2:15 pm August 11, 2010, by David O'Brien
August 13th, 20108:42 am
NEWCARS, If Glaus became injured and had to be put on the DL the Braves would be able to bring Freeman regardless. The rule is If an eligible player is injured and unable to play a club can call up any player in the organization regardless of their roster status as long as the replacement player plays the same position (position player for position player and pitcher for pitcher) the replacement player would have to have been in the organization as of the August 31st deadline.
Brian from SC
August 13th, 20108:48 am
NEW CARS, Freeman has to be on the 25-man roster ON August 31st to be eligible for the postseason. So they can’t just bring him up for a couple days…he has to be on the active roster on that date.
Crazytrademan, you’re right…but to further clarify, they would have to put Glaus on the 60-day DL.
August 13th, 20109:07 am
Goal-setting time. The Braves have played the fewest home games in the NL, and as we all know, have the best home record. That starts to balance out tonight, as the Braves play 14 of their next 20 at Turner Field. Four against the Dodgers, 3 against Washington, 3 at Chicago, 3 in Colorado, then back home for three against Florida and 4 against New York.
Give me 13-7 over those 20 games. Some guys are going to have to start swinging the bats, but this is not a particularly difficult stretch, particularly as far as opponents’ pitching goes. The Mets are 5th in the NL in ERA, the Marlins are 7th, the Dodgers are 9th, the Rockies are 10th, the Nationals are 11th, and the Cubs are 12th.
Over the same stretch, the Phillies play the Mets on the road, the Giants, Nats, and Astros at home, then a west coast trip to San Diego, LA, and a one-game stop in Colorado. I’m counting on the Phillies losing at least four of those games out west and going 11-9 in their 20-games stretch.
So I’d like a 13-7 record over the next 20 games, and a 4-game lead at the end of games on September 2nd.
August 13th, 20109:09 am
Brian from SC, Right. If He was going to miss the playoffs they would put him on the 60 day DL regardless of the injury so Freeman could play. If it was for just a 15 day DL during Sept. Freeman could come up and play for that period but, wouldn’t be eligible for the post season.
August 13th, 20109:11 am
nobody has a better win loss record at home of 39-15 than the Braves!!
August 13th, 20109:14 am
I woke up today still feeling so sad about Chipper. Now everytime I go into my son’s room I have to look at his big Chipper poster on the wall and it just brings it up again! Even if he says he’s done today, I won’t believe it because it’s still too soon. He should talk to Brian Finneran of the Falcons who’s come back from 2 torn ACL’s to the same knee. I want him back but that’s up to him, of course. Now it really is win one for the Chipper and Skipper. I think we’re fine with Martin at 3rd and Omar at short. Brooksie can back them both up. Maybe they can add more depth for the bench somehow. Someone said Craig Counsell, is he really available, he’d be great. Sounds like bad weather this weekend, hope they get the games in. Go Braves.
also no team has had less runs scored against them in the national league east then they Braves have they have only allowed 432 and heres the rest
August 13th, 20109:15 am
I meant to say Omar at 2nd, oops.
I don’t attend games that often so when I watched Chipper hit a home run last Friday I thought that might be the last time I see him homer live. Little did I think it would his last.
I’m wondering if Infante and Conrad platoon at third. Conrad is a better hitter from the left side of the plate.
From the Braves perspective, what do they do during the off-season if Chipper tries to re-hab? They can’t sit idle for six months during the recovery process.
August 13th, 20109:26 am
in hindsight, maybe we should have traded for bautista along with gonzalez before the all-star break.
August 13th, 20109:32 am
DOB- will the Bravos get insurance $ for Chipper?
August 13th, 20109:35 am
Here’s an idea:
Put Chipper on the 15 day DL and have him come back and play. I ripped my ACL in half 33 years ago. I hobbled for a week or so. Then all was fine. 10 years later an orthopedic doctor told me I had no ACL in my right knee, and I could have surgery, but, “at your age (29 at the time) you don’t really need it.” I’ve dislocated it maybe 7 or 8 times over these 33 years, and each time hobbled for another week. But I’ve played basketball, soccer, touch football, golf, been biking–it’s never a problem. If Chipper was 23, and wanted to make sure he had no problems for the rest of his career, that’s one thing, but geez, he’s almost retired. Just strap it back on and play, Chip. Tell the doctors you’ll have the surgery after you retire. Then, if he led us to the World Series, that would be a story.
