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Anders
July 30th, 2010
4:05 pm
How does Ed Wade continue to have a job? He might as well be running Enron. (PMC)
I completely disagree. I think the Astros have been as consistently relevant as any small market team in MLB for about a decade now. True they haven’t won playoff wise but it feels to me like they’ve been consistently in the 2nd half hunt/discussion year after year. Maybe I’m wrong and I’m definetly to lazy to check.
Joey M
July 30th, 2010
4:05 pm
Why didn’t the Braves go after Scott Podsednik? I was screaming for Wren to sign him in the off season. Would have had a solid outfield if we did. And he would have been perfect at the lead off spot. Prado hitting second would have seen more fastballs. So would Chipper. Still makes me angry.
njbraves
July 30th, 2010
4:05 pm
Arkansas…..You’re right, the package does speak for itself, and its crap.
Patrick
July 30th, 2010
4:05 pm
Why would Minor be called up?
Unless they found some idiot to take Derek Lowe or someone is hurt
P-Town Brave
July 30th, 2010
4:05 pm
How about Ellsbury + Berkman?
I can’t see giving up Minor for either, but we should hope that IF Minor really is scratched from his start tonight and there really is something going on, it should be big…
I dont see Minor going away for Willingham or Ross or etc…
Ellsbury would allow Prado and Heyward to shift down the lineup one slot and if we obtained both Ellsbury and Berkman, the lineup would be pretty well stacked considering what we’d be receiving…
Berkman isnt quite the guy he used to be, but who wouldnt be rejuvenated about getting out of Houston?
We can also then move Chipper to somewhere he should be in the lineup like 6th
Lineup:
Ellsbury cf
Prado 2b
Heyward rf
Berkman lf
McCann c
Jones 3b
Glaus 1b
Gonzalez ss
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 30th, 2010
4:05 pm
bravesgrl4life Too bad Mac and Ross can’t play simultaneously with those numbers.
Play Ross at first base.
shmoe
July 30th, 2010
4:05 pm
if medlen wears down, we have minor! no major problem
Patrick
July 30th, 2010
4:06 pm
Or Medlen is now a Marlin…
Roll
July 30th, 2010
4:06 pm
Okay…I believe frank realizes it’s not speed, baserunners or solid hitters that we are desperate for. (Note….we could use speed.) we are DEAD LAST in leaving runners on base. We need someone who can clear the bases every once in a while. Heck, we usually just need a guy who can hit the ball to the outfield for a SAC-FLY. Dead last in LOB makes it fairly easy to see what you need. It’s all in the numbers boys! Go Braves!
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
4:06 pm
Cody Ross for a vintage six pack of Billy beer, a cup of worms, and a fresh-water bobber.
Seems fair for the Marlins.
JRW7
July 30th, 2010
4:06 pm
Yea, make a trade for Ellsbury if we don’t have to give up too much. Then maybe bring up 1st baseman Freeman to play 1st. GO BRAVES!!!!!!
Gone Viral
July 30th, 2010
4:06 pm
Ellsbury and Heyward side by side for several years is a pretty tantalizing thought.
The Real Gwinnett Braves Bible.com
July 30th, 2010
4:06 pm
I havent heard anything about Minor being scratched, will check on it when I get to the stadium
Nick
July 30th, 2010
4:07 pm
Hey Joe, I’m not in the atl area. I’m in SC. I’m just wondering if peachtree/css is on dish network. I know its on directv.
T for Texas
July 30th, 2010
4:07 pm
I thought Minor was starch from tonight game?
No, he is more of a wash-n-wear, tumble-dry kinda guy.
RC
July 30th, 2010
4:07 pm
Mitch Jones traded to the Pirates according to GwinettBraves1 on Twitter. No idea what Braves get in return.
Anon21
July 30th, 2010
4:07 pm
Regarding Jose Guillen: The man, in fact, cannot hit. 80 OPS+ in limited playing time last year–brutal, even for an SS. Below-average OBP and mediocre power so far this year. Terrible piece. Let’s keep the castoff pipeline moving one way: Atlanta to KC. No need to start swapping bad players between ys.
TROTTINGHOME
July 30th, 2010
4:07 pm
Berkman ain’t coming to Atlanta this year….we need someone for the outfield…
Turtsnap
July 30th, 2010
4:08 pm
Why are the Braves opposed to bringing Freddie Freeman up?
