Next for Braves: Lowe vs. Bumgarner in NLDS Game 4, 7:37 p.m.

Game 4 vs Giants

Probable starters: RH Derek Lowe (16-12, 4.00) vs. LH Madison Bumgarner (7-6, 3.00)

Monday’s matchup:

• Lowe lost to Tim Lincecum 1-0 in Game 1 in San Francisco, while allowing only one run in 5 1/3 innings. He allowed four hits, including a run-scoring single Omar Infante should have at least been knocked down at third. Lowe makes his second start in his last three on three days’ rest. He held the Marlins to one run in 5 2/3 innings in a 5-1 win Sept. 29 on three days’ rest. The last time he pitched in the postseason on three days’ rest was Game 4 of the 2008 NLCS with LA. He gave up two earned runs in five innings in a no-decision in a 7-5 loss to the Phillies. He went 2-0 with a 2.38 ERA in two regular season starts against the Giants.

• After winning Game 3 Sunday night, Giants manager Bruce Bochy elected to go with the rookie left-hander in Game 4 rather than Lincecum on three days’ rest. The Braves have never faced Bumgarner, which is a scary proposition for a team that struggles against unfamiliar pitchers. Bumgarner is is making his postseason debut on 10 days’ rest. He was sharp to finish the season though, allowing only one earned run in 12 innings while winning his last two starts against the Diamondbacks and Cubs. He walked two and struck out 16 in those games. He’s 6-3 with a 1.91 ERA in 10 games on the road this season.

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Ray Parker Jr.

October 10th, 2010
11:50 pm

Season over tomorrow? Magic 8 ball says yes.

GT2010

October 10th, 2010
11:53 pm

I has at the Game tonight. You seriously could have heard a pen drop after Conrads walk off grand slam video. Tough brake, lets get this game tomorrow and take care of business in San Fran.

Mathman

October 10th, 2010
11:57 pm

If I were Cox, I would put an all righty lineup tomorrow:

Infante CF
Melke RF
Lee 1B
Glaus 3B
Diaz LF
Ross C
Gonzales SS
Hernandez 2B
Lowe P

Cox won’t do this. So, Braves will lose. They can’t hit rookies.

GT2010

October 11th, 2010
12:00 am

Line up Game 4

1 Infante
2 Heyward
3 Lee
4 McCann
5 Diaz
6 Hinske
7 Gonzo
8 Ankiel
9 Lowe

GT2010

October 11th, 2010
12:02 am

Hinske at 3B

PMC

October 11th, 2010
12:05 am

All they can do now is shake it off and go play. Everyone knows Conrad is sorry and he’s trying his best. Shake it off Raw Dog and go hit another Pinch Hit Grand Slam if you’re not in there tomorrow.

They’ve been flirting with disaster all season. They can do it. The bats will be there tomorrow. Braves win and we take it back to San Francisco. It was never going to be easy.

@Glausosaurus

October 11th, 2010
12:07 am

@GT2010 — I was at the game, too. I couldn’t hear that pin drop over Braves fans booing Conrad during the video. Wow, I’ve not seen Braves fans turn on a player like that before.

GT2010

October 11th, 2010
12:14 am

@Glausosarus, I’m talking right before the video started. You talking about tearing the heart out of a crowd. I heard 5 year old kids cussing conrads name.

Ghost of Leyritz

October 11th, 2010
12:15 am

There is no next for the Braves. The season went scooting through Brooks Buckner’s legs (his glove too). It was a helluva bunt though

GT2010

October 11th, 2010
12:16 am

Cox never should have pulled kimble. Cox started this sh**.

Edge

October 11th, 2010
12:31 am

Cox lost this game for us. He never pays attention to stats or past history. 3rd time Dunn has been in to face Huff, who hits lefties as well as righties. Kimbrel has been our best releiver in the playoffs. No way does he cough up the lead even with 2 guys on.

I love Bobby and what he’s done but this is his legacy. Overmanaging the bullpen late in the season.

Craig the K

October 11th, 2010
12:31 am

It’s over for Conrad. As much as we all love the underdog, he has been making a bundle of errors even before the postseason. I think his mind state is in the dumps and it would be better for Cox and the team to move on with another option. Diory is a better fielder than Brooks and Omar. I think we will see Diory spark us to victory. I’m sorry Brooks, but leave your glove at home. Pinch-hit hero and that’s where it stops. Not a bad role to have on a team.

Edge

October 11th, 2010
12:33 am

@ GT. Your lineup is good and all but we can’t have 4 of’s. Someone has to play 3rd.

BrooksandDONE

October 11th, 2010
12:34 am

i just knew sumthing like this was going to happen to Brooks after that ball got lost in his jersey a few months ago while filling in for Chipper on 3rd… Anybody remember seeing that? Heres the video link http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100623&content_id=11478652&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Innocent Bystander

October 11th, 2010
12:51 am

I agree with most that Bobby’s main two flaws are (1) mismanaging a bullpen and (2) overmanaging. The first problem can actually be a benefit come playoff time, as he will roll out his same guys regardless of how many days they have rested, etc. The second, however, really hurts when it counts the most.

