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uga-brave
July 30th, 2010
3:21 am
tom, i am with you. the hunt somtimes is better then the kill.
the chase over 162 is what makes baseball great.
pretty fun talking about this now, right? gotta go. till tmmrw. enjoy as always, tom.
Tommeee O'Hawkeee
July 30th, 2010
3:21 am
cueto vs. medlen today. big game in my book. cueto is 10-2. would go a long way if we could win this one.
uga, as I said to TnBrian before, the Sat & Sun pitching match-ups look as though they favor the Braves. This Cueto guy looks almost unhittable, right now.
You’re right, if Medlen can pitch a great game, and the Braves can squeeze out a run or two, this would be a great win.
Tommeee O'Hawkeee
July 30th, 2010
3:23 am
Good night, uga-brave. Hope to see you tomorrow night.
Tommeee O'Hawkeee
July 30th, 2010
3:30 am
Before I retire for the night, I have one more piece of business (and before I get accused of being a “BAS” want-a-be).
cabravesfan and Venice Jim
I figure one of you will see this as you scroll through, in the morning.
Just because Jim didn’t say goodnight and stayed around for a few more minutes then you did, cab, doesn’t fool me. I noticed y’all’s early, and fairly equal time departure.
You guys were gonna do, what did Jim tell me the term for it is on the west coast, oh yeah, the totalcoincidence.
You can’t pull the wool over this dude’s eyes.
Tommeee O'Hawkeee
July 30th, 2010
3:33 am
If I could go back and correct my post, I’d change that to “wannabe”. Damn the beer!
Mitchell
July 30th, 2010
3:48 am
uga-brave
July 30th, 2010
2:35 am
a bomb, the balance of the season is on glaus. if he hits for power in the 4 or 5 hole we have a chance.
if not, mitchell.
Ha, that’s funny.
Wait, I don’t get it.
bravesfan1984
July 30th, 2010
5:18 am
i wonder if the braves would have any interest in alex gordon? maybe a change of scenery would do him good…he’s in the OF now, but could take over at 3B once chipper leaves
obee
July 30th, 2010
5:49 am
DOB:
So Heyward seems to be hitting well, but is management concerned about the lack of power? Hasn’t hit a homer since his return, has he? Is it indicative of continuing wrist problems?
JC form UT
July 30th, 2010
6:23 am
If the Braves trade for Guillen, instead of money coming back maybe we could Alex Gordon back as well
dawgieswagbreggeee
July 30th, 2010
6:28 am
Steaky for streaky, I like it, now if only I could get a great steak
Lets hope Nate stays down til Sep and our AAA hitting coach straightens him out
dawgieswagbreggeee
July 30th, 2010
6:31 am
bravesfan – JHey is clearly still injured and now hits a mega amount of ground balls, but it shows how truly talented the kid is with baseball nouse, despite “struggling” power wise his average and OPS since returning has been excellent..
also looks time to reunite “Salt and Pepper” the way the kid at Gwinett is hitting
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2010
6:44 am
Obee, Heyward’s injury was jammed thumb, which he’s admitted will probably bother him rest of season to some degree. Nothing he and Braves can do about that. Two weeks of rest isn’t going to cure that, only an offseason will. But in meantime, he’s been productive since he returned. The thumb’s better than it was before his DL stint, and he’s hit several balls hard enough to go out if he’d just gotten under them a bit more, line drives that either went for hits or were caught. So no, management’s not concerned about him, not at all.
dawgieswagbreggeee
July 30th, 2010
6:46 am
JHeys last 10 game stats
AB R H HR RBI BB K SB AVG
39 10 16 0 3 8 8 3 .410
hAL
July 30th, 2010
6:49 am
hanson vs volquez i predict a 14-13 final scvore with the reds missing a convert we win despite bp hanson lo lif we dont score in that cookie cutter park its time to get more offence fast
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2010
6:50 am
Got a 7:25 a.m. flight to Cincy, and it’s on time. Short flight, so I should be in my hotel by about 10 a.m. or soon after. I think it’s 50-50 the Braves make a trade by Saturday afternoon’s deadline. Hate being noncommital, but I just don’t get a strong feeling either way, and there seem to be only a few guys left who are both reasonably affordable and could clearly help the Braves.
6-4-3
July 30th, 2010
7:01 am
Do we have any interest in Garrett Jones? The ex-Brave is having a pretty good year.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2010
7:08 am
Guillen, I think, the Braves get fairly cheaply. There is, as I understand it, an Escobar factor here, though. In terms of personality and temperment.
