Stat of the Day: Hanson and the long ball

Tommy Hanson gave up a career-high four home runs in a 7-1 loss to the Marlins on Friday, one more than he allowed in his major league debut against the Brewers last June.  It was also a season-high in home runs allowed in a Braves game this season.

Hanson had gone 49 2/3 innings without allowing a home run when Cameron Maybin lead off the game with a solo shot to the left field seats. Logan Morrison followed six pitches later with a shot to center. The Marlins went back-to-back again in the sixth inning, on solo home runs by Dan Uggla and Gaby Sanchez.

Until Friday, the last home run Hanson had allowed came on July 16 against the Brewers. You have to go back farther than that to find his last win. Hanson has not won a game since July 3 against the Marlins. He’s on a career-high five-game losing streak over 10 starts. Until his past two starts he could blame a lack of run support, but he’s given up 12 runs in his past 10 innings against the Marlins and Cubs, both losses.

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charles

August 27th, 2010
11:41 pm

Fredi Gonzalez

August 27th, 2010
11:46 pm

There better be Domestic Violence Prevention Officers IF the Braves choke this one away.

Small Market Beatdown

August 27th, 2010
11:49 pm

You can’t lose to Chris Volstad and a team starting Davis, Bonafacio, Tracy and 2 rookies.

Jo-Bu

August 28th, 2010
1:00 am

I believe what we are seeing with Tommy Hanson is a thrower that is learning to be a pitcher at the MLB level. Neither Maddux, Glavin, or Smoltz came up from the Minors with Cy Young stuff out of the gate. In fact, each of them had their fair share of horrible outings. It took each of them a few seasons to learn the fine art of pitching and making realtime adjustments to hitters. But it all starts with command and Tommy left of few cement mixers that were supposed to be breaking pitching up in the zone or even right down the middle. But he’ll work it out just like other Braves greats have in the past.

Largo

August 28th, 2010
1:16 am

But Hanson is getting worse not better.

The Batting Cage

August 28th, 2010
2:02 am

Not An Atlanta Beat Writer or Columnist

August 28th, 2010
2:10 am

Jo-Bu, You do realize that “all those Braves greats in the past” have combined to win 1 World Series Championship in the last 52 years. Of course that is one more World Championship than the Hawks, Falcons and Flames/Thrashers have won COMBINED since 1966.

The only city with a more pliable, gullible and butt kissing group of fans is Chicago. NO!!! I’m wrong about that because Chicago has won championships in football, basketball and hockey. I’m talking about CHAMPIONSHIPS–those things where you win the LAST game and are given a HUGE trophy—and not pennants.

Bruce Mac

August 28th, 2010
2:16 am

Thanks Mark Bradley, how is that prediction working out? Braves do nothing that a winning team should do and anyone other than an idiot AJC writer would think this team is good.

paul simon

August 28th, 2010
3:11 am

slip sliden away

charles

August 28th, 2010
6:48 am

is there any way the braves could renege on the lee, ankiel,farnsworth and gonzales trades?

Henry

August 28th, 2010
8:10 am

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Henry

August 28th, 2010
8:17 am

We’ve won 2 of 7 with D Lee at first . He is 4 for 32 why did we give 4 players for someone hitting 247 with 8 home runs . We had a 240 hitter with double Rbis and homers of Lee and Freddy Freeman in minors . If you are hitting 247 on a last place team , you are going to do worse on a contender . He has 5 Rbis with us but all eth big leads . This is worst slump since early in season.

THE CURSE OF DAVID JUSTICE LIVES IN THE ATL

August 28th, 2010
8:22 am

BRING BACK JOE TORRE ONCE THE SUCKER BOBBY COX IS GONE!

P.S. HOW IS THAT DERRICK LEE TRADE WORKING OUT? YOU REDNECKS WANT NICE BLACK GUYS ON THE TEAM,REMEMBER DAVID JUSTICE WAS’NT A NICE GUY,YOU REDNECKS RANNED HOW OUTTA TOWN!

YOU HICKS SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT IN MANNY!

LONG LIVE THE CURSE OF DAVID JUSTICE! THE BRAVES WONT WIN THE DIVISION

THE CURSE OF DAVID JUSTICE LIVES IN THE ATL

August 28th, 2010
8:23 am

P.S. SEND FRANK WREN AND DERRICK LEE BACK TO THE MARLINS

beachcomber

August 28th, 2010
8:28 am

We have a guy still connected to the Braves who threw the best slider in baseball for more than a decade. I know Smoltz worked with Hansen a time or two before. Maybe another session or two?

mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache

August 28th, 2010
8:36 am

I was at the game, pethetic. the play envolving henskie missing the ball agianst the sky and lights, i know because i was sitting behind him. It appeared that he didnt know that the ball was hit to him. Gonzalas saw that he didnt know and pointed up to the sky for henskie to try to get a bead on the ball, but it was too late. Hinskie ran foward and the ball landed behind him. Then to make things worse the runner went for third. Henskie erratically picked up the ball and blindly threw it to gonzales, while gonzales’s back was to him. Then gonzales finds the ball and makes a bad throw (6 feet away) to prado. It looked really bad. I know things can happen in a game, but these guys are doing this for a living. Tommy was also pitching batting practice did not help out either. I know some of you think that the sky is not falling, but this game was bad. No hitting, no piching and no defense. Also, no one was running up the count on the opposening picther. Who ever thinks that ankeil was a bad pick? He is extremely athletic and covers the field well. He might need a little help on the hitting. If we only had a batting coach. We are in trouble. Fundamentals are the bread and butter of baseball and that was lacking of this game in every aspect. SOS

Navigator

August 28th, 2010
8:43 am

Hanson has lost the control he had last year, spotting the ball. He also pitches with the ball exposed, wide open, and he changes his delivery when he changes the pitch. After a while, the other team starts anticipating what he throws watching his delivery. They are sitting an certain pitches and waiting for him to throw them.

JT

August 28th, 2010
9:14 am

Stat of the Day: Braves bat .176 with no walks against a pitcher with an OBA of .270 that allows more than three walks a game.
Pitchers occasionally have a bad game. With the exception of Hanson’s last two outings, let’s hope that the stars aligned and everyone had them at the same time. Next time through the rotation will be telling.
Go to Major League stats and compare Glaus and Lee. Can anyone explain to me how Lee was supposed to be an upgrade? Their stats are virtually identical except Glaus has nine more RBIs in forty nine less plate appearences!
Finally, Bobby please let Wagner get more work. After sitting for so long, he threw 22 pitches last night; 13 balls, 9 strikes. Not what you expect from a closer. Let’s hope it was just rust.

concerned

August 28th, 2010
9:20 am

I think it is called pitching “meatballs”. Mighty tasty pitches for the fish to hit.

mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache

August 28th, 2010
9:29 am

@JT, I will take a stab at it. If you look at the glaus situation. He is at AAA getting “healthy” and playing third base. So the thought is if and when he comes back, healthy and all, he will have a second storm of offensive explosion. When this happens, Dlee will have one as well. Glaus and Dlee might as well do the wounder twins power fist punch. It seems scary, since you have some bad managing skills(cox,penelton:no hitting nor fundametals of baseball. BTW, am i on the falcons blog???).

Burdell

August 28th, 2010
9:43 am

Is that FALCONSORRY posting at 8:22? Talk about a blast from the past….

mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache

August 28th, 2010
10:10 am

anybody alive?

DoninToccoa

August 28th, 2010
10:16 am

Most of youse try to make baseball some kind of a science. It ain’t. So, just watch it and have fun…it’ll all work out in the end. Braves will probably finish where their talent has them. 2nd or 3rd and we’ll all have a big party for Mr. Cox and yell him “good by!”

ReddJonn68

August 28th, 2010
10:26 am

Its amazing how many people was calling for Hanson to be traded last night. Good stat about the fact the young man hadn’t given up a homer since July 16th before those last night. Bobby should have seen what everyone else watching the game saw, that Tommy was way to high in the strike zone at the beginning of the game.

Peter

August 28th, 2010
10:27 am

Frank Wren has to go……. I can only imagine his pick for next years manager. With his new acquisitions being silly….can you imagine what the next manager will be like ?

Bro

August 28th, 2010
10:36 am

THEY SENT THE WRONG PITCHER DOWN. HANSEN PITCHER AT 96-100 MPH PRIOR TO BEING CALLED UP. HIS SPEED IS WAY DOWN AND HIS INTENSITY IS EXTREMELY LOW. HE HAS NO EMOTION AND APPEARS NOT TO GIVE A DARN. WHY DID THE ‘ great cox” LEAVE HIM IN UNTIL WE GOT SO FAR BEHIND THAT THERE WAS NO CATCHING-UP. MINOR HAS PITCHED WAY BETTER THAN EITHER HANSEN OR LOWE AND YET HE IS SENT DOWN. MAKES NO SENSE DOES IT. COS HAS LOST HIS DAMN MIND. THEY POWERS TO BE WILL GIVE THIS SEASON AWAY AND HAVE A MESS OF EXCUSES. YOU CAN NOT FIX STUPID.

Preston Hannatized

August 28th, 2010
10:37 am

State of the Day:
Derrek Lee’s first 7 games as a Brave (.143, 4-28, 0 HR, 5 RBI)
Troy Glaus’ last 7 games as a Brave (.206, 6-29, 2 HR, 7 RBI)
I’m just saying.

