Steve: I agree. The Braves never eat money. The only wacky contract trade they ever made was for Hampton, and the Braves were truly snakebit there. Unless Wren gets truly creative in the off-season, the troika of Lowe, KK, and Mclouth will be with us for the life of the contract.
KK and DLowe might squeeze him on the third front, but I doubt it.
I think it’s almost a certainty that Kawakami is traded and the Braves pick up part of the tab. Or they acquire a bad contract too, and it’s just a swap of those.
the braves are in a tail spin. We have been playing over our heads for months now.
The only way this team picks up the pace is to get some excitement back.
That comes by making a move.
the phillies are doing what it takes to win and playing for now!
the braves always say they are playing for next year.
Move Medlen back to the bullpen and put Chavez in AAA.
Bring up Minor for the fifth starter.
Seems to me like it solves the reliever situation and would allow Frank Wren to look at getting that desperately need bat. If there is one thing that can be filled internally its pitching
Before I spent money on a Guillen or Berkman that would cost and hurt the defense, I would go get Jim Edmonds and put him in CF for 2 months…He’s been there, his numbers have been good, my question would be his health…
How did this happen??!?!!? How did we go from 7.5 games up to 2.5 in a matter of a week!?!?!?!?!?!
Over the last 8 days, the Phillies have gone 8-0. The Braves, in that same time period, have gone 3-5. There. Just like that, 5 games. Those damn Phils are, dare I say, a gritty, gutty bunch.
Tell you what, here’s a couple of moves that won’t cost us too much for the return. Let’s talk to KC about moving Greinke and Guillen for Medlen, Delgado, Dunn and Diaz. Then turn around and talk to the Rays about acquiring BJ Upton for Cabrera, Schafer and Hoover. The outfield would be fixed. And we would increase our speed on the roster plus strenghten our pitching for a short playoff series.
I wish the Braves would shake the baseball world up with a trade for a player like Justin Upton, he has a contract loaded more heavily to the back and would be part of a long term solution for the outfield. Arizona seems to be in a sell mode,maybe some of our top pitching prospects could get it done.
The Braves will always covet pitching over position players in the minors. I think that is probably a good thing long term. The position playrs that were nearly can’t miss in this organization are gone because they didn’t improve when they came to the majors. Either management doesn’t know how to evaluate or the coaching at the major league level was lacking. This will not change until it’s addressed. Time for a hitting coach change because this is a young mans game now and veterans are falling by the wayside without chemical help. I can only think of three players that have excelled under this current staff out of probably 20 that came up and are gone. If this is normal for the sample size then bad on me but this is the Braves biggest problem beside budget. Name one guy that came up and started besides McCann, Prado and Hayward that improved under this staff. Actually saw Yunel smile the other night with Toronto…Never happened here becasue the big boys that are all leaving and don’t have his talent didn’t like him. Maybe he told somebody it wasn’t a popularity contest.”We love Nate” but he s-cks! “We hated Yunel” but he can flat deal.
I would think that would really help out the arms in the bullpen. If meds can come in and close out the 7th and the 8th occasionally that would save them big time.
TennesseePaul, part of it is luck with the Phillies. I mean, these things just keep coming right into their wheelhouse. I don’t think they have the best front office in the sport. Howard’s extension and the Ibanez contract weren’t the smartest moves in the world. But they certainly know that they have pressure to win the World Series every year(similar to the Sox and Yankees), and they sh!t done to succeed. Good time to be a Phillies fan.
chipper can’t hit 6th, it’s still an rbi slot, with his walks, the only places chip can hit are 2nd or 8th, and we know bobby won’t hit him 8th (just as we know that bobby won’t move him out of 3rd)
and trading for a big bat would be pointless, because bobby ain’t moving chip, mccann, or glaus out of 3,4,5 on a regular basis
TommyP-Never thought you’d understand the concept of negativity – you’ve lived there too long yourself. Yeah, go ahead and tellus your opinion and guess what? I’ll tell you mine. That’s kind of the way it works.
And no, saying you need a bat isn’t negative – you might see that I’ve mentioned the possibility myself. It’s those that continually gripe about things like “Why hasn’t Wren made a move Yet?” and “The Phillies are bound to leave us in the dust now” and Chiupper Jones is the root of all evil because he can’t hit ..320 anymore” that I consider negative.
And guess what Dude? I’m going to keep commenting on the negativity of those comments ((and you can complain about me doing so). All I care about is that compared to the past four years, I sure as sh!t like where we are this yer a lot better and realize that (ordinarily) the Braves play the Phillies even up the second half. Go ahead and moan, wail and wring your hands about our chances. I’m not intending to do the same.
Baseball Prospecuts, according to a couple of different methods they use, still have the Braves winning 91-92 games. The pressure is still on the Phillies, folks, for all of you who think the Braves have to make a big move.
efrim, the phillies have certainly been aggressive that last few years, and it has worked out good for them. i wonder though, when it does come time for the ML team to be restocked, what they will do.
All I am saying is our lead off hitter has double the hr of Chipper and also has a lot of rbi, nuttin wrong with a little switcheroo and leaving the light hitting but regular OBP guy as leadoff (Infante)… could even rest TROY a few games with such a move and play Hinske or Omar at 1B occasionally.. troy needs to rest the knee for a good week by the looks of his swing and his run
Yeah DAP…I think they are being really aggressive in this window they have available. But I’m not sure how many more seasons they’ll be able to keep it going.
Shaun,I do very much understand. It would take a lot to get him and it may be impossible but would love to have the outfield situation cleared up for the future.
BTW Y’all – All artists tend to collect piles of unfinished artwork, preparatory sketches and all sorts of stuff they’ll never use again.
I cleaned out a few of those piles yesterday and came up with some stuff maybe y’all would like (or not). Nothing all that phenomenal, but some decent sketches and drawings of players we no longer have, I couldn’t get signed, or just used as practice that I’ d be willing to give away (like I said – IF anyone’s interested). Same rules apply – email me lewhartman@comcast.net with your real name and address and there will be (as usual ) no charge – even for postage – just donate a few bucks to your homeless shelter, food bank or womens’ shelter.
It will be a grab bag approach – I’ll stack them up and go throught the emails and match them with whoever is first, etc. You could end up with a Smoltz or Chipper -even an Andruw piece, or could end up with Marcus Giles or Chuckie T. I’ll spare anyone the indignity of a (not very photogenic) Julio Franco or a Horacio Ramirez.
