3:34 pm October 11, 2010, by David O'Brien
October 11th, 20105:39 pm
Like to see Venters get the call to close tonight. Even bring him in with two outs in the eighth, if necessary.
Give the 8th in Kimbrel. The 7th to Moylan and Dunn. And remember we still have Saito. This guy has been clutch in his long career, and can still bring it. He has a boat-load of career saves. He is supposed to be healthy now.
Wayne in Utah
And if you take back that run in game 1, how many ER’s did our staff give up to their ER’s? (don’t have the inclination to go back and check)
Yes, not a lot of love for the Braves pitching.
Another little known cy young facing the Braves tonight?
October 11th, 20105:40 pm
October 11th, 2010
Phillistein–If I remember correctly, even if Buckner makes that play, it’s still a tie game. And that was only game 6. The Red Sox could have won game 7, but didn’t
And the Red Sux were winning 3-0 in the 6th inning of game 7
October 11th, 20105:41 pm
Brooks, I’m sorry that people have such short memories, Your efforts off the bench won more than one or two games for us, you just hit a rough spell, don’t let it mess up your future as a great bench player. It might help if you look at the so called fan reaction to Troy Glaus, hell if it hadn’t been fro him we wouldn’be where we are here at the end but he too has been creuxfied.
Best of Luck, a true fan.
Okay then Wayne, let’s ask everyone on the blog. Does anyone agree with Wayne and think that baseball players work harder than 90% of the people in America?
Hey, I’d play for 1/2 the minimum, and ride the pines like Diory did!
LPad, some folks just can’t handle that. People react different to different situations. I know Werth flipped on some man and his daughter, I forget why, but something obviously happened that he could not handle. There have also been players who have been booed which it got in their head and they completely had a break down on the field.
October 11th, 20105:42 pm
If they win tonight, we have to all pitch in and fly Southern Hope to SF
October 11th, 20105:43 pm
Wayne, I know if I made that money and I messed up like Conrad I wouldn’t care just because I’d still be wealthy at the end of the day.
Do we count the folks on welfare too?
Question for the blog:
I say that overall, major league baseball players work harder than 90% of Americans. Lpad says no way.
What say ye?
Wayne in Utah–It’s not necessary to trash other bloggers that don’t agree with you.
October 11th, 20105:44 pm
I was at the game last night. What a roller coaster of emotion. My heart goes out to Conrad. In the moment, I was disappointed in the way he played. But people do need to remember his circumstances- basically a third string guy who contributed a great deal to getting the Braves some crucial wins this year. It is unfortunate these errors came at such a crucial time. Keep your head up Conrad. Try to enjoy this post season. Win as a team, lose as a team.
And I agree with some others that the person in charge of the video board should be fired. If you are that ignorant of the game situation, you shouldn’t be in that position. That wasn’t just a mistake, that was a conscious decision to run that video at what could not have been a worse possible moment.
Wayne in Utah–Disagree 90percent of working Americans work harder than ballplayers. Do American workers have off from October to March??
What’s done is done… need to forget about last night… let’s focus on the game tonight. Let’s win this and go to SF! GO BRAVES!!
October 11th, 20105:45 pm
How does a persons salary have anything to do with treating someone with respect and dignity a human being deserves despite a bad game?
Mark, you go in the tool bag.
“If they win tonight, we have to all pitch in and fly Southern Hope to SF”
Put me down for $30.00.
October 11th, 20105:46 pm
DOB in the house! on MLBN now
dave obrien on mlb tonight right now !
Wayne – I hope you aren’t trying to say I’m on welfare because I’m not. Also I don’t think 90% of Americans are on welfare. But then again I got to remember who I’m talking to.
October 11th, 20105:47 pm
LPad..the answer is no, of course, players don’t work as hard as 90% of americans. But just observing this blog as I do often, It is obvious that this Wayne character just likes to state his ludricous opnions and then bad mouth other people for not agreeing with him.
But this is “his” blog so I will stay out of it.
Wayne, do they work a minimum of eight hours a day?
Bat, the ball/strike umpiring in other series has only made Emmel more suspect, hasn’t it? T for Texas
Maybe he has a grudge, maybe he just sucks, but he has been consistently wrong, that’s for sure.
But that pitchtrak has made some of those guys look damned good. Kudos to ‘em.
