Chipper Jones has torn ACL, needs surgery – updated

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BravesinTN

August 12th, 2010
12:19 pm

Although not wise, you can go without an ACL for a short time. Won’t feel to well, but he could do it for a couple of months. Brace it up, let’s go! I’m pulling for you, Chipper!

SMDH

August 12th, 2010
12:19 pm

I’m not shocked at all about what i’m reading on this board. Anybody that’s saying that the Braves won’t recover from this and also saying that Omar can’t play everyday does not have a clue. Yes, Chipper was beginning to turn it around, but honestly there is not much drop off with him now out of the line up.

The Braves have all kinds of options. Glaus moving back to third is probably the dumbest of all options that I have ever heard and if Cox does that then he needs to go ahead and retire NOW. Brooks Conrad is also not going to be moved over there to start once Prado returns back from his injury – not when there are two better options.

The most reasonable options are Omar Infante or Martin Prado who is a better 3rd basemen than he is a second basemen which is saying a lot. I wouldn’t be shocked at all if Cox switches Prado over to playing 3rd and move Omar to playing second base which is a position that he can play EVERYDAY.

Fans need to hold their heads up and quit crying. This team is still in as good of shape to win today as they were yesterday (talent wise). Where do they miss Chipper? He is no doubt a leader on this ball club but there are also other new leaders on this team now – Brian McCann. Now if this was Brian McCann being out for the rest of the year I’d say we were in trouble, but Chipper is replaceable at this point in his career. Omar Infante has done it once earlier this year and also did it a few times last year.

Not going to give up on this squad – LETS GO BRAVES!

Frenchy

August 12th, 2010
12:20 pm

Voice of Reason @12:15

I think it would be more of a shame to see him end his career like Ken Griffey Jr., At least now he is an active part of the team. Better that than have him hang around and start to look old. At least the last memories of him now is that streak he had started the last few games.

Tommy

August 12th, 2010
12:20 pm

You people are crazy! At this point I would choose Pendleton over Glaus to play 3rd.

Hooters Girl

August 12th, 2010
12:20 pm

I’ll see you around 11 tonite honey

Jo-Bu

August 12th, 2010
12:20 pm

ITP Braves Fan @ 12:18 pm

Ditto, dat! I don’t know how anyone with the knees he has right now can even play 1B much less 3B.

Knute Rockne

August 12th, 2010
12:21 pm

It’s our destiny, Braves fans.

Let’s win one….for the CHIPPER!

LC

August 12th, 2010
12:21 pm

Replacing really ain’t that difficult fellas. When prado comes back infante goes to 3rd and we have his bat in the lineup daily. Call Freeman up and we are fine.

Bobbeeee's Cox

August 12th, 2010
12:21 pm

I don’t want to see Glaus charging all the bunts headed his way at 3B… Prado at 3B makes more sense. Get well Chip.

Plate Appearance

August 12th, 2010
12:21 pm

WREN’S NEXT MOVE

Freeman up from the minors. Glaus to third base.

Michael Scharff

August 12th, 2010
12:21 pm

Goodbye Chipper (for good?) = Goodbye playoffs?
Or, can the Braves “just win one (more WS) for the (Ch)ipper?”

CSpin

August 12th, 2010
12:21 pm

Will he still travel with the team or no? I think they need his presence.

Greg Norton

August 12th, 2010
12:21 pm

Braves fans: I wanted you to know that I’m here and I’m ready and willing to fill in for Chipper.

Yeah, we’re doomed.

August 12th, 2010
12:21 pm

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eric the elder

August 12th, 2010
12:21 pm

Moving Glaus to 3rd would be to wave the “Wait ’til next year” flag.

Tami

August 12th, 2010
12:22 pm

I hate to break the news to those hoping for rehab for Chipper. If you go back to DOB’s piece, it’s a season-ENDING injury. He must have surgery to repair it. There is no temporary fix for this. Since it’s the same knee from 16 years ago, it could mean a CAREER-ending injury as well for Chipper. This is horrible news for Chipper, and it may likely help him get more firm on what is he’s going to do from this point.

