And Fredi’s next task, I suggest, would be to tell Melky, “since you’re more interested in eating melk-duds then being a productive player, don’t let the door hit you on the way out….Go laugh and act all goofy and stupid when you make bonehead playes for someone else….”
I can’t believe they would just throw yosemite sam out like that… Glen was a part of this braves team long long before frank. I don’t agree with the hiring of frank…but then…they did so I’m behind him… I think someone closer would have been better…but it’s still going to be hard to think of was the last year of the braves and next year, will be the braves without Bobby… crazy… BUT I do wish Bobby all the best…and of course the bravos… THEY ARE OUR TEAM…
I don’t understand why so many people here want Chipper as hitting coach. Did I miss something?
Great natural talents often make lousy instructors. Not to mention the hitting coach’s salary is probably Chipper’s budget line item for shotgun shells at his ranch.
RJ DAWG:
HOPE YOU DON’T REALLY BELIEVE THAT WAS WHY HUBBARD WAS FIRED….IT WAS ABOUT OLD FRIENDS WHO RODE MOTORCYCLES TOGETHER TO THE BALLPARK…..FREDI, I THOUGHT, WAS A GOOD HIRE, BUT ON HIS FIRST DAY ON THE JOB HE SHOWS THAT HE WILL STICK A GREAT AND LIFE LONG BRAVE IN THE BACK….IF HUBBARD WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR 12 YEARS WITH COX, CERTAINLY HE CAN FIT IN SOMEWHERE WITH THE NEW GROUP….WHAT IS COX’S LOYALTY TO TO HUBBARD? DISAPPOINTED IN BOBBY COX IN THIS REGARD ALSO….SEEMS AS IF THERE WERE SEVERAL OF THE UPPER ECHELON BRAVES WITH KNIVES IN THE BACK ON HUBBARD…MAYBE THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT….I TOLD HUBBARD TO BUY HIM A SCOOTER AND RIDE WITH THE BOYS TO THE BALL PARK EVERYDAY….NOW ITS DONE COST HIM HIS JOB…..
Maybe Hubbard wanted out along with Bobby. He had been in the organization for so long, maybe wanted to either take a break or look for some other job elsewhere.
It’s clear that Hubbard was not retained because of the lack of quality defense. He was the infield coach and there were far too many errors all around the infield this year. It probably costed us about 5-7 games…and that means the division.
TP was a 3 time gold glover, a really solid fielder, so he will definitely be working a lot with guys like infante, conrad, freeman, and gonzalez (i think chipper can handle himself).
Glad McDowell is staying. He revolutionized Derek Lowe and really helped Tommy Hanson (he just got no run support)
The south is overridden with politics and good ole boy type deals that keep underachieving people in jobs. Hubbard sucked, okay? Is that enough reason for you? Did you happen to watch and see our infield choke away games this season? Hubbard obviously has a huge family/friends support group on here complaining. F ‘em!
Damn, we should of sent TP down the river. Love the Gonzo hire. Someone said they had to keep TP cause it was a “race” thing. That’s dumb! I don’t care what color you are, if you are no good at your job then you should lose it!
TP sucks at anything was always lazy and over weight was not even considered for the hall after retirement which means he was and under achiever was basically means he sucks:::: We all know Hubby was the man more guts than TP ever had not a hall of famer but definitly a hell of a competitor. Terry got where he is because Hank has a say damn a team that dont have a black leader god knows Jesse and NAACP would have had a fit! Thanks Freddy you are an A!! an a a!! kissing F-ER if your going to manage you have to make hard decisions? You had a choice but you demonstrated that you are not a leader but and A!!. Look at KJ he had a great year look at what Heyward did he was afraid to swing the bat should have had a better year by far. Look at J F was a hell of a hitter before TP totally F-ed him up. Hope he turns it around like K J. Terry is a loser in every way Freddie you will be a loser too! YOu are and A####$$$ kisser you F!
I don’t understand the dislike for TP.I think FG has a right to pick his staff as any new CEO would and I believe it is important to feel comfortable with those you chose to work with you.Good luck Freddie and I wish you would have had the chance to manage some of the Players that were traded this year for HR hitters that never hit any when they came to The ATL but didn’t do much of anything else also.I hope our 3rd baseman is able to give you a year that matches his salary and I hope our SS learn to not complain to the umphs so much because I know The Jays want take him back because they have a former Brave that was accused of doing some of the same things and was shipped and believe it or not he was probably a better player.Freddie you came a year or two to late to save this TEAM but I believe if The GM,who I believe did all he could do to help BC,and Liberty Media ainte up,you can win.Good luck Freddie and GO BRAVES….
October 13th, 2010
10:35 pm
You people who blame TP are ignorant to how baseball works.
Don’t quit your day jobs.”
gcs…. most people who are working their day jobs know how the day job works…. the same as baseball with a couple of exceptions. It’s the same in that TP and Fredi are tight so TP still has a job although he failed miserably at his last position. Hubbard and Fredi aren’t tight so he paid for the failures associated with his responsibility by losing his job. So technically, you terminate one failure and replace him with another failure whose your bud!
Another thing different with the Braves and the day job. In the day job, someone would be terminated for consistently failing in their job. TP was retained after failing at his job.
A few random comments ON the comments I’m seeing posted — some fairly smart: (Milt Thompson? Jamie Dismuke? Those names have to be on the short list for hitting coach. That said, Jim Pressley is the name I hear the most.) And some not so smart: “TP is awful! Why is he still here?” etc.
While I love Glenn Hubbard and hate to see him go (as a Braves fan from the ’70s, how could I not feel that way?) I’m of the opinion that TP got a pretty bad, undeserved rap as hitting coach. After all, midseason the Braves led the league in OBP and for a while, were second in runs scored, and everyone was offering kudos for the patience displayed at the plate (something TP has preached for years). And yet, while TP got the blame for the late-season offensive fall-off (as Chipper, then Prado, exited the lineup, remember) he got no credit for when we were going well.
He’s a smart baseball man and always has been, and as I recall, when he came aboard in ‘91, he was basically hired for his glove at 3B (the 1990 Braves and the late 80s teams had error rates similar to this year’s squad — or worse). I always admired his fundamentals at the hot corner. So I think he’ll be fine coaching infielders, and I’m happy he’s still on the staff. And perhaps removing him as batting coach will give the yahoos one less thing to talk about and complain about.
