Stat of the Day: Bases-loaded futility

The Braves loaded the bases four times on Sunday with less than two outs and came away with only one run in a 5-4 loss.

First inning:

Alex Gonzalez popped out to short, Brooks Conrad struck out

Sixth inning:

Melky Cabrera sacrifice fly to center, Jair Jurrjens flyout to center

Seventh inning:

Troy Glaus grounds into 5-4-3 double play.

11th inning:

Nate McLouth hits into 6-4-3 double play.

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Mr. Enigma

July 25th, 2010
6:57 pm

I am not watching another Braves game until that piece of garbage Nate McLouth is off this team.

Gregor Blanco got a ticket back to AAA after hitting .320 and doing an amazing job with the bat in order to accomodate this bozo who couldn’t hit a beach ball.

I am absolutely sick of Nate McLouth. I know he’s got a contract, but I’d rather pay him to sit his worthless ass at home than to constantly kill rallies as he’s done all year long.

Mr.TIMOTHY........timothy

July 25th, 2010
7:06 pm

death…..taxes……Mcout’s outs! I am no longer able to watch or listen to his at bats. I do something more relaxing things such as coating my arse with honey and sitting on a mound of fireants.

dblplay

July 25th, 2010
7:07 pm

There comes a time to make a change. Now is the time with McLouth. It’s mental now.

You look stupid in that smartcar. Buy an F150 for gawd sake

July 25th, 2010
7:11 pm

Made me laugh Timothy

mike

July 25th, 2010
7:12 pm

Chavez? Really? ERA now on the north side of 6.00 and has never met a hitter that he didn’t serve it up to…There has to be a better answer in the bullpen than this…

You look stupid in that smartcar. Buy an F150 for gawd sake

July 25th, 2010
7:12 pm

Course Im drinking dogfishhead, the high life, and soon enough…jim beame

Hinske Da Man

July 25th, 2010
7:17 pm

If McChoke is still on this team comes Tuesday when the Braves start the series in Washington, then the entire Braves FO and coaching staff need to have their heads examined. I am sorry, but there is no way that McChoke deserves to be on the main roster and Blanco got sent back down. Blanco is a much better overall player then McChoke. McChoke had one fluke season in Pittsburgh then all of a sudden he is at top trade value which the first GM to bite is none other then Frank Wren.

Now I a usually a supporter to what Wren does, but he sure has done some bonehead things in recent memory that makes anyone scratch their head and think : What in the hell is he thinking” The McChoke trade was one of them. Another was the Soriano for Chokez. Sure Soriano was becoming a distraction for the Braves, but they couldn’t find another suitor for Soriano other then the Rays and Chokez? Chokez was on the Pirates and bombed, why on earth would you trade for him merely 2 weeks after he was traded to the Rays? Did Frank Wren all of sudden think that Chokez would be better just by putting on a different teams colors? Good grief, some people in high places are just so damn stupid.

Well if the Braves piss away this lead in the division and end up out of the playoffs, I really hope just for the sake of it the Braves fire Bobby Cox, Terry Pendelton, and Roger McDowell right before the season officially ends. I know that will never happen, but I would love to see it just because of how dumb Bobby Cox has been at times the past 5 years.

Jason Foster

July 25th, 2010
7:17 pm

The Braves announcers said the Braves are hitting .242 this season with the bases loaded, with 14 double plays. That’s the most in MLB.

Vstatenatlchamps

July 25th, 2010
7:17 pm

why is mcclouth on this team? why is jesse chavez on this team?

mikeDW

July 25th, 2010
7:25 pm

Anyone with me on creating the B-B-B! club? Bring Back Blanco!
(Sounds way more positive than the S-N-N club. Sit Nate Now!)
WT* is going through Bobby’s mind?
If only Greg Norton were still on the team…………………..

BillnJax

July 25th, 2010
7:29 pm

For all of you old time Brave fans, McLouth reminds me of Jeff Blauser after he signed his big fat contract. He was worthless after that and soon lost his confidence and finally was replaced in the lineup and eventually traded. Or how about Jon Koncak with the Hawks, never any good after the big contract he signed back in the day. These guys need to prove themselves after the contract or pay the money back.

2ndHalf

July 25th, 2010
7:33 pm

And to top the weekend off, the Phillies just won thier 4th in a row. I’m not worried about the Mets,
However Phila. always seem to heat up in the 2nd half of the season.

Jimmy Beam, you are my friend

July 25th, 2010
7:35 pm

Did someone call me? Mr. “something something F150….” — it’s true. My friend Jimmy is the only consolation I can find after the game today. Ouch. At least you weren’t subjected to the clown announcers on the Marlins feed. That only made it worse.

Now, speaking of worse, I’ve got to get back to some consoling….

