Conrad out of lineup, Glaus at third base – updated

Three errors in one game for Brooks Conrad made Braves manager Bobby Cox’s decision pretty simple, but not easy.

He sat the struggling second baseman down for Game 4 Monday, even though it meant turning to Troy Glaus at third base, where he’s played only four major league innings this year. Cox moved Omar Infante from third base to second.

“I talked to Brooksy at length this morning and he needs a day off,” Cox said. “He needs to get away from it for a day. And I told him to hold his head high and maybe pinch hit and win a game for us.”

Conrad endured a Bill Buckner-like night Sunday, misplaying two ground balls and a pop-up that cost the Braves two runs in a 3-2 loss. The last straw came in the ninth inning when he allowed a one-hop grounder from Buster Posey to slip untouched through his legs as the winning run scored.

Not surprisingly, Conrad did some tossing and turning Sunday night.

“I didn’t sleep a whole lot,” he said before Monday’s game. “But the sun came up again today and we’re here in the playoffs playing baseball. You can’t beat that. So I’m excited for today.”

Conrad said it helped to go home to his wife Jessie and two young kids.

“That always puts things out of your mind in a hurry,” said Conrad, who has a daughter Reese 1 ½ and son Jax 3. “They just want you to come home and be a dad. It’s pretty cool.”

Cox used his pre-game press conference Monday afternoon to make a plea to Braves fans to continue to support the spark-plug bench player. He heard his share of boos throughout the game Sunday night.

“Fans have really had his back all season long and I’d like to see them continue that,” Cox said. “He needs that help right now.”

Fans at batting practice Monday afternoon didn’t need the prompting. Conrad received an ovation from fans in outfield, when he went down to warm-up. They did not stop cheering until he acknowledged them with a wave.

“I’ve gotten a lot of nice comments from the fans,” Conrad said. “That’s meant a lot to me.”

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The Official Skip Caray T-Shirt

October 11th, 2010
3:10 pm

Bruce Conrad?

RonnieFranchise

October 11th, 2010
3:12 pm

What a strange lineup.
Diaz 2nd? Heyward 6th?
oh well – roll it out there and play ball!

Fish Bisch

October 11th, 2010
3:12 pm

wjones

October 11th, 2010
3:14 pm

“The Official Skip Caray T-Shirt

October 11th, 2010
3:10 pm
Bruce Conrad?”

See how error-plagued he is?

Andy

October 11th, 2010
3:14 pm

That’s gotta be tough for Bobby to do, as much as he loves to stick up for his players. I like the Heyward move too, take a little pressure off the kid. As if this mattered, I got moved from 1st to 9th in the order once back in high school and went 3-3 with a double. Maybe J-Hey can pull the big-boy version today.

ShaunC

October 11th, 2010
3:15 pm

Confused about Glaus at 3B when we have other options.

Hope Heyward goes on a tear tonight. 2 HR.

Logic Police

October 11th, 2010
3:15 pm

lol, wjones with the win!!!

TG from CA

October 11th, 2010
3:15 pm

I love it! Just hearing that news has me excited again! Go Braves!

RHR

October 11th, 2010
3:15 pm

Woah. J-Hey batting 6th, Glaus at 3rd. Diaz batting 2nd?

Looks like ‘ol 6 didn’t get a wink of sleep last night. :lol: I like it.

Hope to see Bruce come off the bench with a PH homer late in the game.

Its win or go home…again. Go get ‘em, Braves!

Roy Hobbs

October 11th, 2010
3:15 pm

Way to shake it up Bobby. Let’s get back to SF for a Game 5!

clay

October 11th, 2010
3:15 pm

Love the new look. But it might be a little to late. Should have used the lineup in september. I like J hey in the 6 hole. It will make pitchers pitch to him instead of jamming him on every pitch. I think we score atleast 6 tonight.

Lost on I-285

October 11th, 2010
3:16 pm

wtf with ankiel in there ? put in melky. gonzalez 5th ? did bc draw the lineup out of a hat ?

