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David O'Brien
August 11th, 2010
5:34 pm
Braves have three pinch-hit grand slams this season, two by Brooks Conrad before today’s by McCann…
Braves won the series despite making multiple errors in all 3 games, 8 total. They had 2 today to give them 20 in their past 12 games…
wjones
August 11th, 2010
5:36 pm
“Katherine
August 11th, 2010
5:16 pm
I have no faith in farnsworth….not from what i’ve seen so far and from what he did with the braves in the past.”
In response:
1. In the past, yes, Farnsworth had an awful playoff game against the Astros in 2005, costing us pretty much the Division Series. Going into the post season, he did not have a blown save. So did you trust him when he got us into the playoffs? We very likely would have not gotten there without him.
2. Did you enjoy Chavez when he pitched for us this year? I don’t know about you, but several people hated Chavez and wanted him gone. The Braves complied; they sent him to hell (or Kansas City, as some refer it) and came back with Farnsworth. Seemed at the time a good swap, and I believe it will be proved before the year is out.
3. I don’t like Farnsworth personally as a player, would never be a member of his fan club, but I think he is a solid pickup. Throws hard, will pitch often, will save wear and tear on the bullpen hopefully. Give him a couple of games and let’s see how this turns out. I know 98% of the blog denizens wanted us to make a move. We did; let’s sit back and see how it works out, and maybe just avoid being so reactionary. I know it’s difficult.
Scott from Fairburn
August 11th, 2010
5:37 pm
Great piece on the irrationality of Frenchy … a legend in his own mind:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/08/how-reasonable-are-jeff-francoeurs-demands.html
Chop Chop
August 11th, 2010
5:37 pm
The Braves are now 18 games over .500 for the first time since 2005.
kneecap
August 11th, 2010
5:37 pm
Katherine: Farnsy sux.
U got it right.
BravesFanChris25
August 11th, 2010
5:39 pm
Let’s go Dodgers! Sweep the Phillies please
Chop Chop
August 11th, 2010
5:39 pm
The Braves have officially clinched the NL East, giving Bobby Cox his 15th division title as Braves manager.
dylan
August 11th, 2010
5:39 pm
Last team to hit 3 PH GRAND SLAMS was in 1984? Baltimore Orioles…
TennesseePaul
August 11th, 2010
5:40 pm
Braves won the series despite making multiple errors in all 3 games, 8 total. They had 2 today to give them 20 in their past 12 games…
Brutal. Just brutal.
Chop Chop
August 11th, 2010
5:41 pm
10Paul,
This season would appear to be Bobby’s big “F U” to all the statheads. The team just cannot be beaten. It matters not what they do.
Tomas
August 11th, 2010
5:42 pm
In what world is Frenchy living in???? The only thing he can provide consistently is quality defense, everything else is extremely inconsistent.
Gone Viral
August 11th, 2010
5:43 pm
“the Braves have been thriving on great luck”
You say luck, I say resilience.
hAL
August 11th, 2010
5:44 pm
yea ger jeff back then we will have two vastly overrated rf only at least jeff played most of the games badly i admit but he dint chipper it or mail it in lol
Chop Chop
August 11th, 2010
5:46 pm
Okay, scraphead.
The Braves have been thriving on balls-to-the-wall, sandpapery, nitty-gritty-dirt-handed, testicular fortitudinal, and omnivigilant and omnipresent resilience.
And great luck.
Will
August 11th, 2010
5:47 pm
Great comeback win last night and bounce back win today after billy blew another one. That being said, if this team thinks they can continue to play defense this poorly and not have it bite them in the ass they have another think coming.
Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson
August 11th, 2010
5:48 pm
In what world is Frenchy living in???? The only thing he can provide consistently is quality defense, everything else is extremely inconsistent.
The one where he is ” The Natural” on the cover of SI. I’d post a link, but they don’t seem to want to let me.
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
August 11th, 2010
5:50 pm
DOB Braves won the series despite making multiple errors in all 3 games, 8 total. They had 2 today to give them 20 in their past 12 games…
We’re haunting them for that 18-inning game.