McJasoneeeeeenInFL
July 30th, 2010
7:09 am
I think FW believes our prospects are too high end for the types of players available. I mean, if Kemp were available or something; great. But, he isn’t. So, you are going to trade top 35 pitching prospects for what’s out there.
McJasoneeeeeenInFL
July 30th, 2010
7:09 am
*are not going to
keylargo
July 30th, 2010
7:36 am
Garrett Jones is having a solid year for the Pirates, but has never been in the Braves organization. He came up in the Twins organization.
keylargo
July 30th, 2010
7:40 am
6 – 4 – 3
Sorry, I found that Garrett Jones was a Brave. You are right.
June 2, 1999: Drafted by the Atlanta Braves in the 14th round of the 1999 amateur draft. Player signed June 18, 1999.
May 21, 2002: Released by the Atlanta Braves.
Billy walsh
July 30th, 2010
7:55 am
If people are bashing wren what do you guys think the astro blogs are doing to mclane? He did acquire a good pitcher in haap who has been hurt
all year but eating 11 million of oswalts contract?
dawgieswagbreggeee
July 30th, 2010
8:00 am
Billy – yes I cannot work it out either, it looks like a straight salary dump for ownership for 2011 but surely they could have gotten a better deal as far as $$$ goes
Happ impresses me but after an injury it is a crazy deal
Tomas
July 30th, 2010
8:12 am
Wren has really changed since the Jake Peavy, AJ Burnett, Derek Lowe, etc offseason. He use to share now he doesn’t. So far I think it’s a good idea by his part, but as a fan I miss knowing what the Braves are planning.
Tomas
July 30th, 2010
8:15 am
If he doesn’t make a deal, the Braves are screwed.
Trade Kris Medlen, and Mike Dunn for Jose Bautista.
ben
July 30th, 2010
8:30 am
The Braves were doing great before the All-Star break…they trade Escobar…and now the team struggles. Coincidence? Not likely. You move one player out, put somebody else in…somehow, it doesn’t work as well anymore.
Efrim
July 30th, 2010
8:30 am
Trade Kris Medlen, and Mike Dunn for Jose Bautista.
Would you really trade Medlen for Bautista? I certainly wouldn’t.
dawgieswagbreggeee
July 30th, 2010
8:32 am
Dunn and Marek for Bautista, nuttin more
CraZyTRaDeMaN
July 30th, 2010
8:42 am
I wouldn’t give up too much for Bautista but, right now he may be the best player available on the market. It would likely cost more than what he’s worth to get him. I would give up players like Beachy, Dunn, Marek, or Diory Hernandez for a guy like Bautista but not Medlen.
Danga
July 30th, 2010
8:52 am
Something strange is happening in Toronto and I don’t trust it. Bautista scares the mess out of me. His numbers look great right now, but he has never done anything close to this before. I think the only players out of Toronto who I would really like to see as Braves are Romero and Downs, and neither one of the those guys play CF.
TommyP
July 30th, 2010
8:53 am
A few thoughts…
This is one of the better managing jobs Cox has done overall. I know a lot of you nitpick every single move the guy makes in games but what he’s done with this motley crew of hitters is pretty amazing. His CF is in the minors, Cabrera is a 4th OF, Diaz/Hinske are 4th OF/utility types and his infield corner bats can not be depended on consistently.
People can argue MLB vs. NFL vs. NBA in terms of which is better but there’s no doubt MLB has the better:
A) All Star Game – It’s the only one I even watch, honestly.
B) Trading deadline – The deadlines in the NBA/NFL are jokes. The MLB trade deadline generates serious interest for at least 3 weeks.
C) Hot Stove – What offseason is better?
Nats really made a good deal in the Capps swap. That catcher is supposed to be a solid prospect and then they got a throw-in talent at a younger level. I haven’t read anywhere of someone thinking Capps would bring anything back.
And the Oswalt deal…… I’m amazed at how some GMs keep finding work. Ed Wade pitches in $12 mil to deal Oswalt? Wow…. So the Phils got Oswalt for around $6 mil for this year and next year? That’s amazing to me. Wade refused to deal his trade chips for so long and now he’s paying for it. Oswalt would’ve brought a ton in the offseason. Berkman would’ve brought a ton last year. And they have to live with Carlos Lee’s albatross of a contract for several more years.
