Braves quotes after Tuesday’s loss to Philly

BOBBY COX

“We came right back against a real tough pitcher and a tough bullpen right now. We had a chance to win it. We just … we only got 2-1/3 innings out of our starter, and it’s hard to work around that.

“We held them except for that one inning, which is saying something against their club and the way they can hit.

“We need a well-pitched game tomorrow, for sure.”

On McCann’s baserunning gaffe

“He thought he could make it. That’s on his own. You don’t coach that.”

On Minor, was he supposed to bunt?

“Yeah, he was. For some reason he missed the sign. I have no clue [why].”

On Minor’s pitching

“He struggled in the first, second and the third. He struggled every inning.”

MIKE MINOR

Was it a struggle from the start?

“Not really. I just couldn’t get my breaking pitches over, and basically they just weren’t going to swing at anything that looked like it was bending or change-of-speeds or anything like that. Really they just negated anything but the fastball, so it just kind of limited me to, if I don’t hit the spot, they’re going to hit it pretty hard.”

Did you just not see the bunt sign?

“It was just a mess-up on my part. I had it the first time, but I guess I just wasn’t really thinking, because he didn’t give it to me the second time, but it’s already on. It’s automatic. I just didn’t think about it.

“That could possibly have been a run right there, if I’d have moved him to second, then Omar had the hit, he possibly could have scored.

“But just the whole game, I just really didn’t have anything going for me the whole game.”

Still feeling fatigue like you said a couple of starts back?

“I actually felt pretty good today. But like I said, the changeup – too many of them in the dirt, wasn’t throwing many strikes, so they weren’t offering on that. Curveballs, same thing. They’re not going to offer at it until I prove to them that I can throw it for a strike.”

“I don’t know if it’s the end of the season or what, but lately my command’s been off a little bit. In the minor leagues it was little better, I could locate it where I wanted to in and out, but now it’s getting harder and harder each start. I don’t know. Just more and more over the middle of the plate.”

FREDDIE FREEMAN

On his homer

“Pretty excited. Pennant race, Roy Halladay, couldn’t really ask for much more for the first home run.”

Did you get it back?

“Yeah, it went into our bullpen, so it was a little easier to get it back.”

You hit the first pitch

“I just got a cutter and tried to ambush him, and I got it.”

Have you hit many like that, as hard as that?

“That was definitely as hard as I can hit a ball. That was probably one of my best swings that I’ve taken all year, really.”

Did you get around the bases as fast as Jason does?

“I was just trying not to fall.”

Coming off Halladay, does that make it more special?

“I’ll remember it. I’d still remember it even if it wasn’t off Roy Halladay, but definitely a special one.”

What were you thinking going around the bases, or could you think?

“No. I was just in a cloud, really. Pretty exciting. Unfortunately, we didn’t come out with a victory. But these guys really congratulated me nicely, and it definitely means a lot.”

112 comments Add your comment

kreedham

September 21st, 2010
11:22 pm

Good game…just 2 mistakes…not bunting the runner over and McCann’s blunder

Stephen

September 21st, 2010
11:25 pm

wow pretty strong comments about Minor from Bobby. I don’t know what could have been done to set up the rotation, but making the post without Chipper is a hard road anyway, but then to have the first two of this series feature Richmond’s rotation against the Philllies’ top third…its a miracle we’ve been in both games.

AJ

September 21st, 2010
11:28 pm

Pathetic game played by the all star BMac. All stars do not get thrown out at 3rd the way he did. What a dumb move maybe if he lost some weight he would have gotten thrown out by three steps and not five!1

Rolly

September 21st, 2010
11:30 pm

Braves quotes after Tuesday’s loss to Philly:

Excuses, blah, blah, blah.

The truth:

We sucked.

mahlers porn stache

September 21st, 2010
11:33 pm

Ding dong ding…Did the clock just strike midnite?

paul in richmond

September 21st, 2010
11:35 pm

These two games were marked by physical errors and mental errors, not to mention hitting into multiple double plays while the Phils stole bases and made the routine plays. It is clear who is the better team.

Bobby Cox

September 21st, 2010
11:35 pm

Mac, really busted it down the line on that play to third, he missed by inches, but you know how that wind blows in CBP? Tough luck.

Oh, and I knew Dunn might be in a little trouble, but I was picking a really big bugger outta my nose, and next thing you know, he’d given up 2 runs. Hate it when those buggers get really big like that, it’s hard to think about anything else, but hey, he almost didn’t give those runs up. It was close.

Mr. Enigma

September 21st, 2010
11:35 pm

Wow, what a classless move by McCann to bolt from the park without facing the media for his base-running blunder. I remember Matt Diaz making a similar mistake to end a game in a total heartbreaker in the last week of last year when the Braves were chasing the Rockies for the Wild Card.

Diaz stood at his locker and answered every question anyone had for him.

