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Coach (2011 or Bust)
July 29th, 2010
2:16 pm
This game is about to get dunked. The rain is coming right at the ball park.
Carroll Rogers
July 29th, 2010
2:16 pm
we’re in a delay as of 2:15.
Rob From SC...Chipper's new BFF (3 Game Streak)
July 29th, 2010
2:16 pm
Mark
Play the hot hand…That is all I ask
flbrave
July 29th, 2010
2:16 pm
Rob from SC
Perhaps a platoon duty in left with Diaz and Hinske?
Mark
July 29th, 2010
2:16 pm
Nah, looks like it’s gonna move through quick…
dickfer
July 29th, 2010
2:16 pm
and fail
dylan
July 29th, 2010
2:16 pm
There are NO Braves rumors whatsoever.
JasonInFL
July 29th, 2010
2:16 pm
Actually, Houston is sending 11 Mill to the Phils as well.
Mitchell
July 29th, 2010
2:16 pm
Hey Chris!
July 29th, 2010
2:01 pm
Did I mention that the Phils haven’t lost a game since they fired their hitting coach Milt Thompson? Just saying……
Just saying? Well what else is there to say?
They weren’t hitting. It’s a business. If you’re not getting results, you’re gone.
That’s an example of an organization that respects the expectations of its fan base. Is it easy to say that it was a good move based on the Phillies recent seven game win streak? Yes. Plenty of times it’s a move made in haste or desperation (Cubs for example), but it’s something that in my opinion was justified.
It’s a business decision but not one you would see in Atlanta because the Braves aren’t a business, they’re a family. We couldn’t possibly do that to TP. He won a batting title nineteen years ago. He’s the best.
TnBrian
July 29th, 2010
2:16 pm
Ok Melky … you’re left handed. Hit left handed and that’s it. You can’t hit sh** from the right side. How does he not realize this? Or does he think he has more value as being labled a swutch hitter? Yeah, right.
chilidog75
July 29th, 2010
2:16 pm
Melky. A walk would have worked there, man. Geez. Especially if youre going to take a slap little swing and ground out to second. What’s the point in getting into a hitter’s count if you’re going to take a swing like that?
Oh well. Got one back. But Babe Desmond is due to hit this inning.
UNCBrave
July 29th, 2010
2:17 pm
melky walks as much as FRANCOUER
jayvee
July 29th, 2010
2:17 pm
Good thing the bench players are bringin’ it. The top of the lineup is moribund.
bravesfaninnc
July 29th, 2010
2:18 pm
Carroll how long you expect the delay to last? ty
Rob From SC...Chipper's new BFF (3 Game Streak)
July 29th, 2010
2:18 pm
flbrave
Rode Matty when he is hot
Nova Scotia Steve
July 29th, 2010
2:18 pm
Ready for a 5 hour rain delay?
Blog could get interesting
Steve from OH
July 29th, 2010
2:19 pm
So, sounds like Happ, Gose and Worley for Oswalt. Not impressed with the deal for the ‘Stros at all.
cheshire
July 29th, 2010
2:19 pm
ugh. i’m sure i’m going to get criticized for being too negative, but this sucks soooooo bad. a week ago it felt like we were on top of the world. then half our players forget how to play, our lead gets cut in half in a matter of 1 weekend, and the Phillies just went out and got ANOTHER ace. after watching this team blow it so many times for 20 years, i’m having a hard time summoning the strength to keep watching this team.
someone please encourage me or give me some good news!!! i don’t care if you have to make it up… i’m so depressed right now…
chilidog75
July 29th, 2010
2:19 pm
You guys say play the hot hand and Diaz should be playing more — hasn’t Hinske been hitting the ball well, too?
You want Diaz to play for Heyward?
Personally, I wouldnt mind Hinske playing 1B a few games and letting Diaz get more starts in the OF, but by and large this platoon thing is working out OK for leftfield. It’s center field that is the huge gaping hole.
Howza Bout
July 29th, 2010
2:19 pm
Folks think about how the Braves got the lead in the division?
Troy Glaus carried the team in May and part of June. Hinske played great, in fact over his head. Heyward had big hit after big hit for a while before getting hurt. Hudson has been lights out. Prado has been worthy of league MVP in the first half.
What I’m getting at is this. Other than Hudson’s performance, could anyone have expected the great performances by the above personnel?
Can Glaus be expected to match what he did for two months? Can Hinske, a backup roleplayer, be expected to continue to perform at a high level? Heyward is a keeper but can’t expect him to be the horse that gets the Braves to the promised land this year. Prado is great but can you depend on him to be “the guy?”
