Braves drop Hubbard, switch Pendleton from hitting coach

Four members of the Braves coaching staff were retained including pitching coach Roger McDowell and Terry Pendleton, who was switched from hitting coach to first-base coach/ infield instructor in place of Glenn Hubbard.

Also back are third-base coach Brian Snitker and bullpen coach Eddie Perez.

Hubbard and bench coach Chino Cadahia were dropped and not offered other positions in the organization.

New manager Fredi Gonzalez brought former Toronto manager Carlos Tosca from Gonzalez’s Florida Marlins staff to serve as bench coach, and the Braves will hire a new hitting coach to replace Pendleton, who spent nine seasons in that role.

General manager Frank Wren indicated the Braves have discussed several hitting-coach candidates and could hire one during their organizational meetings that start next week.

“For me, the hardest thing was the first day when we got to talking about the coaching staff, because I have relationship with those guys and I respect them all,” said Gonzalez, who served as Braves third-base coach from 2003-2006.

“I knew those would be some of the toughest decisions that had to be made. I’m glad that all those guys [who were invited back] said yes.”

Hubbard, 53, served 12 seasons as first-base coach after a playing career that included 10 seasons with the Braves through 1987. He was an All-Star second baseman in 1983.

Cadahia, 52, spent three seasons on the Braves’ major league staff and 11 years in their minor league system.

“It’s just a matter of a new manager having the ability to bring some of his own coaches, which is important,” Wren said of the changes. “It was important for him to have one especially like Carlos Tosca, who he’s worked with in the past and is close to. Even though Fredi is close to the guys on our coaching staff.

“It’s not a reflection on the guys [dropped from the staff]. It’s just important for a new guy coming in to have some of his own staff.”

On Pendleton’s job switch, Wren said, “I just think it was probably time for a new voice [with the hitters]. And talking to Terry this morning, he really has good ideas and a lot of thoughts about the game…. Terry’s really excited about having more influence within the game, whether it’s infield play or baserunning, all the things that are responsibilities that Fredi’s going to give him.”

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Kelly

October 13th, 2010
8:43 pm

Kelly

October 13th, 2010
8:43 pm

Well, at least as a hitting coach.

shawn

October 13th, 2010
8:45 pm

Pendelton was a good move..First

Saint simons

October 13th, 2010
8:45 pm

braves808

October 13th, 2010
8:49 pm

so i assume if melky and hinske comes back, they’ll be in tip top shape since chino cadahia (buffet coordinator before/during/after games) will be gone

Somebody

October 13th, 2010
8:50 pm

Chipper for hitting coach please!

perk

October 13th, 2010
8:54 pm

surprised at the Hubby move in the sense that no other postion was offered in the organization. Same with Cahahia–who seemd to be Cox’ right hand man. gonna miss Hubby–doesn’t seem right he is thrown out to pasture.

Reid in EAV

October 13th, 2010
8:54 pm

I guess it was just to make room for some of Fredi’s own guys, which I don’t begrudge, but man, I’m bummed to see Hubbard go. He was a Braves lifer, and had been associated with this team longer than Cox has (1977).

So really, no issues with the guys hitting the door? That’s just the way it goes, hope you find another job, we’ll put in a good word for ya wherever… that sort of thing?

Hubbard

October 13th, 2010
8:55 pm

Sad to see Glenn go. Would like to see him back in the Braves organization.
If Fredi had the Marlins doing as good as the NY Muts with a fraction of their payroll, he should do great with the salaries the Braves pay. How many weeks until catchers and pitchers report?

braves11

October 13th, 2010
8:55 pm

Why didn’t Wren just fire TP altogether? What makes him better than Hubbard? Not refuting the decision just wondering…

Kimbrel4Closer

October 13th, 2010
8:57 pm

LOL braves808

Amen, Somebody

Chillahill43

October 13th, 2010
9:01 pm

Guess hubbard was not holding the elbow pads right. Really pendelton and no hubbard. Well the first move really is so bobby. Damn. Really no hubbard but we keep tp. Really. Jeeeeezzzzus!

Joe Tess Fish House

October 13th, 2010
9:01 pm

Why is ever one upset about TP? The reel problem is the manager they hired. NEVER hire a manager with a loosing record that was just fired a few months ago.

LAG

October 13th, 2010
9:02 pm

Pendleton’s probably a more capable fielding coach or something.