Also, somebody joked about Greg Norton for hitting coach. Believe it or not, I don’t take that as a joke. Norton had an abysmal final season, no doubt, but that was largely because his bat speed decided to take a hike. (You get old; it happens.) But he had a rep in the clubhouse and around baseball as being amazingly smart, and more than a few players on the current squad credit him with improvements from advice he gave last year. Did you know he now manages the New Orleans Zephyrs, the Marllins’ AAA affiliate? I wouldn’t be surprised to see him in an opposing dugout very soon. Laugh if you want, but thinking he’s worthless just because he was nearly 0-for-2009 is definitely an uninformed perspective.
Could you give an update, regarding the contract status of the Braves’ 25 man roster, as of today?
(Who is already under contract for next year, arbitration eligible, and who is not.) Whould you care to do an article / blog speculating on where you this the personal may be by Srping Training?
I was shocked to see that Glenn Hubbard was dropped. He’s been a Brave for life, and to see him dumped on day one of a new administration caught me by surprise. I’m guessing Chino had to go because he managed every time Bobby Cox was ejected, and I think we won most of those games, so I guess Fredi didn’t want a competent second-guesser in the dugout.
well not too bad but could be better. get 3 yrs of freddi so i heard well if he last one and half be interesting. as i see part old braves are gone but hubbard he should still be there everyone else gone. as long as 2 big shot bosses are leading the braves i put us still in 3rd for next yr. chipper should be the hitting coach. or even smoltz. sure its normal new mgr wants some his old help but will it work? oh well braves see ya in spring.
Can’t you see folks, keeping TP and letting Hubbie go was an ethnic decision. If the Braves kept no black coaches, Obama would say they acted stupidly.
Hey guys I know who we need to wake this bats up. If you thing about it How bout Julio Franco. Remember. He was awsome during his times as a hittier and All around good Baseball Player for many years. Heck I Bet he could still Hit. B/c she stay in top shap. What ya think?
I love Leo Mazzone but he never achieved the same success after leaving the Braves. Well, then again, who wouldn’t be considered legendary coaching the likes of Smotz, Glavine and Maddux at the same time! Those three guys would turn anyone into a legend.
Chipper Jones would be a GREAT fit as a hitting coach. Many players, specially young would look up to him for guidance and support. Chipper, C’mon man, REALLY take this one for the team! CHIPPER CHIPPER CHIPPER.
I can’t believe you people are really so down on TP. No accounting for talent, but when any team fills its roster on the cheap, it gets what it has paid for. Pitching coaches and hitting coaches more likely than not take on the personality of their manager. The manager oversees all aspects of his team and gives his own ideas of how he wants things done. Atlanta has been…under Bobby Cox’s tenure…a passive non-agressive team. Instead of coaching to make things happen, he sits back and waits for things to happen. He micro-manages to the point that he calls every pitch and doesn’t give the green light often enough to his base stealers. The brave success over the years has been because of pitching. Seldomly have the braves lead the league in hitting. That’s Cox’s formula. It served him well…except in the post season. Now I agree it was time for a new voice. And a new hitting coach should be able to put his own stamp on the team…instead of just going with the status quo of his manager. However, I certainly do not believe that the Brave’s hitting woes should solely be the blame of the hitting coach…talent not withstanding.
really it don’t matter who the hitting coach is, you got to get some player in here who can play ball. now that Bobby has gone thank God maybe we will see ABC baseball.
I don’t want Melky on the team next year. PLEASE GET RID OF MELKY. HE CAN’T HIT OR FIELD. HE IS A TOTAL WASTE. PLEASE PLEASE HE IS THE WORST PEACE OF CRAP.
Did anyone stop to think that the decision to let Hubbard go was not solely on Fredi’s shoulders? Hello, Frank Wren is the General Manager. Too, maybe Hubbard had not expressed a desire to stay with the organization with Bobby retiring. I like Hubbard and I wish him well, but maybe the dude wants to go fishing or something
I supported Bobby Cox, and I will support Fredi Gonzalez. I have always liked him and I think he’s going to be a great Manager.
Not like I know Glenn Hubbard, but all Braves fans seem to share the sentiment. He appeared to be a good guy and certainly a pleasant individual. I’m quite sure that there’s more to it than meets the eye. Sad thing is, it’s the nature of that (or any) business.
“Dick” was right to a degree. If they had kept Hubbard and fired Pendleton, some would be crying rascism just as they complain about not enough AA in baseball, even though 12% of the population represents over 50% of pro sports atheletes. It is what it is. And it will never change.
You guys, I read your remarks! You are thinking like me now, and yeah can we get Escobar back for Gonzo? I still can’t believe this team trading a young talented short stop for an old one that made just as many errors or in some cases simply couldn’t reach the grounders to make an error. You don’t trade young pitchers with talent, too hard to come by. By the way would somebody tell Red to stop showing the ball before he throws it, like maybe keep it in the glove. He’s been giving away pitches for two years, and please make Chipper a pinch hitter (won’t get hurt as much), You have an infield minus the shortstop when everyone is back, or if you have to play Chippy, then move one of the two allstar infielders to short and trade sea bass. There’s a good first baseman coming out of the minors, but he didn’t show a lot when he was up this year, so he needs more experience.
I am hoping whomever is the new hitting coach knows how to instruct the guys on hitting. A shame Chino is gone. He was a couple players on the team’s translator.
October 13th, 2010
10:01 pm
I too don’t like the race card being thrown out in every situation these days… it just isn’t a black & white issue in most cases, and especially in this one. If you will think back TP and Fredi used to ride their scooters to the ballpark together most every day, but even with that I think that Fredi is a big enough guy and a stand-up guy and he’s not going to let things like that get into the way of doing his job… especially his new job.
It is sad to see Hub thrown to the curb after so many years in the organization… I know for a fact that the job he did at Macon was very good and not an easy situation. First of all, it’s Macon… who isn’t known for supporting any sports franchise… and secondly it’s so close to Atlanta that he had to have felt like somebody was looking over his shoulder all the time with a microscope.
He’s a good guy and he’ll do well in whatever he does, and who knows, he might be tired of the travel grind with him doing it for so long, and you’re coaching guys who are making 150 times what you’re making. Not a bad gig, and I’d love to ride that train for a while too, but the travel and being away from home and family for 7-8 months out of the year would get old
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Glenn Hubbard was never manager of the Macon Braves.
