6:06 pm July 29, 2010, by Carroll Rogers
William in Pasadena
July 29th, 201010:14 pm
I have been talling you guys for years that BC is not a great manager. Over a 162-game season he probably blows 15 to 20, enough to miss the playoffs. He is decent (I’m being generous) during the regular season. The Braves need a stud hitter in the middle of the lineup. Every playoff-caliber team has at least one. You guys should stop worrying about stockpiling a bunch of above-average pitchers. Package a deal to get Hanley Ramirez or Kemp or somebody. Why do you all buy the crap from Chipper, David Ross and other Braves players? Beat the best…heck, they can’t even beat the worst. Get some good players and get rid of the scrubs. Come playoff time, every team will have good pitching. We DO NOT have a stud pitcher, and until J-Hey matures, we DO NOT have a stud hitter. Braves managemnet does just enough to keep you guys wishing. What’s better, chemistry or talent? You guys are so in love with Chipper. He makes about as much as Lowe. He now has so much to say. He should shut his over-the-hill, injury-prone mouth and let his hitting do the talking. Oh, I’m sorry…his hitting can’t talk because he hasn’t been doing much of that. Come on guys, I love the Braves (since ‘66). But which team would you bet $10,000 on to win the division right now, the Braves or the Phillies?
Trade Hanson not Medlen!
July 29th, 201010:16 pm
The talk of trading Medlen is just nuts. Have you not been watching? One of our young pitchers looks impressive, and has gone deep into quite a few starts. The other is overrated, can’t throw a curve that doesn’t hang, gets tagged for 10 runs a handful of times an can’t go more than 6 innings on his best day. Trade Hanson……so overrated it’s just not funny. He and Lowe are virtually identical. You can count on both going about 5 innings, giving up around 4 runs.
Nats jus traded matt capps!!! That was a few hours to late maybe we could have got a 9th inng ralley
July 29th, 201010:18 pm
What happened today in the 8th? Down a run with nobody out and a runner on first, Diaz batting -although he’s been a hot hitter lately, why didn’t BC bunt him over? We all know what happened…. Oswalt, no problem – he’ll probably end up on the DL.
July 29th, 201010:25 pm
Damnit walk off win for phills!! Please wren get us some help!!!!
July 29th, 201010:31 pm
I agree with you “Trade Hanson Not Medlen”. Everybody on the tean should be available except J-Hey, Prado, B-Mac, Freeman, Teheran and a couple of other minor league pitchers. We have enough young talent to get a very good power hitter and protect the future at the same time. Stockpiling 7’s and 8’s will never win a WS. You need a couple of 9’s or a 10 to get to the next level. Just making the playoffs is not quite good enough. That what you get with 7’s and 8’s. By the way, I don’t hear any other GM’s making excuses about asking price. If Wren is going to pull the Braves’ usual and get another 7 to appease us, he might as well sit pat.
July 29th, 201010:36 pm
ONE THING ABOUT FRANK WREN, HE WILL GO OUT AND GET PLAYERS NEEDED TO HELP THE BRAVES WIN.WREN SHOULD BE GM FOR THE HAWKS INSTEAD OF RICK SUND.I GUARANTEE YOU THE HAWKS WOULD HAVE THE PLAYERS THEY NEED TO WIN.THE FANS SHOULD BOYCOTT THE HAWKS UNTIL SUND IS FIRED.IN THE MEANTIME,I HOPE THE BRAVES WILL LEARN TO BEAT THESE RINKY DINK TEAMS LIKE THE NAYTIONALS.THAT CAN BE CONTRIBUTED TO BOBBY COX LACK OF PREPARATION FOR HIS TEAM. HE’S NOT DOING WHAT HE CAN TO WIN.SOMETIMES I WONDER DOES HE CARE ABOUT
Posednik would’ve helped but they would have another corner outfielder, Braves have a bunch of those. Posednik can’t play CF, esp in Atlanta. Kemp would make the most sense but I don’t think he is/will be available. Matt Diaz isn’t an everyday player, people have to realize he excels in the role he is in. The Braves gave him the starting LF job last year and he was horrible, then got injured and played how we are seeing him now. That to me means he isn’t an everyday player
July 29th, 201010:41 pm
Call me butter. I’m on a roll today. Hank 44, this is one of the other problems I have been saying. The same thing happened in Fla. No team speed. If you had a speedy pinch runner, you steal second (at least attempt to). Then you could either bunt him to 3rd, or you have 3 chances to drive him in from 2nd. Who knows, the catcher might throw it into center. But not good ole no-steal, no hit and run Bobby. The runner dies on 1st or is erased on a double play while Bobby waits for a homerun. Remember, he costs us 15 to 20 per season.
