Braves drop Hubbard, switch Pendleton from hitting coach

Kelly

October 13th, 2010
8:43 pm

GOOD BYE TP

Kelly

October 13th, 2010
8:43 pm

Well, at least as a hitting coach.

shawn

October 13th, 2010
8:45 pm

Pendelton was a good move..First

Saint simons

October 13th, 2010
8:45 pm

First

braves808

October 13th, 2010
8:49 pm

so i assume if melky and hinske comes back, they’ll be in tip top shape since chino cadahia (buffet coordinator before/during/after games) will be gone

Somebody

October 13th, 2010
8:50 pm

Chipper for hitting coach please!

perk

October 13th, 2010
8:54 pm

surprised at the Hubby move in the sense that no other postion was offered in the organization. Same with Cahahia–who seemd to be Cox’ right hand man. gonna miss Hubby–doesn’t seem right he is thrown out to pasture.

Reid in EAV

October 13th, 2010
8:54 pm

I guess it was just to make room for some of Fredi’s own guys, which I don’t begrudge, but man, I’m bummed to see Hubbard go. He was a Braves lifer, and had been associated with this team longer than Cox has (1977).

So really, no issues with the guys hitting the door? That’s just the way it goes, hope you find another job, we’ll put in a good word for ya wherever… that sort of thing?

Hubbard

October 13th, 2010
8:55 pm

Sad to see Glenn go. Would like to see him back in the Braves organization.
If Fredi had the Marlins doing as good as the NY Muts with a fraction of their payroll, he should do great with the salaries the Braves pay. How many weeks until catchers and pitchers report?

braves11

October 13th, 2010
8:55 pm

Why didn’t Wren just fire TP altogether? What makes him better than Hubbard? Not refuting the decision just wondering…

Kimbrel4Closer

October 13th, 2010
8:57 pm

LOL braves808

Amen, Somebody

Chillahill43

October 13th, 2010
9:01 pm

Guess hubbard was not holding the elbow pads right. Really pendelton and no hubbard. Well the first move really is so bobby. Damn. Really no hubbard but we keep tp. Really. Jeeeeezzzzus!

Joe Tess Fish House

October 13th, 2010
9:01 pm

Why is ever one upset about TP? The reel problem is the manager they hired. NEVER hire a manager with a loosing record that was just fired a few months ago.

LAG

October 13th, 2010
9:02 pm

Pendleton’s probably a more capable fielding coach or something.

I would rather he move Hubbard to 3B… but whatever. Really hope they can bring him back in some capacity.

Burgess

October 13th, 2010
9:02 pm

Wouldn’t you think there would be a job somewhere for Hubbard in the organization as a scout or a minor league manager or coach ?
Can’t help but wonder if there’s more to the story.

LAG

October 13th, 2010
9:05 pm

Joe Tess Fish House – Ask the Yankees how hiring Joe Torre prior to the ‘96 season worked for them.

Chillahill43

October 13th, 2010
9:06 pm

Tp. Has a job braves batted 175 for seotember and october. Thats the problem. TP has a job. My god. Joe tessfish house. Friggen T P has as effen job thats the efen problem. Thats it. Really the bs continues. What a effen joke!! T P has a job. ! Wow!

CSpin

October 13th, 2010
9:10 pm

Yeah I’m gonna miss Hubbard…….I wonder if he feels hurt or betrayed

Brandon

October 13th, 2010
9:18 pm

Overall I like the moves. I feel bad for Hubbard, but at least TP isn’t going to be the Hitting Coach anymore.

dick

October 13th, 2010
9:19 pm

Hubbie thanks for all you have done. It was either you or TP and if it had been TP we would have the NAACP and ACLU involved.

Brother John

October 13th, 2010
9:20 pm

Count me in on the Hubbard bandwagon. Dude did everything asked of him, for what, 23 years? I’ll give Fredi every chance in the world, but throwing Glenn under the bus is going to rile some long time fans. If he had thrown Pendleton under the bus, I would have been right there to help him!! Chipper for player/ manager-in-waiting. Two years of Fredi should be enough when Chipper retires as a player….

Dawgdad (The Original)

October 13th, 2010
9:20 pm

Read somewhere this AM that Fredi was very close to TP, which I guess means not so close with Hubbard. Cadahia seemed to be Yunel’s personal svengali, so his usefulness was greatly deminished when Yunel took his multiple personalities up north.

ace

October 13th, 2010
9:24 pm

Whoever is hitting coach (wellman?) Will be keeping the seat warm for Chipper

Gulf Coast

October 13th, 2010
9:29 pm

I am saddened to read about Hubbard; I thought it was a nice connection to a prior generation of Braves. I wish Fredi would have kept him. Besides, Hubb was a great guy with the fans, especially in spring training games!

nfieldr

October 13th, 2010
9:30 pm

I’m definitely po’ed about the Braves retaining TP and not Hubbard. So, let me get this straight… the Braves fire a guy who was a good defensive player and by most accounts a pretty good infield instructor (he’s credited with making Marcus Giles into a serviceable ML infielder) and replaced him as infield instructor with a guy who they are basically firing as hitting coach (rightfully so IMO) and who was mostly known as a hitter as a player. Does that pretty much sum it up?

Alpha9

October 13th, 2010
9:31 pm

I guess nobody realizes that Glen Hubbards job was defense and infield play..yeah his work showed very well during the NLDS

Faithful Braves Fan

October 13th, 2010
9:31 pm

I have long thought that the Braves needed a new hitting coach. Nothing against TP. He is a fierce competitor and I think he brings something to the coaching staff. Unfortunately, whenever I hear a Braves hitter turning things around, it is because he talked to Chipper. How about Chipper as a player/coach?

katiebravesfan

October 13th, 2010
9:31 pm

I like all the chances but am also saddened to see Glenn and Chino gone. I think Chino’s a great guy and will eventually be a manager somewhere else. Glenn however was in charge of the development of the players defensively and with all the errors the Braves committed and the fact that he could never fully get Kelly Johnson to come around as a second baseman…I can some what understand why Glenn may be gone.

ijudgenot

October 13th, 2010
9:33 pm

I second the thought that Hubbard should have been put on third or TP on 3rd and Hubbard at 1st.
Snitker made several blantant errors doing the season , The most memorable was sending McCann home from 1st on a double. He was out by 20 feet. He did not show that he had a feel for the players ability to run or not run the basis. Also remember Escobar and heyward running through his stop sighns and scoring easily. He must have been one of Gonzalez coaches when he was at Richmond.

SoCalBrave

October 13th, 2010
9:35 pm

I hope Hubbard was not offered a job within the organization so that he can get a better job elsewhere. I’m sure that with his experience he’ll be in demand.

P'cola Brave

October 13th, 2010
9:35 pm

Heard this name thrown around earlier for hitting coach. Jim Pressley

Dave

October 13th, 2010
9:36 pm

Yes, keep the hitting coach that no one uses because he only makes your swing worse but fire the guy who made Giles and Prado great infielders. Jesse Jackson must have threatened a march or something

Tilly

October 13th, 2010
9:36 pm

I CANNOT Believe Hubbard is gone. That’s a real disappointment. I’m like everyone else. I can’t believe that they are keeping TP around. This guy must really have the goods on someone in the organization. I didn’t like him as a Braves’ player and dislike the guy even more as a “coach”- (I use the term lightly). I’m kind of wondering what he’s done for us lately.

Younger Than That Now

October 13th, 2010
9:37 pm

It would have been nice to have seen the guys that were dismissed have been offered other options within the organization… which they may have for all we know… but I don’t think Hub will have a problem securing another position, and more than likely with the help of Bobby Cox. I met Hub when he managed at Macon years ago and he seemed to have a good rapport with the young players there… I can only wish him well. IMO, Hub was one of the best defensive second basemen ever to play in Atlanta… man he could turn a quick DP at 2nd… and used one of the smallest gloves I’ve ever seen, ala Joe Morgan (and please don’t confuse me with someone who likes Joe Morgan, otherwise known as the “all knowing, all consuming Barry Bonds spokesman”).

Even though a guy is good at some aspect of the game… hitting for Pendleton and defense for Hub… that doesn’t always translate into them being a good teacher of that aspect, in fact it could hurt them in some cases. Meaning that a guy who finds hitting an easier part of the game might have a hard time relating to a young player who has to constantly work at it a lot.

I was glad to see Roger McDowell retained… and I’ll be the first to say that his appointment as pitching coach didn’t ring well with me at the time. I just thought he was too big of a goofball as a player to be taken very seriously as a coach… he’s both fooled me and won me over.

Eddie Perez… well, he’s Eddie Perez and much loved in the clubhouse and more like a teammate than a coach, seemingly… one of the biggest jokesters on the team.

I would seriously wonder if the Braves have or even would consider Howie McCann as hitting coach… he’s had one student that translates what he’s learned in the cage very well into what he does at gametime in the box… and everyone doesn’t do that. As Schultz mentioned on another blog, coaches can coach till they’re blue in the face, but the player has to take it to the plate and swing the bat.

Glad to see Fredi as the man!!

bummed

October 13th, 2010
9:38 pm

Bad form letting Hubbard go, even worse form…it being a AJC byline. He desires more and will be missed. Shame on you Atl. Braves

Braves Fan

October 13th, 2010
9:43 pm

I like Fredi but damn don’t like kicking Hub out and keeping that #*#@ TP, is a joke. 23 years almost as many as Bobby and thanks for the loyality. Hope TP gets job elsewhere as I can’t stand him.

Greg Walker for hitting coach from white sox.

Hubbard

October 13th, 2010
9:43 pm

Maybe Glenn can catch on with Ned Yost in KC. I agree with Gulf Coast about the connection to the 80’s Braves. Those old TBS days were fun even when the Braves were out of the race in May.

bummed

October 13th, 2010
9:44 pm

deserves..Freudian?

charles

October 13th, 2010
9:50 pm

What the f##k did T. P. do to any of you to piss you off? He was a very good player when he was still playing. And he served as the first base coach when Fredi was the third base coach so it stands to reason he has a connection with him. Some of you act as if he swinging the bats for the players as they took all those good pitches and swung at the balls in the dirt no not his fault. Then this little Dick brings race into it. God bless Bobby Cox and may he live long and enjoy his retirement but a lot can be put at his feet for losing the series as for me i’m just looking forward to this fresh start with our manager.

