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tristan
July 31st, 2010
7:23 pm
JOD his name is Brooks Conrad
Chop Chop
July 31st, 2010
7:24 pm
Have to to give Wren a C – for the deadline. Our BIGGEST need was a bat, but he gets a really good closer and a alright C
Farnsworth has recorded seven saves in the last five seasons, but I’m sure he’ll be a really good closer for us.
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:24 pm
Joey M
July 31st, 2010
7:22 pm
BREAKING NEWS FROM ESPN:
Yankees, Red Sox.
Thank you.
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So true!
JasonInFL
July 31st, 2010
7:24 pm
I really did think they would go after a bat all things considered. I bet some other bats were available, we just weren’t willing to deal any prospects.
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:25 pm
The Yankees have the best offense and baseball and get Berkman and Kearns. The Braves obviously need offense much more than the Yankees and get Ankiel.
.578
July 31st, 2010
7:25 pm
Right now, we couldn’t wash the Rangers or Yankees’ socks.
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:25 pm
Roman Gal
July 31st, 2010
7:23 pm
At least Melky knows how to smile. His not-Escobar factor is off the charts!
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Well at least his isnt a disturbance in the club house (sarcasm.)
Chop Chop
July 31st, 2010
7:25 pm
I don’t care about what the Phillies do. I care about what we do. We need to do better.
jeffrey d
July 31st, 2010
7:26 pm
I will be glad when our new manager is not Moses age and his idea of an older player is late 20’s and not these old geezers Bobby likes to have on the team.
What? Most of the team is 32 or younger, including several in their early to mid 20’s. I’m not complaining about having old men Hudson and Wagner on the team. Any manager would play Chipper Jones. But yeah, Lowe is terrible.
shmoe
July 31st, 2010
7:26 pm
nauseating
.578
July 31st, 2010
7:27 pm
At least Melky knows how to smile. His not-Escobar factor is off the charts! – RG
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:facepalm:
Yeah! That’s big!
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:27 pm
sure
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:27 pm
It sounds like to me the Braves management is ok with just making the playoffs, and then losing in either the 1st or 2nd round. This is not a WS Caliber team. This team is no better than the teams from 2000-2005 that won 95-100 games every year and lost in the 1st round every year.
Frankie Wren
July 31st, 2010
7:27 pm
Nats up 2-0 bottom one.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 31st, 2010
7:28 pm
7,000+, eh? Is that a new record?
richbrave
July 31st, 2010
7:28 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM:
DAN JURIK has enjoyed his first inning of work in DANVILLE after his promotion from GULF COAST where he started five games, pitched 28.2 innings and had a 2.20 ERA.
The cream of this year’s hitting crop seem to be 1B ‘BIG JIM’ GATTIS at .360 BA in 113 AB’s with an .883 OPS, and recently promoted RF DAVID ROHM batting .315 combined at GCL (75) and DANVILLE (58) in 133 AB’s.
jeffrey d
July 31st, 2010
7:29 pm
Hey, I’m not trying to claim that the Braves are playing good right now. But I am pulling for them and not going to get on a high-horse when they lose.
BamaDude @ CowCollege AL
July 31st, 2010
7:29 pm
JOD …thanks …I do see the probs w/ the team …ah, well …I love my team …and I believe in them …Troy is sucking …Chipper is gettin’ old …etc. …but I think we have positive aspects …like I said what Brave fan would not have been happy in April if if we knew we would be in 1st by at least 3.5 games or the worst 2.5 games on August 1st …sure we may crash and burn but …well ya know what I mean I hope …keep the faith is all I am saying to Braves fans …it is baseball …ya never know …it ain’t over till it’s over …go NATS …2-0 in DC …
.578
July 31st, 2010
7:29 pm
BravesFan2010 @ 7:27 -
…and I’m getting tired of getting clowned in the first couple of rounds.
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:29 pm
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:27 pm
It sounds like to me the Braves management is ok with just making the playoffs, and then losing in either the 1st or 2nd round. This is not a WS Caliber team. This team is no better than the teams from 2000-2005 that won 95-100 games every year and lost in the 1st round every year.
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Isnt that what the whole mantra of the 14 straight division titles were all about? I hate that attitude.
braves70
July 31st, 2010
7:29 pm
Don’t worry. All the prospect crazy fans tell us that the Braves are already the favorites in the 2015 Fantasy League with all of our might-be-someday minor leaguers.
Jake W.
July 31st, 2010
7:30 pm
I don’t care about what the Phillies do. I care about what we do. We need to do better.