StrikeOut

August 28th, 2010
10:40 am

Q. What’s wrong with the Braves?
A. They suck! Little League playoffs are a LOT more fun to watch. The Braves coaches have gotten fat and lazy. Just look at them in the dugout, half asleep, picking their teeth, and not in the game. Somebody wake ol’ Bobby up! The Braves on the field look the same……..

Sons of Rick Matula

August 28th, 2010
10:43 am

Derrek Lee fits into the Braves mold too well. Placid to the point of lifeless. Schuerholz, Wren and Bobby have never liked “fiery” guys. Apologies for putting Schuerholz and Wren in the same sentence. The former knew what he was doing. Wren is flailing and failing.

Wally Murgey

August 28th, 2010
10:46 am

Minor strikes out 12 and gets sent down to make room for bullpen help? Isn’t that why Farnsy was brought in? Oh, that’s right, he stinks and Bobby wants no part of him.

Preston Hannatized

August 28th, 2010
10:48 am

I agree that Hanson’s delivery is funky and he doesn’t seem to be hiding the ball. Not that he’s awful or anything but he and Lowe (again!) ve been disappointments. Hanson, I think, has also hit the wall. Lot of innings.

Avid Hahira/Valdosta Braves Fan

August 28th, 2010
11:02 am

The only way to get upper managements attention is to not buy tickets. Stay away from the park.

bill

August 28th, 2010
11:03 am

If the playoffs started today, I’d have to go with Hudson, JJ & Minor in a three man rotation. They’re clearly the best the Braves have right now. Lowe & Hanson are just struggling TOO much!

richard

August 28th, 2010
11:17 am

put Brooks on third, Gonzo on SS,Omar on Second, Martin on first
Matt in left,Rick in center, Jason in right.
We are in need of a firey team

mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache

August 28th, 2010
11:32 am

I think we should re-name the team: the Georgia Cadaver’s or the Atlanta Zombies. Our theme music could be thriller.

JT

August 28th, 2010
11:34 am

I don’t know why so many of you have such a negative view of Bobby Cox,(Hall of Famer ? really?). I think Bobby is a terrific (clueless) Manager. Just look at the great job he does managing his starting pitchers (leaves them in way too long until game is out of reach), the thoughtfulness he puts in to his line ups (stars never sit or get moved in the batting order , hot hitters stay on bench) and the brilliant management of the bullpen (use a reliever as much as you can until his arm goes dead, usually around the first of September). Let’s not forget the wonderfully positive comments he has for everyone after every game (if he had been on the Titanic, I am sure he would have had kind words for the lookouts that failed to spot the iceburg; not to mention that “I don’t know what everyone is complaining about, the water doesn’t seem too cold to me.”). Hang in there Bobby. From your perspective, I know you can see that light at the end of the tunnel.

2010

August 28th, 2010
11:35 am

We scored 1 run. How is that Hanson’s fault. He had abad outing yesterday but that was a fluke. He has pitched well, jut no run support. Maybe he is going out there thinking he has to pitch perfectly and that is his problem. He is not the problem with this team now.

mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache

August 28th, 2010
11:39 am

@jt, if you lived for 500yrs like mosses, im sure you could have 2500 wins

Merlin

August 28th, 2010
11:42 am

Peter – Amen brother Amen. I wrote why Wren has been hopeless and his trade/signing decisions mediocre to poor for two years and was bombarded with “Wren’s a genius” which BTW he patently is not. The preseason team roster was noticeably missing right handed power and a real 1st baseman. Yes I know Troy carried us for 5 weeks and I do appreciate that. His play at first was mediocre and cost us runs too, none of the folks extolling his virtues mention that. The idea of his mobility limited play at 3rd is scary to say the least. In the outfield however is where we actually suffer the most. Ankiel is a great fielder but a 4th outfielder as are Melky and Matty. Nate was just an awful mistake. He’s Ankiel without the arm. Eric Hinske is a great guy, fill in 1st baseman, 5th or 6th outfielder who hits best when he plays once a week. There were real outfielders available from the same tell that gave us Rick and Farnsworth, Wren didn’t go get them. Speaking of Farnsworth who in their right mind trades for a guy who has a career record of choking under pressure? He’s not even an 6th inning guy, he’s Jesse Chavez with a more expensive contract. Again, other relievers were available but Wren ignored them. Losing Blanco for Ankiel (who has the better arm but hits 40 points lower at least) was a disgrace. The much maligned on here Bobby Cox took Wren’s wrecks and put this team in first place largely through superior pitching and a good dose of luck. The current lineup however lacks passion and an on the field leader to encourage them to give that little bit more. Without that I fear we will not go far in the post season. Wren’s consistently bad decisions ought to be enough to get him fired. Maybe Baltimore will take him back in exchange for say a box of batting practice baseballs and a bent catcher’s mask.