Chief pitchanono

October 13th, 2010
9:52 pm

Too bad about Huby, he made several guys into pretty good second baseman, when the Braves needed them throughout the years. We will miss him, sounds like Pedelton got the buddy pass on this one, I would have let him go and kept Glen. I’m sure Gonzo will be a good manager for the Braves, they certainly seem to have allot of faith in him and Bobby is leaving him a pretty good team to get started with. I will be very surprised if this does not work out.

bravesfan

October 13th, 2010
9:52 pm

First of all I’ve been a Braves fan for along time and Im just sad to hear all this stuff about Terry why is the talk about must have been NAACP or other stuff involved Fredi mad his choice and respect that nobody will be complaining when the Braves win the East and make it back to the World series. Man I thought we as apeople was over this negative race stuff! In that case it could be said that why don’t the Braves have that Many African American players anymore like in the early 90″s

Younger Than That Now

October 13th, 2010
9:53 pm

Braves Fan… Greg Walker would be a good choice and he probably would be very interested since he still makes his off-season home in Douglas Georgia, where he’s from. And, he can’t feel real job security with the ChiSox with Ozzie at the helm… nothing against Ozzie, I like him and I think he does a good job… I just don’t know how long that marriage with him and the GM is gonna last. From the outside looking in, it looks like a planned train-wreck somewhere down the line.

NRBQ

October 13th, 2010
9:56 pm

Snitker has not distinguished himself at third, and is not a tired-and-true Braves Man.

Hubbard is an institution, and by all accounts, immensely popular with the players. I watched his entire career, and as most would agree, saw him give his all to the Braves.

Does it just make too much sense to put TP at third?

I wish Fredi all the luck, but this decision leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Younger Than That Now

October 13th, 2010
10:01 pm

I too don’t like the race card being thrown out in every situation these days… it just isn’t a black & white issue in most cases, and especially in this one. If you will think back TP and Fredi used to ride their scooters to the ballpark together most every day, but even with that I think that Fredi is a big enough guy and a stand-up guy and he’s not going to let things like that get into the way of doing his job… especially his new job.

It is sad to see Hub thrown to the curb after so many years in the organization… I know for a fact that the job he did at Macon was very good and not an easy situation. First of all, it’s Macon… who isn’t known for supporting any sports franchise… and secondly it’s so close to Atlanta that he had to have felt like somebody was looking over his shoulder all the time with a microscope.

He’s a good guy and he’ll do well in whatever he does, and who knows, he might be tired of the travel grind with him doing it for so long, and you’re coaching guys who are making 150 times what you’re making. Not a bad gig, and I’d love to ride that train for a while too, but the travel and being away from home and family for 7-8 months out of the year would get old.

gaknight

October 13th, 2010
10:02 pm

Good luck Freddie–you’ll need it! How the Braves made the playoffs is beyond a miracle. Basically, you had a AAA team behind a major league pitching staff. This will not be a quick fix. Threes years at least. Instead of asking what they need, ask what they don’t need. That’s pretty simple, starting pitchers, a Second baseman, Catcher and Right Fielder. They don’t even have reliable backups anywhere else. Chipper should retire; anything short of that is for the $$. He’s way over the hill. The Braves have an empty cupboard in the minors, unless that player is three years away. They have no speed, few prospects and short purse strings. Other than the fore-mentioned, everyone else is expendable, including every starting pitcher. They don’t even have a closer anymore. Would someone please explain how Freddie Freeman is a “can’t miss” prospect. We already raised a first baseman and he plays for the Diamondbacks. Thanks for nothing Frank Wren.

bravesfan

October 13th, 2010
10:07 pm

I do agree that we did need change as hitting coach but it’s really up to the players to take it in and if they don’t then it will sure show at the plate. I like Hubbard and yes maybe he should have been kept and TP over to 3rd but Hubbard was over the fielding and we had alot of errors so the same can be said about that as the hitting to all Braves fans the season is over so let’s just hope we get some big time players in the off season and Chipper comes back to help lead this team back to the big fall classic! Go Braves!

BBUA

October 13th, 2010
10:17 pm

I like the hire but agree with most that I’m sorry to see Hubbard let go. Another blogger mentioned a past relationship between Fredi and TP. I think I saw on DOB blog a year ago or so that Fredi, TP and DOB rode motorcycles together. I guess he felt more comfortable with TP than Hubbard. .

Mr. Enigma

October 13th, 2010
10:19 pm

Hubbard got thrown out because he was the infield coach. The Braves led MLB in errors after the All-Star break. Not exactly a glowing endorsement for re-hiring.

Just a thought.....

October 13th, 2010
10:21 pm

This is for Freddi and Frank……Please interview former Phillies hitting instructor and former Brave Milt Thompson. He like Freddi got a bad rap when they needed to fire someone in Phillie but he is also the one who put the work in with Rollins, Utley, and Howard. I believe they turned out pretty good offensively. Thompson might also lure Worth away from the Phillies if we can afford him.

P. Bull Terrier

October 13th, 2010
10:22 pm

Hubbard is taking the fall for not screaming “Run!!!” loud enough to get Alex Gonzalez moving after he hit the ball in Game 4. A good T-Ball 1st base coach knows that sometimes you have to scream at the top of your lungs, jump up and down, and wave your hat around to get a player moving out of the box after he hits the ball. It was all Hubbard’s fault.

Smart Jay

October 13th, 2010
10:24 pm

I disagree vehemently that the Braves, healthy, are a AAA lineup next year. They will be heavy on the left side next year, which means they need to sign a power RH outfielder. Certainly there are question marks – 1. Can Chipper hit .280 with 20-25 homers and 80+ RBI?
2. Can Freeman play 1B and hit near .300 with 20+ HR’s?
3. What to do with Infante? Play LF and see if he can hit .300 again? Utility again and get perhaps 300 AB’s?
4. Who will play CF? Look at McLouth’s contract – he’s untradeable at his cost. He’s going to be given an opportunity to win that job.

The pitching promises to be good, league-leading even. So, if the Braves can add a decent RH bat and if Chipper comes through again, and if Freeman is the real deal, this team would have Chipper, Freeman, Heyward, Infante, McCann, and that 3rd OF (assuming) all capable of 20 homers/80 RBI’s.

That’s a lot of IF’s, but by no means outside the realm of possibility.

MattyRoss

October 13th, 2010
10:26 pm

Milt Thompson is not a bad idea…

AdirondackDave

October 13th, 2010
10:27 pm

Whatever happened to Don Baylor? He would get my vote for hitting coach, at least until Chipper retires and gets the job.

BERNIE

October 13th, 2010
10:28 pm

A life long Braves player and coach and Hubbard is out. Shame on you Freddi. I thought you were going to be fine but now I don’t know. Reconsider and let TP go.

hangman

October 13th, 2010
10:31 pm

Thank God, it’s over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Braves Fan in Illinois

October 13th, 2010
10:34 pm

I can’t believe they didn’t at least offer Hubbard another job. I don’t know what it would’ve been, but that’s not the way you treat a guy who has pretty much given his life to your organization. Even if you know he’d never be interested in the position you offer, you give him the chance to turn you down instead of essentially throwing him out on his keister.

gcs

October 13th, 2010
10:35 pm

You people who blame TP are ignorant to how baseball works.

Don’t quit your day jobs.

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hard to figure out

October 13th, 2010
10:35 pm

The braves were 14th in MLB in hitting and 26th in fielding. So by those simple numbers why should Hubbard stay and Pendelton go?? Why couldn’t he make Conrad into a All-Star 2nd baseman or stop Gonzales from making so many careless mistakes? Oh, I know he can put them in position, but can’t make them catch a ball hit directly to them. So when TP gives instructions or works on mechanics and the players still swing and miss, why is he a terrible coach? Some of you need to apply for the circus because ya’ll are the biggest bunch of clownsI really can’t understand the strong hatred for TP.

RHR

October 13th, 2010
10:37 pm

Good to hear that TP took it well, I wondered if he felt slighted by not even being interviewed for the manager job, one that so many thought he would get some day.

Don!

October 13th, 2010
10:40 pm

DOB, I know you’re working on it … but can we expect some comments from Glenn? I, like many others here, feel he was given the short end of the stick here — and he’s one of the better people who have been part of this franchise for the last three decades.

Thanks,

Don!

bamakirk

October 13th, 2010
10:41 pm

Geez, some of you have no clue. You want to hire a manager, but tell him which coaches he has to keep? I am the biggest Hubbard fan around but anytime you have a change at the top everyones job is at risk. Pendleton is a good baseball man and will do fine. I also think he is not as bad of a hitting coach as some of you think. After 9 years we just needed a different approach.

chris

October 13th, 2010
10:41 pm

Hubbard has given many years to this organization – as player and coach – more so than Pendleton. I like them both and i just hope the Braves find a way to at least offer him some type of position within this system even if its as a scout or minor league instructor. Not sure he’ll take it but itd take this bad taste out of a lot of fans mouth over this move. Loyalty is a two way street- the man gave his to this team for 12 years as a coach and 10 as a player. Enough said

Fired Chino and Hubbs...

October 13th, 2010
10:43 pm

Why?

tbravefan

October 13th, 2010
10:44 pm

The Hitting Coach should be Jamie Dismuke – ask any of the players who has worked with him in Gwinnett – or gee…who was that 2nd baseman last year who was sent to AAA and suddenly he hit like 30 homers for the D’backs this year after working with Dismuke… oh yeah Kelly Johnson!
If he can help all those players- he’s our man!!!

bascogcjs

October 13th, 2010
10:45 pm

WTH do you all see in Hubbard?
Just because he played for them doesn’t make him so valuable.

Kristen

October 13th, 2010
10:48 pm

Yes, let’s get rid of Hubbard, who has molded great infielders, like Prado and Giles .But not offer him another job within the organization. But keep Pendleton and give him another coaching position. Yea, that makes perfect sense. Just when I think the Braves are headed in the right direction, in hiring Gonzalez, they go and do this!!!

bascogcjs

October 13th, 2010
10:53 pm

Dave, what are you talking about? Giles was never a great fielder. He was a poor defensive player and an offensive player who was supposedly helped by s——-.
I don’t get all this infatuation with hubbard. To me, he seemed to have no energy on the field.
People who hate Pendleton and Love Hubbard. That’s just really strange.