RC
July 30th, 2010
4:08 pm
GwinnettBraves1 also says that Minor still set to start tonight.
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
4:08 pm
I just heard that the Braves are very close to signing Ellsbury, any truth to that ?
ALinRIC
July 30th, 2010
4:08 pm
Ellsbury has hit over .308 lifetime vs. LHP.
monty
July 30th, 2010
4:08 pm
Looks like the Yankees have the hots for Berkman.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
4:08 pm
Well, Heyward did concuss McLouth. Might crack Ellsbury’s ribs again.
P-Town Brave
July 30th, 2010
4:08 pm
Anyone can be hot after Cody Ross, I just hope its not us…
ANYTHING we give pitching wise for him is too much, especially if its Kris Medlen!
ALinRIC
July 30th, 2010
4:08 pm
RC – a case of Iron City Light, if we’re lucky.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
4:09 pm
“I just heard that the Braves are very close to signing Ellsbury, any truth to that ?”
Source, please. And don’t say from this blog.
BuckheadBrave
July 30th, 2010
4:09 pm
mitch jones really? why all these minor league trades? i’m telling you Frank Wren is timid and this whole team is haunted by the spector of the Mark Texiera trade.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2010
4:09 pm
I think the Astros have been as consistently relevant as any small market team in MLB for about a decade now
Small Market… the fourth largest city in America in the second most populous state in the country…
just doesn’t seem right.
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2010
4:10 pm
N8 and KC agreeing on things?
That’s cats and dogs stuff right there, folks.
It's a shame what he did to that dog
July 30th, 2010
4:10 pm
CNNSI wrote a prediction about the Braves picking some guy I’ve never heard of up from the Orioles.
monty
July 30th, 2010
4:10 pm
Ellsbury is basically a .300 hitter with excellent base stealing skills. He also has occassional pop. Remember seeing several highlight plays on him.
Vol_in_Ohio
July 30th, 2010
4:10 pm
Ellsbury is a career .295 hitter and steals 85% of his attempts. Only played 340 games and was a first round pick. I would trade Minor for him.
Memphis
July 30th, 2010
4:10 pm
Mitch Jones was traded to AAA Indianapolis (Pirates) This from twitter.
Bravos
July 30th, 2010
4:10 pm
Prince Fielder + Braves = World Champions
onebravosfan
July 30th, 2010
4:10 pm
Hopefully the specter of the Texeira trade keeps us from getting robbed by the Nats or Marlins.
RC
July 30th, 2010
4:10 pm
RC – a case of Iron City Light, if we’re lucky
Ha. Too bad they released Brandon Jones, they could go for the elusive all Jones outfield (Brandon, Garret, Mitch). I fear Chipper/Andruw will be the closest we ever come…
T for Texas
July 30th, 2010
4:10 pm
Looks like the Yankees have the hots for Berkman.
Once great, now old, expensive, and available–of course they do.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2010
4:10 pm
Chi-town with under 3 million split between 2 teams. Astros with nearly equal population all to themselves… small market.
Crime Dog
July 30th, 2010
4:11 pm
Ken_Rosenthal
Source: #Braves still on Ross, two other teams “coming hard.” #Marlins’ willingness to move him still in question. Would need big offer #MLB
From Twitter
Me
July 30th, 2010
4:11 pm
Have to say i agree…. i agree completely.. check out this link…Matt Diaz Deserves More Love From The Atlanta Braves..
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/425056-diaz-deserves-more-love-from-atlanta
Ellsbury is podsednic...
July 30th, 2010
4:11 pm
they didnt SIGN him. lol. they might trade for him. hes not a free agent.
Anders
July 30th, 2010
4:12 pm
Small Market… the fourth largest city in America in the second most populous state in the country…
just doesn’t seem right (Tennessee Paul)
Small market from a baseball standpoint. In Texas there’s football, the Dallas Cheerleaders and then everything else (which includes baseball). {:
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2010
4:12 pm
Mitch Jones traded??
So long Crash! Best of luck to you…
BuckheadBrave
July 30th, 2010
4:12 pm
while Houston is a larger city Atlanta is a larger media market, I wouldn’t consider either of us small market. small market is St. Louis, Tampa Bay etc..