Mac and Chip stunk it up for a good part of the first half but even now that they are hitting better do you really think they will provide the offense the Braves must have?
Hadn’t even talked about the dream season that Conrad has had.
It was a perfect storm. Lots of contributors, lots of contributions. Now it seems they are coming back to earth at the same time. Wish I could expect these players to heat back up but many of them have been playing over their head so you can’t expect that to repeat itself.
It’s a mediocre team, folks!
UNCBrave
July 29th, 2010
2:19 pm
Braves STANDING AT at the Trade Deadline while the Phillies are making moves…
FRANK WREN SUCKS….He hasn’t gotten an OF BIG BAT in 2 years!!
dylan
July 29th, 2010
2:19 pm
Carroll, Is FW at the game today?
Rob From SC...Chipper's new BFF (3 Game Streak)
July 29th, 2010
2:19 pm
Ride
gene garbage
July 29th, 2010
2:19 pm
how bout, Prado, Infante(RF), Heyward(CF), McCann, Hinske(1B), Jones, Diaz, Gonzales…
Rob From SC...Chipper's new BFF (3 Game Streak)
July 29th, 2010
2:20 pm
UNCBrave
Who do you want Wren to get?
faninva
July 29th, 2010
2:20 pm
weather.com says the rain should end by 4pm.
cbweathermaneeeee
July 29th, 2010
2:20 pm
Well the good news is that this should end DLowe’s day…
Mark
July 29th, 2010
2:20 pm
Man, I miss Braves playoff games…
UNCBrave
July 29th, 2010
2:20 pm
Braves STANDING PAT at the Trade Deadline while the Phillies are making moves…
FRANK WREN SUCKS….He hasn’t gotten an OF BIG BAT in 2 years!!
Steve from OH
July 29th, 2010
2:20 pm
There are NO Braves rumors whatsoever
This is surprising to you? How long you been following the Braves?
CopenhagenBravesFan
July 29th, 2010
2:20 pm
For once I get to watch a Braves game live (living in Copenhagen, Denmark – 6 hours ahead of you guys) and then first Lowe’s poor pitching and now this damn rain delay (I don’t know what is worse…)
chilidog75
July 29th, 2010
2:21 pm
Has it been reported as fact how much the Phillies are going to owe Oswalt?
Nick
July 29th, 2010
2:21 pm
Now that the Phils got oswalt, if the Braves do nothing, I’m calling season!
Carroll Rogers
July 29th, 2010
2:21 pm
this rainis no fooling. there’s a creepy whistling when the wind blows against the press box windows
Mark
July 29th, 2010
2:21 pm
Man, I miss when Chipper was good..
Danga
July 29th, 2010
2:21 pm
Radar shows storm clearing out in the next 30 mins to hour.
BravoMan
July 29th, 2010
2:22 pm
UNCBrave
Oh is the deadline over?
Mark
July 29th, 2010
2:22 pm
Man, I miss when Andruw was on steroids….Man, I miss David Justice….
JasonInFL
July 29th, 2010
2:22 pm
OH Steve, especially considering how much money the Astros are sending as well!!!
BC
July 29th, 2010
2:22 pm
Did Heyward hurt his thumb last night when he dropped his bat on that strikeout? He is hitting like it is hurt again..
GT Fan
July 29th, 2010
2:23 pm
Steve, especially since they’re sending money too. It’d be one thing if they wanted unload his salary, but it sounds like they’re not even doing that. Either they’ve got higher opinions of these prospects than most people, or they’re really getting hosed.
TheAntiMe
July 29th, 2010
2:23 pm
Liberty Media is to Ted Turner as Rankin Smith is to Arthur Blank. Good news for the Falcons but bad news for the Braves.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 29th, 2010
2:23 pm
Well the good news is that this should ends Scott Olsen’s day.
Well the good news is that this should end DLowe’s day…Steve from OH
July 29th, 2010
2:23 pm
Jason–exactly! If I’m sending that much cash I want a little something more than Happ and Gose for my ace. A lot of question marks with both players.
bravesfaninnc
July 29th, 2010
2:23 pm
Btw i was wondering with alt of new ball park and with a tarp that covers the infield.Why are sometime games are called of when it an official game? is because of team have to fly after the game or it more to do with how much Rain the infield can take ?
JasonInFL
July 29th, 2010
2:24 pm
Needed The Dud to actually get a big hit in his last AB. But, of course, he is The Dud.