July 29th, 201010:46 pm
Can we send the ENTIRE Braves team down to AAA?
July 29th, 201010:52 pm
It’s not a matter of how well the Braves do against Oswalt. they may see him what, once maybe twice?
It’s that they now have Halladay, oswalt, and Hamels in that rotation. They will be beating up on other teams, and that’s what hurts. We better play well in August with all those home games…
July 29th, 201010:58 pm
Have you ever heard from so many crybabies all at once? Bloggers must mostly be basement dwellers with social problems. Wa wa wa
July 29th, 201011:08 pm
I guess because we live in Georgia nascar rules apply..the Phillies don’t get credit for leading the division with 62 games left so if they take over the top spot it means nothing.Now if they have the top spot last day of the season the did something..Also Corey Hart has a wrist injury and likely won’t be traded..So stop pining for him..If you don’t like the manager or players on this team stop watching.It’s obvious most of you are fairweather It’s almost like you want to see the Braves struggle so you can actually be right about something..I feel sorry for your families for having to know you
Braves Fan Since "80
July 29th, 201011:10 pm
Hanley Ramirez, Matt Kemp, BJ Upton, Yunel ESCOBAR all have in common, drawing fire for not hustling but one got traded….. what does that say about your team that was the best team in baseball….. I think the Braves would stand up and Cheer if Chipper got traded for Escobar….. you guys wanted it…. hey WEB GEM …. Has gonzales every been nominated??????
Bad Trade…. worst than the TEX trade
July 29th, 201011:22 pm
Phillies fans are obnoxious sons of *******.They think just because they got oswalt they think there the ****.The braves will get trade for a productive player and next time we play the Phillies in September we will straight up kick some ***!Hey Phillies fans why dont you all run on the field the same time and maybe you all can get tazered LOL!
July 29th, 201011:33 pm
my five reasons for blowing the lead is becoming more and more real each game. The only way the BraVES ARE GOING TO WIN this thing is to get some better quality players!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 29th, 201011:45 pm
Hey Jeremy, I like your lineup with Dunn in there to add power but it pales in comparison to this lineup…
Rollins, Polanco, Utley, Howard, Werth, Ibanez, Brown/Victorino, Ruiz. Throw in Halladay. Hamels, The Big O and you now have 10 All-stars, 2 MVPs, WS MVP, HR leader last 5 yrs. What do you guys have? The second coming of Hank Aaron and what does he do? He warms the bench. I’ll take Domonic “The Demon” Brown over Wayward Heyward. I’ll be back when we play you guys and whoop you!!!
To all of you who think Oswalt wont help the Phils,
July 29th, 201011:51 pm
Hey “Phillies suck,”
We’ll gladly get tasered when all of you Georgians wear your white hoods and show up to support your team. AT least if we do something stupid we have the balls to show our face.
July 29th, 201011:52 pm
By the way, we thought we were the **** BEFORE we got Oswalt. I’d rather be the **** than throw **** like Derek Lowe does.
July 29th, 201011:54 pm
Like i said charles.Why dont all you phillies fans run on the field at the same time and maybe you all will get tazered!
July 29th, 201011:59 pm
Ohhh yeah do you mean the guy that embarrassed you guys last year on opening day?
July 30th, 201012:02 am
hey charles we will be back infirst monday dont worry about the braves fans like i said b4 the braves have no one that our pitcher are afraid of.frank couldnt possibe make a deal like we have GO PHILLYS
July 30th, 201012:03 am
Did you also know Oswalt is 0-3 vs the braves and is era sucks vs the braves
July 30th, 201012:09 am
did you know he did that with a poor offensive AND defensive team that was out of the playoff picture by May? Put a championship caliber team with both offensive and defensive credentials (thats Gold Gloves for people like you Jake) plus sellout 90 plus home games in a row and Oswalt will not be the Oswalt you saw play against your pitiful Braves of late.
TIM HUDSON thats it we got the big 3 in pilly.who the braves got HUDSON THATS IT.even yall braves fan on this blog agree hanson suck lowe sucks chipper needs to retire an you never no what macann gonna do an GLAUS…….HAHA WASH UP…..GO PHILLY
July 30th, 201012:37 am
Dude,Phillies bullpen Sucks A** and you guys think brown better than heyward?!?!?Who got a Home run on the 1st at bat?
July 30th, 201012:39 am
Even Jon Kruk said Phillies Bullpen suck.Braves are going after a relief pitcher and a OF.Watch tomorrow and you will see.