Nut Job

August 12th, 2010
12:22 pm

Sucks for Chipper but all hope is not lost. No moves need to be made. Prado plays 3rd and Infante plays 2nd. Conrad is probably not an everyday guy but could fill in if needed. Infante is hitting well over .300 as is Prado. Not much of a production drop off from what I see, just a loss of a little depth.

I hope Chipper can come back from this. It would be nice to see him give it a go but I’m not sure he will. I grew up watching him help build this franchise into a dynasty. He was the Jason Heyward of the 90’s for the Braves. People tend to forget how few players stay in the same uniform for their entire careers like the players did in the old days. He is of a dying breed.

See if ARod or one of those other money hungry chumps restructures their contracts so the organization can afford to bring in other players.

Good luck Chipper, your boys are gonna win this one for you and Bobby!

Archangel

August 12th, 2010
12:22 pm

Freddie Freeman needs to be called up now!

CSpin

August 12th, 2010
12:22 pm

LOL Hooter’s Girl.

Man there are some creative responses up in here.

GT Fan

August 12th, 2010
12:22 pm

Cspin, thank you for that image.

Bushwacker

August 12th, 2010
12:22 pm

Hang in there Chipper, this has beena magical season so far and it ain’t over yet, just rest him for the rest of this month, have him back on the roster before Sept 1 so he is eleigible for post season.
Then wear a brace that gives lateral support and go for it,he may be able to play without further injury.
I’m sure God is a bigger Braves fans than Phillie fan, he will make it better!!

KnightInATL

August 12th, 2010
12:22 pm

“I feel like my dog just died in a lawnmower accident.” -CSpin

I couldn’t have said it any better. Today is a sad day for Braves Nation.

Waldo

August 12th, 2010
12:23 pm

If this is the end of Chipper’s career how will he be able to continue supporting all of his illegitimate kids?

Tami

August 12th, 2010
12:23 pm

I agree with CSpin: I think if Chipper could still travel with the team like Greg Olson did back in 1991 — broken leg in a cast & all — it would be almost as good as having his bat in the lineup. The team loves this guy. They need his presence down the stretch for sure!

Innocent Bystander

August 12th, 2010
12:23 pm

Here are my thoughts:

1. ABSOLUTELY NO Glaus at third. If he played at third, every single opposing hitter would drop a bunt down the third base line. Bad news.

2. Prado/Infante give us lots of options on the waiver wire. We could acquire a third baseman, a second baseman, or an OFer to replace Chipper’s bat. We don’t have a true 3 hitter (Prado? JHey?) but we have enough depth to piece together a decent lineup if we find one more bat. Our lineup has been hurting of late, and Chipper has been raking during that time. This lineup less Chipper won’t score more than 2-3 runs/game.

3. The real question is… Who can we pick up on the waiver wire? It’s difficult for a first place team to get anybody unless they clear waivers entirely.

CSpin

August 12th, 2010
12:24 pm

You’re very welcome. Poor poor ralphie…

Fire, not retire Bobby Cox

August 12th, 2010
12:24 pm

I agree with Archangel!

chone figgins

August 12th, 2010
12:24 pm

i am the answer. get me out of seattle, frank wren, i’ll win you a championship.

Storey

August 12th, 2010
12:24 pm

He can wear a brace and keep playing untill the end of the season.
Have surgury November 1.
I have had ACL twice, and it is not easy.
Sid Bream wore the brace.

I Hate Troy Glaus (formerly I Hate Liberty Media)

August 12th, 2010
12:24 pm

This lineup just lost some punch it couldn’t afford to lose.

Roger Dorn

August 12th, 2010
12:24 pm

Remedy:
1. Icy Hot
2. Throw in a chew
3. Advil
4. Repeat

Chipper will be back in no time. But seriously, that sucks. Chipper is a great player/coach/mentor.

bravesfaninnc

August 12th, 2010
12:24 pm

let remember couple of important thing.The first thing is that this was not chipper team anymore .this is Mccann Prado team .Also let not forget that we still have Conrad, Omar, Hinske .I’m not saying that losing Chipper won’t hurt because it will because chipper was starting to hit .With that in mind it not like we have to call up someone who is not ready to be the starting 3rd only because we don’t have a relabel backup 3rd baseman

Fire, not retire Bobby Cox

August 12th, 2010
12:25 pm

Glaus’ knees are too bad to play third idiots!!