Lil Red

October 11th, 2010
3:16 pm

Go Braves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Desibrave

October 11th, 2010
3:16 pm

Very interesting lineup..,

I am sure the Giants batting practice today will be only Bunting to 3rd :)

richham

October 11th, 2010
3:16 pm

What took so long? This is why I will be glad to see bobby cox leave. He is loyal to a fault. Conrad is a horrible third baseman. He is a big part of the reason why we lead the majors in errors after the all star break. It’s better to have someone who is a good fielder and hope our pitching can keep us in it versus someone with some pop who couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. The guy doesn’t belong on a major league roster, period!

glord1

October 11th, 2010
3:18 pm

I like the line up. Its the best we can put out there tonight IMHO.

JEB

October 11th, 2010
3:18 pm

Good for Bobby!
He wants to win – and you have to shake things up to do that some times!
Really should have played Glaus in there for several games!
I just didn’t get it! Glaus has been healing for over a month how long is it going to take to get his legs back healthy?? Plus, he is more of a threat in the lineup than Brooks – Brooks is better off the bench.
Plus, all this concern for Glaus at 3b and they put him in there for defensive purposes Fri. night.
If they could do it then – why could they not do it for the other games??
Like I said, just did not get it…

Spud Webb

October 11th, 2010
3:20 pm

Good move, heyward is squezzing too tight. Drop him down and let him relax. Should’ve been done last game.
Glaus can’t move, but what he can get to he’ll make the plays. That’s all thats needed.
Win tonight Braves, I’m optomistic!!!

Spud Webb

October 11th, 2010
3:20 pm

JEB, well put!

Gray Dawg

October 11th, 2010
3:20 pm

ShaunC, what other options?

southern hope

October 11th, 2010
3:21 pm

I hate to saw it, but Bruce Conrad will be ideal as our pinch hitter…

Fish Bisch

October 11th, 2010
3:21 pm

My lineup:
1. Hernandez
2. Infante
3. Lee
4. McCann
5. Ankiel
6. Diaz
7. Hinske
8. Lowe
9. Conrad

reno

October 11th, 2010
3:21 pm

Bobby makes some moves! Good for him. We feel for “Bruce” Conrad (is it so bad that you can’t even get his name right a day later?), but it’s time to “shake up” the lineup.
Our “young gun” pitchers (Kimbrel, Dunn in particular) need to learn from the SF pitchers – once you are ahead in count with heat, you DO NOT throw something in the hitting zone. You put every pitch in the dirt or off the plate until you have to come back in with your best pitch – the fast ball. Watch the SF pitchers – Lincecum in particular. He got ahead of batters with heat and then refused to put anything near the hitting zone. McCann insisted on swinging 3-2 after three straight breaking balls in the dirt (and with two outs, first base open, Melky up next) and swung right over a fourth breaking ball in the dirt. Stupid!
Our guys get ahead and then probably because they are young and inexperienced and have been told repeatedly to “throw strikes,” they do! When they don’t have to and shouldn’t. Stupid!

Mattyice

October 11th, 2010
3:22 pm

“Bruce” conrads errors are becoming contagious… Ain’t that right DOB

Bunt single

October 11th, 2010
3:22 pm

I’ll be a recurring factor tonight as SF punishes a nearly crippled Glaus. (Perhaps Bobby will have Troy play 30 feet in front of the bag, wearing a catcher’s mask.)

clay

October 11th, 2010
3:22 pm

Love Diaz in the 2 hole. He is a good OBP guy. Everyone wanted to see glaus out there so looks like bobby is giving the fans what they want. Who is a better option than Glaus? Please dont say Diory either. Get off the blog if you think that.

Bill James

October 11th, 2010
3:22 pm

how can you be stuck with ankiel/mcclouth/melky, who are all horrible vs LHP’s, when you know you are facing sanchez and bumgarner ? joke.

Michael

October 11th, 2010
3:22 pm

Cox didn’t have a choice, but knowing how things have gone for the Braves this year, Glaus or somebody else will probably make another season killing error because that’s just how it has been all year.

joe

October 11th, 2010
3:23 pm

Put a fork in them The Braves are done!

Jason Williams

October 11th, 2010
3:24 pm

I love it, love it, love it! Go Braves!

mike lum

October 11th, 2010
3:24 pm

Glad you had a good game, Andy. Melky looks like Babe Ruth…in the field. Stick with Ankiel while he’s hot. Gonzo can come through in the clutch. All the breaks have been going SF’s way…it’s time for that to change!

