easier next year today.”

DAP

October 19th, 2010
12:53 pm

The Braves released Melky Cabrera, according to MLB.com’s Mark Bowman.

now we really have nothing to show for the vazquez trade.

Nova Scotia Steve

October 19th, 2010
12:53 pm

DAP – Don’t forget the elusive Mike Dunn

ncscoots

October 19th, 2010
12:54 pm

This quote is coming in less than 1 year. You can hang your hat on that.

Give me an over/under in months. :-)

Murph

October 19th, 2010
12:54 pm

“now we really have nothing to show for the vazquez trade.”

Dunn and Vizcaino are worth 100 Melkys.

T for Texas

October 19th, 2010
12:54 pm

now we really have nothing to show for the vazquez trade.

If it makes you feel better DAP, neither do the Yankees.

DAP

October 19th, 2010
12:55 pm

hehe, just yanking your chain, guys :- )

McFann O O – 6

October 19th, 2010
12:55 pm

P-Town Brave Well, that and my constant reminder of not wanting to read McFann complaining about BMac batting 4th

Well, thanks a lot, P-Town! :evil:

;)

Nova Scotia Steve

October 19th, 2010
12:56 pm

DOB – Those two move constitutes more than $8 million in salary – correct? I know Saito had incentives and whatnot and Melky was around $3.1 million

Hard to believe those two players took up that much money – but Saito was pretty solid I must admit.

CraZyTRaDeMaN

October 19th, 2010
12:56 pm

Only Hudson and Hanson seem to be really great bets to be effective — Lowe is a year older and who knows, JJ has never been dependable/effective since his shoulder injury anything close to his first year, and Minor and Beachy are both unproven. The pitching could be good or it could be a huge problem.—–Don

I wouldn’t count on Hudson or Hanson either Don. You forget that Tim has many community activities he’s involved in he could easily get in a serious car accident and be seriously hurt. Same goes for Tommy Hanson. I hear Hanson may be getting some INK done on his right arm supposedly something similar to the ball on fire on Hudson’s arm. What if that sucker gets infected? It’s unlike you to overlook such significant issues I’m so disappointed.

Gary O

October 19th, 2010
12:57 pm

I think the best we can hope for from Chipper is that he plays 125 games, hits .290 or better, with a high OBP. And thats why I think the #2 spot is good for him.

However, I am concerned that our biggest risk (in terms of health) is our highest paid position player. I’m not sure how you plan for that? Bring Brooks back?

Murph,

I’m not sure about 6-8 (probably some order of Nate, Freeman, and AGon), but my 1-5 lineup would be:

Prado
Chipper
Heyward
Free Agent OF
Brian

TnBrian

October 19th, 2010
12:57 pm

Hillbilly, oh yeah, you know it. People are always saying stuff like that around here.

This should be a fun offseason. We have a lot of good pieces already in place and I think one or two big to even decent moves could put us as one of the better teams in the league heading into 2010. Maybe even the best team going into the spring. On paper anyways. We all know injuries, off years from certain guys,etc. can happen. I’m excited to see who we get out there. I’m betting we won’t have to wait a long time to find out either. Wren seems to like to move pretty fast.

Efrim

October 19th, 2010
1:04 pm

So does that fact that Melky and Saito were released but none of the other arb eligibles were mean that they will be keeping Diaz, O’Flaherty, Moylan, etc.?

If we get a big bat in CF, then keeping Diaz and platooning him with Nate in LF might be a route they go…..not that I think that’s the best route to go, but I’m sure they are keeping their options open.

On Melky being released. Thank you, Frank.

Tomas

October 19th, 2010
1:04 pm

Those two lines DOB are worth around 6.2 million, maybe even more with Saito’s incentives.

T for Texas

October 19th, 2010
1:05 pm

After seeing the dude pitch in the playoffs we might need to start referring ot the Vazquez trade as the Boone Logan trade.