If interested. email away. If not, the land fill makes out on this one.
DAP and Danga – as long as the fillies use the Yankees approach and want to buy and keep filling that stadium they may be able to keep this up for years and years, 35k seats at $40 a pop or so makes a lot of loot over 81 games
the phillies have certainly been aggressive that last few years, and it has worked out good for them. i wonder though, when it does come time for the ML team to be restocked, what they will do.
It’s a good question, and one that’s been brought up a lot. They aren’t the youngest team, that’s for sure. I think all or most of their core besides Hamels and Brown are in their 30’s. They draft well, going for toolsy, athletic players with high upside, and depend on their player development staff to make it work. High risk, high reward. I don’t think they do it as well as the Red Sox, though. Anyway, getting to your point, there will come a time when their players begin to break down. You’ve already seen it a bit with Utley and Rollins.
dawgs-I’m from Philly. They are a large market, but dwindling as they’ve actually lost population the past couple opf censuses. They are also a very blue collar area (hit hard by unemployment) and their stadium is located closer to Deleware than NE Philly.
As l;ong as they can keep the stadium sold out, they’ll have some $$$, but the minute theyquit winning, they will clear out fast – just the way they are there.
They are at their limits and have damned little left in their farm system. Howard just signed a HUGE contract and the’ll already have to let Werth ride over the winter. They are rapidly approaching their upper salary limit and if Houston had not eaten $11 mil of Oswalt’s salary, they couldn’t have pulled this off. . It is an unsustainable situation.
as long as the fillies use the Yankees approach and want to buy and keep filling that stadium they may be able to keep this up for years and years, 35k seats at $40 a pop or so makes a lot of loot over 81 games
Yup, they sell out just about every game and I can’t imagine they will go below 130 million+ in payroll anytime soon.
DAP The Phillie will fix their problems with money. As long as they can out spend the Braves by 20 to 40 mil then, they can reload with money. But looking at the long term the Braves have been competitive 17 of the last 20 years. The organization must be doing something right.
Efrim, I agree. We are already seeing the signs that the Phillies’ window is starting to close. Any team that wins a pennant two straight seasons is going to regress. You can’t have that much talent around the same age and expect it to go on forever.
And, again, for all the Braves fans concerned about the Braves making a move, the Phillies are the one who had to panic and trade young players for Oswalt.
Gary O, I agree. While everyone is panicking, I see the Braves quietly taking two out of 3 from the Reds this weekend. The Phillies are extremely hot right now, but people need to realize that they have played a Rockies team that is in their worst slump since the beginning of last season and a bad, bad Diamondbacks team that is selling basically eveyone but a few guys. I see the Nationals playing the Phillies tough this weekend. If the Braves make a move, great. If not, no big deal.
As long as Glaus starts hitting more than the occasional weak single and Chipper stops hitting some of the weakest fly balls I have ever seen, they will be fine. Prado is the straw that stirs the drink. As he goes, the Braves go. I look for the Braves to come out fired up this weeekend and go on a tear.
They are at their limits and have damned little left in their farm system.
Lew, that’s just simply not true, man. Including Domonic Brown, they have three of the Top 50 prospects in the sport(Jon Singleton and Jarred Cosart) – plus other prospects like Jiwan James, Trevor May and Sebastian Valle that are highly thought of(not stars, though). The reason they are getting applauded in this Oswalt deal is that they didn’t have their farm system raped and pillaged.
dawgieswagbreggeee as long as the fillies use the Yankees approach and want to buy and keep filling that stadium they may be able to keep this up for years and years,
i dont know, man. i dont think the phillies could field a $100mil infield, even selling out all their home games.
besides, i havent exactly seen them signing lots of top free agents. they just locked up the ones they already had in their prime (and made some big trades). they arent going to be able to just go buy another utley, and their trade bait is going to run out eventually.
And I do agree that the Phillies window is starting to close, but it’s mainly because of the age of their major league roster and core stars. It’s not like Howard, Utley, Rollins, Werth, etc. are 26 years old.
All that said, they have a good farm system, and if they want, they can continue to empty it out to fill needs, knowing that they have a limited amount of time to win with the core that they have right now.
Its Seriously time to get Chipper out of the 3 hole
I simply Can’t Take It Anymore! I love Chipper but its time for the old slug to quit killing us in the 3 spot, put Prado or Gonzo in that spot if you must. Chipper is playing the Roger Dorn Role Hard this year on this team…
Efrim- I disagree. You can’t draft at the end of the draft continually (look at the Braves all those years) and end up with the top talent – which is what has happened with the Phillies the past couple years. In addition, they also traded a ton to get Halladay, to get Lee to begin with and didn’t get the same return trading Lee to the Mariners.
Who besides Brown is ready NOW? What pitching do they have stocked in the minors? SAlso, keep in mind they just traded a kid pitcher who was third in ROY voting and who was under contract another four or more years for a pitcher they will have for a bit more than a year (I don’t think he’s signed through 2012, but could be wrong) – nonetheless, they’ve lost a year or two there.
They will need to re sign Utley soon, replace Rollins, and find a viable longer term 3B and LF to replace Ibanez. I’m not seeing it coming from their farm and they already have a $!40 + mil salary.
Three of the top 50? They’ll end up trading them , too before all is said and done – just to try to eke out another winning year and keep all those billigerant butts filling their seasts.
coach smith – Maybe a longer term deal so they can move Prado to third when CHipper retires and have a 2B prospect in the wings? Doesn’t have to have an immediate impact – not all trades do.
Hardly fossils, folks. With exception to Halladay and Oswalt, their core can be productive for another five years. They’ll always find another starter when their five guys are hitting.
I saw above where someone said that Oswalt will add about 2 more wins the rest of the year. I was figuring 3…..so look at it this way….we’re tied. Let’s see what happens.
Maybe it’s been mentioned but one thing I noticed looking at the Phillies schedule:
Starting in the middle of August, they play 24 games in 23 days including traveling west for a week. Make no mistake, that will take it’s toll. There’ll be no skipping the #5 guy in the rotation (Blanton or Kendrick???) and they’ll even have to use a #6 once during a doubleheader or pitch everyone on three days rest.
That my friends is a tough stretch, especially during the latter part of a season. If they win this division, they will have earned it.
