Mulling over Derrek Lee and his fit with the Braves

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Braves One

August 18th, 2010
2:51 pm

Melky is showing his worth down the stretch, at the plate and in the field and he looks like he’s actually having some fun doing it (a character trait for Braves teams over the years). Putting Melky in center pretty much full time would not hurt us, besides he’s a switch hitter.

Rick Ankiel would be a good left handed option off the bench and an above average defensive replacement in the outfield with a rifle arm.

With Diaz and Hinske in left and Jason in right the outfield should be ready for the stretch run.

Having Lee at first with Glaus a right hand bat off the bench would give us added strength.

Glaus and Ankiel seem a bit more formidable than Hicks and “Home Run” Hernandez off the bench in the later innings.

If Freddie Freeman gets the call in a couple of weeks when the rosters expand, this will some added power as well as a fill in for Lee at first.

The nice thing about being at first, other than staying there, is that each time you win you accomplish two things. You make the team behind you win and it takes another day off the calendar. If you win, time will eventually run out on the team behind you.

Hillbilly

August 18th, 2010
2:51 pm

Braves have 4 afternoon games in a row (Thursday – Sunday) – that is going to be weird….What am I going to do with myself at night? (Besides the Falcons game Sunday night)

Take a shot and become unavailable.

njbraves

August 18th, 2010
2:51 pm

I’m so sick and tired of people worrying and complaining about who the Braves might give up in any trade. The goal of the organization is to win the WS!! Obviously, you wouldn’t want to give up much in a deal like this, bit they will have to give up something. If the player or players involved here are even decent, everyone will freak out. Then there will be 20 pages of Tex and Wainright talk. It’s so predictable and ridiculous. Let’s rehash the Tex deal for the millionth time…. Realize this, the Braves minor league system is pretty loaded. If they have to use some of it to make the ML club better, so be it. D Lee is worth it.

Josh

August 18th, 2010
2:54 pm

DOB, gut feeling you think this trade gets done?

Braves One

August 18th, 2010
2:55 pm

Carroll…are you actually DOB’s alter ego?

jeffrey d

August 18th, 2010
2:55 pm

Josh – from what I’ve read, this deal is pretty much a go

MiaBchBravesFan

August 18th, 2010
2:56 pm

Wes, wes, YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. Embrace the D. Lee acquisition. Banish Troy Glaus to the end of the bench. Watch D. Lee propell the Bravos to a WS victory in Bobby’s final season.

We’ve jumped off the Titanic (Glaus), and jumped onto the QE2 (Lee!).

EMBRACE THE LEE!!!

Josh

August 18th, 2010
2:56 pm

anybody going to see the Pats and Falcons tomorrow night?

bravofan

August 18th, 2010
2:56 pm

I say the deal gets done

Braves One

August 18th, 2010
2:56 pm

If the Lee deal wasn’t going to go, someone from either or both teams would be denying the rumor. No denials…deal done.

MiaBchBravesFan

August 18th, 2010
2:57 pm

JEFFREY D: YES, YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU WERE ONE OF THE NAYSAYERS!!!

Sucks to be wrong, huh dude?

C's

August 18th, 2010
2:57 pm

“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

Well, my car isn’t broke, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t a few parts that could use and upgrade.

jeffrey d

August 18th, 2010
2:59 pm

I’ve never shot down a Derrek Lee trade proposal. But whatever

Chuck

August 18th, 2010
3:00 pm

Nick Esasky 2:15 post – thanks! That really made me laugh!

C's

August 18th, 2010
3:01 pm

AN upgrade.

Stupid typo…..

TDub

August 18th, 2010
3:02 pm

Najeh – The Varsity, or course.

