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JasonInFL
July 30th, 2010
5:25 pm
Oh well, we have Gregor coming up soon!!
RC
July 30th, 2010
5:25 pm
RC, yes, I do think Lowe/Medlen is better than whatever the Phils have the bottom of their rotation.
UKUGA
July 30th, 2010
5:25 pm
Category: Over/under on Troy Glaus homers for the rest of the season
Over/under: 6
Same for Alex Gonzalez
Over/under: 4
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2010
5:25 pm
Trade deadline special on MLB Network now
semiballcoach
July 30th, 2010
5:25 pm
forget a power bat
noleeeee
July 30th, 2010
5:26 pm
WHERE’S THE POWER BAT COMING FROM? UNC
A-Gon according to Wren when he announced the trade
kerryb
July 30th, 2010
5:26 pm
Ellsbury has great speed. The only problem is you can’t steal 1st base. He’s not hitting any better than Melky.
P-Town Brave
July 30th, 2010
5:26 pm
WHERE’S THE POWER BAT COMING FROM?
Gregor Blanco?
FUWren
July 30th, 2010
5:26 pm
Standing pat is fine….but FREE FREDDIE FREEMAN!
Doug
July 30th, 2010
5:27 pm
I agree “no more old players” If something comes up to really improve this team for the long run, then do it. Don’t piss away our base to try to steal a championship for Cox & Chipper because it won’t work. This team has had some numbing offensive stretches (like the one we are in now), but has also shown some inspired play. Desperate moves will (have) cost us dearly the last few years. I think we are improving steadily, but we need to quit doing these deals for old/injured men.
kerryb
July 30th, 2010
5:27 pm
I agree. Freddie can’t do any worse than Glaus. It’s painful to watch him run to first base.
RC
July 30th, 2010
5:27 pm
KC, having an identity crisis?
(I don’t care what DOB says, I’m using an emoticon here to specifiy that I’m being jovial, not pissy)
UKUGA
July 30th, 2010
5:28 pm
Berkman will have another short porch to flip balls into in the Bronx.
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:28 pm
Teams like the Yankees are making trades to get players they dont even need while teams like the Braves are just waiting around until it’s probably too late to get someone.
Jon
July 30th, 2010
5:28 pm
I don’t care what move we make. But if Wren isn’t smart with the move he should make, and not standing pat, then he will be run out of Atlanta.
He may get run out of Atlanta if the Braves don’t get to the playoffs in Bobby’s last year. Maybe Bobby can be GM?
pd
July 30th, 2010
5:28 pm
Yeah, because everyone knows that if Keith Law says it, it’s true. There’s no such think as Keith Law’s opinion, it’s fact.
UKUGA
July 30th, 2010
5:28 pm
Worst thing about ATT Uverse?
No MLB Network.
ga4life
July 30th, 2010
5:28 pm
Whomever is in charge of bringing young HITTERS into this organization is what has destroyed the Braves.
We find some of the finest young arms in the game,but we cant get any hitters past Heyward(poss Freeman). Its astonising. We haven’t been able to hit for 15 years. Its the philosophy.
Jake W.
July 30th, 2010
5:29 pm
Matt has had a white hot bat…but only against lefties
I would buy that if he didn’t play most of the second half last year in Church’s abscence and put up some good solid numbers. I said it yesterday that Esco and Prado get most of the attention when it comes to our offensive surge last year in the second hald but Diaz was a huge contributor himself.
otisnixonsmokescrack
July 30th, 2010
5:29 pm
i wonder what lamont from ’sanford and son’ is up to these days….
unbelievable
July 30th, 2010
5:29 pm
you guys may want to check on Freddie’s numbers vs LH’r
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:30 pm
If I somehow inherit billions of $$$, I’m going to buy this team and make sure they have a payroll of at least $300 million every year.
K with a K
July 30th, 2010
5:30 pm
Ellsberry would be a great fit at the top of the order! Prado has been awesome but he would be more suited at the 2,3 or 6. Could we swing both Gullen and Ellsberry? If we make moves we have to move Chipper out of the 3 hole!!!
Barnacle Bill
July 30th, 2010
5:30 pm
“I said it yesterday that Esco and Prado get most of the attention when it comes to our offensive surge last year in the second hald but Diaz was a huge contributor himself.”
