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glord1

October 18th, 2010
10:34 pm

Anyone thinking Chipper is headed for a big bounce back at 39 is probably kidding themselves. The last two years he has averaged 14 hr 58 rbi and hit .265. He has gotten 500 ABs once in 7 years. He has not driven in 80 for over 3 years.

If he goes 15 HR 70 RBI and hits .280 I would be thrilled. Not alot of bang for the buck when paying 14 mil.

Looking Forward to Freddies (both of them)

October 18th, 2010
10:34 pm

oh and by the way 1,000!!!!! (o.k. I am done.)

nolie

October 18th, 2010
10:35 pm

Hart had a pretty good year in ‘10, but the two years b4 that were 750 years. not sure what you are gonna get with him, but he is probably on that second tier that our new OFer is likely to come from unfortunately.
and yes I’d like very much to be wrong about that ;)

McFann O O – 6

October 18th, 2010
10:36 pm

richbrave My grandson broke his left wrist sliding into second this weekend.

Yikes…sorry to read that! Hope it heels well…

nolie

October 18th, 2010
10:36 pm

his OBP will likely be his biggest asset

Jeff R

October 18th, 2010
10:37 pm

Why is Freeman playing in the fall league? He didn’t get enough playing time at Gwinnett? Freeman’s got something to prove? I don’t get whyFreeman is there.

Also, the on/off Chipper discussion. My gut is that Chipper goes to spring training to give his knee a test, see how his body is responding overall. I think Chipper’s going to find that he doesn’t have the mobility to play third any longer. I’m guessing he’ll retire then.

nolie

October 18th, 2010
10:37 pm

sorry to read that! Hope it heels well…

it was his wrist not his heel ;)

nolie

October 18th, 2010
10:38 pm

maybe Jeff, but I’m guessing he won’t.

richbrave

October 18th, 2010
10:38 pm

FREEMAN went 1-1 (3B) evidently before being injured in his fifth AFL game raising his average to .125 (2-16). Both hits have been extra-basers.

CORY HARRILCHAK has not been in another game yet.

TYLER PASTORNICKY no longer listed on the MLB ARIZONA FALL LEAGUE stats list.

None of the pitchers made appearances yesterday.

P'cola Brave

October 18th, 2010
10:38 pm

Looking Forward

Didn’t Corey Hart just sign an extension w/ the Brewers? I thought he did about mid season and if thats the case he isn’t going anywhere this off season.

Looking Forward to Freddies (both of them)

October 18th, 2010
10:39 pm

Thanks for the input nolie. That puts things very much in perspective.

My other recommendation would be Aramis Ramirez. The guy was a beast last year for the struggling Cubbies.

Looking Forward to Freddies (both of them)

October 18th, 2010
10:41 pm

Enter your comments here

Playoffs!!!!

October 18th, 2010
10:41 pm

When are players going to learn how dangerous it is to slide head first. So many injuries that way, and you don’t get there faster.
Oh yeah, and why the eagerness to have Matt Diaz come back next year> he has a lower OBP than Melky Cabera. I’m tired of his wild swings at balls a foot out of the strike zone

P'cola Brave

October 18th, 2010
10:42 pm

Just looked it up. Seems like Hart is under contract through 2013. Heres the break down

‘11 6.5
‘12 9.0
‘13 10.0

I think he’d be a great fit but its unrealistic hes available. It would take a large package to move him. I wouldn’t mind moving one of the top young pitchers plus Schafer and some others to get him but I wouldn’t empty the farm for him.

TJ

October 18th, 2010
10:45 pm

P’cola Brave. You are correct. Hart signed 3 yr extension with the Brewers in August. 3yr $26.5M deal and your numbers are correct. No “no trade” clause though, but for that price I’m not sure the Braves will be interested.

P'cola Brave

October 18th, 2010
10:45 pm

nolie

Hart’s ‘08 wasn’t terrible but it wasn’t great by no means either. He still accounted for 20 HR and over 90 RBI. Sadly we didn’t have any of that this year and would be great to have. I agree hes one of those second tier guys we’ll probably end up with but hes probably towards the top of that second tier list.