Conrad = Buckner

October 11th, 2010
3:24 pm

I like this. Good for you Booby to mix it up. Jason isn’t seeing anything to hit and this lineup will allow him more opportunities. Either way, this lineup is 1000X better without Conrad in there. Go Braves! Win One For Bobby!

williamshakespeare

October 11th, 2010
3:24 pm

Between Conrad, Scott Rolen, Phillips and Utley, I can’t recall a postseason past that featured such high-adventure infield defense.

P-Town Brave ©

October 11th, 2010
3:24 pm

Sad that Bobby is waiting til his last game to make necessary changes…

:roll:

wjones

October 11th, 2010
3:25 pm

“ShaunC

October 11th, 2010
3:15 pm
Confused about Glaus at 3B when we have other options. ”

??????? Confused about your post. Chipper is on the DL, if you heard, as is Prado. Eddie Mathews is dead. Anxious to hear what other ideas you might have.

SG10

October 11th, 2010
3:26 pm

Seriously, what took so long for this line-up? If Glaus’ defense has been limited by knees, hasn’t he rested enough to recover. We should have tried this lineup in the first game itself to see if Glaus is ready. Conrad making 4 errors in last three 3 games of the regular season was enough to convince he is not ready.

Yes, we will see how Glaus handles bunts towards him..and if he can’t, he can be replaced by Diory. Any hitter bunting towards even the slowest guys has to be really fast to convert that into a hit..If Glaus doesn’t mess up his throw, he will do fine…I expect Giants first batter to bunt over towards Glaus.

Good to see Brooks and maybe Dunn

October 11th, 2010
3:26 pm

not participating.

Maybe they can sing the National Anthem.

VaHiDawg

October 11th, 2010
3:26 pm

my line up

1. Infante-1B
2. Cabrera- LF
3. Diaz- RF
4. Ross- C
5. Glaus- 3B
6. McClouth- CF
7. Hernandez- SS
8. Conrad- 2B
9. Lowe- P

No, I’m not serious.

hdhd

October 11th, 2010
3:26 pm

Brooks is better to have as a PH coming off the bench. And he will. And I bet he will have homerun anger in him.

BuckheadBill

October 11th, 2010
3:26 pm

Heres hoping that Brooks Conrad hits a grand slam in bottom of 9th with 2 out and 2 strikes. Go Brooks !!!!

williamshakespeare

October 11th, 2010
3:26 pm

Hey, Melky and the Babe have something else in common….WS rings ;)

williamshakespeare

October 11th, 2010
3:27 pm

…meanwhile, Javy wasn’t even included on the Yankees’ ALDS active roster…

Dan in West Georgia

October 11th, 2010
3:28 pm

The only other options would be Hinske (a left-hander with *past* 3B experience), or Hernandez, who is a shortstop who can’t hit. You’d have to have Hernandez at 2nd base where he may be rusty, and put Omar back at 3rd when he is a much better 2nd baseman.

williamshakespeare

October 11th, 2010
3:29 pm

Dunn is going to be a good lefty out of the bullpen for the Braves.

Churchy

October 11th, 2010
3:29 pm

Diory isn’t a bad option instead of Conrad. Although Diory would probably be 0-4, at least he wouldn’t give up any runs, which in a low scoring game is huge.
Glaus is the only other option. I don’t really like it but at least there is a chance that he can make a few hits.

Wes

October 11th, 2010
3:29 pm

Good thing Melky isn’t starting… He jogs to balls in the outfield and doesn’t know how to swing the bat… He just kinda slaps at it.

Conrad = Buckner

October 11th, 2010
3:29 pm

I still believe! The atomosphere at Turner Field last night was electric. Havn’t seen that stadium rocking that loud since the 90’s playoff games. Seeing that many tomahawks chopping brought back great memories. Hope the Braves can make some new ones tonight. Got to find a way.

Mr. Enigma

October 11th, 2010
3:29 pm

Glaus has no less mobility than 2010 Chipper Jones did, so this really isn’t much of a problem.

The Abs Man

October 11th, 2010
3:30 pm

Las Vegas just posted Over.Under @ 7 “bunts-attempted” by Giants tonight……

Heavy action on “over.”
Line just moved to 7 1/2…

Wyoming

October 11th, 2010
3:31 pm

Had to be done. You can’t keep running him out there when the guy is making 7 errors in 8 games. I mean Glaus can’t possible be that limited that he will be any worse than Conrad. And maybe this move boosts his confidence when he can come in as a late-inning pinch. That’s what he did all year.