July 30th, 201012:56 am
Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow. By then, the phils will be in 1st place Y’ALLLLL!
July 30th, 201012:59 am
I got a feeling Matt Kemp is gonna be coming to Atlanta.
July 30th, 20101:05 am
The tag on Diaz is that he can’t hit right hand pitching, but from 2006 when he came to the Braves, through the end of 2009, he had a .288 average against righties! That pales in comparison to the .349 average against lefties for the same period of time, but that shouldn’t mask the value of hitting .288 against righties. His power is lower and his strike outs are high against right handers, but that’s about it. McLouth had a career average of .235 against righties and .257 against lefties, but he was an automatic starter until he was “knocked out” of the line-up. Not that Diaz can play CF, but hopefully you can see the lack of logic in keeping Diaz on the bench.
By the way, Infante hits LH and RH almost identically. Let’s play the guys who can hit if we need hitting. When Glaus is in a funk, move Hinske or Prado to first, and put in Diaz at LF or Infante at 2nd. Play the hot hand.
Lou from Philly
July 30th, 20107:21 am
Getting a little tight boys! We’re coming you can not hide! 2010 Eastern Division Champions!
July 30th, 20107:51 am
Get Dunn ..Trade Glaus, KK,McClouth….Diaz would hit 300 if he played everyday
July 30th, 20107:59 am
Yogi – if you were a GM for another team, would you take KK with his salary in a trade? Would you take McLouth with his salary in a trade? Who would trade for a .150 hitter making $5 million?
July 30th, 20108:12 am
They’ve blown this…should’ve never brought McClouth back…serious rally killer. Should’be sent him down to AAA sooner and left Blanco alone. Glaus is a bum again…we gotta do something there at 1st. And, Lowe is not dependable…no way we’re gonna win anything depending on him.
July 30th, 20108:38 am
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Why is no one talking up the Michael Noboa trade?
July 30th, 20109:02 am
Ever thought of sitting Glaus down for agame or two?
July 30th, 20109:06 am
I think most of our comment writers agree!! – Management has been the problem with our Braves for YEARS. They have traded good players for rentals – OVER PAID KK and Lowe who are junk ball throwers that are consistant losers. Prado could be playing 3rd base – Infante could be at 2nd – Escobar at short. – Diaz, Heyward and Gregor, O F – McCann at first(he will always be an average catcher and his career will be longer at first. I see two good starting pitchers, (can Venters start?)Ross catching Next Year Clean the House new management and coaches that do not think they owe players. Don’t sacrifice the future now for a rental fix or a maybe hitter. we have plenty. We have a great bench, but needs are evident. Bobby you should have retired years ago. Pitching, Power and Defense are needed.
July 30th, 20109:11 am
Oswalt commands attention but he’s not Don Drysdale, or Roger Clemens. He can be beat. The real issue is whether Troy Glaus can emerge from this funk he’s in. He’s the reason they got and stayed hot. Without him hitting we might finish 10 games back. We need some thunder. Chipper can no longer do it and McCann never could. Come on Troy. Act like it’s 2002!
John in NY
If the price for Greinke isnt ridiculous, why don’t the Braves just go after him? I know we’d have to give up at least Medlen but he would be a fantastic addition to the staff. Him, Hudson, JJ, Lowe, hanson…very impressive.
July 30th, 20109:14 am
CHILL BRAVES FANS!!!
July 30th, 20109:40 am
Just a matter of time until the Phillies pass the Braves. The only reason your 2 1/2 up is because of all the injuries the phillies have had. And now we have oswalt and dominic brown. Shoot for the wild card.
utley 30 and still out
victorino is out
madson set up guy missed 3 months
ruiz missed 25 games
July 30th, 20109:43 am
Get rid of Lowe that’ll make the Braves better
July 30th, 201010:03 am
Someone mentioned they thought Gonzalez had power. He did until he met the wonderful pitching coach of the Braves. Godd ole TP has struck again. I say trade Pendleton, Roger McDowell, Lowe, and KK for a bag of balls and maybe some chaulk to line the fields. We’d get the better end of that deal by far.
July 30th, 201010:13 am
Oswalt is having a miserable season and a “change in scenery” makes no difference. The Phils are on one of those 20 wins – 5 loss tears that really good teams do. They will be 3-4 games ahead of Atl by
mid-Aug. The question is what happens after this Philly run ends. The Braves are still probably playing for the wild card which is fine. The Braves are terrified by the Marlins and Nationals.
July 30th, 201010:17 am
Even if Oswalt somehow turns himself around, the Phils still have to pitch Blanton and whoever their
#5 starter is and that in itself should make Charlie Manual stay nervous.