Yep, if we take care of our own business we won’t have to look back.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 31st, 2010
7:30 pm
BF2010: The Yankees got complimentary pieces that will be role players. I’ll take my chances with Ankiel over Kearns, and Berkman’s mom would’ve been an upgrade over Glaus, but we chose not to go there with Houston. I’d rather have this year’s Farnsworth in the bullpen than “Fat Elvis” Berkman playing 1B over Hinske.
IVAN ...
July 31st, 2010
7:31 pm
‘Live by the Coxie, die by the Coxie’….
So sick and tired of the same old, same old with leaving your pitcher late in the game when you should get off your FAT ARSE and go get him.
This has happened way too many times with Coxie, a trait or a tendency I will be glad to see gone.
Terry Pendleless is not getting us thru this non hitting stretch and am tired of his being the hitting coach.
Making him a manager next year will be a mistake.
We need a speedster leading off( haven’t had one since R. Furcal)
We live and die waiting for a three run homer to get going or get back in the game.
T. Glaus last night hit 5 WEAK groundouts and needs to sit down.
Chipper DOESN’T play like Chipper USED TO PLAY….
Bring up Freeman NOW…..WHAT WOULD IT HURT ???
richbrave
July 31st, 2010
7:31 pm
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:27 pm
It sounds like to me the Braves management is ok with just making the playoffs, and then losing in either the 1st or 2nd round. This is not a WS Caliber team. This team is no better than the teams from 2000-2005 that won 95-100 games every year and lost in the 1st round every year.
Yeah, let’s convince the rest of the league to agree, and mail in the division win, and playoff loss. I’ll take it!!!!
MattyRoss
July 31st, 2010
7:31 pm
Ankiel will be a force in this lineup. If you doubt that, you’re just mistaken. The HUGE ISSUE is the health of Glaus.
.573
July 31st, 2010
7:31 pm
Whoops. Forgot to change the %.
Keeps going down.
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:32 pm
JOD, Braves fans/management love to brag about the 14 straight division titles, but was it really THAT big of a deal ? I mean I would rather have won 2 WS and no division titles than win 1 WS and 14 division titles.
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:32 pm
Braves fans/management brag about winning division titles. Yankees fans/management brag about winning WS. That’s the difference between the 2 teams.
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:32 pm
DAMN IVAN, and I thought I didnt like Bobby’s Cox. Valium and a yohoo?
jeffrey d
July 31st, 2010
7:32 pm
It was awful nice of the Reds to construct a statue of Bobby and put it on the Braves’ bench in the 7th, though.
cricket
July 31st, 2010
7:33 pm
nats helping out again
jeffrey d
July 31st, 2010
7:33 pm
You guys are talking like winning the World Series is as simple as pouring a bowl of cereal.
.573
July 31st, 2010
7:34 pm
Braves fans/management brag about winning division titles. Yankees fans/management brag about winning WS. That’s the difference between the 2 teams.
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BINGO!
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:34 pm
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:32 pm
JOD, Braves fans/management love to brag about the 14 straight division titles, but was it really THAT big of a deal ? I mean I would rather have won 2 WS and no division titles than win 1 WS and 14 division titles.
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Too true man, all it is about is exposure and $$$ that lead from it, but do we like the image of being the Buffalo Bills of baseball? Really?
Long Time Braves Fan
July 31st, 2010
7:34 pm
I will consider it a good season if we winn the division, it would be much better than we have been doing.
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:34 pm
I’d like for Braves fans to tell me what makes this Braves team better than all of those teams from 2000-2005 that won 95-100 games a year and lost in the 1st round every year.
BamaDude @ CowCollege AL
July 31st, 2010
7:34 pm
I really think we could love the trade by Sept. …Rick can play OF and EH can spell Troy at 1st …Kyle can help the pen …
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:35 pm
jeffrey d
July 31st, 2010
7:33 pm
You guys are talking like winning the World Series is as simple as pouring a bowl of cereal.
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The Marlins shure as heck made it look easy, and they are always a mess.
jeffrey d
July 31st, 2010
7:36 pm
I like how the picture of Ankiel on the AJC Sports page is of him striking out
http://www.ajc.com/multimedia/dynamic/00642/fp-rick-ankiel_642683g.jpg
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:36 pm
sure*
Roman Gal
July 31st, 2010
7:36 pm
So who else missed Chip Caray today? I know I did…
CaptainMudderland
July 31st, 2010
7:36 pm
eating outside the box is trending now
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:37 pm
Jeffrey, I never said winning the WS is simple but it can’t be as hard as the Braves made it seem in the 90s and 00’s !!! 14 playoff appearances and 1 WS to show for it !! Yankees won 5 WS in that time period, Blue Jays won 2, Red Sox won 2, Marlins won 2. Braves couldn’t even win as many WS as the Marlins in the last 20 years ???