RC
July 30th, 2010
4:12 pm
“I just heard that the Braves are very close to signing Ellsbury, any truth to that ?”
Considering Ellsbury is already “signed” for 3 more years, I’m gonna say no.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2010
4:12 pm
Forgot about the Dallas cheerleaders hogging the market in Summer.
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
4:12 pm
A friend of mine told me the Braves were close to signing Ellsbury.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2010
4:13 pm
To me, Ellsbury is just a moderately better version of Scotty Pods with a chance to get better. He steals bases better than Pods and plays better D, although his stats suggest he’s a very average defensive CF. Doesn’t hit for a lot of pop, but is better than Melky. Has some projection left as he’ll be 27 in September, so he’s about to enter his prime as a player. He’s a first-time arb eligible next year, so he’ll make about 2.5 MM or so.
A little better than Pods with upside, but still not exactly what we need, and I would be careful about what I offer for him. His value is not as high as many ESPN-watchers would think.
J-Man
July 30th, 2010
4:13 pm
Glad to see u back D.O.B. thought u died.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2010
4:13 pm
Considering Ellsbury is already “signed” for 3 more years, I’m gonna say no.
What they hell, I’ll go with “yes”.
cbweathermaneeeee
July 30th, 2010
4:13 pm
Here’s the link from the OFFICIAL G-Braves Twitter:
http://twitter.com/GwinnettBraves1/status/19935889007
NORRIS
July 30th, 2010
4:13 pm
mitch jones sent to the pirates for cash considerations.
no trade…just cash
BravesFan2010
July 30th, 2010
4:14 pm
Buckhead, how is St. Louis a small baseball market ? They are the 2nd most successful baseball franchise in the history of baseball and have a large following of fans throughout the country. That’s like saying the Packers are a small market just because they are in such a small city.
obvious
July 30th, 2010
4:14 pm
if elsbury is gotten, put him up top and everyone gets to move down to their rightful spots. prado back at 2, heyward at 3 (finally) keep mccann at 4 and chip at 5..offense would deffinately be better
JMAYNE
July 30th, 2010
4:14 pm
Feels like something is going down.
Andrew
July 30th, 2010
4:14 pm
Mitch Jones was traded for cash considerations.
P-Town Brave
July 30th, 2010
4:14 pm
“Would need big offer to move Ross”
Statements like that make me want to puke!
Lpad
July 30th, 2010
4:14 pm
To be honest there really are only four big market cities in baseball: NY, Chicago, LA and Boston. Every other city is a small market compared to them, in a baseball sense.
UKUGA
July 30th, 2010
4:15 pm
Interesting blog.
Is Adam LaRoche an absolute impossibility?
bravesfaninnc
July 30th, 2010
4:15 pm
JMAYNE i agree with you
tex is lame
July 30th, 2010
4:15 pm
@ellsbury is podsednic & miabchbravesfan- Ellsbury to atlanta rumor started here:
http://thebravechop.blogspot.com/
BuckheadBrave
July 30th, 2010
4:15 pm
umm…that would be the definition of “small market” it isn’t referring to your success or national following, it is referring to the built in audience you have in your local area.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2010
4:15 pm
Yeah, if we do get him I’d like to see Heyward moved to the 3 slot and Prado right behind Ellsbury in the 2 hole.
Anders
July 30th, 2010
4:15 pm
Forgot about the Dallas cheerleaders hogging the market in Summer (TP)
That’s when they hold tryouts in their “skimpy summer wear”. Crowds like Michigan vs Ohio State in Ann Arbor!
P-Town Brave
July 30th, 2010
4:15 pm
Anything on the G-Braves site about Minor?
Me
July 30th, 2010
4:15 pm
@Nick.. I am from SC also.. No DishNetwork doesnt carry PTV… They did last year and when i couldnt get it this year , I called them to report it and they said they were not going to carryPTV anymore… SUX huh… I cant stand it when they r on PTV cause i can only listen to it on the radio..Even did the MLB.TV thinking I could watch it online but all the Braves games are blacked out to us so dont waste your money on MLB>TV…
Snotboogie
July 30th, 2010
4:15 pm
Feels like something is going down.
Famous last words from aboard The Hindenburg.
