1:58 pm August 18, 2010, by Carroll Rogers
August 18th, 20105:12 pm
Snotboogie – just someone looking for attention IMO.
Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson
August 18th, 2010
That led me to this, damn……. Thanks
August 18th, 20105:13 pm
although, that last tweet about the cubs broadcast is probably DOB from home…
They just said on the air of the Cubs game that Derrek Lee would hold a press conference after their afternoon game with the Padres
less than 10 seconds ago via TweetDeck
things getting better up there for you?
Wayne in Utah
XM is reporting the press conference after the Cubs game today.
Mark says it’s mid-level prospects…..What would a mid-level prospect be?
August 18th, 20105:15 pm
My employer would probably describe me as a mid-level prospect.
Glen W: “I think you were all in favor of trading good prospects to get him.”
“I think???” While the rest of the blog was shooting for pie in the sky, my ENTIRE premise for trading for D Lee was the fact that all factors – if he accepted a trade to Atlanta – pointed towards an inexpensive trade option. At the time, Lee had a sub-.250 BA and (for him) low power numbers, Whatever the Braves give up now, they would’ve given up the same thing – OR LESS – back in July, because of ALL the factors involved: you know them well.
To say that I was willing to give up the earth and sky for D. Lee back in early July is just a plain lie on your part. The D. Lee trade at that time was a genuine buy-low proposition that would’ve benefitted the Braves for the past month. If you can find the blog entry where I proposed specific prospects, hell, for that matters anyone, for Lee, please find it.
Or, you are just wrong and have a beef with my correctitude, dude.
Glen…must be nice to be young…don’t think my employer describes me as a prospect anymore
August 18th, 20105:16 pm
I’ going with Mycal Jones. What do you think, Nolee?
August 18th, 20105:17 pm
Glen…must be nice to be young
I’m not that young, almost 40. I was just making a joke.
A mid level prospect would likely be an A or AA player who isn’t considered Teheran, Del Gado, Vizcaino or anyone vaguely similar.
August 18th, 20105:18 pm
So DLee will have his presser in Chitown in about a 1/2 hr or so once the Cubs finish another loss…
They’re currently starting the bottom of the 9th
I’ going with Mycal Jones.
Doubt they’d want a SS after Starlin Castro.
Probably 1 pitcher and a position player.How about that?
GlenW-It’s all relative – to me, almost 40 is young.
Ease® in Woodstock
August 18th, 20105:19 pm
Hmmmm, I seem to recall another who used to post that really loved his props for predictions. Quite untasteful that chap was…
August 18th, 20105:20 pm
Cubs v Padres over, announcement?
Youth is a relative thing. To me, you are DAMNED young! To nolie, CB, Bat and Lew, I am a kid!
August 18th, 20105:21 pm
Derrek Lee’s tenure with the Cubs is officially OVER!
don’t forget to McFann he is really old
To nolie, CB, Bat and Lew, I am a kid!
Wait – Bat is from that generation?
I wouldnt have guessed at all.
I’m not saying glaus isn’t trying his best. His best just isn’t going to get us deep into the playoffs. He’s a big dude who needs to rest his knees. I think we will all be happier with lee at first and Glaus on the DL getting healthy.
Didn’t see your post, but had to put in a jab or two…..couldn’t resist.
August 18th, 20105:22 pm
I’m almost 60 and I’m not even close to being the oldest here in DOBLand.
Dude, calm down. Yes, I said “I think” because I am not sure. I’m not wrong, I just mis-remembered it. Actually, I just assumed that if you raised it so enthusiastically as a possibility that you must of thought it was worth giving up something to get him.
But I have no idea why you think I was in the other camp. I was open to tha Braves getting anyone for 1B or CF that could produce at any nominal level that did not cost us a good prospect. Even better if they bat right-handed and have any power at all.
The only things that I’ve been saying along that would not happen are Aramis Ramirez, Chris Young, etc. Anyone that came along with future contract obligations.