Glenn’s Job was infield defense, which was horrible this year and also it’s the 1st base coaches job to time the pitchers and indicate if our guys can steal. Hubbard was horrible at this. It seemed like our guys were always thrown out by 5 feet. Heck, Francoeur, who never stole bases here even stole some once he left. I’m glad Hubbard has been replaced. TP needs to get a stop watch and do a better job at getting our guys good jumps.
mr hubbard your class and dignity will be sorely missed.as i said to you on the escalator in chicago during the allstar game thank you for the way you represent the city and the atlanta braves
I don’t care for this notion that “because Freddi did such a good job with such a low payroll, he must be a good manager” nonsense. He may well turn out to be good, but the payroll in fla is no reflection of the kinda talent he had to work with. He had some of the best young arms in the game, and the likes of HanRam, Uggla, and others in the field/lineup. Very similar to how Joe Maddon (Rays) has one of the lowest payrolls in the AL, but it is rife with young talent across the board.
What a horriable thing to do to Hubbard! Terry approach to hitting will be the same to the infield. A monotoned approach. The team didnt respond to him as a hitting coach, so what makes them think that the team will change with him at the first base coach!!! It will have the same results. Snicker is still here? They let go the wrong man! I am not happy with the moves. Snicker, sorry for the misspell, is really bad at third. My have cost some games for us. I dont see TP as our guy. In any role….
When Bobby Cox was hired he had a losing record, so much for that theory about Freddi. The chances of us finding another coach to last 25 yrs arent good
The Braves took SEVEN rookies into the NLDS. They have serious problems at all levels of the everyday players. First, they badly need to just get rid of these over paid, non productive position players. Players such as Broke Ankle, MilkyDud, Lee, Glossedout, etc. have got too go. Surely there are better players available at the cheap Braves can afford. Sadly, Chipper’s day has come and he is costing them a small fortune. Those $18 million could be spent bringing in two or three decent players. But, Jones will be back. They have no 3dbaseman too replace him. They will have the kid at 1B next year. Gonzo will have one year on his contract I think, so stuck with him also. Diaz had a horrible season, injury or not. Even after he came back, he never got his average up. Jason will only get better. So, really, they need help at: 3B, SS, LF, CF, back up at 1B, 3B, SS, 2B. I guess the Fonz can still be the 2B next year, but I don’t see the same production. It was a career year. But, still .285 or so out of him would be good. Conrad is not an everyday player. We saw that in the play offs. No playoffs next year.
Andrew Jones and Jeff Franceurwere sluggers who all the sudden couldn’t hit. The Braves currently have 5 or 6 guys who have hit for 25 homers or more with other teams. Heyward was hitting balls out of the park in spring training but has been taught to hit down on the ball and just try to make contact. The only common denominator was our hitting coach. I think Terry will be good in his new role but so was Hubbard.
Funny how Bobby’s biggest criticism is his loyalty, and now people are pi$$ed at Fredi because he wasn’t loyal to a lifelong Brave (who played for Oakland as well). Hubbard was a first base coach and infield coordinator to a bad infield defense. Easily replaceable.
I spoke to Brandon Hyde last night, who was the Marlions bench coach after Fredi was fired. He says the whole staff is in flux because they hear the FG may be bringing a few of his guys to Atlanta.
October 14th, 2010
9:16 am
When TP was a player he once told a reporter that he did not watch the game when he was not playing because it was boring.”
Yes, I remember that comment, and I hoped it was as embarrasing to the Braves as it was to me. Not a great PR move for the “leader” of the team, and what an insulting thing to say (indirectly) about his fans. So when he was hired onto the coaching staff, I was very surprised. I am also glad he didn’t get the manager’s job–give him one of the minor league managing jobs first, to see if his “boredom” is still intact. I am a firm believer in managers “cutting their teeth” in the minors before they are handed a big league job.
October 14th, 2010
9:44 am
I spoke to Brandon Hyde last night, who was the Marlions bench coach after Fredi was fired. He says the whole staff is in flux because they hear the FG may be bringing a few of his guys to Atlanta.”
Well, if I understand it correctly, there is only one opening left.
@JESSE, You can be a good to great player, but that does not equate to being a good to great coach. At whatever the position or batting experience. The great Ted Williams never was a hitting coach.
October 14th, 2010
10:14 am
@JESSE, You can be a good to great player, but that does not equate to being a good to great coach. At whatever the position or batting experience. The great Ted Williams never was a hitting coach
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I too watched Hubbard time and again take fumble finger infielders and turn them into good infielders. Sorry he had to go. Glad TP is moving
on up and now let’s watch and see what type of team Fredi will bring to us next year. Oh, not sure Leo is now a good fit. Won’t make or brake us, I’m just saying …
It’s understandable about TP at least. He was the slickest infielder I ever saw. The Cardinals were the top in that dept and when he came over to the Braves he was playing at another level compared to the other Braves infielders.
Keep Pendleton and fire Hubbard? Can you say “affirmative action move?” They both should have been given the boot!!! The Braves were bad in fielding and in hitting, so why not sack both coaches? Oh, I remember now. Pendleton is a minority and thus untouchable no matter how much he sucks at his job.
Okay, guys – a insight from a gal with a bit of Braves history…
Hubbard is a low key guy and probably wanted to leave when Cox retired. It’s part of what happens with these oltimers that have been around together for as long as they have.
Snitker has been with the organization since the 70’s, worked his way through the Braves organization … first MB Pelicans Mgr, at M Braves when Francour and others were called up, and then to Richmond as Mgr. Again, another low profile kind of guy.
Fredi knows all these guys. Hopefully TP can overcome his bad image, which is mainly his fault. It’s probably do or die for TP and he knows it, his last shot to prove himself so he can move on or out.
HEY DOB…Please give us an update on Hubbard firing…there has got to be a story behind the story…this really undercuts the positive vibes that came with the Gonzales hiring.
Comfort has a great deal to do with hirings at any level. For example, our President is hiring the guy he plays basketball with at lunch to a very important Secretary-level job in the Department of Defense.
I think that Terry Pendleton should have been the one let go, instead of Glen Hubbard. The Braves faultered during the last month of the season and lost in the series due to lack of hitting and no run production. So why should Glenn Hubbard lose his job because of this?
Have to agree that Hubby’s departure was greatly influenced by the late season collapse of the defense, and to that end, it’s hard to argue.
However, to not find a spot in the organization for him is pathetic IMO. Forget them “finding” a spot for him, teams don’t dismiss some one one day and hire them back the next (with the exception of George Steinbrenner of course).
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Milt Thompson??? Are you serious?? He couldn’t keep his job in Philly with a totally STACKED lineup and you expect him to be a good hire as hitting coach here with this group of ping hitters??
T.P. Did a good job compared to what he had to work with the Braves led the league in errors. Everybody love huddy somebody had to go so ax fell on him.
Yes, keep the hitting coach that no one uses because he only makes your swing worse but fire the guy who made Giles and Prado great infielders. Jesse Jackson must have threatened a march or something
Dave, you ignorant fool. Prado hits over .300, you give no credit to the hitting coach. Prado is a good fielder, you give credit to the position coach.