Efrim- I disagree. You can’t draft at the end of the draft continually (look at the Braves all those years) and end up with the top talent – which is what has happened with the Phillies the past couple years
Honestly, go tell the Red Sox that. They pay above slot for players and continue to have one of the best farm systems in baseball because they allocate quite a bit of funds on the Rule 4 draft and the international signing period. As you said, it’s far easier to do this by picking early in the draft, but it’s certainly not impossible to possess a very good farm system while picking in the back third every year as long as you forfeit large bonuses.
At this point in his career, I don’t think Berkman improves the team enough, considering the players the Braves would likely have to give up and Berkman’s contract or the additional talent they would have to give up for the Astros to take on significant portions of his contract.
Coach Smith By the way sorry to hear about the Alzheimer rumors. The second baseman for the D’back is a .220 hitting kid they sent to the DR to play. I do not know why they made the trade. Maybe the D’backs gave the Braves something for Kelly.
The Braves will make no move escept to possibly DH Glaus and promote Freeman. To win the the division would be nice but the Braves have more than enough to win the wildcard. No need to mortage the future when the Phillies are aging and their farm system is depleted. Just remmeber that if one of their pitchers slips, they don’t have the depth to replace him.
MiamiBch-However, Rollins has bad legs and had an OBP of (shades of Francoeur) .291 last year. Werth is gone in the offseason. Utley has now had several serious injuries and will require another HUGE contract in a while. That’s a good bit of their core right there. They won’t have those five guys together for long.
Shaun, not real sure it would take much to get that trade done. Houston could always resign him after this year if his option wasn’t picked and probably at a much reduced rate. To me, it would make for sense to trade him now and get what you can and then just resign him in the offseason. Everyone knows he loves the Houston area.
Right, but your pretty much exiting your prime at around 32, so we would expect their numbers to decline. Also, as you’ve seen with Rollins and Utley, they aren’t guarantees to play 150+ games every year. Not saying they are finished by 2011. But saying they have 5 more strong years left is a little much, in my opinion.
JoeFan, the teams vying for the wildcard are better than the Phillies. If we don’t have enough to win the division, I doubt we have enough to win the wildcard.
Efrim-I’m not going to try to debate the minors with you – you know more than I do. However, when talking Philly, I DO know what I’m talking about – was born and raised there and still have lots of contacts – including in their front office. They won’t be able to do it with their farm system. It will help them in some instances, but they can’t replace what they’ll need to replace in coming times(or with the same quality) from the farm. They just won’t.
If the Braves are dead now, why weren’t they dead back when they lost 9 in a row? Well, because there was a lot of baseball left to play after that 9 games losing streak. Just like there is a lot of baseball left to play now. Come on people, the Braves are still in a great position to make the playoffs no matter how many Negative Nellies there are on this blog.
If the Phillies were not as concerned about their farm and salary structure as I claim, they would NEVER have traded Lee to start the year. They needed the players they got to restock and really are at the end of their available salary. Just heard a report that the deal couldn’t go through until they brought in Big Guns over Ruben Jr.’s head to do a good bit of approving. They are NOT in the same shape as the Red Sox. They do NOT have that kind of $$$$$ and they do not have that kind of Farm System.
Chipper hit .364 at 35. Utley got his thumb caught under a bag. Rollins has a nagging calf pull/tear after years of good health, not a knee or shoulder. OK, four instead of five – still a run that many other teams would kill for.
Anyone seen the 5′7″ lhp Collins in AA Miss we got as part of the Yunel deal? Nice stats so far…6g, 8ip, 4h, 1r, 3bb, 14K. Just 20 yrs old. Another Wags? Or another Chuck n Duck?
We need a bat or we are doomed!!!! Chris Young from AZ needs to be in an ATL uniform by Sundays afternoon matinee….. This is getting serious. Phils are playing to win NOW obviously. Happ will be a lefty star, already is…. Anyway WE NEED A BAT WREN!!!!!!!!!!
(**Sidenote: How much BS is it that Matt Capps blows ATL away for 2 nights and then gets traded 9 minutes later???)
Chipper is the exception and not the rule. Say what you will about Rollins and his injury problems, but he has been in steady decline the last 2 seasons. Victorino is having a bad year and maybe that is all it is. Werth is gonzo after this year. We are not necessarily talking about them dropping off the face of the earth either, but rather a decline as they age. What if Utley goes from being one of the top 5 players in baseball to a top 20 player? These things matter. They have had a nice run, but my guess is we are watching the sunset rather than the high noon.
just happened to see the list of free agent 1stbaseman for this coming offseason. its a long list. can we expect wren to sign one of the righties to spell freeman a bit? freeman is making people notice him in AAA, so he will probbaly be ready for the ML club, but does he automatically get put in everyday> or, is someone like atkins, cantu, helms or tatis a good option?
I kinda felt that was “shady” by the Nationals as well….especially since Capps was traded right after the game yesterday
you see the Orioles scratched Tejada from the lineup in “anticipation” of a trade
Using Capps (especially yesterday) when you knew you were trading him was a big F U to the Braves….and now look, Capps is gone and Dunn will be too, just in time for them to play the Phillies
I’ll stick to this as a fix. (and I know it shocks all of you that I don’t have Berkman penciled in)
I say we talk to KC about moving Greinke and Guillen for Medlen, Delgado, Dunn, Hyde and Diaz. Then turn around and talk to the Rays about acquiring BJ Upton for Cabrera, Schafer and Hoover. The outfield would be fixed with added power and defense at the same time we would increase our speed on the roster plus strenghten our pitching for a short playoff series.
Man, I’m disappointed. I was sure I’d get up this morning to news that we’d acquired Albert Pujols, or Ryan Braun and Prince Fielder for KK, McLouth and a couple of corn dogs…
Although Lew makes some great points about their farm not being able to fill their immediate holes. They’ve already committed 143MM for next season (Joe Blanton makes 10 MM by himself!) and that’s before a few options on relievers. It’s a good thing they kept Brown because they wouldn’t be able to afford Werth regardless.
Looking at all the trade talk going on and Atlanta’s name is absent. Every club in the playoff picture is looking to strengthen their team, not to say that we are but it just looks like we aren’t being too aggressive.
Like I said Last Night, The Braves will win 2 of 3 at The Great American Smallpark, ‘Bank On It” They always hit good there this time of the year
But since the All Star Break when the braves had a decent lead the Offense has gone back to That DAMN Bobby Ball Approach against opposing pitchers…Bobby Needs To shake things up again like he was so good at doing from May-The Last roadtrip before the All-Star Break…
They are NOT in the same shape as the Red Sox. They do NOT have that kind of $$$$$ and they do not have that kind of Farm System.