Jim Presley

October 13th, 2010
10:56 pm

Fredi gonna bring me to ATL with him, I coached with him in Miami and played in Atl….good fit, except I don’t know squat about hitting but forgot more than TP ever knew.

hAL

October 13th, 2010
10:57 pm

tp wasnt known as a hitter or a fielder maybe go for malcontenyt

74years

October 13th, 2010
10:58 pm

Somebody,Please tell me why we kept Snitker and let Hubbard go -

hard to figure out

October 13th, 2010
10:58 pm

Kristen

Giles a great infielder? Really? Prado had a career year under Pendelton this year, but I know it was in spite of Pendelton not because of him. Spin it how you want, you can be the ring leader of the circus with the rest of the clowns.

ABravesFan

October 13th, 2010
11:18 pm

Sad to see Hubbard let go, but I guess a minor league role would be insulting for someone with his experience. I’ll also miss Chino as well. No doubt am I excited about a new hitting coach, though that guy should just be keeping the seat warm for Chipper.

JRW7

October 13th, 2010
11:19 pm

Welcome Fredi, I would have kept GH and let TP go, might be your 1st mistake!!!!!! I can’t believe you kept TP!!!!!

sportsmandh

October 13th, 2010
11:20 pm

I think this is a great day for the Braves and their fans. To me, it helps to ease the sting and anger about losing the playoff series. It’s very nice to have a good feeling about getting the off season off to a good start. I have posted earlier in the week about the future is very bright. I’m glad the Braves didn’t wait long on announcing the manager decision. And from a PR standpoint, this couldn’t have worked out any better. It worked out like a torch passing ceremony. It is gonna be a good fit and mixture of coaches and players and make the transition very easy in my opinion. And the whole quote about Cox noting not winning much the last few years, and Freddy being younger, and new ideas, maybe even better ideas. Pretty humble statement by Cox. It is also obvious with that statement to me Cox probably is more happy with the situation just b/c of who is replacement is.

I was also glad to see Bobby asked about his new role, you can just tell from his statements a huge burden has been lifted off him. I’m very surprised by his tone of voice and how at ease he seemed at the press conference. It seems like he’s very happy (DOB am I misreading this?). That makes me think that he hasn’t really had many second thoughts about anything, and that he really was ready to get out. But on the other hand, having him around in the consulting aspect is still going to be a very good benefit to the team. I’ve posted about being glad he is out as the manager, mainly b/c of in game decisions and also thinking it’s past due for some new blood. But nobody in their right mind can argue with the knowledge he provides to the whole organization. You can just tell from the way he, Wren, and Gonzalez all were talking today. Everybody seems very happy with the way things have worked out (including the players). That can only help the organization going forward, that it seems like everybody is on the same page.

And one last thought, I think it’s really funny about Florida. They are wanting to get over the hump, and they can a coach that 4 or 5 teams want right off the bat. And worse yet, he’s snatched up immediately by a division rival. Talk about dropping the Braves gift on a silver platter. And who are they gonna get, Bobby Valentine? HA. I have a feeling that move is gonna be one that really haunts them for the foreseeable future. Maybe this was why they didn’t ‘honor’ Cox at the last game in Florida like all the other teams did. They knew, you’re parting gift is your replacement.

Jack

October 13th, 2010
11:23 pm

Don’t understand all the talk about Chipper as the hitting coach. The Dude makes millions a year… He’s going to take a job making 2 or 3 K a year? Yeah, right! Hope we get somebody equally as good a Roger to be the next hitting coach.

Thanks for the memories Bobby and good luck Fredi Hate to see Hubbard be the odd man out but it’s part of the business. Fredi deserves the opportunity to have his own staff. Probably more to the story with Hubbard and Chino not being offered some type of job in the organization.

wjones

October 13th, 2010
11:24 pm

I agree with those who question the decision to keep Snitker. It seems that the infield defense this year must have led to Hubbard’s demise, but Snitker seems to have little instincts as a base coach. Has more stop signs than a school district.

Heisenberg

October 13th, 2010
11:24 pm

I am quitting my day job tomorrow to apply for the hitting coach job.

bravesfan83

October 13th, 2010
11:26 pm

I’m gonna miss ol Bobby but like he saidwe need a younger guy to come in here with more ideas and I like what Freedi brings to the table! Let’s just deal with the moves he has made and let’s just see how he does

sportsmandh

October 13th, 2010
11:34 pm

There is no telling who the hitting coach will be. It’s very possible it could be somebody out of left field, nowhere, whatever you want to call it that nobody has thought of that could be a big surprise. For me, Chris Chambliss is somebody that I would think to be a good pick.

All in all (other than Snitker), I’m happy with the retained coaches. Maybe Hubbard was offered another position like TP and told them he wasn’t interested. And maybe Fredi can teach Snitker how to coach 3rd base. I have griped about Snitker like others, and there’s good reasons. But let’s be honest, if the team hits better overall then that is the much bigger issue.

sportsmandh

October 13th, 2010
11:36 pm

Hey DOB,
Maybe you, Fredi, and TP could make a motor cycle movie like that Road Hogs comedy movie that was out a few years ago. You could be the Tim Allen role, Fredi could be the Travolta role, TP could be the Martin Lawrence role. But you would need a nerd to be the William Macy role. Think Van Wieran could do it? Can’t see him being a motorcycle guy.

sportsmandh

October 13th, 2010
11:38 pm

Oh yeah, meant to mention, I think we should be pretty happy with getting Tosca as the bench coach. Seems like a really good pick.

PALADIN DEATH DEALER

October 13th, 2010
11:44 pm

What a shame about Hubbard…Guess he should have bought him a motorcycle and rode with FREDI to the park….That is a hell of a reason to keep one guy and let another go….Braves have a habit of handling their former players just like they handled Hubbard, remember Smoltz and Glavine…Very little class not even offering him a job in the front office….But politics are everywhere, with the Braves and even in the church….NO CLASS HERE….CAN’T WAIT TO SEE WHAT HUBBARD HAS TO SAY….

RJ DAWG

October 13th, 2010
11:46 pm

Everyone asking why Glen Hubbard was let go well here is the reason Brooks Conrad.All those error’s led to Hubbard not being retained.Since the Allstar break the Braves infeild had more errors than any other team.

retired .... on the lake and broke

October 13th, 2010
11:49 pm

Snitcker is a good 3b coach believe there were many more close plays at the plate that went our way than not. The Mcann thing was boneheaded sh#t happens.

The organization does not need a new great 2b needs a 3b post chip … oh tp is a former 3b think about it. screw the racial references doesn’t add into the equation see above

Wish Glenn the best ….

Fredi lead us to the promised land

repeat previous post of distinguished poster When do pitchers and catcher report.?

NSeagle78

October 13th, 2010
11:49 pm

Everyone blames Pendleton for the bad hitting, however the players that left the braves because of an inability to hit have continued to struggle. TP deserves some loyality. The change that needed to be made has been made, good by Bobby.

RJ DAWG

October 13th, 2010
11:51 pm

Game3 and all those errors by Brooks Conrad got Glen Hubbard fired.The position coach is always held acountable when the players don’t do their jobs.Brooks Conrad got Hubbard fired wiyh his poor play.

Henry D.

October 13th, 2010
11:51 pm

GREG NORTON FOR HITTING COACH!!!!

retiring 6 years too late

October 13th, 2010
11:52 pm

Chipper will never put up descent numbers as an everyday player. Those days ARE GONE! Liberty media took the safe way out on hiring FG as manager. This teams needs speed at the top of the order. a LF who can hit for power, SS who can field and a CF. Until low budget Liberty Media sells this team to someone Locally…………………..Da Braves will be a 75 to 80 wins ball club if lucky. This team will never challenge for the East nor win a World Series or make it to a WS. Fredie G. will continue to be a under 500 mgr. Good Choice Frank Wren you make ASG look like champions.

TK

October 13th, 2010
11:56 pm

I like the DON BAYLOR idea. On TP…some people he helped a lot. But, a lot he did nothing for… AJ, Frenchy, Kelly, Nate, and Chipper went to his dad for help this year. A hitting coach needs to help a guy when he is going bad get to hitting as quick as possible. It seems TP either could not help them or it took a while to fix the problem.

RJ DAWG

October 13th, 2010
11:57 pm

Enter your comments here

Captain

October 13th, 2010
11:59 pm

I too am sad to see Hubby go but like many have said already, it’s part of what happens. The new manager deserves to bring some of his guys and Fredi is probably keeping far more than many other new managers typically do. But to those who are saying we should have kept Hubby in the organization because of his time spent and canned Snitker, are you forgetting that Snitker has been with the Braves since ‘77?

zoxh01

October 14th, 2010
12:01 am

Why is everybody mad about TP??? OOps! I mean Freddie.
I thought TP did a great job with CJ,AJ,DeRosa,Blouser,Limke etc. I remember when Hubbard played for the Braves and I also remember when TP played for the Braves. TP was just as good a player as Hubby and helped the Braves win a World Championship. I really don’t think you can coach discipline. It’s something (IMHO)you learn. I saw a lot of undisciplined hitters during the NLDS. If that’s laid on TP move him where he may be able to help (Infield)…as for Hubby, maybe he was responsible for infielding and Braves definitely weren’t doing much of that all year. I just don’t think you fire a coach who helps you win championships, and then coach your hitters and help to you sustain the winning. TP did well with what he had to work with. Especially, when all the money was spent on the pitching. Don’t think that’s the mindset anymore. Maybe there’s others reasons some of you feel the way you do.

Chris P. Bacon

October 14th, 2010
12:06 am

Glenn Hubbard deserved better than this. The Fredi era begins inauspiciously.

LAG

October 14th, 2010
12:12 am

zoxh01, I have to call you out on two of the points you wanted to make.

1) Pendleton did a good job with Blauser and Lemke? LOL. TP shared the field with them. He wasn’t their coach. Ever.

2) Pendleton wasn’t on the ‘95 team that won the World Series. He was the Marlins’ starting 3B that season.

LAG

October 14th, 2010
12:15 am

A third point:
Andruw Jones improved as a hitter under Don Baylor but regressed under Pendleton (ok, that one was on Andruw, really). And it’s well-documented that Chipper goes to his father for his hitting advice.