Dave, that is why you are an uninformed, ignorant racist fool
October 14th, 2010
9:15 am
When Bobby Cox was hired he had a losing record, so much for that theory about Freddi. The chances of us finding another coach to last 25 yrs arent good
Bobby Cox had a losing record when he left too……In the playoffs.
Hubbard had to go. These Braves can’t field worth a damned and changes had to be made. Glad TP is coming back. This guy Tosca is suppose to be solid. Just hope the hitting coach is as capable. I think Fredi already knows who he wants but is going through the motions for PR reasons.
You don’t think, just possibly, during the meetings Wren had with Gonzalez in September his opinions of who should stay & who should go weren’t addressed?
Come on – Fredi was the Braves manager from the second he was fired in Florida and these moves are all either instigated by him or fully approved by him.
4 Players who cannot be brought back for 2011…..and I don’t think any of them are tied to us because of contract status…….Ankiel, Diaz, Glaus and Cabrera…..MUST BE LET GO
If you have to, you can trade McCann to an AL team as a catcher/DH and hopefully get back a RH OF with sock….I am pretty sure you can find 2 catchers to replace McCann who will be a lot better at the position
That’s right peeps, TP a black man, we gunna keeps him around. Ain’t gunna keep no honky boy like Glen Hubbard round no more. They let go a TP I’ms gunna get my boy Al Sharpton down here with my main man Jesse J and light some fires, wouldn’t be fiar if the let a black man go!
@LINE DRIVE: OMG are you high!?!? Trade our 5 time all-star and hometown boy McCann for an OF bat!?!? WOW youre an idiot, you probably voted for Obama too didn’t you? Didn’t you?!?!? You probably have cats in your house too, don’t ya!?! Yeah, i know your type, youre the guy i get behind in traffic a few times a week. Nice bumper stickers, “CoExist” man!
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The Abs Man
October 14th, 2010
12:32 am
And Fredi’s next task, I suggest, would be to tell Melky, “since you’re more interested in eating melk-duds then being a productive player, don’t let the door hit you on the way out….Go laugh and act all goofy and stupid when you make bonehead playes for someone else….”
Bob McHyman
October 14th, 2010
12:35 am
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Hy McBobman
October 14th, 2010
12:39 am
Well, that didn’t take long to start off on the wrong foot.
Fins and Chins
October 14th, 2010
12:41 am
any word on bringing in Leon Mazzonie
Not gonna happen. He’s having too much fun making an ass of himself on the radio with that moron Shmuck BooHoo.
Tnmurdock
October 14th, 2010
1:10 am
I can’t believe they would just throw yosemite sam out like that… Glen was a part of this braves team long long before frank. I don’t agree with the hiring of frank…but then…they did so I’m behind him… I think someone closer would have been better…but it’s still going to be hard to think of was the last year of the braves and next year, will be the braves without Bobby… crazy… BUT I do wish Bobby all the best…and of course the bravos… THEY ARE OUR TEAM…
Martin
October 14th, 2010
1:12 am
how about Hank Aaron or Dale Murphy as hitting coach? Fred McGriff???
braves fan
October 14th, 2010
1:15 am
I don’t understand why so many people here want Chipper as hitting coach. Did I miss something?
Great natural talents often make lousy instructors. Not to mention the hitting coach’s salary is probably Chipper’s budget line item for shotgun shells at his ranch.
PALADIN DEATH DEALER
October 14th, 2010
1:17 am
RJ DAWG:
HOPE YOU DON’T REALLY BELIEVE THAT WAS WHY HUBBARD WAS FIRED….IT WAS ABOUT OLD FRIENDS WHO RODE MOTORCYCLES TOGETHER TO THE BALLPARK…..FREDI, I THOUGHT, WAS A GOOD HIRE, BUT ON HIS FIRST DAY ON THE JOB HE SHOWS THAT HE WILL STICK A GREAT AND LIFE LONG BRAVE IN THE BACK….IF HUBBARD WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR 12 YEARS WITH COX, CERTAINLY HE CAN FIT IN SOMEWHERE WITH THE NEW GROUP….WHAT IS COX’S LOYALTY TO TO HUBBARD? DISAPPOINTED IN BOBBY COX IN THIS REGARD ALSO….SEEMS AS IF THERE WERE SEVERAL OF THE UPPER ECHELON BRAVES WITH KNIVES IN THE BACK ON HUBBARD…MAYBE THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT….I TOLD HUBBARD TO BUY HIM A SCOOTER AND RIDE WITH THE BOYS TO THE BALL PARK EVERYDAY….NOW ITS DONE COST HIM HIS JOB…..
iFrech
October 14th, 2010
1:34 am
Just thinking out loud…
Maybe Hubbard wanted out along with Bobby. He had been in the organization for so long, maybe wanted to either take a break or look for some other job elsewhere.
nelson
October 14th, 2010
1:40 am
nice job freddi ! don baylor next ….?
Chpatt
October 14th, 2010
1:49 am
It’s clear that Hubbard was not retained because of the lack of quality defense. He was the infield coach and there were far too many errors all around the infield this year. It probably costed us about 5-7 games…and that means the division.
TP was a 3 time gold glover, a really solid fielder, so he will definitely be working a lot with guys like infante, conrad, freeman, and gonzalez (i think chipper can handle himself).
Glad McDowell is staying. He revolutionized Derek Lowe and really helped Tommy Hanson (he just got no run support)
JASon
October 14th, 2010
2:23 am
The south is overridden with politics and good ole boy type deals that keep underachieving people in jobs. Hubbard sucked, okay? Is that enough reason for you? Did you happen to watch and see our infield choke away games this season? Hubbard obviously has a huge family/friends support group on here complaining. F ‘em!
matty brave
October 14th, 2010
2:36 am
Damn, we should of sent TP down the river. Love the Gonzo hire. Someone said they had to keep TP cause it was a “race” thing. That’s dumb! I don’t care what color you are, if you are no good at your job then you should lose it!