It hurt Bochy when he brought in Wilson two nights ago in the 8th, it hurt Bobby tonight when he took out Kimbrel w/ 2 out. No way Kimbrel gives up those two runs, he was on fire in the 9th.

BrooksandDONE

October 11th, 2010
12:54 am

Don’t tell Conrad the new game time for 2moro….just saying

Daniel

October 11th, 2010
12:55 am

We have to face a guy we’ve never faced before in game 4??? Given our track record of rookie pitchers and washed up starters with 5+ ERAs looking like Cy Young when they face us, I don’t expect us to win tomorrow. And it hurts me to say that, but I don’t like our chances.

cbasket

October 11th, 2010
12:56 am

I will be at the game on Monday, but if Conrad is in the starting lineup, meet me at the game and you can have my stub. He’s the poorest excuse for a fielder I’ve ever seen. Take that glove away from him and give him two bricks.

stew

October 11th, 2010
1:01 am

Never say die! Game was lost because we couldn’t hit Sanchez. Brooks really contributed in a pinch hit role. Maybe, they move Infante back to second and play Diory at third. Kimbrel got beat by throwing a mistake to Freddie Sanchez (a breaking ball to speed up his bat). How many times has this happened with the game on the line? Wohlers to Leyritz? Dunn to Huff? How many balls is jason gonna miss over his head? He doesn’t get back to the fence quick enough. He doesn’t throw anybody out. We’ve got one arm in the outfield (Ankiel). I haven’t seen McLouth even try to throw somebody out. The popup that Brooks dropped should have been caught, but Jason should have got there also. The awesome aussie is becoming the not so awesome aussie. Pitch selection killed us in the end,

cbasket

October 11th, 2010
1:10 am

Hey Brooks: Infield practice at 9AM. You don’t have to bring your glove.

GT2010

October 11th, 2010
1:16 am

@Edge, Look at the post below my lineup. Hinske 3B.

kelly

October 11th, 2010
1:29 am

I am disgusted with the fans Booing Conrad,
So sad.
Wouldn’t be here without him you idiots.
MK

3Dawgz

October 11th, 2010
1:48 am

Heyward who? You mean that lazy guy in the outfield?

Supes

October 11th, 2010
1:53 am

Hey Kelly, he was cheered like nobody’s business when he had those huge hits early in the season…and he deserved them all…and he deserved what he got today as well, his amateurish defensive play and Cox’s over managing cost us the game. This isn’t little league when everyone gets cheered no matter what. He’s a grown up, I’m sure he can handle it. Criticism is part of the job. FLA fans booed their offensive coordinator during the LSU game, SF fans booed Alex Smith during sunday night football…I guess those are “bad fans” too right? Not in Atlanta, we don’t do that, we are “good fans”.

Craig the K

October 11th, 2010
2:14 am

I’m not really about booing the guys on the team I support. I understand the reaction, but at the same time we gotta support the team. The guys in the clubhouse love Brooks and I think it’s only fair that we share their support no matter how horrible the play. It’s all about the “W”, but Brooks seems like a good enough person to the point where I’d still have his back. We’re gonna need him at some point again…and don’t act like we weren’t all over his nuts with his late game heroics. Like I said earlier, pinch-hit hero is not a bad role to have on the team. Squash these Giants like they were Midgets!

Mr. Enigma

October 11th, 2010
2:59 am

If Conrad’s in the starting lineup, I’m not even turning the game on.

Braves Believer

October 11th, 2010
3:03 am

I’m as disgruntled and frustrated as the next guy. Point well taken that this is not little league. But in this case you’ve got a player whose defensive skills sat largely idle for months until pressed into service at the most critical time. I agree a switch at 3rd is desirable (and likely!), but just a warning of reality that Glaus/Hinske/Diory have even less team continuity at the position. A change will create infield indecision in a game when instincts and fielding chemistry win/lose games. This entire team is pressing as hard as possible, so booing any member only detracts at this point. We have the best home record for a reason; let’s keep this thing going!

MattyRoss

October 11th, 2010
3:52 am

Braves believer…I hear what you’re saying, but we got a pretty clear indicator that infield instincts and chemistry were fine with Glaus at 3rd in game 2. We might have to suffer through some bunt attempts, but that’s fine by me.

Philsfan

October 11th, 2010
4:26 am

Please push it to 5 games. It would be nice if Lincecum has to pitch again so he isn’t available for game 1. Heck, it would be even better if you guys win the series because that would make for an easy NLCS.

How many errors does Conrad have to make before Cox takes him out of the game? Geez, just put Glaus at 3rd and Infante at 2nd. .

is30303

October 11th, 2010
5:10 am

last I checked Bobby gets paid to make decisions but the players get paid to execute.