I would rather he move Hubbard to 3B… but whatever. Really hope they can bring him back in some capacity.

Burgess

October 13th, 2010
9:02 pm

Wouldn’t you think there would be a job somewhere for Hubbard in the organization as a scout or a minor league manager or coach ?
Can’t help but wonder if there’s more to the story.

LAG

October 13th, 2010
9:05 pm

Joe Tess Fish House – Ask the Yankees how hiring Joe Torre prior to the ‘96 season worked for them.

Chillahill43

October 13th, 2010
9:06 pm

Tp. Has a job braves batted 175 for seotember and october. Thats the problem. TP has a job. My god. Joe tessfish house. Friggen T P has as effen job thats the efen problem. Thats it. Really the bs continues. What a effen joke!! T P has a job. ! Wow!

CSpin

October 13th, 2010
9:10 pm

Yeah I’m gonna miss Hubbard…….I wonder if he feels hurt or betrayed

Brandon

October 13th, 2010
9:18 pm

Overall I like the moves. I feel bad for Hubbard, but at least TP isn’t going to be the Hitting Coach anymore.

dick

October 13th, 2010
9:19 pm

Hubbie thanks for all you have done. It was either you or TP and if it had been TP we would have the NAACP and ACLU involved.

Brother John

October 13th, 2010
9:20 pm

Count me in on the Hubbard bandwagon. Dude did everything asked of him, for what, 23 years? I’ll give Fredi every chance in the world, but throwing Glenn under the bus is going to rile some long time fans. If he had thrown Pendleton under the bus, I would have been right there to help him!! Chipper for player/ manager-in-waiting. Two years of Fredi should be enough when Chipper retires as a player….

Dawgdad (The Original)

October 13th, 2010
9:20 pm

Read somewhere this AM that Fredi was very close to TP, which I guess means not so close with Hubbard. Cadahia seemed to be Yunel’s personal svengali, so his usefulness was greatly deminished when Yunel took his multiple personalities up north.

ace

October 13th, 2010
9:24 pm

Whoever is hitting coach (wellman?) Will be keeping the seat warm for Chipper

Gulf Coast

October 13th, 2010
9:29 pm

I am saddened to read about Hubbard; I thought it was a nice connection to a prior generation of Braves. I wish Fredi would have kept him. Besides, Hubb was a great guy with the fans, especially in spring training games!

nfieldr

October 13th, 2010
9:30 pm

I’m definitely po’ed about the Braves retaining TP and not Hubbard. So, let me get this straight… the Braves fire a guy who was a good defensive player and by most accounts a pretty good infield instructor (he’s credited with making Marcus Giles into a serviceable ML infielder) and replaced him as infield instructor with a guy who they are basically firing as hitting coach (rightfully so IMO) and who was mostly known as a hitter as a player. Does that pretty much sum it up?

Alpha9

October 13th, 2010
9:31 pm

I guess nobody realizes that Glen Hubbards job was defense and infield play..yeah his work showed very well during the NLDS

Faithful Braves Fan

October 13th, 2010
9:31 pm

I have long thought that the Braves needed a new hitting coach. Nothing against TP. He is a fierce competitor and I think he brings something to the coaching staff. Unfortunately, whenever I hear a Braves hitter turning things around, it is because he talked to Chipper. How about Chipper as a player/coach?

katiebravesfan

October 13th, 2010
9:31 pm

I like all the chances but am also saddened to see Glenn and Chino gone. I think Chino’s a great guy and will eventually be a manager somewhere else. Glenn however was in charge of the development of the players defensively and with all the errors the Braves committed and the fact that he could never fully get Kelly Johnson to come around as a second baseman…I can some what understand why Glenn may be gone.

ijudgenot

October 13th, 2010
9:33 pm

I second the thought that Hubbard should have been put on third or TP on 3rd and Hubbard at 1st.
Snitker made several blantant errors doing the season , The most memorable was sending McCann home from 1st on a double. He was out by 20 feet. He did not show that he had a feel for the players ability to run or not run the basis. Also remember Escobar and heyward running through his stop sighns and scoring easily. He must have been one of Gonzalez coaches when he was at Richmond.

SoCalBrave

October 13th, 2010
9:35 pm

I hope Hubbard was not offered a job within the organization so that he can get a better job elsewhere. I’m sure that with his experience he’ll be in demand.