No one is the Red Sox. No one is Theo. That guy is like myself or Steve from OH holding the latest edition of Baseball America and not giving up a fringe prospect for an average major league corner bat(just kidding, Steve). But the Phils do have more funds than most major league franchises and even with the recent trades of Oswalt, Halladay and Cliff Lee, they still have one of the better farm systems in baseball. You don’t have to believe me if you don’t want too. Just saying that they have a lot of A-ball talent. They’re far away from the majors, but smart GM’s would still target those types of players in deals.
DAP…Thinking some form of insurance would be nice. Especially someone who hits lefties well because that appears to be the biggest hole in Freeman’s numbers this season.
Please STOP all The Playstation baseball-game/Fantasy-Land Trade Proposals…Unless D.O.B. reports something cooking then it is a waste of time and space…
Although Lew makes some great points about their farm not being able to fill their immediate holes.
Oh, I agree with that. Now that Brown is in the majors, their talent is in A-ball. Most all of it. But the Braves talent was in A-Ball not too long ago, and it was still lauded as one of the best farms in the majors.
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DAP
July 30th, 2010
10:22 am
miabchbravesfan There is no dependable hitting substance, which has placed a domino effect of pressure on the starters and bullpen.
you dont really think this. cant be serious.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
10:23 am
Steve: I agree. The Braves never eat money. The only wacky contract trade they ever made was for Hampton, and the Braves were truly snakebit there. Unless Wren gets truly creative in the off-season, the troika of Lowe, KK, and Mclouth will be with us for the life of the contract.
Crime Dog
July 30th, 2010
10:23 am
SURE IS QUIET ON THE TRADE FRONT THIS MORNING.
So why are you yelling?
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
10:23 am
McFann, DAP: I REALLY hope I am dead wrong.
Home of the Braves
July 30th, 2010
10:24 am
SURE IS QUIET ON THE TRADE FRONT THIS MORNING
…the calm before the storm?
Efrim
July 30th, 2010
10:24 am
KK and DLowe might squeeze him on the third front, but I doubt it.
I think it’s almost a certainty that Kawakami is traded and the Braves pick up part of the tab. Or they acquire a bad contract too, and it’s just a swap of those.
NORRIS
July 30th, 2010
10:24 am
the braves are in a tail spin. We have been playing over our heads for months now.
The only way this team picks up the pace is to get some excitement back.
That comes by making a move.
the phillies are doing what it takes to win and playing for now!
the braves always say they are playing for next year.
rrosson3
July 30th, 2010
10:24 am
DOB
what do you think about this?
Move Medlen back to the bullpen and put Chavez in AAA.
Bring up Minor for the fifth starter.
Seems to me like it solves the reliever situation and would allow Frank Wren to look at getting that desperately need bat. If there is one thing that can be filled internally its pitching
NEW CARS
July 30th, 2010
10:24 am
Before I spent money on a Guillen or Berkman that would cost and hurt the defense, I would go get Jim Edmonds and put him in CF for 2 months…He’s been there, his numbers have been good, my question would be his health…
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 30th, 2010
10:25 am
MiaBchBravesFan I REALLY hope I am dead wrong.
I hope you are, too.
Efrim
July 30th, 2010
10:26 am
How did this happen??!?!!? How did we go from 7.5 games up to 2.5 in a matter of a week!?!?!?!?!?!
Over the last 8 days, the Phillies have gone 8-0. The Braves, in that same time period, have gone 3-5. There. Just like that, 5 games. Those damn Phils are, dare I say, a gritty, gutty bunch.
Arkansas Transplant
July 30th, 2010
10:28 am
Tell you what, here’s a couple of moves that won’t cost us too much for the return. Let’s talk to KC about moving Greinke and Guillen for Medlen, Delgado, Dunn and Diaz. Then turn around and talk to the Rays about acquiring BJ Upton for Cabrera, Schafer and Hoover. The outfield would be fixed. And we would increase our speed on the roster plus strenghten our pitching for a short playoff series.
Prado
Upton
Heyward
McCann
Chipper
Guillen
Glaus
Gonzo
Hudson
Greinke
JJ
Hanson
Lowe
Gary O
July 30th, 2010
10:28 am
I think the Braves take 2 of 3 from Cincy this weekend.
CB
July 30th, 2010
10:28 am
I wish the Braves would shake the baseball world up with a trade for a player like Justin Upton, he has a contract loaded more heavily to the back and would be part of a long term solution for the outfield. Arizona seems to be in a sell mode,maybe some of our top pitching prospects could get it done.
Travis
July 30th, 2010
10:29 am
The Braves will always covet pitching over position players in the minors. I think that is probably a good thing long term. The position playrs that were nearly can’t miss in this organization are gone because they didn’t improve when they came to the majors. Either management doesn’t know how to evaluate or the coaching at the major league level was lacking. This will not change until it’s addressed. Time for a hitting coach change because this is a young mans game now and veterans are falling by the wayside without chemical help. I can only think of three players that have excelled under this current staff out of probably 20 that came up and are gone. If this is normal for the sample size then bad on me but this is the Braves biggest problem beside budget. Name one guy that came up and started besides McCann, Prado and Hayward that improved under this staff. Actually saw Yunel smile the other night with Toronto…Never happened here becasue the big boys that are all leaving and don’t have his talent didn’t like him. Maybe he told somebody it wasn’t a popularity contest.”We love Nate” but he s-cks! “We hated Yunel” but he can flat deal.
Jaglawyer
July 30th, 2010
10:29 am
Scared
July 30th, 2010
10:20 am
How did this happen??!?!!? How did we go from 7.5 games up to 2.5 in a matter of a week!?!?!?!?!?!
Uhhhh, one team goes 2-5 games and another wins 7 straight . . .
rrosson3
July 30th, 2010
10:29 am
I would think that would really help out the arms in the bullpen. If meds can come in and close out the 7th and the 8th occasionally that would save them big time.
Bobby
July 30th, 2010
10:29 am
Efrim-I agree about KK. That is why I mentioned Frenchy.