I like the shift in the lineup too. Heyward just looks like he’s showing his age and inexperience out there. Would be nice for him to get at least a hit in his first postseason.

Let’s win this one and make it even more dramatic by going back to SF for game 5.

GO BRAVOS. Nice work DOB.

williamshakespeare

October 11th, 2010
3:31 pm

Hey Wes, Melky doesn’t like you, either.

The Abs Man

October 11th, 2010
3:32 pm

“If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right.”
- Jerry, to George, in “The Opposite”

Banner tonight when Cox makes bullpen move….

john

October 11th, 2010
3:32 pm

My lord, Glaus??? He’s gotten even fatter over the last few months. Another Conrad nightmare waiting to happen in the field.

mike

October 11th, 2010
3:32 pm

lineup doesn’t even matter anymore without our best two hitters in the lineup. just gotta go out there and make it happen. let’s go braves!!!

bruce mac

October 11th, 2010
3:32 pm

Yea, put Melky in there. Some of these bloggers apparently never have watched a game. Ankiel, remember him. He is the reason we are still playing. Duh!!!!!!!

warrens braves

October 11th, 2010
3:33 pm

this is the lineup they should have run out there last night. good idea to move heyward down, bring up diaz and put glaus in there instead of brooks. now im gonna kick myslef in the ass if this lineup propels this team to a game 5. i think glaus has something left. please win braves!!!!

SadDawg

October 11th, 2010
3:34 pm

Better late than better, Bobby.

Hope Brooks hits the game-winning RBI pinch-hitting.

The Abs Man

October 11th, 2010
3:34 pm

At least have to credit Cox with thinking out of the box…..with Game #4 lineup.

So good for that….but you would have to think SF tonight sets all-time recond for bunts….whew, hurts just thinking about broke-down legs charging in from 3B…

Cale

October 11th, 2010
3:35 pm

Nice lineup Fish Bisch..real smart to lead off a Gwinnett Player that couldn’t even hit .300 in AAA, hope you are kidding.

Tomahawk Holmes

October 11th, 2010
3:35 pm

I hope Bruce Conrad gets stuck on I-285 looking for the TED exit

williamshakespeare

October 11th, 2010
3:35 pm

Yea, put Melky in there. Some of these bloggers apparently never have watched a game. Ankiel, remember him. He is the reason we are still playing. Duh!!!!!!!
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umm…if Melky doesn’t foul off a hundred pitches and beat out that errant throw to first, there’s no 2nd run and no opportunity to get A-Gon to the plate for the 2-run double.

The Red

October 11th, 2010
3:36 pm

At least I understand why everyone wants Diory in the lineup. Every hit he’s had this year has been a homerun!

Of course, it was also the ONLY hit he’s had this year.

jeff

October 11th, 2010
3:36 pm

If only they were hitting off batting tees.

Dav

October 11th, 2010
3:36 pm

ShaunC was referring to Terry Pendleton

SadDawg

October 11th, 2010
3:36 pm

Andy: “I got moved from 1st to 9th in the order once back in high school and went 3-3 with a double.”
********************************
Play Andy, Bobby!

aland

October 11th, 2010
3:36 pm

Hey Braves Fans:
This should have been done last night,end of story
A Disgruntled Season Ticket Holder

WHATEVER

October 11th, 2010
3:37 pm

If this lineup works, we sure better be seeing it from her on out. But I do imagine Bobby will put his favorite players back in if they advance. And thats a big IF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Andrew

October 11th, 2010
3:37 pm

why not start erik hinske somewhere? can he play anywhere else in the infield besides 1st base? he has the experience. he played in the world series with the red sox a few years back. he should take the place of conrad.

The Abs Man

October 11th, 2010
3:38 pm

Would rather play with 8 men, than use Melk-Dud.

Gen Neyland

October 11th, 2010
3:38 pm

Heyward deseves no better than 6th in the line up. We need the Braves to find their bats. The ones they’re using have too many holes in them. Maybe they could all use Hinske’s…Shoot Glaus full of Go Juice and he has a game at 3rd…When EH let it ride last night I told my wife, “Somebody wants to win this thing..!” That goes for Hudson too.