Freddie : G
August 11th, 2010
5:50 pm
How are you haters liking Melky now? He gets a big hit now and again and plays a better D than any other Braves outfielder.
CraZyTRaDeMaN
August 11th, 2010
5:51 pm
This is just a small sampling of the mindless comments made here during game. Why in the hell do I even follow this awful team! Are we really in 1st place? Truth is I kind of like reading these posts its just affirmation that I’m far from being the biggest idiot on earth.
3:03 pm–worst defensive team in the majors?
3:04 pm–Cue Tommy Hanson meltdown.
3:04 pm–This game is so over.
3:53 pm–Please bring back Nate, Ankiel is jsut awful
3:55 pm–We’ve got to have the slowest team in major league baseball.
4:01 pm–Does Bobby & Wren see the same poor performances that we do?
4:06 pm–Infante with another weak grounder here? Seems like that is all he is good for anymore.
4:27 pm–wow, Tommy threw a pretty good game eh?
I feel like an idiot.
4:29 pm–DAMNIT!!! Can’t they ever do anything right???
wjones
August 11th, 2010
5:52 pm
“Tomas
August 11th, 2010
5:42 pm
In what world is Frenchy living in???? The only thing he can provide consistently is quality defense, everything else is extremely inconsistent.”
Not so. Frenchy gives you two other things very consistently good:
1. Verbose interviews, both in length of interview and total amount of interviews he can give in a given day (not subject to a word count).
2. He has consistently large and very white teeth.
Chop Chop
August 11th, 2010
5:53 pm
I cost the team the ballgame when I said the Astros didn’t have a chance.
I apologize for it.
glove51
August 11th, 2010
5:55 pm
wjones, I’ll answer. I did NOT enjoy Chavez. The Braves have enough major leageu ready relievers that they don’t need either Farnsworth or Chavez. I was upset a little when the Braves let Farnsworth go. Now, he sucks. The Braves probably have 3-4 better options once O’Flaherty comes off the DL.
hAL
August 11th, 2010
5:55 pm
line drive if this blog called you dumb i shall henceforgh saadress you as einstien
Scott from Fairburn
August 11th, 2010
5:55 pm
Frenchy, needs to come to grips that he may be out of baseball next year …
hAL
August 11th, 2010
5:56 pm
and yes i know my typing sucks as bad as nate/troy,uni lol
Scott from Fairburn
August 11th, 2010
5:57 pm
SI Cover – The Natural – Frenchy
N Nine
August 11th, 2010
5:58 pm
Wren needs to get away from mediocre outfielders he seems to consistently find and sign Carl Crawford. Let’s hope Chipper quits & show CC the money!!!
jeffrey d
August 11th, 2010
5:59 pm
To Wren’s defense, McLouth was coming off a pretty big season when we got him
jeffrey d
August 11th, 2010
6:00 pm
But Loaf wasn’t
TennesseePaul
August 11th, 2010
6:00 pm
You say luck, I say resilience
raw-dog resilience?
Danga
August 11th, 2010
6:02 pm
[Melky] plays a better D than any other Braves outfielder.
What are you people smoking when watch the games? Doughboy makes a nice grab every now and again, but it is only because he has to dive for balls a decent outfielder would be camping under. His +/- over the last 3 seasons is a robust -10.
Lew
August 11th, 2010
6:03 pm
I’m betting Francoeur will be playing in MLB next year. If he’s DFAed, the Royals and Dayton Moore will pick him up for next to nothing.
JoeFan
August 11th, 2010
6:04 pm
Would really like to see MLB institute a rule where if you blow a save then you are not eligible for the win. What a joke for Hanson to pitch 7 innings of 2 hit ball leave with the lead and have Wagner blow the save and then get the win.
P-Town Brave
August 11th, 2010
6:05 pm
Um…
Who wins the game then?
You can’t give a win AND a save to the same guy JoeFan
glove51
August 11th, 2010
6:06 pm
Lew: you are correct re: Francouer.