P-Town Brave ©

October 19th, 2010
1:07 pm

McFann-

As you can guess, that was said playfully…as I don’t want him batting 4th either…

I really REALLY want Matt Kemp…just imagine…

Prado
Jones
Heyward
Kemp
McCann
Freeman
Gonzalez
McLouth

At least that on paper looks a bit better than what we’ve had…Granted I’d like to get an established 1/2 hitter, but we really could only do that if we rid ourselves of McLouth, and guys, lets not kid ourselves, that probably isn’t happening…

That being said, IF we got our hitting coach in, and he reinvented Nate, then he could bat 1 or 2…not saying it’ll happen or even could, but anything is possible.

bigchieeeeeeeeeeeeefrg

October 19th, 2010
1:09 pm

Anybody pick up the new Kings of Leon CD yet today? How is it?

RC

October 19th, 2010
1:12 pm

I like the idea of Jones at #2, but I do worry a bit about his speed (or lack of) being on the basepaths in front of Heyward on a regular basis. Heyward is really the only player on the team that can occasionally flash game-changing speed, and if Chipper is running in front of him I’m afraid we’ll see a lot of doubles turned to singles, and no scoring from first on a double…

SoWeGa Fanatic

October 19th, 2010
1:14 pm

DAP

October 19th, 2010
12:53 pm
The Braves released Melky Cabrera, according to MLB.com’s Mark Bowman.

now we really have nothing to show for the vazquez trade.
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Cabrera was the least of the 3 players we got in that deal, plus payroll flexibility.

SoWeGa Fanatic

October 19th, 2010
1:17 pm

The playoffs aren’t even over, and I am bored with the off-season already.

DAP

October 19th, 2010
1:20 pm

RC if Chipper is running in front of him I’m afraid we’ll see a lot of doubles turned to singles, and no scoring from first on a double…

dont worry about it. chipper is a very good baserunner. theres no way he could turn a would-be double into a single, trust me.

I Miss Ted Turner

October 19th, 2010
1:21 pm

Good riddance, Melky.

DAP

October 19th, 2010
1:22 pm

sowega fanatic The playoffs aren’t even over, and I am bored with the off-season already.

the offseason doesnt really begin until the playoffs are over. it will have its share of excitement i think.

shmoe

October 19th, 2010
1:22 pm

i’m still reeling from game 3…wow, what’s wrong with me?? lol

RC

October 19th, 2010
1:22 pm

DAP,

I agree that Chipper is a very good baserunner, but he was already fairly slow before the knee injury. In his own words, if he loses a step due to this injury “I’ll be going backwards.”

Gary O

October 19th, 2010
1:22 pm

P-Town Brave,

With Kemp being right handed, I like that lineup. In fact, I prefer that lineup (offensively) to:

Prado
Chipper
Heyward
Rasmus
Brian

That’s 3 left handers in a row, plus we still have Freeman and Nate.

RC,

Good point about Chipper’s lack of speed. And I would hate for him to pull a muscle running the bases.

That being said, I’m not sure where else we can put him in the lineup…

abwright

October 19th, 2010
1:23 pm

Did anyone really think that Melky was going to be offered arbitration? His 2011 salary under the current CBA rules would be so far above his value as to be inconceivable.

With McLouth as your current 4th OF at a gazillion bucks, would you really want two of ‘em?

Melky was fine as a fourth OF. Just overpaid. Alas, he was made a starter in 2010. I’m sure he’ll sign a contract somewhere, just for less than he made in 2010.

P-Town Brave ©

October 19th, 2010
1:23 pm

One thing that was big for me that I noticed last night, the announcers said that the Rangers were the best team during the season on going from 1st to 3rd on singles…

Granted that takes some speed, BUT it also takes good baserunning teaching…so maybe we can get better at this next season, as it has greatly helped Texas in generating more runs.