I hope that at least they’ve considered this idea.
August 13th, 20109:42 am
Freddie Freeman is on fire.
For the season: .303/.366/.503/.868
He’s on a 25 HR/162G pace. And, and for those interested, he’s on a 110 RBI/162G pace.
He also appears to be potentially a high strike-out guy. He’s on pace for about 100 k’s/162G. That’s Kelsko style hitting right there. Actually, He’s got a better track record so far than Kelsko did.
From 1994 to 1999 Kelsko averaged .283/.362/.527/.889 and 23 HR a year (OPS+ of 127) in the majors. Amazing how good Kelsko looks in retro spect. I never thought too highly of the guy back when the Big three where there along with Justice, Chipper, McGriff, Belliard… you know, the big guns.
August 13th, 20109:43 am
In hindsight yes, but they wanted way too much (supposedly) for Bautista…or he would’ve went somewhere, not necessarily ATL…
I still feel like A-Ram is a feasible option because we know he’d clear waivers and I still don’t fully believe he would exercise his option…
Say he does though, how bad could that really be having a guy who has hit 36, 31, 38, 26, and 27 home runs in 5 of the last 6 seasons and having 90+ RBI in 7 different seasons (100+ in 6 of those), along with an average around .300 every year since 2003 (taking out this yrs outlier).
The only real concern is his fielding…as he does cover a lot of ground but tends to airmail throws.
He is only 32 I might add, so he has quite a bit left…
So if Chipper comes off the books, and other players come off the books, then why not give him a shot, even if he exercised his option?
His career averages : .282/.341/.498/.839 36 2b 30 hr 108 rbi
The only line that stands out that is nowhere near Chippers is the .341 OBP.
Other than that, all his career numbers stand close to that of Chipper, only difference, he’s 32 and still putting up around the 30 HR when healthy.
I think it would be a really good buy low move with the Braves only having to give a couple ’specs from the lower levels.
So, once again I ask, why not?
August 13th, 20109:45 am
Talk about disrespect, on si.com, it says Pirates place Gonzalez on waivers, I click in it to see who it is, and it is Mike Gonzalez ….doesnt he play for the Orioles
August 13th, 20109:46 am
Because the Braves don’t want to pay him over 30 million dollars over two years. Even if he returned to his normal production, which I doubt, they can’t afford that. Unless you think Liberty’s going to push the payroll up past 100 million, it ain’t gonna happen.
August 13th, 20109:47 am
what’s even more amazing is that I can consistently misspell Klesko in that post..
That gave me a good laugh for my early morning work day
August 13th, 20109:49 am
IF you have insurance to cover Chippers loss, or Chipper is gone, plus more money coming off the payroll, PLUS having a budget that is already far below what last years operating budget was, how is it not feasible?
August 13th, 20109:50 am
BrianSC: Unless you think Liberty’s going to push the payroll up past 100 million, it ain’t gonna happen.
The Braves expanded payroll this year from $97M to $87M. So it stands to reason that they will expand payroll again next year from the current $87M to about $77M. Sure it may not look like expansion, but with the way the Braves value contracts and some other fancy accounting gimmicks they use, less is in fact actually more.
August 13th, 20109:51 am
Yeah, I always LOVE the “less is more” gimmick…
Basically put, its Liberty’s way to try and turn a slight profit and pocket some cash on the way out the door…
August 13th, 20109:53 am
also, i cant believe the dodgers bullpen coughed up a 7 run lead last night. talk about an implosion.
August 13th, 20109:55 am
i can’t help but think that phillies win last night was a bad omen.
August 13th, 20109:57 am
10paul He also appears to be potentially a high strike-out guy. He’s on pace for about 100 k’s/162G.