Diaz is a real man. McCann? More like McCoward.

mahlers porn stache

September 21st, 2010
11:36 pm

Nice to see McOut come up clutch again when we really need it. 0-4 2Ks

Layoff McCann and Heyward….Theyr hustle monsters, and very smart. You gotta take chances to beat the Phillies.

LAG

September 21st, 2010
11:37 pm

No one made an excuse for anything tonight. Cox came as close to throwing someone under the bus (McCann) than I’ve ever seen him do. Minor owned up to his mistakes and his ineffectiveness.

I still hold out hope that we can make some noise the rest of the week, at least.

Philsfan

September 21st, 2010
11:39 pm

McCann was also fortunate that Lee bailed him out on that ill-advised pick off throw to 1st.

Brava

September 21st, 2010
11:45 pm

Freddie Freeman, way to go, young man! In spite of how the game went, you did us proud! Go Braves!

Nick

September 21st, 2010
11:48 pm

It’s obvious these rookie pitchers are not going to cut it. You cant expect Minor to pitch in front of 45K fans with white waving towels and be affective. Both Minor and Beachy were scared. Starting pitching needs to figure it out. As for the offense idk they need to pick it up and its unfortunate Prado is playing hurt which isnt helping

kwajbraves

September 21st, 2010
11:49 pm

@ LAG: We will make some noise alright, crashing in on the last 10 games. Guarantee we will get swept by the Phils and probably lose 2 out of 3 to the Nats, and then we go home and get murder by the Fish and get smacked around by the Phils to closed out the season Braves’ style, choking…

LAG

September 21st, 2010
11:52 pm

Harsh words. I’ve seen more loyal Detroit Lions fans than Braves fans these days.

Stanley Crowe

September 21st, 2010
11:52 pm

Well, damn! The big hit in the bad inning bites us again, and Brian,s base-running error didn’t help. Then Dunn gives up that double to Ibanez. Frankly, we did OK to get three runs off Halladay, who wasn’t at his sharpest tonight but who knows how to limit damage. BUT against this team, when you get three runs off a quality pitcher, you have to make quality pitches yourself. The kids that Bobby put in yesterday and today were a bit overparted. I thought the guys played hard — good work by Ankiel and Lee, a tough miss on a catch by Nate . . . Well, on to tomorrow. It looks as if we’ll still be a game up in the wildcard and at the moment, the Rockies are losing late to Arizona.

AJ

September 21st, 2010
11:53 pm

Lay off BMac?? Here is a question. What is better down by one run with tying run on second OR down by one run with two outs and no one on. He is an idiot for trying to tag up. I would understand it if he was tagging up from 3rd to home but not 2nd to 3rd. The risk totally outweighs the reward and I am not saying that in hindsight cause he was toast. It is common sense!!

Brava

September 21st, 2010
11:54 pm

Do not be fooled by Phillies fans coming on here pretending to be us. We still believe.

LAG

September 21st, 2010
11:56 pm

Well, the real ones need to stand up then. This is our space, and it needs to look like it.

Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!

September 21st, 2010
11:57 pm

Just got home from the game. McCann, bad luck hit the wall AGAIN. Things that stood out the most:
Minor not bunting then Infante singling. McCann making an idiot no-need throw to 1st and Lee saved his arse. McLouth’s face up against the wall and not making the play on Howards ball. McCann trying to tag up from 2nd? Comical. AND Bobby should have went with Venters over Minor in the 6th or 7th, whichever inning Ibanez had the 2 RBI 2B….. Empty feeling….

Congrats Freddie, that was MASHED!!!!!!!!!!!

LAG

September 22nd, 2010
12:04 am

Ibañez had the single off Dunn, who up until tonight had 0’s for an ERA. I don’t blame Bobby for playing the averages, but unfortunately they caught up with him that inning.

kwajbraves

September 22nd, 2010
12:05 am

@ LAG. Please don’t question my loyalty to this team. I’ve rooted for this team during the 80’s when you will get beat up just saying that you were a Braves fan but can you honestly said that this team will rise up in the next 10 games? I want to believe it but reality it is that the Braves achieved culmination point and don’t have enough gas in the tank to take the WC. I don’t question their hearts and desire to win but the talent level is not there.

Bobby Cox's successor

September 22nd, 2010
12:07 am

this is how the pitching staff should be arranged for the rest of the season: obviously hanson has last game against phillies, day off, huddy vs. wash, beachy vs.wash, lowe vs.wash, minor vs fish, hanson vs. fish, jj vs fish(if able to), day off, huddy against phils, lowe against phils, and hanson to finish off against phils

Tom Tucker

September 22nd, 2010
12:17 am

I’m done with this year. Looking forward to a “boobyless” 2011.

Lobosolo

September 22nd, 2010
12:22 am

C’mon, Solly Rolly the Folly… there you go using “we” again…

doesitmatter

September 22nd, 2010
12:22 am

Brava, I sense paranoia, get a life. Check to see if anyone is hiding in the closet too.