Darrell in Myrtle Beach

October 14th, 2010
12:20 am

Don Baylor for hitting Coach. I would have put TP at 3rd. How many train wrecks has Brian Stinker caused coming around 3rd?

Baylor4HittingCoach

October 14th, 2010
12:21 am

I am not happy about Hubbard but ok with TP being moved. All of you complainers finally have ousted TP from his job of “ruining” swings…
Dear Fredi; great press conference today and thank you for being gracious with the man who groomed you. We are all going to miss Bobby and was it me or did he look younger today? Fredi; please do yourself a favor and get Don Baylor back in baseball. A perfect situation would be right here, working on Braves’ swings. Since the post season is now menaingless except to see Frenchy and Andrus get rings, I am already looking forward to the Braves in 2011!!

iChop2249 (formerly wonder2249)

October 14th, 2010
12:23 am

Braves had a horrible batting avg in september and october.

Braves made most errors after the All-Star break…AFTER YUNEL WAS GONE!!

I’m glad this organization has finally got off the snide with loyalty to players…not that they don’t deserve none, but this ain’t the Bobby show no more/.

The Abs Man

October 14th, 2010
12:30 am

Fredi’s first task is to tell Alex Gonzalez, “You suck, and your only option is to leave.”

nash

October 14th, 2010
12:31 am

any word on bringing in Leon Mazzonie

The Abs Man

October 14th, 2010
12:32 am

And Fredi’s next task, I suggest, would be to tell Melky, “since you’re more interested in eating melk-duds then being a productive player, don’t let the door hit you on the way out….Go laugh and act all goofy and stupid when you make bonehead playes for someone else….”

Bob McHyman

October 14th, 2010
12:35 am

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Hy McBobman

October 14th, 2010
12:39 am

Well, that didn’t take long to start off on the wrong foot.

Fins and Chins

October 14th, 2010
12:41 am

any word on bringing in Leon Mazzonie

Not gonna happen. He’s having too much fun making an ass of himself on the radio with that moron Shmuck BooHoo.

Tnmurdock

October 14th, 2010
1:10 am

I can’t believe they would just throw yosemite sam out like that… Glen was a part of this braves team long long before frank. I don’t agree with the hiring of frank…but then…they did so I’m behind him… I think someone closer would have been better…but it’s still going to be hard to think of was the last year of the braves and next year, will be the braves without Bobby… crazy… BUT I do wish Bobby all the best…and of course the bravos… THEY ARE OUR TEAM…

Martin

October 14th, 2010
1:12 am

how about Hank Aaron or Dale Murphy as hitting coach? Fred McGriff???

braves fan

October 14th, 2010
1:15 am

I don’t understand why so many people here want Chipper as hitting coach. Did I miss something?

Great natural talents often make lousy instructors. Not to mention the hitting coach’s salary is probably Chipper’s budget line item for shotgun shells at his ranch.

PALADIN DEATH DEALER

October 14th, 2010
1:17 am

RJ DAWG:
HOPE YOU DON’T REALLY BELIEVE THAT WAS WHY HUBBARD WAS FIRED….IT WAS ABOUT OLD FRIENDS WHO RODE MOTORCYCLES TOGETHER TO THE BALLPARK…..FREDI, I THOUGHT, WAS A GOOD HIRE, BUT ON HIS FIRST DAY ON THE JOB HE SHOWS THAT HE WILL STICK A GREAT AND LIFE LONG BRAVE IN THE BACK….IF HUBBARD WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR 12 YEARS WITH COX, CERTAINLY HE CAN FIT IN SOMEWHERE WITH THE NEW GROUP….WHAT IS COX’S LOYALTY TO TO HUBBARD? DISAPPOINTED IN BOBBY COX IN THIS REGARD ALSO….SEEMS AS IF THERE WERE SEVERAL OF THE UPPER ECHELON BRAVES WITH KNIVES IN THE BACK ON HUBBARD…MAYBE THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT….I TOLD HUBBARD TO BUY HIM A SCOOTER AND RIDE WITH THE BOYS TO THE BALL PARK EVERYDAY….NOW ITS DONE COST HIM HIS JOB…..

iFrech

October 14th, 2010
1:34 am

Just thinking out loud…

Maybe Hubbard wanted out along with Bobby. He had been in the organization for so long, maybe wanted to either take a break or look for some other job elsewhere.

nelson

October 14th, 2010
1:40 am

nice job freddi ! don baylor next ….?

Chpatt

October 14th, 2010
1:49 am

It’s clear that Hubbard was not retained because of the lack of quality defense. He was the infield coach and there were far too many errors all around the infield this year. It probably costed us about 5-7 games…and that means the division.

TP was a 3 time gold glover, a really solid fielder, so he will definitely be working a lot with guys like infante, conrad, freeman, and gonzalez (i think chipper can handle himself).

Glad McDowell is staying. He revolutionized Derek Lowe and really helped Tommy Hanson (he just got no run support)

JASon

October 14th, 2010
2:23 am

The south is overridden with politics and good ole boy type deals that keep underachieving people in jobs. Hubbard sucked, okay? Is that enough reason for you? Did you happen to watch and see our infield choke away games this season? Hubbard obviously has a huge family/friends support group on here complaining. F ‘em!

matty brave

October 14th, 2010
2:36 am

Damn, we should of sent TP down the river. Love the Gonzo hire. Someone said they had to keep TP cause it was a “race” thing. That’s dumb! I don’t care what color you are, if you are no good at your job then you should lose it!

MIkega1965

October 14th, 2010
3:14 am

Enter your comments here

MIkega1965

October 14th, 2010
3:26 am

TP sucks at anything was always lazy and over weight was not even considered for the hall after retirement which means he was and under achiever was basically means he sucks:::: We all know Hubby was the man more guts than TP ever had not a hall of famer but definitly a hell of a competitor. Terry got where he is because Hank has a say damn a team that dont have a black leader god knows Jesse and NAACP would have had a fit! Thanks Freddy you are an A!! an a a!! kissing F-ER if your going to manage you have to make hard decisions? You had a choice but you demonstrated that you are not a leader but and A!!. Look at KJ he had a great year look at what Heyward did he was afraid to swing the bat should have had a better year by far. Look at J F was a hell of a hitter before TP totally F-ed him up. Hope he turns it around like K J. Terry is a loser in every way Freddie you will be a loser too! YOu are and A####$$$ kisser you F!

bravesfannnnn1995

October 14th, 2010
3:45 am

WHAT ABOUT RUDY JARAMILLO?????

jj

October 14th, 2010
4:06 am

I don’t understand the dislike for TP.I think FG has a right to pick his staff as any new CEO would and I believe it is important to feel comfortable with those you chose to work with you.Good luck Freddie and I wish you would have had the chance to manage some of the Players that were traded this year for HR hitters that never hit any when they came to The ATL but didn’t do much of anything else also.I hope our 3rd baseman is able to give you a year that matches his salary and I hope our SS learn to not complain to the umphs so much because I know The Jays want take him back because they have a former Brave that was accused of doing some of the same things and was shipped and believe it or not he was probably a better player.Freddie you came a year or two to late to save this TEAM but I believe if The GM,who I believe did all he could do to help BC,and Liberty Media ainte up,you can win.Good luck Freddie and GO BRAVES….

Sucks To Be Glen Hubbard

October 14th, 2010
4:55 am

“gcs

October 13th, 2010
10:35 pm
You people who blame TP are ignorant to how baseball works.

Don’t quit your day jobs.”

gcs…. most people who are working their day jobs know how the day job works…. the same as baseball with a couple of exceptions. It’s the same in that TP and Fredi are tight so TP still has a job although he failed miserably at his last position. Hubbard and Fredi aren’t tight so he paid for the failures associated with his responsibility by losing his job. So technically, you terminate one failure and replace him with another failure whose your bud!

Another thing different with the Braves and the day job. In the day job, someone would be terminated for consistently failing in their job. TP was retained after failing at his job.

London Calling

October 14th, 2010
5:36 am

Amazing. It’s his first day on the job and already the board is full of hate for Fredi.

Is hate all some of you losers can do?

Reid in EAV

October 14th, 2010
6:08 am

A few random comments ON the comments I’m seeing posted — some fairly smart: (Milt Thompson? Jamie Dismuke? Those names have to be on the short list for hitting coach. That said, Jim Pressley is the name I hear the most.) And some not so smart: “TP is awful! Why is he still here?” etc.

While I love Glenn Hubbard and hate to see him go (as a Braves fan from the ’70s, how could I not feel that way?) I’m of the opinion that TP got a pretty bad, undeserved rap as hitting coach. After all, midseason the Braves led the league in OBP and for a while, were second in runs scored, and everyone was offering kudos for the patience displayed at the plate (something TP has preached for years). And yet, while TP got the blame for the late-season offensive fall-off (as Chipper, then Prado, exited the lineup, remember) he got no credit for when we were going well.

He’s a smart baseball man and always has been, and as I recall, when he came aboard in ‘91, he was basically hired for his glove at 3B (the 1990 Braves and the late 80s teams had error rates similar to this year’s squad — or worse). I always admired his fundamentals at the hot corner. So I think he’ll be fine coaching infielders, and I’m happy he’s still on the staff. And perhaps removing him as batting coach will give the yahoos one less thing to talk about and complain about.

Also, somebody joked about Greg Norton for hitting coach. Believe it or not, I don’t take that as a joke. Norton had an abysmal final season, no doubt, but that was largely because his bat speed decided to take a hike. (You get old; it happens.) But he had a rep in the clubhouse and around baseball as being amazingly smart, and more than a few players on the current squad credit him with improvements from advice he gave last year. Did you know he now manages the New Orleans Zephyrs, the Marllins’ AAA affiliate? I wouldn’t be surprised to see him in an opposing dugout very soon. Laugh if you want, but thinking he’s worthless just because he was nearly 0-for-2009 is definitely an uninformed perspective.

old man

October 14th, 2010
6:09 am

jj
October 14th, 2010
4:06 am

Best post award goes to you.

Sowega Sam

October 14th, 2010
6:15 am

Great move with the ?batting? coach!
Braves hitters have had nine years of no help, at all.
Good guy, perhaps —- hitting instructor, nada!

