Braves would have home-field advantage for wild card playoff

If the Braves are forced into a one-game playoff for the wild card with either the Padres or the Giants, the Braves will have home field advantage by virtue of winning season series against both teams. The Braves went 4-2 vs. the Padres and 4-3 vs. the Giants.

If the Giants or Padres clinch the NL west and the other team is in a tie with the Braves, a one-game playoff for the wild card would be played on Monday at Turner Field. If the Giants, Padres and Braves end in a three-way tie, the Giants and Padres would play a one-game playoff for the NL West on Monday. The loser would fly to Atlanta for a one-game wild card playoff at Turner Field on Tuesday.

If the Braves advance to the Division Series, they would play Thursday and Friday, Oct. 7, 8 at Cincinnati, San Francisco or San Diego. They’d be off Saturday, Oct. 9, then host Game 3 at Turner Field on Sunday, Oct. 10. They would host a Game 4, if necessary, Monday Oct. 11 at Turner Field and then travel for Game 5, if necessary, on Wednesday Oct. 13.

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Joseph Wilder

September 29th, 2010
5:36 pm

first! cool. had to do it just once.

first!!

September 29th, 2010
5:37 pm

first!!

September 29th, 2010
5:37 pm

darn… 1 minute late…

Jedi Falcon

September 29th, 2010
5:45 pm

Ronald T. Pettibone

September 29th, 2010
6:00 pm

The loser of the Giants/Padres one-game playoff would no longer be in a tie with the Braves since one-game playoffs count as regular season games.

MIke A.

September 29th, 2010
6:08 pm

I agree with Pettibone. IF there’s a three-way tie for the division. The Giants-Padres are only eligible for the division. The Braves automatically get the wild card

KnightInATL

September 29th, 2010
6:14 pm

When did they stop doing coin flips for the one-game playoff?

Pete*

September 29th, 2010
7:53 pm

Mike and Pettibone, wrong-ola. The scenario plays out like Carroll said. If three teams tie, you dont penalize one of them just cause they lose playoff for division; doesnt work that way.

MattinPA

September 29th, 2010
8:00 pm

KnightinATL: I think the Twins complained when they lost a coin flip and had to play a team they had a winning record against in the regular season. This let MLB come to their senses and go by the season records for wild card spot.

Mike A. : If the Giants/Padres were tied for first and weren’t tied with another team for the wild card, they would just award the winner of the season series the division title and the other team would get the wild card. I’m not sure why they don’t use that to determine the division winner and just let the loser of the season series play the other team for the wild card…but either way it gives the Braves the advantage of a critical day of rest… especially in light of our worn out pitching staff….

tom

September 29th, 2010
8:16 pm

this rule makes no sense. the stats of that game count as a regular season game. the win counts as a regular season in a tie breaker and the loss counts as a loss for the losing team. therefore the loser of a possible giants padres tie for nl west would fall .5 games behind the braves. so the braves would have to play a team that is a half game behind them standings wise

Boatdoc

September 29th, 2010
8:31 pm

Since the Braves can’t play half a game to see if they’d go into a tie for the 1/2 game behind NL West loser – the rule makes perfect sense.

And whether the rule make sense or not – it is what it is. Do you also complain about the weather, the federal deficit and other things that you have no control over?

MIke A.

September 29th, 2010
9:15 pm

The rule must have changed or Skip was wrong in one of those rain delay call-in shows he used to hate doing.

Jughead Obama

September 29th, 2010
9:44 pm

The Rules ARE WHAT I say they ARE!