July 30th, 201010:18 am
Oh yea Moyer is #4 followed by Blanton. That should keep any mananger awake at night.
July 30th, 201010:25 am
That is what happens when you get on the wrong side of Cox,Remember Frenchy, You sit period until he can find some one to trade you too
Phils still wont go to the ws
July 30th, 201011:23 am
halladay will not be effective in the playoffs for the phils (if at all they make it). The phils overuse him way too much, he has like 4 starts where he’s forced to go 9 complete innings. Not sure the phils bullpen is good enough, that’s just my opinion. Brad lidge is a choke ever since the phils won the ws, and they really haven’t determined their closer yet. The phils have more problems than the braves pitching wise. Go braves let’s get a slugger for some pitching prospects.
July 30th, 201011:27 am
DOB – this has probably been blogged, but Oswalt has 2 wins against the Braves in the post season – when and where it counts the most.
July 30th, 201011:33 am
the phils next year need to really clean up their bullpen in their early offseason this year. Get rid of lidge, get a legit closer, get rid of any crappy pitchers (which they have a lot of), and get younger. The phils average age is like 30. Ruben amaro has to somehow get good prospects because their farm is really dry on young talent. The phils care too much on the present and not too much on what the future is of this franchise. Howard, ibanez, utley, and j-ro wont be there in the next ten years so they have to get prospects. In the long term 10-20 yrs, the braves have a way brighter looking future than the phils.
July 30th, 201011:37 am
ruben amaro is an OK gm because he gives away too much prospects for good players (which isn’t bad for the present) but in the long term they are losing future stars and franchise players of their team. He’s not exactly a visionary, and if he kept cliff lee they would have doc, hamels, oswalt, and lee easily the best rotation in baseball but he’s not realistic and neither is he a visionary.
July 30th, 201011:52 am
Why was Lowe interviewed for this article. Does anyone here care what he thinks or says. He just needs to shut his mouth and pitch like he deserves the money we are paying him. I especially do not want to read comments from him about how the Braves playing the way they should. He needs to follow his own advice in my opion. He should be thanking mother nature for saving him from himself yesterday.
July 30th, 201011:53 am
Phillies fans aren’t even just obnoxious fans. There obnoxious human beings in general. It’s been awful quiet the past few days. With literaly “zero” Braves trade rumors. That could mean nothing, but I’m thinking it’s something big.
July 30th, 201011:54 am
i know how you feel, memphis. Man, espn acts as if the phils will win the ws just cuz they got oswalt
July 30th, 201011:55 am
Tim I don’t think Pendleton is the issue with Gonzalez. I think the issue is he was playing in a bunch of home run parks and now he is not. Wren probably is not smart enough to notice that before hand though. I will still this kid at short over Yunel every day of the week.
July 30th, 201012:11 pm
Save your breath everyone because the Braves are standing pat. If any moves are made, it will be to bring Blanco back up once they can do it. Melky, Diaz, and Hinske are the OF that will be playing along side of Heyward.
Unless someone with HR power falls into their lap, the Braves will make minimal internal moves at best.
July 30th, 201012:19 pm
Some of you guys on this blogger are just plain dumb. Maybe TP is a problem but, think about it. Prado, Heyward, Infante, Hinske, Diaz and McCann have the same hitting coach as the rest of the team. The GM goes the cheap route (don’t blame Liberty when he gave all that money to Lowe & Kawakami) and bring in guys like Glaus, and trade a future superdtar for a scrub because you don’t like his attitude. (the guy that mentioned Kemp, Hanley Ramirez, Upton drawing fire for not hustling was absolutely correct, did those guys get traded?) Most of you dummies agreed with the Escobar trade. You got what you deserved. After you get these scrubs, then you want TP to work a miracle. They are scrubs perpertrating as superstars. How do you make it to the major leagues and don’t know how to hit?
July 30th, 201012:36 pm
William in Pasadena…I wouldn’t call Alex Gonzalez a scrub.
July 30th, 201012:57 pm
TIME 2 CHANGE THE BATTING LINE UP.
1.MARTIN PRADO 2B
2.OMAR INFANTE RIGHT FIELD
3.JASON HEYWARD CENTER FIELD
4.BRIAN MCCANN CATCHER
5.CHIPPER JONES 3B
6.TROY GLAUS 1B
7.ALEX GONZALEZ SHORTSTOP
8.MATT DIAZ LEFT FIELD
Matt diaz should play every day with omar infante.
July 30th, 20101:00 pm
Erik hinske should move 2 first base.