MIkega1965
October 14th, 2010
3:14 am
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MIkega1965
October 14th, 2010
3:26 am
TP sucks at anything was always lazy and over weight was not even considered for the hall after retirement which means he was and under achiever was basically means he sucks:::: We all know Hubby was the man more guts than TP ever had not a hall of famer but definitly a hell of a competitor. Terry got where he is because Hank has a say damn a team that dont have a black leader god knows Jesse and NAACP would have had a fit! Thanks Freddy you are an A!! an a a!! kissing F-ER if your going to manage you have to make hard decisions? You had a choice but you demonstrated that you are not a leader but and A!!. Look at KJ he had a great year look at what Heyward did he was afraid to swing the bat should have had a better year by far. Look at J F was a hell of a hitter before TP totally F-ed him up. Hope he turns it around like K J. Terry is a loser in every way Freddie you will be a loser too! YOu are and A####$$$ kisser you F!
bravesfannnnn1995
October 14th, 2010
3:45 am
WHAT ABOUT RUDY JARAMILLO?????
jj
October 14th, 2010
4:06 am
I don’t understand the dislike for TP.I think FG has a right to pick his staff as any new CEO would and I believe it is important to feel comfortable with those you chose to work with you.Good luck Freddie and I wish you would have had the chance to manage some of the Players that were traded this year for HR hitters that never hit any when they came to The ATL but didn’t do much of anything else also.I hope our 3rd baseman is able to give you a year that matches his salary and I hope our SS learn to not complain to the umphs so much because I know The Jays want take him back because they have a former Brave that was accused of doing some of the same things and was shipped and believe it or not he was probably a better player.Freddie you came a year or two to late to save this TEAM but I believe if The GM,who I believe did all he could do to help BC,and Liberty Media ainte up,you can win.Good luck Freddie and GO BRAVES….
Sucks To Be Glen Hubbard
October 14th, 2010
4:55 am
“gcs
October 13th, 2010
10:35 pm
You people who blame TP are ignorant to how baseball works.
Don’t quit your day jobs.”
gcs…. most people who are working their day jobs know how the day job works…. the same as baseball with a couple of exceptions. It’s the same in that TP and Fredi are tight so TP still has a job although he failed miserably at his last position. Hubbard and Fredi aren’t tight so he paid for the failures associated with his responsibility by losing his job. So technically, you terminate one failure and replace him with another failure whose your bud!
Another thing different with the Braves and the day job. In the day job, someone would be terminated for consistently failing in their job. TP was retained after failing at his job.
London Calling
October 14th, 2010
5:36 am
Amazing. It’s his first day on the job and already the board is full of hate for Fredi.
Is hate all some of you losers can do?
Reid in EAV
October 14th, 2010
6:08 am
A few random comments ON the comments I’m seeing posted — some fairly smart: (Milt Thompson? Jamie Dismuke? Those names have to be on the short list for hitting coach. That said, Jim Pressley is the name I hear the most.) And some not so smart: “TP is awful! Why is he still here?” etc.
While I love Glenn Hubbard and hate to see him go (as a Braves fan from the ’70s, how could I not feel that way?) I’m of the opinion that TP got a pretty bad, undeserved rap as hitting coach. After all, midseason the Braves led the league in OBP and for a while, were second in runs scored, and everyone was offering kudos for the patience displayed at the plate (something TP has preached for years). And yet, while TP got the blame for the late-season offensive fall-off (as Chipper, then Prado, exited the lineup, remember) he got no credit for when we were going well.
He’s a smart baseball man and always has been, and as I recall, when he came aboard in ‘91, he was basically hired for his glove at 3B (the 1990 Braves and the late 80s teams had error rates similar to this year’s squad — or worse). I always admired his fundamentals at the hot corner. So I think he’ll be fine coaching infielders, and I’m happy he’s still on the staff. And perhaps removing him as batting coach will give the yahoos one less thing to talk about and complain about.
Also, somebody joked about Greg Norton for hitting coach. Believe it or not, I don’t take that as a joke. Norton had an abysmal final season, no doubt, but that was largely because his bat speed decided to take a hike. (You get old; it happens.) But he had a rep in the clubhouse and around baseball as being amazingly smart, and more than a few players on the current squad credit him with improvements from advice he gave last year. Did you know he now manages the New Orleans Zephyrs, the Marllins’ AAA affiliate? I wouldn’t be surprised to see him in an opposing dugout very soon. Laugh if you want, but thinking he’s worthless just because he was nearly 0-for-2009 is definitely an uninformed perspective.
old man
October 14th, 2010
6:09 am
jj
October 14th, 2010
4:06 am
Best post award goes to you.
Sowega Sam
October 14th, 2010
6:15 am
Great move with the ?batting? coach!
Braves hitters have had nine years of no help, at all.
Good guy, perhaps —- hitting instructor, nada!
Charlie
October 14th, 2010
6:24 am
David O’Brian,
Could you give an update, regarding the contract status of the Braves’ 25 man roster, as of today?
(Who is already under contract for next year, arbitration eligible, and who is not.) Whould you care to do an article / blog speculating on where you this the personal may be by Srping Training?
rc35
October 14th, 2010
6:25 am
I was shocked to see that Glenn Hubbard was dropped. He’s been a Brave for life, and to see him dumped on day one of a new administration caught me by surprise. I’m guessing Chino had to go because he managed every time Bobby Cox was ejected, and I think we won most of those games, so I guess Fredi didn’t want a competent second-guesser in the dugout.
lin
October 14th, 2010
6:25 am
well not too bad but could be better. get 3 yrs of freddi so i heard well if he last one and half be interesting. as i see part old braves are gone but hubbard he should still be there everyone else gone. as long as 2 big shot bosses are leading the braves i put us still in 3rd for next yr. chipper should be the hitting coach. or even smoltz. sure its normal new mgr wants some his old help but will it work? oh well braves see ya in spring.
Hooter Girl
October 14th, 2010
6:54 am
Can’t you see folks, keeping TP and letting Hubbie go was an ethnic decision. If the Braves kept no black coaches, Obama would say they acted stupidly.
Bobby's Cox
October 14th, 2010
6:57 am
Chipper for hitting coach please!
Chipper’s Dad for hitting coach?
Bobby's Cox
October 14th, 2010
6:58 am
Should’ve dropped Snitker and kept Hubbard.
Thundersticks
October 14th, 2010
7:17 am
“The south is overridden with politics and good ole boy type deals that keep underachieving people in jobs.”
Yeah, this never happens up north or out west, just in the south.
Jimmy Carter
October 14th, 2010
7:25 am
Should have dropped TP and kept Hubbard!!
Edo River
October 14th, 2010
7:27 am
Hubbard should have been kept or offered something. That was cruel. TP should get experiences that will prepare him for management.
jase80
October 14th, 2010
7:31 am
Hey guys I know who we need to wake this bats up. If you thing about it How bout Julio Franco. Remember. He was awsome during his times as a hittier and All around good Baseball Player for many years. Heck I Bet he could still Hit. B/c she stay in top shap. What ya think?