Regarding Carroll being DOB’s alter ego: Maybe it’s the other way around? Maybe they’re THE SAME PERSON? I picture some Mrs. Doubtfire wardrobe change zaniness in the AJC locker rooms…

Michael B

August 18th, 2010
3:03 pm

Carroll is the Omar Infante of beat writers! Thanks for all you do CR!!

bravofan

August 18th, 2010
3:04 pm

Adam Laroche cleared waivers interesting

scottbravesfan

August 18th, 2010
3:04 pm

There is no way that the Cubs will get any decent prospects if the Braves are going to pay the rest of his 3 million dollars. I love this move by the Braves if Lee accepts the trade. He has been tearing it up lately and a trade to Atlanta could really light a fire under him.

bravofan

August 18th, 2010
3:04 pm

this is from mlbtraderumors:
12:10pm: The teams will finalize a deal this afternoon, according to Bob Nightengale of USA Today (on Twitter). Glaus will move to the bench.

jeffrey d

August 18th, 2010
3:04 pm

I think Carroll’s more like David Ross. Good enough to be a starter, but sticks to one position. If she was like Omar Infante, she’d be filling in for DOB, Business, Obits, etc.

GTSteve

August 18th, 2010
3:04 pm

@Hillbilly, I do that everynight

SoWeGa Fanatic

August 18th, 2010
3:05 pm

MiaBchBravesFan

August 18th, 2010
2:49 pm
Where is MY D. Lee props!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????

Everyone realizes a month ago the deal would have cost too much . . . except you, I mean.

Braves Fan Since "80

August 18th, 2010
3:06 pm

Interesting some of the commets….. We all want to see FF come in and play well but do we want to bring in a top prospect like the pitcher from NC State….can not think of his name. He was rushed and probably will never be anything more than a trivia question

This team needs to plug holes in center or 1b….probably will only be able to do one….. Ankiel while not a great offensive player is an above avg out fielder…. hit 220 and he is good enough

Josh

August 18th, 2010
3:06 pm

I’m going to be in Atlanta tomorrow through Saturday..what are peoples thoughts on the Flying Biscuit? i’ve heard it’s really good, Thanks for any info

jeffrey d

August 18th, 2010
3:06 pm

But yes, thanks for the superb work, Carroll. You do a wonderful job, and the blog doesn’t miss a beat when you fill in

erm016

August 18th, 2010
3:06 pm

Braves are in a win now mode. This deal makes sense. They’re not going to give away the farm. I like the move.

Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson

August 18th, 2010
3:07 pm

It’s funny how sometimes it takes a boatload of top prospects to land somebody like Teixeira or Josh Beckett, but sometimes you can get somebody like Lee for next to nothing. _ jeffery d

Well yeah, but really when the Braves traded for Teixeira he had one and a half years left and was entering his prime. If he had lead the Braves to a World Series no one would have said a word, and if could have pitched too maybe he would have.

Regardless, Lee for six weeks and a salary dump for the Cubs should not cost much.

bravofan

August 18th, 2010
3:07 pm

I cant see how this doesnt better the Braves!!

Danga

August 18th, 2010
3:07 pm

The acquisition of D. Lee does not necessarily make us better. We are still talking about a guy sitting out games due to back soreness in the midst of one of his worst seasons. At this point I think he probably makes us better, but we gotta hope he stays healthy and hot.

BTW MiaBch, last I saw you were no longer in favor of trading for Lee and you were more interested in playingFF

Intervention, Thy Name Is Wren!

August 18th, 2010
3:09 pm

“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

Say my car has a bad starter. It slips, grinds and seems like it ain’t gonna turn over and start my car. (Braves offense most nights through 6 innings) Then just as I start to think I’m finally going to have to walk home….BOOM! My car starts! I make it home and my car is a hero! (Braves late inning rallies and improbably come from behind wins)

Next evening same thing. Starter slips, grinds and seems like it ain’t gonna turn over and start my car. (Braves offense most nights through 6 innings) Then just as I start to think I’m finally going to have to walk home….BOOM! My car starts! I make it home and my car is again a hero!