Down to today and tomorrow for our Braves. Deadline is 4PM, right?
Danga
July 30th, 2010
8:59 am
Well said TommyP. Agree with all of that.
Lew
July 30th, 2010
9:02 am
Have any of the Negativity Patrol who think Wren is sitting on his hands (I’m being somewhat generous with the terminology) and doing nothing? Do you seriously believe he should run out in public screaming “We’re desperate for a bat, let me bend over so you can take full advantage of me”?
Give the Dude a chance here. He’ll pull off a deal – probably one none of us saw coming – and we’ll be fine.
We’re still in first by more than that half game we were a couple weeks ago and though the Phillies have improved their pitching staff, what exactly, is their net gain? They traded Happ for Oswalt – yes, an improvement, but how much of one? Not as if it was Moyer a no talent douche he was replacing – Happ is a pretty good pitcher in his own right. Yes, there IS a net gain, but not nearly as much as y’all are crying about.
Patience. Now is not the time to act like y’all are 13 and cant sleep if your team loses. Wren gets paid to deal with situations like this and his track record is pretty damned good.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
9:03 am
Unless brass really feels that Minor is ready for prime time today, I would not trade Medlen. What I would trade for is one proven relief arm if we cannot get a bat. Two mediocre long arms – KK and Chavez – are a waste of bullpen space. One has to go to Gwinnett ti make room for an effective arm that will be needed in August. The recent overuse of Venters speaks to tired arms. Saito is old, Moylan has been overused, ditto Venters, O’Flaherty is still on the mend, and Dunn is an untrusted rookie. If not, brass needs to bring an effective Resop up in order to help out. Hudson, JJ, and Hanson are pitching seven as of late, which helps the bullpen. Medlen needs to find his pre-All Star groove and Lowe, even though his stint yesterday was shortened by rain, has not been hitting seven at all as of late; and that is really hurting our bullpen.
Too mnay holes in the lineup means the pitching staff needs to butch up Padres-style. Like Lowe allowing 2 runs after the Braves tied the game – that cannot happen! The starters and bullpen need to treat each start like a 3-2 game, because the Braves are in a four run rut as of late. That may be the trend for the rest of the season, regardless of who hits in the cleanup hole if the solution is maintained within.
DONozzLEUche
July 30th, 2010
9:19 am
Anyone heard if Oswalt accepted the trade yet?
ben
July 30th, 2010
9:19 am
However, I can sense the Braves season slipping away. I just never felt as strongly about a trade as this one (Escobar-Gonzalez). If Chipper Jones hits 40 HR and has 120 RBI, then if he wants Escobar out, then fine. But Chipper is a shell of his former self. In fact, for the money he gets ($14 million in 2010; .251 BA, 7 HR, 41 RBI), we could have got 2-3 good players. And the Braves didn’t want to pay Adam LaRoche $6 million/year. Are you freakin kidding me?
And Bobby Cox will be gone after this year (so no reason to jeopardize our future for his sake).
I also wonder about the anonymous quotes about Escobar: “Bobby hates Escobar” and “Escobar doesn’t have a lot of friends in the clubhouse.”
It makes me think these quotes come from 1-2 players (probably Chipper Jones). I’m happy for Escobar; from Sportscenter highlights, I see it is all smiles and he is on an offensive tear in Toronto.
And it’s not because I don’t like Gonzalez (he’s had a fine career; seems to be a good teammate), it’s just I’ve see what Escobar can do. Trading him away reeked of panic from the Braves management.
Bottom line: Escobar is a Chevy Corvette (not 100% reliable, but still a high performance vehicle); and Gonzalez is a Cadillac Cimaaron (looks like a Cadillac, but just really a Chevy Cavalier with leather seats).
NEW CARS
July 30th, 2010
9:19 am
If you’re really froggy, how about bad contract for bad contract…Derek Lowe for Vernon Wells. Then bring Minor up if we feel he’s ready…Problem solved, just a little extra committment on our side, maybe Blue Jays kick in a little money, or take Nate or KK as well
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
9:20 am
Oswalt accepted yesterday.
Supes
July 30th, 2010
9:20 am
MiaBchBravesFan ,
Resop should be back soon…Chavez will be sent down (thank God) after that.
We really miss EOF right now in the pen…Venters has been used to the max…
Lew,
I agree that Wren will do something soon…probably one that nobody saw coming.