October 11th, 20105:48 pm
A-Jax, I’m sure the video board operator was trying to remind the fans booing of some of things Brooks did to get them there. Nothing wrong with that. He’s trying to help. What were the fans booing accomplishing, except making Brooks feel worse? Good plan btw…getting booed at home will always help a player. *rollingmyeyes*
According to Jeff Fletcher’s twitter feed Brooks received a standing ovation from the fans during BP. Great move by the fans there.
P-Town Brave ©
October 11th, 20105:49 pm
Let me guess…
All gumdrops and rainbows from DOB on MLBN?
Agreed Shane. We all have to tip-toe around Wayne’s nonsense.
“I say that overall, major league baseball players work harder than 90% of Americans.”
Do you mean 90% of WORKING Americans, or ALL Americans? Big difference.
October 11th, 20105:50 pm
It’s okay to boo the player, but not the person.
October 11th, 20105:51 pm
He’s not as ugly as I pictured.
Let’s all put our rally hats on and win tonight. I want to see Brooks come in tomorrow night in the 9th inning in a tie game and hit a homer off Lincecum for a win!
October 11th, 20105:52 pm
why ankiel over mcclouth? i know the homerun in game 2…w/ the late season improvement with the bat and the gold glove…sorry, he has to start in center for me.
October 11th, 20105:53 pm
Hey- VJ’s got a perfect record attending Braves games too! And San Francisco is a lot closer to LA then Atlanta…if we win tonight, I think you all should send us up north!
I’m cooking right now and just turned around to see our very own DOB on MLB Network!
October 11th, 20105:54 pm
Paul Emmell and Glaus at 3B today – runner tags from 2nd to 3rd on a sac fly to CF/RF. Glaus fumbles but makes the tag. Emmell blows the call.
October 11th, 20105:57 pm
Go “Bruce”!! The anger which turned to pity has now become love. We are still in it with a game to go!!
Lpad, Shane and Playoffs!!!
You guys are hurting my feelings now!
Didn’t you guys hear that the Obaminator appointed me as the Baseball Czar?
I didn’t differentiate (or at least I don’t think I did).
I guess guys what I am saying is that from working out over the winter (easy work, unless they play in the winter leagues), to spring training to the 6+ months season, these guys put in a lot of hours. You have to count time at the park before and after games, time traveling and other miscellaneous time (visiting sick kids in hospitals, unless you are a NY Met, then you can skip that stuff).
I have spent part of my career doing quite a bit of extensive travel, and it sure ain’t easy.
Maybe I am wrong, but I think they work harder than most American’s.
But I AM the Baseball Czar, so you shouldn’t doubt my words either!
October 11th, 20105:58 pm
Pete – It must be real easy to approach life thinking that only you and the people you like work hard.
Lpad…to be completly honest, I don’t really give two shiyts about how hard they work. I agree w/ you that some probably work harder than others. But, I don’t want to hear from bafoons who claim “they work hard”….My brother works hard, he’s been to Iraq twice(going for a third time), he is paid roughly $30,000 a year for working his butt off and putting his life on the line. Most folks I’m friends with work extremly hard to make a living and support their families. We all know that these guys are overpaid…not to mention they get off nearly 5 months a year! I’m sure Wayne will claim they still work hard in the offseason…Ya Wayne I’m sure they’re on the field daily taking grounders, lifting weights, and watching film all winter. Not spending their millions at a farm in Texas, drinking beer, going hunting with George W. every weekend….(see Chipper)
October 11th, 20105:59 pm
DOB was on the cooking channel?
It's a chopper to Chipper
October 11th, 20106:00 pm
Not a big fan of blaming one player for a TEAM’S loss. Brooks in a position we’ve never seen him play, no wonder he made errors. I think it’s a disgrace hearing people boo him last night. Hold your chin up, Brooks, today is a new day.
October 11th, 20106:02 pm
I can give ten reasons why the Braves did not win that game. Brooks Conrad’s errors are just one of the 10. Hitting would be helpful. It tends to cover up some of the mistakes in the field.
Barry Larkin on MLB-TV giving a lotta love to Brooks. And is it true, that if Brooksie redeems himself with a big pinchhit tonight, Disney wants to do a movie about him.
It’s a chooper to Chipper, I believe more of the team can be blamed for their lack of scoring until Hinske hit that home run.
Caren, appreciate your point, but if that was the case, that person was fooling himself thinking the fans, who just witnessed one the greatest moments in Braves history only to be crushed by the comeback and error, would gain any perspective or inspiration upon seeing Conrad’s past heroics. The intentions may have been good, but I think the result was extremely embarrassing for the game operations people and the organization.