BravoMan
July 29th, 2010
2:24 pm
Nick
I hate to agree with you, but if we stand pat at the deadline our offense won’t be enough to fight off the Phils with Brown and Oswalt giving them a boost
dylan
July 29th, 2010
2:24 pm
Well I figured FW would want to let BC end with a bang. But i guess not.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 29th, 2010
2:24 pm
Mark: look at May and you will find that Troy Glaus has “carried” this team for a total of four weeks – the last three of May and the first week of June. Those four weeks have been sandwiched by total “McLouth-ness”.
Wooderson
July 29th, 2010
2:24 pm
WREN HAS HIS HANDS TIED PEOPLE!!! HE CANT GET THE BIG BAT WE ALL WANT WITHOUT GIVING UP SOME COMBINATION OF MIKE MINOR, TEHERAN, MEDLEN, KIMBREL ETC… OTHER TEAMS WANT OUR YOUNG PITCHERS!! THAT IS WHAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE!!
gene garbage
July 29th, 2010
2:24 pm
lets see if Philly goes into DC and sweeps the Nats..
Danga
July 29th, 2010
2:25 pm
Either they’ve got higher opinions of these prospects than most people, or they’re really getting hosed.
Probably both. A perusal of the Astros farm system doesn’t lead you to believe they are very good at identifying talent.
cheshire
July 29th, 2010
2:25 pm
Howza Bout, i hate everything you’re saying and i want to argue with you in defense of the Braves, but i can’t. I’m terrified everything you said is true.
Mark
July 29th, 2010
2:25 pm
Nick, I just can’t bring myself to believe that you would call ‘Season.’ You’re just not the give-up type of guy…
JasonInFL
July 29th, 2010
2:25 pm
Astros…morons. No wonder they suck. Haven’t been good since the Steroid Duo left. Maybe we can get someone to give us a bat for no one and pay half of the salary. What the heck.
since57
July 29th, 2010
2:25 pm
Hate the Phillies, but gotta give them props for wanting it and going after it. They are not done yet while we sit on our thumbs. Say all you want about Oswalt not being what he once was, he will give them the confidence, innings and performance to fly by the Braves. Braves look like they could care less and that is not near as much fun as a few weeks ago.
myra
July 29th, 2010
2:25 pm
Do u remember Andrew Jones hit 51 hr’s.
Is that not frikin funny now?
That top 25 Braves show is fun for us old 20 yr+ fans.
bravesfaninnc
July 29th, 2010
2:26 pm
Guys please stop posting with the Cap lock on
Steve from OH
July 29th, 2010
2:26 pm
Danga–yep. Plus there was a report that said McLane negotiated the deal himself. Oy.
Fols
July 29th, 2010
2:26 pm
They better not call the game……they got all day!
Notice our entire blog of predicted line-ups are all around platoons? Why don’t we just get regular starters that know how to play ball so we don’t have to platoon?
Jesse Stone
July 29th, 2010
2:26 pm
I see the Chicken Little convention has begun.
GT Fan
July 29th, 2010
2:27 pm
dylan, I would imagine FW is back in Atlanta working the phones. I could be wrong, though.
Gone Viral
July 29th, 2010
2:27 pm
“So, sounds like Happ, Gose and Worley for Oswalt. Not impressed with the deal for the ‘Stros at all.”
They got from under the onus of Oswalt’s contract. That’s a win in and of itself but this does reinforce that it’s a buyer’s market right now.
Mark
July 29th, 2010
2:27 pm
So MiaBch, what do you do with him? Nobody wants him now so you can’t trade him…You can’t bring up a rookie in the middle of the pennant race….You can’t send him down or DFA him, his numbers aren’t bad enough….There is no good answer before July 31st…
Gone Viral
July 29th, 2010
2:28 pm
“You’re just not the give-up type of guy…”
Hilarious!
Mark
July 29th, 2010
2:28 pm
I loved the 80s Braves even though they were awful…
Steve from OH
July 29th, 2010
2:28 pm
GV–true. If that’s the haul for Oswalt I’m much more confident that the prices for the bats will come down. I’m thinking Wren is waiting on the Rox.
Wooderson
July 29th, 2010
2:29 pm
Jesus Christ!! WTF are the ASTROS doing???? no wonder they are in the cellar… giving up their franchise ace for J.A. Happ(coming off an injury) and some mediocre prospects???? WTF HOUSTON???
Steve from OH
July 29th, 2010
2:29 pm
But they’re still paying half of the contract, GV. Not exactly a complete win for them.
JasonInFL
July 29th, 2010
2:29 pm
GV, don’t forget the money the ‘Stros are sending though.
Braves One
July 29th, 2010
2:29 pm
Carroll Rogers
July 29th, 2010
2:21 pm
this rainis no fooling. there’s a creepy whistling when the wind blows against the press box windows
—————————————————
That may the ’sucking’ sound of Frank Wren leaving the ball park.
meh
July 29th, 2010
2:29 pm
the Braves are gonna have to get some more offense. cuz if they roll up on the Phillies having to face Halladay, Hamels, Oswalt in three game seires its gonna be rough.