Amen, brother.
BravesFanChris25
July 30th, 2010
5:30 pm
If Wren stands pat without trying to improve the club (internally or trade) and Braves don’t make the post season, he will have deserved any and all flack he gets.
Jesse Stone
July 30th, 2010
5:30 pm
Don’t we play Houston soon?
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2010
5:30 pm
Yankees get Berkman to be new DH. Astros get NO PROSPECTS but the Yankees will pay all of Berkman’s contract…
The Astros get NOTHING for Berkman…WOW…
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2010
5:30 pm
Some of y’all are acting like the trade deadline is five minutes from now. Calm down.
Bigwheel
July 30th, 2010
5:31 pm
What the heck does matt Diaz have to do? I mean he’s hitting the ball better than anyone on this team besides Jason. I love Bobby, but wow.
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:31 pm
ga4life, that’s the reason why we could only manage to win 1 WS. NO HITTING. I mean I can’t remember how many games we lost 1-0 or 2-1 in the WS in the 90s.
kerryb
July 30th, 2010
5:31 pm
Ellsbury. I’m sorry but a .250 hitter thats been on the DL does nothing for me. Not impressed if we make that deal.
Jon
July 30th, 2010
5:31 pm
I agree wholeheartedly, BravesFanChris25. I hope that all fans in and around the ATL will run him out of town.
UKUGA
July 30th, 2010
5:31 pm
Yes, Braves play Houston Monday 9 through Wednesday 11.
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:32 pm
Braves have almost always had good pitching for the last 20 years.
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2010
5:32 pm
BravesFanChris25,
If FRANK WREN stands PAT, he should be FIRED
Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson
July 30th, 2010
5:32 pm
I would love to see the Braves deal with the D-Backs for Chris Young. _ kerryb
What do you have against the Braves?
Grrrrr
July 30th, 2010
5:32 pm
We need Ellsbury!
MFin04
July 30th, 2010
5:32 pm
Not much to dislike in Ellsbury, .300 average, .350 on base, .400 slugging, and 85% SB.
McLeeeeeeeeeew
July 30th, 2010
5:32 pm
Y’all o realize thaty Wren is not playing Yahoo Fantasy Baseball, that he can’t just take someone who has gone 1 for their last 6, go to the “All Availabkle Players ” page, pick the one with the best stats at whatever position he’s needing to fill and tomorrow they will be on his roster?
I would imagine he’s burning the phone lines and cell towers trying to get the best deal out there IF there is such a creature to begin with. The fact he hasn’t seen fit to take the time inform any of you mis=ght just be for one of two reasons – 1. He doesn;t have the time because he’s doing his freaking job, or 2. Y’all’s opinion don’t mean sh!t to a tree.
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2010
5:32 pm
BravesFanChris25,
Let’s face it, dude. If the Braves somehow don’t make it to the postseason this season, it isn’t going to matter what Wren did or didn’t do at the deadline. The fans on boards like this will eat him alive.
Shaunn
July 30th, 2010
5:32 pm
Too bad Mclouth screwed the Braves last Sunday by causing us to lose to the Marlins……as a result Coghlan got hurt, and now the Marlins want the kitchen sink for Cody Ross. So Mclouth has screwed us in ways besides his bat and defense…Nice
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2010
5:32 pm
If FRANK WREN stands PAT, he should be FIRED
What if they stand pat and the Braves win the World Series? Still fired?
joemoedee
July 30th, 2010
5:32 pm
What about Garrett Jones or Luke Scott? Both affordable, and both teams are sellers. Marlon Byrd has an affordable contract too, but I’m not sure if the Cubs are sellers at this point.
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:32 pm
So Yankees get Berkman for nothing, Phillies get Oswalt for basically nothing. Why can’t the Braves get somebody for nothing ?
NavyBrave
July 30th, 2010
5:33 pm
Send McOut and Stephen Marek to Baltimore for Luke Scott and call it a day.