Sam Fossela

July 25th, 2010
7:38 pm

Let’s face it. The Braves have never replaced Andrew Jones or Raphael Furcal. They don’t have a replacement for Chipper Jones, at least not for the long haul. It’s too bad the owners didn’t want to pony up for Furcal. It’s too bad that Andrew had to leave the way he left. He would be a better bet in CF than Mclouth.

Tom

July 25th, 2010
7:40 pm

I remember Norton’s days, at least he hit it out of the infield!!!

Jesse Stone

July 25th, 2010
7:48 pm

I was at the game today, but when I watch at home, I am forced to watch the Marlins bush-league telecast as well. For all of you that complain about the Braves broadcast, tun in to the Marlins broadcast sometimes. AWFUL!
Wanna know how cheap the Marlins are? MLB had to MAKE them spend some of the luxury tax money that was given to them. They are too damn cheap to fix the out-of-town scoreboard ath the stadium. Instead of fixing it, they just drape a huge MLB Networksign over it. Also, on most of the stadium’s promotional giveaways, you must play a scratch-off game to win the giveaway. It’s a bush-league run franchise, but besides Hanley Ramirez it’s a very likeable team.

Bruce Mac

July 25th, 2010
7:52 pm

8 Reasons Braves will lose the pennant
1. Mark Bradley jinxed them
2. Bobby and Frank would rather lose than admit they made a mistake giving McOut Milliions
3. KK is still in the bullpen
4. The miracle that was Troy Glaus has died
5. The Phillies are better at every position except 2 (Catcher and Second)
6. Bobby Cox is set in his ways
7..Melky’s defense
8..Mark Bradley made a stupid prediction as they lost 3 out of 5 games.

tim

July 25th, 2010
8:00 pm

I don’t understand why McGarbage and Chavez are still wearing major league uniforms. Glaus needs to sit down on a regular basis it is obvious that something is physically wrong with him. The two afore mentioned idiots need to be left in Miami. McGarbage couldn’t hit water if he fell out of freakin boat.

gcs

July 25th, 2010
8:04 pm

Bobby Cox made so many mind-boggling moves in this game:

Pinch running Diaz for McCann – I understand getting speed on the base paths but why use Diaz when he knows he’ll have to be lifted for another catcher (Ross)? He basically burned two pinch hitters and lost the two hottest hitters on the team. Either keep McCann in or PR with a pitcher like Hudson.

Pinch running McLouth for Hinske – why make this move so early with potentially another at bat coming Hinske’s way in the ninth? Furthermore, if you intended to leave this pinch runner in the game why not use Diaz or Infante?

Saito was pretty well rested. With a day off Monday, why not give him a second inning?

Why use Jesse Chavez with Dunn and Wagner in the bullpen? You got lucky yesterday, do you really think this bum is going to turn things around now? And why stick with him when it was clear he was sucking?

WHY has Bobby been ignoring Omar Infante?? He is hitting .327! McLouth is hitting half that. Infante has not started a game since July 20 and that was at third base.

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Joe Mama Angie Daddy

July 25th, 2010
8:12 pm

Would someone please still those pictures that Nate McClouth has of Bobby Cox!

jimmymack

July 25th, 2010
8:14 pm

we need a stud outfielder or at least a starter not another 4 man

Bob Horner

July 25th, 2010
8:17 pm

Calm down folks….you act like McClouth ran over your dog…..and drove off laughing….(the dog lived you had a $1000 Vet bill)

I think today was the final straw w/ BC…McClouth is gone…that said as Carroll alluded to….the Bravos had a bases loaded futility meltdown…it wasn’t just Nate….

Bob Horner

July 25th, 2010
8:28 pm

@ gcs…..remind me to never argue w/ you…damn good post….you do have the benefit of hindsight as I do….Bobby sould have pinch run Infante not Nate…..Bobby is sooooo freaking loyal….he was hoping Nate got it done…..that didn’t happen….

mikeDW

July 25th, 2010
8:29 pm

Is it just me, or does it seem that often times, when an athlete retires young, he gets into the business of insurance sales. Perhaps if we all promise to buy at least one life insurance policy, and one auto insurance policy from Nate, he will go ahead and retire.

reason

July 25th, 2010
8:34 pm

McClouth, is another case of Kelly Johnson, no matter how bad the guy played, he was in the line-up every day. Cox not only ignored Diaz or Infante, his first baseman is not doing it. Cox, is has sparks, of mental break-down. You have to play your best players, not your favorite player. To the players who want to be an umpire and a hitter to, it won’t work, you carry a bat to home plate, to protect the plate when you have two strikes. Trading McClouth, would help more than trading Escobar.

rugburn

July 25th, 2010
8:35 pm

it wasn’t just mccouth, but it was typical mcclouth. do they not know the take sign. why is this poor of a hitter swinging at first pitches(saturday) 2-0 pitches(sunday) with the bases loaded. didn’t he play little league ball(if he didn’t, it’s too late now. they wouldn’t trade a 10 year old aluminum bat to get him.