Blake

September 22nd, 2010
12:29 am

We can’t make friggin’ mistakes.This Is for all the marbles…Why aren’t we playing good baseball?Great teams play well at this time…I guess we’re showing what we’re going to do In the playoffs If we get there!

Mitchell

September 22nd, 2010
12:33 am

“He struggled in the first, second and the third. He struggled every inning.”

Wow. That’s a nice thing to say from Mr. Player’s Manager.

Joe Torre

September 22nd, 2010
12:33 am

Brian “I eat to many Big Mac’s” is either stupid or pulling a Pete Rose and betting on these games. He would be lucky to start for my local high school’s team with his defensive skills. He can not catch, he can not throw anyone out, he can not throw a pick off throw with out it ending up against the outfield fence. I do not remember him being this bad before. What is is problem? Take tonight, pitch right down the middle, it smacks off the lip of the mit and the runner moves up to second. Yes, they did not score, but in a game like this, you can not let that happen. I do not think he is lazy, but he just will not move his body to block a ball in the dirt. He is the second coming of Mike Piaza.

RHR

September 22nd, 2010
12:34 am

Wow no sugar coating from 6 tonight.

Charlie Lau

September 22nd, 2010
1:00 am

Most of you have not been willing to admit it, but we are not a very sound team defensively and make far too many mental errors that do not show up in the boxscore. We play with a lot of heart but not very smart at times. Losing Chipper was the death knell for our championship hopes.

braves70

September 22nd, 2010
1:03 am

I look at the positives from the last two nights. Good performances from our young guys like Beachy, Freeman, Kimbrell, and Minor did o.k. while Heyward continues to grow and impress. The biggest positive is that we are one day closer to the end of the Bobby Cox nightmare and we will have a real manager that these young guys can count on.

LAG

September 22nd, 2010
1:19 am

Fair enough, kwajbraves. I guess I just get sick of so many “fans” here ragging on the 2nd-best team in the NL that I’m on edge.

Urgency does strange things to teams left for dead (see 2007 Rockies). I still believe that the Braves have something in reserve. Whether or not they use it is ultimately up to them.

Mr. Enigma

September 22nd, 2010
1:19 am

No, losing Kris Medlen was the biggest blow. Medlen was 6-0 and the Braves were 12-1 in the 13 games he started.

Losing Medlen was bigger than losing Chipper.

Jonathan Simeone

September 22nd, 2010
1:24 am

I think the Braves have gotten a lot from this team. The injuries to the rotation are really hurting. But the reason they are losing is because they cannot score enough runs. For this team to score they have to get at least three base runners in an inning. They don’t have the speed or power to score many times without getting multiple base runners in the same inning. Good pitchers just are not going to have many innings like that.

Jonathan Simeone

September 22nd, 2010
1:27 am

One more thing. How can the manager of this team be considered one of the best ever when his team repeatedly kills itself with bad base running, fundimentals and terrible defense? And why is it that he never employs a hit-and-run? How many double plays is he going to watch before realizing there is something he could, on occasion, do about it?

Brother John

September 22nd, 2010
1:32 am

Let me see if I got this straight. We are in a pennant race. We start three career Minor League pitchers against what may be the three best pitchers in the Major Leagues. Gee, I wonder what the results are going to be?? Beachey?? I’ve followed the team all season. I’ve never even heard of this guy and you start him in a pennant race against the World champs?? Not fair to him or us fans. The inmates have taken over the asylum. Asinine. Ridiculous. And a slap in the face to every fan who keeps trying to care….

LuisG - Win-it-4-Bobby-n-Chipper

September 22nd, 2010
1:49 am

Just two mistakes? What about Mike Dunn not executing against Ibanez? McCann called for an outside pitch and Dunn threw it middle-in. I’d say he’d like to have that pitch back.

Let’s salvage tomorrow’s game. The Padres already won (1 GB) and the Rockies lost (3 GB).

I still like the fact that both games have been tight. Imagine if Bobby would’ve set the Braves’ rotation with our best 3 guys right now. Maybe things would’ve been different (blowouts, a series split through 2 games, we leading the series 2-0). We’ll never know.

I think Prado is pressing himself too much. He should relax a little; if he does it, things will go right again for him.

By the way, congratulations to Freeman.

LuisG - Win-it-4-Bobby-n-Chipper

September 22nd, 2010
1:58 am

* Wednesday’s game.

Nate McHititouth

September 22nd, 2010
1:59 am

I like McCant less every day.

David Ross is a better catcher and almost as good of a hitter.

