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Herschel Talker
July 30th, 2010
5:02 pm
BravesFan2010 at 4:56:
The Yankees need Dunn to keep him away from the Rays.
HT
Barnacle Bill
July 30th, 2010
5:02 pm
The good thing about rosterbation is that you don’t go blind as a result. Unless you count blind loyalty.
slugger
July 30th, 2010
5:02 pm
Can we send Freeman and an arm to Seattle for Justin Smoak?
Stock couldn’t be lower on Smoak right now, and he’s going to have a tough time adjusting to the west coast (he’d thrive being closer to SC).
Freeman’s from California, correct? Seattle fits the move for him, too.
I’d love to have Smoak work with Chipper on his switch hitting…Smoak had the best swing I’ve seen in my life – and that was his first game in college when we beat him and South Carolina. They came to Elon and he hit a ball right handed that nearly bounced in the left handed batters box over 380 oppo to right field.
I’m all for acquiring Smoak, guy’s got serious talent.
Geography really makes a difference for some players and eventual superstars bounce around a little bit their first couple years, but this guy’s not a prospect. Smoak will be a an All-Star for at least 5-7 years in his MLB career.
Still also waiting on FW to trade for Micah Owings to be an OF for us next year…
Anyone like my ideas?
Plate Appearance
July 30th, 2010
5:03 pm
WREN’S PRODIGIOUS MAKER OF OUTS
A prodigious maker of outs.
Yes, that’s how ESPN’s Keith Law characterized Braves new shortstop, Alex Gonzalez, right after Wren traded Yunel Escobar for him — and before Escobar’s current hot streak.
Here’s the quote from Law:
“I like the minor league portion of the deal for Atlanta more than the major league portion. Escobar has been terrible this year at the plate, but still has an OBP (granted, in the easier league) forty points above Gonzalez’s equivalent, and the latter benefited from the homer-friendly Rogers Centre. Gonzalez is roughly Escobar’s equal in the field and is less erratic, but I’d probably still roll the dice on Escobar’s bat for the rest of the year, especially given Gonzalez’ long track record of OBPs at or below .300; even the change in leagues isn’t going to make him anything less than a prodigious maker of outs, although his consistency will likely placate the manager.” — End quote.
I am still IN SHOCK that Wren made this trade.
But it really makes one question Wren’s OVERALL JUDGEMENT — again and again!
Without Escobar the Braves are simply not as good a team now, as their after the break record demonstrates!
Andrew
July 30th, 2010
5:03 pm
So much for Berkman! Close to being dealt to the Yankees!
GTSteve
July 30th, 2010
5:03 pm
Yankees close to Berkman too…wth…Dunn and Berkman
AlabamaBrave
July 30th, 2010
5:03 pm
sorry about repost
CraZyTRaDeMaN
July 30th, 2010
5:03 pm
BREAKING NEWS: PROMOTION CHANGE for Aug 2nd game vs. Mets
Braves will be handing out free cyanide tablets to the first 10,000 fans through the gate.
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!
Nick 'n Nash
July 30th, 2010
5:04 pm
Slugger – heck no on a Freeman and pitching prospect for Smoak. NOT worth it!
PS. Freeman is from Alabama not Cali pal
GTSteve
July 30th, 2010
5:04 pm
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/atlanta_braves/index.html
Talk about crickets chirping….sheeez
Nova Scotia Steve - At the Bar
July 30th, 2010
5:04 pm
The good thing about rosterbation is that you don’t go blind as a result.
Avoid the dreaded hairy palm scenario as well
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2010
5:04 pm
The thought of Berkman in LF scared the crap out of me. Let the Yankees have him. Go get Luke Scott if anyone. A legit outfielder, and a legit hitter.
rrosson3
July 30th, 2010
5:04 pm
does boston have a catcher for the future?
betancourt and dunn for ellsbury??
adam
July 30th, 2010
5:04 pm
berkman to the yanks. plug someone else in y’alls fantasy lie-ups
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2010
5:04 pm
Alex Gonzalez went to hospital this morning w/ gastritis, which caused his fever yesterday. He’s doing better on medication now, won’t play tonight but possibly tomorrow if he keeps improving
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2010
5:05 pm
Talk about crickets chirping….sheeez
How busy was that site with rumors before the Escobar trade? Nothing.
papadawg
July 30th, 2010
5:05 pm
You are right, there’s not really much out there I’d give young talent for so I say stand pat and play the cards we have and plan on that young talent winning for us next year. We have too many holes
adam
July 30th, 2010
5:05 pm
lineups.