Boca Baby
October 14th, 2010
7:35 am
I love Leo Mazzone but he never achieved the same success after leaving the Braves. Well, then again, who wouldn’t be considered legendary coaching the likes of Smotz, Glavine and Maddux at the same time! Those three guys would turn anyone into a legend.
BRAVOS FOR LIFE
October 14th, 2010
7:43 am
how can you guys want TP gone and not Hubbard.
I like Glen but the Braves defense was TERRIBLE
Hope
October 14th, 2010
7:46 am
Chipper Jones would be a GREAT fit as a hitting coach. Many players, specially young would look up to him for guidance and support. Chipper, C’mon man, REALLY take this one for the team! CHIPPER CHIPPER CHIPPER.
RGP
October 14th, 2010
7:46 am
Looks like Hubbard got the shaft. If anyone should have gotten canned it should have been TP based on results- our hitting was terrible.
Hope
October 14th, 2010
7:47 am
TP as a infield/field coach… You’ve gotta be kidding me!
Truisms
October 14th, 2010
7:53 am
I can’t believe you people are really so down on TP. No accounting for talent, but when any team fills its roster on the cheap, it gets what it has paid for. Pitching coaches and hitting coaches more likely than not take on the personality of their manager. The manager oversees all aspects of his team and gives his own ideas of how he wants things done. Atlanta has been…under Bobby Cox’s tenure…a passive non-agressive team. Instead of coaching to make things happen, he sits back and waits for things to happen. He micro-manages to the point that he calls every pitch and doesn’t give the green light often enough to his base stealers. The brave success over the years has been because of pitching. Seldomly have the braves lead the league in hitting. That’s Cox’s formula. It served him well…except in the post season. Now I agree it was time for a new voice. And a new hitting coach should be able to put his own stamp on the team…instead of just going with the status quo of his manager. However, I certainly do not believe that the Brave’s hitting woes should solely be the blame of the hitting coach…talent not withstanding.
dub366
October 14th, 2010
7:57 am
really it don’t matter who the hitting coach is, you got to get some player in here who can play ball. now that Bobby has gone thank God maybe we will see ABC baseball.
stew
October 14th, 2010
7:59 am
I don’t want Melky on the team next year. PLEASE GET RID OF MELKY. HE CAN’T HIT OR FIELD. HE IS A TOTAL WASTE. PLEASE PLEASE HE IS THE WORST PEACE OF CRAP.
bravesgrl4life
October 14th, 2010
8:08 am
Did anyone stop to think that the decision to let Hubbard go was not solely on Fredi’s shoulders? Hello, Frank Wren is the General Manager. Too, maybe Hubbard had not expressed a desire to stay with the organization with Bobby retiring. I like Hubbard and I wish him well, but maybe the dude wants to go fishing or something
I supported Bobby Cox, and I will support Fredi Gonzalez. I have always liked him and I think he’s going to be a great Manager.
George
October 14th, 2010
8:14 am
Glenn Hubbard deserved better; if not on the major league club at least an offer of something else. Not a good move to start the new era.
erm016
October 14th, 2010
8:22 am
Business is business, don’t let your emotions get in the way.
Bravo-Ski
October 14th, 2010
8:23 am
Racist much Dick??
Bravo-Ski
October 14th, 2010
8:26 am
Not like I know Glenn Hubbard, but all Braves fans seem to share the sentiment. He appeared to be a good guy and certainly a pleasant individual. I’m quite sure that there’s more to it than meets the eye. Sad thing is, it’s the nature of that (or any) business.
Eisendawg
October 14th, 2010
8:30 am
Well, I see Joe Tess Fish House is back on here, “loosing” again. lol
rfgh
October 14th, 2010
8:34 am
“Dick” was right to a degree. If they had kept Hubbard and fired Pendleton, some would be crying rascism just as they complain about not enough AA in baseball, even though 12% of the population represents over 50% of pro sports atheletes. It is what it is. And it will never change.
Navigator
October 14th, 2010
8:46 am
You guys, I read your remarks! You are thinking like me now, and yeah can we get Escobar back for Gonzo? I still can’t believe this team trading a young talented short stop for an old one that made just as many errors or in some cases simply couldn’t reach the grounders to make an error. You don’t trade young pitchers with talent, too hard to come by. By the way would somebody tell Red to stop showing the ball before he throws it, like maybe keep it in the glove. He’s been giving away pitches for two years, and please make Chipper a pinch hitter (won’t get hurt as much), You have an infield minus the shortstop when everyone is back, or if you have to play Chippy, then move one of the two allstar infielders to short and trade sea bass. There’s a good first baseman coming out of the minors, but he didn’t show a lot when he was up this year, so he needs more experience.
Worth taking a look
October 14th, 2010
8:52 am
GREG WALKER would be great as hitting Coach for Braves.
PH
October 14th, 2010
8:55 am
I am hoping whomever is the new hitting coach knows how to instruct the guys on hitting. A shame Chino is gone. He was a couple players on the team’s translator.
Jesse Stone
October 14th, 2010
8:58 am
Younger Than That Now
October 13th, 2010
10:01 pm
I too don’t like the race card being thrown out in every situation these days… it just isn’t a black & white issue in most cases, and especially in this one. If you will think back TP and Fredi used to ride their scooters to the ballpark together most every day, but even with that I think that Fredi is a big enough guy and a stand-up guy and he’s not going to let things like that get into the way of doing his job… especially his new job.
It is sad to see Hub thrown to the curb after so many years in the organization… I know for a fact that the job he did at Macon was very good and not an easy situation. First of all, it’s Macon… who isn’t known for supporting any sports franchise… and secondly it’s so close to Atlanta that he had to have felt like somebody was looking over his shoulder all the time with a microscope.
He’s a good guy and he’ll do well in whatever he does, and who knows, he might be tired of the travel grind with him doing it for so long, and you’re coaching guys who are making 150 times what you’re making. Not a bad gig, and I’d love to ride that train for a while too, but the travel and being away from home and family for 7-8 months out of the year would get old
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Glenn Hubbard was never manager of the Macon Braves.
Versiroth
October 14th, 2010
8:59 am
Glenn’s Job was infield defense, which was horrible this year and also it’s the 1st base coaches job to time the pitchers and indicate if our guys can steal. Hubbard was horrible at this. It seemed like our guys were always thrown out by 5 feet. Heck, Francoeur, who never stole bases here even stole some once he left. I’m glad Hubbard has been replaced. TP needs to get a stop watch and do a better job at getting our guys good jumps.
gordonguy
October 14th, 2010
9:00 am
Glenn Hubbard – manager of the Pittsburgh Pirates?