Joey

August 12th, 2010
12:25 pm

Wren will make a move. Watch and see.

Frenchy the Mutt

August 12th, 2010
12:25 pm

Bobby Cox: I can play third. Take me Bobby, take me please—just because I strike out a lot, these yankees in New York don’t like me anymore.

Brave out in CO

August 12th, 2010
12:25 pm

My heart is broken and sad. Chipper, you have and always will be my favorite Brave.

The Real Heisenberg

August 12th, 2010
12:25 pm

Prado moving to 3B depends on whether or not his pinky affects his ability to make the longer throw. Otherwise I agree Prado at 3B & Infante at 2B is preferred for a longer term.

Brian

August 12th, 2010
12:25 pm

I hate to see him end his career this way, I don’t think he comes back.

Kimberly

August 12th, 2010
12:26 pm

Crap crap crap

Joey

August 12th, 2010
12:26 pm

Stay classy, “I Hate . . . . . .”

htownbravesfan

August 12th, 2010
12:26 pm

I luv Chipper. This is awful. Furthermore, anyone who thinks Troy Glaus can play third base at a decent level obviously hasn’t been watching the same robot I’ve watched at first base this year. He can barely move. He would cost the Braves countless runs if that were to take place. It won’t. Look for a move or Infante to be the everyday 3B when Prado gets back. I still think we’ll make the playoffs, but the offense just won’t be capable of putting enough runs on the board to win it all.

Ricbar

August 12th, 2010
12:27 pm

Put Glaus at third and bring Freddie Freeman up to play 1st. Problem solved!

Brock

August 12th, 2010
12:27 pm

you guys screaming glaus to third are out of your minds!! He can hardly move fast enough to beat out a runner to first. The pitcher is always bailing him out over there. Third base?!!! Have you watched a game all season?

Nate McOut

August 12th, 2010
12:28 pm

Fire, not retire Bobby Cox

August 12th, 2010
12:28 pm

Sorry kids, but you have seen the last of the chipster! Enter Freddie Freeman.

I Hate Troy Glaus (formerly I Hate Liberty Media)

August 12th, 2010
12:28 pm

“Wren will make a move. Watch and see.”

That’s what I’m afraid of.

BravesFan

August 12th, 2010
12:28 pm

Who are we kidding? Chipper has been riddled with injuries every season for the past several years. Will we miss him? of course, but this does not make or break this season. Put Brooks in at 3B every day and see what we get out of the kid. Once Prado is back we could platoon Conrad and Infante at 3B. All is not lost Braves fans – we still have a very legitimate shot at the post season. We love you Chipper, but we cannot let this send the team into a downward spiral.

Glenn Hubbard

August 12th, 2010
12:28 pm

Dale Murphey is the best position player in ATLANTA history. He did not have the average but he was a gold glove fielder, 2 time MVP and the ultimate hustler. And he played on garbage teams.

Jason Foster

August 12th, 2010
12:29 pm

Those of you saying the Braves can’t recover should recall the 1999 club. That team played the whole season with their top run producer (Andres Galarraga, cancer) and 30-save closer Kerry Ligtenberg (Tommy John surgery), played the second half without Javy Lopez in his prime (torn ACL) and had John Smoltz pitching hurt for the second half (eventually requiring surgery that caused him to miss the 2000 season). The point is, times like this are trying but they allow others to step up. I’m sure this Braves bunch can figure out how to move forward and stay competitive.

I Hate Troy Glaus (formerly I Hate Liberty Media)

August 12th, 2010
12:29 pm

Joey,

It’s just a name. I don’t hate anyone except maybe you.

joemoedee

August 12th, 2010
12:30 pm

Glaus moved to first because he can’t physically play third, so that’s out. Hinske can play 3B, as can Conrad, Infante and Prado. Also there’s a chance to make a post wavier trade for 3B, but I don’t think there’s too many great options out there.

Ty Wiggington comes to mind. Price tag on Bautista is too high, as the Blue Jays are selling him like he’s always hit like he has this year. Good ole Kelly Johnson is an option for 2B, sliding Prado to 3B.