100Ks really isnt bad. i wouldnt classify that as a high strikeout guy these days.
August 13th, 20109:58 am
The Phils win last night was certainly a bad omen…
-In the same day Chipper goes down for the year publicly, the Phils make a 2 inning 8 run comeback to cut our lead to 2 games…
We are now searching for the answer this morning, hoping and praying that Bobby and Frank come up with something to help continue to stay in first place, but now knowing that the Dodgers are going to be p*ssed off and come into town with a chip…
Hopefully we find the right answer either today or by the end of the weekend, or it could be a LONG end to the summer for all of us.
August 13th, 201010:00 am
Why not give Freeman a chance and play him even if it is just for one week – and see what happens – instead of playing Glaus on and on and on not producing. Who knows – Freeman might or might not produce – But what do the Braves have to lose by giving him a chance for a few days to see what happens.
P-Town…Aramis Ramirez will make over 30 million dollars the next two years. He is very unlikely to be even worth a third of that. Do you not understand how foolish it would be to take that sort of gamble when we have payroll limitations? Wouldn’t you rather spend 20 million dollars on a better player, which is not only possible, but probable?
August 13th, 201010:02 am
Anybody watch the Phillies-Dodgers last night….Brutal
August 13th, 201010:03 am
Not too worried about the Dodgers and Phillies. The Braves just need to keep winning.
August 13th, 201010:05 am
The Phils win last night was certainly a bad omen…
Did someone hit the doom and gloom button already?
The game last night was a bad omen for the Dodgers and their play-off chances, had nothing to do with the Braves.
Is Wes Timmons on the 40 man? The guy has a .400 OBP and 19 SB. Why not give him a shot?
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
Trey I was kidding about the weight, McFann! Now Wickman was fat.
Oh, I know. I was kiddin’ back atcha!
Neight Simply just a guy that can play defense, run and hit the damn ball consistently from the cleanup spot in the order, allowing Mac to bat where he should be batting, which is in the 5-hole.
That’s exactly what I would like!
DAP: i wouldnt classify that as a high strikeout guy these days.
I would. I refuse to let the onslaught of SABRmetrics justify flailing futility.
Braves greats like Tommy Holmes would be ashamed.
August 13th, 201010:07 am
Some food for thought. The Eastern division is very much attainable and the Braves can hold off the Phillies. If not, they still have a very good shot at the wild card. Probably will have to hold off the Giants and Reds. Both of these teams will play more games on the road than at home(Reds still have to go out West and the Giants still go East). All 3 teams including Braves end season with 6 home games. No shame in wild card and whatever it takes to play baseball in October. Just win baby.
August 13th, 201010:08 am
The Braves already have a better internal option for the starting spot in Infante. What they’d be replacing is Infante’s backup role, so they want more of a defensive player who can play at other infield positions. Hicks is the guy.
Actually those teams both will have more road games in September.
August 13th, 201010:09 am
The Phils win last night was certainly a bad omen…but now knowing that the Dodgers are going to be p*ssed off and come into town with a chip…
With that performance last night, I think it shows that chip or not, the Dodgers don’t have what they need to make it. I think it’s a good Omen for the Braves. The team with the most last at-bat wins… The team coming to town is melting down in the oppositions last at bats.
Guess it all depends on how you look at it.
Oh I agree Brian, I am not really worried about the Phillies, I mean you for them it was great to have an 8 run come back, but the point is they were in that position to begin with
August 13th, 201010:11 am
For example, if they were confident that Chipper’s salary wouldn’t be on the books, they could sign Cantu to 2 years at 16-18 million or so. And every team in baseball would take that over 2 years and 30 million for Aramis Ramirez.
