Wagner says he’s no Favre — he’s retiring. Period.

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Trey - 10

August 21st, 2010
5:42 pm

I Love Derrek Lee. With Nick I love to make fun of him when he calls a ball game and the Braves come back, but other than that I just read and laugh at his posts, same with Mitchell. The Phillies fans are just so easy, but they deserve it, since they do the same. If a Philly fan comes on just to talk the game, that is fine with me and I can be civil with them, as well.

David O'Brien

August 21st, 2010
5:42 pm

Heyward hit that ball hard, but wind’s blowing in pretty stiff from RF

Jeff

August 21st, 2010
5:43 pm

Bravo To da Braves yet again squander 1st and 2nd in the first inning and do nothing and then the cubs who suck score 2 then 2 innings later they score 3 more. Bravo to a pathetic lineup and offense. Hello Gorzelanny was a Pirate and not an Ace. there is no way we should be losing whatsoever to him.. Hanson once again gives up 5 and no run support.. The Lee Trade hasnt helped at all so far. 0-6

hootdaddy -22

August 21st, 2010
5:43 pm

When is the last time the Braves had a 3 run lead or more before the fourth inning?

Nick 3.0

August 21st, 2010
5:43 pm

I Love Derrek Lee – are we watching the same game?

CSpin

August 21st, 2010
5:43 pm

Mitchell, you’re sick. Get out

ccrider

August 21st, 2010
5:43 pm

Katherine: The key word in your reply is YET. The offense and defense is poor and the pressure is constantly put on the pitching staff. I am impressed as h+ll with what this team has done this year, but the talent level of the position players is poor at best, Diaz, Cabrera, Ankiel, Ross are all decent bench players, Heyward still plays like a rookie(the injury has hurt his production as well),Lee has had his worst season in 10 years, Gonzalez is just an average player both on offense and defense. We get consistent production from 3 players, Infante, Prado and McCann.
The Phillies will move past us and we will be left in the dust of other wild card contenders, unless the poor defense greatly improves and the hitting becomes more consistent throughout the game.

Couch Tater

August 21st, 2010
5:43 pm

“I don’t need it anymore. I’m tired of the expectations, tired of the criticism, tired of people who never played trying to tell me how to play.” – Billy Wagner

Good blog, Dave.

MIBraveeeeesFan

August 21st, 2010
5:44 pm

Nova Scotia Steve

August 21st, 2010
5:44 pm

We need a hit here in the worst way….

Nick 3.0

August 21st, 2010
5:44 pm

DOB – It’s always an excuse.

Sopheeeee

August 21st, 2010
5:44 pm

Marteeeeeeeen.

Katherine

August 21st, 2010
5:44 pm

come on lee…..show us what you got!

N8

August 21st, 2010
5:44 pm

“I would have preferred LaRoche to Lee.”

Until he struck out the first time. Then you would have typed “ballgame” and demanded that Wren release him.

UKUGA

August 21st, 2010
5:44 pm

I don’t know if you can instantly make Venters the closer. The guy comes out of nowhere and pitches like this for one year.

Next year, who knows? Maybe he’s the next Will Ohman or Chris Hammond.

I hope he’s great, but I’d like to see the Braves have someone else identified as the closer (a right hander perhaps), and hope that Venters can begin to share the responsibility some.

Get him ready to take over in case of injury, and then perhaps be ready to close in 2012.

Just my very limited opinion.

Nick 3.0

August 21st, 2010
5:44 pm

Lee up, 3 outs.

I Love Derrek Lee (formerly I Hate Liberty Media/I Hate Troy Glaus)

August 21st, 2010
5:45 pm

“I Love Derrek Lee – are we watching the same game?”

Yeah, I know it may seem overly optimistic. If we weren’t playing the Cubs in late August, I wouldn’t like our chances. The Cubs have mailed it in, and a run here and a run there and we’re right back in it.

UKUGA

August 21st, 2010
5:45 pm

Disappointing inning.

CSpin

August 21st, 2010
5:45 pm

Is it logical to think that the Cubs just know how to pitch to Lee, that’s why he’s sucking thus far?

Jeff

August 21st, 2010
5:45 pm

it would be nice for this team to score first once in a while.. 0-7 now.. bravo to the lee Trade..

Nick 3.0

August 21st, 2010
5:45 pm

0-7, what a piece of sh*t. Get Glaus back.