McFann O O – 6

October 18th, 2010
10:45 pm

nolie it was his wrist not his heel

Yeah, well…that, too! :mrgreen:

You piece of work, you! ;)

Braves Fan Since "80

October 18th, 2010
10:45 pm

Those head first slides……….

I am hopeful the Braves will add some speed and decent power even if it means we lose Matt Diaz…… I do not think he deserves an increase in salary……. I like he and Hinskie as Pinch hitters….not sure how Freddie is going to manage the team…… Like to see us at least get some potential in the outfield for july to september…. Our Triple AAA and Double AA are not great in position players

Looking Forward to Freddies (both of them)

October 18th, 2010
10:47 pm

Right there with you P’cola. Maybe we move Dunn + Schafer. They might have to eat some salary in return given that both the above mentioned are young pre-contract players…or?

keylargo

October 18th, 2010
10:47 pm

TYLER PASTORNICKY no longer listed on the MLB ARIZONA FALL LEAGUE stats list.

This says Pastornicky is still active.

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&t=t_ros&cid=454

nolie

October 18th, 2010
10:47 pm

Ramirez hits better at home the last few years than in bigger parks. He hit 201 this year. He could be a nice fall back if Chipper fails but I think he has a pretty steep contract for that situation.. I still would have no problem with them getting Betemit back if he was cheap, strictly as a backup . I think he can play at third,first and LF IIRC. He has been erratic over the years but had an excellent year in ‘10. would depend on what he cost.

richbrave

October 18th, 2010
10:49 pm

THANX McFANN;

Preliminary x-rays appear to show a “green” break or crack in the growth plate. Shouldn’t be anything like the broken leg where the patella tendon was completely torn from the tibia (seven pieces). He broke the same bone at 11 skate boarding lower down near the ankle. Second breaks on the same leg are pretty unforgiving even for a youngster. Just ask BILLY WAGNER. Fortunately for all of us, it was WAGS arm not his leg.

Don’t see that lateral quickness TYLER used to exhibit. But CF suits him. He did catch the eye of an ANGELS scout though. So I guess some good may come out of it.

Braves Fan Since "80

October 18th, 2010
10:50 pm

Also, the on/off Chipper discussion. My gut is that Chipper goes to spring training to give his knee a test, see how his body is responding overall. I think Chipper’s going to find that he doesn’t have the mobility to play third any longer. I’m guessing he’ll retire then.

=========
So your gut tells you Chipper will leave the Braves in the same position as this year!

TJ

October 18th, 2010
10:51 pm

Looking Forward….. You do know that it’s two different spellings of the name for our guys, right? I mean it’s FREDDIE Freeman and FREDI Gonzalez… I’m just askin’…..

Jeff R

October 18th, 2010
10:52 pm

nolie… Just making a wild guess about Chipper. But knees are really tricky, and pretty fragile, once they’ve been injured. A lot of ongoping pain, judging from friends who have had knee problems.

I certainly don’t think Chipper’ll walk unless managament settles nicely with him.

McFann O O – 6

October 18th, 2010
10:54 pm

richbrave

Dang…

He did catch the eye of an ANGELS scout though. So I guess some good may come out of it.

Hey, cool!!

richbrave

October 18th, 2010
10:55 pm

keylargo

October 18th, 2010
10:47 pm
TYLER PASTORNICKY no longer listed on the MLB ARIZONA FALL LEAGUE stats list.

This says Pastornicky is still active.

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&t=t_ros&cid=454

Yeah KL:

On that page go to the bar that says stats and click on, then click on batting leaders. I noticed some of the other BRAVES players were listed then weren’t. Maybe he needs 10 AB’s to get back on or something. He has nine last I saw.

Jeff R

October 18th, 2010
10:56 pm

Braves Fan Since “80… Frankly, I’d rather Chipper have the good sense to work out a deal with Wren early this post season and retire. I think Wren needs and deserves the time to figure out the third base situation.

But I think Chipper’s determined to try out his knee in spring training and go from there.

Playoffs!!!!