Not a Hall of Fame w/out Dale Murphy

October 19th, 2010
1:25 pm

Dave that story at Baseball America about Heyward, did they ask you to write a story about him and Posney after making their vote? Did you have a vote in it?

abwright

October 19th, 2010
1:26 pm

What’s up with Ankiel? Is he already a FA?

With Heyward and McLouth the only guaranteed returnees, I wonder if FW will roll the dice and cut ties with Ankiel and Diaz as well.

abwright

October 19th, 2010
1:28 pm

Part of the Braves problems with 1st to 3rd had to do with their only hitters who could get on base (not named Heyward) were, as one blogger so eloquently described, “tractor trailers.”

The guys with speed (McLouth, Ankiel, etc) were never on base to go 1st to 3rd.

DAP

October 19th, 2010
1:30 pm

abwright What’s up with Ankiel? Is he already a FA?

he has an option that has to be declined.

McFann O O – 6

October 19th, 2010
1:30 pm

P-Town Brave

Oh yeah, I knew you were just playin’…heck, I don’t wanna hafta listen to me complain about him batting fourth for a whole nother year again, either! :P

That lineup you posted looks pretty good…Yeah, I hope McLouth does way better next year…that was weird…

RC

October 19th, 2010
1:32 pm

abwright,

Ankiel’s option is for $6 million next year I think. No way will they pay that kind of money to keep him around.

Gary O,

I agree that I’d prefer to have Kemp than Rasmus. I’m a little concerned about either of them in the #4 slot in the lineup though…neither has really filled that role before. Both are more 2-3 or 5-6 hole hitters, in that they have good speed and some power, but not enough power to make them an everyday #4 hitter. I would actually expect that McCann continues to hit 4th if either of them is acquired.

bravesgrl4life

October 19th, 2010
1:48 pm

Did is slow seriously down on here or did we all switch to another blog?

ncscoots

October 19th, 2010
1:48 pm

I agree that I’d prefer to have Kemp than Rasmus. I’m a little concerned about either of them in the #4 slot in the lineup though…neither has really filled that role before.

Not likely that the team will be able to pick up a bona-fide, veteran cleanup hitter, though, is it? If there is some younger guy who meets the specs, I don’t think having never hit there much is a big deal.

Whoever it is will be bookended by some version of Heyward/McCann/Freeman/Chipper, so it’s not as if the guy hitting 4 is going to be on an island there.

David O'Brien

October 19th, 2010
1:49 pm

O.J.: Saito wasn’t a free agent — he only has five years’ service. Braves just listed him as pending free agent because his contract stipulated he be released after season, which effectively made him a free agent. His contracts called for same thing previously with Dodgers and Red Sox, that he be made a free agent at end of deal.

Well Maybe

October 19th, 2010
1:49 pm

Anyone think its funny that Frenchy may be the first baby Brave with a world series ring. Some time championship rings are just good luck. Chuck Nevitt has the most NBA rings of any NC State basketball player and his nick name was the human victory cigar. David Thompson has none.

Lactose Intolerant

October 19th, 2010
1:52 pm

I’ve watched a lot of Braves baseball… A lot.

I can’t remember a player who made as little solid contact as Melky Cabrera. Opposite field choppers, pop-ups, cans of corn. It seems like there was virtually no driving of the ball or swinging with authority.

I appreciate the exuberance he showed during walkoffs. But the lack of plate discipline and grinding at-bats won’t be missed. I agree with earlier posters that earning a raise from 3.1MM after a season like Cabrera had is mind-boggling.

But… It is what it is.

David O'Brien

October 19th, 2010
1:53 pm

Nova Scotia: Agreed on amounts, etc. But it really doesn’t matter in terms of what Braves have to spend, due to arb salary raises, raises for McCann and McLouth, etc. What matters is what was covered in the blog above, about the money that’s committed to those players and how much that leaves under what’s expected to be a $90-93 mill payroll, though Braves won’t give us any specifics about that or anything else financial, including insurance amounts, etc.