Put McCant’s rear in the bench,

Robert T

September 22nd, 2010
2:52 am

Congrats to the Braves for making the playoffs…oh wait you mean we still have 10 games left…really SOMEBODY MIGHT WANT TO MAKE THE BRAVES AWARE before they get passed by the Padres or Rockies!!!

bravesfaninNashville

September 22nd, 2010
3:01 am

As I said two weeks ago Frank Wren was out GM’d by the Phillies this year. Brilliant move to go after a True Ace in Halladay. This move ranks up there with the Braves getting Maddux after he wins a Cy Young with the Cubs. The Braves should have made a play on Halladay also and could have pulled it off. The NAIL in the coffin was letting Philly get Oswalt. The Braves made no moves at the break that made sense. C’mon Derrick Lee was barely able to stand upright, Ankiel swings at everything above ground and Farnsworth has proven to be very hittable during pressure situations which every time we take the field now. I do not believe that series of small moves makes up for one great one, case in point Fred McGriff. He was the one true impact bat that could change the Braves season around and they went and got him and look at the results. The Braves didn’t get a big impact bat and they didn’t follow the blueprint of getting top shelf Ace pitching either. They tried to do it with Kawakami and Lowe. In the meantime we watch Phillie land the two pitchers that could be the most dominating tandem of right handed pitchers this postseason. I wish the Braves would quit fooling around and get another true Ace pitcher and an impact bat to play left or center. We have so much salary tied up in Kawakami, Lowe and McClouth ($29Mil/yr) that we could have had Halladay and kept Hudson and had a lot of money left over for an impact bat during the season. It’s a shame to see the Braves be outmanuvered by the Phillies but they were and it’s showing now. Halladay has won every big game they’ve needed him too and Oswalt has been nearly perfect. Please let’s get back to Pitching, Pitching and Pitching…..

dong kumong

September 22nd, 2010
3:50 am

hey nashville, Get back to pitching after you guys wash your hands first.

kingchipper

September 22nd, 2010
3:56 am

This team stinks more than my wife!

rickman

September 22nd, 2010
5:38 am

I’ve said before and I’ll say it again..BRAVES ARE TOAST…They will not even make wildcard….Losing two out of three to two last place teams…They deserve to GO HOME….

Desibrave

September 22nd, 2010
6:15 am

Problem is Bobby Cox is not a great motivator. He is just a very good player manager and will never have anything to say against his team. No matter what fielding errors nor base running mistakes the team make he will never say a single word against his team.

I am NOT saying that Bobby needs to chew up his team in public but we really don’t know what goes on behind the scenes.

Braves gotta win tonight’s game. We owned Oswalt during regular season through out his career., Need a pitching gem from Hanson.

Bartman

September 22nd, 2010
6:22 am

Question on the bullpen from last night… Most nights Dunn is throwing 96 and touching 97 sometimes. Last night he maxed out at 94. Not bad at all, I know, but not his norm. Probably just slightly fatigued. Anyway, Moylan was warmed up and rady to come in when Werth came up. Why did Dunn stay in and Moylan stand and watch in the bullpen? Was it because Ibanez was on deck? The batter that needed to be taken care of was Werth. That was a crucial at bat! I kept thinking that I’d see Bobby pop out and make the switch. No such luck. …just sayin.

Desibrave

September 22nd, 2010
6:28 am

Bartman, I hear you. I did feel Dunn faced atleast one extra hitter.

I think we are still very much in it. Try sweeping Nationals at any cost and we should be in playoffs.

JB

September 22nd, 2010
6:50 am

Okay Braves fans, I know you’re upset about throwing the 2 rookies in the first two games, but when you’re the team down by 3 games, you can’t afford to modify your rotation because you can’t afford to take any games for granted.

That being said, 4 errors in the first 2 games, McCann getting thrown out at 3rd and Minor missing the bunt sign…you can’t even hope to win making those kinds of mistakes against the Phillies.

Charlie

September 22nd, 2010
6:51 am

The season is what it is: Championship Contenders vs. Playoff Pretenders

The Braves are scared, and they play like it. Prado doesn’t want to be out there. He wants someone else to CHOKE. The foul ball he missed…fear. His at bats, shaking his hurt hand. His body language is “get me out of here”. Nate is back to being the REAL Nateof the past year. McCann is completely brain-dead. Completely. A couple days ago, his quote was “we’re right where we want to be.” Idiot. And he’s playing like one. Matty: :We’re excited about this roadtrip”. Really? Does LOSING and CHOKING excite you? Maybe the Phillies were excited for it
.
Minor, our Vandy college boy shows that he isn’t ready to play at this level, physically or mentally. When Braves pitchers make a mistake, the Phiilys crush the ball. The Braves usually hit into a DP, or foul it off. The Philly’s execute. The Braves Choke, and spit it out. It all comes down to the same thing: Contenders vs. Pretenders.
Phillies complete the sweep tomorrow. Braves continue their collapse tomorrow. The Braves will not be in post season.
Pretenders don’t. Contenders do. Both the Phillies and Braves are what they are.
I’m glad Bobby was a bit more realistic in his comments. As his team spit it out, for 2010, and Bobby is about to retire, he might just as well give up his cheerleader skirt, and say it as it is.