October 18th, 2010
10:58 pm

The answer to our outfield problems is Matt Kemp–plain and simple.
I think he would enjoy playing in Atlanta. I don’t know if he’s one year away from free agency or two.
The Dodgers could use a pitcher they could plug in the rotation now. I could see us giving them Beachy or Minor–packaged with Infante and a prospect.

Looking Forward to Freddies (both of them)

October 18th, 2010
10:58 pm

TJ,

YES, I know, that is why it is “Freddies”….as in the plural. Otherwise the blogname would just be too long.

I am looking forward to the managing era of Fredi (Gonzalez) and the playing career of Freddie (Freeman). I live in Atlanta, but am not an idiot….and yes I do go to at least several games a season. I should go to more, but I am just starting my own practice and do not have much time or money at the moment. I watch almost every single game though, and I do follow their farm system.

nolie

October 18th, 2010
10:58 pm

I certainly don’t think Chipper’ll walk unless managament settles nicely with him.

now see I don’t see that as much of a determining factor at all, not that they wouldn’t work a deal but if he feels done I doubt he holds them up. For a HOFer who has done as much for the team as Chipper has done with contracts and changing positions there sure are a lot of Jones haters around here. Not saying that you are, but ol’ BFS80 sure sounds more disgruntled that Chipper’s career would lead most to be. :roll:

tiger297

October 18th, 2010
11:01 pm

little insurance wouldn’t hurt here folks

Playoffs!!!!

October 18th, 2010
11:02 pm

Chipper’s not going to retire now and leave $26 million on the table. Would you?

richbrave

October 18th, 2010
11:02 pm

McFANN:

He’s gonna’ play basket-ball this season too. Keep your fingers crossed. He’s pretty small at 6′1+ 175-180, small forward. But you can get away with that in high school. Loves to rebound. He’s a pretty tough customer on the boards and around the basket. Outside shot like ATTILA THE HUN. No long-range touch at all. Not enough practice.

David O'Brien

October 18th, 2010
11:02 pm

richbrave

October 18th, 2010
11:03 pm

Playoffs!!!!

October 18th, 2010
11:02 pm
Chipper’s not going to retire now and leave $26 million on the table. Would you?

No……….Hell no!!!!!!!

nolie

October 18th, 2010
11:04 pm

You piece of work, you! McFann

no doubt ;)

Jeff R

October 18th, 2010
11:05 pm

nolie… I’m actually not a Chipper hater. Chipper can’t help his being so injury prone since 2004. It is what it is.

Yes, Chipper has done a lot for the Braves. No denying that. But I do think he’s hanging on too long. But a lot of vets do, so Chipper’s not a rarity.

As far as working out a deal with Wren, well, I’m not being cynical, and I’m not suggesting Chipper is cynical. But, hey, it’s only common sense for Chipper to want some consideration if he stands down from a lucrative contract. And I don’t blame him. He should be adequately compensated if he opts to forego the balance of his contract.

nolie

October 18th, 2010
11:05 pm

yup, don’t matter how well of you are 26 mil is a whole lotta nickels and dimes

nolie

October 18th, 2010
11:06 pm

yeah I wasn’t saying that you are Jeff, just that there are more than I can understand myself

Looking Forward to Freddies (both of them)

October 18th, 2010
11:08 pm

I am not one of those Chipper haters. I feel blessed to have had the chance to see Chipper. He is first ballot HOF ala Mickey Mantle. He is almost 40 and is still contributing. I think Chip has earned his contract…however, I think that, even better, he will retire when he knows can’t play productively anymore.

I for one would not mind seeing him become 3B/Hitting coach, but maybe I am alone in that thought….

glord1

October 18th, 2010
11:08 pm

An interesting stat. Obviously everyone know the Braves lack power. Here is where the Braves rank if you add the RBI totals of their top three run producers and compare them to the rest of the NL. The top three producers were Glaus, McCann and Heyward. They totaled 220 RBI. That ranked them as them 14th of the NLs murderers rows ahead of only Pittsburgh and San Diego. The top run producers were the Brewers with 309 RBI (Hart, Fielder and Braun).

Interesting useless fact of the day.