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2010
5:05 pm
Wren always outsmarts the rest of baseball by keeping his cards close to his vest. Have no fear about the lack of rumors, folks.
noleeeee
July 30th, 2010
5:05 pm
sorry about repost alabama brave
we’ll let you live….this time
Nova Scotia Steve - At the Bar
July 30th, 2010
5:05 pm
GTSteve!
Maybe FB me…if you’re around and anything goes down?
Donny Corleone
July 30th, 2010
5:06 pm
I’ll take the repost for a thousand, Alex.
Merlin
July 30th, 2010
5:06 pm
Berkman to the Yanks. he’s gone
GEICO Caveman
July 30th, 2010
5:07 pm
“Avoid the dreaded hairy palm scenario as well”
Would you idiots just leave me out of this?
Merlin
July 30th, 2010
5:07 pm
Wren always keeps his cards close to his chest? Most of them he should never have been played. As a GM he’s a good second assistant to the clubhouse guy.
CB
July 30th, 2010
5:07 pm
Yeah,right, Chop Chop.
Snotboogie
July 30th, 2010
5:08 pm
So basically what DOB is saying is that we are screwed. Hershel
Did I miss this? Just making up sh#t arent you. Gotcha.
GSU-Lee
July 30th, 2010
5:08 pm
Joe–
DOB is probably in the clubhouse since BP starts soon. That’s where he always is about this time.
hooters girl
July 30th, 2010
5:08 pm
Chop Chop that was GOOD, I think I’ll get me some!
bravesfaninnc
July 30th, 2010
5:08 pm
David O’Brien can you either shut down the Ellsbury rumor .Or give us more info about it thanks
cbweathermaneeeee
July 30th, 2010
5:08 pm
DOB:
Thanks for the update on Gonzo!
John in NY
July 30th, 2010
5:09 pm
Yup! One more down for the Braves. That wasn’t the right fit anyway. Berkman is going to the Yanks because they will take his salary on. The Astros needed to hear that since they will be paying for most of Oswalt’s deal
MFin04
July 30th, 2010
5:09 pm
Hmm Omar Infante at SS instead of Alex Gonzalez, I’ll take that all day long!
Ellsbury is a pretty exciting rumor. Wonder why they want to get rid of him?
amicusterrae
July 30th, 2010
5:09 pm
Per Wikipedia on GASTRITIS:
“main acute causes are excessive alcohol consumption or prolonged use of nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (also known as NSAIDs) such as aspirin or ibuprofen.”
CSpin
July 30th, 2010
5:09 pm
@Ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Braves still on Ross, two other teams “coming hard.”
Pretty graphic for a trade rumor…..
===
LOL
AlabamaBrave
July 30th, 2010
5:09 pm
ESPN.com’s Buster Olney hears that the Steinbrenners have given pre-approval for the Yankees to take on a major salary such as Berkman’s
And this is why the Yankees win championships and others, like the Braves, come up short. Their management is willing to spend money and ours is not.
joemoedee
July 30th, 2010
5:10 pm
Cody Ross is off the table, reportedly. Berkman is likely going to be a Yankee. The Ellsbury rumor could hold some water, as Boston needs pitching… I’m not sure how much it would improve the team considering his real value is solely on the basepaths, and the Braves don’t attempt to steal too many bases. Take away his SB totals, and you have a less powerful Melky Cabrera.
Snotboogie
July 30th, 2010
5:10 pm
CraZyTRaDeMaN
Nice one at 5:03 PM.
Everyone will smell nice and ‘almond’y for the game.
Crime Dog
July 30th, 2010
5:10 pm
David O’Brien can you either shut down the Ellsbury rumor .Or give us more info about it thanks
I’m pretty sure there is no more info to give dude. Reporters don’t gain a whole lot by holding out on their readers.
bravesfan90
July 30th, 2010
5:10 pm
jaysonst: Mass confusion on Cody Ross’ status. All I can tell you is one team that asked #Marlins today was told “available if price is right” #trades [via Twitter]
Donny Corleone
July 30th, 2010
5:10 pm
The Braves are gonna make us all excessive consumers of alcohol.
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2010
5:11 pm
I’d like to see Omar at short. He’s not a good defensive shortstop, thus making it possible for the inevitable, and highly entertaining, blowback on this blog to commence.
