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Dave Justice
September 4th, 2010
11:32 am
I hate those travel uniforms. They look like they’re wearing tee-shirts!
Rooferdawg
September 4th, 2010
11:39 am
Wow! I have never seen Dave so touchy. Seems like some of you are getting to him. Not to worry, both phils and Braves will make playoffs, ten anything could happen!
Rooferdawg
September 4th, 2010
11:40 am
*then
sid's bream
September 4th, 2010
11:41 am
bum ba bum bum, ba ba ba bum bum ba bum.
(funeral dirge)
The End Is Near
September 4th, 2010
11:46 am
Oh, oh…..don’t look now, but I think I just saw the Grim Reaper come out of the visiting team’s clubhouse.
Mutts
September 4th, 2010
11:46 am
27 games to go, but if it was over now The Braves would be NL East champs.
Greg Olson
September 4th, 2010
11:47 am
They sure don’t play much like our ‘91 team.
Mutts
September 4th, 2010
11:47 am
Braves have 6 head-to-head games to knock the cheese steak out of the Phillies.
Mutts
September 4th, 2010
11:49 am
It’s cute that the Philly fans with their storied history of losing view the Braves as the top of the mountain – that explains why so many of these losers blog on our Braves sites.
Largo
September 4th, 2010
11:49 am
At one time Ankiel couldn’t find the plate with the ball. Now he can’t find the ball with a bat.
Ted Turner
September 4th, 2010
11:50 am
Bring back Ted Turner!
rekingball
September 4th, 2010
11:51 am
All of these negative comments makes me wonder, if any of these so-called “fans” know anything about baseball, or keep up with the Braves at all.
Not really, because I don’t believe, that they do, and I don’t consider them fans.
Ill-a-delph
September 4th, 2010
11:52 am
I could care less if it was the braves, the mets, or the marlins in our way – it just happens to be the braves, and you are about to get steamrolled….
David O'Brien
September 4th, 2010
11:52 am
Rooferdawg: You needn’t worry about me. I’d post a photo of the beach from this hotel room I’m sitting in, but I’d prefer you envision me all seething and upset over comments about the first-place Braves (smile).
Philly Dilly
September 4th, 2010
11:55 am
How do you spell “loser”? B-R-A-V-E-S!
jim
September 4th, 2010
11:56 am
KK was dreadful, but Bobby could have pitched Greg Maddux or Warren Spahn last night, and if they didn’t get the RBI hit they would have lost against a AAAA pitcher and a weak pen. The offense the last 2 nights has been bad, and D Lee has been particularly conspicous in his lack of production. Over the time frame of the Lee trade, Ankiel has grossly underperformed, but he has produced more hits, and a dramatic win, than D Lee. Lee and Glaus have to exchange their current roles, and Freeman needs to see a lot more playing time!
Bob Horners Broken Wrist
September 4th, 2010
11:57 am
I’ve been as critical as any about the play of the Braves, but the truth is if we continue to win 2 out of 3 we should be in good shape. We may not win the East but given what we have to work with I think they are doing the best they can. Give the Phillies credit, they got through that brutal west coast trip in remarkable shape. You can’t fault the Braves for that. The problem is our pitchers are in a mini-slump at the wrong time. Its going to happen, look at San Diego. The Padres may not even make the playoffs the way they are playing right now. The key for the Braves is for them to take care of their own business and if that isn’t good enough, you have to tip your cap to the other team.
Mutts
September 4th, 2010
11:59 am
How do you spell team with worse record than Braves? P-H-I-L-LI-E-S!
rekingball
September 4th, 2010
12:00 pm
Sil-a-Delph@11:52……..Philadelphia might have the better team, and they may win the East(although, they are still in 2nd this day).
But we still have about 5 million better looking ladies, than the prettiest woman in Pa.
jim
September 4th, 2010
12:05 pm
The games against the Marlins and Cards are tough and just as important, as are the games against the rest of the remaining schedule. If we don’t win these games, the Phillie series won’t matter much either. It’s too bad we get to face Johnson and Sanchez this weekend and the Phils are going to miss them. The Phils have 7 games left with the Marlins, and they look to be the toughtest matchup before the Braves.