Conrad has to field the ball better – that isn’t on Bobby. Of the options left, “glass knee Glaus” and “pitch hitter phenom” Hinkse – aren’t much better than Conrad. But of the two, I’d put Hinske at 3rd.

geno

October 11th, 2010
5:37 am

I’ve been a Braves fan since they’ve been in Atlanta and it pains me to watch such a collapse…Our hitting obviously leaves no room for errors of any sort (including pitching errors)…

It seems only fitting that we take the final game at home and then travel to face the Freak in SF….I’ve counted them out before and been proven wrong…I hope that is the case again…Go Braves!

Bill M.

October 11th, 2010
5:53 am

I’m still behind Braves 110% but Bobby Cox just don’t get it. He can’t see that Conrad is a mental mess. I remember all the good that Conrad has done but he needs to sit tonite. So what if feeling’s get hurt. That’s the problem with this team, Bobby is to blind to see. I hope they win but I will be so glad when season is over and we can turn the page on Cox. He doesn’t know how to manage a pen., never has. He should have left Kimbrel in or brought in Farnworth. Wren get ready, this is going to be an interesting off season. The whole concept of this team has got to change. Let’s get back to good pitching and defense. They can save alot by not bringing back over half of this team.They need two OF’s with speed and some power that plays great defense. Find a shortstop that plays great defense. If it takes it, I’m for trading JJ & McCann. They didn’t miss JJ & McCann’s defense is horrible and he can’t run a lick. Find a good defensive catcher to go with Ross. Go Braves and let’s go to SF and win it.

chopper jonesey

October 11th, 2010
6:16 am

i can care less about the fans booing brooks. he deserved every b to the final ooooooo! this guy is a professional and commits 3 errors in a playoff game. and i seen a stat where he has committed 7 in his last 8 games. booooo! what are they paying you for? d lee and j heyward are making me sooo angry! our line up is terrible! if i were a starter.. expecially if i were tommy hanson i wouldnt have any love for my lineup. weve had great pitching all year and a lack of effort in both side of the batters box.. i love the braves.. always will. but its not fair to the fans how theyve done us these past 20 years or so. we should have at least 5 rings.. at least! i still have faith, but i feel like us going against a rookie pitcher is like facing roy halladay on a no hit feeling nite… go braves. show some heart at the plate!!

chopper jonesey

October 11th, 2010
6:17 am

.conrad is a pinch hitting chuck knoblauch.. maybe spelled it wrong but u know who i mean..he may never get over this one…

Roscoe P. Coltrain

October 11th, 2010
6:21 am

What Magic Stick does Cox use to make you think the outcome will be any different THIS time?

Hooter Girl

October 11th, 2010
6:40 am

If you keep doing things the same way you can expect the same results. Bobby should be on his knees asking his team to forgive him for being such a bullheaded manager with no flexibility. Brooks did not make the plays, but Cox put him in a position to fail, and once again overmanaged the bullpen.

Captain Kangaroo

October 11th, 2010
7:14 am

If Cox pinch hits Glaus for Conrad then Hinske for Glaus .Same results.Top of the ninth Braves would of had Hinske at third or Hernandez and Infante at second but no Booby is Bochy’s beatch.

Captain Kangaroo

October 11th, 2010
7:16 am

See how much sleep Brooksy gets. I bet Booby sleeps well at night.

J. Heyward

October 11th, 2010
7:32 am

Brooks Conrad is the man!!! Bobby will keep him in the lineup so no one really notices that I can’t hit, I can’t make plays in the outfield, I can’t throw, and I jog toward pop-ups that should be mine. Hell, if I wasn’t Atlanta’s latest and greatest predetermined darling and phenom, I’d be the goat of this series.

Farewell Bobby Cox.

October 11th, 2010
7:40 am

This is your typical Braves playoff team, CHOKING. Season over tonight. Padras would have made it a better series.

Stevie

October 11th, 2010
7:44 am

Hudson gets their first hit. The whole team (at least most of them) need to play with heart. They need to be 12 again and get out there like they want to be there. It shows in batting practice. Martinez is the only one feeding the crowd balls consistently at bp. The rest have an air that this whole series is an inconvenient delay to their vacation. Without calling anyone out, they need to step it up, play with some heart. The crowd was into it more than I have seen in a long time. These guys need to be Braves. Find your heart Bravos!!!!

Dean

October 11th, 2010
7:53 am

It really is all on Bobby for this loss. It’s not as if Conrad hasn’t been making errors before that game. Look at it this way, without Conrad this season we absolutely don’t make the playoffs. Braves fans, do not boo our own players!!!! You’re awesome at what you do Raw Dawg, pinch hitting. Forget about it and get us the walkoff win one of these last two nighs!