CB

October 19th, 2010
1:55 pm

I would love to see the Braves pick up Luke Scott,not a cleanup guy but a good solid veteran.He would platoon well with Diaz if Diaz is brought back. Also can play 1st when necessary. We can set our goals higher but may not be realistic with our budget constraints.

Gary O

October 19th, 2010
1:57 pm

RC,

Kemp has more power than Brian though. If Kemp was acquired (long shot, I know), how do you feel about this order?

Kemp, Heyward, then Brian for 3-5

P-Town Brave ©

October 19th, 2010
2:00 pm

RC-

Yeah, I would say both are better suited for those slots, but I think Kemp on this team is a 4 hole hitter as he can move Heyward around and in with XBH or HR, and when he gets on, he can steal bases in front of BMac…

So not your typical 4 hole hitter, but would fit perfectly on this team.

BravePack

October 19th, 2010
2:05 pm

Great start to the offseason by already getting rid of dead weight and announcing it. When can trades be made? Do they have to wait until the Series is over? Go get Rasmus Wren.

O.J.

October 19th, 2010
2:05 pm

I would be happy if the Braves somehow acquire Nelson Cruz from the Rangers.

O.J.

October 19th, 2010
2:07 pm

And I strongly believe Nelson will be the caliber type of player Braves might get. Dont look for a Crawford, Werth, Braun or signing or trade of that sort of player. It wont happen unless Braves give up a ton of pitching or spend a ton of money on free agency.

David O'Brien

October 19th, 2010
2:08 pm

When can trades be made? Do they have to wait until the Series is over? Go get Rasmus Wren. — BravePack

Sounds like a cool name for a band, Rasmus Wren.

Pameeee

October 19th, 2010
2:11 pm

Okay, so you know why these young guys are called rookies. Freddie knows he is to the starting first baseman for the 2011 season and he dives into the base and injures his thumb. Shouldn’t these players have a duty of responsibility for their livelihoods to be cautious at all times to protect themselves.

raleighbravefan

October 19th, 2010
2:11 pm

Murph – Strongly disagree about Chipper. He has earned and deserves every penny he earns. If you amortize what he has been paid over his career, the Braves are way ahead. He could have made a lot more by becoming a free agent, and restructured his contract at least twice to help the Braves. He also moved to LF to help out the team, to the detriment of his career.
Don’t forget that he had just won a batting title when his contract was renewed. He has been tremendously valuable as a mentor (just like Wagner, who everyone has raved about) in the developement of the young guys, and attitude in the clubhouse.
What you are saying is that players make so much anyway, it doesn’t matter that he has been underpaid for years, and now should not receive any consideration for what he has done for this organization.

I do agree with you about the trade. Melky is the minor player in that trade, and the ability to sign Hudson is a vastly overlooked aspect, as well. Boone Logan is looking good right now, but pitching is what we had an excess of, and still do. Every day, many posters are calling for trading away more prospects, some of whom have the potential to much greater than Logan.

O.J.

October 19th, 2010
2:14 pm

Pameeee, you cant protect yourself when you play the game the right way, and thats with a lot of hustle.

O.J.

October 19th, 2010
2:16 pm

Braves should interview either Brian McCann’s dad or Chipper’s dad for the hitting coaches job.

McFann O O – 6

October 19th, 2010
2:16 pm

RC I would actually expect that McCann continues to hit 4th if either of them is acquired.

AAAAAAAAHG! NOOOOOOOO!!

Travis

October 19th, 2010
2:16 pm

If the Braves had unlimited payroll like the Yankess, having Chipoer around as a veteran influence and “the franchise icon” would be great. If you look at a team with a payroll that doesn’t make them competetive within their division then his 13 ml contract is a burden. Wouldn’t it be great to have all the players we loved over all those years sitting in the dugout with big smiles on their faces and laughing and joking. I still crack up at Chipper laughing his a– off when Mac hit the belly flop triple. Another good example is Mattie Diaz. This kid is the ultimate team player. He busts his butt every day but if he doesn’t fit into the salary that will be left over for him, he’s gone.