The options MLBTraderumors are saying are: Aramis Ramirez, Pedro Feliz, Wes Helms, Adam Kennedy, Jose Lopez, Brandon Inge, Jhonny Peralta, Ty Wigginton, Edwin Encarnacion and Willie Bloomquist are among the third basemen who could clear waivers this month. The Mariners tried to engage the Braves on Chone Figgins last month, so perhaps Jack Zduriencik will call Frank Wren to see if the Braves are interested now.

None really excite me except maybe Figgins or Aramis Ramirez. After terrible starts, both have been pretty decent over the past month or so.

Robert

August 12th, 2010
12:31 pm

A shame if this is how Chipper’s career ends

Tommy

August 12th, 2010
12:31 pm

Hey “Glaus to 3rd” retards…it’s not going to happen!!!

Pudge

August 12th, 2010
12:31 pm

They way Infante’s been swingin the bat, Bobby was going to have to find a way to keep him in the lineup when Martin comes off the DL anyway. If you put Infante at 3B, I don’t think you’ve lost much defensively over Chipper. The biggest loss is Chipper’s leadership in the clubhouse and his playoff experience. That can’t be easily replaced.

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ShaunC

August 12th, 2010
12:31 pm

Does this injury make Chipper re-think retirement and collect his check through 2012? Lord knows two knee surgeries probably entitle him to do so.

Fire, not retire Bobby Cox

August 12th, 2010
12:31 pm

Glaus needs to see a shrink to find out what’s wrong with his head.

JJ

August 12th, 2010
12:32 pm

Terrible news for Chipper – yes, but let’s not act like this is a huge loss to the Braves chances to make the postseason. They are in first place with what amounts to a huge hole in the 3 spot of their lineup that has been a hole all season long. Chipper was a great player in his day, but he’d turned into a 7 hole hitter (at best) by now. His defense has been equally shaky.

Yes, he was starting to hit better (which Joe Simpson reminded us of every time he came up to bat), but he still wasn’t doing anything from a run production standpoint.

Again – sad for Chipper and his career, but not a big loss for the Braves. More of a loss for the bench, as either Conrad or Infante will now be an everyday player.

[...] diagnosis is a torn ACL and it appears Chipper Jones is headed for season ending surgery. Although the report says that Jones may seek a second opinion it would appear to be the worst case [...]

Johnny3Steps

August 12th, 2010
12:33 pm

Maybe he could just PINCH HIT ,but if not get well and have a strong year next year. This could be a great opportunity for Brooks Conrad. Get well Chipper……………..Team needs you.

Fire, not retire Bobby Cox

August 12th, 2010
12:33 pm

They will still have Chipper’s leadership in the dugout. He just own’t be playing.

Nut Job

August 12th, 2010
12:33 pm

People…Seriously…Glaus to 3rd base? Get a clue. All you’re doing is telling the rest of us that know baseball that you are an idiot.

Glaus can barely tie his shoes. The ONLY place he can possibly play is 1st. You have to have range to play 3rd. Glaus fell over the other night trying to field a ground ball hit about a foot to his right. This guy has butchered at least 6 pick off throws because he can’t move to catch them. How in the world can he play on the hot corner?

CSpin

August 12th, 2010
12:34 pm

Yeah c’mon folks, Glaus to third is a bad idea. I’d love to see the Prado/Infante combo at 3rd and 2nd

athdog

August 12th, 2010
12:34 pm

We can compete with Brooks playing third for a week until Prado comes back. With Prado/Infante at third and Infante/Prado at second, we’ll be better offensively and defensively. Hate to see it for Chip, for sure, but we’ll be a better baseball team because of it.

TOM GLAVINE

August 12th, 2010
12:34 pm

Hey Chipper,
Sorry dude.
Just remember- after u do your surgery,rehab,and then play in a few games @Rome and@Gwinnett
Frank Wren will call u up,bring u to the TED two hours before game time and tell u to get f***ing lost.

Dr.Who

August 12th, 2010
12:34 pm

Steroids will catch with you sometimes..Washed-up anyway!

Georgia Pete

August 12th, 2010
12:34 pm

Just when he was making a comeback. tragic…Tragic

josh

August 12th, 2010
12:35 pm

To all the people what are posting that Glaus needs to play 3rd base, What the hell are you smoking? Maybe it is the Atlanta smog. The man can barley run. Yes once he gets going he is ok, but do you really think he can play third on one leg? Let’s face it. Chipper’s defense was a liability. His bat will be missed. Now that Cox has no choice, I think by putting our best bat 3rd in the order may make up for his bat. Either way, Bobby Cox is still the manager. If we had 9 chippers in the line up, Cox could still find a way to piss it away.