Pete*

September 29th, 2010
9:58 pm

Mike A the rule did change, but Im not sure when. What you guys are forgetting is this: if the Braves, SF and SD are all “tied” (have same record) at season end, all that means is they have the same W-L record. But dont forget that the Braves have been eliminated from the Division title, whereas SF and SD are not, which is a major distinction. Because SF and SD are fighting for the Division title, thats a higher “status” than Atlanta has.
So it wouldnt be fair to whoever loses that game to eliminate them. To put it another way if all 3 tie, it wouldnt be right to have the Braves get a free ride to the wild card with no playoff game, while the other 2 have to play a game. Now if all 3 were in the same division, thats a whole different story because then they would all 3 be fighting for the Division. So the key point here is that SF and SD are playing for the Division, while the Braves have been eliminated.

bravesfannnnnnnnnnn

September 30th, 2010
3:47 am

jaajajajajaj PEOPLEEEEEE SORRY BUT OBRIEN IT’S WRONGGGGGG

IF BRAVES,GIANTS AND PADRES TIE WITH SAME RECORD …..ATLANTA MAKE THE PLAYOFFS BECAUSE GIANTS AND PADRES TIE IN 1ST PLACE OF WEST AND BOTH TEAMS GO TO PLAY A TIE-BREAKER FOR WEST TITLE..TIE-BREAKER IS A 163 GAME SEASON DONT FORGET THAT ….WELL…THE WINNER OF TIE-BREAKER WIN THE WEST AND LOOSER GO DOWN TO 1/2 GAME TO BRAVES AND ITS ALL………..

:D GO BRAVES………BELIEVE IN 2010……..COME ON SUPPORT TO TEAM :D

Boston Braves

September 30th, 2010
7:04 am

one goes into two, two goes into three…..

Larvell Blanks

September 30th, 2010
9:24 am

One win vs. the Phillies guarantees at least a one-game playoff, due to the wonderful fact that the Giants and Padres are playing each other the last three games.

joe

September 30th, 2010
9:32 am

Best thing that has happened to the braves is Prado going down and Conrad stepping in…he may just carry the load offensively in the post season.

bruce

September 30th, 2010
10:08 am

Thanks Carroll… its nice to now have enough facts to be able to accurately speculate on timing, much better than being clueless.

Mechabradzilla

September 30th, 2010
10:13 am

Awesome!!!

Dave O Brian how does it feel to be Minya :(

dtrag

September 30th, 2010
10:22 am

bravesfannnnnn…o’brien is absolutely correct..and this has always been the process since the wild card was brought into play. I don’t recall it ever happening where there was two 1 game playoffs in the same league but in 2007 they were very close to it with AZ., COL and S.D almost having to play it out that way. But the stats do count which is a little inconsistent. Ryan Howard lost the N.L rbi title to the Rockies fraud known as Holliday in that 1 game playoff the Rockies played against the Padres when he got 2 rbi’s in that game.

myra

September 30th, 2010
10:44 am

Shout out to the BRAVES PLAYERS:

Have a nice day off:sleep,golf,bbq,get the honey do list done,catch up on the dvr,and you know..get sum lovin…..then
Come back to the TED and get ready to PULVERIZE the ‘feel wees’ when they get here.
THIS IS OUR HOUSE AND WE RULE IN OUR HOUSE!

KICK Their AZZ

The Ted will be rockin and don’t forget–there are MILLIONS of us BRAVES FANS sittin at home watchin or listening on radio and cheering you on!!!!!!!!!

YOU GUYS CAN DO IT!

aikenbravesfan

September 30th, 2010
11:00 am

If two teams are tied atop the division and share the Wild Card lead with another club, the ties will be broken in the following fashion:
• The teams tied atop the division will play, with the winner taking the division.
• The losing team will then play the remaining Wild Card contender, with the winner making the playoffs.
This was cut and pasted from mlb.com.

Daniel Horton

September 30th, 2010
11:00 am

Here’s every scenario for the rest of the regular season in terms of total wins. All of these assume that both the Giants and Padres win tonight. You can subtract a game from their final line if you think they might lose tonight. Anyone feel free to correct me if I missed anything here.