BravePack

October 19th, 2010
2:18 pm

So do I get credit for the band name DOB or you?

Nova Scotia Steve

October 19th, 2010
2:20 pm

DOB – Read you loud and clear. I did read your breakdown on the Braves finances heading into 2011. Good stuff.

Just to add on to that – with committed salaries etc – NOT very encouraged for what lies ahead for Braves Country in 2011. But I’m also of the mind that Freddie Freeman is not an every-day MLB first baseman – YET – but what do I know. He needs to get a crack at it sometime.

And it’s October. I’ve never doubted Wren but your story with the GM about the Braves “needing to get creative” has been a web weaved all too many times over the past few years.

Disappointing to say the least. But alas I’ll wait to see how we’re looking by the end of the winter meetings! :D

Travis

October 19th, 2010
2:27 pm

When the argument that high payroll down’t always mean pennants surfaces each year, I think about the Rays. It took this team a long time to be competitive. All those first round draft picks matured and payroll crept up as they went through arbitration and then their gone. Just like now. The Rays have to slash payroll and the Yankess are still there every year because becasue of the deep pockets. Don’t tell me that a salary cap isn’t warranted in MLB if you want every team to have a chance at postseason. Just look at the numbers.

faninva

October 19th, 2010
2:27 pm

sorry if this has been covered. are the braves going to mark the 2010 wildcard with a banner next to the 2005 pennant banner at the Ted? not sure how i would feel about that.

abwright

October 19th, 2010
2:30 pm

RC and DAP … thanks for the info on “Ankles” The guy played a good CF and made some excellent throws to get some outs. Plus, he hit the HR that gave the Braves their play-off win. But, at $6M? screw that!

Murph

October 19th, 2010
2:36 pm

Chipper Jones:

$14662.54 per plate appearance
$56848.25 per hit
$324660.86 per homerun
$94937.71 per RBI

Again, I don’t think the Braves owe Chipper a thing. And I’m not saying I don’t like him, I’m not saying that at all. My signed Chipper baseball sits on the shelf right next to my John Smoltz signed ball and under my Hank Aaron jersey. I think Chipper is great. I just don’t think that, if he’s not the best player for the job, that the Braves should feel obligated to send him out onto the field. He’s done very well for himself, he’s done very well for the Braves, and I hope he comes back and full strength and plays in over 120 games next year.

abwright

October 19th, 2010
2:40 pm

I’m not sure why the Braves even need to make a move this offseason. Didn’t Robert or .Don say that replacing Cox would be good for 10-12 wins and that Cox was the reason for the Braves playoff futility? If so, Braves are good for 101-103 wins next season and a deep run into the playoffs.

TnBrian

October 19th, 2010
2:40 pm

I know Diaz is a fan favorite and heck, I love the guy, but it’s time to let him go on. You can’t depend on him at this point, even against lefties. We all know he’s an awful OF and his hitting took a huge nosedive this year. Can’t afford to have anymore black holes in our lineup like that.

Melky is already gone, next should be Diaz, Ankiel, and Farnsworth. I hope badly that Nate can be dealt somewhere, but very doubtful for obvious reasons.

abwright

October 19th, 2010
2:42 pm

Gary O

October 19th, 2010
2:44 pm

CB,

Isn’t Luke Scott better suited to DH? Plus he only hit .228 on the road.

O.J.,

Last year might have been the time to get Nelson Cruz, and DOB and others even mentioned his name on the blogs. But his stock has risen to the point where I would be very surprised if the Rangers trade him.

But I would take him in a Texas minute. And I think the package to get him would be less than the package needed for Rasmus and Kemp.

TnBrian

October 19th, 2010
2:45 pm

My take on a player like Cruz who I believe is signed pretty cheap for a few more years and as productive as he is, I’m thinking a trade for him would have to start with that Teheran kid. I’ll bet you anything they wouldn’t take any less than him and someone like Infante who came off a real good season.