October 11th, 20106:03 pm
I travel for business too Wayne. Put in 80 hours last week and will put in another 80 this week. Sorry but I won’t be getting six months off and neither will the vast majority of Americans. I don’t think I work harder than anyone else nor will I say so and so works harder than 90 percent of America either.
“I say that overall, major league baseball players work harder than 90% of Americans.”
Really? Why do you say that?
Let’s see… they work 6 months out of the year. Sure, most of them workout in the off-season, but what, maybe 2 or 3 hours a day? Maybe?
When it’s a “workday” they get to the ballpark a few hours early, run around and stretch, take some swings in the cage. Ok, that’s maybe 20 minutes of real work. Then they play the game. It’s a lot of sitting around. The good ones run a lot more than the bad ones, backing guys up and stuff, but really, are they working that hard? Maybe another hour of real, actual hard work.
Some of the guys study film, some scouting reports, stuff like that. How long does it take to watch film of a pitcher? Maybe a half hour? And they are sitting in a nice comfy chair, basically watching TV during that time.
I know there’s more to it than what I listed above, but I don’t think anyone can say that MLB players work harder than 90% of Americans. Maybe harder than the 10% who are unemployed. Maybe.
Wayne in Utah … yep making some cat fish I believe.
wayne in ut
Must be paying you snake oil salesmen more these days…
October 11th, 20106:04 pm
2B and 3B are his positions. No one is asking him to do more than he should be capable of.
October 11th, 20106:05 pm
DOB – ditto what TennBravesFan said about great choice of song today.
I don’t know how anyone who has followed the team all year can feel anything but bad for Brooks. What’s been happening defensively is awful for him, as well as the team, and couldn’t have come at a worse time. I agree Bobby had no choice but to sit him tonight, for everyone’s sake. It would be great if he can come off the bench and deliver one of those big pinch hits he’s excelled at and help them win tonight. Here’s hoping!
Is there a game tonight? DOB says Tuesday on his blog.
October 11th, 20106:06 pm
I was at the game last night and the loss was on of the most heartbreaking things that I have ever seen. I was furious with the error, but I am equally pissed that that Bobby Cox would pull Kimbrell out with 2 outs… if this guy is going to be our future closer, give the kid a chance to pitch. I really don’t think that the error could have happened if we had stuck with our pitcher.
I still think that Brooks is a great player, and is a huge reason why we are in the playoffs in the first place. Tough break for him last night.
LTBF, there is a game tonight.
You’re not listening. I am not disparaging hard working folks. Not at all. I was there once. I don’t put in the hours I used to because frankly, I am getting too damned old for it!
But what I think I hear is a bit of jealousy from some towards players.
There are a few major league baseball players who had enough talent to go through the motions and make millions.
Most guys come up through the minors without any real guaranteed money, working their kiestes off to try to make it to the big time.
Granted, the game is only 3 hours long. I just think for those that have never been in two or three towns per week, every week for half the summer; can’t really appreciate how hard that can be.
I would never disparage anyone who works hard. Especially our men and women in uniform; as I have a son who serves.
But I will also never be jealous in a bad way (of course, we all want to make more money) of the money these guys make.
Hope all that makes sense.
(PS: It is true. I am the Baseball Czar. If you want to go far as a top notch blogger, just follow me! Don’t believe it, ask of these young guys who have learned from the master!)
October 11th, 20106:08 pm
Thank you Trey
Braves Fan Lost in Ohio
Hey DOB! Nice job on MLB tonight!
(but, why weren’t you looking at the camera?)
Honey, bring me the bottle of scotch(this is going to be a long night)!
October 11th, 20106:09 pm
Good evening everyone…Just read through the blog, seems as if most of us survived the debacle from last night(i was beginning to wonder), and the sun still came up!!
Times are hard on us snake oil salemen these days! We be in recessionary times fow show.
October 11th, 20106:10 pm
What’s your score guess for tonight?
Wayne – they work their butt off just like everybody else. The vast majority of Americans work hard. No one deserves sympathy for having to working hard. Brooks had a tough two weeks but I don’t think he deserves or wants my sympathy. I’ll save it for those who lost their families and loved ones in war, fires and so on.
Wayne, I know if I made that money and I messed up like Conrad I wouldn’t care just because I’d still be wealthy at the end of the day. _ Trey
Well, wealthy is a relative term but still, Conrad is not likely to leave baseball wealthy. The guy got a partial big league salary last year and a full one this year, some playoff money. But who knows how big a hole he is in from playing in the minors all those years. Maybe he makes a team next year and has another good salary . Still he will pay a pretty big tax bill, though not as high a percentage as a guy that makes say 120k, but that’s another story. Anyway, maybe he walks away with one or two hundred thousand, nothing to sneeze at but hardly wealthy. A nice leg up on whatever is next, coaching maybe. Whatever good luck to him.