Recall one time he called the exact score, yes the exact score of a Cowgirls game (who could believe it?)…that was one prop hungry SOB…
August 18th, 20105:23 pm
Wainwright loses his 7th today…
There’s another opening for Huddy…
4:22pm: The Braves and Cubs appear to be in the final stages of the deal and multiple sources seem confident that the teams will complete the trade within two hours, according to MLB.com’s Mark Bowman.
“I’m not that young, almost 40. I was just making a joke.”
And it was a damn good one Glen
I have a feeling its going to be P Erik Cordier for Lee. I hope its not.
August 18th, 20105:24 pm
MLB says official, and minor league pitchers
Ease®, You’re now registered nice!
August 18th, 20105:25 pm
Watching MLB and they just reported that it is a done deal Lee for 2 pitching prospects. Hold your breath.
Glen…I was simply following up on your joke with my own…guess mine must have fallen flat
August 18th, 20105:26 pm
Wayne/Lew – it is all relative. But I have a fine appreciation for the experience and knowledge one develops over the course of time.
Prospects being a somewhat generic term. It won’t be anyone Wren has claimed wouldn’t be traded. Pitching is one area wee have covred in spades.
Rosenthal is saying THREE pitching prospects…
Wouldn’t mind if it was Lopez and Masters
August 18th, 20105:27 pm
Ha – good to know its midlevel pitching prospects. We are fairly deep in that. No position players , even mid level are affordable for us right now.
MLBTR is saying 3 pitching prospects.
Captain Clarence Oveur
From Ken Rosenthal via Twitter:
Deal done: Lee to #Braves for three pitching prospects. #Cubs #MLB
Just giving you crap DOB (but you already knew that).
You obviously love what you do, otherwise you’d just stop bloging with the peeps once you’ve posted the blog. Perhaps occasionally answering a valid question.
Am I jealous that your job allows you be around baseball all the time (or most of the time)? Absolutely. Just like I’m jealous of my ex-bandmate that is the editor for Vintage Guitar magazine when he emails me to let me know that he just got off the phone with Joe Walsh, Billy Gibbons or Ace Frehley for an interview for the mag.
But like the two of you, I didn’t go to school to write for a newspaper or a magazine.
I’m also not stupid enough to realize that even if you love your job, it doesn’t get on your nerves once in a while. It happens.
I love playing guitar and jamming with my wannabe bands. I don’t get paid much for it and put WAY too much effort and manual labor humping gear along with spending too many days on snowy, icy upper-midwest interstates and highways. But that’s the price you pay for the 3-4 hours of happiness on stage.
Similarily, I imagine that the “fun” portion of your work day is the actual baseball game. Like giggin’ with a band, NOBODY sees the rest of the work that goes into it. I still have family members that give me crap for making “over $50 bucks an hour” playing in a band, for clearing 400-500 bucks for a two day weekend. Because they assume that the 8 hours on stage is the only work we do.
No consideration for writing, practicing (not to mention 25+ years of working my ass off to play guitar), fixing gear, driving, setting up, tearing down, making phone calls to book gigs, etc…. etc….
Nobody’s job is EVER as easy as it seems on the surface.
I once had a buddy that did camera repair and his prices were very high because he was the only local guy doing it. Some customer one day ripped him a new one for charging him $75.00 to simply turn a screw.
To which my buddy responded….“yeah… but I know which screw to turn”
Anyhow… off to shoot photos. Enjoy the game everybody.
GlenW=The real problem is the knowledge and experience one forgets over time.
August 18th, 20105:28 pm
2 pitchers, huh? I’ll guess one is Chris Masters.
Three prospects? better be really crappy spects!
3 pitching prospects…hopefully nobody I have ever heard of
3!! For a month and a half of DLee. The Cubs better be picking up >90% of his remaining salary.
I’m going to hate to see guys like Scott Proctor and James Parr go…..
John in NY
is Mannywood next? Just kidding don’t see the Braves taking another 5 mil in salary
August 18th, 20105:29 pm
Three young pitchers to #Cubs: RH Robinson Lopez, RH Tyrelle Harris, LH Jeffrey Lorick. #Braves #MLB
I’ll add Robinson Lopez to that list.