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:37 pm
Looks like Ankiel has to go the boys room in that pic.
Patrick
July 31st, 2010
7:37 pm
On a more positive note. Washington is up 3-0 already
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:38 pm
Something just isn’t right when you have the kind of pitching we have had over the last 20 years and only 1 WS to show for it. That is just unacceptable.
jeffrey d
July 31st, 2010
7:39 pm
JOD – I guess the question is would you rather have a sustained level of greatness over two decades, or two elite seasons in the middle of a bunch of losing seasons?
BamaDude @ CowCollege AL
July 31st, 2010
7:39 pm
BravesFan2010 …right there is no diff in payroll ‘tween the Braves and the yanks …give me a break …of course that has no effect on winning and losing …
braves70
July 31st, 2010
7:39 pm
Ned Yost got a contract extension through 2012 today. With him, Dayton Moore, and all the ex-Braves over there, maybe we should become Royals fans.
jeffrey d
July 31st, 2010
7:39 pm
So who else missed Chip Caray today? I know I did…
We are no longer friends
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:40 pm
Jeffrey, i’d take 2 elite season in the middle of a bunch of losing seasons. To me, at least when you have losing season year after year you dont have your heart broken year after year. It’s really all about winning the WS. Fans that are satisfied with just making the playoffs are not true fans.
RHR
July 31st, 2010
7:40 pm
whats the word on the trade? i missed getting the blog reaction but was wishing i was here when i saw it pop up on the screen. i like blanco but i don’t think he was ever going to be much more than an injury call up for the braves, maybe now he’ll get to be on a major league team every day. was surprised to see farny’s name, after all the attitude and ‘braves way’ talk going around yunel but i’d guess he’s an upgrade over chavez, as far as talent goes.
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:40 pm
Joe Blanton pitching for the Phils… Well maybe today will be at least a wash. Nats trying to make a run at the division
CaptainMudderland
July 31st, 2010
7:40 pm
Braves just need a healthier group of old men
Tomas
July 31st, 2010
7:41 pm
Rick Ankiel is hot since coming off the DL. Since coming off the DL, 8 games he is batting 366, 1HR, 6 RBI’s and 2 walks. For the season he has a 784OPS that’s very solid. He has a great arm and more range than Melky. Melky’s OPS is 694, Troy Glaus OPS 772(even lower after today.). So it’s a pretty good upgrade.
Downside, another lefthander, and he is awful against lefties with a 172AVG. Maybe a platoon with Melky who hits better against lefties.
And Kyle Farnsworth is the big acquisition. It improves an already good bullpen. There is only one pitcher in the bullpen now that doesn’t belong, Kenshin Kawakami.
Chop Chop
July 31st, 2010
7:41 pm
jeffrey d,
As I get older, I think about the fact that the Braves had a hell of time just getting to the Fall Classic. There is no shame in losing in the World Series, but if you’re in the playoffs almost every season, I think that being in the World Series is the goal. The Braves only did that five out of fourteen straight playoff appearances. Since they were the only NL team pulling off that kind of run, the resulting disappointment continues to linger. This is why so many fans were desperate for Wren to make a big splash and announce to the world that the Braves were not going to eff around in 2010. While it’s true that the Braves could conceivably win a World Series without that splash having been made, it just kinda takes the starch out of some of the fans who really want to be able to puff out their chest and brag on their club.
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:42 pm
jeffrey d
July 31st, 2010
7:39 pm
JOD – I guess the question is would you rather have a sustained level of greatness over two decades, or two elite seasons in the middle of a bunch of losing seasons?
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No question about it, two elite seasons… What does two decades of divison play do for you if you do nothing with them?
IVAN ...
July 31st, 2010
7:43 pm
DAMN JOD –I’m just tired of the same ol BS that Coxie pulls late in the game.
I know we won last night , but tell me the chances ( % wise with Chavez pitching) and the game on the line.
Roman Gal
July 31st, 2010
7:43 pm
We are no longer friends
Chip Caray only makes me want to throw things at the TV. Kevin Millar makes me want to strangle puppies. Chip is the lesser of two evils, for sure, but it’s just to save the puppies!!
Still friends?