P'cola Brave

October 13th, 2010
9:35 pm

Heard this name thrown around earlier for hitting coach. Jim Pressley

Dave

October 13th, 2010
9:36 pm

Yes, keep the hitting coach that no one uses because he only makes your swing worse but fire the guy who made Giles and Prado great infielders. Jesse Jackson must have threatened a march or something

Tilly

October 13th, 2010
9:36 pm

I CANNOT Believe Hubbard is gone. That’s a real disappointment. I’m like everyone else. I can’t believe that they are keeping TP around. This guy must really have the goods on someone in the organization. I didn’t like him as a Braves’ player and dislike the guy even more as a “coach”- (I use the term lightly). I’m kind of wondering what he’s done for us lately.

Younger Than That Now

October 13th, 2010
9:37 pm

It would have been nice to have seen the guys that were dismissed have been offered other options within the organization… which they may have for all we know… but I don’t think Hub will have a problem securing another position, and more than likely with the help of Bobby Cox. I met Hub when he managed at Macon years ago and he seemed to have a good rapport with the young players there… I can only wish him well. IMO, Hub was one of the best defensive second basemen ever to play in Atlanta… man he could turn a quick DP at 2nd… and used one of the smallest gloves I’ve ever seen, ala Joe Morgan (and please don’t confuse me with someone who likes Joe Morgan, otherwise known as the “all knowing, all consuming Barry Bonds spokesman”).

Even though a guy is good at some aspect of the game… hitting for Pendleton and defense for Hub… that doesn’t always translate into them being a good teacher of that aspect, in fact it could hurt them in some cases. Meaning that a guy who finds hitting an easier part of the game might have a hard time relating to a young player who has to constantly work at it a lot.

I was glad to see Roger McDowell retained… and I’ll be the first to say that his appointment as pitching coach didn’t ring well with me at the time. I just thought he was too big of a goofball as a player to be taken very seriously as a coach… he’s both fooled me and won me over.

Eddie Perez… well, he’s Eddie Perez and much loved in the clubhouse and more like a teammate than a coach, seemingly… one of the biggest jokesters on the team.

I would seriously wonder if the Braves have or even would consider Howie McCann as hitting coach… he’s had one student that translates what he’s learned in the cage very well into what he does at gametime in the box… and everyone doesn’t do that. As Schultz mentioned on another blog, coaches can coach till they’re blue in the face, but the player has to take it to the plate and swing the bat.

Glad to see Fredi as the man!!

bummed

October 13th, 2010
9:38 pm

Bad form letting Hubbard go, even worse form…it being a AJC byline. He desires more and will be missed. Shame on you Atl. Braves

Braves Fan

October 13th, 2010
9:43 pm

I like Fredi but damn don’t like kicking Hub out and keeping that #*#@ TP, is a joke. 23 years almost as many as Bobby and thanks for the loyality. Hope TP gets job elsewhere as I can’t stand him.

Greg Walker for hitting coach from white sox.

Hubbard

October 13th, 2010
9:43 pm

Maybe Glenn can catch on with Ned Yost in KC. I agree with Gulf Coast about the connection to the 80’s Braves. Those old TBS days were fun even when the Braves were out of the race in May.

bummed

October 13th, 2010
9:44 pm

deserves..Freudian?

charles

October 13th, 2010
9:50 pm

What the f##k did T. P. do to any of you to piss you off? He was a very good player when he was still playing. And he served as the first base coach when Fredi was the third base coach so it stands to reason he has a connection with him. Some of you act as if he swinging the bats for the players as they took all those good pitches and swung at the balls in the dirt no not his fault. Then this little Dick brings race into it. God bless Bobby Cox and may he live long and enjoy his retirement but a lot can be put at his feet for losing the series as for me i’m just looking forward to this fresh start with our manager.

