1:58 pm August 18, 2010, by Carroll Rogers
August 19th, 201012:35 pm
There is still time for heyward to get hot and get on a streak
And with a rookie class as good as this year’s in the NL, recent memory may have some impact on voters. A good September for any one of three or four guys might be all it takes.
Why is Keith Law talking about the “price” we had to pay for Lee? We gave up virtually nothing, lol… I think that’s just more ESPN hating on Atlanta.
August 19th, 201012:36 pm
ChoppinMama-DL? no way. I can still paint just fine -even if I can only use one eye.
August 19th, 201012:37 pm
DAP – I’ve got tix for the last series too. Gotta show Bobby some love, revel in finishing the season in first place, or witness a down-to-the-wire season between us and the Philthies.
Dan-You got that right. ESPN is as clueless as….. well, as don.
August 19th, 201012:39 pm
Why does anyone take ESPN seriously anymore?
MLBN is where it’s at.
DOB or Carroll
Would the Braves still have interest in Clint Barmes for the utility role?
Brian from SC
OK, I’m delusional now? McCann plays the most premium defensive position on the field for offensive talent, and he has played it well this year according to my eyes. Prado has played the fourth-most premium defensive position, and while he doesn’t make errors, has a below average range.
If McCann were playing 2nd, and Martin playing catcher, it would be reverse…I would pick Prado as MVP. But the fact that Mac is a catcher is enormous.
August 19th, 201012:40 pm
And McCann is NOT a good defensive catcher, no matter HOW premium you believe catcher to be.
August 19th, 201012:41 pm
And as for any position being premium? New age folderol.
August 19th, 201012:42 pm
I would put Prado over Mac in the Braves MVP race, but I would put Hudson in the mix too.
Take away ANY position on the field and you’ve got chaos. They’re all important.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
I shoulda figgered it had something to do with WAR…
I still can’t understand his inconsistencies and lack of hitting with RISP/2 outs. His RBI are still up to about normal standards, though, because he’s had so many men on base in front of him and since the ASG he’s been knocking in more guys with fewer than two outs.
He’s been really hot-and-cold this year, even from one game to another. He did have that 9 game (8 start) stretch when he hit .333 with 3 home runs and 14 RBI.
I haven’t really been disappointed in him, per se…I’ve been more disappointed in myself for setting the bar so high in Spring Training. I practically had him NL MVP–ASG MVP is nothing to sneeze at, though.
I would point out these two other stats, but I think everybody’s pretty sick of reading that from me…
BravesFanChris25 – Yeah, ever since MLBN got Peter Gammons… Tim Kurjerkoff is a complete idiot. He ran an article a few weeks ago about MLB OF not being as laced with talent as it used to be and an entire paragraph was an excerpt from scout and former pitcher Dave Stewart talking about a time when he was watching a Stanford game and “looked out on the field and only saw one black kid and he was the trainer. I said to myself, ‘Where are all the athletes?’” He’s a real scumbag. And Buster Olney is okay, I guess, but he’s no Gammons… really, though, who is?
Heyward is in the running for ROY. For me it is too close to call. It might come down to the last weekend to see who truly deserves it. With 40 games to play too much can happen. We will see.
August 19th, 201012:43 pm
Ease™, you staying in here during the game to read the insanity that gets spewed after every play?
Bottom of the 1st Omar grounds out to SS to lead off the game and you know someone will comment “That’s all he is good for anymore!! Game over they obviously don’t have it today.”.
August 19th, 201012:45 pm
McLeeeeeeeeeew – If you take away the steals given up while Hanson is pitching, McCann is 2nd in the league is CS%. His fielding percentage is middle of the road, but he has only allowed 3 passed balls… he is a severely underrated defensive catcher.
McLeeeeeeeew: if that guy with no arms can play the piano with his feet, one-eyed painting should be a breeze. I envy you artistic types, I can’t even trace good!
Lew And McCann is NOT a good defensive catcher
Not so sure that deserves all caps…
August 19th, 201012:46 pm
McLeeeeeeeeeew, To say that Mccann is not a good defensive catcher is not accurate. He is really good at calling games and framing pitches. I see a lot of catchers that cost their pitchers strikes and outs by not framing a ball accurately. I used to be a catcher and know that you can get a lot more outs for your team by calling a good game and framing pitches than you can by throwing a few more runners out.