July 30th, 20101:24 pm
Yea and we missed our ace for almost 3 months, Heyward for almost one, Cjipper off and on for pretty much one and we lost Diaz for almost 2 months, O’ Flaherty has missed alot too, forget you lar,
we have outplayed yall, get over it, dont blame it on injuries, we have had just as much, you have been outplayed get over it
July 30th, 20101:30 pm
Tommy Hanson and Melky Cabrera for Matt Kemp and Kenley Janson/James McDonald…
July 30th, 20101:32 pm
That gives us this lineup…
Notice I also am cutting ties with Glaus as we already have an OLD MAN taking up space in the infield…
Freddie : G
July 30th, 20103:07 pm
It is without a doubt that Oswalt will make the Phillies a better team, but I agree with Ross that it should not cause a panic in the Braves front office or the clubhouse. The game we blew against the Padres and two against Florida were unfortunate but all part of Baseball. We could have swept Florida and Padres and those got away. I am a troy Glaus fan but i must agree that it is time he starts producing or cox needs to give him some bench time. Chipper also needs to pick it up, he seems unhappy and you can tell the poor season is having a toll on him. What Cox does may be a bigger problem down the stretch than whatever the Phils have done. The players he pencils in and his pitching changes have always been questionable. However there is very little to question him about so far this season, he had to see what McLouth could do and the same for Hinske, Melky, Glaus. I agree that Diaz needs to play more and that Hinske should spell Glaus more at first. It may also help to have Infante and Conrad spell Chipper more regularly unless he starts hitting. Diaz, Melky and Heyward should be getting most of the playing time down the stretch. I am not convinced that Frank Wren needs to do anything as some on this blog is calling for. Frank please do not mortgage the Farm as we know the years of greatness are before us.
July 30th, 20103:22 pm
All the people on here calling for the Braves to do something, seems to forget that we did that to get Tex and we again did that to get J.D. Drew, both of whom were rentals. We do not need to make any move just to be in the playoffs, we can make the playoffs with what we have now, and for the next ten years we will rule the NL. Next year we can trade some of our minor league talent for talent who can improve the Ball Club long term. To trade now may be too expensive and who to say these guys will be better than Diaz, Infante, Hinske and Conrad.
July 30th, 20106:20 pm
I dont like any of the trade options out there, but we do need to make changes. Infante should play somewhere everyday. Henske or Freeman should be playing 1B on a regular basis. Diaz needs to play everyday. Make these changes and we will start playing better.
We also have a problem with KK, McClouth, and Lowe taking up so much of our payroll this year and next. We may have to package them with one of our young pitchers to get another team to take the excess payroll off of us so we can get some guys to help us. For the salary of KK and Lowe, we could afford Carl Crawford.
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July 30th, 20107:11 pm
Wow, we go on the best run in the majors after April, without jay-Hey or J.J. for most of it, not to mention Matt Diaz and now were a third-place team. Just as I told people in the 9-game season ending streak (lol) in April. IT IS A LONG SEASON!!! Every team goes through a down-turn at some point. And the Phils just happen to streak the other way. I’m not saying the Phils aren’t a good team, no doubt about that, but I think we are very strong as well. A few weeks ago we looked unstoppable, and I don’t think it was a fluke. Bring Freeman up and rest Glaus, play Hinske more, and if we can pick up an outfielder who can produce decent numbers with speed and solid defense without selling the future great, but I still think this team has a great mix. Don’t panic over a 10 game stretch whether in April or July or you show ignorance of true baseball knowledge, because it is far from a benchmark of a teams strength.
July 30th, 20109:52 pm
Good thing for “Chumper and Mcannt” tonight huh? You never know, its a team effort. Oh and I’ll take that effort, or lack thereof from Oswalt tonight anytime. Let’s remember he has lost more games than any major league pitcher all year. You don’t do that just for lack of run support. I know he has been a dominant pitcher for years, but he’s doing something wrong. Funny, if we weren’t paying Kawakami to sit the bench, I’m sure he would be all up in that race though…
Nova Scotia Steve - At the Bar
July 31st, 201012:56 am
Pretty bombed here folks – watched the entire game at the bar!!!! Thanks the holy lord for a victory tonight.
Just so everyone know there lots of Braves fans in Canada!!!!
Did i tell you guys i love you all…..(in a drunk slurring voice)
Even through the Cox moves…the Nate McLouth months…double plays across the board….Saito being 40….Nate and Mithcell’s ballgame calls….YOUR AND IDIOT….BARTISTA from the National beating us….Kawakami need more mummification than King Tut…Raul Mondesi….Woody Woodward….DOB’s leave of absence…and the imminent feel of absolute doom….
Hugs to all – let do a tequila
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