I know, I know nothing

September 22nd, 2010
6:53 am

I still say the line up has got to change.. Prado is still hurt (finger) shakes his hand after every at bat. the guy is also tired needs a day off play Conrad.. Infante leads off insert Mcclout in the 2 spot next move Heyward to the 3 spot. lee 4th then Mac 5th,Gonzo,6th Diaz 7th Conrad 8th Hanson 9th

infante
McClout
Heyward
Lee
Mac C
Gonzo
Diaz
Conrad
Hanson

best of luck

September 22nd, 2010
6:58 am

Now wasn’t that special. Bobby letting Ankiel take the last at bat. Mr. Clutch. I guess the ball boy wasn’t available.

Bartman

September 22nd, 2010
6:59 am

Desibrave – Thanks. I’m glad it just wasn’t me.
For the first time this season, the Braves don’t control their own destiny. I t was kin of a stretch going into last night anyway but now they have to have help to win the division. Although, if things get crazy and they win out, you kind of like their chances… dreamer…

RM

September 22nd, 2010
7:07 am

The result of tonight’s game doesn’t matter. Reality is the Phillies are healthy and playing better ball. I’m not sure if this Braves team can hold off the NL West. They played their best ball prior to the break. It was needed in Sept/Oct too. Too many injuries, errors, and you can’t depend on two rookie pitchers in the biggest series of the year. The players have done their best with their ability. It’s managements responsibility to build the best team possible. Sorry but trading for Ankiel isn’t doing your best.
We all know B Mac has been an All-Star year in, year out for his bat but he’s not a #4 hitter nor has he had anyone batting around him this season for protection. The shift has eliminated quite a few hits and he’s hit into too many dp’s this year. Seems every time when it counts. We judge his stats for a catcher, which are good, but if you compair to other #4’s he is not even avg. Moves have got to be made to get him back to the 5 or 6 hole. Maybe then his avg will return to the .290’s. Or maybe not depending if he can see. He’s also been the worst defensive catcher the past two years. Most errors and PB’s. Not acceptible. A change of positions seems to be in order. Only issue is 1B would be the only option with his lack of speed. Either way the defense must improve for this team to make the next step.

Bartman

September 22nd, 2010
7:11 am

From the brain F-rt Department… Was B-Mac having a Deon or Otis flashback last night or did he think the bases were 60 ft apart and not 90. If he did, then he would have made it by 10 feet easily… but since they aren’t, he was out by 20… Oh my…that was different.

RM

September 22nd, 2010
7:42 am

Guys there’s no way this team can sweep the Nat’s AND Fish in the up coming series. They haven’t done it all season so the likelyhood of it happening now is……not going to happen. What is more improbable is the Phillies losing more than half of their remaining games to even give the Braves a shot. They’ve won 9 in a row. Dream and sprinkle pixie dust all you want but best case is the wild card. Look at the last 10 games played by the contenders. All are above .500 other than the Braves and Padres. I’m by no means a Philly fan but numbers don’t lie. Tip your hat to their organization for the bold moves made by their GM, who gave Charlie the tools to win, and battling through the injuries. We can gripe all day about Mac’s stupid running attempt and Bobby’s relief pitcher snafu’s but it all boils down to the product we put on the field. When you have 2 .200 hitters in the lineup at the same time, that’s a management issue. The Phillies trade for Oswalt, we get Farnsworth. Enough said.
For those of us who will support the Braves for years to come let’s hope that the innings Venters and Minor logged this season don’t effect them down the road.

turkeycaller

September 22nd, 2010
7:50 am

People might as well quit whining about Larry Jones. He was no help when Cox was trotting his smartass out there batting third when he decided he would play.Good damned riddance to Cox and hopefully to the pariah Jones.

Philly in 2010

September 22nd, 2010
7:55 am

“Braves will Sweep”, “Braves will win the division by 3 games”…. AWWWWWW….. Sorry…..
If it makes you feel any better, you may sweep the Phillies in ATL, but that because we’ll have the division wrapped up any you will be facing
Vance Worley, Kyle Kendrick, and some combination of Contreras, Bastardo and Zagurski. But then again they way the Braves rolled over like dogs this series you’ll make those pitchers look like Halladay, Hamels and Oswalt.

7 games up in the division to out of the playoffs… WOW.

phillies 2008

September 22nd, 2010
8:10 am

Wow you Braves fans sound like everyone else when things do not go your way. Face it, with all the Phillies injuries this year, you got lucky to have been where you were leading the division. You had to know that if the Phils ever got healthy they would play better. As a Phils fan I figured they would play better if all those players got healthy but they seem to be in another zone right now. They are lazer focused and it doesn’t matter who they play they know they will win. With the 3 aces in the pitching lineup they will be a very formidable opponent for anyone so look at it this way-save yourself the worry and go with the flow, if the Braves win great, if not, they have performed above expectation. Go Phils