DHD

October 11th, 2010
7:56 am

Infante, 2b
McLouth, cf or lf
Heyward, rf
Lee, 1b
McCann, c
Glaus, 3b
Gonzo, ss
Ankiel, lf or cf
Lowe p

ANYTHING can happen if we can get back to SF. It ain’t over until it’s over. (I just made that up)

DaSarge

October 11th, 2010
8:10 am

J-Hey should have caught what turned out to be a triple; the kid is AWFUL going back on balls and does not have an arm. Also, the very next batter’s pop fly to the outfiled (dropped by Conrad) was J-Hey’s ball all the way. Funny how I do not see many folks correctly pointing out how J-Hey was just as much at fault for losing that game as Conrad. The kid also chokes in the batter’s box. I’m tired of watching him stroll back to the dugout after yet another strikeout popping a big bubble and looking like he couldn’t care less.

lilhomer

October 11th, 2010
8:11 am

get two strikes on ANY Brave hitter and throw the next one in the dirt…strike three…great strategy for the Giants…for that matter any Braves opponent this year…get rid of TP..and Heyward…be more aggressive at the plate..takes those down the middle strikes and then swings at those down and away…great ‘coaching’ from TP….chipper as player/hitting coach next year…

rolltide 12

October 11th, 2010
8:12 am

why pull kimble. he looked like a real closer to me. when cox did this i told my wife we would loose!

juice sourcer

October 11th, 2010
8:19 am

The Braves need to be put out of their misery today. If they somehow win this series then they will have to go thru the humiliation of getting sweep by the Phillies. It’ been a great season and is over.

lilhomer

October 11th, 2010
8:24 am

anybody else notice more ball/strike calls go against the Braves than the Giants?…just saying…ump behind the plate missed the 2nd base call in the first game…missed the first base call in the second game..and ejected Cox…and then behind the plate last nite…he’ll be on third tonite…i bet no ‘check swing’ calls go the Braves way tonite….

E-6

October 11th, 2010
8:30 am

Stew’s 1:01 post was spot on. It is a Braves legacy to have kids who throw mid nineties and above get ahead in the count and then hang their second or third best pitch. Wohlers, and last night both Kimbrel and Dunn.

At least most folks realize that without Conrad, we’re not having this conversation. You just hope he bounces back and doesn’t become a Steve Sax.

SMITTYSTHEMAN

October 11th, 2010
8:39 am

I agree with the aforementioned comments. It has gotten to the sickening point to watch batter after batter swing at outside pitches in the dirt. McCann, you used to be so disciplined at the plate, now you’re right there with the rest of them, hacking at balls a foot outside that the catcher has to go down to his knees to block. Even if they get lucky and pull out a win today, they got Lincecum waiting for them in Frisco. As much as I love and respect Bobby Cox, I’m eager to see someone else make decisions from the dugout. Someone who will not be so adamant about lefty/righty crap, etc. etc. Huff actually had a better batting average against leftys this year than he did against rightys, but Kimbrel gets pulled for the lefty. On and on and on. I realize that was a very tough situation for a 22-year old rookie, but he had the crowd energized and was throwing gas. I would’ve much rather seen him give up the winning hit in that situation than going for the old-school crap. He’s only 22 and he would’ve bounced back next year. Even Wagner himself said the kid is the Braves’ next closer. I’m happy for Bobby that he made the playoffs in his last season. He deserves to go out with one last hurrah. But I am really excited to get all out injured players back next year with a new fresh leader in the dugout.

WHO CARES

October 11th, 2010
8:50 am

I will not even watch this game, that is how sick I am of this team. At least I can watch my NFL team (Vikings) and the return of the Super Freak Randy Moss on MNF. They will lose anyways, so why tune in?

925eastbay

October 11th, 2010
8:53 am

The Braves will never win two in a row IF and mean IF they get lucky today they can’t get a win against Lincecum ha ha better luck next year!! Out here in the bay we are just getting ready to play Philly… Go Giants

kaminari

October 11th, 2010
8:56 am

Lowe’s gotta pitch the game of his life. I have a good feeling we’re gonna win today & put yesterday behind us. The season isn’t over. Let’s go BRAVES!!

Brock

October 11th, 2010
8:57 am

Smitty- I’ve been screaming that all year. Let the guy finish for once!! I would much rather seen Bobby, for once, leave a guy in to clean up his own mess than to see another guy come in to give it up. Yes, Conrad shoulda had that ball, but it may never get hit to him if he sticks with Kimbrel. I’ve said it a million times and especially concerning the rookies….if/when you start picking at a young pitchers confidence to get guys out in or not in pressure situations you will ruin him for his entire career. These guys know if they give up one hit they are probably going to get taken out.

I love Bobby but I’m so ready for a change.

bo

October 11th, 2010
8:58 am

Is all stupid the braves made the playoffs. Yes brooks needs to sit.don’t see braves need for next year just to stay healthy enough to play. May a july trade. J.J, Prado ,:Heyward,Freeman,Beachy @ Minor. Healthy @ better. Enter your comments here

Keith

October 11th, 2010
9:04 am

Game 2 might have been one of the best games I’ve seen.