Charlie

October 14th, 2010
6:24 am

David O’Brian,

Could you give an update, regarding the contract status of the Braves’ 25 man roster, as of today?
(Who is already under contract for next year, arbitration eligible, and who is not.) Whould you care to do an article / blog speculating on where you this the personal may be by Srping Training?

rc35

October 14th, 2010
6:25 am

I was shocked to see that Glenn Hubbard was dropped. He’s been a Brave for life, and to see him dumped on day one of a new administration caught me by surprise. I’m guessing Chino had to go because he managed every time Bobby Cox was ejected, and I think we won most of those games, so I guess Fredi didn’t want a competent second-guesser in the dugout.

lin

October 14th, 2010
6:25 am

well not too bad but could be better. get 3 yrs of freddi so i heard well if he last one and half be interesting. as i see part old braves are gone but hubbard he should still be there everyone else gone. as long as 2 big shot bosses are leading the braves i put us still in 3rd for next yr. chipper should be the hitting coach. or even smoltz. sure its normal new mgr wants some his old help but will it work? oh well braves see ya in spring.

Hooter Girl

October 14th, 2010
6:54 am

Can’t you see folks, keeping TP and letting Hubbie go was an ethnic decision. If the Braves kept no black coaches, Obama would say they acted stupidly.

Bobby's Cox

October 14th, 2010
6:57 am

Chipper for hitting coach please!

Chipper’s Dad for hitting coach?

Bobby's Cox

October 14th, 2010
6:58 am

Should’ve dropped Snitker and kept Hubbard.

Thundersticks

October 14th, 2010
7:17 am

“The south is overridden with politics and good ole boy type deals that keep underachieving people in jobs.”

Yeah, this never happens up north or out west, just in the south.

Jimmy Carter

October 14th, 2010
7:25 am

Should have dropped TP and kept Hubbard!!

Edo River

October 14th, 2010
7:27 am

Hubbard should have been kept or offered something. That was cruel. TP should get experiences that will prepare him for management.

jase80

October 14th, 2010
7:31 am

Hey guys I know who we need to wake this bats up. If you thing about it How bout Julio Franco. Remember. He was awsome during his times as a hittier and All around good Baseball Player for many years. Heck I Bet he could still Hit. B/c she stay in top shap. What ya think?

Boca Baby

October 14th, 2010
7:35 am

I love Leo Mazzone but he never achieved the same success after leaving the Braves. Well, then again, who wouldn’t be considered legendary coaching the likes of Smotz, Glavine and Maddux at the same time! Those three guys would turn anyone into a legend.

BRAVOS FOR LIFE

October 14th, 2010
7:43 am

how can you guys want TP gone and not Hubbard.

I like Glen but the Braves defense was TERRIBLE

Hope

October 14th, 2010
7:46 am

Chipper Jones would be a GREAT fit as a hitting coach. Many players, specially young would look up to him for guidance and support. Chipper, C’mon man, REALLY take this one for the team! CHIPPER CHIPPER CHIPPER.

RGP

October 14th, 2010
7:46 am

Looks like Hubbard got the shaft. If anyone should have gotten canned it should have been TP based on results- our hitting was terrible.

Hope

October 14th, 2010
7:47 am

TP as a infield/field coach… You’ve gotta be kidding me!

Truisms

October 14th, 2010
7:53 am

I can’t believe you people are really so down on TP. No accounting for talent, but when any team fills its roster on the cheap, it gets what it has paid for. Pitching coaches and hitting coaches more likely than not take on the personality of their manager. The manager oversees all aspects of his team and gives his own ideas of how he wants things done. Atlanta has been…under Bobby Cox’s tenure…a passive non-agressive team. Instead of coaching to make things happen, he sits back and waits for things to happen. He micro-manages to the point that he calls every pitch and doesn’t give the green light often enough to his base stealers. The brave success over the years has been because of pitching. Seldomly have the braves lead the league in hitting. That’s Cox’s formula. It served him well…except in the post season. Now I agree it was time for a new voice. And a new hitting coach should be able to put his own stamp on the team…instead of just going with the status quo of his manager. However, I certainly do not believe that the Brave’s hitting woes should solely be the blame of the hitting coach…talent not withstanding.

dub366

October 14th, 2010
7:57 am

really it don’t matter who the hitting coach is, you got to get some player in here who can play ball. now that Bobby has gone thank God maybe we will see ABC baseball.

stew

October 14th, 2010
7:59 am

I don’t want Melky on the team next year. PLEASE GET RID OF MELKY. HE CAN’T HIT OR FIELD. HE IS A TOTAL WASTE. PLEASE PLEASE HE IS THE WORST PEACE OF CRAP.

bravesgrl4life

October 14th, 2010
8:08 am

Did anyone stop to think that the decision to let Hubbard go was not solely on Fredi’s shoulders? Hello, Frank Wren is the General Manager. Too, maybe Hubbard had not expressed a desire to stay with the organization with Bobby retiring. I like Hubbard and I wish him well, but maybe the dude wants to go fishing or something

I supported Bobby Cox, and I will support Fredi Gonzalez. I have always liked him and I think he’s going to be a great Manager.

George

October 14th, 2010
8:14 am

Glenn Hubbard deserved better; if not on the major league club at least an offer of something else. Not a good move to start the new era.

erm016

October 14th, 2010
8:22 am

Business is business, don’t let your emotions get in the way.

Bravo-Ski

October 14th, 2010
8:23 am

Racist much Dick??

Bravo-Ski

October 14th, 2010
8:26 am

Not like I know Glenn Hubbard, but all Braves fans seem to share the sentiment. He appeared to be a good guy and certainly a pleasant individual. I’m quite sure that there’s more to it than meets the eye. Sad thing is, it’s the nature of that (or any) business.

Eisendawg

October 14th, 2010
8:30 am

Well, I see Joe Tess Fish House is back on here, “loosing” again. lol

rfgh

October 14th, 2010
8:34 am

“Dick” was right to a degree. If they had kept Hubbard and fired Pendleton, some would be crying rascism just as they complain about not enough AA in baseball, even though 12% of the population represents over 50% of pro sports atheletes. It is what it is. And it will never change.

Navigator

October 14th, 2010
8:46 am

You guys, I read your remarks! You are thinking like me now, and yeah can we get Escobar back for Gonzo? I still can’t believe this team trading a young talented short stop for an old one that made just as many errors or in some cases simply couldn’t reach the grounders to make an error. You don’t trade young pitchers with talent, too hard to come by. By the way would somebody tell Red to stop showing the ball before he throws it, like maybe keep it in the glove. He’s been giving away pitches for two years, and please make Chipper a pinch hitter (won’t get hurt as much), You have an infield minus the shortstop when everyone is back, or if you have to play Chippy, then move one of the two allstar infielders to short and trade sea bass. There’s a good first baseman coming out of the minors, but he didn’t show a lot when he was up this year, so he needs more experience.

Worth taking a look

October 14th, 2010
8:52 am

GREG WALKER would be great as hitting Coach for Braves.

PH

October 14th, 2010
8:55 am

I am hoping whomever is the new hitting coach knows how to instruct the guys on hitting. A shame Chino is gone. He was a couple players on the team’s translator.

Jesse Stone

October 14th, 2010
8:58 am

Younger Than That Now

October 13th, 2010
10:01 pm
I too don’t like the race card being thrown out in every situation these days… it just isn’t a black & white issue in most cases, and especially in this one. If you will think back TP and Fredi used to ride their scooters to the ballpark together most every day, but even with that I think that Fredi is a big enough guy and a stand-up guy and he’s not going to let things like that get into the way of doing his job… especially his new job.

It is sad to see Hub thrown to the curb after so many years in the organization… I know for a fact that the job he did at Macon was very good and not an easy situation. First of all, it’s Macon… who isn’t known for supporting any sports franchise… and secondly it’s so close to Atlanta that he had to have felt like somebody was looking over his shoulder all the time with a microscope.

He’s a good guy and he’ll do well in whatever he does, and who knows, he might be tired of the travel grind with him doing it for so long, and you’re coaching guys who are making 150 times what you’re making. Not a bad gig, and I’d love to ride that train for a while too, but the travel and being away from home and family for 7-8 months out of the year would get old
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Glenn Hubbard was never manager of the Macon Braves.

Versiroth

October 14th, 2010
8:59 am

Glenn’s Job was infield defense, which was horrible this year and also it’s the 1st base coaches job to time the pitchers and indicate if our guys can steal. Hubbard was horrible at this. It seemed like our guys were always thrown out by 5 feet. Heck, Francoeur, who never stole bases here even stole some once he left. I’m glad Hubbard has been replaced. TP needs to get a stop watch and do a better job at getting our guys good jumps.

gordonguy

October 14th, 2010
9:00 am

Glenn Hubbard – manager of the Pittsburgh Pirates?

PH

October 14th, 2010
9:01 am

I like what I read from one commenter. Julio Franco hitting coach and heck lets make him starting first baseman too.

jimmymack

October 14th, 2010
9:07 am

mr hubbard your class and dignity will be sorely missed.as i said to you on the escalator in chicago during the allstar game thank you for the way you represent the city and the atlanta braves

Carroll

October 14th, 2010
9:09 am

I don’t care for this notion that “because Freddi did such a good job with such a low payroll, he must be a good manager” nonsense. He may well turn out to be good, but the payroll in fla is no reflection of the kinda talent he had to work with. He had some of the best young arms in the game, and the likes of HanRam, Uggla, and others in the field/lineup. Very similar to how Joe Maddon (Rays) has one of the lowest payrolls in the AL, but it is rife with young talent across the board.

mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache

October 14th, 2010
9:09 am

What a horriable thing to do to Hubbard! Terry approach to hitting will be the same to the infield. A monotoned approach. The team didnt respond to him as a hitting coach, so what makes them think that the team will change with him at the first base coach!!! It will have the same results. Snicker is still here? They let go the wrong man! I am not happy with the moves. Snicker, sorry for the misspell, is really bad at third. My have cost some games for us. I dont see TP as our guy. In any role….

Hub fan

October 14th, 2010
9:14 am

Fredi’s 1st day done piss fans off already by keeping TP.

coo coo bird fan

October 14th, 2010
9:15 am

When Bobby Cox was hired he had a losing record, so much for that theory about Freddi. The chances of us finding another coach to last 25 yrs arent good

jerry

October 14th, 2010
9:16 am

When TP was a player he once told a reporter that he did not watch the game when he was not playing because it was boring.

jerry

October 14th, 2010
9:17 am

coo coo bird fan ——–And why did Bobby have a losing record?