Bobby
July 30th, 2010
9:21 am
I realize Frenchy is necessarily “the” answer, but what about a KK for Frenchy swap? Would you do that if you were the Braves? The Mets?
Bobby
July 30th, 2010
9:21 am
That should have read NOT “the” answer.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
9:25 am
Toronto would really have to kick in money – money they do not have. The trade sounds like a larger version of the Carlos Silva for Milton Bradley trade the Cubs and Mariners made last winter. I think Wells would be a good addition, but the Blue jays would need to kick in a LOT more money than they can afford. It’s a weird place; if the Blue Jays have to give up too much in $$$’s, they might as well keep him. The Yankees can afford him, but they don’t want him. That Well’s contract is like plutonium – nobody wants to touch it.
GTSteve
July 30th, 2010
9:26 am
You don’t trade Kris Medlen for anybody
DoNozzleUche
July 30th, 2010
9:27 am
Oh my…… It’s over now…… Guess I can start focusing my attention to football.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
9:29 am
The Mets would not do it because the Braves would have to give up something extra to defray the Mets’ having to pay KK $7.5 mil next year. Frenchy is still arbitration eligible, which means he would come way cheaper to the Braves. Frankly, a bad trade if it was ever pondered by the Braves.
We already have an outfield full of non-hitting basket cases – with full apologies to Jason Heyward.
Danga
July 30th, 2010
9:30 am
just a little extra committment
lol. Did you call the difference between when before Jared starting eating subway and afterwards just a little weight loss? Froggy that would certainly be. Vernon has had a nice enough year this year to make that contract seem a little less bad. However, after Lowe’s contract is over and done with Wells will still be owed $42 million and we aren’t even talking about how much more he makes a year. Lowe’s contract is bad, Vernon’s is a franchise killer. That is way too much money for a 31 year old OF who last had a really good season in 2006.
TommyP
July 30th, 2010
9:30 am
Lew: I don’t see how stating you want the Braves to make a move for a bat being negative. Or that you think the Phils are about to pass the Braves as being negative.
It’s called people’s opinions. Just because they differ from your Disney-Braves opinions doesn’t mean they’re negative.
And Oswalt over Happ is a big upgrade.
CraZyTRaDeMaN
July 30th, 2010
9:33 am
You don’t trade Kris Medlen for anybody
Anybody? Since Med’s is a future HOF and all maybe your right!
coach smith
July 30th, 2010
9:35 am
Did anybody see that the Braves made a Trade with the D-Backs for a minor league 2nd Baseman?
what is that about?
BravesDA
July 30th, 2010
9:35 am
Someone explain how the Rangers, who declared bankruptcy, keep taking on additional salaries…
Bobby
July 30th, 2010
9:35 am
MiaBchBravesFan: Frenchy is batting over .300 versus lefties (Braves’ weakness) this year. Not a one-time event, his ‘07-’09 versus lefties avg was .291
GTSteve
July 30th, 2010
9:36 am
Yes crazy anybody
Danga
July 30th, 2010
9:36 am
And Oswalt over Happ is a big upgrade.
I think Oswalt is obviously a much better pitcher than Happ. But how much better over half a season? I think this trade will really pay off for their pitching staff next year, but only a small improvement this year.
Bobby
July 30th, 2010
9:36 am
BravesDA: MLB has loaned them $30million according to Richard Justice of Houston Chronicle.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 30th, 2010
9:37 am
Tom O’Hawke IMO, without any moves being made, he’s the best one in the clean up spot (sorry, McFann).
Eh…I guess I would have to agree. Back when Glaus was going great, he would have been perfect for cleanup. He had 40+ RBI when BMac had about 18…But since the ASB, BMac’s really been catching up to him in the RBI category.
Wish they could get another guy to bat cleanup, though…
njbraves
July 30th, 2010
9:38 am
Let’s just stand pat today, what do ya say Braves fans.
Danga
July 30th, 2010
9:38 am
Frenchy is batting over .300 versus lefties
It seems that is where his future value lies. I wonder how long before he realizes it. At any rate, we already have Diaz to terrorize lefties.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
9:39 am
ben: Sometimes you find happiness elsewhere. We’ve all been there in our work lives. It just does not work in one place because you almost don’t want it to work. If you think that Escobrat would’ve all of a sudden seen the light in Atlanta, you are a better optimist than I am. He really hated the Atlanta situation. If being a Brave in the past 20 years meant being in a toxic environment for players because of Cox and his coaches, I would see your point. But, everyone in the MLB wants to play for him, a concept that is rarely seen from jaded MLB players (I mean really, they gush and fawn over the prospect of plaing for Cox!) – except for one player.