PH

September 22nd, 2010
8:23 am

both games so far, the Braves beat the Braves. Game 1, lousy defense really hurt the team, knuckler or not, J Hey should have caught that ball. Still trying to figure out why Melky was starting over the somewhat hot McClouth too.
In game 2, you have Minor being clueless at bat. I mean man on 1st, no out, why would you not bunt if you are the pitcher? And McCann, when balls are hit to left centerfield and don’t even reach the warning track, why would you with no speed try advancing?
It’s not over yet, but the Wild Card lead is only a game right now, so the team needs to start playing smart baseball.

gene garbage

September 22nd, 2010
8:29 am

they were all “so excited to get to Philly for this series”…i wonder if they’re all so ‘excited to get the heck out of Philly’ at this point…kinda going the way i expected, so i really can’t be all that upset, although it is really upsetting,,,,does that make any sense? lol..

sum bi*ch.he did it again

September 22nd, 2010
8:31 am

If Cox sends out the same line up –in the same order.. I’ll do something more entertaining tonight like count my socks.. Geez

Lil' Barry Bailout

September 22nd, 2010
8:34 am

Someone here recently compared Bobby Cox to Earl Weaver, whose philosophy was “pitching, defense, and a three run homer”. That’s pretty much right on, except for the defense part. And of course, the three run homer part. Oh, and the Braves keep getting outpitched too.

Pathetic.

Lil' Barry Bailout

September 22nd, 2010
8:36 am

I listened to last night’s game on ESPN radio. The color guy described one of the Phillies extra-base hits as being like a Little League home run…just keep running because the defense will never get the ball to the same place as the runner.

don

September 22nd, 2010
8:40 am

They just got beatten by the best SP in Baseball, The Braves really are not ready in any phase of the game to go to post season. After Phillies- Yankees- it is a step down to the Rays-Twins- Rangers- Red Sox- and the rest of the NL. Noone in NL is going to beat the Phillies, either.

Shaggy1973

September 22nd, 2010
8:51 am

People, people, people please don’t tell me that you guys really expected anything different than the outcome of these two games. The Phils send out their three aces and Bobby sends two rookies and Hanson. One making his MLB debut and the other that has been getting hit hard the last three games. We can only hope Hanson has his stuff tonight. We are lucky these games were as close as they were.

TPic

September 22nd, 2010
9:05 am

The real Cox quotes after last night’s game…..

“You mean his name really is Melky? Who would stick a kid with a name like that – can I call him ‘kid’?”
“We outhit them – doubled them in hits. What? That was last night? Dang it.”
“Our pitching will match up with theirs real well…oh – someone should have told me they were rookies.”
“I thought Chippie hit a couple balls real hard. What? Then who the hell is hitting third”?
“The boys look tired. They’re really looking forward to the all-star break.”

TPic

September 22nd, 2010
9:07 am

“Has anyone seen my catcher’s mitt?”

barth

September 22nd, 2010
9:19 am

“Losing Chipper was the death knell for our championship hopes.”

–are you nuts? He was batting about 260 and making a ton of errors

Chuck

September 22nd, 2010
9:19 am

Our pitchers are all throwing belt-high way too much – we’ll see if Hanson can do better. The Phils are the better team and they are playing lights out right now. We’re lucky the score hasn’t been much worse the way we’ve left balls up in the zone. Hate it for the Braves cause they’re my team. They looked maybe psyched out last night. Only Derrick Lee played like a regular game. Infante looked tight and Gonzo looked out-of-sorts. Have to make the plays!

AJJ

September 22nd, 2010
9:34 am

Is there a reason why the braves never send runners to break up a potential double play, Last night you had Agon on third and Ankiel at 1st with 1 out, and Ankiel was never sent, and a taylor made double play ball was hit up to the middle but only broken up because the throw hit Ankiel, it would of cost us a run last night. In the 8th as well, you had heyward at 1st with 1 out and instead of stealing and potentialy getting a guy in scoring position and taking away the force, Mccann hits into a double play? Isnt Heward and Ankiel two of the faster guys on the team?

Unknown Hinson

September 22nd, 2010
9:35 am

Errors, errors, errors, errors. You will not win if you put up 2 errors a game against a contender. Why does our defense all of the sudden suck so bad?

mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache

September 22nd, 2010
9:36 am

Its all the same, bad play. No one on the team wants to be there. You have to play with some heart. Great home run from freddie.

moehawk

September 22nd, 2010
9:37 am

Minor looked scared and disinterested last night! If this is all we have moving forward(2 Rookies) then we are doomed!. Plus the bats need to heat up too. Its like we always forget how to play baseball at the end of the season or the first round of the playoffs….Stop teasing us that u are a good team and go out and beat the good teams. Its all good to sweep the Mets but if u cant beat the Phils or the Rockies that tells me we arent really that good. This is like a ten year DEJA VU. If this is how we are going to play I would rather not even go to the postseason, save me the headache for cheering for nothing. Ridiculous…Love Bobby but Glad he is leaving.