Jeff R

October 18th, 2010
11:10 pm

Nolie, didn’t really think you thought I was anti-Chipper. Just don’t think Chipper is going to be much of a positive factor at third or in the batting order any longer. Now, if Chipper decides to play in 2011, I hope he proves me wrong. The Braves need plenty of production out of third and solid defense wouldn’t hurt.

D.J.

October 18th, 2010
11:12 pm

haha, Yankees imploding.

Playoffs!!!!

October 18th, 2010
11:14 pm

What I could see happening is Chipper retiring after next season if he has a bad year, and then negotiating a settlement on the last year of his contract where he gets paid half of his final $13 mill

McFann O O – 6

October 18th, 2010
11:14 pm

Richbrave

Hope he does well—Good luck to him!

nolie

:P

UKUGA

October 18th, 2010
11:18 pm

The key to the Rangers’ 9th inning explosion?

Pinch-hitting for Francoeur.

Looking Forward to Freddies (both of them)

October 18th, 2010
11:20 pm

What do you guys and gals think of the Dunn + Schafer for Cory Hart deal? Is it feasible or recommendable?

Playoffs!!!!

October 18th, 2010
11:23 pm

Dunn and Shafer for Cory Hart. Who the hell wants Jordan Shafer??

Looking Forward to Freddies (both of them)

October 18th, 2010
11:28 pm

Center piece is Dunn, the addition of Schafer is a wilder card with a potential upside gamble at the same position

keylargo

October 18th, 2010
11:31 pm

I would bet that if Chipper walked away, insurance would have to negotiate a settlement with him, not the Braves.

Doc Holiday

October 18th, 2010
11:32 pm

Man, baseball can be sweet sometimes.

Watching the phillies and yankees go for a combined 2-3 record is priceless….

I think Yankees might not be down but they are in some deep hole. They will have to beat CJ wilson and Lee in order to win this series…………..and They have both dominated them.

I dont see that happening.

Phillies on the other hand. have lost home field advantage. Things might get interesting tomorrow.

keylargo

October 18th, 2010
11:32 pm

I mean that the insurance company would have to settle with the Braves, while the Braves would still have to pay CJ since he was hurt while playing.

Moe Berg

October 18th, 2010
11:35 pm

“Dunn and Shafer for Cory Hart. Who the hell wants Jordan Shafer??”

Roman Gal?

Playoffs!!!!

October 18th, 2010
11:36 pm

The Yankees don’t have to beat Cliff Lee to win the series, as long as the win all the other games now.

Jeff "The Natural" Francoeur

October 18th, 2010
11:39 pm

I just texted to Mac- “How’s that view from the couch treating you”

Oh, and chicks guys with beards playing meaningful Fall ball!

Jeff "The Natural" Francoeur

October 18th, 2010
11:41 pm

I meant chicks dig guys wih beards playing Fall ball. But, who cares what you guys think because I’m on a championship team baby!

nolie

October 18th, 2010
11:44 pm

I don’t think so KL, insurance isn’t gonna cover retirement. He would have to prove he was physically unable to play I would think, and I would be surprised at that approach. Who knows for sure though?

P'cola Brave

October 18th, 2010
11:45 pm

Looking Forward

Dunn and Schafer won’t be enough to get Hart. Its going to take someone special to pry Hart from the Brewers especially with him under contract.

You may be able to go with something like: Beachy, Vizcaino, and Schafer for Hart.

That may not even satisfy them.

Brian "a steady job" Mcann

October 18th, 2010
11:45 pm

Jeff–Only until they non-tender you next year.

P'cola Brave

October 18th, 2010
11:46 pm

Frenchy, now theres a RH bat for our OF.

P'cola Brave

October 18th, 2010
11:47 pm

Frenchy, Nate, and Melky roaming the Ted. Theres offensive production. There averages together may not even eclipse Omars or Prados.

nolie

October 18th, 2010
11:47 pm

Schafer has no value at all to any other team at this point.

ATL_Bama

October 18th, 2010
11:48 pm

Great blog Dave. Here are five thoughts:

1) Why don’t the Braves try Heyward in CF? He sure seems to have the range for it and a good arm too. Corner OFs are easier to come by than CFs. Sure seems like putting Heyward in CF would make it easier to improve the pop.