Lpad
July 30th, 2010
4:16 pm
Really hope the braves get Ellsbury, that’s a short and long term solution to centerfield. We need to take advantage of Boston’s win now attitude.
Skip & Pete Fan
July 30th, 2010
4:16 pm
Peachtree is available on DISH outside ATL. Check the sports alternate channels the next Peachtree game. Somewhere in the 440’s!
KC
July 30th, 2010
4:16 pm
Chop Chop, what am I agreeing with N8 on here? Or did you mean RC?
Jlowe
July 30th, 2010
4:16 pm
Its McCutcheon
Crime Dog
July 30th, 2010
4:17 pm
Guys, Minor hasn’t been scratched. Seriously, the rumor was started by Nick. Nick is the one who started the rumor. NICK.
(For those who don’t comment here regularly, Nick is a tool)
ALinRIC
July 30th, 2010
4:17 pm
Ellsbury is also a top rate defender in CF. Read: a true gold glove OF and not Nate McLouth. One would think that a good defensive CF in Fenway Park, where CF seems to just go-and-go-and-go with nooks and crannies at each turn, would excel in Atlanta’s relatively average dimensions.
It’s happy hour folks. I’m off to do my part. Let’s hope Wren doesn’t screw it up for me.
amicusterrae
July 30th, 2010
4:17 pm
How tight is our payroll that we sell Mitch Jones to the Pirates for cash?
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2010
4:17 pm
Mitch Jones was traded for cash considerations.
Ah, that must be to pay off the debt accrued from acquiring Noboa.
bravesfaninnc
July 30th, 2010
4:17 pm
I wonder why would we trade Mitch Jones for Cash
Marc in FL
July 30th, 2010
4:17 pm
Would love Jacob in a Braves Uni, might as well just pass if Cody is the best you can do.
Good read DOB!
Snotboogie
July 30th, 2010
4:17 pm
Source: #Braves still on Ross, two other teams “coming hard.” #Marlins’ willingness to move him still in question. Would need big offer #MLB
Marlins are in the Ideal situation for maximizing returns for a player they would non-tender in 2 months anyway.Knowing their penchant for stocking up on prospects, I say he is moved.
Joe
July 30th, 2010
4:17 pm
no CSS on dish but peachtree is ch. 17
coach
July 30th, 2010
4:18 pm
Minor and Mclouth to Boston for Ellsbury and Lowell
D. Lowe to Yankees for Vazquez
KK, Melky and minor leaguers to Dodgers for Kemp
JMAYNE
July 30th, 2010
4:18 pm
Minor is starting acoording to g-braves twitter. that was like 10 minutes ago…so subject to change i guess
N8
July 30th, 2010
4:18 pm
“The Phillies have a better 1-4….but you can hang on the fact that you have a better #5″ Robert
Let’s break down the rotation.
#1’s: Halladay/Hudson… Halladay has a 2.21 ERA, Hudson a 2.40 ERA. Both are having EXCELLENT seasons. Roy has him in IP. So what? Braves bullpen trumps the Phillies bullpen. So as much as people would like to give this one to Halladay. It’s closer to a push than most think.
#2’s: JJJ/Hamels. Hamels has been pretty damn conistent since May first. Posting an ERA under 2.86 in each month. April wasn’t bad either at 3.60. Ironically, Jurrjens has a 2.84 ERA since his return. Which is obviously much closer to what he’s done for his short career, rather than the injury laden spring and April he had. Again. Push as far as I’m concerned.
#3’s: Hanson/Oswalt. Veteran prescence and experience obviously goes to Oswalt. But as I pointed out earlier today, take out Hanson’s back to back horrible starts against the White Sox and Tigers and he has a 3.12 ERA. Oswalt had a horrible June and has bounced back with a very nice July. I don’t know? Maybe a slight not to Oswalt for being the veteran? But when you look at what he’s done against the NL East (especially the Braves), I’m not so sure. In 2 games against the Phillies this year, hanson is 2-0 with a 2.38 ERA. Easily could be a push.
#4’s & #5’s: Lowe & Medlen/Kendrick and ??? Kendrick has a 4.44 ERA and Lowe’s has a 4.58 ERA. So you’re right Robert. It’s another push. Medlen is CLEARLY better than anybody the Phils will throw out in the 5 spot.