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Brownie

August 12th, 2010
12:36 pm

OK, first of all, Donny Corleone just had one of the great lines of all time re: Glaus riding his Hoveround out to third base.

For those who want FF called up right away….don’t count on it. He WILL come up when rosters expand, but not sooner.

Bobby is gonna ride with Glaus platooning at first base with Hinske until that time, or until Glaus just falls apart like in the final scene with Goldie Hawn and Meryl Streep in “Death Becomes Her”.

Dr. Igor Grodninzsky

August 12th, 2010
12:36 pm

Russian have quick cure for bum knee. Fix up Chipper in 5 day. Involve secret growth hormones develop by KGB. One shot all he need. Call Moscow office.

wiki

August 12th, 2010
12:37 pm

They’ll get a 3B in some kind of waiver deal. Book on it. We may have to lose one of our prospects.

Fourbee

August 12th, 2010
12:37 pm

I’ve been as tough as anyone in criticising Chipper and his horrendous defense and hitting (earlier in the season), but I don’t want him to go out this way. For all his not run out grounders, all his GIDP and all his errors, I would rather have him ride into the sunset with Bobby and Wags so that we can all wish him well and say that he had a fitting end to a glorious career. Even though I’m tough on the players, sometimes, I still wish the best for them.
Tough luck, Chipper. You will be sorely missed!

TheNCBravesFan

August 12th, 2010
12:37 pm

Solution: Move Glaus back to 3rd base, his old position, and bring up Freeman for 1st base. Don’t do anything else. No Stupid Trades! Glaus can then concentrate on hitting!

Tater the Bobby Hater

August 12th, 2010
12:37 pm

Chipper has been the face of the Braves in more ways than one this year. He has either been hot and showing some spark of his former self, or cold and riding the bench with some injury or another. He has been Mr. Inconsistent, just as the Braves have been Team Inconsistent.

Oh well, every sports career must come to an end. Too bad that he can’t take Cox with him. Then maybe the Braves might have a chance in the post-season.

Steven Lemon

August 12th, 2010
12:38 pm

Dear cHase Utley;
You will only be world champs again if the YANKEES don’t make the World Series!
Cliff Lee couldnt save you last year and even Halladay and Oswalt can save you this year.
Besides, what’s this I hear about Ryan Howard being injured?

Falcons Fan

August 12th, 2010
12:38 pm

Win one for the SKIPPER and CHIPPER!!! Sad news indeed but we can’t give away a season. I still have faith in these Bravos!!! Let’s go Braves!!!

everydamnyear

August 12th, 2010
12:38 pm

Glaus back to 3rd, Hinske at 1st from here on out!

Vick=Dog killing Thug

August 12th, 2010
12:39 pm

good luck to Chipper….

Fire, not retire Bobby Cox

August 12th, 2010
12:39 pm

Good post Tater!

Aubrey

August 12th, 2010
12:40 pm

Braves need to get Casey Blake – LA Dodgers 3rd Baseman.

KnightInATL

August 12th, 2010
12:40 pm

Some of you morons need to get a grip about Glaus going back to 3B. The guy can barely bend over to tie his own shoes. No way he can handle the hot corner anymore. Prado to 3B, Infante to 2B.

LittleRockBravesFan

August 12th, 2010
12:40 pm

This is horrible news, but thank goodness we have options. There’s of course Conrad, or Infante, and I heard that Prado can play an excellent 3rd base. Losing Chipper will definitely hurt though, but as scrappy and resilient as this team has been, I have confidence that they’ll rise to the occasion.

Clarence

August 12th, 2010
12:40 pm

Frank Wren: Convert K.K. to a third baseman–he ain’t doing nothing anyway. Might as well get something for the millions you’re paying him.

Fire, not retire Bobby Cox

August 12th, 2010
12:41 pm

Will you people please read previous posts! Glaus can’t play 3rd because of his knees!!!!!

Boonie

August 12th, 2010
12:41 pm

Chip if this is it….THANKS for all the memories.