Ill-a-delph
September 4th, 2010
12:09 pm
The phillies are in second as of right now, thats okay, its a methodical push to the top for the phillies – just going to work everyday, taking care of business
THE CURSE OF DAVID JUSTICE LIVES IN THE ATL
September 4th, 2010
12:09 pm
STOP PLAYING DERREK LEE AND PUT GLAUS BACK IN,WE WERE IN 1ST PLACE BEFORE WE GOT LEE,AFTER WE GOT LEE,WE ARE 1 GAME UP ON PHILLY!
P.S. LONG LIVE THE CURSE,TED TURNER PLEASE BUY THE BRAVES BACK!
Bob Horners Broken Wrist
September 4th, 2010
12:12 pm
What I find funny about the Philly fans is that they just get on the blog to say, we’re done….which is just ludicrous when we’re winning at a .600 clip AND in 1st place still. Yes the Phillies are playing very well but YOUZ GUYZ aren’t even in 1st place. They kind of forget they got swept last week by Houston and that could happen again anytime. The last week of the season will tell the tale of who the better team is.
rekingball
September 4th, 2010
12:33 pm
And we still have better looking women.
Bob Horners Broken Wrist
September 4th, 2010
12:54 pm
ANother funny thing??? THE CURSE OF DAVID JUSTICE!!!! Dude, you are funny….as in weird. If anything its THE CURSE OF BOBBY COX!!! The worst post-season manager in the history of baseball!!! Little league teams bunt better than the Braves and if it isn’t in THE BOOK, he ain’t doing it. The only problem with Bobby’s book is that it is missing all the chapters about how to manufacture runs in a pitching duel, when to take out a pitcher and how to effectively manage your bullpen.late in the season and post season. But then again that what you get when you borrow from the library.
I know…I know….I’m not as smart as Bobby Cox blah, blah, blah. However, anybody with a brain knows those are Bobby’s biggest faults and he can’t or won’t learn from his mistakes.
Greatest regular season manager ever…when he has three or more All-Star starting pitchers….not so great otherwise.
Brava
September 4th, 2010
12:54 pm
…And our players take showers and wash their hair every day, rather than every three days. Also, when our fans barf, it’s because the Phillies smell so awful and they do it in a toilet, not intentionally on eleven year old girls.
Bob Horners Broken Wrist
September 4th, 2010
12:58 pm
I would like to see Troy play a game or five if they aren’t going to play Fab Five Freddie. Dude raked when he was healthy and he should be feeling pretty good, although we all know how Bobby is. Bobby won’t take out the starter unless they have a bullet lodged in their carcas or ask to come out.
Annoying.
Brava
September 4th, 2010
12:59 pm
“Greatest regular season manager ever…when he has three or more All-Star starting pitchers….not so great otherwise.”
_______
Um, excuse me, but who exactly are the THREE All-Star starting pitchers playing for the Braves this year? I mean, they are sitting on top of the NL East, so I’d call this a great season for the Braves and Bobby Cox.
“Anyone with a brain” can see that you have no clue what you are ranting about.
nolarw
September 4th, 2010
1:00 pm
Thing was . . . KK looked terrible in minors. It is as if Cox didn’t have a clue as to what to expect. And, do you HAVE to have a five man rotation when the pennant is on the line ??
ijudgenot
September 4th, 2010
1:05 pm
Wren could have gotten a big bat but that would have meant giving up Teheran, Viscano, or Delgado. I am glad he did not. The Braves don’t have the cash to buyout a high priced players contract from a team so they have to giveup talent,i,e the Tex trade.
Bob Horners Broken Wrist
September 4th, 2010
1:08 pm
Brava, please go take a seat on the short bus….3 All Stars — do I really need to give you a history lesson??? They aren’t neccessarily on the All Star team all in the same year but the point is the QUALITY OF THE PITCHER. Avery, Glavine, Maddox, Neagle, Smoltz, Hudson, JJ, Lowe and pretty soon Hanson and Minor.
If you really think Cox is that great, by all means enumerate all the great decisions he has made in the playoffs….I for the life of me can’t think of any. Bonehead moves? They are legion.
Joe
September 4th, 2010
1:12 pm
“He just couldn’t get in a groove, to locate his pitches. He just never got in a rhythm tonight.”