PH
October 14th, 2010
9:01 am
I like what I read from one commenter. Julio Franco hitting coach and heck lets make him starting first baseman too.
jimmymack
October 14th, 2010
9:07 am
mr hubbard your class and dignity will be sorely missed.as i said to you on the escalator in chicago during the allstar game thank you for the way you represent the city and the atlanta braves
Carroll
October 14th, 2010
9:09 am
I don’t care for this notion that “because Freddi did such a good job with such a low payroll, he must be a good manager” nonsense. He may well turn out to be good, but the payroll in fla is no reflection of the kinda talent he had to work with. He had some of the best young arms in the game, and the likes of HanRam, Uggla, and others in the field/lineup. Very similar to how Joe Maddon (Rays) has one of the lowest payrolls in the AL, but it is rife with young talent across the board.
mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache
October 14th, 2010
9:09 am
What a horriable thing to do to Hubbard! Terry approach to hitting will be the same to the infield. A monotoned approach. The team didnt respond to him as a hitting coach, so what makes them think that the team will change with him at the first base coach!!! It will have the same results. Snicker is still here? They let go the wrong man! I am not happy with the moves. Snicker, sorry for the misspell, is really bad at third. My have cost some games for us. I dont see TP as our guy. In any role….
Hub fan
October 14th, 2010
9:14 am
Fredi’s 1st day done piss fans off already by keeping TP.
coo coo bird fan
October 14th, 2010
9:15 am
When Bobby Cox was hired he had a losing record, so much for that theory about Freddi. The chances of us finding another coach to last 25 yrs arent good
jerry
October 14th, 2010
9:16 am
When TP was a player he once told a reporter that he did not watch the game when he was not playing because it was boring.
jerry
October 14th, 2010
9:17 am
coo coo bird fan ——–And why did Bobby have a losing record?
Lost Cause
October 14th, 2010
9:24 am
Just a reminder, TP was probably #2 or #3 on the slate to actually be manager. Better he be at first base than in charge. Go Braves!
Now let’s find a big bat or someone who can run … or field or all three!!! Can you believe they had 91 wins with that offense … and defense?
GTSteve
October 14th, 2010
9:25 am
Joe Simpson for hitting coach
Ex Braves Fan
October 14th, 2010
9:30 am
The Braves took SEVEN rookies into the NLDS. They have serious problems at all levels of the everyday players. First, they badly need to just get rid of these over paid, non productive position players. Players such as Broke Ankle, MilkyDud, Lee, Glossedout, etc. have got too go. Surely there are better players available at the cheap Braves can afford. Sadly, Chipper’s day has come and he is costing them a small fortune. Those $18 million could be spent bringing in two or three decent players. But, Jones will be back. They have no 3dbaseman too replace him. They will have the kid at 1B next year. Gonzo will have one year on his contract I think, so stuck with him also. Diaz had a horrible season, injury or not. Even after he came back, he never got his average up. Jason will only get better. So, really, they need help at: 3B, SS, LF, CF, back up at 1B, 3B, SS, 2B. I guess the Fonz can still be the 2B next year, but I don’t see the same production. It was a career year. But, still .285 or so out of him would be good. Conrad is not an everyday player. We saw that in the play offs. No playoffs next year.
bertdawg
October 14th, 2010
9:33 am
Andrew Jones and Jeff Franceurwere sluggers who all the sudden couldn’t hit. The Braves currently have 5 or 6 guys who have hit for 25 homers or more with other teams. Heyward was hitting balls out of the park in spring training but has been taught to hit down on the ball and just try to make contact. The only common denominator was our hitting coach. I think Terry will be good in his new role but so was Hubbard.
danbo
October 14th, 2010
9:37 am
Keeping TP is a serious mistake.
Jesse Stone
October 14th, 2010
9:43 am
Funny how Bobby’s biggest criticism is his loyalty, and now people are pi$$ed at Fredi because he wasn’t loyal to a lifelong Brave (who played for Oakland as well). Hubbard was a first base coach and infield coordinator to a bad infield defense. Easily replaceable.
Jesse Stone
October 14th, 2010
9:44 am
I spoke to Brandon Hyde last night, who was the Marlions bench coach after Fredi was fired. He says the whole staff is in flux because they hear the FG may be bringing a few of his guys to Atlanta.
kgb
October 14th, 2010
9:46 am
I liked Hubbard but what exactly does a 1st base coach do other than pat a player on the butt when he gets on at 1st base?
wjones
October 14th, 2010
9:50 am
“jerry
October 14th, 2010
9:16 am
When TP was a player he once told a reporter that he did not watch the game when he was not playing because it was boring.”
Yes, I remember that comment, and I hoped it was as embarrasing to the Braves as it was to me. Not a great PR move for the “leader” of the team, and what an insulting thing to say (indirectly) about his fans. So when he was hired onto the coaching staff, I was very surprised. I am also glad he didn’t get the manager’s job–give him one of the minor league managing jobs first, to see if his “boredom” is still intact. I am a firm believer in managers “cutting their teeth” in the minors before they are handed a big league job.
wjones
October 14th, 2010
9:55 am
“Jesse Stone
October 14th, 2010
9:44 am
I spoke to Brandon Hyde last night, who was the Marlions bench coach after Fredi was fired. He says the whole staff is in flux because they hear the FG may be bringing a few of his guys to Atlanta.”
Well, if I understand it correctly, there is only one opening left.
Sowega Sam
October 14th, 2010
10:01 am
I agree with another of the “commenters” about TP.
I was afraid the guy was going to be the next manager.
I could not see any reason for him being kept for so long unless they had that kind of plan for him.
Thank God someone had better sense.
Now that the bat has been taken from his hand, it’s time to put a tomahawk in it and bring back the teepee.
mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache
October 14th, 2010
10:14 am
@JESSE, You can be a good to great player, but that does not equate to being a good to great coach. At whatever the position or batting experience. The great Ted Williams never was a hitting coach.
Jesse Stone
October 14th, 2010
10:24 am
mark bradley’s 70’s fro and mustache
October 14th, 2010
10:14 am
@JESSE, You can be a good to great player, but that does not equate to being a good to great coach. At whatever the position or batting experience. The great Ted Williams never was a hitting coach
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SadDawg
October 14th, 2010
10:25 am
Didn’t Hub get paid for all of his years with the Braves? Fredi is the new guy, and he wants his own assistants. What’s the problem?