Yunel Escobar. So, I will never suffer from seller’s remorse over him, because like Bonnie Raitt said:
“I can’t make you love me. . . if you don’t. . .”
Danga
July 30th, 2010
9:40 am
lol…Love that song miabch.
BravesDA
July 30th, 2010
9:40 am
maybe MLB will loan the Braves $30 mil to pay off Chipper, KK, et. al.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
9:40 am
Bobby, we have Frenchy-plus, who can batter lefties better than Frenchy.
His name is Matt Diaz.
. Don
July 30th, 2010
9:40 am
No need to be excited about the Oswalt trade.
Bobby Cox was and is probably going to blow it regardless of whether or not the Phils have Oswalt.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
9:42 am
Thanks, Danga, so do I – especially because of the power of that one line.
Danga
July 30th, 2010
9:43 am
Enter your comments here
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
9:46 am
Someone mentioned it yesterday, and it bears some thought – regardless of recent trade history.
Are our prospects REALLY that good that Wren would balk at a trade?
Arkansas Transplant
July 30th, 2010
9:46 am
Is everyone still ready to stand pat? I can tell you this.. if we don’t do something to improve this club and I dont mean by bringing in an average player I’m talking a difference-maker type, then we aren’t going to make the playoffs. It should be pretty obvious by now we have some major deficiencies.
GTSteve
July 30th, 2010
9:48 am
@BravesDA , my thought exactly
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2010
9:48 am
Judd, check the byline on the blogs you’re referring to. I didn’t write them. Carroll covered the past two series. I’m back on the case here in Cincy.
Reality Check
July 30th, 2010
9:51 am
So, here we are on July 30 2.5 games up. On July 22, were were 7 games up. The Marlins are now at .500 and 7.5 games back. Some say it’s no big deal. Maybe it isn’t. Maybe we’ll go on another roll and create some more distance. All I know is that suddenly there are 4 teams within the same range that we lead the division by a week ago. Panic time? No, it doesn’t help anything. But I do think it’s time to quit messing around. Our season depends on it.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
9:53 am
Ark Trans: I agree. But like the Teixeira trade, I don’t think even 1 player will make a difference with this team. Overnight, the Good Ship Braves has so many holes, they’ll be bailing water the rest of the season. Maybe this time, the present Braves’ GM will learn from the mistake of the old GM:
Why give up the farm if the solution makes you bankrupt?
ALinRIC
July 30th, 2010
9:54 am
those who want a two-month rental of Francouer at a price of over $ 2mil. in lieu of a far-better hitting Matt Diaz must’ve overpaid for a signed #7 jersey in 2006.
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2010
9:55 am
Please somehow get rid of Lowe and bring up anyone from the minors, eat his salary if needed. — Braves Choke
Can you at least be realistic? Because if you’re not, then anything you say after a line like this becomes, well, irrelevant.
Or maybe I shouldn’t assume you realize that Lowe is only in the second year of a four-year, $60 mill contract? Because if you know that, you don’t honestly believe the Braves would or should “just eat” more than $35 million that he’s owed, right? I dare say no team, not even the Yankees would eat $35 million in salary in a situation like this. Certainly the Braves would not even entertain the thought.
Danga
July 30th, 2010
9:55 am
I think it depends a lot on the situation MiaBch. Prospects offer long term financial stability. They are how teams under our payroll constraints remain competitive. That being said, if you have some organizational depth and have the opportunity to really improve your team, then you pull the trigger. You just need a system in place where you determine if receiving x player for x amount of years is worth organizational control of x prospect. Totally depends on the situation.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
9:57 am
As much as I fume over the Lowe contact, and his plight this season, I am resigned to the fact that he will be here through 2012.
Deal with it.