2) Venters, Dunn, and OFlarety in the pen gives you a position of strength to deal from.

3) I would hate to see Infante traded because he is not only a good player, but a great insurance policy. He can play LF, 2B, SS, and 3B at a solid level.

4) Braves need to leave Prado at 2B. While his flexibility is valuable, it shouldn’t be abused. To do that they’ll need to bring in a quality backup 3B. Look for a guy they can use to spell Chipper but that they’d be comfortable running out there every day if Chipper didn’t make it back.

5) Could Lowe’s great performances down the stretch and when it counted in the playoffs make him a tradeable asset? Freeing up the bulk of his salary could let the braves do alot more in the offseason.

Looking Forward to Freddies (both of them)

October 18th, 2010
11:48 pm

How about Vizcaino, Dunn, and Schafer – basically the Javier Vazquez – trade for Hart. That sounds fair…does it not

nolie

October 18th, 2010
11:52 pm

Vizvaino is hurt. GMs do not trade good players for hurt pitchers.

keylargo

October 18th, 2010
11:53 pm

Nolie – How could the insurance company not agree that the injury ended his career if he chooses not to play? He was the starting 3rd baseman with 2 years left on his contract when he was hurt during a game. I know from my own experience that insurance would try to get out of it, but with $28M on the line, CJ and his team of lawyers would be hard to deal with.

nolie

October 19th, 2010
12:01 am

How could the insurance company not agree that the injury ended his career if he chooses not to play?

he could choose not to play because he was no longer all that good and I’m pretty sure the insurance company would claim it was age not injury. They would for sure have their doctors give him tests and if his knee passed those tests they would likely refuse to pay. Actually insurance is really expensive now on high priced contracts, who is to know what the Braves have on him? I’m just pretty sure that if their doctors say the knee is structurally sound that it would prolly have to go to court. I’m not claiming to know for sure but I do have some experience with injuries and insurance companies. Plus I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express just last year. ;)

keylargo

October 19th, 2010
12:04 am

The more I think about it, I feel CJ would be able to draw the remaining part of his contract even if he did not play again. It all about the guaranteed contracts that MLB has and if you don’t think the Players Union would pay for an entire team of savage lawyers over this one, I think you would be wrong.

Looking Forward to Freddies (both of them)

October 19th, 2010
12:06 am

Nolie – yeah but you have to agree, when Vizcaino comes back, which is soon, he is a frighteningly good prospect. He was the best prospect in the Yankees’ system. Plus Dunn has been better than projected, I would argue. Further, good pitching is not easy to come by (only the Braves have this kind of depth). Thus Vizcaino + Dunn + Schafer is a great deal for Corey Hart…in fact it favors the Brewers but we might need to do it to fill the OF/RH hitter hole that we have. In the end though both teams come out stronger (you may note that scoring runs was not one of the Brewers weak points last season).

Looking Forward to Freddies (both of them)

October 19th, 2010
12:13 am

Plus, I may add, none of the above mentioned Braves players have big contracts, where Corey Hart does. Thus the Brewers free up contract money in order to keep Fielder, while simultaneously addind great pitching depth and at least a back-up center fielder. That is what I would argue at any rate…

nolie

October 19th, 2010
12:13 am

may be but hurt minor league pitchers are not what another GM is gonna accept. There are too many who don’t succeed anyway even with out injury. He may again be a great prospect and he certainly has value to us, but If some GM traded a Hart or Rasmus for him now and he did not come back healthy, it would be near criminal negligence and his job would be in real danger. Just extremely unlikely to happen.

Looking Forward to Freddies (both of them)

October 19th, 2010
12:22 am

Hart does not equal Rasmus. Hart has a big 3yr contract and is older. Rasmus has 4(?) years before he becomes expensive and is a fantastic young outfielder who has more than proven he is capable of MLB play. Hart has less value both financially and potential upside than does Hart. Rasmus’ only flaw is his personality/immaturity. Thus the above deal is more than fair for Hart but might not equal Rasmus.