Braves Swept / Padres Sweep
ATL SD SF

Thursday 90 88 90
Friday 90 89 91
Saturday 90 90 91
Sunday 90 91 91
Final 90 92 91

Braves Swept / Giants Sweep
ATL SD SF

Thursday 90 88 90
Friday 90 89 91
Saturday 90 89 92
Sunday 90 89 93
Final 90 89 94

Braves Win 1 / Padres Win 2
ATL SD SF

Thursday 90 88 90
Friday 90 89 91
Saturday 91 90 91
Sunday 91 91 91
Final 91 91 92

Braves Win 1 / Giants Win 2
ATL SD SF

Thursday 90 88 90
Friday 90 89 91
Saturday 91 89 92
Sunday 91 90 93
Final 91 90 93

Braves Win 2 / Giants Win 2
ATL SD SF

Thursday 90 88 90
Friday 90 89 91
Saturday 91 89 92
Sunday 91 90 93
Final 92 90 93

Braves Win 2 / Padres Win 2
ATL SD SF

Thursday 90 88 90
Friday 90 89 91
Saturday 91 90 91
Sunday 91 91 91
Final 92 91 92

David O'Brien

September 30th, 2010
11:12 am

aikenbravesfan: I’m not quite sure why you cut-and-pasted that playoff explanation from mlb.com when Carroll wrote exactly that in the blog you’re posting your comment beneath. But, oh well, it did confirm exactly what she wrote, so I guess that’s good.

Chief Nock A Homa

September 30th, 2010
11:24 am

DOB:

Maybe to confirm it officially from MLB since there are so many questioning Carroll’s explanation???

Larvell Blanks

September 30th, 2010
11:27 am

DOB – He wrote it because certain nimrods here refused to believe her, thinking they could reason it out for themselves rather than, you know, check the rules.

James

September 30th, 2010
11:41 am

I would rather the Braves play Cincinnati than San Francisco and San Diego. Going out west could be a problem for the Braves I think they could beat Cincinnati.

Keith

September 30th, 2010
12:11 pm

The coin flip rule changed as of Sept 2009. I read that from an article on MLB I believe. :)

Keith

September 30th, 2010
12:12 pm

*at the General Manger’s meeting I think*

Keith

September 30th, 2010
12:13 pm

I can’t spell but…

KnightInATL

September 30th, 2010
12:19 pm

@James – Not me. I think that San Fran offers a significantly better matchup for the Braves than the Reds would. As solid as the Giants rotation is, they don’t scare me—not even Lincecum. And they really have nobody that would put the fear in the eyes of any pitcher. Whereas, the Reds offense is downright frightening…especially in that bandbox of a ballpark they play in.

bravesfaninla

September 30th, 2010
12:50 pm

Just playing with numbers from D Horton….games tonight could be big for the braves;

* a loss by SD tonight and anything less than a SD sweep of SF gets braves into at least a playoff for the wildcard

* braves win 1 and they’ve got at least a playoff for the wildcard

* two ways to get to a three way tie, but the braves have to get one win to make it work
1) SF wins tonight and is then swept by SD
2) SF loses tonight and SD takes 2 of 3

David O'Brien

September 30th, 2010
1:52 pm

Larvell: Oh, I see.

Daniel Horton

September 30th, 2010
1:56 pm

@bravesfaninla – I noticed that too. At this point, we need to root for the Giants when it comes to their series with the Padres. Regardless of tonight’s results, if the Giants take two out of three from them, the Braves would only have to win one game against the Phillies to take the Wild Card.

Though of course all of this is moot if the Braves can win two out of three from the Phillies. Then it doesn’t matter what else happens.

Daniel Horton

September 30th, 2010
2:08 pm

One other thing. I was talking about these numbers on another board with Braves fans and we got to thinking about what the scenario would be if the Braves get swept and the SD / SF series goes 1-2 either way:

Braves Swept / Padres Win 2
ATL SD SF

Thursday 90 88 90
Friday 90 89 91
Saturday 90 90 91
Sunday 90 91 91
Final 90 91 90

Braves Swept / Giants Win 2
ATL SD SF

Thursday 90 88 90
Friday 90 89 91
Saturday 90 89 92
Sunday 90 89 93
Final 90 90 93

In that context, the games tonight for SD and SF are BIG. A loss for either one puts the Braves in the Wild Card if their series splits either way. If not, there’s still a Wild Card playoff.