August 13th, 201010:13 am
We both know thats not going to happen…
The Braves will bring in another Troy Glaus who is about 4-5 years past it…
So, I guess neither of us would be right…
As TP says, they won’t spend money, and they won’t get better players…
I guess we’re lucky we have a good farm system, or we’d probably be the Orioles
August 13th, 201010:14 am
Brian, would you rather have Cantu or Uggla
That might work except that would give the Braves the 30th ranked defensive starting 3b in baseball…
Oh yes, I love my Wrennies!! You guys think I love Doubles, well…
But I love all the other birds, too–though some are pesty. Hummingbirds are high on m list…especially that baby, Peeps!!
Hope your Mom is doing well! I’ll say some prayers for her…and you.
noleeee better talk to McFann about her wrens then hag
Always available to talk about the Wrennies.
August 13th, 201010:15 am
TenPaul- I agree. I watched the Phillies’ game last night and while I wasn’t thrilled they had won, the prospect of the Braves facing that Dodgers’ pen filled me with warmth and fuzzy feelings. They looked terrible and not really able t get outs.
Given the Braves’ proclivity for late inning comebacks and the punishment of opposing bullpens,,,,,,,,Let’s play some baseball.
Can I interject here…
I would rather have Uggla at 2b and Prado at 3b, but that also would never happen as the Fish would absolutely rape us just to give us a player…
I mean cmon…they supposedly wanted Medlen, Dunn, and Johnson just for Cody FREAKIN Ross!!
GTSteve, definitely Uggla. The Marlins have him under control for another year, though, so we’d have to give up a nice package to pry him away, then probably lose him to free agency after 2010.
August 13th, 201010:16 am
I love Peeps…
Especially if you put them in the microwave for a few seconds…YUM
August 13th, 201010:17 am
Brian, Timmons looks sort of like Gregor Blanco without as much speed and with less defensive value. His career minor league slugging is lower than his on-base. It’s pretty amazing that he has 1.6 walks for every strikeout. But that’s really his only skill. He can’t hit the ball with any authority and, while he’s a good basestealer, he doesn’t seem to be an amazing one. He probably is perfectly capable of being a 5th infielder, though, on a major league team.
August 13th, 201010:18 am
Keep your eyes on this one this winter…
GO DODGER BLUE SWEEEEEEEEEEP THE BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P-town, yeah that is what i was thinking, with Uggla at 2nd and Prado at 3rd….I thought Uggla was a free agent after this year, obviously not, I must have been thinking about Cantu
August 13th, 201010:20 am
And Lew, yeah I was thinking the same thing about the dodgers bullpen last night
Chop Chop, thanks for the compliment yesterday. (I hope you were not being sarcastic.) I would love a baseball front office job…me and about a million other dudes.
No, Marshmallow Peeps are amazing…I never tried microwaving them–I’ll have to remember that!
Right, Shaun…very much like Blanco. Plate discipline is his primary skill, but doesn’t have much of a bat otherwise. I would call him a better hitter than Hicks, but they’re looking for Hicks’ defense and versatility.
August 13th, 201010:21 am
I am going to remember your 13-7 number. The last time you gave a target, we ended up pretty close and this time too, it seems quite realistic. Lets hope it works out that way.I’m hoping we can get atleast one of those series swept, but I guess we can afford 1 loss in each series. We’ll see. Exciting nonetheless.
August 13th, 201010:23 am
HAS BOB HORNER SIGNED AS OF YET?????????????????????
August 13th, 201010:24 am
–Did someone hit the doom and gloom button already?
not at all, just pointing out that the phils seem to have everything working in their favor right now and the braves..well don’t
doesn’t mean i don’t still like our chances.
August 13th, 201010:27 am
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August 13th, 201010:29 am
You know all the Braves have to do is play better than two of these teams over the next month and a half: Phillies, Cardinals, Reds, Padres, Giants. Pick any two.
They really are in very good position. I admit, though, that home field sure would be nice, for the first round, at least.
August 13th, 201010:30 am
Here’s the problem I see with Uggla. He’s kind of a rich man’s Marcus Giles. He’s slightly overrated because he’s not a great on-base guy. His only truly great skill is his power, which is fine. But his body type and skill set seem to indicate a rather sharp and quick decline; and he’ll be 31 by Opening Day next season.