Saying he couldn’t locate was an understatement, he was all over the place. The guy has some good stuff it’s just he has no idea where to throw it. If he’d attack the strike zone some more he might actually be able to get someone out. Truthfully most of the pitches the Marlins swung at were balls; I’m not even sure he threw a pitch in the zone the whole night.
I don’t like seeing the Phillies this close (even 2 or 3 games back) but that being said I still have a lot of faith in this team. It’s not made up of superstars and I believe some of the moves that Wren has made have been bad but I still believe in them. We have 6 games left against the Phillies. All the Braves have to do is play good solid baseball same as they’ve been doing all year.
BTW although I think Lowe is overpaid I really respect the guy for going out there and pitching in pain and I hope that this fuels him and the rest of the guys to play harder. We all need to remember he came to us as the “BIG GAME PITCHER” maybe this bone chip will motivate him to pitch that way. GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe
September 4th, 2010
1:14 pm
PS I do agree with some of the comments to let Troy Glaus play first. He’s rested and he has something to prove LET HIM PLAY BOBBY!!!!!!
para brave
September 4th, 2010
1:15 pm
Earth to Bobby KK hasen’t been in his groove or been able to locate a pitch for the last two years. Time to send him down for good. And take McOut with him
Brava
September 4th, 2010
1:16 pm
Read your own statement, idiot Horner. I can read, so you get on the short-bus and take all the other Cox haters with you, please! Then ask the driver to careen off a cliff.
zenman
September 4th, 2010
1:37 pm
Being from the filthadelphia area, I feel I can report with some accuracy your town and many of your spots fans, lack any basic knowledge of any of your sports, and are without question are the most obnoxious fans of any city. The definition of a cheese steak~horse meat on a stale roll, covered with cheese wiz. It is as gross as many of your fans. It’s a dirty town with with only one good thing and that is WXPN. The best city in Pa. is the home of the Steelers. Leep your mouths shut, you are the city of loosers. Oh! How is your college football doing again this year? An other joke.
zenman
September 4th, 2010
1:43 pm
To all you Brave fans who praise them when they win and bitch after every loss. Shut the hell up.
Skeezix
September 4th, 2010
1:43 pm
1. Why in this whole wide world did Bobby start K.K. last night? There had to be a better option.
2. Derrek Lee has been no help to this offense.
3. Are the Braves batters tensing up from the heat the Phils are applying?
4. The Phillies definitely have momentum–Braves need to put the brakes on this slide right now.
Evo621
September 4th, 2010
1:59 pm
I’m the only person in my family tree to be born and raised in Philly and not Georgia and Louisiana. I made multiple trips down South every year of my life, and attended UGA undergrad. From that perspective, I make the following observations (disclaimer: I am a die-hard Philly pro sports fan) to give you a primer on Philly fans as this rivalry is here to stay for awhile:
- Atlanta pro sports fans are, overwhelmingly, terrible. Terrible in terms of passion, attendance, and dedication to their franchises. Reason? Atlanta is flooded with Northeast transplants that has diluted out any die-hards, making it Phoenix-South or Tampa-North. Philly maintains a core of born and bred people, and has exploded in a population rebirth from suburban flight the last 10 years, all of whom are brought up worshipping our pro teams.
- The only true Georgia sports fans are ones who follow GA college sports, and primarily just football. Philly has terrible college football; any college passion goes towards our fairly good college basketball. However, to understand the Philly fan, you must realize that we follow our pro sports teams (all four of them…e/c the train-wreck Sixers at the moment) with the ferocity of UGA football followers.
- Women: the Southern beauty contention is (unfortunately for all men) a myth. Having attended UGA, there is absolutely no shortage of gorgeous women, assisted by the skewed women to men ratio (at least when I was there). However, one stroll around Penn State or Villanova or even some PA state schools will make you realize that the Southern beauties line is just a myth, and go toe to toe with any Southern campus in terms of beauty. I did find Southern girls more approachable, but that’s the only edge I would objectively give them.
- Outside of college campuses, the hotness ratio is about the same, or dare I say, Southern non-coeds are on average fatter (the Southern diet catches up with all the women eventually).
Hope that clarifies things guys. Two solid contending teams, I only wish this rivalry contained two ravenous fan bases (a la the Eagles-Giants, Phillies-Mets when the Mets are actually good), and not just one.
jim
September 4th, 2010
1:59 pm
What other option did Cox have last night?