Efrim
July 30th, 2010
10:30 am
TennesseePaul, part of it is luck with the Phillies. I mean, these things just keep coming right into their wheelhouse. I don’t think they have the best front office in the sport. Howard’s extension and the Ibanez contract weren’t the smartest moves in the world. But they certainly know that they have pressure to win the World Series every year(similar to the Sox and Yankees), and they sh!t done to succeed. Good time to be a Phillies fan.
dawgieswagbreggeee
July 30th, 2010
10:30 am
efrim – yes gutty, gritty and have done much of it without JLo, Flyin Hawaiin and GUTLEY
shinburger
July 30th, 2010
10:32 am
only guy i would trade medlen for is mcutchen and theres no way pirates part with him
TOMY FOURNIER
July 30th, 2010
10:34 am
WELL…WELL…WITH THIS MOVE FROM THE PHILLY…ATLANTA IS “DONE”…DEAD…OUT…FUERA…SE ACABO…LESS WILD CAR..MENOS..FUERA…SE ACABO..Y YA!!!!!
Travis
July 30th, 2010
10:35 am
A swap of KK for Frenchy is aood move for next year so the Braves can dump the salary. Won’t do much for this year.
semiballcoach
July 30th, 2010
10:36 am
chipper can’t hit 6th, it’s still an rbi slot, with his walks, the only places chip can hit are 2nd or 8th, and we know bobby won’t hit him 8th (just as we know that bobby won’t move him out of 3rd)
and trading for a big bat would be pointless, because bobby ain’t moving chip, mccann, or glaus out of 3,4,5 on a regular basis
Lew
July 30th, 2010
10:36 am
TommyP-Never thought you’d understand the concept of negativity – you’ve lived there too long yourself. Yeah, go ahead and tellus your opinion and guess what? I’ll tell you mine. That’s kind of the way it works.
And no, saying you need a bat isn’t negative – you might see that I’ve mentioned the possibility myself. It’s those that continually gripe about things like “Why hasn’t Wren made a move Yet?” and “The Phillies are bound to leave us in the dust now” and Chiupper Jones is the root of all evil because he can’t hit ..320 anymore” that I consider negative.
And guess what Dude? I’m going to keep commenting on the negativity of those comments ((and you can complain about me doing so). All I care about is that compared to the past four years, I sure as sh!t like where we are this yer a lot better and realize that (ordinarily) the Braves play the Phillies even up the second half. Go ahead and moan, wail and wring your hands about our chances. I’m not intending to do the same.
coach smith
July 30th, 2010
10:37 am
NORRIS
If you have been playing great for 3 of 4 months of season then you ARE NOT “playing above your head”
That is who you ARE, it is actually the 1 bad month that is the exception rather than the norm
Shaun
July 30th, 2010
10:38 am
CB, you are aware how young Justin Upton is, right? The Diamondbacks being in sell mode doesn’t affect whether they would trade a young stud.
Shaun
July 30th, 2010
10:39 am
Baseball Prospecuts, according to a couple of different methods they use, still have the Braves winning 91-92 games. The pressure is still on the Phillies, folks, for all of you who think the Braves have to make a big move.
DAP
July 30th, 2010
10:40 am
efrim, the phillies have certainly been aggressive that last few years, and it has worked out good for them. i wonder though, when it does come time for the ML team to be restocked, what they will do.
dawgieswagbreggeee
July 30th, 2010
10:40 am
All I am saying is our lead off hitter has double the hr of Chipper and also has a lot of rbi, nuttin wrong with a little switcheroo and leaving the light hitting but regular OBP guy as leadoff (Infante)… could even rest TROY a few games with such a move and play Hinske or Omar at 1B occasionally.. troy needs to rest the knee for a good week by the looks of his swing and his run
Danga
July 30th, 2010
10:43 am
Yeah DAP…I think they are being really aggressive in this window they have available. But I’m not sure how many more seasons they’ll be able to keep it going.
CB
July 30th, 2010
10:43 am
Shaun,I do very much understand. It would take a lot to get him and it may be impossible but would love to have the outfield situation cleared up for the future.
Lew
July 30th, 2010
10:44 am
BTW Y’all – All artists tend to collect piles of unfinished artwork, preparatory sketches and all sorts of stuff they’ll never use again.
I cleaned out a few of those piles yesterday and came up with some stuff maybe y’all would like (or not). Nothing all that phenomenal, but some decent sketches and drawings of players we no longer have, I couldn’t get signed, or just used as practice that I’ d be willing to give away (like I said – IF anyone’s interested). Same rules apply – email me lewhartman@comcast.net with your real name and address and there will be (as usual ) no charge – even for postage – just donate a few bucks to your homeless shelter, food bank or womens’ shelter.
It will be a grab bag approach – I’ll stack them up and go throught the emails and match them with whoever is first, etc. You could end up with a Smoltz or Chipper -even an Andruw piece, or could end up with Marcus Giles or Chuckie T. I’ll spare anyone the indignity of a (not very photogenic) Julio Franco or a Horacio Ramirez.
If interested. email away. If not, the land fill makes out on this one.
dawgieswagbreggeee
July 30th, 2010
10:45 am
DAP and Danga – as long as the fillies use the Yankees approach and want to buy and keep filling that stadium they may be able to keep this up for years and years, 35k seats at $40 a pop or so makes a lot of loot over 81 games
Shaun
July 30th, 2010
10:47 am
CB, I would love to have him too, just like I would love to have Pujols. But it’s not even a realistic consideration, with all due respect.
Efrim
July 30th, 2010
10:48 am
the phillies have certainly been aggressive that last few years, and it has worked out good for them. i wonder though, when it does come time for the ML team to be restocked, what they will do.
It’s a good question, and one that’s been brought up a lot. They aren’t the youngest team, that’s for sure. I think all or most of their core besides Hamels and Brown are in their 30’s. They draft well, going for toolsy, athletic players with high upside, and depend on their player development staff to make it work. High risk, high reward. I don’t think they do it as well as the Red Sox, though. Anyway, getting to your point, there will come a time when their players begin to break down. You’ve already seen it a bit with Utley and Rollins.
Lew
July 30th, 2010
10:51 am
dawgs-I’m from Philly. They are a large market, but dwindling as they’ve actually lost population the past couple opf censuses. They are also a very blue collar area (hit hard by unemployment) and their stadium is located closer to Deleware than NE Philly.
As l;ong as they can keep the stadium sold out, they’ll have some $$$, but the minute theyquit winning, they will clear out fast – just the way they are there.
They are at their limits and have damned little left in their farm system. Howard just signed a HUGE contract and the’ll already have to let Werth ride over the winter. They are rapidly approaching their upper salary limit and if Houston had not eaten $11 mil of Oswalt’s salary, they couldn’t have pulled this off. . It is an unsustainable situation.