August 13th, 201010:31 am
No gloom and doom here, got Huddy going tonight
Yeah, I wouldn’t want Uggla long-term, but for next year he’d probably be a great fit. It’s just that the price would be very high for a 1-year rental.
August 13th, 201010:32 am
Have to admit, give Charlie Manuel big credit last night. He is probably the only manager to have Ruiz not bunt in that situation. If he grounds into doubleplay I can only imagine what Philly fans say today. Lot of cahunas to make that decision.
Ease™ in Sandy Springs
August 13th, 201010:33 am
This was before McFann’s time, but this team showed true grit…defined it actually…
August 13th, 201010:34 am
ITS A SHAME CHIPPER DID NOT GO DOWN BEFORE THE JULY 31 TRADING DEADLINE THAT AWAY THE BRAVES COULD HAVE BEEN SELLERS NOW THEY HAVE TO KEEP THIS TEAM TOGETHER BEFORE TRADING EVERYONE IN OFFSEASON
August 13th, 201010:35 am
Microwaved Peeps? As a LOF, I’m not sure if that’s sacrilege or a really cool idea.
THE PHILLIES ARE THE BEST ORGANIZATION IN PRO SPORTS. 2 WORLD SERIES WINS, 7 PENNANTS, 12 PLAYOFF APPERANCES AND 10216 LOSSES IN THE HISTORY OF OUR FRANCHISE. 127 YEARS OF OPERATION. SUCK ON THAT BRAVES FANS
August 13th, 201010:36 am
Phillies doiuche-You’re flying high after facing the Dodgers, bt you finiish the season against us and we have a winning record over you and much, much better pitching than the Dodgers have.
You’re going nowhere – the Phillies, that is. You’ve been nowhere all of your life.
August 13th, 201010:38 am
Thanks for the video Ease, I remember that one
August 13th, 201010:40 am
Lew – You took the bait. He couldn’t stand it for no one to respond. That’s why the comments keep getting more outragious. The best answer is none at all, and just smile because we are still in first place.
Phils08….It’s funny, you were nowhere to be found while the Phils were getting smacked last night. Keep trying to score 10 runs every night loser. Blanton looked really sharp again yesterday, good move getting rid of Lee and giving fat boy Blanton a contract.
August 13th, 201010:42 am
GOING NOWHERE?? HUM WHO WON THE WS IN 2008, WHO HAS BEEN 2 THE LAST 2 WS AND BIDDING TO BE THE FIRST NL TEAM SINCE 76-77-78 REDS TO BE IN 3 STRAIGHT WS, WHO HAS WON THE LAST 3 DIV TITLES, THATS RITE THE PHILLIES, REMEMBER TO BE THE MAN YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE MAN, SO GO BEAT YOUR MEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Phillies. Great franchise, but worst fans in all of baseball. Everyone knows it, especially the players.
Go puke on yourself.
August 13th, 201010:43 am
raleighbravesfan-The day I let Trolls rule is a long way off. It’s nothing more than a way to blow off steam and frustration – Giving them crap works better than the Braves’ Vent.
Good news is now we don’t have to worry anymore about the Mets OR the Dodgers. Is there a worse bullpen in MLB right now? Even worse than the Phillies and Mets.
August 13th, 201010:44 am
PHILS WONT USE BLANTON IN POSTSEASON GOING TO A 3 MAN ROTATION HALLADAY,HAMELS,OSWALD, BEST 3 IN GAME JUST LIKE YANKS DID LAST YEAR IN POSTSEASON,
August 13th, 201010:45 am
RUNNIN VERY CLASSY DO YOU TALK TO YOUR MOTHER THAT WAY?????????
August 13th, 201010:46 am
Do not feed the trolls!
August 13th, 201010:47 am
I don’t disagree. It’s not as bad as listening to Braves “fans” like Don with the negative rants. I just consider the source. It’s like going to a home ballgame, and having some drunk, ignorant @hole behind you mouthing off.