George W

October 11th, 2010
3:38 pm

LOVE THE LINEUP… PUT BROOKS BACK IN HIS PLACE… COMING OFF THE BENCH… LOVE THE POWER POTENTIAL WE HAVE IN TONIGHTS LINEUP…

Rambunz

October 11th, 2010
3:38 pm

I find it amazing how the Braves have gotten so far with such a weak lineup (other than pitching). I think this may be Bobby’s finest year not withstanding a few bloopers in yesterday’s game.

Terry Pendleton

October 11th, 2010
3:38 pm

Don’t worry ya’ll. I’m gonna tell my boyz not to be swingin’ at balls and takin’ strikes tonight.

Rupert

October 11th, 2010
3:40 pm

I laugh that it has taken this long to try Glaus because of his “defensive liabliites” when he’s made the most critical defensive play in the series, while the man he is replacing has proven, even before the playoffs to be a HUGE defensive liability. He made critical errors that changed 2 of the Phllies games and has committed all these errors in this series. Bottom line, it’s fine to root for him, like some on here do. And I will if and when he pinch hits tonight. BUT this whole feeling sorry for a pro ball player who sad. He has a job, he hasn’t done his job. While baseball is a team game, his indiviual preformance has cost the Braves enormously in this series. When you don’t preform, you sit on the bench. Have a seat Conrad and think about what you have done.

SadDawg

October 11th, 2010
3:40 pm

I’d play Huddy in LF. Hell, he’s got as many hits as the rest of the outfield . . .

Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor?

October 11th, 2010
3:40 pm

Thanks DOB. These are good moves from Bobby….We have nothing to lose making these changes. Infante has NOT been playing that great at 3rd, so we don’t lose much defensivley there and Conrad’s back on the bench where he’s most comfortable. Troy adds some pop to our line up and Conrad comes off the bench late w/ a key pinch hit. See you in SF. Go Braves!

bruce mac

October 11th, 2010
3:40 pm

WilliamS, did you even watch the game? Melky didn’t beat out nothing. Gung Foo Panda booted it. That is why he isn’t playing anymore. Melky has not done crap in a month. You can have him on your team, I will take Ankiel all day and all night. And I guaranty you so will everyone on this team. Loafer Melky needs to go somewhere else and also add salad to his diet.

Braves One

October 11th, 2010
3:40 pm

At last…the lineup as it should be! Or should I say…the way it should have been for a long time now.

Congrats to Bobby for seeing the wisdom of batting Heyward in an RBI spot and placing a “thinking man’s” hitter like Matty in the 2 hole. Matty is know for timely hits and can lay down a bunt, ideal for #2.

Not sure about Gonzalez protecting McCann, I think Heyward would have been better there, but its a change. It took facing elimination for Bobby to finally change things for the better, but its a much needed change.

I like Brooksy coming off the bench like the “good ole days”.

Troy may want to ‘cheat’ in a bit tonight as the speedsters will be looking to bunt on him. If he can nail the first one that tries he may send a message he can play third again and stymie the strategy.

I’m liking our chances a bit more now.

williamshakespeare

October 11th, 2010
3:41 pm

That’s alright. I have enough love for Melk Man to make up for the lot of you haters.

Why not Diory?

October 11th, 2010
3:41 pm

So why not Alex or Hinske at 3B, Diory SS and Omar 2B? Is this the Latin Bias? No not Len Bias.

That would give some more speed, plus leave Conrad, Alex or Hinske and Glaus as pinch hitters and late subs. I would gamble and go with Nate, Matt D and J Hey as OFs…. using Ankiel, Melky and Freeman as replacements – sub runners, etc.

Either way.. we still run into trouble because no one is really producing except Hinske.

I am afraid to watch tonight… might be a nightmare.

BruceBruce Bruce Bruce

October 11th, 2010
3:42 pm

It’s not really a good alias changing BROOKS to BRUCE.

in all seriousness…is Diory Hernandez a figment of Bobby’s imagination? If dude is on the roster, why doesn’t he EVER play?

Casey Stinkle

October 11th, 2010
3:42 pm

I would just love to see Conrad hit a walk-off homer in the ninth tonight. And if/when he comes to bat in the ninth fans, just remember, he won us more games than McCann, Chipper, and Heyward combined. So try not to boo the guy.

Boonie

October 11th, 2010
3:42 pm

I’m liking that lineup.

PhilliesWin

October 11th, 2010
3:42 pm

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NO BUNTING!!