August 19th, 201012:48 pm
Mccann is probably the 2nd most valuable catcher in the league besides Mauer. Name any that are better besides him?
Ease™ in Sandy Springs
CraZy © – I might hang around…But is it too early to call…..
Are you suggesting that I don’t pay attention to more than just the Braves?
August 19th, 201012:49 pm
McCann has obviously worked very hard to improve his defense, and this year I think he’s above average. His caught stealing percentage is a career high, and above league average, despite catching for Hanson. His PBs and WPs are at career low levels. 11 NL catchers have allowed more WPs, while 15 have allowed more PBs. His pitchers will tell you he is tremendous at calling a game behind the plate.
What about his defense do you see as below average this year?
Now if he could actually block many of those pitches he frames so well.
Look – this is a zero sum argument. Whoever is MVP is subjective as all hell, nomatter HOW many stats 9new, old or otherwise) anyone cares to dredge up.
At this pount I quit. I’m not going to sit here and denigrate one of my favorite plays to try to convince sabremetric brick walls of my opinion. Later.
August 19th, 201012:52 pm
They took all the WPs from past years off BMac’s baseball-refernce.com page…not sure why. Really bugs me ’cause now I can’t use those to prove he’s been better.
August 19th, 201012:53 pm
McLeeeeeeeeeew, I’m not saying that you should change your opinion. I’m just saying why I disagree
August 19th, 201012:54 pm
Check his yahoo sports page, McFann.
Mauer and McCann do not play in the same league.
It is ok if the phillies keep beating down the giants as long as we are winning. It just puts us that much more ahead of them in a wild card scenario. Of course we all want the pennant but just looking at the playoffs any time the reds, cardinals or giants lose its ok with me.
They’re there, McFann…just in a different place. Check near the bottom where it says “Advanced Fielding — C Baserunning*”
August 19th, 201012:55 pm
And I’m just saying why I disagree. I’m out of here. It’s almost game time and I refuse to blog during a game. Like I said. Later.
5 more mins
I don’t think you should change your opinion either, Lew. I’m just trying to defend mine. I guess I’m a delusional brick wall for doing so.
August 19th, 20101:00 pm
new blog is up
FYI….In 17 August games..the Braves have allowed 3 runs or less in 16 of 17 games…Score 4 runs and we’ll be victorious!!!
August 19th, 20101:01 pm
Lew: I’ve been away from the blog for a few days but I just wanted to say I’m sorry for your loss.I lost my mother in Feb. 09 and it still hurts. You have many people who love you and care about you. So, hold your head up high and keep moving forward. Otherwise, we may just have to shoot you.
August 19th, 20101:05 pm
Don’t worry. ESPN also has a Neyer column up right now saying that the Braves got him pretty affordably.
I enjoy Keith Law, but he looks at everything through the commmoditization perspective. 6 weeks of Lee is not work those 3 prospects to him. But I think he takes too narrow of a view soemtimes. The market price for a player is still driven by the market, which is heavily impacted by what else is available on the market.
This factor and others (such as organizational depth) are part of the context of the deal that I think he too often doesn’t consider.
But in his defense, knowing his work, what he is not saying is that the Braves made a bad deal. What he is saying is that when he analyzes the commodoties that were exchanged, he sees the Cubs as getting more value than the Braves.
August 19th, 20101:07 pm
I actually like the idea of taking a flier on Hawpe if we can?????
August 19th, 20101:16 pm
McCann plays the most premium defensive position on the field for offensive talent, and he has played it well this year according to my eyes. Prado has played the fourth-most premium defensive position, and while he doesn’t make errors, has a below average range Brian SC
McCann is at one run saved this year, Prado is at 4 runs saved at second this year and 2 at third base.
August 19th, 20101:18 pm
And McCann is NOT a good defensive catcher, no matter HOW premium you believe catcher to be. McLew
he’s a hell of a lot better than most of y’all give him credit for being
August 19th, 20101:20 pm
They need to move Heyward to the 8th spot.
Hat Land Dub Raves
August 19th, 20101:34 pm
What exactly is “beyond gay”? Pansexual? Bestiality?
Nova Scotia Steve
August 19th, 20102:15 pm
So anything think we’ll score any runs today???
August 20th, 20104:13 pm
Chip Carey really is on of the good ones. He is such a positive guy.
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