Hudson replaces Jurrjens on short rest Tuesday

With pitcher Jair Jurrjens still hampered by a sore knee and the Braves fighting for a playoff spot, veterans Tim Hudson and Derek Lowe will move up a day to pitch on short rest Tuesday and Wednesday.

Hudson will start Tuesday and Lowe on Wednesday in the last two games of a three-game series against the Florida Marlins at Turner Field, with Jurrjens hoping to return for Friday’s series opener against Philadelphia.

Jurrjens, diagnosed last week with a slight meniscus tear in his right knee, will miss his third consecutive start. He was examined again Monday and given a “dose pack” of anti-inflammatory pills.

The right-hander said if he’s not better in a couple more days, he might have another MRI to see if there’s a damaged tendon in addition to the meniscus tear.

“It’s really frustrating, especially now, with the team trying to accomplish we’ve been working for since spring training,” said Jurrjens, who has been slowed much of the season by a series of injuries. “It’s just making it more difficult, and it’s asking a lot from the other guys.

“This really isn’t the time for you to miss much time. Hopefully the guys can pick me up and give me a chance to pitch again this season.”

Jurrjens won 27 games during the 2008-2009 seasons for the Braves, and last season his 2.60 ERA was the third-lowest among National League starters.

He’s 7-6 with a 4.64 ERA in 20 starts this season, 12 fewer than Hudson, Lowe or Tommy Hanson (who was scheduled to make his 33rd start Monday).

Jurrjens strained his pitching shoulder a week before reporting for spring training, and has rarely been fully healthy since. He spent much of the first half of the season the disabled list for a twice-injured hamstring.

Jurrjens was 4-1 with a 4.41 ERA in his last eight starts before the knee injury, which occurred during a between-starts bullpen session on Sept. 17 in New York.

He had a cortisone shot Sept. 18 and said there was some improvement, but not enough to make his scheduled starts Sept. 20 at Philadelphia or Sunday at Washington.

Rookie Brandon Beachy replaced him in those two games, the first major league games for the Beachy. The Braves lost each game, though Beachy impressed while allowing nine hits and five runs (three earned) in 9-1/3 combined innings.

Hudson’s September slide

The Braves are hoping short rest might help Hudson snap out of a recent funk. He is 1-4 with a 6.10 ERA in five starts, after going 6-0 with a 1.43 ERA in his previous eight starts.

After pitching Tuesday on short rest, Hudson would be available to pitch on regular rest in Sunday’s regular-season finale against the Phillies, manager Bobby Cox said.

Hudson has slumped in September, going 1-4 with a 6.10 ERA in five starts. He had been 6-0 with a 1.43 ERA in his previous eight starts.

In three career regular-season starts on short (three days) rest, Hudson is 2-0 with a 2.61 ERA. He’s also 0-1 with a 3.97 ERA in three postseason starts on short rest.

“Huddy pitched on three days in the playoffs and pitched a gem,”  Cox said.

The reference was to Hudson’s 2005 division-series start for the Braves against Houston, when he allowed three runs and six hits in seven innings of an epic, 18-inning loss in Game 4.

The Braves haven’t played a postseason game since.

Lowe is 2-1 with a 5.09 ERA in four career regular-season starts on short rest.

67 comments Add your comment

Ezekiel

September 27th, 2010
7:52 pm

We gonna get this one in, Dave?

shawn

September 27th, 2010
7:54 pm

Let’s go with Huddy and hope to get a win….Go Braves

Loyal Braves fan since '70

September 27th, 2010
9:00 pm

Now Cox decides to adjust his rotation.

Beach Dawg

September 27th, 2010
9:44 pm

I am shocked and amazed that KK is not being called upon to replace JJ !!!!!!!

Booyah

September 27th, 2010
11:57 pm

Should burn Minor Tuesday and go Huddy on Wed, Lowe on Fri, JJ on Sat and Hanson on Sun.

Brave4life- We almost had it

September 28th, 2010
12:48 am

Keith

September 28th, 2010
1:15 am

By Cox adjusting his rotation NOW with the WC on the line, it appears he conceded the Philly games…which is fine with me, even though we were in every single game but anyway…

Tonight was painful with Prado going down. Then our offense. Come on, Braves!!!

Hey Bobby, take Mclouth back out and let Hinkse/Diaz play again. :)

Bartman

September 28th, 2010
6:08 am

Okay, we all know Hudson is already pitched out. Now he is going on short rest. I’m not sure that equates into anything positive. I hope he was told to try to go 4 or 5 innings at the max. Start warming Minor up in the forth and let him know they just need 2 or threee from him. Maybe if they both just focus on a few innings, they can handle it.