Jon
July 30th, 2010
5:33 pm
@kerryb, I believe that would make him a buy low opportunity. If his last two years are factors in the trade and he’s doing just as well this year, the Braves wouldn’t be able to touch him. But because he’s injured, I think that there’s a possibility that we can get him for a lot lower than he’s actually worth. He’ll definitely bounce back because of the past that he’s shown to have
Barnacle Bill
July 30th, 2010
5:33 pm
“Y’all’s opinion don’t mean sh!t to a tree.”
Huh???
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:33 pm
With the Braves current roster, does anyone really think we could beat the Yankees in the WS ? Especially now that they have Berkman and maybe Dunn ???
shinburger
July 30th, 2010
5:34 pm
.250 is his avg for this year in limited ab’s look at his numbers the previous years
McLeeeeeeeeeew
July 30th, 2010
5:34 pm
The Braves aren’t destroyed. They’re in first place.
otisnixonsmokescrack
July 30th, 2010
5:34 pm
that means tampa likely to get Dunn.
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:34 pm
Why don’t we just send Chip Caray to the Nats for Dunn ?
noleeeee
July 30th, 2010
5:34 pm
even last year Diaz hit 759 against RHed pitchers. not all that great, though admittedly better than most everybody this year
K with a K
July 30th, 2010
5:34 pm
I would love to have Chris Young in centerfield!!!
Jon
July 30th, 2010
5:35 pm
I just want the Yanks and Rays to beat each other up. Charge a few mounds with bats in hand and deck a few pitchers on each side.
Jesse Stone
July 30th, 2010
5:35 pm
Why are you still bellyaching about McLouth GIDP against the Marlins? If Glaus hadn’t done the same thing, we would’ve won the game and McLouth’s GIDP wouldn’t have mattered.
TnBrian
July 30th, 2010
5:35 pm
It’s kinda hard to ignore the fact that Wren is going after Cody Ross, or was. That’s a clear sign that we ain’t getting what most of us obviously want for our team and that’s a slugger. I’m not setting my hopes high on this one. I’ve learned my lesson. The Braves are obviously low on money and Wren has made it very clear he will not trade certain prospects anyways. Good chance teams with a valuable player will eventually get a top prospect somewhere if Wren doesn’t offer one.
McLeeeeeeeeeew
July 30th, 2010
5:35 pm
Barnacle-Must be a kid -reference to the lyrics of a Jefferson Airplane song. It basically means what you think doesn’t matter a bit in some situations (most of them as a matter of fact). MIne neither.
amicusterrae
July 30th, 2010
5:35 pm
Keith Law’s assessment makes sense on the stats, age, salary, and control. But he did not address disposition and clubhouse chemistry, a very important intangible.
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:35 pm
McLeeeeww, BIG DEAL. Being in 1st place in the regular season means nothing. It’s all about the postseason. Look how many times we finished in 1st place in the last 20 years and what did it get us ?
adam
July 30th, 2010
5:35 pm
cody ross is a joke. if thats all we can get just leave the damn team the way it is. .280 with seven home runs is not going to keep us in play off contention
BravesFanChris25
July 30th, 2010
5:35 pm
Chop Chop
While that’s true about some fans will eat him alive if Braves don’t make post season other way. I for one will NOT be one of them, just as long Wren actually DOES something to improve the club whether it be internally or via trade. If Wren stands pat and does absolutely nothing to improve the club’s chances, then he deserves any flack he gets for not trying to improve the club.
njbraves
July 30th, 2010
5:35 pm
The stupidity level has hit an all time high on here the last few days.
Just Wanna Say
July 30th, 2010
5:35 pm
As someone said earlier this week, “Chris Young is Nate Mclouth Part II.”
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:36 pm
TnBrian, how are the Braves low on money ? They have the 15th biggest payroll and they’re a top 10 market.
Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson
July 30th, 2010
5:36 pm
Whomever is in charge of bringing young HITTERS into this organization is what has destroyed the Braves.
We find some of the finest young arms in the game,but we cant get any hitters past Heyward(poss Freeman). Its astonising. We haven’t been able to hit for 15 years. Its the philosophy.
Now batting for your Atlanta Braves : Brian McCann
Jon
July 30th, 2010
5:36 pm
@njbraves, you can’t read half of the comments on here anyway. Everyone thinks that their comment will be read so they say whatever the hell they want.