Danga
July 30th, 2010
10:00 am
MiaBch…You have come full circle in a week’s time. Last week the Braves really needed a clean up hitter and now not even a Tex type player will help. Players and teams go through ups and downs through the season. The performance of a player over the last 3 games does not mean they’ll continue to play that way for the rest of the season. Geez man. That lineup you are bashing built a lead that has taken an 8 game winning streak to cut to 2.5. Now, I would like to us make a move, but I don’t believe for a second that his team won’t be competitive for the rest of the season. A week’s worth of baseball does not a season make.
dawgieswagbreggeee
July 30th, 2010
10:01 am
lol at everyone saying we WILL NOT make the playoffs… I will have a $1k with anyone who says we will not…………. remember we are +2.5 on the fillies and have an easier August at home and are +4 on the WC
Efrim
July 30th, 2010
10:01 am
They traded Happ for Oswalt – yes, an improvement, but how much of one?
Big, in my opinion. Especially considering this may come down to the wire, and the net gain of 2 or 3 wins might be the determining factor.
It’s really that the Phils didn’t have to give up much to get the guy. I mean, they acquired Roy Halladay and Roy Oswalt over the last year and never had to give up Dom Brown. Not that they should of, but it’s a good deal for them. They’ll still be able to use their other elite prospects like Jon Singleton and/or Jarred Cosart in future trades. I’m not sure if they’ll end up winning the division, but they have done a nice job in strengthening their major league roster without seriously denting the farm.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
10:03 am
Danga, I’ll say this. If the Braves had a treasure trove of prospects – not just the pitching we know about – but positional propects with great promise, I would love to see the Braves take the marlins/Rays route and get really young. Unlike those two teams, the Braves could afford to pay and get better is the kids are alright. McCann, Freeman, Prado, Lipka, Salcedo, Schafer (if he wakes up), Heyward, Minor, and all the pitchers in our trove – if they can step on the field in 2012…
I would pay to watch that team grow.
Arkansas Transplant
July 30th, 2010
10:03 am
I saw where the Rangers are being aggressive in their search to improve by at least getting Florida to listen to offers for Johnson. I think we’re pretty much at a point where we’ve got to do something. It would be a shame to build that 6 game lead after the all star break to just sit back and watch it evaporate in front of our eyes.
Bobby
July 30th, 2010
10:04 am
Danga, MiaBchBravesFan, ALinRIC: I guess the three of you have not been paying attention. The Braves are in the market for a RH OF to play vs LHP in addition to Diaz. Not an either/or situation. Heyward could play CF vs LHP with Diaz in LF and Frenchy in RF. Braves say money in this deal – Frenchy’s ‘10 cost is more than covered by KK’s departure.
NORRIS
July 30th, 2010
10:05 am
SOMETHING HAS GOTTA HAPPEN TODAY. WE NEED A MCGRIFF TYPE MOVE TO PUT SOME EXCITEMENT INTO THIS TEAM. THE PHILLIES HAVE DONE IT AND ITS TIME FOR US TO RESPOND.
I Hate Liberty Media
July 30th, 2010
10:08 am
NORRIS,
Ain’t gonna’ happen with this ownership group. And the minor league teams aren’t exactly tearing the cover off the ball.
GTSteve
July 30th, 2010
10:09 am
I don’t know what the Braves are going to do before the trade deadline, if anything, but I can promise you they are not bringing back Frenchy
Gary O
July 30th, 2010
10:10 am
On Mike and Mike this morning, Buster Olney said numbers guys (like Keith Law) are projecting that Oswalt will give the Phillies 2 more wins than Happ would. 2 wins could be a big difference in a tight division race.
Tomahawkin, brian
Chipper has already told Bobby that he would be fine if he was moved from the 3 spot, because he wants to do whatever is best for the team. But Bobby has refused to move him.
Not only is Chipper not producing like a #3 hitter should, but the fact that he misses so many games does not allow for any consistency from that position either. I think he should be moved.
Danga
July 30th, 2010
10:11 am
2 wins could be a big difference in a tight division race.
Yep.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2010
10:14 am
It’s really that the Phils didn’t have to give up much to get the guy. I mean, they acquired Roy Halladay and Roy Oswalt over the last year and never had to give up Dom Brown.
Ever so true. I read what the Rangers gave up for a half season of Lee and wonder why the Braves could only manage Kotch and Merek for a half season of Teixeira. Or, Jesse Chavez for MFIKY. Or Ridgway for Aybar. An injury prone minor league pitcher and two substandard outfielders, one of which is already trying to survive as a wild hard throwing reliever for one of the best pitchers in the league…
Then I read what the Phils gave up for Oswalt and wonder what kind of price is “too steep” for the Braves to acquire what they need.
Times like that make me question Wren. He does well in some places (Renteria for JJ and Gorkys) and suspect in others.