October 11th, 20106:11 pm
As much press as DOB is getting on TV these days I hope we dont lose him as our every day scribe for the Braves…..Dont think theres a better beat writer in the business. Do not have a lot to go by but still…..gotta be huh?
I used to want to be a ballplayer, but now I’ve decided I want to take over for Howard Stern when he leaves Sirius Radio. The guy works 4 hours a day, 4 days a week, takes a week off, works a couple weeks, takes a week off, etc.
And he’s getting paid a ridiculous amount of money. More than anyone on the Braves (I think). Plus he doesn’t have to travel and has more naked women around him than Chipper could have ever dreamed of.
Ballplayer? Pfffft. Shock jock… that’s the life.
WOW Bobby dropped Heyward in lineup.
Did he have his leather jacket on? He’s cooler than the other side of the pillow!
Let those who have never screwed up at work cast the first stone at Brooks Conrad.
I hope the Atlanta crowd shows some class tonight if he pinch hits. He did help us get here.
Wayne, I wish I made as much as a pro baseball player I will admit. However, I enjoy my job and what I do so I am happy. Of course, when pay day does hit it doesn’t excite me as much as a day or two before hand.
Steve from OH
Real nice blog, DOB. Probably the best one you’ve done in a while, at least that I can recall. Glad someone’s willing to stick up for Conrad.
October 11th, 20106:12 pm
Come on BRAVOS! Let’s go!
You are very welcome LTBF.
October 11th, 20106:13 pm
“Let those who have never screwed up at work cast the first stone at Brooks Conrad.”
If I screwed up like that at work I’d get fired. Not to keep hammering on Brooks, but in the real world, 8 errors in 7 games would mean unemployment.
October 11th, 20106:14 pm
Wayne in Utah .. ha nope, no jacket.
Bat, you do have a point. At least half his career is already over and he won’t ever start making C Jones or Glavine salary, but he is still making $400,000 a year which I believe is/was the salary of the president.
Billy (TBFKB) :
I was in the stands in 1969 when the Braves turned a triple play against the Cubs. I used to listen to Milo Hamilton’s broadcasts on the radio on WSB and across the South. I have Niekro’s autograph on the Furman Bisher book. I mourned when Ron Reed broke his collar bone and Cecil Upshaw ripped out his ring finger. I remember listening to games on the radio where Niekro pitched complete games over and over again and lost half of them. I saw Hank Aaron and Rico Carty and Orlando Cepeda. I watched the mediocre teams of the ’70s. I watched the playoff year in 1982 with Joe Torre when our best playoff game to date was rained out, and then we got swept by the Cards. I watched Bob Gibson destroy our pitching staff and cried when Niekro left for the Yanks. I watched the horrid games of the ’80s when Skip Caray used to tell us it was OK to turn off the TV. I watched the MLB debuts of David Justice, Smoltz, Glavine, and Avery. Cheered in 91, and died a little in the seventh game. Got fired from a job in 1992 because I was watching Sid slide. Watched in 93 when we had our best team ever and got run because we McMichael was not a closer. Suffered through ’94 when the Expos were really a much better team. Exulted in 1995. Cried in 1996. And you know the rest. So don’t dare tell me I haven’t rooted for this team since I was a child. And like I said I’ve seen this train wreck, and I don’t want to see it again. I’m tired. I’m really tired. I’ve seen Cox muff the playoffs too many times. All the same, I hope they win. I just know they won’t. This team excels at heart breaking losses.
I have a feeling about tonights game, some how, some way, they will win one for Bobby. I would hate to have Bobby’s last game a loss at home
October 11th, 20106:15 pm
Good evening Wayne…I’m thinking 5-3 Braves. Lowe i think may struggle just a tad coming off short rest. Do like the lineup change though…love bringing Heyward down in the order. Not sure about Diaz batting 2nd, but what other options can go there?
Murph, if I screwed up I’d have my a** handed to me, so if I do screw up, I can fix it before anyone find out.
October 11th, 20106:16 pm
Wayne in Utah – Game 2: Bobby brings in Farnsworth (out of necessity, but ahead of Beachy and Martinez). If that one had blown up, we’d still be talking about what a knucklehead move that one was. But it worked.