. Don

September 22nd, 2010
9:38 am

There was a big error in the newspaper box score.
It showed that Bobby Cox played both Ankiel and McLouth in last night’s game.
All of us Cox supporters know that there is no possible way that he would do that.

. Don

September 22nd, 2010
9:40 am

But then again – so many times the MVP for the opposing team is – Bobby Cox.

hAL

September 22nd, 2010
9:43 am

i afgree losing med wasz huge throwing in those two rooks hurt though beachy cant really be blamed they better catch the ball today with bp hanson going or we will get killed his fastball may actually reach 97 today going out of the park lol

Steve762

September 22nd, 2010
9:49 am

Folks, we lost the division back in July when we sucked for 2 weeks straight and Wagner blew (I think) 3 saves. We lost out big division lead then. This series is just the final death throw.

We’ve got a lot of good young talent on this team; I think next year will be much better. Maybe Torre would consider managing the Braves….

Mad Man

September 22nd, 2010
9:50 am

As a Phillies fan, I’ll tell you that McCann and Cabrera always seem to kill our guys. I suspect that’s why Cox has them in their. Same with Chipper, even if he’s hitting .260. It always looks like .400 to us. The Braves are having a great season with a patched up line up. They will be making some changes but it looks like they will be playing for the top spot in the NL East for a few years.

Mad Man

September 22nd, 2010
9:51 am

Doh! “There!” Not “their.”

Jerry

September 22nd, 2010
9:56 am

about 10 years ago my son made an astute comment. We were at a civil war reenactment and he said watching the Braves is like watching the reenactment. You enjoy it but you know is going to lose in the end. There is no hope. The have no desire, they will be 6 games back after tonight, they have to play the last place Nationals who they can’t beat, plus on the road. They do have a distinct possibility of losing 2nd place to the Marlins. I mean they are only 10 games up with ten to play.

Braves Fan Stuck in...you know...but who the f cares

September 22nd, 2010
10:00 am

That… That hurt.

Poorbrave

September 22nd, 2010
10:26 am

I love the Braves and have been a fan since the 60’s. The Braves did just as I expected. This has happen now for 4 years are more, come play-off time Braves go south. Maybe with new Manager next year (hope new Blood and not TP) the Braves will have new excitement and play with more desire to win. Now they are just going through the motions as always. You could look at dug-outs last night and see the Braves had no life except when Freeman hit his homer. Wild Card = Braves one and gone if they get in playoff. The truth hurts but I still pull for them, Guess I’m crazy.

Oh...

September 22nd, 2010
10:30 am

MaC played like Frenchy last night..in another world.

SRF

September 22nd, 2010
10:43 am

It really has turned into a joke. The Braves roster is a junkyard, full of washed up, old, cripple or AAA players. Somebody please tell me how the roster will be better next year ???

Keith

September 22nd, 2010
11:01 am

Re: Jerry

Actually, this team has no shortage on heart. They have plenty of desire. I guess it’s different since I’ve basically watched every pitch (except a few) this year. Attended around 20 games. Seen all the comeback wins. They have plenty of that.

Here’s the thing:

Phillies had their best vs our worst. Halladay and Hamels vs two very green rookies (beachy and minor). Our defense and miscues didn’t help, and if we played error-free baseball, we would have won at least one of the two.

My point is they were at their home field, with their best starters, and we were still in the game.

I think we have the heart and talent to be competitive in a 7-game series…where they probably won’t ever face Beachy or Minor….two games of huddy, hanson, JJ, and maybe one from Lowe.

Charles

September 22nd, 2010
11:13 am

I wonder if any of the players are thanking Bobby for going to war with the season on the line with two rookies and a second year player? Just more Bobby Cox brilliance.

Castrologist

September 22nd, 2010
11:21 am

I have never heard such negative nancies in my entire life. No heart? They lost to a team ON FIRE, against arguably the very best pitcher in baseball with us trotting out a kid who has 8 major league starts. Lay off people. There is still a lot of baseball left, and I am including the playoffs. This team of spare parts has been one of the funnest to watch in ages.

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stoky

September 22nd, 2010
11:35 am

As a going away present the Phillies are planning to give Bobby a case of Kleenex in order to save his index finger

Reality 4

September 22nd, 2010
11:39 am

Speaking of B-Mac, doesn’t he give a higher target to pitcher than Ross does? I wonder how much pitchers really pay attention to the catcher’s mitt as the target.

THE CURSE OF DAVID JUSTICE LIVES IN THE ATL

September 22nd, 2010
11:47 am

HOW IS THAT DERICK LEE TRADE WORKING OUT? SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN MANNY!

P.S. WE HAVE’NT WON A TITLE SINCE YOU REDNECKS CHASED DAVID JUSTICE OFF!

THE CURSE OF DAVID JUSTICE LIVES IN THE ATL

September 22nd, 2010
11:52 am

THE CURSE? CHIPPER JONES IS OUT FOR THE SEASON!