DAP
July 30th, 2010
10:15 am
miabchbravesfan Overnight, the Good Ship Braves has so many holes, they’ll be bailing water the rest of the season.
so many holes? like what? the truth is there are very few holes. thats why its been so hard for us to find a guy that fits our team.
ALL IS LOST
July 30th, 2010
10:15 am
I would move Meds back to the bull pen to help out the arms and fire up KK again as the #5. Move Jason to center, play Matty in right and platoon Eric and Omar in left. Better yet platoon Eric and Troy at first and Melky and Omar in left. Problem solved. 20 years of coaching 10 year olds has given me this wisdom.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 30th, 2010
10:15 am
Danga: like several people have commented in the past several days. From May to Saturday night against the Marlins – smoke and mirrors. I am not a person of faith, but baseball’s mystical way of sometimes framing things allows you to see the truth about teams.
From Conrad’s slam against Cincy, which got this run started, to Conrad’s slam against the Fish, which was the only win in a first series’ loss since May, provides a neat little sandwich of comebacks, delicately consistent hitting, and yeoman pitching.
Well, there’s no power whatsoever, the timely hitting has gone to hide, the bullpen – with the exception of Venters – has been spotty as of late, and the starting pitching has has to be almost perfect for a win to happen as of late.
What you saw in that Conrad Slam sandwich was a mirage – done with lineup smoke and mirrors. Now, that magic has left, and substance has to take over.
There is no dependable hitting substance, which has placed a domino effect of pressure on the starters and bullpen.
Sadly, I know baseball kismit when I see it. It started with Cincy…
It sadly ends in Cincy; I think the Reds will sweep because we cannot score runs.
NORRIS
July 30th, 2010
10:16 am
SURE IS QUIET ON THE TRADE FRONT THIS MORNING.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2010
10:16 am
Well – I’d like to know – when the last time the Braves “ate” someone’s contract or paid them to go away and play on another team.
If i’m correct. I think it’s a rarity for the Braves to make such a move. I’ve been a fan for 15+ years and i can’t remember the last time they did.
I’m not saying they haven’t – i just can’t remember the last time they did.
rrosson3
July 30th, 2010
10:17 am
maybe thats what needs to be done. Change up the lineup again. Swap Chip and Heyward. it couldnt hurt
dawgieswagbreggeee
July 30th, 2010
10:19 am
Bat Infante lead off (yes find a permanent spot) and move Prado to 3, Chipper to 6
Infante
JHey
The Devil Wears Prado
McHunny
Troy
Chipper
AGONZ
Diaz or Hinske
Huddy
rrosson3
July 30th, 2010
10:19 am
put chavez in AAA. move medlen to the bullpen and have Minor as the fifth starter. we need a lefty starter. there is no need for a reliever if there is anything we can fill INTERNALLY its the damn bullpen!
Danga
July 30th, 2010
10:19 am
So you are willing to judge this team based on April and since Saturday night but not all the baseball in between? It seems you are handpicking results in order to confirm a preconceived notion about this team.
rammerjammer
July 30th, 2010
10:20 am
I keep hoping that some contender will take a flyer on KK, even if it’s just for one or two mid-level prospects. When a healthy guy plays one inning in a month, that is truly a waste.
Even Nate and Lowe (well, Lowe) are giving us SOME return. And we do have options with Nate to try and turn him around. KK in this situation is a total loss write-off, which really makes no sense for our budget.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2010
10:20 am
NSS: I don’t think they ever did under JS’s watch. He had three rules, no no-trade clauses, he wouldn’t pay a player to play for some one else, and no discussion of player moves prior to enacting them.
Wren came in and tried going without the third rule and was burned badly. No he has re-adopted it. And he retained the partial NTC of Vazquez when acquiring him…but still hasn’t issued one in a contract. KK and DLowe might squeeze him on the third front, but I doubt it.
Scared
July 30th, 2010
10:20 am
How did this happen??!?!!? How did we go from 7.5 games up to 2.5 in a matter of a week!?!?!?!?!?!
Danga
July 30th, 2010
10:21 am
I would like to see Infante start about 4 times a week. Get his bat in the lineup and give some guys some regular days off here in the dog days of summer.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 30th, 2010
10:21 am
MiaBchBravesFan It started with Cincy…It sadly ends in Cincy
Ah, but this time they’re playing in Great American Ballpark!
One of the greatest parks ever…