Actually, Bobby was long gone by then. Ejected in the 2nd. None of the moves (good or bad) in game 2 beyond the 2nd inning were Bobby’s doing.
October 11th, 20106:17 pm
I still got your back Brooks. Unfortunate chain of events, but like Huddy mentioned it’s quite possible this team isn’t where they are without him. Even in defeat, a very excruciating one in which it was, it was so refreshing seeing the reaction of the team to support their teammate, and like always look ahead to today and fix it with a win tonight. I’d sure be more confident if they had won, but really fellas if this team has taught us one thing this year, it is to NEVER count them out. This series is no different. This run to win 11 for 6 is STILL alive.
Is anyone else concerned about Hanson getting the ball in Game 5 (and yes, there will be a game 5)?
He seems to be giving up some big homers lately… kinda scary.
My heart is already beating at the speed of light and the game hasn’t even started yet.
A close ball game where we are down by a run will be a torture.
Hey has to put some Wood on the ball today.
blah blah blah…..sorry you wrote so much that I did not read. See you tonight after a win…..
I think you have misundestood something I said, or I did a poor job of stating it.
I didn’t say we should pity or have compassion on Brooks because he worked harder than us. I said he probably has worked as hard over the last 12 years than most folks in general. There are a lot of folks who put in there 40 and that’s it.
And then I stated that I thought in general major league baseball players worked harder than 90% of the population. Maybe I am right, maybe not. But I never said anything about the folks who put their lives on the line.
I am about as full of it as anybody else on the blog. I am opinionated, and always think I am right. Damned character flaws.
But please don’t put words in my mouth that I did not say. You are trying to make it look like I am disparaging hard working folks, and folks that serve and risk their life for us. Ain’t never said that, my friend.
So, if you take it back, the Baseball Czar will give you another chance!
Coach (2011 or Bust)
October 11th, 20106:18 pm
OK, O’Brien. I got it, Brooks stinks right now. So why the hell is Diory Hernandez on the Braves F***ING ROSTER if Cox isn’t going to use him?
Murph, I am more scared of facing Lincecum.
If memory serves me correctly, In our elimination games over past decade we get blown out.
We already know game is over in the 1st inning after being down 5-0.
I hope same doesn’t happen today.
October 11th, 20106:20 pm
Coach–who else can he put on the roster, though? Martin, Chipper, and Hicks are hurt…am I missing anyone else from AAA that can even passably fill the role? He needs someone to back up SS…
October 11th, 20106:22 pm
ESPN just said a small crowd of fans in the OF gave BrooksE a standing O when he was shagging fly balls a little earlier.
I still got love for Brooks Conrad! As the blog outlines for those of you that have forgotten, he did a lot to help the team to the postseason. It was a tough game, tough loss… but as has already been posted, we’ve still got a pulse.
Let’s go Braves!
I hope we at least make the second round this year.
WOW Bobby dropped Heyward in lineup.”
He needs to get him OUT of the lineup.
October 11th, 20106:23 pm
I remember a 2nd baseman for the Dodgers a while back think early 1990s, Steve Sax had same type problems his were throwing errors. he could not throw to 1st base.
That’s right, just like we knew the game was over after Burrell’s home run and Cain’s RBI single, right?
October 11th, 20106:24 pm
An excellent article when it is seriously needed. I’m a life-long Giants fan and my heart hurts for Mr. Conrad. Please, no Donnie Moore reaction – for those who remember the Angels reliever who coughed up a game for the CA Angels back in the 80s. Brooks, now is the time to practice very short-term memory. Honestly, it doesn’t feel all that good when the opponent loses – I would much rather the Giants win.
If we get 3 or 4 runs down…..it’s over.
4 pages of blog comments and nothing from DOB?? what up widat?
Mr. Turnip-Green Jeans
October 11th, 20106:25 pm
Can’t expect a pinch hitter to become Ryne Sandberg from mere necessity.
Brooks was thrust in WAY over his head. As a 30-year-old rookie, he carried the added pressure of trying to extend his Major League dream to next year. Injuries put him on the field daily, at the most critical time possible. That was never meant to be. Just too much for him, I believe.
Can’t blame him, no way..
Speaking of Lincecum, isn’t there some stat that pitcher’s typically have a sub-par performance the next game after throwing a lot of pitches. I know it held true here in AZ with the Unit. Lincecum did throw up somewhere near 120 pitches, right?
October 11th, 20106:26 pm
JD – He’s been in make-up….getting ready for his MLB spot.
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