October 11th, 2010
3:43 pm

Maybe Stevie will show up and let all the Giants know that bunting will not be allowed in tonight’s game!

The Abs Man

October 11th, 2010
3:44 pm

Overlooked having Glaus at 3B:

If Troy wasn’t so broke-down and clumsy, would Wagner still be healthy?

SadDawg

October 11th, 2010
3:44 pm

It’s always a nightmare when Bobby starts his pullpen abuse . . .

williamshakespeare

October 11th, 2010
3:44 pm

I also find it interesting that there’s a contingent on here slamming J-Hey but apologizing for Conrad. Guess those “fair haired” types get a pass, while a friggin’ ROOKIE, who happens to NOT be a “fair haired” boy has already begun to be dubbed “lazy.” How pathetically predictable. He’s only the future of your franchise, while the guy you’re falling all over yourselves apologizing for is a YUGO who has little business wearing an infielder’s glove.

Any way, Go Braves, reel in Game 4 and we go from there.

CoxLastGame

October 11th, 2010
3:44 pm

Benching conrad? I can see it. In the long run, Phillies will win in 5 regardless of who they play. On a roll.

Andrew

October 11th, 2010
3:44 pm

Hinske can play outfield too, so PH him for ankiel if hes strugling

John Nail

October 11th, 2010
3:44 pm

lets not despair! If we had won last night we would have faced Lincecum tonite and likely lost and gone back to SF anyway. This way we can still win and get to game 5 and have a chance….

Glaus will be a factor tonite and JHey will wakeup in the 6 hole – where he dis most of his April/May damage. Diaz is a serious gamer and “Bruce” will come off the bench as to PH and impact the game.

Let em bunt at Troy and I think they will be surprised that the old dog who has player over 11,000 major league games at 3rd can still play on instinct – as he showed Friday nite – on bad – but well rested knees.

These guys have done everything do or die this year and this is no different!

Go Bravos!!!

PDOG

October 11th, 2010
3:44 pm

My lineup
Infante
McClouth
Lee
McCann
Glaus
Heyward
Diaz
Gonzo
Lowe
I like having Nate in the two hole to either move a runner over and to get some speed injected into the lineup and please just let Kimbrell close the game if it gets that far.

BruceBruce Bruce Bruce

October 11th, 2010
3:44 pm

PhilliesWin: proud of beating the littleRedchokemachine?

Rambunz

October 11th, 2010
3:44 pm

I see another Georgia player was arrested. Go Dawgs! Soon the team will have its own bail bondsman.

The Abs Man

October 11th, 2010
3:45 pm

SadDawg: More than a nightmare. Adventure in terror when Cox mixes and mismanages bullpen.

Unknown Hinson

October 11th, 2010
3:45 pm

BruceBruce Bruce Bruce

October 11th, 2010
3:45 pm

John Nail Glaus will be a factor…yes FrankGlaus at 3rd is a factor alright…this may be the first time ever a team bunts the bases loaded.

SadDawg

October 11th, 2010
3:46 pm

Amen, Casey, we finish 4 games behind the Padres in the wildcard w/o Conrad.

Stanley Crowe

October 11th, 2010
3:47 pm

Interesting, yes. Good — we’ll see. I think the idea of a shakeup is OK, and it might refocus our hitters’ thinking. And — sentimental fool that I am — I like starting the guy without whom we wouldn’t be here: Troy Glaus. I don’t think he’ll do anything stupid tonight. Experience counts for something. Meanwhile, Brooks shouldn’t feel too bad. We rode that horse as far he could take us — which was quite a bit. Who knows — maybe he’ll relax and get a big hit tonight. I think we can win this one, and it would be nice to get some runs early. We’re surely due to do that.

Bobby

October 11th, 2010
3:48 pm

It’s too bad it has to come to this. I feel awful for Conrad, but there’s a reason he’s a 30 year old rookie. I’m not trying to diss on him, because there’s no playoffs without him. He won 6 games for them. However, the reality of the situation is this game was lost when Wagner got hurt. If he was there, it probably would have never come down to that situation. As good as Kimbrel & Dunn have been, they are not closers yet. Pitching in the 8th is alot different than the 9th. To me that’s a bigger loss than Prado, which no one is really discussing. It’s all about Conrad’s errors and Prado’s absence. Wagner’s injury is the turning point of this series.

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