Katherine

August 21st, 2010
5:45 pm

LuisG Win-it-4-Bobby-n-Chipper!

August 21st, 2010
5:45 pm

still waiting for Lee’s first hit.

Dan-82ndAirborne

August 21st, 2010
5:46 pm

Big Tom Callahan – Hanson doesn’t have an out pitch. That’s why his BAA with the count 0-2 is .233 while Tim Hudson’s BAA with an 0-2 count is .057.

Jeff

August 21st, 2010
5:46 pm

Lee has left 5 on so far thru 4 and 1/2 ..

fastasballs

August 21st, 2010
5:46 pm

LOL that’s classic. Nick pining for Glaus to come back.

Nova Scotia Steve

August 21st, 2010
5:46 pm

Jim Bowden – Brad Lidge just told us on Fox Sports Radio when this Phillie team is healthy it is better man for man than the last 2 teams that were in WS

JC Bravo

August 21st, 2010
5:46 pm

I can see letting Tomy hit there. He had a strong fourth inning and you don’t want to waste Conrad or Hinske yet. Anybody else you send up is almost as likely to make an out as Hanson.

I Love Derrek Lee (formerly I Hate Liberty Media/I Hate Troy Glaus)

August 21st, 2010
5:46 pm

“I Love Derrek Lee. With Nick I love to make fun of him when he calls a ball game and the Braves come back, but other than that I just read and laugh at his posts, same with Mitchell. The Phillies fans are just so easy, but they deserve it, since they do the same. If a Philly fan comes on just to talk the game, that is fine with me and I can be civil with them, as well.”

Trey, I responded to your post, but I think it’s on the previous page. I understand your perspective. I can respect that.

UKUGA

August 21st, 2010
5:46 pm

Positive note:

Heyward is hitting again (at least for the day).

cabravesfan

August 21st, 2010
5:46 pm

“Dear Lord, please give me the strength to not slap an idiot today……Amen” ;)

Nick 3.0

August 21st, 2010
5:47 pm

CSpin – Apparently every team in the NL knows how to pitch to Lee this season, he’s been horrible all year. No excuses.

hootdaddy -22

August 21st, 2010
5:47 pm

New Troy Glaus looks same as old Troy. Couldn’t bring up Freeman for free?

Chop It Up All-Star

August 21st, 2010
5:48 pm

Can we bring in Farnsworth to plunk this guy? He’s been killing the Braves this series.

Nova Scotia Steve

August 21st, 2010
5:48 pm

ryan

August 21st, 2010
5:48 pm

On second thought Cubs pitchers seen how Lee hit all year they should know how to get him out.

CSpin

August 21st, 2010
5:48 pm

I think a lot of it Lee’s lost bat speed

UKUGA

August 21st, 2010
5:48 pm

I’m tired of Ramirez.

2 errors on Prado.

Sopheeeee

August 21st, 2010
5:49 pm

No e’s for that.

Nick 3.0

August 21st, 2010
5:49 pm

Honestly, why are we execting much from Lee. He has less RBI and same amount of HR as Glaus.

Jeff

August 21st, 2010
5:49 pm

how about just put Ramirez on for goodness sake. and MOVE PRADO BACK TO 2ND PLEASE. PRADO IS STINKIN UP THE JOINT at 3rd..

MIBraveeeeesFan

August 21st, 2010
5:49 pm

CSpin

August 21st, 2010
5:45 pm
Is it logical to think that the Cubs just know how to pitch to Lee, that’s why he’s sucking thus far?

Actually, contrary to what Nick whatever version he is today would have you believe, St. Louis sure doesn’t know how to pitch him, and they’re coming up on the schedule.

I Love Derrek Lee (formerly I Hate Liberty Media/I Hate Troy Glaus)

August 21st, 2010
5:50 pm

O’Flaherty warming up.

cabravesfan

August 21st, 2010
5:50 pm

Honestly, why are we execting much from Lee

I think the same question can be asked about Freddie…

Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson

August 21st, 2010
5:51 pm

Tim McCarver has ruined more baseball games for me than any 15 or 20 of my ex-girlfriends combined.

I Love Derrek Lee (formerly I Hate Liberty Media/I Hate Troy Glaus)

August 21st, 2010
5:51 pm

JC Bravo

August 21st, 2010
5:51 pm

Bad call in our favor…

A-Ville Ranger

August 21st, 2010
5:52 pm

As good as Wagner has been, he’s blown 8 save opportunities. Also if he has a good postseason it’ll be the first time. He’s been just AWFUL in playoffs.