Mclouth doesn’t seem comfortable at all in left. It must be the wall affect that he got running into Jason.

MitchC

September 28th, 2010
6:37 am

Bobby’s doing what he has to do. Rarely during the Braves successful years, has he pitched people on short rest during the regular season, only doing so in the playoffs. This, however, is a desperate situation.

I would rather have Tim Hudson, and Derek Lowe on three days rest each, than, say, Brandon Beachy or Mike Minor.

One game at a time, I know, but I still think we need four more wins to get it done, or, at the very least, three more wins.

Bartman

September 28th, 2010
6:42 am

Is Right/Center field the new 2nd base? Ask B-Mac…. Kidding. He is obviously tired too. His legs and feet aren’t in sinc with his upper bod anymore. Obvious fatigue. Ten more pounsd before next season and he may be able to handle September 2011.
Speaking of next year… just curious…who does everyone see as our 5 man rotation. Obviously Kawakami plays no part into anything next year. They will either trade him and eat most of his salary for someone (which still at leasts saves some money) or just release him and eat the whole thing…yuk, that won’t taste too good to Liberty. No Chris Medlan for pretty much for the whole year so we can’t count him in. Right now Beachy and Minor obviously have the best shot at the 5th spot but is there another minor leaguer in line or a possible free agent? I don’t see any free agent money going on a pitcher. Also, which, if any, outfielder stays besides Heywood? Mclouth is under contract so I’m guessing he is in. Everyone else???? Is Jordan Shaffer done? No undectable HGH out there to help him get back I guess.
I like trying to keep D-Lee to play with Freeman for one year. I don’t think that’ll happen though.
If Chipper comes back, and it sounds like he is, who plays where? Prado back to 2nd and then back to 3rd on Chippers injury days? Infante 2nd or Left? Or maybe SS and bye bye to Gonzo?
Looks like the only for sure positions next year are the first 4 spots in the rotation, cather and right field. WOW!

…that’s enogh.

Bartman

September 28th, 2010
6:55 am

MitchC
I agree, Bobby is doing what he has to. I just hope that they have reduced his focus from 7 innings to 4 or 5 with plans of having a long reliever ready to start the 5th. With Minor being a lefty, they would atleast cause the Marlins to look at going to their bench. Since they they really didn’t have too many call ups, that would put them at a late inning disadvantage or they would have to have a bunch of lefty/lefty matchups.
If/when you see T-Huds pitches staying up and drifting to the righthanders batters box, that will be time to take him out. Not after a 3 run homer flys out…lol

hAL

September 28th, 2010
7:17 am

im changing haystacks nic name to the accordion cause hes folding under the sept pressure like a pawn shop accordion lol

Randy Johnson

September 28th, 2010
7:38 am

Think I still have a chance of playing third base? After all, Bob Horner has been gone for years now. Hope Glaus doesn’t get a chance.Heck, I can PH better them him any ole day. I wonder if I could hit better in the clutch than DLEE.

Brook Jacoby and Earl Williams

September 28th, 2010
8:09 am

I know I could…. if they didn’t trade me.

vermont 39

September 28th, 2010
8:13 am

I remember that Houston game…if you watch the video LaRoche does an okey doke jog to 3rd where he should have been running and we win the game…GO LOOK!!!!
It’s there!
GO BRAVES!!!

Steve

September 28th, 2010
8:21 am

Booby Cox’s Hall of Fame skills have never been more evident than this year. The Braves have lost three pitchers due to ineffectiveness or injury, have two-thirds of an outfield that has been ineffective, lost a Hall of Fame third baseman, and have had questionable hitting at first base. If we had a real GM, versus Fumbling Frank, just think where the Braves would be.

Jonathon

September 28th, 2010
8:24 am

DOB,

any thought to starting Glaus at 3B rather than Conrad? especially against the lefty miller on wednesday.

GovClintonTyree

September 28th, 2010
9:11 am

I don’t like short rest. Statistics are overwhelmingly against short rest (20-34 with a 4.67 ERA over the last 15 years of postseason play). I think there are exceptions – horses (Halladay, RJohnson) and sinkerballers (Hudson, Lowe). The problem isn’t innings 1-3, it’s innings 5-7. But if a sinkerballer like Hudson or Lowe loses a couple klicks because of fatigue, it can almost work for him.