Sh**, we aren’t getting a guy like that because Wren isn’t stupid enough to load Texas’ farm with anymore of our good prospects.

Efrim

October 19th, 2010
2:51 pm

My take on a player like Cruz who I believe is signed pretty cheap for a few more years and as productive as he is, I’m thinking a trade for him would have to start with that Teheran kid

I like Cruz, but there is no way I am trading Teheran for him.

TnBrian

October 19th, 2010
2:52 pm

DOB, don’t you see McLouth staying like me and others do? Really, who in their right mind would take him and that money he’s owed without Atlanta paying half or more of it while probably throwing in a good one of their prospects in the deal? Even I know the Braves won’t do that in a million years.

McFann O O – 6

October 19th, 2010
2:55 pm

Travis I still crack up at Chipper laughing his b– off when Mac hit the belly flop triple.

:lol: I wanna see that again…haven’t seen it in what—2 years? Anybody know where I cann find a video of it (thanks for nothing, “Official Site”)?

TnBrian

October 19th, 2010
2:57 pm

I hate sounding negative. I just choose to look at the “negatives” going into the teams offseason instead of getting my hopes up on getting this or that player. That way I don’t feel as disappointed when/if they come up empty when that time comes.

I’m excited about what could happen, just cautious in my thinking. I’ve learned a few things the last few years.

McFann O O – 6

October 19th, 2010
2:58 pm

DOB Sounds like a cool name for a band, Rasmus Wren.

Hahahaha! Hey, there is such a bird as the “Rock Wren”.

McFann O O – 6

October 19th, 2010
2:59 pm

TnBrian I’m excited about what could happen, just cautious in my thinking. I’ve learned a few things the last few years.

Ha! Me, too… :roll:

TnBrian

October 19th, 2010
3:06 pm

Who started that Nelson Cruz thing? Somehow I remember Coach starting it a few years back, but not sure. It’s gotten out of hand the last few winters and it’s starting up this year too.

They’re not trading him. Why would they? Would you trade him if you’re the Rangers? No for so many reasons.

Gotta a funny feeling Matt Kemp will be our CF come April. Just makes too much sense. Jurrjens will be in LA and unfortunately, we’ll be stuck with Kemp’s attitude. Hopefully though he can cool that garbage off in Atlanta and produce.

RHR

October 19th, 2010
3:08 pm

A year? I’ll say it today.

Maybe we should bring Melky back. Can’t be any worse than NATE!

David O'Brien

October 19th, 2010
3:10 pm

TnBrian: Yes, if I had to guess right now, I’d say McLouth is staying. And Braves sound like they think he’ll be here.

David O'Brien

October 19th, 2010
3:13 pm

I’m not sure why the Braves even need to make a move this offseason. Didn’t Robert or .Don say that replacing Cox would be good for 10-12 wins and that Cox was the reason for the Braves playoff futility? If so, Braves are good for 101-103 wins next season and a deep run into the playoffs. — abwright

Very good point. Maybe one of those guys can let us know if the Braves should stand pat and pencil in 101 wins and at least a spot in the NLCS.

TnBrian

October 19th, 2010
3:14 pm

DOB, thanks for the response.

NEW CARS

October 19th, 2010
3:15 pm

DOB,
If we could get Colby Rasmus and switch brother to a position player and bat them back-to-back in order then you could have your own little “Suite Life on Deck”

David O'Brien

October 19th, 2010
3:15 pm

Again, I don’t think the Braves owe Chipper a thing. — Murph

Actually, that’s not open for debate. They owe him $28 mill under his current contract, including $13 mill per season and prorated portions of his $3 mill signing bonus, which was divided into $1 mill payments paid over three years.

That’s what they owe him, provided he doesn’t retire.

TennesseePaul

October 19th, 2010
3:18 pm

On Melky being released. Thank you, Frank.