Chief pitchanono

October 13th, 2010
9:52 pm

Too bad about Huby, he made several guys into pretty good second baseman, when the Braves needed them throughout the years. We will miss him, sounds like Pedelton got the buddy pass on this one, I would have let him go and kept Glen. I’m sure Gonzo will be a good manager for the Braves, they certainly seem to have allot of faith in him and Bobby is leaving him a pretty good team to get started with. I will be very surprised if this does not work out.

bravesfan

October 13th, 2010
9:52 pm

First of all I’ve been a Braves fan for along time and Im just sad to hear all this stuff about Terry why is the talk about must have been NAACP or other stuff involved Fredi mad his choice and respect that nobody will be complaining when the Braves win the East and make it back to the World series. Man I thought we as apeople was over this negative race stuff! In that case it could be said that why don’t the Braves have that Many African American players anymore like in the early 90″s

Younger Than That Now

October 13th, 2010
9:53 pm

Braves Fan… Greg Walker would be a good choice and he probably would be very interested since he still makes his off-season home in Douglas Georgia, where he’s from. And, he can’t feel real job security with the ChiSox with Ozzie at the helm… nothing against Ozzie, I like him and I think he does a good job… I just don’t know how long that marriage with him and the GM is gonna last. From the outside looking in, it looks like a planned train-wreck somewhere down the line.

NRBQ

October 13th, 2010
9:56 pm

Snitker has not distinguished himself at third, and is not a tired-and-true Braves Man.

Hubbard is an institution, and by all accounts, immensely popular with the players. I watched his entire career, and as most would agree, saw him give his all to the Braves.

Does it just make too much sense to put TP at third?

I wish Fredi all the luck, but this decision leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Younger Than That Now

October 13th, 2010
10:01 pm

I too don’t like the race card being thrown out in every situation these days… it just isn’t a black & white issue in most cases, and especially in this one. If you will think back TP and Fredi used to ride their scooters to the ballpark together most every day, but even with that I think that Fredi is a big enough guy and a stand-up guy and he’s not going to let things like that get into the way of doing his job… especially his new job.

It is sad to see Hub thrown to the curb after so many years in the organization… I know for a fact that the job he did at Macon was very good and not an easy situation. First of all, it’s Macon… who isn’t known for supporting any sports franchise… and secondly it’s so close to Atlanta that he had to have felt like somebody was looking over his shoulder all the time with a microscope.

He’s a good guy and he’ll do well in whatever he does, and who knows, he might be tired of the travel grind with him doing it for so long, and you’re coaching guys who are making 150 times what you’re making. Not a bad gig, and I’d love to ride that train for a while too, but the travel and being away from home and family for 7-8 months out of the year would get old.

gaknight

October 13th, 2010
10:02 pm

Good luck Freddie–you’ll need it! How the Braves made the playoffs is beyond a miracle. Basically, you had a AAA team behind a major league pitching staff. This will not be a quick fix. Threes years at least. Instead of asking what they need, ask what they don’t need. That’s pretty simple, starting pitchers, a Second baseman, Catcher and Right Fielder. They don’t even have reliable backups anywhere else. Chipper should retire; anything short of that is for the $$. He’s way over the hill. The Braves have an empty cupboard in the minors, unless that player is three years away. They have no speed, few prospects and short purse strings. Other than the fore-mentioned, everyone else is expendable, including every starting pitcher. They don’t even have a closer anymore. Would someone please explain how Freddie Freeman is a “can’t miss” prospect. We already raised a first baseman and he plays for the Diamondbacks. Thanks for nothing Frank Wren.

bravesfan

October 13th, 2010
10:07 pm

I do agree that we did need change as hitting coach but it’s really up to the players to take it in and if they don’t then it will sure show at the plate. I like Hubbard and yes maybe he should have been kept and TP over to 3rd but Hubbard was over the fielding and we had alot of errors so the same can be said about that as the hitting to all Braves fans the season is over so let’s just hope we get some big time players in the off season and Chipper comes back to help lead this team back to the big fall classic! Go Braves!

BBUA

October 13th, 2010
10:17 pm

I like the hire but agree with most that I’m sorry to see Hubbard let go. Another blogger mentioned a past relationship between Fredi and TP. I think I saw on DOB blog a year ago or so that Fredi, TP and DOB rode motorcycles together. I guess he felt more comfortable with TP than Hubbard. .

Mr. Enigma

October 13th, 2010
10:19 pm

Hubbard got thrown out because he was the infield coach. The Braves led MLB in errors after the All-Star break. Not exactly a glowing endorsement for re-hiring.

Just a thought.....

October 13th, 2010
10:21 pm

This is for Freddi and Frank……Please interview former Phillies hitting instructor and former Brave Milt Thompson. He like Freddi got a bad rap when they needed to fire someone in Phillie but he is also the one who put the work in with Rollins, Utley, and Howard. I believe they turned out pretty good offensively. Thompson might also lure Worth away from the Phillies if we can afford him.