Now for Hanson, the kid has to learn to limit damage. That’s the one area he shows his age.

David O'Brien

August 21st, 2010
5:52 pm

Braves caught break there — runner was safe at 1B

Chop It Up All-Star

August 21st, 2010
5:52 pm

Everytime I hear Tim McCarver all I can think about is Deion Sanders splashing him in the face with champagne and McCarver calling a Deion a class act.

CSpin

August 21st, 2010
5:52 pm

Finally, a DP for tommy (though a wee bit close call)

Braves One

August 21st, 2010
5:52 pm

Couch Tater

August 21st, 2010
5:43 pm

“I don’t need it anymore. I’m tired of the expectations, tired of the criticism, tired of people who never played trying to tell me how to play.” – Billy Wagner

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After making over $93,000,000 in just 17 years, its pretty simple to walk away and say you don’t “need it anymore” for whatever reason…I do like the idea he is not backing away from his retirement and is putting his family first.

Nova Scotia Steve

August 21st, 2010
5:52 pm

Jay Dubu

August 21st, 2010
5:52 pm

What’s the over/under that McCarver will actually shut up for longer than 10 seconds?

I Love Derrek Lee (formerly I Hate Liberty Media/I Hate Troy Glaus)

August 21st, 2010
5:53 pm

Geez. More bad defense.

Sopheeeee

August 21st, 2010
5:53 pm

Holy geez. Twilight zone.

CSpin

August 21st, 2010
5:53 pm

E2…..this ain’t gonna cut it for the playoffs folks. I’m worried. This will lead to a very early exit.

Chop It Up All-Star

August 21st, 2010
5:53 pm

Are the Braves trying to break the record for most errors in a season and still be a division winner?

Jeff

August 21st, 2010
5:53 pm

JUST STINKIN Pathetic.. Hello Rosss eat the ball u moron. Way to just give this game away Braves. lookin like a last place team called the Pirates.

Brava

August 21st, 2010
5:53 pm

I cannot imagine the gamut of emotions Derrek Lee has experienced the past few days and the toll it’s taken on him. It’s unfortunate that his transition to the Braves happened this way and I’m not at all surprised at his performance. He’ll settle down, it just may be away from Wrigley Field.

N Nineeeeeeeeeee

August 21st, 2010
5:54 pm

Troy Glaus would haven caught that Ross error ^.^

JC Bravo

August 21st, 2010
5:54 pm

I think everyone needs to lay off Lee a bit. He’s barrelled a few balls in the two games, just hasn’t had much luck. Should have at least a couple of hits already.

CSpin

August 21st, 2010
5:54 pm

Ryan Howard is back. oy

Gman

August 21st, 2010
5:55 pm

Any time D Lee…….

Keep hearing how great this guy is. 2 in scoring position w 2 out and down by 5 would’ve been a good time to get his first hit as a Brave.

Funny how these guys can’t hit at all once they but on the Atlanta uni. How the he11 did A Gonz hit 17 HRs before becoming a Brave?

I Love Derrek Lee (formerly I Hate Liberty Media/I Hate Troy Glaus)

August 21st, 2010
5:55 pm

Please, no more Troy Glaus.

cabravesfan

August 21st, 2010
5:55 pm

Just for the record, Wags has 7 blown saves this year, not 8 ;)

MIBraveeeeesFan

August 21st, 2010
5:55 pm

So an hour ago the Braves had 92 errors. What the heck are we up to now? Right after pitching, is supposed to come defense, right? What this team’s record might be (I know they’re in 1st and love that fact!) with this pitching staff if they at least played better defense, with the offense just as it is!

Toots

August 21st, 2010
5:56 pm

Bobby just read Derrick’s contract. it appears he has to go 0fer 7 (for each year with Cubs)… then He is officially a Brave…… Will the real Derrick Lee come to the plate….

Braves One

August 21st, 2010
5:56 pm

In the last week, I think we have thrown the ball down the first base line more than we have hit it down the right field line.

N Nineeeeeeeeeee

August 21st, 2010
5:57 pm

WHeRE IS tROY gLAUS??

FiRe wRren. This sEAson is DonE.