Lost Cause

October 14th, 2010
9:24 am

Just a reminder, TP was probably #2 or #3 on the slate to actually be manager. Better he be at first base than in charge. Go Braves!

Now let’s find a big bat or someone who can run … or field or all three!!! Can you believe they had 91 wins with that offense … and defense?

GTSteve

October 14th, 2010
9:25 am

Joe Simpson for hitting coach

Ex Braves Fan

October 14th, 2010
9:30 am

The Braves took SEVEN rookies into the NLDS. They have serious problems at all levels of the everyday players. First, they badly need to just get rid of these over paid, non productive position players. Players such as Broke Ankle, MilkyDud, Lee, Glossedout, etc. have got too go. Surely there are better players available at the cheap Braves can afford. Sadly, Chipper’s day has come and he is costing them a small fortune. Those $18 million could be spent bringing in two or three decent players. But, Jones will be back. They have no 3dbaseman too replace him. They will have the kid at 1B next year. Gonzo will have one year on his contract I think, so stuck with him also. Diaz had a horrible season, injury or not. Even after he came back, he never got his average up. Jason will only get better. So, really, they need help at: 3B, SS, LF, CF, back up at 1B, 3B, SS, 2B. I guess the Fonz can still be the 2B next year, but I don’t see the same production. It was a career year. But, still .285 or so out of him would be good. Conrad is not an everyday player. We saw that in the play offs. No playoffs next year.

bertdawg

October 14th, 2010
9:33 am

Andrew Jones and Jeff Franceurwere sluggers who all the sudden couldn’t hit. The Braves currently have 5 or 6 guys who have hit for 25 homers or more with other teams. Heyward was hitting balls out of the park in spring training but has been taught to hit down on the ball and just try to make contact. The only common denominator was our hitting coach. I think Terry will be good in his new role but so was Hubbard.

danbo

October 14th, 2010
9:37 am

Keeping TP is a serious mistake.

Jesse Stone

October 14th, 2010
9:43 am

Funny how Bobby’s biggest criticism is his loyalty, and now people are pi$$ed at Fredi because he wasn’t loyal to a lifelong Brave (who played for Oakland as well). Hubbard was a first base coach and infield coordinator to a bad infield defense. Easily replaceable.

Jesse Stone

October 14th, 2010
9:44 am

I spoke to Brandon Hyde last night, who was the Marlions bench coach after Fredi was fired. He says the whole staff is in flux because they hear the FG may be bringing a few of his guys to Atlanta.

kgb

October 14th, 2010
9:46 am

I liked Hubbard but what exactly does a 1st base coach do other than pat a player on the butt when he gets on at 1st base?

wjones

October 14th, 2010
9:50 am

“jerry

October 14th, 2010
9:16 am
When TP was a player he once told a reporter that he did not watch the game when he was not playing because it was boring.”

Yes, I remember that comment, and I hoped it was as embarrasing to the Braves as it was to me. Not a great PR move for the “leader” of the team, and what an insulting thing to say (indirectly) about his fans. So when he was hired onto the coaching staff, I was very surprised. I am also glad he didn’t get the manager’s job–give him one of the minor league managing jobs first, to see if his “boredom” is still intact. I am a firm believer in managers “cutting their teeth” in the minors before they are handed a big league job.

wjones

October 14th, 2010
9:55 am

“Jesse Stone

October 14th, 2010
9:44 am
I spoke to Brandon Hyde last night, who was the Marlions bench coach after Fredi was fired. He says the whole staff is in flux because they hear the FG may be bringing a few of his guys to Atlanta.”

Well, if I understand it correctly, there is only one opening left.

Sowega Sam

October 14th, 2010
10:01 am

I agree with another of the “commenters” about TP.

I was afraid the guy was going to be the next manager.

I could not see any reason for him being kept for so long unless they had that kind of plan for him.

Thank God someone had better sense.

Now that the bat has been taken from his hand, it’s time to put a tomahawk in it and bring back the teepee.

mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache

October 14th, 2010
10:14 am

@JESSE, You can be a good to great player, but that does not equate to being a good to great coach. At whatever the position or batting experience. The great Ted Williams never was a hitting coach.

Jesse Stone

October 14th, 2010
10:24 am

mark bradley’s 70’s fro and mustache

October 14th, 2010
10:14 am
@JESSE, You can be a good to great player, but that does not equate to being a good to great coach. At whatever the position or batting experience. The great Ted Williams never was a hitting coach
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SadDawg

October 14th, 2010
10:25 am

Didn’t Hub get paid for all of his years with the Braves? Fredi is the new guy, and he wants his own assistants. What’s the problem?

DoninTococca/78

October 14th, 2010
10:30 am

I too watched Hubbard time and again take fumble finger infielders and turn them into good infielders. Sorry he had to go. Glad TP is moving
on up and now let’s watch and see what type of team Fredi will bring to us next year. Oh, not sure Leo is now a good fit. Won’t make or brake us, I’m just saying …

butch

October 14th, 2010
10:36 am

It’s understandable about TP at least. He was the slickest infielder I ever saw. The Cardinals were the top in that dept and when he came over to the Braves he was playing at another level compared to the other Braves infielders.

DMac

October 14th, 2010
10:41 am

Keep Pendleton and fire Hubbard? Can you say “affirmative action move?” They both should have been given the boot!!! The Braves were bad in fielding and in hitting, so why not sack both coaches? Oh, I remember now. Pendleton is a minority and thus untouchable no matter how much he sucks at his job.

meh

October 14th, 2010
10:45 am

how about Andres Gallaragha

Natasha

October 14th, 2010
10:46 am

Okay, guys – a insight from a gal with a bit of Braves history…

Hubbard is a low key guy and probably wanted to leave when Cox retired. It’s part of what happens with these oltimers that have been around together for as long as they have.

Snitker has been with the organization since the 70’s, worked his way through the Braves organization … first MB Pelicans Mgr, at M Braves when Francour and others were called up, and then to Richmond as Mgr. Again, another low profile kind of guy.

Fredi knows all these guys. Hopefully TP can overcome his bad image, which is mainly his fault. It’s probably do or die for TP and he knows it, his last shot to prove himself so he can move on or out.

You are more than welcome Guys!

DOYLE LIPSCOMB

October 14th, 2010
10:56 am

I THINK ANY ONE OF THESE GUYS WOULD BE A GREAT HITTING COACH,,MILT THOMPSON,,CHRIS CHAMBLISS,,DON BAYLOR AND GREG WALKER

Phil

October 14th, 2010
10:56 am

HEY DOB…Please give us an update on Hubbard firing…there has got to be a story behind the story…this really undercuts the positive vibes that came with the Gonzales hiring.

Eddie

October 14th, 2010
10:58 am

Comfort has a great deal to do with hirings at any level. For example, our President is hiring the guy he plays basketball with at lunch to a very important Secretary-level job in the Department of Defense.

Jesse Stone

October 14th, 2010
11:00 am

Who did Hubbard turm into a Gold Glove infielder? Perry Hill, who was with the Marlins prior to Fredi, was a good infield instructor.

Mike

October 14th, 2010
11:04 am

Maybe we’ll actually steal some bases now…

Jesse Stone

October 14th, 2010
11:05 am

When we had someone like Otis or Furcal, we stole bases. If we get good basestealers, we’ll steal bases.

Raymond

October 14th, 2010
11:21 am

I think that Terry Pendleton should have been the one let go, instead of Glen Hubbard. The Braves faultered during the last month of the season and lost in the series due to lack of hitting and no run production. So why should Glenn Hubbard lose his job because of this?

Gwinnett Fred

October 14th, 2010
11:23 am

Have to agree that Hubby’s departure was greatly influenced by the late season collapse of the defense, and to that end, it’s hard to argue.

However, to not find a spot in the organization for him is pathetic IMO. Forget them “finding” a spot for him, teams don’t dismiss some one one day and hire them back the next (with the exception of George Steinbrenner of course).

We’ll miss you Glenn!

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October 14th, 2010
11:26 am

[...] might improve next year. One would mean trading the young, talented starter Jair Jurrjens. Also, Glenn Hubbard doesn’t make new coach Fredi Gonzalez’s list as coaches to [...]

Gwinnett Fred

October 14th, 2010
11:26 am

Doyle,

Milt Thompson??? Are you serious?? He couldn’t keep his job in Philly with a totally STACKED lineup and you expect him to be a good hire as hitting coach here with this group of ping hitters??

J T at Capital

October 14th, 2010
11:26 am

T.P. Did a good job compared to what he had to work with the Braves led the league in errors. Everybody love huddy somebody had to go so ax fell on him.

Dave the fool

October 14th, 2010
11:28 am

Dave

October 13th, 2010
9:36 pm

Yes, keep the hitting coach that no one uses because he only makes your swing worse but fire the guy who made Giles and Prado great infielders. Jesse Jackson must have threatened a march or something

Dave, you ignorant fool. Prado hits over .300, you give no credit to the hitting coach. Prado is a good fielder, you give credit to the position coach.

Dave, that is why you are an uninformed, ignorant racist fool

glord1

October 14th, 2010
11:29 am

coo coo bird fan

October 14th, 2010
9:15 am
When Bobby Cox was hired he had a losing record, so much for that theory about Freddi. The chances of us finding another coach to last 25 yrs arent good

Bobby Cox had a losing record when he left too……In the playoffs.

mudcat

October 14th, 2010
11:32 am

Hubbard had to go. These Braves can’t field worth a damned and changes had to be made. Glad TP is coming back. This guy Tosca is suppose to be solid. Just hope the hitting coach is as capable. I think Fredi already knows who he wants but is going through the motions for PR reasons.

Weave

October 14th, 2010
11:34 am

Many of you are associating Fredi with the decision to fire Glenn; might want to evaluate Mr. Frank Wren and his decisions.

Gwinnett Fred

October 14th, 2010
11:40 am

Weave,

You don’t think, just possibly, during the meetings Wren had with Gonzalez in September his opinions of who should stay & who should go weren’t addressed?

Come on – Fredi was the Braves manager from the second he was fired in Florida and these moves are all either instigated by him or fully approved by him.