RHR
July 31st, 2010
7:43 pm
i hope steve and scoots were here with their chests all puffed out when melky crapped the bed. wouldn’t expect anything less as i would most certainly do the same.
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:43 pm
I think Atlanta sports fans in general have a reason to be bitter with our lack of championships. Falcons, Braves, Hawks, Thrashers, etc. only 1 Championship in 45 years. Atlanta was named the 2nd most miserable sports city in the country, only Seattle was named more miserable.
IVAN ...
July 31st, 2010
7:44 pm
Great post Chop Chop @ 7:41…………
Chop Chop
July 31st, 2010
7:44 pm
And some people like to puff their chests out about being correct when players suck.
(puffs out his chest and confidently raises his hand)
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:46 pm
IVAN …
July 31st, 2010
7:43 pm
DAMN JOD –I’m just tired of the same ol BS that Coxie pulls late in the game.
I know we won last night , but tell me the chances ( % wise with Chavez pitching) and the game on the line.
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I hear you man, next year we get to purge this club of the senile old school ways of playing ball. The game has changed, but Bobby hasnt. Good for some situations, but bad for most.
cabravesfan
July 31st, 2010
7:46 pm
Nats already up 3-0 on Phils in 2nd
Roman Gal
July 31st, 2010
7:46 pm
i’d take 2 elite season in the middle of a bunch of losing seasons.
Only one team is going to win the world series every year, so if my team isn’t going to be that one team, I’d still rather them have a really good season than a bad one. The Braves had their share of elite teams during the run, but they also had some teams that were lucky to make the playoffs.
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:47 pm
I love Cox, but I am SO glad he’s gone after this year. We need change on this team. No more Chipper either.
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:48 pm
Roman, not me. If my team isn’t going to win the WS, they might as well not be any good. At least that means my heart won’t get broken in October.
shmoe
July 31st, 2010
7:49 pm
looks like we arent the only ones that can’t beat the nats
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:49 pm
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:47 pm
I love Cox, but I am SO glad he’s gone after this year. We need change on this team. No more Chipper either.
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Like Bobby, Chipper’s time has past. Unless he has found the magic elixer in that snuff, then he is done this year.
Jake W.
July 31st, 2010
7:49 pm
RHR, I think unelss the player is just overly ridiculous talent can make up for some pissiness(don’t know if thats a word but i’m tired of using attitude and pouty). If Esco was still raking this year he’s probably is still here. It was the combination of the two that got him traded, still don’t like the trade but it is what it is. Braves are realist though. When you have the talent, a lot of other stuff can be overlooked. They may end up regretting the fact that they gave up on Esco to soon and for to little.
Oh and to beat everyone to the punch, here is my disclaimer. Just my opinion folks to one poster on this topic. No need to respond, remind me about the “tude” and yada yada yada…..
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:50 pm
Yea, the Nats are making a run at NL East………………..
RHR
July 31st, 2010
7:50 pm
so that’s why your name is bravesfan2010
Roman Gal
July 31st, 2010
7:50 pm
If my team isn’t going to win the WS, they might as well not be any good.
So you’re saying you would rather relive through the 2007 season rather than the 2003 season? I sure wouldn’t. To each his own, I guess.
Tomas
July 31st, 2010
7:50 pm
The Nats at home are a pretty good team, on the road they’re awful.
Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson
July 31st, 2010
7:51 pm
BravesFan2010 _ the best team does not always win a short series. You might be better served if you toughed up your heart a little.
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:51 pm
Sure Roman, I still follow the Braves even when they suck. At least I don’t have to worry about getting my heart broken though. I have terrible memories of 2003, but I don’t remember much about 2007.
David O'Brien
July 31st, 2010
7:51 pm
I think the two guys acquired are definite upgrades, as we were reminded by Cabrera’s misadventure today. Farnsworth is another power arm that allows Braves to have great matchups now not just in 7th-9th, but even 6th-9th innings when necessary, and to not have to use Saito back-to-back often, if at all. Their bullpen is really formidable after O’Flaherty returns.
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:52 pm
Jake W.
July 31st, 2010
7:49 pm
RHR, I think unelss the player is just overly ridiculous talent can make up for some pissiness(don’t know if thats a word but i’m tired of using attitude and pouty). If Esco was still raking this year he’s probably is still here. It was the combination of the two that got him traded, still don’t like the trade but it is what it is. Braves are realist though. When you have the talent, a lot of other stuff can be overlooked. They may end up regretting the fact that they gave up on Esco to soon and for to little.
Oh and to beat everyone to the punch, here is my disclaimer. Just my opinion folks to one poster on this topic. No need to respond, remind me about the “tude” and yada yada yada…..