I promise anyone who has this starter problem this… One day, probably when you most need your car to start, that starter is gonna be toast and leave you stranded, more than likely at the worst time. ( at the end of the season, trying to hold the Phils off or in the playoffs, trying to advance)

This team has been great, but can anyone seriously expect the improbable, come from behind wins to happen day in and day out, especially when the pressure increases?

This team needs a bat. If they can’t get one then cross your fingers and hope for the best. But if they can get one, or the chance that a performer like Lee can bring some spark to the lineup, then they would be crazy not to do it.

brian

August 18th, 2010
3:10 pm

Danga – your first paragraph sounds like a politician.

Does not necessarily makes us better……at this point I think he probably makes us better??????

jeffrey d

August 18th, 2010
3:10 pm

I understand that, Bat…it’s still interesting how a year of JD Drew cost us a probably Cy Young winner, but 2 months of Derrek Lee will cost us a couple Hank Aaron autographs

troy glaus

August 18th, 2010
3:11 pm

I say we throw nate mcclouth in the deal for some oxycotin for my knees. I’m an embarrassment to the myself and the team. Please don’t pay me anymore money to watch me strike out and ground into a double play. I’m just a horrible player. Thank u frank

jeffrey d

August 18th, 2010
3:11 pm

Not only Wainwright, but we’re also forgetting that we gave up Ray “Cheeseburger” King in the JD Drew Deal

bravofan

August 18th, 2010
3:11 pm

Braves play cubs friday saturday and sunday could make for an interesting series

Danga

August 18th, 2010
3:13 pm

brian…I have that tendency.

I guess I’m a maybe. This ain’t MVP Lee we are talking about, but maybe he has another hot streak left in him.

mike jones

August 18th, 2010
3:13 pm

It good to make a confession troy. Way to go u schmuck. Get it off ur chest.

Frankie Wren

August 18th, 2010
3:14 pm

MiabchbravesFan,

Nice call although your not totally correct. This deal doesn’t happen unless Chipper goes down, sorry.

Chuck

August 18th, 2010
3:14 pm

njbraves: man, you’re right – that tex deal was terrible. Sure hope that doesn’t happen this time… :-)

If Glaus can get healthy again, they’ll still use him as a DH in the Series. We’ve never had a good DH guy that I remember, just a good “get hits” utility guy that we throw up there. AL usually has a big bat for that. Sorry for him, but he’s probably not comfortable immitating the Tin Man out there, either. He was great when healthy, so that’s something. Maybe he can come back pain-free.

jeffrey d

August 18th, 2010
3:15 pm

He doesn’t have to be MVP Lee. His 16 HR would put him third on the team. And he hit 35 HR just last year. And it looks like he’s really heating up

Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson

August 18th, 2010
3:16 pm

but 2 months of Derrek Lee will cost us a couple Hank Aaron autographs

Whoa, forget that ……. Tommie Aaron and a visit to Super Cuts …. take it or leave it.

gdubber

August 18th, 2010
3:16 pm

Make the deal ASAP. We have 3 games with the Cubs coming up, they are better with him than without him, and 4 games with the Cards, and he has shown what he can do against them. If Troy sits or is DA’d he will improve from the rest. Lee is a huge upgrade in the field over anyone on the 40 man roster. Pay him the money and let’s move forward.

jeffrey d

August 18th, 2010
3:16 pm

Way to go u schmuck. Get it off ur chest.

Man…there’s a lot of hate for a guy who’s trying his best, but is struggling because he’s in a lot of pain.

burdell

August 18th, 2010
3:16 pm

I’m still trying to figure our who the Cubs will get. I thought Cody Johnson, but he’s starting to rake again after the demotion so maybe there’s some hope for pre-season #8 prospect. Maybe a starting pitcher that’s probably never going to see the rotation. Or maybe Wren can pull the ol “Yeah, we’ve got one mid-tier prospect in AAA. He’s doing OK with a .750 OPS. 5 SB and 5 HRs in 26 games, though. What’s his name? Nate something. Oh well, doesn’t matter. Sign here.”

jeffrey d

August 18th, 2010
3:17 pm

I’m off to go melt in the bajillion degree weather

P-Town Brave

August 18th, 2010
3:17 pm

Troy Glaus NOT in the lineup tonight FWIW

Colin

August 18th, 2010
3:17 pm

wow I just read this on ESPN, and yes I like it. I like it a lot.