Line Drive

October 14th, 2010
11:43 am

4 Players who cannot be brought back for 2011…..and I don’t think any of them are tied to us because of contract status…….Ankiel, Diaz, Glaus and Cabrera…..MUST BE LET GO

If you have to, you can trade McCann to an AL team as a catcher/DH and hopefully get back a RH OF with sock….I am pretty sure you can find 2 catchers to replace McCann who will be a lot better at the position

Terrence Moore

October 14th, 2010
11:48 am

That’s right peeps, TP a black man, we gunna keeps him around. Ain’t gunna keep no honky boy like Glen Hubbard round no more. They let go a TP I’ms gunna get my boy Al Sharpton down here with my main man Jesse J and light some fires, wouldn’t be fiar if the let a black man go!

Natasha

October 14th, 2010
11:49 am

Yep, go figure, you guys don’t listen to your wive’s either.

I’m telling ya, Hubbard was not axed!

braves fan

October 14th, 2010
11:51 am

@LINE DRIVE: OMG are you high!?!? Trade our 5 time all-star and hometown boy McCann for an OF bat!?!? WOW youre an idiot, you probably voted for Obama too didn’t you? Didn’t you?!?!? You probably have cats in your house too, don’t ya!?! Yeah, i know your type, youre the guy i get behind in traffic a few times a week. Nice bumper stickers, “CoExist” man!

Natasha

October 14th, 2010
11:52 am

@ Terrence

Mr Aaron is rolling his eyes at you right now

Line Drive

October 14th, 2010
12:11 pm

Bravesfan….I have no cats, I did not vote for Obama…anyway, There is a good chance we could get more than a RH OF bat with sock for McCann, perhaps a catcher also in the deal….the Braves need to trade McCann while he still has some market value….you need to give something to get something back.

Jim

October 14th, 2010
12:15 pm

Hey braves fan,

Yes, that was a stupid idea to trade Brian McCann. So why bring politics into it? I could care less what your politcs are. You are just dying to let someone know what you think though. And as for the comment about your daily commute, you let me know which self centered ass you are out on the road every morning. I am real sorry that the person with the sticker on their car is slowing you down from getting to your job at Burger King.

Sid

October 14th, 2010
12:29 pm

Glad to see TP is no longer the hitting instructor. Hubbard was probably a victim of the team’s atrocious fielding in the playoffs. Can’t wait to see who they bring in as TP’s replacement.

Bird Dog

October 14th, 2010
12:31 pm

The Curse of Glen Hubbard is now in place

Bill

October 14th, 2010
12:43 pm

I am glad Hubbard is gone, He should have fired Sticker too.Hubbard did a lousey job with the infield this year.If they would have put Hubbard in at 3rd base in place of strick would have been fine.

Meatlake

October 14th, 2010
12:45 pm

Sorry to hear about G. Hubbard but understand that a new mgr. can bring in his own people. Knew Glenn on a limit basis years ago,(coached one of his children in baseball)and he and his wife both were very nice, friendly and down to earth people. He was very helpful to me and a true gentleman. I’m sure he won’t have a problem finding a new job, but he will be missed by at least one Braves fan. Thanks Glen for your service as a player and coach and you will be missed. Also, congratulations Fredi and let’s go get em’.

Ron

October 14th, 2010
12:45 pm

Braves had an amazing year considering the hitting was horrible and so was the defense. Lots of injuries really hurt. Now we know how the Mets feel. Our pitching is good but not great. Watching the last 20 games, we seldom had a 3 up 3 down inning, even with our best pitchers in the game. Yet, when we batted, we often went 3 and out, so weakly. I cannot recall a decent team with so few bats in the lineup. I can recall when even weak hitting infielders hit 15 homers. For an outfeilder to hit under 20 is a complete disgrace. Even Heyward, a sure future star who has plenty of power, hit very few homers. Face it, we suck with the bats. Suck. Our infield defense killed us after the all star break, too.

Pitiful.

booney

October 14th, 2010
12:53 pm

So who becomes the hitting coach?

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October 14th, 2010
1:00 pm

Line Drive

Your dreaming if you think they will trade McCann. Same with people saying the same with Heyward. Not sure what world you guys are living in!

Reid Adair

October 14th, 2010
1:00 pm

As long as Fredi Gonzalez makes the decision on a hitting coach and Frank Wren stays out of it, things should be fine.

PALADIN DEATH DEALER

October 14th, 2010
1:01 pm

SHAME THE WAY THEY DID HUBBARD….THE ATLANTA BRAVES CLASS ALWAYS SHOWS, JUST KICKED OLE HUBBARD TO THE CURB….THOUGHT FREDI WAS GONNA BE FINE UNTIL HE PULLS THAT BONEHEAD MOVE….ALL ABOUT FRIENDSHIPS….NOT ABOUT WHO CAN GET THE JOB DONE….GOOD LUCK, HUB, YOU WENT THE SAME WAY GLAVINE AND SMOLTZ DID…..

?

October 14th, 2010
1:02 pm

Terrence Moore

LOL

?

October 14th, 2010
1:03 pm

PALADIN DEATH DEALER

I felt the same way until I thought of our GREAT fielding we showed.

?

October 14th, 2010
1:05 pm

booney

They should see if they can work out a deal for Rudy Jaramillo with the cubs!

Chop Chop

October 14th, 2010
1:06 pm

Well, I’m expecting ten more wins next season. The Donk is no more.

Jim Adams

October 14th, 2010
1:18 pm

Hate to see Hubby go. What the Braves need most is a hitting instructor named Baylor, at any cost.

Southpaw

October 14th, 2010
1:18 pm

Gerald Perry is a proven hitting instructor. I hope he’s on the short list. It seems Hubbard would at least stay in the organization, in the minors.

braves fan

October 14th, 2010
1:19 pm

Jim, I am the guy honking at you while you swurve bc Line Drive’s head is in your lap. You can coexist too Obama lover. Meow!

bill

October 14th, 2010
1:20 pm

Tosca? what hispanic gets the next job Just kidding I wore 17 for years in softball because of Hubbard

Steve

October 14th, 2010
1:27 pm

I agree out of all the moves that were made. I don’t understand the Hubbard one? I mean the guy is a Brave lifer?

Rick B

October 14th, 2010
1:34 pm

As a Braves fan for over 50 years the “firing” of Glen Hubbard has to be one of the lowest things I have ever witnessed by this organization. As a player he was willing to do anything to help his team win and as a coach he dedicated himself to the organization. How you can simply discard someone with this much team history is beyond me.

Good Luck Hubby! You will always be one of my favorite Braves.

59bulldawg

October 14th, 2010
1:45 pm

Have to agree . . . I’ll miss Hubbard. Surely there’s a place somewhere in the organization for him.

mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache

October 14th, 2010
2:10 pm

@LINE DRIVE, What falvor of koolaide are you drinking????

mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache

October 14th, 2010
2:10 pm

flavor, soory 4 the typo

TP=useless

October 14th, 2010
2:37 pm

Certainly don’t here about the wonderful things TP is doing. Frenchy our top prospect goes outside the organization to get help on his swing??

Not surprised though. With activists calling for more African Americans in baseball the last thing the Braves are going to do is fire TP. I mean, they have hispanics, oriental, and AA so they should be ok. Next thing ya know though the women’s right activists will be here screaming that their should be a woman bench coach.

Hey Ozzie wanna know why they don’t provide translators for hispanic players but do for oriental players??? Because half of every team is hispanic you ignorant A hole!!! Why would they pay for an interepretor if half the team already speaks the language?!?!?!?

TP=useless

October 14th, 2010
2:38 pm

Let’s fire Hubbard because the infield struggled the last half of the season but keep TP because the hitters were obviously knocking the cover off the ball!!!

Actually

October 14th, 2010
2:43 pm

Trading McCann doesn’t sound that stupid. You do not need a good hitting catcher to win. You need a game changing hitter in the middle of your order. You need a guy that is going to hit 40/120. There are plenty of adequate catchers out there.

reckingball

October 14th, 2010
2:45 pm

@9:43am………… Easily replaceable.

reckingball

October 14th, 2010
2:48 pm

McCann is a player that people buy tickets to see him play, just like Chipper is, and Heyward is going to be.

randy little

October 14th, 2010
2:55 pm

atlanta sux GLENN HUBBARD should be manager it just goes to show why atlanta is still loserville I love baseball sell the braves to IRAN

ripcord

October 14th, 2010
3:04 pm

GREG WALKER !!!!!!! HITTING COACH….Why Not?

Hope Hubby lands a job with another club. Super person and Coach.

Lew

October 14th, 2010
3:13 pm

All good moves so far, I like TP but am glad to see him switch to base coach where his talents can be used more. Has anyone looked at Chipper? Now let’s start looking at players: time for Glaus to retire, he looks as if he can hardly walk; good-by McCloth and Cabrera and take Gonzales with you. I have my doubts about Lee. I have always liked him but the last few years the bat is gone. Conrad needs to shape up and play his game instead of being fancy. The rest of the field I look forward to watching next year. The pitching staff is great but I know some will go. I pray Bobby will have a blessed retirement.

welcome mat

October 14th, 2010
3:22 pm

Terry Pendleton should really be named Crusty. It looks like a fortune is spent on sunflower seeds and drinks for everybody to slurp. Every time you looked in the dugout most of the players were gobbling down seeds and swilling drinks. Pendleton must have spit over 500 seeds a game. No wonder everybody is fat and out of shape. Jones needs a good enema or something. One of those big yellow headed ones.