Game 3 was definitely the worst.

Only bad part about it was that I was actually in the seats @ Game 3 as a Braves fan. :(

I didn’t like Cox taking out Kimbrel either, but Conrad pretty much singlehandedly lost the game for us (3 errors that led to 2 unearned runs). Kimbrel was unhittable besides a full count grounder single up in the middle. They couldn’t touch him when he was ahead in the count.

But I’m a glutton, so I’ll be there tonight for Game 3. :)

braveshoo

October 11th, 2010
9:05 am

Cox lost game 3 by taking out Kimbrel and by not putting in Diory Hernandez for defense in the 9th. Tonight he has to start Hernandez or Glaus instead of Conrad. Either one can play 3rd and they both bat right handed. I would also move Heyward down in the order to take some pressure off and tell him to go back to hitting to the opposite field. Bat Gonzo 2nd where he can bunt runners over or drive them home.

Keith

October 11th, 2010
9:06 am

But hey, the Falcons won, and Ohio State is ranked #1…so all is not lost.

GO BRAVES!

Brock

October 11th, 2010
9:06 am

bo….WTF are you talking about?

Fire Booby today

October 11th, 2010
9:06 am

The only chance the Braves have is to keep Booby from managing tonight. He said he didn’t replace Conrad for Hernandez because Hernandez was the only position player left. What are you saving him for? Bobby Cox is the worst manager in baseball, period.

PMC

October 11th, 2010
9:14 am

Bobby is responsible for the reason the Braves had a chance to win in the first place. He got Sanchez out of the game switched up for Ski and got them ahead.

The series isn’t over. All they have to do is win 2 games. The Giants hit as poorly as we do. The Braves are going to win tonight and then again on Wednesday night in San Francisco.

I don’t know how it’s going to happen but it’s going to happen.

Ken Shelton

October 11th, 2010
9:16 am

Like most fans sentiments, its sad to enjoy so many great dramatics finishes to the seemingly magical 2010 season to have the season come to a screeching halt, like it appears tonight may result with. Anyone with a heart has to feel bad for Conrad, and he has proven a player with a ton of heart all season, but to expect him to have the confidence to bounce back in the field this soon, well he’s not likely made of stone for his mental makeup. Like I’ve said from start, “Brooksy” is great in a one-bat setup, but granted Bobby Cox has made-up lineup cards since 1978, but beats me why he doesn’t at least give Troy Glaus a look-see at 3rd base, and shift Infante back to 2nd base. While Glaus may be a bit of a risk defensively, but he may still seem like a Brooks Robinson compared to what Conrad has managed. There’s always a chance Glaus could revisit his pop of May and early June, and after-all, lets not forget minus that power-boost we may not be talking about post-season play in the first place. The long-shot it is to bounce back, I say let’s go Braves and extend our legendary managers career a little longer!

DawgDad

October 11th, 2010
9:20 am

Who was the idiot that ran the Conrad grand slam video heading into the bottom of the ninth inning last night? Just plain stupid.

Never in my 50 years of attending live professional sporting events have I seen a game and crowd turned from the pinnacle of high excitement to come crashing down so quickly. Bobby Cox can rationalize all he wants but the decision to pull Kimbrel for Dunn was ill-advised and deserves to be second-guessed into Braves eternity. Now, I’m not all down on Cox; he did send Hinske up to bat, but he messed up the closer thing big time.

So, Cox wouldn’t sub defensively for Conrad in the ninth because Hernandez was the last player on the bench? Think MAYBE the team is carrying one too many pitchers on the roster? You could make a very compelling case they are carrying TWO too many pitchers.

On the one hand I feel bad for Conrad, who is overexposed to the max, but there’s no place on a National League roster for stiffs in the field. For all the accolades the Braves farm system receives they are woefully thin on position players.

And what was up with the umpire? KK could have suited up in orange and pitched a no-hitter with him behind the plate. The pitch Heyward was called out on in the ninth was a least six inches off the plate; never in the zone. Hopefully there’s a fine coming from MLB, and this guy needs to take a hike right out of the playoffs, permanently. Unlike Eric Gregg I’m not ready to accuse him of being on the take, but he’s pushing it.

Can the Braves win today? Can they hit?

justin1

October 11th, 2010
9:26 am

I FEEL LIKE MY GIRLFRIEND JUST BROKE UP WITH ME. I CANT STOP THINKING ABOUT LAST NIGHT. WOW. JUST WOW.