CSpin

August 21st, 2010
5:57 pm

MIBraveeeeesFan

August 21st, 2010
5:57 pm

That sounded like a great catch on the radio! :)

Sopheeeee

August 21st, 2010
5:57 pm

I Love Derrek Lee (formerly I Hate Liberty Media/I Hate Troy Glaus)

August 21st, 2010
5:57 pm

Got out of trouble in that inning. Let’s go, bats.

CSpin

August 21st, 2010
5:58 pm

Did McCarver just ruin that great play w/ a Harry Carey impersonation?!

fastasballs

August 21st, 2010
5:58 pm

Maybe try waiting a little longer than 1 1/2 games before judging a trade? Ever think the guy is a bit nervous playing in Chicago in a different uni? Hey these guys are not human, are they? 0-7 in his first two games means he’s going fail the next 100 times as well, right?

The problem with most of the kneee jerk posters around here is they expect instant gratification of every aspect of the game. Baseball is not very enjoyable for those that hang on every pitch or every game. It’s a marathon. 1000’s of things go right & 1000’s of things go wrong every season & that includes whichever teams make the playoffs & the eventual World Series champion.

I don’t know what’s wrong with some of you nitwits who expect success every AB, pitch or game. Maybe you never played the game or understand it. Maybe it’s how you were raised, who knows.

Braves One

August 21st, 2010
5:59 pm

MIBraveeeeesFan

August 21st, 2010
5:57 pm

That sounded like a great catch on the radio!

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In legal terms it’s called “self defense”….

JC Bravo

August 21st, 2010
5:59 pm

OK now, score six this inning and Hanson is in line for the W.

Nick 3.0

August 21st, 2010
6:00 pm

Diaz, Gonzalez, Ross is about as easy of a 1-2-3 inning as they come.

Nick 3.0

August 21st, 2010
6:00 pm

Diaz won’t score.

Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson

August 21st, 2010
6:00 pm

I just filled my TV full of lead, yet McCarver keeps going. He’s a zombie.

MIBraveeeeesFan

August 21st, 2010
6:00 pm

Braves One

August 21st, 2010
5:59 pm
MIBraveeeeesFan

August 21st, 2010
5:57 pm

That sounded like a great catch on the radio!

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In legal terms it’s called “self defense”….

:)

Sopheeeee

August 21st, 2010
6:00 pm

Nova Scotia Steve

August 21st, 2010
6:01 pm

Tim McCarver – Mike Diaz – ????

bravesgrl4lifeeeee ♥ Heap Prado JHey Venters Wagner Huddy Hanson ♥

August 21st, 2010
6:01 pm

MattE!!! Now can we please, please,, please capitalize on this one?!

Brava

August 21st, 2010
6:01 pm

What’s happening? My DTV went out. Storming here in Acworth.

Chop It Up All-Star

August 21st, 2010
6:02 pm

Alright, let’s take the ninth inning comeback approach here in the sixth and put a crooked number up on the board,.

JC Bravo

August 21st, 2010
6:02 pm

That’s cause you didn’t shoot the speakers Bat…

hootdaddy -22

August 21st, 2010
6:02 pm

Will people stop listening to TP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This clown could have ruined Tony Gwynn, Ichiro, and A-Rod in one week. Ordonez for the Tigers would be hitting .210 on this team.

bravesgrl4lifeeeee

August 21st, 2010
6:02 pm

McCarver and Co, please STFU!

Sopheeeee

August 21st, 2010
6:03 pm

Brava, MattE started the inning with a double down the 3B line.

MIBraveeeeesFan

August 21st, 2010
6:03 pm

UKUGA

August 21st, 2010
6:03 pm

Come back for Tommy!

I Love Derrek Lee (formerly I Hate Liberty Media/I Hate Troy Glaus)

August 21st, 2010
6:03 pm

Diaz with a leadoff double. Gonzalez doubled to score Diaz.

Chop It Up All-Star

August 21st, 2010
6:03 pm

That’s one…

CSpin

August 21st, 2010
6:03 pm

We made it on the board!

bravesgrl4lifeeeee

August 21st, 2010
6:03 pm

WE GET A RUN!!!!!!

cabravesfan

August 21st, 2010
6:03 pm

Nick wrong AGAIN :)

Nice job New Guy!

CSpin

August 21st, 2010
6:03 pm

We landed on the moon!

Sopheeeee

August 21st, 2010
6:03 pm

Yay, new guy!

Brava, Gonzalez hot another double down the 3B line so MattE scored. 5-1, no outs.

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