P. Bull Terrier

October 13th, 2010
10:22 pm

Hubbard is taking the fall for not screaming “Run!!!” loud enough to get Alex Gonzalez moving after he hit the ball in Game 4. A good T-Ball 1st base coach knows that sometimes you have to scream at the top of your lungs, jump up and down, and wave your hat around to get a player moving out of the box after he hits the ball. It was all Hubbard’s fault.

Smart Jay

October 13th, 2010
10:24 pm

I disagree vehemently that the Braves, healthy, are a AAA lineup next year. They will be heavy on the left side next year, which means they need to sign a power RH outfielder. Certainly there are question marks – 1. Can Chipper hit .280 with 20-25 homers and 80+ RBI?
2. Can Freeman play 1B and hit near .300 with 20+ HR’s?
3. What to do with Infante? Play LF and see if he can hit .300 again? Utility again and get perhaps 300 AB’s?
4. Who will play CF? Look at McLouth’s contract – he’s untradeable at his cost. He’s going to be given an opportunity to win that job.

The pitching promises to be good, league-leading even. So, if the Braves can add a decent RH bat and if Chipper comes through again, and if Freeman is the real deal, this team would have Chipper, Freeman, Heyward, Infante, McCann, and that 3rd OF (assuming) all capable of 20 homers/80 RBI’s.

That’s a lot of IF’s, but by no means outside the realm of possibility.

MattyRoss

October 13th, 2010
10:26 pm

Milt Thompson is not a bad idea…

AdirondackDave

October 13th, 2010
10:27 pm

Whatever happened to Don Baylor? He would get my vote for hitting coach, at least until Chipper retires and gets the job.

BERNIE

October 13th, 2010
10:28 pm

A life long Braves player and coach and Hubbard is out. Shame on you Freddi. I thought you were going to be fine but now I don’t know. Reconsider and let TP go.

hangman

October 13th, 2010
10:31 pm

Thank God, it’s over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Braves Fan in Illinois

October 13th, 2010
10:34 pm

I can’t believe they didn’t at least offer Hubbard another job. I don’t know what it would’ve been, but that’s not the way you treat a guy who has pretty much given his life to your organization. Even if you know he’d never be interested in the position you offer, you give him the chance to turn you down instead of essentially throwing him out on his keister.

gcs

October 13th, 2010
10:35 pm

You people who blame TP are ignorant to how baseball works.

Don’t quit your day jobs.

.

hard to figure out

October 13th, 2010
10:35 pm

The braves were 14th in MLB in hitting and 26th in fielding. So by those simple numbers why should Hubbard stay and Pendelton go?? Why couldn’t he make Conrad into a All-Star 2nd baseman or stop Gonzales from making so many careless mistakes? Oh, I know he can put them in position, but can’t make them catch a ball hit directly to them. So when TP gives instructions or works on mechanics and the players still swing and miss, why is he a terrible coach? Some of you need to apply for the circus because ya’ll are the biggest bunch of clownsI really can’t understand the strong hatred for TP.

RHR

October 13th, 2010
10:37 pm

Good to hear that TP took it well, I wondered if he felt slighted by not even being interviewed for the manager job, one that so many thought he would get some day.

Don!

October 13th, 2010
10:40 pm

DOB, I know you’re working on it … but can we expect some comments from Glenn? I, like many others here, feel he was given the short end of the stick here — and he’s one of the better people who have been part of this franchise for the last three decades.

Thanks,

Don!

bamakirk

October 13th, 2010
10:41 pm

Geez, some of you have no clue. You want to hire a manager, but tell him which coaches he has to keep? I am the biggest Hubbard fan around but anytime you have a change at the top everyones job is at risk. Pendleton is a good baseball man and will do fine. I also think he is not as bad of a hitting coach as some of you think. After 9 years we just needed a different approach.

chris

October 13th, 2010
10:41 pm

Hubbard has given many years to this organization – as player and coach – more so than Pendleton. I like them both and i just hope the Braves find a way to at least offer him some type of position within this system even if its as a scout or minor league instructor. Not sure he’ll take it but itd take this bad taste out of a lot of fans mouth over this move. Loyalty is a two way street- the man gave his to this team for 12 years as a coach and 10 as a player. Enough said

Fired Chino and Hubbs...