Arkansas Transplant
July 30th, 2010
5:11 pm
Lance berkman to the Rangers
Barnacle Bill
July 30th, 2010
5:11 pm
Isn’t it a little too soon to be jumping off the Alex Gonzalez bandwagon? Geez…
GTSteve
July 30th, 2010
5:12 pm
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
Yankees Close To Acquiring Lance Berkman
Not a lie
noleeeee
July 30th, 2010
5:12 pm
Lance berkman to the Rangers
good
AlabamaBrave
July 30th, 2010
5:12 pm
gonna?
Arkansas Transplant
July 30th, 2010
5:13 pm
Astros trade 1B Lance Berkman to the Texas Rangers for Chris Davis and 3 other minor leaguers
noleeeee
July 30th, 2010
5:13 pm
little too soon to be jumping off the Alex Gonzalez bandwagon BB
some of us were never on it
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2010
5:13 pm
Did we ever hear what infection O’Flaherty had?
MFin04
July 30th, 2010
5:13 pm
You have to be on the A-Gon bandwagon to jump off don’t you?
Venice Jim
July 30th, 2010
5:13 pm
The blog is going to make me a more excessive consumer of alcohol…I can’t keep up even when refreshing constantly…
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:13 pm
Exactly, Alabama. The Yankees like to win and do whatever it takes. The Braves owners are cheap and don’t care as much about winning.
Snotboogie
July 30th, 2010
5:14 pm
Arkansas Transplant
Where are you seeing that. Looks like he is going to NYY?
Fred595
July 30th, 2010
5:14 pm
I agree with poopsie, all the names that you are talking about is not any better than what we have now. I didn’t agree with the pickup of Glaus either. I do agree with one thing, we do needs some speed and some more power in the line up. I would love to see someone like Crawford or Upton in the line up, I think it would be a much better team if that happen. everyone is always talking about how bad KK is in the rotations, but I disagree. I think he is a good pitcher, and has a lot of potential if he would get more run support. Look at the has been that we have now in Wagner. I’ve always been a huge Braves fan since they move to Atlanta, but over the last 3 or 4 years this team has gone from america’s team to a pretender. I want my old team back.
McLeeeeeeeeeew
July 30th, 2010
5:15 pm
Steve-I don’t think it was ever categorized as anything more than “a viral infection”.
Andrew
July 30th, 2010
5:15 pm
Where did the Ellsbury rumors come form exactly?
Merlin
July 30th, 2010
5:15 pm
Berkman to Rangers fWhy, or whom from what source? Everyone is reporting Yankees
Brave Review
July 30th, 2010
5:15 pm
Fire Frank Wren now!
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2010
5:15 pm
PS. Freeman is from Alabama not Cali pal
Actually, Freddie is from Fountain Valley, which is not too far outside Los Angeles
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2010
5:16 pm
Steve from OH,
You know better than to ask that. We can think of many comical possibilities.
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:16 pm
Berkman is not going to the Rangers. The Yankees are getting Berkman, and most likely getting Dunn too.
Arkansas Transplant
July 30th, 2010
5:16 pm
It’s a Rangers scenario, hoping they would step up and block the Yanks.
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2010
5:17 pm
The blog is going to make me a more excessive consumer of alcohol
You say that like there is something wrong with it…
noleeeee
July 30th, 2010
5:17 pm
why would they need both Berkman and Dunn?
AlabamaBrave
July 30th, 2010
5:17 pm
BF2010….I still think the ChiSox get Dunn.
MFin04
July 30th, 2010
5:17 pm
Ellsbury rumor came from some guy named DOB that rights a blog….
Anatoli
July 30th, 2010
5:17 pm
Dear Frank: No more old players.
McLeeeeeeeeeew
July 30th, 2010
5:17 pm
BravesFan2010-They have an overwhelming need for first basemen? They going after Fielder, too?
Larry
July 30th, 2010
5:17 pm
Why cant Braves be like everyone else and make some deals
Merlin
July 30th, 2010
5:18 pm
Yankees taking all that money, Rangers can’t, Astros can’t pay out anymore, Rangers got Cantu to do that job
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:18 pm
Nole, they dont need Berkman and Dunn. They just want to get them to prevent other teams ( like the Rays) from getting them.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2010
5:18 pm
Chop Chop–I was looking for a laugh…
Barnacle Bill
July 30th, 2010
5:18 pm
“Ellsbury rumor came from some guy named DOB that rights a blog….”
Sometimes he wrongs a blog.
AlabamaBrave
July 30th, 2010
5:19 pm
Larry
July 30th, 2010
5:17 pm
Why cant Braves be like everyone else and make some deals
Two words: Liberty Media
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:19 pm
Larry, because the Braves owners are cheap. Maybe Mark Cuban or Arthur Blanks will buy the Braves. Or maybe Bill Gates.