Second. For all the injuries this season Melky staying “healthy” was probably the most egregious event.

TnBrian

October 19th, 2010
3:19 pm

I was never a huge Bobby Cox fan, but the bashing he gets from some is rediculous. The man played what he had and what he had was hurt stars and a few IF that suddenly got the butterfingers. If people want to talk about the last part of this season, that’s what happend, and Cox was nowhere at fault there.

raleighbravefan

October 19th, 2010
3:21 pm

Murph – I understand your feelings about Chipper, I just disagree. It seems by your logic, that Chipper should send the Braves a bill for those years that he was UNDERpaid.

Gary O

October 19th, 2010
3:26 pm

TnBrian,

Do you think Dodgers will take a pitcher like JJ coming off an injury?
If they do, I assume we would have to throw in 1 or 2 good prospects.

The bad thing is, when the Nate trade was made, some people (me included) were excited that we would have him for two and a half seasons.

And here we are, wishing we could get rid of him. But then again, at the time, BMac said Nate was a five tool player :smie:

NEW CARS

October 19th, 2010
3:28 pm

Do you reckon that with all the problems that McCann and McClouth had with their vision over the past year, that maybe their prescriptions were swapped. I mean McCann and McLouth would be real close in a doctor’s filing cabinet!

nolie

October 19th, 2010
3:30 pm

cott Rolen has never gotten along with any manager. Ask Larry Bowa LEW

:lol: Larry is a poor choice, he’s a bigger dick than Tony is. Neither one of them have enough people skills to talk about

Efrim

October 19th, 2010
3:31 pm

Braves left fielders the last three seasons:

2010: .242/.302/.385

2009: .270/.320/.405

2008: .258/.330/.352

I wish that were a joke. It isn’t though.

Soph

October 19th, 2010
3:31 pm

Hi McFann. For you -

http://braveslove.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.html

Scroll down to 4/24/08 and click on the second video. :-)

Soph

October 19th, 2010
3:33 pm

Hillbilly

October 19th, 2010
3:33 pm

The bad thing is, when the Nate trade was made, some people (me included) were excited that we would have him for two and a half seasons.

And here we are, wishing we could get rid of him. But then again, at the time, BMac said Nate was a five tool player.

The Pirates lit candles….

in the clubhouse……….

for this dude………….

David O'Brien

October 19th, 2010
3:34 pm

Freeman’s supposed to get X-rays about a half-hour from now.

Hillbilly

October 19th, 2010
3:36 pm

Is he a 5-tool or just a tool?

He’s probably a good dude…just easy to pick on.

Hillbilly

October 19th, 2010
3:41 pm

The bad thing is, when the Nate trade was made, some people (me included) were excited that we would have him for two and a half seasons.

I was one of those people, too. But I was also one of the people who thought we gave up a good chunk of talent to get him. That’s why they pay me the big bucks. :)

abwright

October 19th, 2010
3:43 pm

Efrim’s pitiful LF stats should give us all pause to reflect.

Outside of Glaus’s amazing May, what offensive production are the Braves needing to replace? LF, CF, and 1B (for April, 1/2 June, July, August) were total black holes. Yet, the Braves won 91 games.

If the Braves could get a legitimate banger, they would be in very good position. But, if they only put in league average numbers in CF, LF, and 1B, they’ll be better offensively than they were in 2010 (May excepted). BTW, I’m assuming Nate is the 4th OF in the above equation.

What blows my mind is that there are so many .240/.300/.350 players available to put in the Braves OF.

A veteran bullpen arm, a back up 2B, a decent CF, a decent LF, and the Braves should be better in 2011 than in 2010. Catch lightening in the bottle with CF or LF, and you have a very good team.

abwright

October 19th, 2010
3:45 pm

Someone needs to tell Freeman that he doesn’t need to do everything that his buddy Heyward does. J-Hey jams his thumb sliding into a base, Freeman jams his thumb sliding into a base, …

Just copy the good things, eh?

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