Efrim
July 30th, 2010
10:51 am
as long as the fillies use the Yankees approach and want to buy and keep filling that stadium they may be able to keep this up for years and years, 35k seats at $40 a pop or so makes a lot of loot over 81 games
Yup, they sell out just about every game and I can’t imagine they will go below 130 million+ in payroll anytime soon.
ALL IS LOST
July 30th, 2010
10:52 am
DAP The Phillie will fix their problems with money. As long as they can out spend the Braves by 20 to 40 mil then, they can reload with money. But looking at the long term the Braves have been competitive 17 of the last 20 years. The organization must be doing something right.
coach smith
July 30th, 2010
10:52 am
anybody know why the Braves made a trade with the D-Backs for a minor league 2nd baseman?
We have a young Prado who is the team MVP, could this aquisition be trade bait for some other team?????????
Arkansas Transplant
July 30th, 2010
10:53 am
Lew, I shot you and email.
CB
July 30th, 2010
10:53 am
Shaun,I understand logically no. We have a lot of prospects that might appeal,but I agree not likely to be what the Braves are likely to try.
GTSteve
July 30th, 2010
10:53 am
So who had San Diego getting to 60 wins first in the NL this year
Shaun
July 30th, 2010
10:54 am
Efrim, I agree. We are already seeing the signs that the Phillies’ window is starting to close. Any team that wins a pennant two straight seasons is going to regress. You can’t have that much talent around the same age and expect it to go on forever.
And, again, for all the Braves fans concerned about the Braves making a move, the Phillies are the one who had to panic and trade young players for Oswalt.
BC
July 30th, 2010
10:54 am
Gary O, I agree. While everyone is panicking, I see the Braves quietly taking two out of 3 from the Reds this weekend. The Phillies are extremely hot right now, but people need to realize that they have played a Rockies team that is in their worst slump since the beginning of last season and a bad, bad Diamondbacks team that is selling basically eveyone but a few guys. I see the Nationals playing the Phillies tough this weekend. If the Braves make a move, great. If not, no big deal.
As long as Glaus starts hitting more than the occasional weak single and Chipper stops hitting some of the weakest fly balls I have ever seen, they will be fine. Prado is the straw that stirs the drink. As he goes, the Braves go. I look for the Braves to come out fired up this weeekend and go on a tear.
Lew
July 30th, 2010
10:54 am
And if Houston would eat $11 mil of Berkman’s salary……..I might agree with Arkansas Transplant about acquiring him.
Efrim
July 30th, 2010
10:55 am
They are at their limits and have damned little left in their farm system.
Lew, that’s just simply not true, man. Including Domonic Brown, they have three of the Top 50 prospects in the sport(Jon Singleton and Jarred Cosart) – plus other prospects like Jiwan James, Trevor May and Sebastian Valle that are highly thought of(not stars, though). The reason they are getting applauded in this Oswalt deal is that they didn’t have their farm system raped and pillaged.
DAP
July 30th, 2010
10:56 am
dawgieswagbreggeee as long as the fillies use the Yankees approach and want to buy and keep filling that stadium they may be able to keep this up for years and years,
i dont know, man. i dont think the phillies could field a $100mil infield, even selling out all their home games.
besides, i havent exactly seen them signing lots of top free agents. they just locked up the ones they already had in their prime (and made some big trades). they arent going to be able to just go buy another utley, and their trade bait is going to run out eventually.
coach smith
July 30th, 2010
10:57 am
Brave made a TRADE!!!!!!
It was with the D-Backs for a minor league 2nd baseman!?!?!
what is the point of this?
Efrim
July 30th, 2010
10:58 am
And I do agree that the Phillies window is starting to close, but it’s mainly because of the age of their major league roster and core stars. It’s not like Howard, Utley, Rollins, Werth, etc. are 26 years old.
All that said, they have a good farm system, and if they want, they can continue to empty it out to fill needs, knowing that they have a limited amount of time to win with the core that they have right now.
Arkansas Transplant
July 30th, 2010
10:58 am
For Berkman all we’d need would be 3 mil included for the buyout after this season.
Gant Touch This AKA Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2010
10:58 am
From last night…
Its Seriously time to get Chipper out of the 3 hole
I simply Can’t Take It Anymore! I love Chipper but its time for the old slug to quit killing us in the 3 spot, put Prado or Gonzo in that spot if you must. Chipper is playing the Roger Dorn Role Hard this year on this team…
Long Time Braves Fan
July 30th, 2010
11:00 am
Lew is the voice of reason here.
Lew
July 30th, 2010
11:01 am
Efrim- I disagree. You can’t draft at the end of the draft continually (look at the Braves all those years) and end up with the top talent – which is what has happened with the Phillies the past couple years. In addition, they also traded a ton to get Halladay, to get Lee to begin with and didn’t get the same return trading Lee to the Mariners.
Who besides Brown is ready NOW? What pitching do they have stocked in the minors? SAlso, keep in mind they just traded a kid pitcher who was third in ROY voting and who was under contract another four or more years for a pitcher they will have for a bit more than a year (I don’t think he’s signed through 2012, but could be wrong) – nonetheless, they’ve lost a year or two there.
They will need to re sign Utley soon, replace Rollins, and find a viable longer term 3B and LF to replace Ibanez. I’m not seeing it coming from their farm and they already have a $!40 + mil salary.
Three of the top 50? They’ll end up trading them , too before all is said and done – just to try to eke out another winning year and keep all those billigerant butts filling their seasts.
Gant Touch This AKA Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2010
11:01 am
Also from last night…
And I dont care how high Chipper’s OBP is…
We are probably dead last in production from the 3 hole
He needs to either hit second or sixth. Do It NOW!
CraZyTRaDeMaN
July 30th, 2010
11:02 am
Ark, Thought of you this morning when Berkman was mentioned on ESPN as a possible wildcard at the deadlne.
Arkansas Transplant
July 30th, 2010
11:03 am
CraZyTRaDeMaN, did they mention where he might end up?
Lew
July 30th, 2010
11:03 am
coach smith – Maybe a longer term deal so they can move Prado to third when CHipper retires and have a 2B prospect in the wings? Doesn’t have to have an immediate impact – not all trades do.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
11:04 am
Ages of key Philly players:
Utley – 31
Howard – 30
Rollins – 31
Victorino – 29
Werth – 31
Brown – 23
Halladay – 33
Oswalt – 32
Hamels – 26
Hardly fossils, folks. With exception to Halladay and Oswalt, their core can be productive for another five years. They’ll always find another starter when their five guys are hitting.