Brock

September 22nd, 2010
1:17 pm

The only reason we are in the WC race now is because we swept the mets. In order to get a sweep, which we needed and got, was to pitch our best. If we had lost to the mets, 1 game even, we would lose ground on the WC and the east at the same time. We stopped the bleeding in the WC race for 3 games. That was huge! Knowing the phils were next and even knowing if we didn’t beat them one game, the game(s) we gained on the WC by defeating the mets were crucial.

If you think its bad now it could have been worse. If we can somehow get through this game with a win we have possibly salvaged the WC. Remember, the padres and giants can suck as bad as we do at times.

Dazed and Confused 2 (starring Bobby Cox, Mike Minor, and Brian McCann)

September 22nd, 2010
1:36 pm

I am a life long Braves fan. What angers me is not THAT the Braves lost two to the Phillies in Philadelphia, but HOW they lost them.
1. Mike Minor looked like a complete moron – If you are the pitcher at bat with a man on 1st and no one out, YOU DO NOT NEED a sign to know that you should bunt. Every little league player knows that.
2. Mike Minor (The Village Idiot) – what did you think was going to happen when you threw a belt-high fastball over the middle of the plate to Jason Werth.
3. Panda McCann (as McDoubleplay)…It was not getting thrown out at 3rd that angered me, but 6th double-play you hit into with a 3-1 count and the game on the line. When are you going to learn that they are probably going throw you a roll over pitch on 3-1.
4. Bobby Cox (The Dunce) – First you throw 2 rookies against the Phillies 2 Aces. You are lucky the games have been this close. Further, what is wrong with you – McCloth was on a scorching streak and you let him ride the bench for Double-Play Melky. You wait just long enough for his confidence to subside and THEN you play him.

Al

September 22nd, 2010
1:39 pm

P.S. WE HAVE’NT WON A TITLE SINCE YOU REDNECKS CHASED DAVID JUSTICE OFF!

WHAT IDIOT GETS ON HERE AND AND ASSUMES WE CHASED JUSTICE OFF, YOU MUST BE ONE OF THEM ORANGE OR GREEN HAIRED FREAKY PEOPLE..YOU COME TO GA WE WILL CHASE YOU OFF, IDOITS LIKE THIS MAKES THESE FORUMS BAD YEAH THE BRAVES ARE PLAYING BAD BUT I STILL WATCH AND SUPPORT THEM. AND ALWAYS WILL WHAT TEAM DOESN’T PLAY BAD ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT, I RECALL BEING AT A BRAVES PHILLIES GAME AND THE PHILLIES PLAYED LIKE GIRLS!! SO GET A LIFE

jay dubu

September 22nd, 2010
1:39 pm

The Braves don’t have the hitters, speed, or defensive play to match Philly’s performance. The Braves hope was to outpitch them, but Philly’s pitching hasn’t gotten better in September, where as the Braves’ pitching is going backwards in Sept.

KK has become a bullpen attendant, Medlen is injured, & JJ is injuried. That’s half of the the starters that the Braves would use during this season.

Hanson, Lowe, and Hudson will have to carry the weight the rest of the way. If the Braves can get into the playoffs, and 6 can get his starters lined up as he desires, the Braves can still have a strong showing in the playoffs.

Keith

September 22nd, 2010
1:48 pm

Sorry Braves lost, but Phillies are just a better team especially in the clutch. They deserve to win the pennant, and I believe they will. It was a poorly managed game by Bobby “The Duck” Cox. Here we are in the pennant race, and the Phils are using their best pitchers, and we are using some promising inexperienced pitchers against them. What a mistake. Bobby proves again as he has done so many times that he is just not the best manager in the league. It will be a breath of fresh air next year when Bobby is finally gone. Until then, maybe next year as they say in Chicago. The Braves certainly deserve better fate after the year they have had, but what do you expect in the end when Bobby makes decisions like he is making. Bye Bye Bobby!

ray k.

September 22nd, 2010
2:13 pm

Mccann is a liability. plain and simple. if he were a .320 30 HR guy like piazza, then we take the good with the bad, but he is much worse than piazza was BOTH offensively and defensively. He is the worst defensive catcher in the NL hands down. No natural catcher like ability. Just a good bat when he’s not suffering from blindness.

DEP

September 22nd, 2010
2:31 pm

two words. who cares

sray k.

September 22nd, 2010
2:32 pm

keith,
I agree with you: the braves have shown plenty of heart and do have talent–its brains, instinct, and coaching they sorely lack. chipper, glavine, maddux, lemke, bream, gant were true baseball players with unmistakable instincts; the current group is a rag tag collection of guys who are cut from a different cloth. Mccann is the de facto leader, yet he makes an imbecilic decision–a judgment, not a heat of the moment reaction, mind you–in a game of enormous importance that NO OTHER PLAYER in the league would even consider as an option. When guys like chipper see plays like that, inside he is shaking his head in disbelief.
Is chipper missed? Unequivocally, yes. He represents the last vestige of a bygone era.

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