Prado will slide over to 3B and Infante will continue to play 2B. Wren will probably try to snag someone like Wigginton off the waiver wire.

Dick Doss

August 12th, 2010
12:41 pm

chipper should retire coming back next year with out bobby just doesnt seem right

Atlanta Dawg

August 12th, 2010
12:41 pm

I was afraid this is what it was. I’ve been a Chipper fan since he was drafted and played down at Luther Williams Field in Macon, GA. I was able to watch him play his first game and fortunately was able to watch a lot more at Fulton County and Turner Field. If this truly is the end, which I think it is, we’ll see you in Cooperstown in 5 years. Thanks for being the heart of this team and showing the younger players that you can play for the same team for your career if you take the greed out of the situation.

You move Prado or Infante to 3B and play the other at 2B. bat them 1 and 2 and move JHEY to 3rd in the order where he will be for the forseeable futre. You have 2 table setters at the top and a contact hitter in the 3rd spot with power. Give Glaus 1 more week to see if he is starting to come out of it and if not, then you call up Freeman and start platooning the two.

I Hate Troy Glaus (formerly I Hate Liberty Media)

August 12th, 2010
12:42 pm

At first I was surprised to read all the suggestions that Glaus be moved back to third base. Then I remembered the time when I was scoring a game at Turner Field and was asked by the fans next to me why I’d brought my work to the game.

Don

August 12th, 2010
12:43 pm

People can walk around and play some sports with torn ACLs, it just depends on the particulars. It sounds like it would be worth a try to have Chipper try playing with a brace. Chipper in a brace would be better than Glaus at 3rd base!

ATLcracker

August 12th, 2010
12:44 pm

“let the hall of fame debate begin”? I don’t think there is a debate – five years from now first ballot hall of fame for sure!

Moving on...

August 12th, 2010
12:44 pm

Chipper will be missed, but… CALL UP FREEMAN TO PLAY 1ST, MOVE GLAUS TO 3RD. NOW!

Tommy

August 12th, 2010
12:44 pm

Problem solved: Let’s move McCann to 3rd. Move Glaus into the closer role. Let Chipper’s good knee play CF and Bobby Cox’s knee replacement can play 1st.

So many retarded Braves fans!!! It’s embarrassing really.

john

August 12th, 2010
12:44 pm

Chipper –

THANKS

Like millions of others,I have enjoyed your many years of outstanding play for our Braves, even tolerated those few when you “slipped” on and off the Field – you always came back, including these past months.

Hank Aaron and Chipper Jones will be Legends in Atlanta and Baseball forever.

Got one more “come-back’ in 2011 ?

John Smoltz

August 12th, 2010
12:45 pm

You may see Chipper in Cooperstown in 5 years to see me get my plaque. He is not a first ballot man. Put him in the class of Andre Dawson. Third baseman this day and age will not get in on the first ballot with his defense and lest than 500 Home runs. And less than 3000 hits.

charles barkley

August 12th, 2010
12:45 pm

turrribbblllle

John Smoltz

August 12th, 2010
12:46 pm

ATLcracker

Debate on: 3rd Ballot

BravesFanLostInOhio

August 12th, 2010
12:46 pm

Aweful for Chipper, and I HATE it for him (and those of us who still liked watching him play). But, we can still win.

Moving Glaus back to 3B is wishful thinking. Yes, he used to be great at 3Bm, but he now lacks the agility needed for the hot corner. He isn’t moving well laterally (check out the pickoff throws to first that have gotten by him) and he lacks the agility and speed to make the charging throw, which any good 3B needs to be able to do.

On the other hand, Prado is excellent at 3B. And, Infante can finally play every day (staying at 2B).

Finally, someone said they hate to see Chipper go out this way. I disagree wholeheartedly. Chipper went out looking like the player we know, not a shadow of his former self. He was swinging the bat well, and his (potentially) last play was a gem, one that we would remember him by.

Chipper, you gave us your whole heart, and your knee twice. Thank you.

azbravofan

August 12th, 2010
12:47 pm

Can Hinske still play third?

Duluth Tiger

August 12th, 2010
12:48 pm

DOB,

What are the chances we would bring up Wes Timmons from Gwinnett? He is having a pretty good year and he has some pop in his bat.

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