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I think people are waking up to how awful the trade is starting to turn out to be… The Braves danced too quick at the voice of Boobi.
richbrave
July 31st, 2010
7:52 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM:
Two good looking pitching prospects are doing well this season in the DSL, starter ‘SECOND’ BRICENO (6-3, 2.67 ERA) and reliefer ‘IGGY’ GERONIMO (SV 6, 0.65 ERA).
BRICENO has been out 9 times, 54.0 IP, 39 H, 16 ER, 13 BB, 50 SO, 0.96 WHIP. He also has one hold and a save in four relief stints. SEGUNDO leads the staff in IP. The league is batting .201 against him.
GERONIMO has 16 appearances, 27.2 IP, 14 H, 2 ER, 6 BB, 26 SO, 0.72 WHIP with 14 games finished. The league is batting .151 off him.
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:52 pm
Bartholomew, maybe all those Braves teams from 1991-2005 were just not built for a short series ? Is that the reason why we only won 1 WS ? THen again, we had Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Avery, etc. And I always thought that having that kind of pitching is what was most important in a short series.
jeffrey d
July 31st, 2010
7:53 pm
The Braves only did that five out of fourteen straight playoff appearances
But you know how many other teams can say they’ve been to 5 World Series in the past 20 years? Only one….the Yankees (duh). I’m not saying that Bobby Cox hasn’t made his share of mistakes, but complaining that we’ve “only” won one World Series, and “only” been to five World Series is akin to the rich teenager saying he “only” gets to take the Lexus out this weekend because the Lamborghini is in the shop.
It’s not easy getting to the World Series, and all of our successes and failures are in the past. It seems pointless to argue/complain about all that. I mean, does anybody really care anymore that the Diamondbacks won the World Series nine years ago? Or that the Astros made it to the World Series in 2005?
shmoe
July 31st, 2010
7:53 pm
DOB,
be warned: some might call you a ‘homer’ for posting such positive things about the braves’ acquisitions!
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:55 pm
Call it like I see, like it or not. Walk the walk.
braves70
July 31st, 2010
7:55 pm
MLB Rumors mentioned that Chone Figgins would probably make it through waivers in August so he may still be on our horizon.
BravesFan2010
July 31st, 2010
7:55 pm
Jeffrey, success is judged by WS titles. So, the Diamondbacks have been just as successful as the Braves in the last 20 years and the Marlins have been more successful.
richbrave
July 31st, 2010
7:55 pm
“……….and to not have to use Saito back-to-back often, if at all………..” DOB
Because he’s 40, and can’t handle the load anymore? Career nearing it’s end is it?
jeffrey d
July 31st, 2010
7:55 pm
melky crapped the bed
JOD
July 31st, 2010
7:55 pm
Not so much about the trade though.
Roman Gal
July 31st, 2010
7:55 pm
BravesFan2010-
I remember hating the 2007 season and wishing it was over. Like I said, to each his own.
BamaDude @ CowCollege AL
July 31st, 2010
7:57 pm
DOB …thanks for your thoughts on the trade …btw I agree 100% …but as a disclaimer, I think you are the master of MLB beat scribes …YOU are why i come here ….
jeffrey d
July 31st, 2010
7:57 pm
Yes RG, still friends. I don’t mind Millar. But Chip…..if I lived on a boat, Chip would make me want to jump overboard. The worst for me is when the other team gets a hit and runners score, and Chip announces it with that defeated tone of his
Base hit, left field. One run is in. Two runs are in…
MiaBchBravesFan
July 31st, 2010
7:58 pm
Well, go Nats!!!
McJasoneeeeeenInFL
July 31st, 2010
7:59 pm
DOB, do you think FW knew Ludwick could be had?
jeffrey d
July 31st, 2010
7:59 pm
you are the master of MLB beat scribes …YOU are why i come here …
Ouch….what about me BamaDude?
BamaDude @ CowCollege AL
July 31st, 2010
7:59 pm
JOD …I respect that …do your thang ….I rip no one …well maybe nick …hehe
McJasoneeeeeenInFL
July 31st, 2010
8:00 pm
Yes, DOB thanks…always look forward to what you have to say on these matters…have to have some reason with us “crazies”!
JOD
July 31st, 2010
8:00 pm
Has anyone seen Gonzolaz’s offense? Its has been reported to be missing since the gentleman left Toronto.
Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson
July 31st, 2010
8:00 pm
I remember the years the Braves never had a chance. It sucked all the time.