Nova Scotia Steve
#Cubs will get 3 minor-league pitchers from #Braves for Derrek Lee — RHP Robinson Lopez, RHP Tyrelle Harris & LHP Jeffrey Lorick
J-Hey the Hero
Where are you getting that this trade is done?
Wait a minute now…. did somebody call me old (6)
3 guys I’ve never heard of. I’m watching the conference
August 18th, 20105:30 pm
RT @Ken_Rosenthal: Three young pitchers to #Cubs: RH Robinson Lopez, RH Tyrelle Harris, LH Jeffrey Lorick. #Braves #MLB
Cubs are sending cash to the Braves.
Give me a break with those complaining – as if you know who these “prospects” are…
Glen W: “The only things that I’ve been saying along that would not happen are Aramis Ramirez, Chris Young, etc. Anyone that came along with future contract obligations.”
My points exactly! In his walk year, and doing poorly at the time, Lee was ripe for the picking. If the Braves would’ve pulled the trigger at the All Star break, they’d be 5 to 7 games up on the Phils right now. Everything at the time pointed towards the Braves making that move. Bobby thought that, because of his April faith turning into May success, lightning would strike twice with Glaus getting better.
Sometimes, I am smarter than Bobby. A post-PEDS body with a bad knee never recovers in its mid-30’s. Time was wasted.
Well,screwed up again.
It’s all over twitter – deal is official
August 18th, 20105:31 pm
Doesn’t sound expensive to me. Never heard of any of them – likely only richbrave has – or maybe a scout or two.
And if thee is a third one, I’ll go with Cory Rasmus.
How did Ken get deal info more quicker than our on Braves writer DOB and Mark?
August 18th, 20105:32 pm
N8 = Norma Rae
The Cubs get right-hander Robinson Lopez, right-hander Tyrelle Harris and left-hander Jeffrey Lorick and the Braves get cash, according to Rosenthal.
Never heard anything about any of them….Yes
Youth is a relative thing. To me, you are DAMNED young! To nolie, CB, Bat and Lew, I am a kid! _ Wayne in Utah
Hold on a minute there old timer, well respecting my elders I should say Mr. Old Timer.
Of course, sometime in eight or ten years, one of them will come upo and have a great month or two and bloggers will lament their passing from the land of the tomahawk, bitching =, moanoing and groaning all the whle.
Robinson Lopez was one of the prospects….
Glausy on the benchy while Mr. Lee plays a little first? I’m down with that.
And I’m sure Mac will appreciate pitchers being able to attempt pick offs without our first baseman missing the ball.
August 18th, 20105:33 pm
“Cubs are sending cash to the Braves.”
I wish they would send me some
I see no prospects there that say I will turn into winner..but D Lee is a winner.
Three young pitchers to Cubs: RH Robinson Lopez, RH Tyrelle Harris, LH Jeffrey Lorick. Braves-MLB
HELL, I’LL THROW IN A SIX PACK OF BILLY BEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Braves also got cash in the deal…I wonder how much?
August 18th, 20105:34 pm
4:25pm: The Braves acquire Lee for three pitching prospects, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter). Chicago gets get right-hander Robinson Lopez, right-hander Tyrelle Harris and left-hander Jeffrey Lorick according to the Cubs, who will send the Braves money in the deal.
The Cubs get right-hander Robinson Lopez, right-hander Tyrelle Harris and left-hander Jeffrey Lorick according to the Cubs, who will send the Braves money in the deal.
According to MLBTR
If the Braves would’ve pulled the trigger at the All Star break, they’d be 5 to 7 games up on the Phils right now.
There is no doubt he would have cost more to get him then. I know the Cubs would have saved more money, but that was before other teams made other moves which reduced the number of potential trade partners for the Cubs.
I give FW credit for holding out until the price was right.
Robinson Lopez is the main loss there. He was a decent prospect for sure. I think Lorrick and Harris were midling prospects.