Contrary to the opinion of some of the retards on this blog, Bobby ain’t dumb.

GovClintonTyree

September 28th, 2010
9:17 am

Another thing about short rest. I can point to a lot of guys who were never quite the same after being loaded up in the playoffs. Josh Beckett did it for the Marlins and Jack McKeon, and really hasn’t been right since. Hershiser had the one sublime 1988 for Tommy Lasorda and struggled thereafter. Sandy Koufax didn’t retire at 30 because he wanted to; he likely had a torn UCL and won 27 needing Tommy John.

When the Brewers loaded up CC Sabathia a couple years ago, I said, uh-oh. They’re treating him like a rented mule (which is exactly what he was). He seems to have come through it OK.

Heisenberg

September 28th, 2010
10:10 am

In general, I no not care for short rest either. The best we can hope for is that neither Hudson nor Lowe are power pitchers and perhaps a less than normal rest could make the sinker ball more effective. C Martinez needs to stay loose early just in case. But if he is used in long relief today, that makes Minor the long relief guy tomorrow. So by juggling the rotation to avoid 1 pitcher that has been struggling we have jeopardized 2 games. Risky move. Having Minor make the start with a short leash would have been my preference.

Tim Hudson

September 28th, 2010
10:16 am

Putting my money where my mouth is now or I’m also “packing my $#!+ and going home”

Spud Webb

September 28th, 2010
10:35 am

Not sure WHY we’re putting a guy who’s been struggling on 4 days rest out there on 3 days rest?? Makes ZERO sense.
Out bullpen is already GASSED, this isn’t good at all. Even if we make the playoffs, we’re cooked.

reno

September 28th, 2010
10:54 am

Prado’s injury emblematic – Braves have been “running on fumes for weeks.” Kudos to Martin for giving it all he had, suiting up everyday even when his hand, his groin and now his hip, were begging for some rest and time to heal. This Atlanta horse may “make it to the gates of Tara,” but collapse is inevitable.

Andy

September 28th, 2010
10:54 am

So where should this leave us for the weekend? If Jurrjens is healthy to pitch Friday, that’s the easy answer (with Hanson and Hudson pitching Sat-Sun on regular rest). Otherwise, I’d expect that we’ll see Hanson-Hudson-Lowe all on three days rest vs. the Phillies. That makes me a bit nervous if we’re using only three pitchers for our final six games.

Keith

September 28th, 2010
11:17 am

Re:Andy

I think Cox hopes that we will be ok to use Beachy and/or Minor by then, but who knows? I think we are just taking it one game at a time…wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see a martinez short/spot start at this point. Sounds like JJ might be done…

GO BRAVES!

Keith

September 28th, 2010
11:19 am

Re: MitchC

Agreed. 4 wins does it for sure, but 3 it’s risky.

Heisenberg

September 28th, 2010
11:26 am

JJ is done. If the knee problem was not on his push-off leg which gets more stress and twisting then the landing leg he may have a chance. But with a weak right leg all he will do is hurt his arm trying to compensate.

Hoping for a Kirk Gibson moment from Prado……..Otherwise his injury also looks to finish him for year.

SG10

September 28th, 2010
11:31 am

I am big fan of Conrad but I hope Glaus starts at 3rd base tonight and Conrad comes in as a defensive replacement from the 6th onward..anyway, isn’t there a big split in Conrad’s numbers before the 6th inning and after?

Heisenberg

September 28th, 2010
11:31 am

We should have Hansen on full rest Saturday & Hudson on full rest Sunday with Beachy Friday. Halladay is scheduled to pitch Sunday but it would only be a cameo if anything. Philly will want him for game 1 of playoff series. So if it comes down to us needing a win or bust on Sunday to get in all we gotta do is beat up on a minor league guy with a 6+ ERA with our Ace on the mound. Wait….what?

David O'Brien

September 28th, 2010
11:42 am

DOB, any thought to starting Glaus at 3B rather than Conrad? especially against the lefty miller on wednesday. — Jonathon

I’d be surprised. I don’t think anyone believes Glaus’ defense at 3B is good enough, at this point in his career. Maybe if he was hitting like he did for six weeks in May-June, but not with the offense he’s produced since then.

heymmered

September 28th, 2010
12:06 pm

I wouldnt think Glaus would even be an option at 3rd with two sinker ball pitchers pitching against the Marlins. Also the Marlins have a lot of guys with speed that bunt for base hits. I dont think that would be smart to put him in there this series.