October 13th, 2010
10:43 pm

tbravefan

October 13th, 2010
10:44 pm

The Hitting Coach should be Jamie Dismuke – ask any of the players who has worked with him in Gwinnett – or gee…who was that 2nd baseman last year who was sent to AAA and suddenly he hit like 30 homers for the D’backs this year after working with Dismuke… oh yeah Kelly Johnson!
If he can help all those players- he’s our man!!!

bascogcjs

October 13th, 2010
10:45 pm

WTH do you all see in Hubbard?
Just because he played for them doesn’t make him so valuable.

Kristen

October 13th, 2010
10:48 pm

Yes, let’s get rid of Hubbard, who has molded great infielders, like Prado and Giles .But not offer him another job within the organization. But keep Pendleton and give him another coaching position. Yea, that makes perfect sense. Just when I think the Braves are headed in the right direction, in hiring Gonzalez, they go and do this!!!

bascogcjs

October 13th, 2010
10:53 pm

Dave, what are you talking about? Giles was never a great fielder. He was a poor defensive player and an offensive player who was supposedly helped by s——-.
I don’t get all this infatuation with hubbard. To me, he seemed to have no energy on the field.
People who hate Pendleton and Love Hubbard. That’s just really strange.

Jim Presley

October 13th, 2010
10:56 pm

Fredi gonna bring me to ATL with him, I coached with him in Miami and played in Atl….good fit, except I don’t know squat about hitting but forgot more than TP ever knew.

hAL

October 13th, 2010
10:57 pm

tp wasnt known as a hitter or a fielder maybe go for malcontenyt

74years

October 13th, 2010
10:58 pm

Somebody,Please tell me why we kept Snitker and let Hubbard go -

hard to figure out

October 13th, 2010
10:58 pm

Kristen

Giles a great infielder? Really? Prado had a career year under Pendelton this year, but I know it was in spite of Pendelton not because of him. Spin it how you want, you can be the ring leader of the circus with the rest of the clowns.

ABravesFan

October 13th, 2010
11:18 pm

Sad to see Hubbard let go, but I guess a minor league role would be insulting for someone with his experience. I’ll also miss Chino as well. No doubt am I excited about a new hitting coach, though that guy should just be keeping the seat warm for Chipper.

JRW7

October 13th, 2010
11:19 pm

Welcome Fredi, I would have kept GH and let TP go, might be your 1st mistake!!!!!! I can’t believe you kept TP!!!!!

sportsmandh

October 13th, 2010
11:20 pm

I think this is a great day for the Braves and their fans. To me, it helps to ease the sting and anger about losing the playoff series. It’s very nice to have a good feeling about getting the off season off to a good start. I have posted earlier in the week about the future is very bright. I’m glad the Braves didn’t wait long on announcing the manager decision. And from a PR standpoint, this couldn’t have worked out any better. It worked out like a torch passing ceremony. It is gonna be a good fit and mixture of coaches and players and make the transition very easy in my opinion. And the whole quote about Cox noting not winning much the last few years, and Freddy being younger, and new ideas, maybe even better ideas. Pretty humble statement by Cox. It is also obvious with that statement to me Cox probably is more happy with the situation just b/c of who is replacement is.

I was also glad to see Bobby asked about his new role, you can just tell from his statements a huge burden has been lifted off him. I’m very surprised by his tone of voice and how at ease he seemed at the press conference. It seems like he’s very happy (DOB am I misreading this?). That makes me think that he hasn’t really had many second thoughts about anything, and that he really was ready to get out. But on the other hand, having him around in the consulting aspect is still going to be a very good benefit to the team. I’ve posted about being glad he is out as the manager, mainly b/c of in game decisions and also thinking it’s past due for some new blood. But nobody in their right mind can argue with the knowledge he provides to the whole organization. You can just tell from the way he, Wren, and Gonzalez all were talking today. Everybody seems very happy with the way things have worked out (including the players). That can only help the organization going forward, that it seems like everybody is on the same page.

And one last thought, I think it’s really funny about Florida. They are wanting to get over the hump, and they can a coach that 4 or 5 teams want right off the bat. And worse yet, he’s snatched up immediately by a division rival. Talk about dropping the Braves gift on a silver platter. And who are they gonna get, Bobby Valentine? HA. I have a feeling that move is gonna be one that really haunts them for the foreseeable future. Maybe this was why they didn’t ‘honor’ Cox at the last game in Florida like all the other teams did. They knew, you’re parting gift is your replacement.