Scott from Fairburn
August 11th, 2010
6:06 pm
Lew, you are right … the Braves Quad-A team … er I mean the Kansas City Royals would snatch him up
jeffrey d
August 11th, 2010
6:07 pm
I just don’t get how someone who’s only 26 and had above-average success for 2 and a half years can suddenly fall off the face of the earth like Francoeur
Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson
August 11th, 2010
6:07 pm
Scott from Fairburn has the inter-web mojo………………..
Lew
August 11th, 2010
6:07 pm
They’re not going to change the way they figure the pitcher of record, but Wagner owes Hanson a dinner or two at a real nice place.
Brian from SC
August 11th, 2010
6:08 pm
JoeFan…what does it matter what player is arbitrarily awarded a “win”? All that matters is if the team wins the game. Players don’t win and lose games by themselves.
brian
August 11th, 2010
6:10 pm
finally got to check the computer again – first time since 4:48. I was much happier this time.
Brian from SC
August 11th, 2010
6:10 pm
jeffrey d, the signs were always there that Francoeur wasn’t a polished hitter. The guy had three times as many strikeouts as walks in the minor leagues. A lot of hitters come up like that, but Francoeur just flat out didn’t develop. He’s the same hitter he was in high school, and a high school mentality doesn’t cut it in the big leagues.
jeffrey d
August 11th, 2010
6:11 pm
Brian – but JF hit .290 in 162 games his first full season, and close to 30 HR in 162 games his second full season. That’s over 1,000 ABs of sustained success.
Scott from Fairburn
August 11th, 2010
6:12 pm
Bat-man, do the following to add in a hyperlink:
Type
Enter the hyperlink or a title for the hyper link after the closing bracket >www.braves.com
Close it by adding
Chop Chop
August 11th, 2010
6:12 pm
If the Royals played Francoeur only against lefties (which is what the Mets want to do), he’d be a solid pickup. He’s a solid defensive player.
Francoeur ought to take a look at Wes Helms and see what he’s managed to do. The guy’s been in the league for twelve years. He’s a leader. He doesn’t complain. He knows his role and plays it. If Francoeur is still in the league in a few years, it will be because he has learned to accept his limitations.
chip1960
August 11th, 2010
6:13 pm
I noticed Nick and Mitchell did not have a single post after the game became final. They wanted us to implode so badly so they could spew some more negativity on the blog. Sorry losers,the Braves disappointed you again. Oh, your Mom is calling you. Take out the trash and wash up, supper is ready.
LPad
August 11th, 2010
6:13 pm
“CraZyTRaDeMaN
August 11th, 2010
5:51 pm
This is just a small sampling of the mindless comments made here during game. Why in the hell do I even follow this awful team! Are we really in 1st place? Truth is I kind of like reading these posts its just affirmation that I’m far from being the biggest idiot on earth.
3:03 pm–worst defensive team in the majors?
3:04 pm–Cue Tommy Hanson meltdown.
3:04 pm–This game is so over.
3:53 pm–Please bring back Nate, Ankiel is jsut awful
3:55 pm–We’ve got to have the slowest team in major league baseball.
4:01 pm–Does Bobby & Wren see the same poor performances that we do?
4:06 pm–Infante with another weak grounder here? Seems like that is all he is good for anymore.
4:27 pm–wow, Tommy threw a pretty good game eh?
I feel like an idiot.
4:29 pm–DAMNIT!!! Can’t they ever do anything right???”
So what exactly was the point of this post, other than to make yourself seem superior to other posters? Is your point that fans that live pitch to pitch bad fans? Should everyone purchase your rose-colored glasses?
jerry
August 11th, 2010
6:14 pm
Are frenchy and heywards stats about the same
jeffrey d
August 11th, 2010
6:14 pm
hahaha….the winners of the Big League Stew Melky Cabrera photoshop contest. These are pretty funny
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Announcing-the-winners-of-the-Melky-Cabrera-phot?urn=mlb-261833#remaining-content
Brian from SC
August 11th, 2010
6:15 pm
jeffrey d, sure if you look at batting average, he was good. But according to most other measures, he wasn’t. Over his first three years, which were his best years, he still had just a .782 OPS, which was simply average (100 OPS+). He had a K/BB ratio of over 4. Then his BABIP started falling to normal levels, and he hit the tank. If you don’t have a grasp of the strike zone, you’re not going to survive in the major leagues unless you’ve got some major, major power.