Choppinmama

October 14th, 2010
3:23 pm

Fredi, TP and DOB will take great offense to those calling their rides “scooters.” Those are snarling, pipe-rattling crotch rockets.

hornblowermg

October 14th, 2010
3:41 pm

you people who selectively remember TP’s history with the braves seem to forget his base running in that first world series against Minnesota. it scares me that he is now a base coach. as much as i like the Hub, it was time for him and TP to go away and make room for someone who will teach fundamentals to players who shouldn’t need to be taught fundamentals at this level,

Paul

October 14th, 2010
3:42 pm

It’s about time the Braves replace TP with a new hitting coach. I’ve been wanting this for the last 3 or 4 years. Sad to see Hubby go though. I enjoyed watching him play for all those years with the Braves and liked having him on the staff. He’ll be missed.

ijudgenot

October 14th, 2010
4:00 pm

I too was surprised by Hubbard firing instead of Snitker, but I was unaware that he was in charge of the defensive play for the whole infield. I knew that because he was a 2nd baseman, that he would work with the 2nd baseman. If he was in charge of fixing the infield players problems in fielding like Penndleton was in charge of fixing the hitters problems in hitting, then it was obvious that with he lack of hiting and the increase in errors, a change was needed at both positions. It obviously came down to a numbers game. Gonzalez wanted to bring some people from Florida with him so someone on the team had to go. Snitker and Penndleton were obviously closer friends with Gonzalez than Hubbard. Wren probably made call on McDowell and Perez, because McDowell was not here when Gonzalez was coaching.

ijudgenot

October 14th, 2010
4:16 pm

I find it hard to believe the Braves would trade McCann, as he is the face of the future with Heyward and Freeman, but I still find it odd that the Braves extended Ross’s contract in the middle of the season.
You usually do that with a front line player not a backup player.

ijudgenot

October 14th, 2010
4:23 pm

DOB, great to hear, hope you are right.

rammerjammer

October 14th, 2010
4:24 pm

DOB,

Any more talk about Prado and the outfield? Remember Bobby said he could play there.

KJones

October 14th, 2010
4:35 pm

I am just like a lot of you guys< I am very unhappy wiith Glenn Hubbard gone, and still have the likes of TP still being around. It is a fact that he was not a hitting coach, and I doubts about him being the first base coach. Someone mentioned something about it being a racial thing with TP. This is not about race. It is about working with the hitters and making sure they know what to do everytime they go to bat. I just hope whoever they get as a hitting coach that he or she will work with McLouth, and all of the other dudes who are always striking at a pitch in the dirt.

It's a chopper to Chipper

October 14th, 2010
5:09 pm

I like the Milt Thompson idea.

Reliving 1995

October 14th, 2010
5:21 pm

All these comments raving about the first base coach…Hubbard or Pendleton. Both are part of the Braves past. We admire and appreciate them both for their contributions. But this is about the future. I’d let the worst Brave signing of all time (I’m going Nick Esasky) coach first if we can get back to 100 win seasons and more than one playoff round. Come on, folks. The Giants best hitter (Burrell) couldn’t make the Phillies lineup and wasn’t re-signed. Let’s talk about improving our lineup which has maybe two legitimate playoff caliber hitters McCann and Heyward (if JHey continues to work through the holes in his swing and doesn’t become another Franceour) in a division with the Phillies. Look at their lineup versus ours. First base coach doesn’t matter if all he’s doing most innings is taking the helmet and batting gloves to the dugout from the third out with no one on base.

welcome mat

October 14th, 2010
6:09 pm

I hope FG makes those rascals exercise and get in shape. Part of their daily routine should include a fleet enema and a good swift foot to the lower torso. Jones needs a cattle prod put to his butt. Same goes for Melky, ss Gonzales, and even Diaz ought to get a little pop to. In fact the whole bunch ought to have a pack of M80’s stuck in their rears.

TomaHawkSINCE-81

October 14th, 2010
6:20 pm

Some of the comments here are UNBELIEVABLE!!. They win 100 games next year r jus get 2 the playoffs maybe the NLCS, Everybody will be back on board. Even the ridiculous ones.
Race,Politics, Really,REALLY? State your foolishness,but If your BRAVES Fans IT IS WHAT IT IS!!!!

german

October 14th, 2010
8:15 pm

hubb is my moms neighbor, his house burned down a few years ago and the whole community went over to help. real stand up guy. One of the few big leaguers who dont big league ( baseball people will get this ) he didn’t really know me and offered to throw bp at andrews house.

When your starting 3rd baseman and 2nd baseman go down to injury (after the all star break) , and ownership (liberty) is too cheap to get some outside help. What else do you think would happen. Hmm lets make hubb the scapegoat

Smiling Jack

October 14th, 2010
8:44 pm

Glad to see not much has changed on this blog except the new Braves manager…Haters…second guessers, know it alls have lit out after the new manager! It’s like a bunch of hounds after the fox!WOW! It’s only been one day since he came on the job! God, life is good….what would Fredi do without this bunch?

Taudawg

October 14th, 2010
8:55 pm

Joe Tess,

Pretty dumb comment base solely on some numbers and no homework. Understand situations before you post. You are either just bitter or like to be contrary. Put 99% of the managers at the helm today in Florida during the same time and you would get pretty much the same result or worst. I honestly don’t know anyone that could have done better. A manager can’t catch em, throw em or hit em.

Study up on why he was fired, not that he was fired. Torre was fired. Is he a bum? Girardi at NY was fired from his previous team……. is he a bum? A owner that consistantly dumps payroll and has a conflict with a manager because the prized player might get his feelings hurt. The Braves got a steal.

IMHO this is a great hire. We will improve under Fedi and the change won’t be so drastic.

Please do your homework before you post really dumb stuff.

gotigers72

October 15th, 2010
12:10 am

Sorry to see Hubbard go. He was a class act and I enjoyed watching him as a player. Glad TP decided to stay on board.

jj

October 15th, 2010
4:13 am

Why is it JJ that is trade-bait?Here we go again,first the guys in Texas,no,first Justice,Grissom,and Dye,then Escabor and Blanco and the one’s I have forgotten.Why not Hanson,I am quite sure we coul;d get a great return for him?I don’t really want either one of these guys to be traded ,but why is the first one’s to be brougt up Black or Brown?How about getting Chip to retire and let the Braves use that mony to bring some players in here that Freddie can use.I love the service Chipper has given this franchise but he hasn’t given a full years work for a long time and now with another injury,can the Braves count on him,especially with the price he’s extracting oput of the payroll.He is a HOF,so do the TEAM a favor and let them use THE MONY.

egr

October 15th, 2010
10:52 am

TP is a good guy thats why.

bfred

October 15th, 2010
6:17 pm

Conrad was not Hubbard’s fault. One of the raps on him during his extensive minor-league career was marginal defense. Given Hubbard’s tenure with the team I would have kept him at third over Snitker. It’s at worst an even swap and a nod to all the players and fans who love the guy.

As for TP, no he does not hold the bat but how players approach a plate appearance is very much part of his coaching. Late in game 4 I saw waaaaaay too many first-pitch swings at stuff out of the zone. Coaching hitting is not just mechanics, it’s strategy.

Johnny

October 15th, 2010
6:32 pm

CHRIS CHAMBLISS for hitting coach…. why not?

scott

October 16th, 2010
8:55 am

Pendleton’s should have lost his job .

TydeFan

October 16th, 2010
9:23 am

Pendleton to first base/infield coach? I guess that means we will start getting more people thrown out and more errors in the infield. I liked Hubbard, but I guess he was a victim of the NAACP/ACLU crowd in this politically correct world.

Mutts

October 16th, 2010
12:41 pm

The 2010 Braves made the playoffs with a team decimated by injuries to key players, so how bad a job could everyone associated with this team have done? This was a great year and very exciting. The Braves have a good nucleus to build on, so I’m excited about 2011 and beyond. GO BRAVES!

rick p

October 16th, 2010
7:04 pm

Yeah, we are really gonna miss that 1B coach. Those are hard to find

Cmon– that’s a patronage position that you KNOW you arent hanging onto when your patron leaves. Hub should be happy he was on the gravy train for that long. Tp must bring something to the table though I cant imagine what. Heyward should be the hitting coach. Ive never seen a Braves team under Cox display patience like this year’s team (other than Chip who really cant do much else these days)

That is facetious to some extent but I hope they get a hitting coach that advocates something like what they did this year

Release of Hubbard is pathetic....

October 16th, 2010
8:07 pm

Easy to see why Fredi was failure in Florida. Send TP packing not Hubby.

I guess Glen was too White Anglo or at least simply too shut up and did his job.

Smitty

October 17th, 2010
8:29 pm

Enter your comments here

Smitty

October 17th, 2010
8:31 pm

Whu not hire Chipper’s dad as hitting coach? That’s where he goes when he is struggling.

Melky Cabrera

October 18th, 2010
4:40 am

When does spring training start? See ya’ll then!

Dwayne

October 18th, 2010
12:02 pm

People, hitting stunk…period. TP was firstbase coach when Fredi was at 3rd. Hubby will find another job. It will be ok, I promise. I do not blame hubby for late season feilding woes, Conrad, a career minor leauger and Infante/Glaus on 3rd. Veteren Gonzolez on short(no excuse for him). No wonder the game was given to SF, Heyward didn’t hit, just a rookie. Life goes on.

Roger

October 18th, 2010
5:45 pm

Yes, that’s what we’ll do. We’ll kick Hubbard out and let TP coach first. He’s done so great with all our hitters. Yeah right!! Shame on you Braves for letting Glenn Hubbard go. What a classless move!!

Roger Ball

October 18th, 2010
6:21 pm

It’s time to bring Jose “NACHI” Castro from the Mariners….He works great the hitters, and well liked by the players. He also coached with Fredi during the Marlins early years in the minors. He has come a long ways, and this past season manage the Mariners AAA team to the championship…….

Ronald Esarey

October 20th, 2010
6:53 am

Iets get it right on Hubbard !! Hubs was let go to keep TP.

Ronald Esarey

October 20th, 2010
7:15 am

WE are going to miss Bobby Cox! I know he had some haters , however his body of work was outstanding . We didnt get the great farm system by accident Bobby built it. Besides being a Hall Of Fame Manager he is a great people person to not only the players but the fans as well. Good Luck Bobby in your retirement.

jackyldo

October 20th, 2010
7:32 am

what is it with torn thumb ligaments this year ?
Red Sox had Youkilis and Salty both need ligament surgery and it seems 1-2 other players around the league too.

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October 20th, 2010
5:07 pm

TO: Release of Hubbard is pathetic….Your comment from October 16th, 2010 at 8:07 pm was beyond stupid. What did Hubbard do that couldn’t be done by anyone else let alone TP? I think that’s the reason why he was expendable. Braves defense was awful all year and not just in the playoffs so he certainly wasn’t a factor there and we rarely stole bases or tried to take the extra base so besides holding batting gloves or hitting equipment after a single, I’m not sure what Hubby actually contributed. May as well be TP coaching first as anyone else.

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