Jack

October 13th, 2010
11:23 pm

Don’t understand all the talk about Chipper as the hitting coach. The Dude makes millions a year… He’s going to take a job making 2 or 3 K a year? Yeah, right! Hope we get somebody equally as good a Roger to be the next hitting coach.

Thanks for the memories Bobby and good luck Fredi Hate to see Hubbard be the odd man out but it’s part of the business. Fredi deserves the opportunity to have his own staff. Probably more to the story with Hubbard and Chino not being offered some type of job in the organization.

wjones

October 13th, 2010
11:24 pm

I agree with those who question the decision to keep Snitker. It seems that the infield defense this year must have led to Hubbard’s demise, but Snitker seems to have little instincts as a base coach. Has more stop signs than a school district.

Heisenberg

October 13th, 2010
11:24 pm

I am quitting my day job tomorrow to apply for the hitting coach job.

bravesfan83

October 13th, 2010
11:26 pm

I’m gonna miss ol Bobby but like he saidwe need a younger guy to come in here with more ideas and I like what Freedi brings to the table! Let’s just deal with the moves he has made and let’s just see how he does

sportsmandh

October 13th, 2010
11:34 pm

There is no telling who the hitting coach will be. It’s very possible it could be somebody out of left field, nowhere, whatever you want to call it that nobody has thought of that could be a big surprise. For me, Chris Chambliss is somebody that I would think to be a good pick.

All in all (other than Snitker), I’m happy with the retained coaches. Maybe Hubbard was offered another position like TP and told them he wasn’t interested. And maybe Fredi can teach Snitker how to coach 3rd base. :) I have griped about Snitker like others, and there’s good reasons. But let’s be honest, if the team hits better overall then that is the much bigger issue.

sportsmandh

October 13th, 2010
11:36 pm

Hey DOB,
Maybe you, Fredi, and TP could make a motor cycle movie like that Road Hogs comedy movie that was out a few years ago. You could be the Tim Allen role, Fredi could be the Travolta role, TP could be the Martin Lawrence role. But you would need a nerd to be the William Macy role. Think Van Wieran could do it? Can’t see him being a motorcycle guy. :)

sportsmandh

October 13th, 2010
11:38 pm

Oh yeah, meant to mention, I think we should be pretty happy with getting Tosca as the bench coach. Seems like a really good pick.

PALADIN DEATH DEALER

October 13th, 2010
11:44 pm

What a shame about Hubbard…Guess he should have bought him a motorcycle and rode with FREDI to the park….That is a hell of a reason to keep one guy and let another go….Braves have a habit of handling their former players just like they handled Hubbard, remember Smoltz and Glavine…Very little class not even offering him a job in the front office….But politics are everywhere, with the Braves and even in the church….NO CLASS HERE….CAN’T WAIT TO SEE WHAT HUBBARD HAS TO SAY….

RJ DAWG

October 13th, 2010
11:46 pm

Everyone asking why Glen Hubbard was let go well here is the reason Brooks Conrad.All those error’s led to Hubbard not being retained.Since the Allstar break the Braves infeild had more errors than any other team.

retired .... on the lake and broke

October 13th, 2010
11:49 pm

Snitcker is a good 3b coach believe there were many more close plays at the plate that went our way than not. The Mcann thing was boneheaded sh#t happens.

The organization does not need a new great 2b needs a 3b post chip … oh tp is a former 3b think about it. screw the racial references doesn’t add into the equation see above

Wish Glenn the best ….

Fredi lead us to the promised land

repeat previous post of distinguished poster When do pitchers and catcher report.?

NSeagle78

October 13th, 2010
11:49 pm

Everyone blames Pendleton for the bad hitting, however the players that left the braves because of an inability to hit have continued to struggle. TP deserves some loyality. The change that needed to be made has been made, good by Bobby.

RJ DAWG

October 13th, 2010
11:51 pm

Game3 and all those errors by Brooks Conrad got Glen Hubbard fired.The position coach is always held acountable when the players don’t do their jobs.Brooks Conrad got Hubbard fired wiyh his poor play.

Henry D.