August 13th, 201010:48 am
BY MID SEPT WHEN BRAVES OUT OF WILD-CARD THIS WILL BE A PHILLIES SITE
Phillies’ Douche- Comparisons to the Big Red Machine are totally Ludicrous (go use a dictionary). The only reason the Phillies even won in 08 is because our entire rotation was disabled, leaving you with no competition except the Mets. And as for last year? How many times have we been told that if you don’t win the Series you ain’;t nothing?
Even if by some wild chance out of hell, you make it as the Wild Card, you won’t advance past the first round with half a rotation and that non existent bullpen.
Dream ON moron., Like I said- nowhere is exactly where the Philies are going and where you’ll be locked in a lifelong pursuit of futlilty in your attempt for the unattainable goal of mediocrity, which would be a massive improvement..
August 13th, 201010:49 am
Phils won’t use Blanton in postseason, because they won’t make it. WC will be Giants. They will spend the offseason thinking about all those old guys they have signed to big $$$$ contracts.
August 13th, 201010:50 am
ESPN has a short post up about Chipper’s career numbers. I found this quote to be particularly interesting:
“A team of nine players with career numbers of Chipper Jones would win nearly 72 percent of the time, by way of Bill James Offensive Winning Percentage metric. By comparison, a team comprised of nine Alex Rodriguez’s would win 70 percent of the time.”
Makes you appreciate exactly what we have had all these years…
Phils08…. Braves top 3 starters are just as good, if not better than yours. Plus, you have some work to do before you can worry about a playoff rotation. If your team is so good, why does Halladau have 8 losses??
August 13th, 201010:53 am
NOW THAT CHIPPER IS GONE THERE IS NO ONE ON BRAVES W/ ANY KIND OF POSTSEASON EXP EX MAYBE YOUR RELIEF PITCHER FROM KC 16,00 ERA AND HINSKI AND BILLY WAGNER HAS NEVER EVER WON ANYTHING IN HIS LIFE NOT EVEN LITTLE LEAGUE
if this will be a phillies site in mid sept, where will you go? based on the amount of time you spend here, i’m guessing they aren’t very accepting of closet braves fans on phillies boards.
August 13th, 201010:54 am
Oswalt is good come postseason but Halladay would choke come playoff time…
Too bad you guys won’t see it this year…
Maybe you should’ve kept Cliff Lee, he’ll be pitching in the postseason…
EARLY ON NO RIN SUPPORT CHECK IS ERA MORON
August 13th, 201010:56 am
PHILS WILL SEE CLIFF LEE IN WS AS IT WILL BE PHILLIES OVER THE RANGERS IN 6 GAMES GO PHILLIES————————–
phils80-08wschamps – Learn to type moron.
No, correction…Wags didn’t win in Philly because they sucked…
Also, what does postseason experience have to do with it?!
Halladay doesn’t have any either…maybe you should be scared…
BTW, um we have a starting pitcher named Derek Lowe that has plenty of postseason experience, including a ring…
Being a moron is very easy isn’t it Phils?
I would like to thank the troll for keeping his posts in all caps…really saves me time by knowing which ones to not read.
August 13th, 201010:57 am
Oh, and just so we’re clear, Alex Gonzalez has a ring as well…
Enyour comments here SORRY GANG HAVE TO GO MAYBE ILL COME BACK TONIGHT REMEMBER A PHILS WIN IS A WIN WIN FOR EVERONE!!!!!!!
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
I’m sorry but this team is not the Atlanta Braves without Chipper Jones. You can insert whoever you want and throw all the stats around you want… Especially with the way he was playing of late… This is devestating. I hope this is not the end. And I would be sick if they won the WS without him on the active roster… Don’t get me wrong I still want them to win obviously, but it would sicken me.
August 13th, 201010:58 am
No rin support? Would Dr. Scholls perhaps be of some help with that? Maybe he should be gellin’…
The Phillies franchise has been one of the worst operating franchises in baseball for most of its existence. So it’s very understandable how there fans can become so big headed after only 3 years of success. The douche juice is flowing steadily from Philly these days and the phils80-08wschamps guy is a perfect example of this.
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