Damn nice core, I hate to admit!
wiki
July 30th, 2010
11:05 am
I saw above where someone said that Oswalt will add about 2 more wins the rest of the year. I was figuring 3…..so look at it this way….we’re tied. Let’s see what happens.
Maybe it’s been mentioned but one thing I noticed looking at the Phillies schedule:
Starting in the middle of August, they play 24 games in 23 days including traveling west for a week. Make no mistake, that will take it’s toll. There’ll be no skipping the #5 guy in the rotation (Blanton or Kendrick???) and they’ll even have to use a #6 once during a doubleheader or pitch everyone on three days rest.
That my friends is a tough stretch, especially during the latter part of a season. If they win this division, they will have earned it.
Efrim
July 30th, 2010
11:06 am
Efrim- I disagree. You can’t draft at the end of the draft continually (look at the Braves all those years) and end up with the top talent – which is what has happened with the Phillies the past couple years
Honestly, go tell the Red Sox that. They pay above slot for players and continue to have one of the best farm systems in baseball because they allocate quite a bit of funds on the Rule 4 draft and the international signing period. As you said, it’s far easier to do this by picking early in the draft, but it’s certainly not impossible to possess a very good farm system while picking in the back third every year as long as you forfeit large bonuses.
CraZyTRaDeMaN
July 30th, 2010
11:06 am
No, only that he was a 1B only at this point in his career.
Shaun
July 30th, 2010
11:06 am
At this point in his career, I don’t think Berkman improves the team enough, considering the players the Braves would likely have to give up and Berkman’s contract or the additional talent they would have to give up for the Astros to take on significant portions of his contract.
ALL IS LOST
July 30th, 2010
11:07 am
Coach Smith By the way sorry to hear about the Alzheimer rumors. The second baseman for the D’back is a .220 hitting kid they sent to the DR to play. I do not know why they made the trade. Maybe the D’backs gave the Braves something for Kelly.
JoeFan
July 30th, 2010
11:09 am
The Braves will make no move escept to possibly DH Glaus and promote Freeman. To win the the division would be nice but the Braves have more than enough to win the wildcard. No need to mortage the future when the Phillies are aging and their farm system is depleted. Just remmeber that if one of their pitchers slips, they don’t have the depth to replace him.
Lew
July 30th, 2010
11:09 am
MiamiBch-However, Rollins has bad legs and had an OBP of (shades of Francoeur) .291 last year. Werth is gone in the offseason. Utley has now had several serious injuries and will require another HUGE contract in a while. That’s a good bit of their core right there. They won’t have those five guys together for long.
Arkansas Transplant
July 30th, 2010
11:09 am
Shaun, not real sure it would take much to get that trade done. Houston could always resign him after this year if his option wasn’t picked and probably at a much reduced rate. To me, it would make for sense to trade him now and get what you can and then just resign him in the offseason. Everyone knows he loves the Houston area.
Efrim
July 30th, 2010
11:10 am
Hardly fossils, folks.
Right, but your pretty much exiting your prime at around 32, so we would expect their numbers to decline. Also, as you’ve seen with Rollins and Utley, they aren’t guarantees to play 150+ games every year. Not saying they are finished by 2011. But saying they have 5 more strong years left is a little much, in my opinion.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
11:10 am
Like I said yesterday:
Lance Berkman = “Fat” Elvis, another slowpoke, who is hitting .245.
Really? Is this a joke???
Arkansas Transplant
July 30th, 2010
11:11 am
JoeFan, the teams vying for the wildcard are better than the Phillies. If we don’t have enough to win the division, I doubt we have enough to win the wildcard.
Lew
July 30th, 2010
11:12 am
Efrim-I’m not going to try to debate the minors with you – you know more than I do. However, when talking Philly, I DO know what I’m talking about – was born and raised there and still have lots of contacts – including in their front office. They won’t be able to do it with their farm system. It will help them in some instances, but they can’t replace what they’ll need to replace in coming times(or with the same quality) from the farm. They just won’t.
FlintRiverFunk
July 30th, 2010
11:12 am
If the Braves are dead now, why weren’t they dead back when they lost 9 in a row? Well, because there was a lot of baseball left to play after that 9 games losing streak. Just like there is a lot of baseball left to play now. Come on people, the Braves are still in a great position to make the playoffs no matter how many Negative Nellies there are on this blog.
Arkansas Transplant
July 30th, 2010
11:12 am
Efrim
July 30th, 2010
11:10 am
I agree with that analogy.
dawgieswagbreggeee
July 30th, 2010
11:13 am
GTSteve
July 30th, 2010
10:53 am
“So who had San Diego getting to 60 wins AT ALL in the NL this year”
FYP
Danga
July 30th, 2010
11:13 am
Like I said yesterday:
His stats look better than your man crush D. Lee.
Lew
July 30th, 2010
11:14 am
If the Phillies were not as concerned about their farm and salary structure as I claim, they would NEVER have traded Lee to start the year. They needed the players they got to restock and really are at the end of their available salary. Just heard a report that the deal couldn’t go through until they brought in Big Guns over Ruben Jr.’s head to do a good bit of approving. They are NOT in the same shape as the Red Sox. They do NOT have that kind of $$$$$ and they do not have that kind of Farm System.
JasonInFL
July 30th, 2010
11:15 am
Would love to read a headline…
“Frank Wren has a blockbuster in the works…”
FlintRiverFunk
July 30th, 2010
11:15 am
I feel sorry for DOB. Coming back from vacation to this bunch of loons….although, he is probably pretty use to the lunacy here by now anyway.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
11:16 am
Chipper hit .364 at 35. Utley got his thumb caught under a bag. Rollins has a nagging calf pull/tear after years of good health, not a knee or shoulder. OK, four instead of five – still a run that many other teams would kill for.
rammerjammer
July 30th, 2010
11:17 am
Anyone seen the 5′7″ lhp Collins in AA Miss we got as part of the Yunel deal? Nice stats so far…6g, 8ip, 4h, 1r, 3bb, 14K. Just 20 yrs old. Another Wags? Or another Chuck n Duck?
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
11:19 am
“So who had San Diego getting to 60 wins AT ALL in the NL this year”
NOBODY! Who could’ve predicted their young pitching would do as well as they have. Lead the NL in ERA?