Steve from OH

August 18th, 2010
3:18 pm

Man…there’s a lot of hate for a guy who’s trying his best, but is struggling because he’s in a lot of pain.

Yeah. Lay off the guy. He’s out there busting is @ss and playing through knee pain every day. Those are the kinds of players I’d want on my team.

It’s not his fault he’s in the lineup, guys.

Braves One

August 18th, 2010
3:18 pm

“The Braves wouldn’t have to part ways with Julio Teheran, Mike Minor or any of the other young pitchers that they have thrown into their “elite prospect” category. But the source indicated that the Cubs are seeking to land at least two above-average prospects.” — MLB.com

Danga

August 18th, 2010
3:18 pm

Jeff D….I agree. All we need is a good two months out of the guy. Plus he is without a doubt an improvement in the field.

Intervention, Thy Name Is Wren!

August 18th, 2010
3:19 pm

“Troy Glaus NOT in the lineup tonight FWIW”

Glaus is hurting. Tweaked the knee again last night. Probably just sitting him because he can’t even walk.

Marc in FL

August 18th, 2010
3:20 pm

OMG Yes! I would love Lee in a Braves Uni!

burdell

August 18th, 2010
3:20 pm

DOB,

If Lee is added to the roster, who is sent down: Raw Dog or Diory?

And why have the announcers not figured out what “raw dog” actually means? Chip I could understand, but I expect more from Joe Simpson.

enz

August 18th, 2010
3:20 pm

Is Carroll Rogers ever NOT filling in for David O’Brien? When does this man work?

Rob from SC

August 18th, 2010
3:21 pm

Marek might go in the trade I would assume….I hope we keep Kimbrel though

BravesDA

August 18th, 2010
3:21 pm

lineup: Infante 4 Heyward 9 Prado 5 McCann 2 Hinske 3 Cabrera 7 Gonzalez 6 Ankiel 8 Hudson 1

Gone Viral

August 18th, 2010
3:21 pm

“Glaus is hurting. Tweaked the knee again last night.”

I think Bobby has better knees that Glaus at this point. I’m mostly joking. Mostly.

Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson

August 18th, 2010
3:21 pm

He’s out there busting is @ss and playing through knee pain every day.

You may not have noticed this but some do not consider the players real people.

CB

August 18th, 2010
3:22 pm

Hate on this blog? Nah,never happens here. : roll:

Colin

August 18th, 2010
3:22 pm

if this deal gets done ill be the happiest kid in NY, this is just what we need a offensive bat at 1st!!

mike jones

August 18th, 2010
3:22 pm

Jeffery d are u really troy glaus and ur using pseudo name.

sportsmandh

August 18th, 2010
3:23 pm

If the Cubs trade us Lee, I guess Zambrano is gonna have to find someone new to fight with in the dugout

hmmmm......

August 18th, 2010
3:23 pm

So we replacing an older injured 1st basemen with another older injured 1st basemen. Any chance the cubs would give up Nady too? He can play the outfield corners and 1st base. I say we bring Laroche back again. He cleared waivers

Colin

August 18th, 2010
3:24 pm

Glaus could play still, just not as much..maybe at 3rd.

Fred

August 18th, 2010
3:24 pm

I wonder if Glaus is not playing because he might be headed for the DL after the Lee trade is completed. He seemingly aggravated those knees running the bases last night.

P-Town Brave

August 18th, 2010
3:25 pm

It better flippin not be Marek!