JT

August 28th, 2010
11:44 am

My point, exactly. Even a gerbil could win with three Hall of Fame pitchers.

Bill Dent

August 28th, 2010
11:44 am

I’ve said all along that this team is held together by bailing wire and duct tape. It is like an old tractor that is worn out and the owner keeps trying to fix it by adding more wire and tape. They should give it up and start over with young ” hustling players” and get real.They cannot and will not win with what they are using. I am tired of seeing them continue to bring in over the hill retreads.

mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache

August 28th, 2010
11:51 am

@ 2010, if the score was 3 to 1, then yes, the braves are not producing runs. Since it appeared to be the allstar homerun durby, then no. It is up to the pitcher to give the team a chance to win.

mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache

August 28th, 2010
11:56 am

the future is looking bad. look at the trades and how the feeling of the braves are not concerned. the manny trade would be icing on the cake for dessert. if you want names, i think we can bring back hank aaron.

mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache

August 28th, 2010
11:57 am

JT dont give wren the idea. He might want to contact the gerbil……

Bill Dent

August 28th, 2010
12:00 pm

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Merlin

August 28th, 2010
12:05 pm

JT August 28th, 2010
11:44 am
Even a gerbil could win with three Hall of Fame pitchers.

Well not exactly. The team behind them has to score runs and the lineups, pitching changes have to be made to create and preserve those runs. Injuries have to be managed as do personalities and all this within the budget of ownership. I suspect an argument could be made for that Lincecum, Cain and Zito are close to Smoltz Glavine and Avery but the Giants have not been winners though they may sneak into the wild card this year.
Bobby did a lot of things well and many not so well – bullpen notably – but he’s been and remains a winner, taking this year’s team of castoffs and low budget acquisitions to first place and keeping them there without much power or consistent hitting with RISP.

Bill Dent

August 28th, 2010
12:05 pm

If you will not print my comments stop asking for them!!!

TOMY FOURNIER

August 28th, 2010
12:17 pm

WHAT A TRASH!!!!

mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache

August 28th, 2010
12:34 pm

DoninToccoa

August 28th, 2010
10:16 am
Most of youse try to make baseball some kind of a science. It ain’t. So, just watch it and have fun…it’ll all work out in the end. Braves will probably finish where their talent has them. 2nd or 3rd and we’ll all have a big party for Mr. Cox and yell him “good by!”

@ DoninToccoa, in fact baseball is all about numbers and odds, bobby sometimes will refer to the “numbers”, also why do you think teams put a “shift” on certian players at the plate? Why do you think there a pitching match ups (even when it is lefty vs righty, the picther can still have the advantage.) so numbers, numbers, numbers. this still does not take into consideration of the luck factor ( bucky dent) or health (chipper jones).

zenman

August 28th, 2010
12:40 pm

Wow, it is easy to bring out the worse in people. Some of you make the most assine statements. Please leave politics out of the discussion, even if you think you know what you are talking about. Bottom line, you do not know squat. I have been a Braves fan since 1953, as such I have seen more ups and downs than any of you. Of course I get upset as you do, but I try to express my self in a somewhat intelligent manner. I ask you to do the same. It would add rather than detract from the comments.

Largo

August 28th, 2010
12:56 pm

I read the other day that Kotchman went 275 games without an error. He didn’t hit much but sure could go get ‘em at first base.

Reason

August 28th, 2010
1:10 pm

Hansen, makes an excellent batting practice pitcher, a better pitcher for the opposition, you couldn’t find.
The new Braves players are really an excellent choice to help the Braves finish in second or third place.
What chemistry they had is leaking out.
The management mined is not in the game, successes is something they can’t cope with, for the last 5 years they have manage to screw everything up.
They don’t seem to know the real game.
The general manager by adding a bunch of hurt old players, has not improve the team one single bit, these players may once in a while may help the team, or 1 out of 50 times may be productive.
They have to get rid of Pendleton, he’s not the main problem, but a major part, anyway trade him for a baseball, or a broken bat.

ijudgenot

August 28th, 2010
2:33 pm

With Hanson, JJ, Minor, Delgado, Teheran and a healthy Medlin the Braves have a solid future pitching stable. Hudson looks as though he will be able to anchor the staff for the next 2 years until one of the above is ready to be the ace. However, one or more of the above will be traded to get another outfielder and/or 3rd baseman. Between Hanson and JJ, I believe JJ will be the more reliable in the long run. Hanson has good stuff when he is on, but has a Kerry Woods, Mark Prior deliberate delivery that seems to put more stress on the pitching arm. He very well may have some arm problems in the near future. I like Minor’s attitude on the mound. He seems to know what it takes to set up and get hitter out. He looks like a stronger and much younger Glavine.

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