But for sure, some folks will pooh pooh this deal.
I guess we can all exhale now.
4:25pm: The Braves acquire Lee for three pitching prospects, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter). The Cubs get right-hander Robinson Lopez, right-hander Tyrelle Harris and left-hander Jeffrey Lorick according to the Cubs, who will send the Braves money in the deal.
So now everyone can stop going off the deep about top prospects. There is one thing we have seen from Wren, he is not dealing players who he feels will help the team really soon.
robinson lopez. tyrelle harris, and jeffrey locke is who they got. we get lee and some money
Listening to Jim Hendry sounds like he may cry…
But says he went to Derrek and said he talked to him Sunday night and into Monday and said he’s very happy for Derrek and that Derrek had decided by Monday afternoon that he wanted to go to Atlanta…
They didn’t discuss any names at all until last night as it was ultimately just that he wanted to give Derrek a chance to win and give him the option of coming to Atlanta.
August 18th, 20105:35 pm
How young is too young? Just curious.
P-Town Brave: dude, I’ll go to the street right now and find you 10 Robinson Lopez’s for a dollar!!!
This was a very good trade, period!
y’all are idiots…complain about non trade and now wren makes a deal and you complain about 3 guys you never heard of
wow my bad on the lateness haha
I’m sure Carroll’s in clubhouse getting info, can’t be at her computer to update you all. Here’s release the Braves sent out a while ago:
ATLANTA – The Atlanta Braves and Chicago Cubs announced today that the two clubs completed a four-player trade. The Braves have acquired first baseman Derrek Lee and cash considerations from the Cubs in exchange for minor-league pitchers Tyrelle Harris (RHP), Robinson Lopez (RHP) and Jeffrey Lorick (LHP). Lee is expected to join the Braves on Friday, when the Club travels to Chicago to open a three-game series at Wrigley Field. He will wear uniform #27.
A three-time Gold Glove winner and two-time All-Star, Lee is in his 14th Major League season and owns a .282 career batting average with 309 home runs and 995 RBIs in 1,790 games. In 109 games for the Cubs this season he hit .251 with 16 home runs and 56 RBIs. Lee is batting .313 with six home runs and 20 RBIs in 24 games since the All-Star break, including .306 with four homers and eight RBIs in 10 games in August. He had four homers in a three-game weekend series at St. Louis, August 13-15.
The 34-year-old Lee finished ninth in voting for the National League’s Most Valuable Player Award last season, when he hit .306 with 35 homers and 111 RBIs. In 2005, he finished third in the league’s MVP voting and won the Silver Slugger Award when he led the circuit with a .335 batting average and scored 120 runs with 46 home runs, 99 extra-base hits and 107 RBIs.
The 6-foot-5, 245-pound Lee spent one season with the San Diego Padres (1997), six seasons with the Florida Marlins (1998-2003) and nearly seven seasons with the Cubs (2004-2010). He was a first-round draft pick (14th overall) by the Padres in 1993, and in 2003, he helped the Marlins win a World Series Championship over the New York Yankees.
I don’t like giving up Harris, Lopez has been rated high but has done very little this year, Lorick I don’t know, you sure it isn’t Locke?
With so much pitching talent in the minors trading some guys we never heard of for a new 1B is a great deal.
this trade could have not been done anymore beautifully unless we got him for Chip Caray.
Would Wren have made this move if Chipper hadn’t gotten hurt?
August 18th, 20105:36 pm
Hey I predicted Lopez… and Lorick as a possibility. I hadn’t seen the deal when I threw Lorick’s name in there.. honestly. But I’m not going to go off on a MIA-like celebration.
Won’t say I’m upset over any of those three pitchers. Tyrelle Harris might be decent, but I don’t think any of them are imminent major leaguers.
Of the 3 only Lopez, is a future stud! Harris has a nice era, but struggles mightily with his command for a power pitching lefty!
You gotta give Frank Wren credit for being able to pull something like this off. Very impressive… hope it pans out.
D.Lee is a big right handed bat. Nice to finally have one
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