I would give them a Double A pitcher not named Delgado or Teheran and a Double A bat…thats it

David O'Brien

August 18th, 2010
3:25 pm

Braves lineup 1. Infante 2B, 2. Heyward RF, 3. Prado 3B, 4. McCann C, 5. Hinske 1B, 6. Cabrera LF, 7. Gonzalez SS, 8. Ankiel CF, 9. Hudson RHP

Brian from SC

August 18th, 2010
3:25 pm

Hinske played 1st some a week or two ago against righties as well, so it doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

bravofan

August 18th, 2010
3:25 pm

lets dump kk and his contract

Fred

August 18th, 2010
3:25 pm

The best part about this Lee deal is that I will be in Chicago this weekend to attend the games. I’m really looking forward to this trip.

P-Town Brave

August 18th, 2010
3:26 pm

FOR THE LOVE OF….

And the last time….

TROY GLAUS IS NEVER GOING TO PLAY 3b!!

Steve from OH

August 18th, 2010
3:27 pm

Hate on this blog? Nah,never happens here

It’s like the Player Hater’s Blog or something out here.

Colin

August 18th, 2010
3:27 pm

I like the lineup, seems like a winning one to me.

Efrim

August 18th, 2010
3:27 pm

Keith Law’s take on the Braves 2010 draft:

Atlanta was one of the lowest-spending teams in the draft this year at under $4 million total, especially when you consider their lack of a first-round pick; their biggest bonus payout was $800K to sandwich pick Matt Lipka, a middle infielder/wide receiver who was teammates with Dodgers’ first-round pick Zach Lee. Lipka is the best prospect in their crop, a surprisingly physical middle infielder with plus speed, quick hands, and good instincts. Beyond that they grabbed some good value with Andrelton Simmons, Dave Filak, Toledo closer Matt Suschak (whose draft stock probably dipped when Toledo made him a starter in April), and injured Notre Dame right-hander Evan Danieli. They took two tough signs late, Zack Alvord and Stefan Sabol, but didn’t sign either.

Chuck

August 18th, 2010
3:27 pm

Glaus on DL or not in August? When September gets here, Lee can be spelled by either Glaus or Freeman. Seems like a good fit to get someone that is great but will need some time off. The way Freeman is playing, he won’t be a drop-off when he plays. The team just got a lot stronger!

Question

August 18th, 2010
3:28 pm

Does it mean anything if Glaus is not in the line up tonight?

Rob from SC

August 18th, 2010
3:28 pm

Would Hoover be too much to give up?

SoWeGa Fanatic

August 18th, 2010
3:28 pm

THIS JUST IN (for the 10,000th time) GLAUS WILL NOT PLAY 3RD!!!

P-Town Brave

August 18th, 2010
3:28 pm

WOW…

There are just some real dumb ppl that call in to radio stations in Atlanta…

IF you’re going to call in and talk about Braves Baseball, you should at least prepare and try and know what you’re talking about…

Carroll Rogers

August 18th, 2010
3:28 pm

That’s a good point, Fred. He looked sluggish running to second.

Hot Girlz at Turner Field Report

August 18th, 2010
3:29 pm

IHEARTCARROLL

August 18th, 2010
3:29 pm

P-Town Brave,

Just wondering, do you think Glaus could maybe move across the infield and play 3rd???

Steve from OH

August 18th, 2010
3:29 pm

Rob–I really don’t think we’d be giving up Hoover or Marek. Sounds to me like it’s a straight salary dump for the Cubs.

IHEARTCARROLL

August 18th, 2010
3:29 pm

Welcome back Carroll. We missed you in transit.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 18th, 2010
3:30 pm

Thanks for the new Blog, Ms. Rogers!

P-Town Brave

I cann see your point…but if they bat BMac third, hundreds of people are gonna come on here every day complaining about how he “clogs up the bases for our cleanup hitter!”