Looking Forward to Freddies (both of them)

October 19th, 2010
12:24 am

“Hart has less value both financially and potential upside than does Hart” –

I meant Hart has less value both financially and potential upside than does Rasmus…

Moe Berg

October 19th, 2010
12:40 am

Rob Neyer is tallying up Cliff Lee’s impressive postseason stats:

So far this postseason Lee has: three wins, 24 innings, one walk, 34 strikeouts.

“In eight postseason starts — five with the Phillies last year, now three more with the Rangers — Lee’s 7-0 with a 1.26 ERA.”

“What’s difficult is putting Lee into context against everyone else. As brilliant as he’s been, it’s only eight starts and 64 innings. Andy Pettitte has now thrown 263 postseason innings. Granted, Pettitte’s 3.83 is hardly historic … but what about John Smoltz? In 209 postseason innings, Smoltz went 15-4 with a 2.67 ERA. What about Curt Schilling? In 133 innings, Schilling went 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA.”

For the full post: http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/5881/rangers-lee-claims-spot-among-greats

nolie

October 19th, 2010
12:46 am

Thus the above deal is more than fair for Hart but might not equal Rasmus.

that’s true but has nothing to do with the point I am making. cause it would never be accepted, basic CYA 101. ain’t happening for any player of any value. very unlikely that anybody would take Jj toward a good player this year too, but at least he has some proven success in the bigs. of corse you are welcome to believe anything you want ;)

Big Nick

October 19th, 2010
1:11 am

JJ,Delgado and Schafer for Matt Kemp. Sign Jeff Francis. Sign Nick Punto. Keep Farnsworth with a $3mil/1 yr deal. Sign Ty Wigginton.

Hudson
Lowe
Hanson
Minor
Francis

Kimbrel
Farnsworth
Moylan
Beachy/Marek
Venters
O’Flaherty
Dunn

Freeman
Prado
Gonzalez
Chipper
Infante
Punto
Wigginton

Heyward
Kemp
McLouth
Diaz

Mccann
Ross

Thomas

October 19th, 2010
1:28 am

D.O.B,
How many people make up the Braves Management Team? It seems to me that they are the most top heavy team in Baseball, am I correct in assuming so. I am just thinking some of that money paid to the front office could be used to help improve the team.

nolie

October 19th, 2010
1:48 am

what makes you think that Tomas?

nolie

October 19th, 2010
2:27 am

JJ,Delgado and Schafer for Matt Kemp

:lol: yeah, right. a failure, an injured pitcher and a prospect. you don’t think anybody else will be interested if he’s available?

Bobby's Cox

October 19th, 2010
3:52 am

Chipper’s ACL,

I like the Bartlett idea. Love how that guy plays. Not sure they do it for Diaz however. Tampa has Jennings to take over for Crawford, and a slew of other serviceable outfielders (Zobrist, Joyce, Hawpe, to name a few). I’d expect Zobrist to bounce back next year. He could be a good fit for the Braves, too (plays lots of positions, good OBP, led the AL in OPS a season ago).

I’m down with the other suggestions (Pence, Kemp, Rasmus), though I’m not sure how we could acquire those players or what it would cost us in return.

DAP

October 19th, 2010
6:37 am

glord He has gotten 500 ABs once in 7 years. He has not driven in 80 for over 3 years.

thats because he walks alot. he has had over 500 PA 3 of the last 4 years. would have this year, if not for a freak injury. chipper isnt our problem.

semiballcoach

October 19th, 2010
7:29 am

quit bringing up shafer in trade ideas, at this point you probably couldn’t get as many baseballs as the braves gave up for greg olson for him

David O'Brien

October 19th, 2010
7:32 am

How many people make up the Braves Management Team? It seems to me that they are the most top heavy team in Baseball, am I correct in assuming so. — Thomas

I really don’t know where you got this idea. They are structured like most other teams, who all have similar numbers of assistant GMs, special assistants, directors of this and that. Titles just vary from team to team, but all basically have the same or very similar number of high-level officials.

Rob from SC

October 19th, 2010
7:59 am

DOB

Are the Braves confident it is just a sprain or are they concerned it is serious?

richbrave

October 19th, 2010
8:04 am

Damn I hate this budget crap. Where’s TED or ART when you need him? We got to get a first rate hitter in the line-up.