VentersFan

September 28th, 2010
12:50 pm

Bobby will stay with this ‘abbreviated’ rotation when he sees the successful results!

PDOG

September 28th, 2010
1:11 pm

At this point you have to win the next game. You can’t be worring about the Phillies.

SC Smith

September 28th, 2010
1:32 pm

With Prado out and Conrad at third you gotta play Eric or Marlins killer Diaz in the lineup tonite. We need some hitters. Can’t go with Nate & Rick’s bats now. Also Bobby has no other real option than short rest for for the pitchers. If we have a chance of getting to the playoffs it’s with Huddy, Hansen and Lowe.

JohnO

September 28th, 2010
1:41 pm

We are deluding ourselves….You think the phillies are going to come up to the plate and not swing. You think hot pitchers want extra days off. You think there would be no other joy for the phillirs than to knock a division rival out of the playoffs. The phillies play the braves hard theses last 3. Playoffs are not looking too good for us braves fans right now

Ossie

September 28th, 2010
1:43 pm

In a perfect world the Braves score early and ofton tonight so we could then take out hudson in the 4th or 5th…but i did say in a perfect world.

Chad Miller

September 28th, 2010
1:43 pm

please please please start Matt Diaz!!! Please start Matt Diaz! Please

SG10

September 28th, 2010
1:46 pm

I think the Phillies would much prefer to see the banged-up Braves than Giants in the playoffs..Giants have all their pitchers healthy and clicking..Having said that, I think both Braves and Phillies will prefer to see Padres win NL west and Braves win the wild card.

joe

September 28th, 2010
1:47 pm

This is why the baseball (and NBA for that matter) season is too long. Playoffs should start in August and have WS in Sept. The pitching arms just don’t have it after 160+ games. Only pro football has it right.

lexbrave

September 28th, 2010
1:47 pm

johnO, that’s why it’s important for the braves to take care of business against the marlins. the pads and giants will be beating up on each other during the braves series with the phils.

and while they wont give pitcher any extra days off, they certainly won’t be lining up their aces to sweep us. they will be lining them up for the playoffs..and while the hitters will still be swininging, it’s very likely that the big guys will be given some days off to rest.

after all, they have no reason to risk any injury playing hard to win that final series. they are looking to the playoffs instead.

roseman

September 28th, 2010
1:48 pm

To SC and Chad…no way that Diaz starts with a righty on the mound…Bobby will stick with the same rally killing lineup as last night…just to make sure we go no better than 1 for 10 with RISP, and score no more than 2 runs, and put maximum pressue on the pitching…sound familiar?

SG10

September 28th, 2010
1:49 pm

I don’t think anyone considers the braves to be the ‘dangerous’ team if they enter play-offs today…of course, that perception could change quickly if things click this last week and braves go on some run…

SG10

September 28th, 2010
1:52 pm

In the current form, this braves team might struggle against the B team from Philadelphia..it seems these braves play to the level of the competition..actually, more often below it..somebody needs to turn hot suddenly and quickly..I hope that HR by McCann was the beginning of something big this week.

Heisenberg

September 28th, 2010
1:58 pm

Joe, pro football may only have it right for this year. 18 game schedule is on tap for 2011 (if there is a 2011 NFL season).

Corky Miller's Beer Gut

September 28th, 2010
2:04 pm

last night i thought i heard someone say that the braves are going to use a 3 man rotation for the rest of the season…is that true? If so i am not sure what i think about that

SG10

September 28th, 2010
2:21 pm

I think Beachy did fine in couple of starts, They might let him pitch one more time and with an off-day after this series, we may not need 3-man rotation.

bruce mac

September 28th, 2010
2:26 pm

What did Hinski do to Bobby? He got a big pinch hit the last time he got a shot and Bobby starts Melky? Melky is an absolute joke.

Chad Miller

September 28th, 2010
2:30 pm

roseman-

I agree buddy. I love cox to death but it is now time for him to exit just because of what he feels is a better chance or odds or whatever his logic is behind the righty/lefty lineup.

I just don’t understand when you struggle so bad why you would not put Diaz in the lineup. I just don’t get it at all. Why did Diaz not pinch hit last night either. Instead we hit Freddie Freeman. This is not the time to try and have a rookie in there. We need Matt Diaz and I promise you he would deliver. I PROMISE!

DOB can you give me the numbers on Diaz vs. lefties and righties please?