Scott from Fairburn
August 11th, 2010
6:16 pm
Sorry that didn’t come out right before
1. Type
7. Copy the hyperlink or a type a name to represent the link (e.g. picture of the natural)
8. Type
brian
August 11th, 2010
6:16 pm
great post Scott from Fairburn – it is amazing how high Francoeur thinks of himself. If he would get his head out of his arse and really get to work on his swing he may be able to turn it around a little. It is that attitude that killed him his last year with the Braves. When presented with going to the minors to work on his swing, he threw a temper tantrum. He did not stay long and did not work out his swing.
I will give props to Nate for taking the minors with class and I hope Nate can refind the magic from 2008
Scott from Fairburn
August 11th, 2010
6:17 pm
I give up
Brian from SC
August 11th, 2010
6:18 pm
Yep, Francoeur can be a useful piece as a platoon partner. He will be the last person to realize this, but eventually he will. I don’t think he’s a bad guy, but he’s got illusions of grandeur for himself. Who can blame him? High school superstar, first round draft pick, hometown phenom, SI coverboy. He’s getting a wake up call this year with the Mets. He’ll get another when he’s DFA’d after the season.
Danga
August 11th, 2010
6:19 pm
Those are awesome Jeff D.
Lew
August 11th, 2010
6:19 pm
With what Nate is owed, we certainly hope he can find something -magic or solid contact.
Scott from Fairburn
August 11th, 2010
6:20 pm
Bat-man, go here for the code to create a blog link:
http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_a.asp
Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson
August 11th, 2010
6:20 pm
jeffrey d _
In his first full season it was: .260 .293 .449 .742 with 29 homeruns
He was slightly better his second year, though with 19 homeruns…….
Since then, what is there to say. He has been really bad longer than he was marginally good.
Danga
August 11th, 2010
6:21 pm
How long is Ankiel going to keep channeling the leprechaun out there?
hAL
August 11th, 2010
6:21 pm
beekay this blog dosent want reason or truths they pick a whit/hispanic /oriental as there whipping boy then ride it tell they look like total idiots then later they say things like i told ypou all along that chipper/troy uni would turn it around i dont think most have ever actually seen a braves game except for maybe some of the sillys/muts trols lol
Chop Chop
August 11th, 2010
6:22 pm
Lew,
I think everybody knows that Nate McLouth’s biggest contribution this season will be the walk-off homer against the Phils in the one-game playoff to determine who wins the division and who goes golfing.
Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson
August 11th, 2010
6:22 pm
Scott_ thanks, bookmarked.
hAL
August 11th, 2010
6:23 pm
by the way mcfan with hanson on the mound pudge rodriquez couldent throw out me and im in my 60’s but dont bring up the ace’s many and sundry faults hes not an oradined whipping boy
SpazzHH
August 11th, 2010
6:24 pm
Have to send out props to Salty for getting recalled to the Majors today by the Red Sox. Always wish ex-Braves the best of luck(except against us) when they move on to other places.
MiaBchBravesFan
August 11th, 2010
6:24 pm
With all due respect to Billy Wagner in his last season, Jonny Venters needs to be the closer.
I am sure I am not the first to say it today, or for that matter, the past several weeks.
old man
August 11th, 2010
6:26 pm
Restatement 3rd of the Obvious:
Amid all the negatives–the knee injuries, the awful errors, the ridiculous loss in game one and giving away games two and three–one big positive rises to the top. The team showed the mental toughness that almost every fan (including me) did not have. They strapped it on again in those two games and got the runs back.
I’m thinking this is going to be a big factor in our favor in the stretch run.