October 13th, 2010
11:51 pm

GREG NORTON FOR HITTING COACH!!!!

retiring 6 years too late

October 13th, 2010
11:52 pm

Chipper will never put up descent numbers as an everyday player. Those days ARE GONE! Liberty media took the safe way out on hiring FG as manager. This teams needs speed at the top of the order. a LF who can hit for power, SS who can field and a CF. Until low budget Liberty Media sells this team to someone Locally…………………..Da Braves will be a 75 to 80 wins ball club if lucky. This team will never challenge for the East nor win a World Series or make it to a WS. Fredie G. will continue to be a under 500 mgr. Good Choice Frank Wren you make ASG look like champions.

TK

October 13th, 2010
11:56 pm

I like the DON BAYLOR idea. On TP…some people he helped a lot. But, a lot he did nothing for… AJ, Frenchy, Kelly, Nate, and Chipper went to his dad for help this year. A hitting coach needs to help a guy when he is going bad get to hitting as quick as possible. It seems TP either could not help them or it took a while to fix the problem.

RJ DAWG

October 13th, 2010
11:57 pm

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Captain

October 13th, 2010
11:59 pm

I too am sad to see Hubby go but like many have said already, it’s part of what happens. The new manager deserves to bring some of his guys and Fredi is probably keeping far more than many other new managers typically do. But to those who are saying we should have kept Hubby in the organization because of his time spent and canned Snitker, are you forgetting that Snitker has been with the Braves since ‘77?

zoxh01

October 14th, 2010
12:01 am

Why is everybody mad about TP??? OOps! I mean Freddie.
I thought TP did a great job with CJ,AJ,DeRosa,Blouser,Limke etc. I remember when Hubbard played for the Braves and I also remember when TP played for the Braves. TP was just as good a player as Hubby and helped the Braves win a World Championship. I really don’t think you can coach discipline. It’s something (IMHO)you learn. I saw a lot of undisciplined hitters during the NLDS. If that’s laid on TP move him where he may be able to help (Infield)…as for Hubby, maybe he was responsible for infielding and Braves definitely weren’t doing much of that all year. I just don’t think you fire a coach who helps you win championships, and then coach your hitters and help to you sustain the winning. TP did well with what he had to work with. Especially, when all the money was spent on the pitching. Don’t think that’s the mindset anymore. Maybe there’s others reasons some of you feel the way you do.

Chris P. Bacon

October 14th, 2010
12:06 am

Glenn Hubbard deserved better than this. The Fredi era begins inauspiciously.

LAG

October 14th, 2010
12:12 am

zoxh01, I have to call you out on two of the points you wanted to make.

1) Pendleton did a good job with Blauser and Lemke? LOL. TP shared the field with them. He wasn’t their coach. Ever.

2) Pendleton wasn’t on the ‘95 team that won the World Series. He was the Marlins’ starting 3B that season.

LAG

October 14th, 2010
12:15 am

A third point:
Andruw Jones improved as a hitter under Don Baylor but regressed under Pendleton (ok, that one was on Andruw, really). And it’s well-documented that Chipper goes to his father for his hitting advice.

Darrell in Myrtle Beach

October 14th, 2010
12:20 am

Don Baylor for hitting Coach. I would have put TP at 3rd. How many train wrecks has Brian Stinker caused coming around 3rd?

Baylor4HittingCoach

October 14th, 2010
12:21 am

I am not happy about Hubbard but ok with TP being moved. All of you complainers finally have ousted TP from his job of “ruining” swings…
Dear Fredi; great press conference today and thank you for being gracious with the man who groomed you. We are all going to miss Bobby and was it me or did he look younger today? Fredi; please do yourself a favor and get Don Baylor back in baseball. A perfect situation would be right here, working on Braves’ swings. Since the post season is now menaingless except to see Frenchy and Andrus get rings, I am already looking forward to the Braves in 2011!!

iChop2249 (formerly wonder2249)

October 14th, 2010
12:23 am

Braves had a horrible batting avg in september and october.

Braves made most errors after the All-Star break…AFTER YUNEL WAS GONE!!

I’m glad this organization has finally got off the snide with loyalty to players…not that they don’t deserve none, but this ain’t the Bobby show no more/.

The Abs Man

October 14th, 2010
12:30 am

Fredi’s first task is to tell Alex Gonzalez, “You suck, and your only option is to leave.”

nash

October 14th, 2010
12:31 am

any word on bringing in Leon Mazzonie

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