Martinez is in the minors, and going with a 4-man roation is almost as ridiculus as the 63 Phils running Short and Bunning out every other day. The young arms like Minor and Hanson need less work, not more if they are going to survive into and through the playoffs, and even Hudson is piling up innings after not pitching for about 2 years. By the time the KK/Lowe start comers up again, Martinez and KImbrel will be added to the pen, and then Cox will have other options.
jim
September 4th, 2010
2:21 pm
Exactly what bonehead errors did Cox make in the playoffs?
He did not get deeked at 2nd on Pendleton’s double or pushed off first base. He did not bobble the DP grounder before the Leyritz HR, or decide to throw the slider to Leyritz. He did not get interfered with by the RF ump to allow the Jeter foul fly to drop. He probably didn’t order a bunt to end the ‘92 series or hit the shot off Maddux’s leg in the Philly series. He didn’t get suspended for drugs before the playoffs.
In hindsight one can find fault with a few of lineup moves that did not work out like pitching a double-digit winner Liebrandt in the extra inning game with the twins, but they were not the glaring errors like leaving a tired Pedro in to pitch to Matsui, or not putting in a defensive replacement for Buckner. Managerial decisions get second guessed because they were studip (Pedro) or because they didn’t work out (Liebrandt). What stupid Cox decisions cost us WS titles? (Does Cox get credit for pinch hitting Cabrera?)
Somebody
September 4th, 2010
4:20 pm
All you idiot fairweather fans who can’t spell to save your life, do us all a favor. Get out of Atlanta and become Yankee fans. Good riddance!
Somebody
September 4th, 2010
4:23 pm
Oh and you bandwagon Philly fans better leave too, before I taze you.
Ill-a-delph
September 4th, 2010
4:38 pm
what a post by Evo621 – I love it man
I’m the only person in my family tree to be born and raised in Philly and not Georgia and Louisiana. I made multiple trips down South every year of my life, and attended UGA undergrad. From that perspective, I make the following observations (disclaimer: I am a die-hard Philly pro sports fan) to give you a primer on Philly fans as this rivalry is here to stay for awhile:
- Atlanta pro sports fans are, overwhelmingly, terrible. Terrible in terms of passion, attendance, and dedication to their franchises. Reason? Atlanta is flooded with Northeast transplants that has diluted out any die-hards, making it Phoenix-South or Tampa-North. Philly maintains a core of born and bred people, and has exploded in a population rebirth from suburban flight the last 10 years, all of whom are brought up worshipping our pro teams.
- The only true Georgia sports fans are ones who follow GA college sports, and primarily just football. Philly has terrible college football; any college passion goes towards our fairly good college basketball. However, to understand the Philly fan, you must realize that we follow our pro sports teams (all four of them…e/c the train-wreck Sixers at the moment) with the ferocity of UGA football followers.
- Women: the Southern beauty contention is (unfortunately for all men) a myth. Having attended UGA, there is absolutely no shortage of gorgeous women, assisted by the skewed women to men ratio (at least when I was there). However, one stroll around Penn State or Villanova or even some PA state schools will make you realize that the Southern beauties line is just a myth, and go toe to toe with any Southern campus in terms of beauty. I did find Southern girls more approachable, but that’s the only edge I would objectively give them.
- Outside of college campuses, the hotness ratio is about the same, or dare I say, Southern non-coeds are on average fatter (the Southern diet catches up with all the women eventually).
Hope that clarifies things guys. Two solid contending teams, I only wish this rivalry contained two ravenous fan bases (a la the Eagles-Giants, Phillies-Mets when the Mets are actually good), and not just one.
zenman
September 4th, 2010
4:53 pm
The only female beauty on the campus of Villanova most likely is from out of state. Penn state is not Philadelphia. Their female volleyball team does rule. Most Philadelphia residents are too dumb to move from the ass hole of the world. The Main Line is not Phia. Phila is bombing Move, a judge at football games, pissing on fans at football games, and much more. Oh, and we have west Phila, north. Phila, and more beautiful, safe, and thriving areas. Give me a break, the only nice areas are outside the city limits of Phila. St. Joes being the exception, and it is barely in the city. If you love Phila, you’re too stupid to know better.