Bobby Coccyx

October 11th, 2010
9:29 am

They’re all good kids

justin1

October 11th, 2010
9:32 am

BOBBY MUST HAVE A PERSONAL VENDETTA AGAINST TROY. HOW MANY REASONS DOES HE NEED TO PUT HIM IN THE LINEUP BEFORE HE ACTUALLY DOES IT?? CONRAD (AND BOBBY) LOST GAME 3 FOR US, INFANTE LOST GAME 1 FOR US, AND TROY IS A FORMER WS MVP WITH GREAT HANDS (NOT SO MUCH LEGS) AND A NATURAL 3RD BASEMAN WHO BRINGS HUGE POWER TO A VERY UNSTABLE LINEUP. LOOK, ANY MANAGER WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT BASEBALL COULD HAVE WON ALL OF THOSE DIVISIONS ALL THESE YEARS. IF THE GM PUTS GREAT PLAYERS ON THE FIELD, THE PLAYERS WILL GET IT DONE. WHEN YOU GET TO THE POSTSEASON, THINGS ARE AMPLIFIED. THE MANAGER GETS EXPOSED. AND BOBBY IS NOT A GOOD POSTSEASON MANAGER.

Abnerish

October 11th, 2010
9:40 am

All these guys wanting Hinske at 3rd have never seen him play 3rd. Give me a break. Cox has 3 options: keep Conrad in, put Glaus at 3B, or Hernandez at 3B and Infante at 2B. That’s it. If Hinske was a better option than Glaus, he would have been playing there 3 weeks ago.

And, for all of those booing Conrad can move to Philly or NY. That’s not how Atlanta fans treat a guy that has single-handedly won us 6-7 games this year. No one feels worse than him, you can see it on his face. He’s not your high-priced superstar living fat on his millions. The dude probably makes the league minimum and has a family to feed. Brooksy obviously cares and I give him a lot of credit for not giving up and not asking Bobby to pull him. The man has guts and hopefully he will get a few big hits and make a great defensive play or two (I’d settle for routine defensive play!) to help us win this thing. This is a team game and you play with who brung ya! Watching Bobby for the past 20+ years, I have to believe he’s going to stay the course at put Brooks out there again. Bobby’s not going to change who he is just because it’s possibly his last game.

dogsbrekky

October 11th, 2010
9:43 am

What does Glaus have to do to get a start, he might actually scare a LHP or 2, put him at 3rd and leave him there (and do not quote the Renteria bunt at me cause Jesus Christ wasn’t getting him out on that play) …. feel so sad for Brooks but if we hit > > 0.167 and Bobby left Kimbrel in instead of sharing the loss/hits around, we would all feel better today and beup 2-1

Go Braves

Brock

October 11th, 2010
9:45 am

as soon as Cox pulled Kimbrel I paused the game, went outside to have a beer and a smoke, told my wife when I go back in, we will lose the game. Well, you guys know the rest. I’ve seen this too many times with this manager overthinking things and not just letting guys play baseball. Kimbrel was dealing, I have all the confidence in the world he would have gotten Huff out. And if he didn’t, at least Bobby didn’t take him out for that great lefty on righty matchup that ALWAYS seems to work.

another poorly managed game by Cox. I feel bad for Brooksy. He gets thrown into this spot and unfortunately can’t handle the pressure of being an everyday 2nd baseman…..in the playoffs I might add. But you can’t solely blame Brooks or Bobby…guys have to make plays and managers have to make decisions that sometime don’t work out. However, this team simply can’t hit the ball. For your pitcher to be the first guy to get a hit is pretty sad. Not because it actually happened but didn’t happen until the what…6 or 7th inning? Wow, no offense whatsoever.

Good luck tonight boys!! I’ll be watching and pulling for you. Leave it all on the field tonight!!

Lay off Brooks

October 11th, 2010
9:49 am

This is not all his fault.

1. bobble on first error was all him. should fielded and made play to first vs. trying for the DP.
2. That ball was ALL HEYWARD..Jey Hey has got to call him off of that ball. Brooks is running and is not set under the ball and trying to catch over his shoulder when he started off shaded to the 2nd base bag?
3. Buster Posey should have never been at the plate. The 2-2 slider to Freddy Sanchez was the killer. Kimbrel should have thrown the gas, shook of McCann and ended it right there. Sanchez couldn’t sniff the fastball and we help him by speeding the bat up.
4. Kimbrel should have stayed in and closed it. Huff hits RHP/LHP with equal success. If you insist on going to Dunn – also throw the fastball. LET THEM BEAT YOU WITH YOUR BEST PITCH!!!

Remember the slider to Jim Leyritz? Why doesn’t Bobby?

blazerdawg

October 11th, 2010
9:49 am

Braves/Lowe win tonight going away…then we get the lead singer from Rush again.

dogsbrekky

October 11th, 2010
9:51 am

Brock I am blaming you but I felt the same way I did in 1996 after the Wohlers slider mess

Bill

October 11th, 2010
9:53 am

Does anyone understand that the error was not the only thing that beat us on Sunday. Braves batters need to be able to swing at strikes. Notice Heyward, McCann and Lee, two strikes and bat still on their shoulder. Heard the other day that a brave player made the statement, we try to wear down the pitcher by making him pitch more pitches in early innings. Don’t see how Braves can win ball games with bat on their shoulder. Visiting pitcher is 0-1 and 0-2 before a bat is moved. The best pitches to hit have been thrown.

dogsbrekky

October 11th, 2010
9:53 am

3. Buster Posey should have never been at the plate. The 2-2 slider to Freddy Sanchez was the killer. Kimbrel should have thrown the gas, shook of McCann and ended it right there. Sanchez couldn’t sniff the fastball and we help him by speeding the bat up.