CopenhagenBravesFan
July 29th, 2010
2:29 pm
Escobar fitting in just fine with new club:
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100729&content_id=12767420&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
So what can the Jays do that the Braves couldn’t…
chilidog75
July 29th, 2010
2:29 pm
So … how much will the Phillies have to pay Oswalt? Anyone? Anyone?
Supes
July 29th, 2010
2:30 pm
Astros showing why they are going to continue too suck if those are the player they are getting back.
I’d hate to be an Astros fan…nobody to get excited about in those 3 players rumored to be going back to Houston. Plus they have an aging Carlos Lee who is in decline as well as Lance Berkman who has been a shadow of his former self this season. Those 2 have a lot of their payroll tied up and aren’t producing….Makes u think of Chipper/Lowe/McOUT and KK’s payroll versus production
JasonInFL
July 29th, 2010
2:30 pm
I do agree…hopefully this is a sign that the prices will start to come down on some of the hitters as well.
cheshire
July 29th, 2010
2:31 pm
i can handle having the Braves crush my hopes (i’m actually pretty used to it by now), but there’s just something so horrible about it being the Phillies. they run out and buy superstars whenever they need to, that fanbase is horrendous, and that city is the like the armpit of the east coast. it would be so much more bearable if it were the Nats or the Marlins.
Mark
July 29th, 2010
2:31 pm
I’m glad to see this happen to the ‘Stros….I still remember ‘05…
Mitchell
July 29th, 2010
2:32 pm
Mark
July 29th, 2010
2:20 pm
Man, I miss Braves playoff games…
So what was your favorite part of getting embarrassed by inferior teams in front of a national audience?
Fols
July 29th, 2010
2:32 pm
Don’t point out Escobar’s stats without mentioning playing for nothing on a Jays team that was eliminated in spring training! Not the same scenerio.
Pameeeeeee
July 29th, 2010
2:32 pm
Not worried about the Phllies, not worried about the Astros I just think that this is good for Oswalt. The guy pitches his arse off and the Astros suck so bad. Now, if he pitches as he usually pitch he can get wins. I just feel a connection to players more that I do to organizations and owners. All hard working people should receive some reward at the end of a days work. Congratulations to the man.
It is up to the Braves organization to see to the Braves and not what the Phillies and Mets are doing.
murphy47
July 29th, 2010
2:33 pm
Beautiful… were about to lose a series to a way below .500 team…didnt see their ace… and the starting 3 we did see of theirs had COMBINED 9 wins this year. Lowe, im so $%^&^%$@ sick of his usuall anywhere from 5 to 5 2/3ds…what a joke. Way to step up and go 7-8 strong against a team 15 games below .500 for the series win Lowe,…just terrible. Pray to the good lord for a comeback!!
Nova Scotia Steve
July 29th, 2010
2:33 pm
So what can the Jays do that the Braves couldn’t…
Stronger beers and canadian bacon.
Wooderson
July 29th, 2010
2:33 pm
I cant believe how much of a steal this is for PHILLY!!! They get another ace on their staff, and all they give up is a pitcher coming off an injury and two no-name prospects???? YOUR MOVE WREN
Braves One
July 29th, 2010
2:33 pm
If Frank Wren and the Braves “stand pat”, they may as well be saying, “Wait ’til next year!”
Chip Caray's Eyebrows
July 29th, 2010
2:33 pm
Anyone who thinks the Braves should make a move because the Phils got Oswalt doesn’t understand baseball. You don’t make reactionary moves like that. The Braves should make a move for a big bat because they need one. They have needed one for several years yet refuse to address it. Whether the Phils get Oswalt is really inconsequential. As fans does it make us anxious? You bet. But it would be a bad move by Wren to stand pat regardless of whether the Phils acquired Oswalt because there is a need. Just like it would be a bad move to aquire someone if there wasn’t a need to just to match the move. The people I don’t get are the folks who think this team is set with the current group of outfielders they run out there on a nightly basis. Get a bat Wren because there is a need.
dylan
July 29th, 2010
2:34 pm
GT FAN, I was thinking that, or he has like six cell phones with him, maybe he is shaking hands with another GM, saying “Thank You”
Howza Bout
July 29th, 2010
2:35 pm
“WREN HAS HIS HANDS TIED PEOPLE!!! HE CANT GET THE BIG BAT WE ALL WANT WITHOUT GIVING UP SOME COMBINATION OF MIKE MINOR, TEHERAN, MEDLEN, KIMBREL ETC… OTHER TEAMS WANT OUR YOUNG PITCHERS!! THAT IS WHAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE!!”