Chad Miller

September 28th, 2010
2:37 pm

bruce mac,

I don’t understand why Hinski is not starting either. Sure doesn’t make any sense to me either.

Heisenberg

September 28th, 2010
2:39 pm

I wonder if BC is having flashbacks to the rally-killing base running blunder by Diaz against these same Marlins in the next to last home series that sent the Braves into 6 game losing streak to end last season? Perhaps that is why he does not put him in the lineup?

FWIW, I am a Matty D fan and have long believed if he got a chance to play every day, he would produce. So that is one theory from way out of LF (where Diaz should be).as to why he is not in the lineup.

Dan Schlossberg

September 28th, 2010
2:44 pm

As long as Melky doesn’t play, I’m happy. If he had given the Braves anything close to what he gave the Yankees last year, Atlanta would be in first place now — not fighting for the wild-card.

benchwarmer

September 28th, 2010
2:47 pm

Steve, that is a fair obsevation cocerning BC’s year.

roseman

September 28th, 2010
2:48 pm

To Chad, B Mac, Heisen…the platoon era is coming to an end finally. Fredi will abandon that old shool logic, and put the best lineup on the field day in…day out…but that might not be much if the ownership does not make an investment in some real talent. It’s hard to get clutch hitting out of a dugout full of B players. But we got plenty of off season to discuss all that. For now, just know with a right hander on the mound, it wil be the Rick and Nate show. Matt will start against Miller (LHP) on Wednesday afternnoon along with Melk Dud probably.

benchwarmer

September 28th, 2010
2:49 pm

Lowe, Hansen , Hudson then Minor and Beachy. Is there anyone else to possibly add to the starters list? KK doesn’t seem to count as he has disappeared.

bruce mac

September 28th, 2010
2:49 pm

Dan, your buddy is in the starting lineup and if you can believe this, he is hitting 5th. No, it is not April 1.

Greg Norton

September 28th, 2010
3:06 pm

I used to play a little third in AA, I would love to come help…………

bascogcjs

September 28th, 2010
3:09 pm

Diaz is a lifetime .300 hitter and we start Melky and Ankiel tonight.
Good grief!

coach smith

September 28th, 2010
3:13 pm

why in the world is Diaz not starting?

David O'Brien

September 28th, 2010
3:16 pm

Coach Smith, check in the blog, Diaz’s numbers vs. Sanchez compared to the other two. I’m guessing that played into the thinking on this one.

Eddie Long did it

September 28th, 2010
4:09 pm

OK, I did it, the Bravos are done & so am I, but Im gonna fight it & let God handle it, just gotta pray just like the Braves need to!

Desibrave

September 28th, 2010
4:27 pm

DOB,
Honestly for the first time in my life I am not really enthusiastic that Hudson is starting , I PRAY HE PROVES ME WRONG and pitches a beauty.. Its a pity that i have to feel that way.

MitchC

September 28th, 2010
5:34 pm

I understand what everyone is saying about 3 wins being risky. The thing is…, four more wins would require sweeping someone, which is not something I’m sure this team is capable of now. Although, Manuel may not play that hard this weekend, considering the Phillies have already clinched the East.

Someone talked about the expectations of Huddy and Lowe on three days rest. I’d say we can get up to six innings from each of them. Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz used to do that. After six, at most, the pen needs to be ready.,

Again, we can do this. The question is: Will we?

Keith

September 28th, 2010
6:18 pm

By the way, if you haven’t seen the article by Jayson Stark on Cox…it might be one of the best I’ve ever read on Bobby. You should check it out! Very good writing. And it even comes from an ESPN guy. lol

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=5625259

Keith

September 28th, 2010
6:19 pm

Re: DOB

Yes, cox loves those matchup stats! I should have checked that before judging Melky in the lineup. :)

GO BRAVES!

Keith

September 28th, 2010
6:20 pm

Re: Eddie Long

If you were “done,” would you posting on this site? Or was that your last post? Ok, see what I mean? You’re not done. :) You’re just saying it in case the Braves lose tonight and you can have something to vent about. haha!

Bartman

September 28th, 2010
8:44 pm

Again…someone PLEASE give Melky a compass and a map. …unreal. Can a corn for any other Brave outfielder..

Bartman

September 28th, 2010
8:49 pm

DOB
Sometimes it’s not just the average that needs to be taken into consideration. Melky CACA Cabrera”s defense is worth a few runs itself….of course you know I mean for the oppostion. He is American League bound in a few weeks anyway. What do ya think….KC?

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