The fact that JJ, Hudson, Tommy, and Lowe have all looked very strong recently also helps.
jeffrey d
August 11th, 2010
6:26 pm
I dunno Brian…call me a simpleton, but I’m looking at BA, HR, 2B, RBI, and R and I’d say Francoeur had some pretty good success his first 3 years
2005 (adjusted for 162 games): .300 AVG, 32 HR, 46 2B, 104 RBI, 95 R
2006: .260 AVG, 29 HR, 24 2B, 103 RBI, 83 R
2007: .293, 19 HR, 40 2B, 105 RBI, 84 R
And then….face plant. See ya later Frenchy
jeffrey d
August 11th, 2010
6:27 pm
I guess Ankiel finally stole his Lucky Charms
.575
August 11th, 2010
6:29 pm
CraZyTRaDeMaN – well, aren’t WE the resourceful one!
Three gold stars Chief!
:facepalm:
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
August 11th, 2010
6:30 pm
hAL–
Hey, I didn’t say anything…I know Hanson has trouble holding runners on–I say that all the time.
CraZyTRaDeMaN
August 11th, 2010
6:31 pm
LPad, I don’t have rose color glasses and I’m far from superior to other posters. It’s just funny to me how negative some are about a team in 1st. I’d say fans that live pitch to pitch and post things like this team is terrible or Tommy’s about to melt down have no confidence in the team. Makes you look like a idiot that’s all.
Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson
August 11th, 2010
6:34 pm
jeffery d_
Funny stuff on Melky, thanks.
hAL
August 11th, 2010
6:34 pm
venters is ouurROY bank it lol
jeffrey d
August 11th, 2010
6:36 pm
I’ll repost….if you don’t click on the following link, you won’t see…
-Spider Melky
-Melky Bonaparte
-Melky rocking the drums for Metallica
-Melky in the stands for a Vazquez homerun
-And many more
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Announcing-the-winners-of-the-Melky-Cabrera-phot?urn=mlb-261833#remaining-content
MiaBchBravesFan
August 11th, 2010
6:39 pm
“3:03 pm–worst defensive team in the majors?”
Lately, they’ve beenb playing like it – and it should be a concern, for the stress it places upon an already taxed bullpen.
“3:55 pm–We’ve got to have the slowest team in major league baseball.”
They rank 24th in stolen bases in the MLB, and are just 5 SB’s from 27th – that’s a pretty sad commentary on our overall team speed. This is especially painful given our overall lack of power and slugging.
Honestly, CrazyTrade, I agree with LPad. Your one-man kangaroo court act speaks to some kind of inexplicable superiority complex, or at least some sense that you mistakenly think you are above the fray.
I, for one, am not impressed when you trash others. Inane or not, it’s an opinion blog; your sense of fascism as it relates to baseball knowledge and OPINION is not appreciated.
NC State Nate
August 11th, 2010
6:39 pm
There is no excuse for having 20 errors in 12 games, but I gotta believe not having you’re starting 2B, 3B, and a new SS really took it’s toll this series. When Prado gets back I think things will settle down a lot.
Snotboogie
August 11th, 2010
6:39 pm
jeffrey
That was a funny link. Some great ones in that lot.
By the way, do we have a lineup for today’s game yet?
Jeff321
August 11th, 2010
6:40 pm
The Braves are in a 3 way tie (89) for the most errors in MLB. When is the last time a Cox lead team achieved such an embarrassing feat?
Do ya think Cox will have ‘em doing extra defensive drills or working on their clubhouse etiquette?
Crime Dog
August 11th, 2010
6:40 pm
By the way, do we have a lineup for today’s game yet?
Forget that. Any news on Chipper or Prado?
.579
August 11th, 2010
6:41 pm
CraZyTRaDeMaN – I’m ecstatic that we’re in first. We got there because of a torrid May & June and our pitching has kept us there along with the late-game heroics, but if you think we don’t have serious issues to address…..