BravesFanChris25
July 30th, 2010
5:36 pm
I meant to say “if Braves don’t make post season either way.” in the 1st line of my last post.
Crime Dog
July 30th, 2010
5:37 pm
If FRANK WREN stands PAT, he should be FIRED
Yep. I’m sure Frank hates improving the team and really wants to prove to the world that Gregor Blanco can be a WS MVP.
Or maybe there just aren’t any good players that other teams want to trade us for any of our players.
But yeah, I’m betting Frank just finished up No.17 at Sugarloaf. Rest assured, he got up and down for par.
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:37 pm
I wish we could have traded Chipper Jones while he still had value, so we could have got a really good, young player in return.
McLeeeeeeeeeew
July 30th, 2010
5:37 pm
BravesFan2010- Would you prefer to be in last or maybe third like the past few years? Be thankful they have a shot and quit griping.
NavyBrave
July 30th, 2010
5:38 pm
Pretty sure spending millions of exta cheese the Braves don’t have isn’t those trams getting Oswalt and Berkman for “nothing”; if the Steinbrenners owned us we’d be spending money at the trade deadline instead of talking prospects too. Then maybe you’d be happy we got late 30’s pitcher and OF on the decline for half a season for “nothing”
Travis
July 30th, 2010
5:38 pm
Don’t expect any of the Braves moves to involve the spending of money. The payroll is not gonna go up. Liberty has spent all it will spend this year. LaRoche at first is a great move right now with Glaus struggling. He has a one year contract if I remember right and that is all the Braves want with Freeman in the wings. If Freeman is that close just save the money and bring him up. Next year every team in baseball will be vying for the sevices of guys like Crawford. The Braves won’t get him because they won’t commit the money. Get used to it folks…Until Arthur Blank buys this team they will be the Brewers of the Eastern Division.
McLeeeeeeeeeew
July 30th, 2010
5:38 pm
njbraves-It’s a seasonal thing. Happens every year around the middle of JUly and during the winter.
Jon
July 30th, 2010
5:38 pm
@BravesFan2010: Hell no. Chipper Jones has been the heart and soul. I am a Braves fan because of him.
Lollygagger
July 30th, 2010
5:38 pm
Being in 1st place in the regular season means nothing. It’s all about the postseason.
Without finishing in 1st place or being lucky enough to get wild card spot, there is no postseason… so yeah, finishing first is a pretty flippin’ big deal.
TRADE
July 30th, 2010
5:38 pm
Looks like Our Prestigious Crimson Tide just landed a verbal committment from one of Ohio’s Top Prep Players – - Trey Depriest!!
RTR
noleeeee
July 30th, 2010
5:38 pm
I would love to have Chris Young in centerfield!!! K
Young sux away from ‘zona
shinburger
July 30th, 2010
5:39 pm
Please dont bring young again
njbraves
July 30th, 2010
5:39 pm
The Yankees are not going to get Berkman and Dunn. Why the hell would they want both?? It makes zero sense.
Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson
July 30th, 2010
5:39 pm
If I somehow inherit billions of $$$, I’m going to buy this team and make sure they have a payroll of at least $300 million every year.
Do it this year and you will not have to pay any inheritance taxes.
Joe
July 30th, 2010
5:39 pm
njbraves..isnt that normal on blogs and boards around trade deadline time?
Barnacle Bill
July 30th, 2010
5:39 pm
Not a kid, and I loved the Airplane. Just missed the reference. I wonder if Grace Slick remembers it?
Petro1989
July 30th, 2010
5:39 pm
So…to summarize, the Braves are getting no one and will continue to leak oil like a Chrysler well into August. Great.
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:39 pm
Well, Cody Ross is not a great player by any means but he would be an upgrade over McLouth.
Just Wanna Say
July 30th, 2010
5:40 pm
jaysonst
#Braves still look like team in hardest on Cody Ross. But sources in touch w Braves believe they’re “highly unlikely” to deal by Sat #trades
Snotboogie
July 30th, 2010
5:40 pm
After seeing all the names thrown about and trades proposed, I know one thing for sure. Whoever Wren gets, he is going to get pilloried for either getting the wrong guy or giving up too much. But when you consider that folks will find his address and murder his puppies if he stands pat, he really has no way out.