EXf..kingACTLY

Lay off Brooks

October 11th, 2010
9:54 am

Additionally – booing Brooks Conrad in Atlanta in the post season? Really? Atlanta is much classier than that – we are not Philly or the Mets.

Let’s get behind him and know that Brooks has won more games for us than he has lost. Sometimes men fail. It is how they respond that shows their true character.

Go Braves. Go Brooks.

Abnerish

October 11th, 2010
9:56 am

Dunn’s best pitch is his slider. He just left it up just a little bit. I agree with you on the dropped pop-up. Is anyone in the media talking about what an absolute horrendous series Heyward is having?? He’s 0 for the series, isn’t he? If that was Chipper or some else, that’s all we would be talking about. Is the media not allowed to say anything bad about Heyward? The other team’s have found a hole in Jason’s swing and they are exploiting it. It’s sad to see.

Mike

October 11th, 2010
9:59 am

Nobody should let Conrad hold their babies.
I am a Giants fan, and we wish you would clone that butter-fingered waste-of-a-roster-spot for the entire infield.

Mike

October 11th, 2010
10:03 am

Gotta love that fat guy who homered in the 8th, running around the based with the big “#1″
All the fans doing that EXTREMELY ANNOYING tomahawk thing.
People high-fiving all over the place.

Have a nice day!

rolltide 12

October 11th, 2010
10:05 am

why didn’t heyword hustle in for the ball and make the catch in the ninth inning

Bill M.

October 11th, 2010
10:06 am

There’s enough blame to go around. Starting with the Owners. We need new owners that will spend a little more. Wren has got to get his act together this off season. They need to get rid half of team. If it takes trading JJ & McCann, that’s ok. I’m tired of this platooning, you never know who’s in OF. They can save alot by letting Gonzales go. I’m so glad Cox is retiring. He made a big blunder, when he took Kimbrel out. Conrad is a mess, put him on bench. It can’t be no worse with Glaus on 3rd.

yogi2

October 11th, 2010
10:06 am

Brooks Conrad could not play on most high school teams. Bobby Cox should never let him on this team. the Braves have so many good players
in the minors. Conrad is career substitute in the minor leagues.Cox and Wren and all Braves scouts should have seen this along time ago.

Abnerish

October 11th, 2010
10:07 am

I agree that I would’ve left Kimbrel in to face Huff. But Bobby ALWAYS plays percentages and goes by the book. Sometimes it works, like when he brought in Venters to get Lowe out of a jam in game 1. I was screaming at the TV then to leave Lowe in and Bobby made the right call. All the manager can do is put his players in the best possible position to win the game and hope they execute. Was it Bobby’s fault that Huff gets just enough on that hit to get it over Conrad but not too much to be an easy out? That was just good fortune on Huff’s part. That ball hangs up 5 more feet and we win the game.

Lay off Brooks

October 11th, 2010
10:12 am

Thanks Dogsbrekky. Abernash – Dunn’s best pitch is the fastball. 95+ from the left side is TOUGH to hit.

Lay off Brooks

October 11th, 2010
10:13 am

Abernish- if it’s a fastball it’s a fielders choice to Gonzo or its in the SF dugout.

chillahill43

October 11th, 2010
10:24 am

An offense that went the way of the Buffalo- A ROY candidate that doesn’t call off the 2nd baseman trying to make A Willie Mays Catch doesnt have a hit 11 days into October- A catcher that calls for a slider/split/hanger after the batter shows you he cant catch up to HEAT. A manager that pulls his Closer- Well he is our closer now that our closer is out- Its a miracle that we have only lost the 2 games by 2 runs .. A pinch Hitter sensation that has to play everyday because of the baseball gods killing our starters with injuries. Only true Baseballers showing up everyday are the pitchers. Hell even our pitcher had to get our first hit in the 7th. So to throw all of this on our second baseman’s shoulders- not only is it not fair but it ain’t right. This team is what it is. We Know exactly who they are. But we gotta go forward, The baseball will find the weakest link, its how the baseball gods make it… Go Braves…. You are gonna pull it out!!!! Dont give up never surrender and well you know the rest of the story…. Good Day>>>>>

chillahill43

October 11th, 2010
10:28 am

and just one point -
If Bobby ALWAYS played percentages. Then we would have had a Right Handed hitter behind the plate and a Switch hitter in Center to start the game against the lefty, So really, does Bobby ALWAYS play the percentages or just when its convenient to say so….. His percentages only bite us in the Arse when they dont work… Typically thats in a playoff situation and late in the game…..

javier

October 11th, 2010
10:34 am

braves fans that booed conrad last night should really look in the mirror. you are not a good fan. do you have any idea how important he was to the team this season? yes, he has not had a good series. at all. but don’t turn on one of your own, man. we still had a chance to win that game.