Rob from SC

October 19th, 2010
8:10 am

I don’t know if this was mentioned but under MLB.com transactions page it says Saito and Melky Cabrera were released

richbrave

October 19th, 2010
8:11 am

DOWN ON THE FARM:

BRAVES had nobody pitching as the DESERT-DOGS lost 3-6 to the CACTI from wherever. FREEMAN was the only BRAVES fielder until hurt sliding into third on his triple.

O.J.

October 19th, 2010
8:22 am

I think Juan Rivera or Nelson Cruz would be good options to try and get. What do you think it would take to get them?

O.J.

October 19th, 2010
8:26 am

richbrave, shouldnt it be down in the AFL? Minor league season is over isnt it?

richbrave

October 19th, 2010
8:31 am

O.J.

October 19th, 2010
8:26 am
richbrave, shouldnt it be down in the AFL? Minor league season is over isnt it?

I thought about that, and decided they were all minors players so the title would still be apropos. But have you got any suggestions for a better one?

BTW ROB from SC said SAITO and CABRERA had been released. I couldn’t find any follow up to verify the news, but saw the same thing under MLB transactions.

DAP

October 19th, 2010
8:32 am

OJ, nelson cruz would be the perfect fit. i dont know if he is gettable though. id be very surprised if there was any chance at all they would trade him. juan rivera probably isnt the answer we are looking for.

O.J.

October 19th, 2010
8:37 am

richbrave, yeah, you are right, no need to go changing it now. Keep up the good work.

keylargo

October 19th, 2010
8:50 am

The thing that is confusing about releasing Saito and Cabrerra is that Saito has no ties to the Braves after the 2010 season is over. No option year or arbitration. Why “release” Saito and not have to do the same with, say Derek Lee? If Cabrerra was released, it was inevitable.

Jeff R

October 19th, 2010
8:59 am

I really don’t think Freeman should have been playing fall league ball. Why? The guy had a spectacular year at Gwinnett. He was league rookie of the year. So Freeman needed more playing time in Arizona? To prove what, exactly? Seems to me Freeman has a strong skill set and a solid work ethic. Seems that he earned the time off. Spring training that far off? Wren blew this call.

Space Monkey

October 19th, 2010
9:31 am

DOB:

Thanks to you an Carrol for all the great coverage this year. I know how hard it is to be a beat reporter and produce a blog every day. Truly outstanding work and I hope the AJC knows it.

How much is Cliff Lee going to make next year? Do you think he will be a Yankee? Or will the Mets or Phillies get him and make life even more difficult for the Braves? The guy is a horse.

CraZyTRaDeMaN

October 19th, 2010
9:39 am

Wren blew this call.

So did all the other GM’s who have sent players to the AFL. The AFL is a higher brand of baseball than AA and AAA. Most of the players in the AFL are top prospects. Many clubs consider the AFL the last stop before the majors for many prospects. Jason Heyward played in 2009, Tommy Hanson in 2008 and was AFL MVP the list of All-stars from the AFL is long. Every game in the AFL is like a miniature futures All-Star Game. I think it’s a great place for players to get some final AB’s against top hurlers.

raleighbravefan

October 19th, 2010
9:41 am

Jeff R – Huh?

P-Town Brave ©

October 19th, 2010
9:52 am

Hmm…

How about a McLouth/Francoeur platoon in LF :lol:

Sorry, couldn’t resist…

Me Thinks ......

October 19th, 2010
9:57 am

It’s interesting that so many want Chipper to retire, but want Crawford. Chipper has never had a season since 1996 in which his OPS+ dipped below 116. Crawford on the other hand has had only one season in his career in which his OPS+ got over 117. This past season, Crawford’s contract season, was the only season of his career in which Crawford had a higher OPS+ than Chipper. Crawford brings alot of other things with his D & speed, or at least he has, but he’s also 29 years old, and obtaining thirty somethings for the speed and D they used to have in their 20s ain’t too bright (especially when they’re merely just a little better than average with the bat).

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