Jon
July 30th, 2010
5:40 pm
You win, Petro1989.
ben
July 30th, 2010
5:40 pm
The Braves were doing great before the All-Star break…they trade Escobar…and now the team struggles. Coincidence? Not likely. You move one player out, put somebody else in…somehow, it doesn’t work as well anymore.
However, I can sense the Braves season slipping away. I just never felt as strongly about a trade as this one (Escobar-Gonzalez). If Chipper Jones hits 40 HR and has 120 RBI, then if he wants Escobar out, then fine. But Chipper is a shell of his former self. In fact, for the money he gets ($14 million in 2010; .251 BA, 7 HR, 41 RBI), we could have got 2-3 good players. And the Braves didn’t want to pay Adam LaRoche $6 million/year. Are you freakin kidding me?
And Bobby Cox will be gone after this year (so no reason to jeopardize our future for his sake).
I also wonder about the anonymous quotes about Escobar: “Bobby hates Escobar” and “Escobar doesn’t have a lot of friends in the clubhouse.”
It makes me think these quotes come from only 1 player (probably Chipper Jones). I’m happy for Escobar; from Sportscenter highlights, I see it is all smiles and he is on an offensive tear in Toronto.
And it’s not because I don’t like Gonzalez (he’s had a fine career; seems to be a good teammate), it’s just I’ve see what Escobar can do. Trading him away reeked of panic from the Braves management.
Bottom line: Escobar is a Chevy Corvette (not 100% reliable, but still a high performance vehicle); and Gonzalez is a Cadillac Cimaaron (looks like a Cadillac, but just really a Chevy Cavalier with leather seats).
kerryb
July 30th, 2010
5:40 pm
Don’t you play most of your games at home? I bet some Braves have better numbers at home than away. If you look at Young’s stats they compare with Heyward.
Jake W.
July 30th, 2010
5:40 pm
even last year Diaz hit 759 against RHed pitchers. not all that great, though admittedly better than most everybody this year
I was looking at his second half numbers but I don’t know what he did strictly against right handers. I just know he was a big part of that offensive surge and given our current offensive struggles right now we need to play our hot hands cause to be honest, there really aren’t many.
noleeeee
July 30th, 2010
5:40 pm
But he did not address disposition and clubhouse chemistry, a very important intangible. ami
McLeeeeeeeeeew
July 30th, 2010
5:41 pm
Barnacle-From the Song on Volunteers “Eskimo Blue Day”> Whether or not Grace even rememebrs her name at this point is likely a valid question.
Joe
July 30th, 2010
5:41 pm
Because the Yankees want to rule the world…rumor has it that when the world series starts they will just purchase whoever the NL team is they are playing and win by default..muahahahah!!
Rob From SC...Chipper's new BFF, Please call up Freddie Freeman, Craig Kimbrel, and Mike Minor...Lowe to the bullpen
July 30th, 2010
5:41 pm
The only trades going down are salary dumps..We can’t take on salary
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:41 pm
Lolly, finishing 1st isnt as important as it used to be. As long as you are at least a wild card, that’s all that matters. I’d rather win the WS as a wild card than win the division and not win the WS.
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2010
5:41 pm
Well, the Braves haven’t blown a division lead this late in a season in many years, BravesFanChris25. 1983 looks like the last time (6.5 game lead on August 13th). Chop Chop was three-and-a-half years old at the time.
So, in my opinion, it would be quite appropriate for fans to rip Wren to shreds if this team doesn’t get the job done.
(You’re right, of course. People rip him no matter what. I just think that the numbers would grow…and justifiably so.)
otisnixonsmokescrack
July 30th, 2010
5:41 pm
Rays will get Dunn..win al east and yanks lose to Rangers in alds. taking the series in 4 games. 2 wins by lee and a meltown by aj burnett.
Jon
July 30th, 2010
5:41 pm
@kerryb, only the Phillies get to play most of their games at home. Everyone else plays half and half.
joemoedee
July 30th, 2010
5:41 pm
@njbraves The Yankees are not going to get Berkman and Dunn. Why the hell would they want both?? It makes zero sense.
Berkman in LF, Gardner / Granderson in CF, and Dunn @ DH? That lineup would be videogame level at that point… lol