Not often you get a quality player without giving up some quality yourself. So including Hanson, JJ, Venters and couple others already on the big league roster….. what are you going to do with all those pitchers? Sit them on your mantle and look at them?
Gone Viral
July 29th, 2010
2:35 pm
“GV, don’t forget the money the ‘Stros are sending though.”
The thing about that is Oswalt still makes $20 million between now and the end of next season. He also has the 2012 $16 million option that the team will receive local pressure to earn. So while the money sent back in the deal seems like a lot, it’s only 60% of what they would have had to pay, or 33% once we factor in the option. In this day and age, those big money contracts have to go to players who earn them. Oswalt hasn’t done that from the 2008-2010 period. If I’m a Phillies fan, I’m livid over the turn of events that took Cliff Lee off the team only to bring in an inferior pitcher later.
GT Fan
July 29th, 2010
2:35 pm
CopenhagenBravesFan, there’s multiple theories for that. Among them…
1) The Jays’ clubhouse isn’t as “professional” as the Braves.
2) Being traded jolted Escobar a bit.
3) I don’t think everyone in the Braves’ clubhouse wanted to see the back of Escobar when he first came up. Heck, before last season, the rumor was the Braves wouldn’t include him in a deal for Peavy because they felt he was a cornerstone-type player. Give him some time to wear out his welcome.
cheshire
July 29th, 2010
2:36 pm
Pameeeeee, good points. The Braves are where they are right now because of what their players are failing to do, not because of what the Phillies are doing.
You don’t blame this stuff on the GM of another team… you blame it on players who are paid to lead this team and perform, then fail to do so. Yeah, i’m looking at you Lowe, you douchebag.
Shaun
July 29th, 2010
2:36 pm
From the last blog from buttermaker: “Just a question for the RBI debate. If a player comes up in a sac fly situation and is able to work a pitcher and get a ball lifted to the outfield and another player can’t,doesn’t that say that one player did his job better than the other?”
a) One inferior hitter could get a lot more opportunities to get sac-fly RBI’s than another superior hitter.
b) An inferior hitter with certain a certain skill-set may have a better chance to hit a sac fly than a better hitter. Basically a free-swinger who is not very good overall and who overall cost the team runs may have a better chance to drive in runs via sac flies and such than a better overall hitter.
TnBrian
July 29th, 2010
2:36 pm
“So what could the Jays do that the Braves couldn’t”
Lose. Lose alot. See, they have no pressure up there and having an arrogant little Cuban who’s whiny is no problem for them. What else have they got to be entertained with up there? They sure as hell won’t pass the Yankees, Red Sox, Rays in that division anytime in the next century.
CraZyTRaDeMaN
July 29th, 2010
2:37 pm
Its time to trade all players except for Heyward, Prado and Hanson. Close up shop board up the Ted its over. Frank Wren is worthless Bobby Cox is worthless Terry P. is worthless. I hate this team it sucks. There is nothing we can do to beat the Phils. AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
/////sarcasm\\\\\
CopenhagenBravesFan
July 29th, 2010
2:37 pm
Don’t point out Escobar’s stats without mentioning playing for nothing on a Jays team that was eliminated in spring training! Not the same scenerio.
- it has nothing to do with that. The case of Esco shows that baseball is very much a mental game (just like golf), not only mechanics etc.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 29th, 2010
2:38 pm
Anyone who thinks the Braves should make a move because the Phils got Oswalt doesn’t understand baseball.
Oswalt or not.
Atlanta needs to improve their offense.
bravesfaninnc
July 29th, 2010
2:38 pm
From twitter Source: Oswalt has accepted deal.
Shaun
July 29th, 2010
2:38 pm
Pameeeeee, good points. The Braves are where they are right now because of what their players are failing to do, not because of what the Phillies are doing.
Let me see if I understand. You have a problem with where the Braves are right now? You have a problem with the Braves being in first place over the favorites in the NL East coming into the season and the 2-time defending NL champions? This is what they mean by you can’t please everybody.
Jesse Stone
July 29th, 2010
2:39 pm
Yunel can claim the center ring of the circus in the land of LaBatt’s
Howza Bout
July 29th, 2010
2:39 pm
I don’t think the Braves need to make a move because the Phils got Oswalt. I think the Braves need to make a move because their offense is in need of a run producer who can add a spark to our offense.
The team was already struggling offensively BEFORE the Phils got Oswalt. Has nothing to do with Oswalt. Has everything to do with the Braves impotent run production.