…I got news for ya.
shmoe
August 11th, 2010
6:42 pm
“The Braves have been thriving on balls-to-the-wall, sandpapery, nitty-gritty-dirt-handed, testicular fortitudinal, and omnivigilant and omnipresent resilience.”
best line of the year!!
noleeeee
August 11th, 2010
6:42 pm
Is your point that fans that live pitch to pitch bad fans?
probably that such fans are annoying when they post pitch to pitch.
and yes they are BAD BAD fans. they should be sealed into dark dank caverns en masse and forced to listen to Braves wins the rest of their lives. t’would be hell to them no doubt. BAD!!!, everybody knows that
jeffrey d
August 11th, 2010
6:42 pm
Any word on Salcedo?
brian
August 11th, 2010
6:43 pm
why should they do any extra defensive work? They all are great defenders who make no errors.
jeffrey d
August 11th, 2010
6:45 pm
wow…just noticed Tommy’s line. 7 innings and 2 hits. Those pitch-by-pitch fans were freaking out in the 4th inning earlier
Snotboogie
August 11th, 2010
6:46 pm
jeffrey d and Crime Dog
I’m afraid DOB is going to come along, take these question seriously and give us a tongue lashing.
jeffrey d
August 11th, 2010
6:46 pm
I really wish some people would stop using Ws to evaluate a pitcher. Would anybody argue that Hanson didn’t deserve a win today with the way he pitched?
Meanwhile, Lowe gives up about 36 runs and still somehow gets the W
jeffrey d
August 11th, 2010
6:47 pm
Snot – I jokingly noted that right after DOB noted how Hanson retired the first 9 batters that the Astros were 2 for 2 with a walk and an RBI since then.
He told me “good reporting.” I don’t think he likes me
hAL
August 11th, 2010
6:47 pm
tommy certainlky dint over tax the bullpen when he was giving up 10 to 15runs a game there for a month or so it was early enough that bobby only used matinez and chavez in his wasted starts you do relaize those losses are the same as the ones other guys contribute too lossing right?
Danga
August 11th, 2010
6:48 pm
CrazyTrade…I found it humorous.
Snotboogie
August 11th, 2010
6:49 pm
just noticed Tommy’s line. 7 innings and 2 hits. Those pitch-by-pitch fans were freaking out in the 4th inning earlier
Amazing right. He can be dominant at times and somehow we never notice it on the blog – not like we do Huddy. I guess people trust Huddy or even JJ much more and with Hanson, well idiots are lining up to say he should be traded right now. Hanson seems to especially like pitching to Houston – 3 outings and he’s pitched deep with dominant stuff.
noleeeee
August 11th, 2010
6:49 pm
no hAL I didn’t. Thanx for enlightening me
Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson
August 11th, 2010
6:50 pm
He told me “good reporting.” I don’t think he likes me _ jeffery d
I think he was complementing you for some perspective post after that one. But that might just be me, Mr sunshine
jeffrey d
August 11th, 2010
6:51 pm
No, there was definitely a sparkle of sarcasm in his tone
Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson
August 11th, 2010
6:52 pm
Forget that. Any news on Chipper or Prado?
Time for you guys to embrace the “Twitter” machine.
Snotboogie
August 11th, 2010
6:52 pm
He told me “good reporting.” I don’t think he likes me
You should use more smileys to convey your sarcasm.. no wait..
I think we should all learn from RHR about calling attention to that. I try to skulk around and mention such things in code because quite often these coincidences are eerie with him and I cant help but notice them.
noleeeee
August 11th, 2010
6:53 pm
he hates you jd, talks about it regularly with those of us he Emails
Snotboogie
August 11th, 2010
6:55 pm
he hates you jd,
jd? He hates him? I can now imagine DOB walking around calling him girl names each time like in Scrubs.
CraZyTRaDeMaN
August 11th, 2010
6:55 pm
MiaBchBravesFan, thats why no names were attatched to the comments. Besides I could care less what is appreciated or not appericiated by you or others. It’s an opinion blog remember and my rose colar glasses are able to see the game and season as a whole unlike others who seem to wear horse blinders and are only able to see whats going wrong at that exact moment.
Sophee
August 11th, 2010
6:55 pm
No, no, no. Lose the emoticons and put smile in parenthesis.
(smile)