GO GET ‘EM TONIGHT, RAW DOG! a lot of us are still behind you.

Bigleee

October 11th, 2010
10:41 am

I’ve come to believe that being a life long Giants fan is more self destructive than being a Cubs fan. I’ll take the win and one more tonight. Go Giants!

Casey Stinkle

October 11th, 2010
10:45 am

@Mike and 925EastBay…yeah the braves are not hitting very well, but quite frankly the Giants are the worst hitting team I have seen in the playoffs in a long time, and even if you do win this series, I doubt if you even win one game against the Phillies. Oh, and another thing, the 49ers suck.

southern hope

October 11th, 2010
10:47 am

My deal with Beelzebub is exhausting me. At first, I was all “I don’t care if we win a single game. Just get us into the playoffs.” Then it was “just win one so we don’t look as bad as the Twins and Reds.” Then it was “that one night in San Francisco made the whole thing worthwhile…doesn’t matter what happens next.”

And now I’m back in a rut of sleepless nights & fruitless bargaining….

Dirty Dawg

October 11th, 2010
10:54 am

Conrad’s future, if he has one at all, is in the outfield. Heyward’s however is I don’t know where. If they can’t fix those holes in his swing, and head, (now we know why he takes so many walks, he can’t hit nothin’ either – like the rest of our outfield). The poster above that had Conrad, McCann and Heyward on the bench is absolutely right on. Sure McCann’s hitting the ball better than the others, but not against lefties and even though he’s blocking pitches in the dirt better than I’ve ever seen him, let’s use Ross and maybe some of these damn runners will get their butts thrown out and Boche’ll stop sending ‘em.

Bigleee

October 11th, 2010
10:57 am

Yes the niners are a tough cross to bear. Please pray for my healing. But the Braves are hitting .165 for the series vs the Giants .227. Worst hitting team for the playoffs goes to da Braves. As for the Philies, left handed pitching will get at least two wins, plus one from Lincecum. From there hope springs eternal.

Jackie Whittemore

October 11th, 2010
11:02 am

And I’m sure Brooks WANTED to make all those errors right? We need to rally around this guy because he’s going to be playing worse if the fans are booing him!

NashPhil

October 11th, 2010
11:07 am

When you start the season with the fragile Glaus and Chipper as starters, it shouldn’t be a surprise when you’ve got to go with reserves at key moments in the postseason. Conrad is being asked to perform beyond his capabilities. And as noted earlier Heyward should have called off Conrad for the pop-up.

Booby's All Time Team

October 11th, 2010
11:09 am

Hang in there Brooks, We are all behind you.Just keep being below average and Bobby will keep putting you in the lineup.

Lonnie Smith, Keith Lockhart, Kerry Lightenburg, Greg McMichael, Julio Franco, Gerald Williams

LAG

October 11th, 2010
11:11 am

I’m still high on Heyward, but he should have been dropped in the lineup a long time ago. Second is not the place for him, no matter how much he’s batted there all season.

mclOUTh

October 11th, 2010
11:12 am

I was there last night. My observations…
1. Whoever decided to play that video clip of Brooks’ grand slam after his 3rd error is the biggest MORON in the history of stadium promotions. REALLY? Brooks was set up for the reaction that he got by that clown.

2. I wanted to throw up in the 9th. Bobby should have left the kid in. He out-managed himself.

3. I am SICK of hearing “we are not Philadelphia and New York…we shouldn’t boo”. SCREW YOU PEOPLE!!! The reason we are mediocre is because we don’t DEMAND BETTER! Philly and NY win and excel because if they don’t people get fired and heads roll. Their fans won’t accept “average.”

Keith

October 11th, 2010
11:13 am

Re: Javier

I was at the game last night. His play was horrid, but I was yelling at fans for booing him. :( That was bad. But I think they were just venting…it was the worst game I’ve ever seen in person.

But we DO need to rally around him tonight….hopefully as he comes off the bench and do what he does best – HIT!

GO BRAVES! :)

Keith

October 11th, 2010
11:14 am

Re: Mclouth

Totally agree with #1. That was like they were trying to force us to cheer for him. :O

#2 – I agree.

#3 – I hear you on that. I think the fans needed to vent.

Lay off Brooks

October 11th, 2010
11:14 am

@chillahill43 – you are spot on. McCann needs to know better thna calling for a slider against Sanchez and Huff. Next to the Braves, the Giants are just as bad offensively. Why give them any help. I hope McCann thought about those 2 pitches all night long…He put that 3rd error on Conrad.

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