DoninTococca/78
October 14th, 2010
10:30 am
I too watched Hubbard time and again take fumble finger infielders and turn them into good infielders. Sorry he had to go. Glad TP is moving
on up and now let’s watch and see what type of team Fredi will bring to us next year. Oh, not sure Leo is now a good fit. Won’t make or brake us, I’m just saying …
butch
October 14th, 2010
10:36 am
It’s understandable about TP at least. He was the slickest infielder I ever saw. The Cardinals were the top in that dept and when he came over to the Braves he was playing at another level compared to the other Braves infielders.
DMac
October 14th, 2010
10:41 am
Keep Pendleton and fire Hubbard? Can you say “affirmative action move?” They both should have been given the boot!!! The Braves were bad in fielding and in hitting, so why not sack both coaches? Oh, I remember now. Pendleton is a minority and thus untouchable no matter how much he sucks at his job.
meh
October 14th, 2010
10:45 am
how about Andres Gallaragha
Natasha
October 14th, 2010
10:46 am
Okay, guys – a insight from a gal with a bit of Braves history…
Hubbard is a low key guy and probably wanted to leave when Cox retired. It’s part of what happens with these oltimers that have been around together for as long as they have.
Snitker has been with the organization since the 70’s, worked his way through the Braves organization … first MB Pelicans Mgr, at M Braves when Francour and others were called up, and then to Richmond as Mgr. Again, another low profile kind of guy.
Fredi knows all these guys. Hopefully TP can overcome his bad image, which is mainly his fault. It’s probably do or die for TP and he knows it, his last shot to prove himself so he can move on or out.
You are more than welcome Guys!
DOYLE LIPSCOMB
October 14th, 2010
10:56 am
I THINK ANY ONE OF THESE GUYS WOULD BE A GREAT HITTING COACH,,MILT THOMPSON,,CHRIS CHAMBLISS,,DON BAYLOR AND GREG WALKER
Phil
October 14th, 2010
10:56 am
HEY DOB…Please give us an update on Hubbard firing…there has got to be a story behind the story…this really undercuts the positive vibes that came with the Gonzales hiring.
Eddie
October 14th, 2010
10:58 am
Comfort has a great deal to do with hirings at any level. For example, our President is hiring the guy he plays basketball with at lunch to a very important Secretary-level job in the Department of Defense.
Jesse Stone
October 14th, 2010
11:00 am
Who did Hubbard turm into a Gold Glove infielder? Perry Hill, who was with the Marlins prior to Fredi, was a good infield instructor.
Mike
October 14th, 2010
11:04 am
Maybe we’ll actually steal some bases now…
Jesse Stone
October 14th, 2010
11:05 am
When we had someone like Otis or Furcal, we stole bases. If we get good basestealers, we’ll steal bases.
Raymond
October 14th, 2010
11:21 am
I think that Terry Pendleton should have been the one let go, instead of Glen Hubbard. The Braves faultered during the last month of the season and lost in the series due to lack of hitting and no run production. So why should Glenn Hubbard lose his job because of this?
Gwinnett Fred
October 14th, 2010
11:23 am
Have to agree that Hubby’s departure was greatly influenced by the late season collapse of the defense, and to that end, it’s hard to argue.
However, to not find a spot in the organization for him is pathetic IMO. Forget them “finding” a spot for him, teams don’t dismiss some one one day and hire them back the next (with the exception of George Steinbrenner of course).
We’ll miss you Glenn!
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October 14th, 2010
11:26 am
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Gwinnett Fred
October 14th, 2010
11:26 am
Doyle,
Milt Thompson??? Are you serious?? He couldn’t keep his job in Philly with a totally STACKED lineup and you expect him to be a good hire as hitting coach here with this group of ping hitters??
J T at Capital
October 14th, 2010
11:26 am
T.P. Did a good job compared to what he had to work with the Braves led the league in errors. Everybody love huddy somebody had to go so ax fell on him.
Dave the fool
October 14th, 2010
11:28 am
Dave
October 13th, 2010
9:36 pm
Yes, keep the hitting coach that no one uses because he only makes your swing worse but fire the guy who made Giles and Prado great infielders. Jesse Jackson must have threatened a march or something
Dave, you ignorant fool. Prado hits over .300, you give no credit to the hitting coach. Prado is a good fielder, you give credit to the position coach.
Dave, that is why you are an uninformed, ignorant racist fool
glord1
October 14th, 2010
11:29 am
coo coo bird fan
October 14th, 2010
9:15 am
When Bobby Cox was hired he had a losing record, so much for that theory about Freddi. The chances of us finding another coach to last 25 yrs arent good
Bobby Cox had a losing record when he left too……In the playoffs.
mudcat
October 14th, 2010
11:32 am
Hubbard had to go. These Braves can’t field worth a damned and changes had to be made. Glad TP is coming back. This guy Tosca is suppose to be solid. Just hope the hitting coach is as capable. I think Fredi already knows who he wants but is going through the motions for PR reasons.
Weave
October 14th, 2010
11:34 am
Many of you are associating Fredi with the decision to fire Glenn; might want to evaluate Mr. Frank Wren and his decisions.
Gwinnett Fred
October 14th, 2010
11:40 am
Weave,
You don’t think, just possibly, during the meetings Wren had with Gonzalez in September his opinions of who should stay & who should go weren’t addressed?
Come on – Fredi was the Braves manager from the second he was fired in Florida and these moves are all either instigated by him or fully approved by him.
Line Drive
October 14th, 2010
11:43 am
4 Players who cannot be brought back for 2011…..and I don’t think any of them are tied to us because of contract status…….Ankiel, Diaz, Glaus and Cabrera…..MUST BE LET GO
If you have to, you can trade McCann to an AL team as a catcher/DH and hopefully get back a RH OF with sock….I am pretty sure you can find 2 catchers to replace McCann who will be a lot better at the position
Terrence Moore
October 14th, 2010
11:48 am
That’s right peeps, TP a black man, we gunna keeps him around. Ain’t gunna keep no honky boy like Glen Hubbard round no more. They let go a TP I’ms gunna get my boy Al Sharpton down here with my main man Jesse J and light some fires, wouldn’t be fiar if the let a black man go!
Natasha
October 14th, 2010
11:49 am
Yep, go figure, you guys don’t listen to your wive’s either.
I’m telling ya, Hubbard was not axed!
braves fan
October 14th, 2010
11:51 am
@LINE DRIVE: OMG are you high!?!? Trade our 5 time all-star and hometown boy McCann for an OF bat!?!? WOW youre an idiot, you probably voted for Obama too didn’t you? Didn’t you?!?!? You probably have cats in your house too, don’t ya!?! Yeah, i know your type, youre the guy i get behind in traffic a few times a week. Nice bumper stickers, “CoExist” man!