57Braves
September 4th, 2010
5:19 pm
Win or lose, this will be an exciting month. It will be Bobby’s last September in a baseball uniform. Let’s all hope he gets to keep wearing it in October.
bubba
September 4th, 2010
5:38 pm
It’s all or nothing. Just use 4 starters :Hanson,Hudson,Jurrjens,Minor. Need a long reliever.
bubba
September 4th, 2010
5:41 pm
Moylan will just have to pitch better or just give the ball to Farnsworth and say screw it..
bubba
September 4th, 2010
5:43 pm
Move Lowe to bullpen as possibly a long reliever since he wants to pitch hurt. He’s only hurting the team.
tim scott
September 4th, 2010
5:43 pm
Thank God college football season started!!!! As ugly as it was the Gators won it was painful watching but not as painful as watching the Braves down the stretch. Ankiel can you a joke, KK should HAVE NEVER been signed, Milk Dud I think that says it all, and finally D Lowe another over priced waste way to go Frank you did great on your signings. Lets focus on next year get Freddie signed so he can begin putting his staff together that hopefully will not include TP,Chino,or our pitching coach whats his name
coachk
September 4th, 2010
5:50 pm
quit winning Braves fans, haven’t been to the post season in yrs and we will this yr in spite of Bobby. All we need is just one player to show little emotion and lets go take this thing
Merlin
September 4th, 2010
6:19 pm
I seem to remember a lot of people on the blog begging for KK to start instead of Lowe. I suspect there are none who would admit it now. Memories are short when convenient and long the rest of the time.
The Marlins have always been our nemesis much as the Astros have been to the Phillies. They play us tough and we have trouble living in that salad bowl of a stadium. In spite of all those folks defending his signing KK is and has been a disaster. Jorge Campillo could have done as much and cost less.
Lilly was claimed and pulled back by the Dodgers he isn’t available. That dream is a fantasy. Young Martinez certainly deserves the start for all the good work he did in long relief. . Whether he gets it or not is another story.
Bobby Cox is a Hall of Fame manager. You don;t become the 4th winningest manager of modern times without knowing how to manage. Longevity does not come without talent. His handling of pitchers has always been less than sterling I agree and I have criticized him for it in the past. But he’s a winner. If you don’t like his management style find a manager you like and support him. calling him names is childish and serve no purpose except mindless venting. Bobby was the GM that built the team that started the 14 year run. He left the front office to manage it and won. Even the Yankees with their bottomless pit of money haven’t matched that run. Before someone says any manager could have done that with all those all stars I;d suggest you check the record books. Lots of teams have had multiple all star pitchers, none did what Bobby has done,
Bobby will never satisfy those who want him to throw a player under the bus like Ozzie Guillen. Bobby respects and supports his players too much to do that. That’s why when players are asked which manager they want to play for Bobby’s name is first on the list. In private I am sure – from interviews and articles by former Braves – that he tells them exactly how he feels. In public he has their back. His comment about KK is a rough as he gets. Good managers in every industry know that’s the right way to lead.
KK pitched badly and our bats did not come through with RISP. We have to correct that if we are to continue our pennant run. Everyone in a Braves uniform is doing their absolute best to do that. No one is out there dogging it and trying to lose. The Padres and Giants have similar issues as do the Phillies periodically or they wouldn’t be in 2nd place now. The Reds are the only team hitting consistently with RISP. If we find our bats we will win this division and in the playoffs. If we don;t we won’t.
Mike
September 4th, 2010
6:36 pm
Hey all you Phillie fans, granted you have a good team probably better then ours. Remember though, the so called better team doesn’t always win. We can attest to that. Don’t predict a division tiltle, pennant or WS win just yet,
robdawg08
September 4th, 2010
8:59 pm
How much will you decide that you want to contribute Kawacan’tpitchme ? Very little obviously…
rekingball
September 4th, 2010
11:08 pm
EVo621…….If you think Pa. women are prettier, then you must be a horse lover.
BRAVES FAN 1966
September 4th, 2010
11:51 pm
wow hwere should i start ? oh yeah here we go! peter and the curse of david justice[wtf kind of a name is that? david justice had more class]you sound like COMPLETE IDOTS [CAPS ARE FOR YOU CURSE]you sound like a couple of band wagon jumpers so do that jump on a wagon any wagon and ride the hell on out of here
BRAVES FAN 1966
September 4th, 2010
11:55 pm
well said reking ball