You claim that the 5th starter won’t make a difference? Guess again buddy. For starters, the Phillies have that 24 game in 23 day stretch. So for at least 5 times through the rotation, they can’t skip the 5th starter. And if you calculate that each team has about 60 games left after this weakent and divide that by 5, you get 12 more starts (give or take) for each team’s 5th starter.
You tell me that if we had KK making 12 more starts, that wouldn’t make you nervous.
The whole rotation could be thought of as a push. But hell, why not make “Lowe” the #1 if Hallady is night and day above anybody we’ve got. Concede it. Then we’re CLEARY better at 2-5 in the rotation, right?
Braves bullpen is better. Braves bench is better. Braves schedule is better. Phillies have us beat on 1 starter in the rotation and the lineup and that’s questionable with Utley and Victorino out.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2010
4:18 pm
I’ll take your word for it Anders. I don’t spend my Summers in Texas nor my free time analyzing the state’s sports markets
GTSteve
July 30th, 2010
4:18 pm
@MiaBchBravesFan …Billy Beer, I love it…wait, I love the reference, not the product
Memphis
July 30th, 2010
4:19 pm
I live in West Tennessee and I get PeachTree on Dish. It’s an alternate channel in the 440’s. Only comes on when Braves play. No commercials. Just strictly Braves baseball. Everygame that’s been on PeachTree I’ve seen.
noleeeee
July 30th, 2010
4:19 pm
Minor is minor
timthebrave
July 30th, 2010
4:19 pm
Hillbilly, Kawakami, Dunn, and Chavez sitting in the bullpen:}
Kenshin: “Hey Chay-vez. How come they ain’t playin’ us?”
Mike Dunn: “We’re in the spirit world, @zzhole. They can’t see us.”
very funny….ha
TRADE
July 30th, 2010
4:19 pm
Why in the world would Booston trade Elckirburger?
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2010
4:20 pm
ALinRIC–hey, just going with the info I have at hand. I’ve heard good things about Ellsbury’s defense, but didn’t the Sox move him to LF when they acquired Cameron? That’s gotta say something.
McLeeeeeeeeeew
July 30th, 2010
4:20 pm
Figured I’d go back to the longer name – maybe it will get Marteeeeen and Mac back to their hot hitting selves.
Reality Check-I agree with you on that – a well stocked cabinet of antacids would be a good thing. Maybe stock in Pepcid AC.
Kashi
July 30th, 2010
4:20 pm
Get Adam LaRoache we will be fine and win Division.
Jinx-eeeeee
July 30th, 2010
4:20 pm
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BuckheadBrave
July 30th, 2010
4:20 pm
The Braves were on TBS nationally broadcast in the 70’s and 80’s but I dont think anyone then would have said Atlanta was a big market. It has nothing to do with national following. Its referring to the size of the media market and who will see them locally. Atlanta’s is huge because the metro area blew up but also because it covers such a large geographic area, i dont think there is another media market in north gerogia unless dalton has local channels.
ThePriceisWrongBitch!
July 30th, 2010
4:20 pm
Please stop it with the I’d rather have Blanco in CF nonsense! If Blanco were that good, he’d be the Braves leadoff hitter.
-John in NY
Nonsense? Check out Blanco’s stats bro. I have no clue why he is not our starting CF at this point…
P-Town Brave
July 30th, 2010
4:20 pm
Coach-
You may have had us til you got to that LA Offer…short of Hanson or Jurrjens +, we’re not getting Kemp
The Hitting Fool
July 30th, 2010
4:20 pm
So many talk about Diaz not hitting righties….Has anyone done a comparison on how well the other Braves hits Lefties??? MMMMhhhhhhh
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2010
4:20 pm
I think N8 incorrectly typed KC instead of RC.
It’s on the second page. I could link to the post, but I’d prefer you scroll for it. Hahaha.
But you have to admit that it would be real cats and dogs stuff.
Barnacle Bill
July 30th, 2010
4:20 pm
coach, other teams’ GM’s aren’t already drinking today as you apparently are…
RC
July 30th, 2010
4:21 pm
KC, I think N8 mistakenly agreed with you for one of my posts earlier…or something like that. Either way, if you think that Lowe and Medlen are better than Kendrick and whoever the hell the Phillies 5th starter is, then just go with it.