;) I really don’t think I cann make an intelligent case against his batting third because I’m not so high on the subject. But I am high on the subject of his batting fifth instead of fourth, so that I cann make a case for! :P

James

August 18th, 2010
3:30 pm

He will be a perfect fit for the Braves. He’s a proven winner and a great first baseman with power. The Braves will be in good shape in the playoffs with Lee hitting in the lineup.

burdell

August 18th, 2010
3:31 pm

Does it mean anything if Glaus is not in the line up tonight?

It means that he will not be on the field playing defense at the start of the 1st inning. Other than that, with his recent limping and a RHP on the mount, it probably just means he needs some rest.

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

August 18th, 2010
3:31 pm

Thanks for the lineup, Ms. Rogers.

David O'Brien

August 18th, 2010
3:32 pm

enz: Thanks for concern. Flying to Chicago tomorrow, since the Friday series opener is a day game. Doing the seven-game trip, at end of which I’ll have worked and/or traveled for work 16 of 18 days, not including today, which was ostensibly a day off even though spent first three hours of it online blogging and Twittering and calling around to check on D. Lee.

But we all know you work 11-13 hours a day most days, right? And you work six days a week on average, right? Riiiight. Get back to work and stop playing around on the Internet, enz.

IHEARTCARROLL

August 18th, 2010
3:33 pm

McFann

I think that was Mister Rogers with the lineup.

SoWeGa Fanatic

August 18th, 2010
3:35 pm

How on Earth does Livan Hernandez have a 3.08 era?

Hillbilly

August 18th, 2010
3:35 pm

If we DO get Lee, I like our chances in a bench-clearing brawl with him, Melky, and Farnsworth on our side. Remember the near-catastrophic hook Lee threw at Chris Young of the Padres a few years back? If that punch would have landed, Young would still be eating through a straw.

And yes, Melky has a past history. He punched Evan Longoria in the Shelley Duncan spring training pandemonium a couple of years ago.

TennesseePaul

August 18th, 2010
3:35 pm

TROY GLAUS IS NEVER GOING TO PLAY 3b!!

That may be, but I’ve heard from an inside source that the plan is to put Omar on the bench, keep Marteeen at 3B and move Glaus to 2B. Glaus’ grit and determination to grind it out this year with those bad knees has the teams higher ups excited to see him plant, jump, turn and throw to Gonzalez for a double play. Race into the gap and stab a liner out of the air. Dive to his left and right…
Shouldn’t be a problem at all for the team or Glaus and should be very inspiring for the inner city kids.

Braves One

August 18th, 2010
3:36 pm

P-Town Brave

August 18th, 2010
3:26 pm

FOR THE LOVE OF….

And the last time….

TROY GLAUS IS NEVER GOING TO PLAY 3b!!

————————————————–

Let me back P-Town up and add that if Glaus played third with his lack of mobility, they would eat him alive bunting on him. He has missed balls at first, including throws from the pitcher because he could not reach out or down to get the ball. These are the pros and teams would exploit Glaus at third for all its worth.

raleighbravefan

August 18th, 2010
3:36 pm

SoWEGa – you beat me to it earlier – D. Lee is a much better deal now because he is now owed a lot less money. Also, his hitting has picked up lately.

Laroach cleared because he will be owed a lot of money next year.

Question

August 18th, 2010
3:36 pm

What is getting older:
1. the questions about DOBs status on his “off” days
2. the continuous internet rumors of Bill Cosby’s death
3. helicopters in pursuit of Brett Favre sightings?

IceColdATLien

August 18th, 2010
3:36 pm

MiaBchBravesFan

Even a broken clock is right twice every day…

SoWeGa Fanatic

August 18th, 2010
3:37 pm

DOB, “which was ostensibly a day off even though spent first three hours of it online blogging and Twittering and calling around to check on D. Lee.”

DOB, why don’t you just read the blog? Everything you need to know is right here.

David..(Athens, AL)

August 18th, 2010
3:37 pm

Question; i vote for #1

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