Not even the most die-hard Pods fan would’ve called it.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2010
11:19 am
Efrim, great points about the Philly system.
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
July 30th, 2010
11:21 am
We need a bat or we are doomed!!!! Chris Young from AZ needs to be in an ATL uniform by Sundays afternoon matinee….. This is getting serious. Phils are playing to win NOW obviously. Happ will be a lefty star, already is…. Anyway WE NEED A BAT WREN!!!!!!!!!!
(**Sidenote: How much BS is it that Matt Capps blows ATL away for 2 nights and then gets traded 9 minutes later???)
Danga
July 30th, 2010
11:25 am
Chipper is the exception and not the rule. Say what you will about Rollins and his injury problems, but he has been in steady decline the last 2 seasons. Victorino is having a bad year and maybe that is all it is. Werth is gonzo after this year. We are not necessarily talking about them dropping off the face of the earth either, but rather a decline as they age. What if Utley goes from being one of the top 5 players in baseball to a top 20 player? These things matter. They have had a nice run, but my guess is we are watching the sunset rather than the high noon.
DAP
July 30th, 2010
11:25 am
just happened to see the list of free agent 1stbaseman for this coming offseason. its a long list. can we expect wren to sign one of the righties to spell freeman a bit? freeman is making people notice him in AAA, so he will probbaly be ready for the ML club, but does he automatically get put in everyday> or, is someone like atkins, cantu, helms or tatis a good option?
NO MORE BOBBY
July 30th, 2010
11:26 am
Who’s ready for some second place action?
coach smith
July 30th, 2010
11:27 am
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
I kinda felt that was “shady” by the Nationals as well….especially since Capps was traded right after the game yesterday
you see the Orioles scratched Tejada from the lineup in “anticipation” of a trade
Using Capps (especially yesterday) when you knew you were trading him was a big F U to the Braves….and now look, Capps is gone and Dunn will be too, just in time for them to play the Phillies
Arkansas Transplant
July 30th, 2010
11:28 am
I’ll stick to this as a fix. (and I know it shocks all of you that I don’t have Berkman penciled in)
I say we talk to KC about moving Greinke and Guillen for Medlen, Delgado, Dunn, Hyde and Diaz. Then turn around and talk to the Rays about acquiring BJ Upton for Cabrera, Schafer and Hoover. The outfield would be fixed with added power and defense at the same time we would increase our speed on the roster plus strenghten our pitching for a short playoff series.
Prado
Upton
Heyward
McCann
Chipper
Guillen
Glaus
Gonzo
Hudson
Greinke
JJ
Hanson
Lowe
I don’t really see any wholes in that rotation or lineup. Plus, we would have done all of this without sacrificing Minor, Teheran or Viscano.
wiki
July 30th, 2010
11:28 am
(**Sidenote: How much BS is it that Matt Capps blows ATL away for 2 nights and then gets traded 9 minutes later???)
Yeah….now they get the Phillies with Capps in a Twins uni.
GTSteve
July 30th, 2010
11:28 am
Ok so here is where we stand on the last day of July
61 games left
58 wins 43 loses….15 Games over .500
2 1/2 games up on the defending NL champs in the division
Best Home Record in all of baseball, where they play 34 of the 61 remaining games
Series records for this year
20Win 9Loss 3Ties
If we would have been told this on the first of April, we would all have taken it, so..no the sky is not falling
auburnbrave
July 30th, 2010
11:28 am
Man, I’m disappointed. I was sure I’d get up this morning to news that we’d acquired Albert Pujols, or Ryan Braun and Prince Fielder for KK, McLouth and a couple of corn dogs…
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2010
11:29 am
Although Lew makes some great points about their farm not being able to fill their immediate holes. They’ve already committed 143MM for next season (Joe Blanton makes 10 MM by himself!) and that’s before a few options on relievers. It’s a good thing they kept Brown because they wouldn’t be able to afford Werth regardless.
Arkansas Transplant
July 30th, 2010
11:30 am
Looking at all the trade talk going on and Atlanta’s name is absent. Every club in the playoff picture is looking to strengthen their team, not to say that we are but it just looks like we aren’t being too aggressive.
coach smith
July 30th, 2010
11:30 am
I would like to see ONE of these THREE trades (as far as players coming to the Braves)
From D-Backs—–Chris Young and Adam LaRoche
From Dodgers—–Matt Kemp
From Toronto—–Bautista AND Downs or Gregg
Gant Touch This AKA Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2010
11:30 am
Like I said Last Night, The Braves will win 2 of 3 at The Great American Smallpark, ‘Bank On It” They always hit good there this time of the year
But since the All Star Break when the braves had a decent lead the Offense has gone back to That DAMN Bobby Ball Approach against opposing pitchers…Bobby Needs To shake things up again like he was so good at doing from May-The Last roadtrip before the All-Star Break…
Efrim
July 30th, 2010
11:30 am
They are NOT in the same shape as the Red Sox. They do NOT have that kind of $$$$$ and they do not have that kind of Farm System.
No one is the Red Sox. No one is Theo. That guy is like myself or Steve from OH holding the latest edition of Baseball America and not giving up a fringe prospect for an average major league corner bat(just kidding, Steve). But the Phils do have more funds than most major league franchises and even with the recent trades of Oswalt, Halladay and Cliff Lee, they still have one of the better farm systems in baseball. You don’t have to believe me if you don’t want too. Just saying that they have a lot of A-ball talent. They’re far away from the majors, but smart GM’s would still target those types of players in deals.
Danga
July 30th, 2010
11:31 am
DAP…Thinking some form of insurance would be nice. Especially someone who hits lefties well because that appears to be the biggest hole in Freeman’s numbers this season.
curley, moe & larry
July 30th, 2010
11:31 am
There are 2 months to go…. , remember 2 months ago,Braves were just finshing a 9 game losing streak. Any thing can happen.
Gant Touch This AKA Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2010
11:32 am
Please STOP all The Playstation baseball-game/Fantasy-Land Trade Proposals…Unless D.O.B. reports something cooking then it is a waste of time and space…
Efrim
July 30th, 2010
11:32 am
Although Lew makes some great points about their farm not being able to fill their immediate holes.
Oh, I agree with that. Now that Brown is in the majors, their talent is in A-ball. Most all of it. But the Braves talent was in A-Ball not too long ago, and it was still lauded as one of the best farms in the majors.