Anyways, the point of all of this is that it looks pretty darn good for the Braves right now. They’re in total control of this situation if they can win 2 of 3. But even if they don’t, the outlook is pretty good.

joBjo

September 30th, 2010
2:08 pm

If it is a tie for division and loser beats Braves in wild card tie breaker they would still be tied so it would have to be double elimination for wild card!

Larry

September 30th, 2010
4:03 pm

Cut and pasted from Baseball-reference.com.
Examples cited are from 2001 season.
These fall under Major League rules 33 and 34.

Scenario #5: If three Clubs in a League are tied with identical winning percentages at the end of the championship season and two of those tied Clubs are from the same Division and are also tied for first place in that Division and the third tied Club has the highest winning percentage among the second-place Clubs in the remaining two Divisions, the Division Champion shall first be determined by a one-game playoff on Monday, September 29. Any playoff games played to determine a Division champion shall not count in determining which Clubs are deemed tied for a Wild Card designation. Clubs that were originally tied with a Club or Clubs for a Wild Card designation shall still be considered tied.

Example of Scenario #5: The Houston Astros, St. Louis Cardinals and Florida Marlins all have identical winning percentages at the end of the championship season. The Astros and Cardinals are tied for first place in the NL Central and the Marlins have the highest winning percentage among the second-place Clubs from the NL East and NL West. The Astros and Cardinals would play a one-game playoff on Monday, September 29. The winner shall be declared the Division Champion. Despite the loss, the losing Club would still be considered tied with the Marlins for the lead in the NL Wild Card. Those two Clubs would play a one-game playoff on Tuesday, September 30. The winner of that game shall be declared the Wild Card.

bravesfannnnnnnn

September 30th, 2010
4:06 pm

dtrag………about 2007 AZ,COL.SD 3 teams are in the same division and in this case yes forcing to couple of play-off game…but ATL is in another division…and SD and SF is west,,,so….tie-breaker is a 163 game of regular season…and tie-breaker looser go down 1/2 to atlanta and winner win the west,.,,,ERNESTO JEREZ SAY THAT FEW DAYS A GO IN ONE TELECAST FOR ESPN…

GO BRAVES!

NorCaL

September 30th, 2010
4:23 pm

The Giants will either sweep or win 2, I can almost guarantee it. They are going crazy out here! We should be in good shape. No way the Padres could sweep.

TTTT-Thumbody Thed Thats Thupid

September 30th, 2010
4:47 pm

On a sidenote, would not be at all surprised if ATL and SD end up tied for the WC, that the one game playoff would be on Tues, and not Monday. I say that because Mon. could be used as a travel day since they are on the West coast, and Wed. could also be used as a travel day since it looks like they would not begin play until Thurs. That would apply if it’s SF also. It’s going to be awfully hard on either team flying from the West coast after playing on Sunday. If they are forced to play on Monday, it will be pure torture! Advantage? Braves !

kool$kat

September 30th, 2010
4:48 pm

NorCal…there are no guarantees, thats why they play the games! Case in point (I’ll never forget) – In ‘96 the defending world champ Braves went to World Series in NY and smoked the Yankees 2 games in a row, then came back to ATL and had 6-0 lead in game 3 (can you say “momentum”?) only to lose the series in 6 games. This with Smoltz, Glavine and Maddux. I repeat…there are no guarantees!

bamakirk

September 30th, 2010
6:05 pm

If the Giants keep winning today, they could clinch with a Padres loss tonight and a win in the first game of that series. They would then rest starters and the Padres might win the last 2 forcing us to win one. This is making my head hurt.

Dannsing

October 2nd, 2010
9:42 pm

This doesn’t make sense. If there is a three-way tie, the Braves should be out or the Giants-Braves should be playing the one game playoff. The Padres should win the NL west because of winning head-to-head during the season against the Giants – just as if the Braves were not in the equation, the padres win the west if they tie the Giants for first at the end of the season (see Yanks-Red Sox a few years ago). There could also be an argument that the Braves are simply out because they are a second place team while 2 first place teams should go into the playoffs.

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