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:19 pm
God I hate Liberty Media. They have really destroyed this organization.l
Jake W.
July 30th, 2010
5:19 pm
“little too soon to be jumping off the Alex Gonzalez bandwagon” BB
some of us were never on it -noleeeee
Took the words out my mouth.
Anatoli
July 30th, 2010
5:20 pm
Two more words: No MONEY!
Anatoli
July 30th, 2010
5:20 pm
Oprah.
noleeeee
July 30th, 2010
5:20 pm
I kinda doubt that will happen 2010, but they could afford it for sure. we’ll see
MFin04
July 30th, 2010
5:20 pm
I do agree that this team needs some young guys with a little bit of speed. This team is already pretty darn slow and old. Chipper, McCann, Glaus, Hinske all in the middle of the order is a combo of slow and old and slow. Ellsbury in CF for a while would be nice. Prado is not a leadoff hitter long term. And Jason Heyward sure the heck isn’t a 2-hitter.
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
5:20 pm
Oh we have money, but our owners just are too cheap to use it.
Barnacle Bill
July 30th, 2010
5:20 pm
MLB said Liberty Media has to hold onto the Braves for a certain amount of time. Does anyone remember how long, and when is that time period up?
otisnixonsmokescrack
July 30th, 2010
5:20 pm
braves sign the ‘85 Bears…..
JRW7
July 30th, 2010
5:20 pm
BRAVES still looking, FRANK WREN STANDING PAT, aint going to make the BRAVES any better, all we can get now has already been picked over.
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2010
5:20 pm
I guess the comments are coming too fast for the “one word: Monistat” sort of responses. Nobody cares about humor. They’d rather be wrapped up in rumor. That’s cool.
Merlin
July 30th, 2010
5:21 pm
@Larry – Many reasons. Liberty aren’t going to spend a lot, Wren already over paid for Lowe, Mc-Out, and KK. Wren isn’t in the same class of GM as Cashman et al. He’s constantly out maneuvered and overpays. I’d trade Wren for th emanager of th elocal Shell station
McLeeeeeeeeeew
July 30th, 2010
5:21 pm
Liberty Media destroyed this organization? Given to hyperbole, are we?
Any corporate problems were from the Time Warner administration and I hardly categorize the Braves as a destroyed organization.
UKUGA
July 30th, 2010
5:21 pm
If the Braves were to acquire Berkman to play the outfield, then yes, > Laroche.
But, if LaRoche could be had, I’m not sure why the Braves would be afraid of not playing Troy Glaus.
Back to Berkman, the Oswalt trade may make it more likely that Berkman gets traded as well. Sure, the fans won’t like it, but they don’t like it (in Houston) any way. Attendance is terrible, so bad in fact, that if you buy 1 adult ticket in the upper decks, they give you 2 free children’s tickets.
Guess where the UKUGA Family sits?
Lpad
July 30th, 2010
5:22 pm
Plate Apperance: Per your Keith Law quote it would be real nice if people stopped pretending everyone in media thought it was a good trade.
kerryb
July 30th, 2010
5:22 pm
I would love to see the Braves deal with the D-Backs for Chris Young. He’s 26 makes $3.5 Milion. He would be worth one of those good pitchers in the minors and the D-Backs are looking for young pitching.
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2010
5:23 pm
Bobby Cox said O’Flaherty had strong throwing session Wednesday in Atlanta, but didn’t give timetable for return.
Jake W.
July 30th, 2010
5:23 pm
Matt Diaz has had a hot bat, got to find a way to keep him in the lineup. Besides I actually think he does pretty well in Great American.
Dick Doss
July 30th, 2010
5:24 pm
The deal is “imminent,” according to Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News (on Twitter).
Patrick
July 30th, 2010
5:24 pm
Matt has had a white hot bat…but only against lefties
noleeeee
July 30th, 2010
5:24 pm
Young sux away from ‘zona.. ( I have that comment on hold for instant insertion)
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2010
5:24 pm
I love the idea of Ellsbury if he’s healthy for SPEED…
I was excited about Berkman for POWER but now he’s gone…
WHERE’S THE POWER BAT COMING FROM?
Mr. Turnip-Green Jeans
July 30th, 2010
5:25 pm
“Can we send Freeman and an arm to Seattle for Justin Smoak?”
What you been Smoakin’?
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2010
5:25 pm
Joel Sherman is reporting that Yankees are close to a deal for Berkman.