Bob Horner

July 25th, 2010
8:46 pm

what jersey is the drummer wearing @ 1:05……if you got head phones crank it…if you don’t like southern rock…..then it sux 2BU……

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg21Rkew874&feature=avmsc2

Yoda

July 25th, 2010
8:48 pm

Who let Norton back on the team…..Cox treats McOut just like he diid Norton last year….YIKES~~!!!!! Dumb Cox Dumb!

Largo

July 25th, 2010
8:49 pm

The Braves will not win the East with a 300+ hitter sitting on the bench while a loser hitting .160 keeps hitting into double plays Also, Glaus is doing nothing except getting his 1 for 4 with no RBIs daily. Cocks has a right to be stupid but I think He’s abusing the privilege.

Bob Horner

July 25th, 2010
8:50 pm

@ reason…..Kelly looked good stiking out…he had some good “cuts”…just sayin…..

Gary O

July 25th, 2010
8:58 pm

Maybe this will force Frank Wren’s hand again. Because at this point, melky and mclouth are 4th outfielders.

We need another offensive threat.

Bob Horner

July 25th, 2010
9:01 pm

@ mikeDW …I don’t believe in life insurance..(it’s genetic..dad, grandad, etc…) we hate paying the premium while we are living..!!?? is that wrong..??

Choppin' Chief

July 25th, 2010
9:19 pm

Don’t worry. McClouth will be gone by Saturdays trade deadline. He’ll either be cut or part of a package deal, but he will be gone. We will also have a new center fielder. Can’t wait to find out who it will be.

count_schemula

July 25th, 2010
9:19 pm

No real need to “showcase” McLouth. Pretty sure no team needs a .160 hitter who can’t even get 1 run in with the bases loaded 1 out. When he came up in that situation, I thought to myself, this is his career with the Braves right here. He needs to get a run home, or else. Or else is Blanco in center field and McLouth designated for assignment. And might as well swap Chavez for Kimbrel as well too. Cox works his bullpen, Kimbrel will have plenty of opportunities to pitch.

Hinske Da Man

July 25th, 2010
9:21 pm

Its still mind blowing that their are no trade rumors involving the Braves even though their starting CF (McSucks) fails miserably every single time he is in a important situation.

Their bullpen is strong, but when you stick Chockez out there and he single handily coughs up the game, then you need to be in play to either get another arm in a trade, or send his worthless ass down and bring someone else up that will help this team.

There is no way in hell that McSucks and Chokez deserves to be on this main roster. Blanco is a much better option for the OF, and anyone is a better option in the bullpen then that waste of space Chokez.

I will say this much, if the Braves don’t make any moves this week to improve their team, then they deserve to not win the division. If the Phillies and Mets go out and get stronger for the final couple of months of the season and the Braves stand idle, then I hope the Braves get what they deserve. There are no excuses for sitting idle while other teams in your division get stronger. That is the one thing that I can absolutely not stand about the Atlanta Braves.

crymeariver

July 25th, 2010
9:22 pm

Glaus will get hot again. McLouth, even if he manages to hit it hard, it is right at somebody.

bang'm

July 25th, 2010
9:22 pm

ya know if you lose cause you just get beat that’s one thing…
but losing when you could of done something about it is just awful. I can’t tolerate that.

Poor Nate if he was to ever read such comments. The kid is trying, just aint workin. Don’t kill the man.

Poppa Woody

July 25th, 2010
9:23 pm

McLouth sucks.

Skeezix

July 25th, 2010
9:23 pm

For sure, we need a better bat at Center, but it also looks more and more like First is a problem. We can’t win this thing with the big holes Gloss and McOut currently create in the line up. It kills me watching Omar and Conrad sitting on the bench. Both should be starting. Bobby and Frank need to make some decisions quick because the Phillies have gotten their train back on the track.
What did Chavez think he was doing out there tonight—throwing batting practice? He needs to be replaced too. Also, it bothers me that Lowe can’t pitch pass the fifth/sixth inning; because of the cumulative wear and tear he will put on the bullpen by September.

obee

July 25th, 2010
9:24 pm

I love all you people who think the answer is to trade McLouth. How many teams do you think are standing in line for a player having a terrible year but making a pretty hefty salary. Dream on.

Poppa Woody

July 25th, 2010
9:27 pm

Don’t be such a pessimist, obee, we could get a box of balls for him.

Ralph

July 25th, 2010
9:27 pm

I wish you people would stop talking about trading McS**t, you couldn’t give him away even if they pay all his salary, whenever they release him he is finished, someone may sign him to a minor league contract.

BobtheBlogger

July 25th, 2010
9:27 pm

The Braves have several options better than McLouth at this point: Cabrera, Blanco, and Infante. Infante should be on the field somewhere every day there is a lefty starting picture, and a lot of days when there is a righty. And the same for Diaz. Sitting the hot hitters and playing the dead weight is getting very frustrating to watch.

obee

July 25th, 2010
9:29 pm

why would a team get rid of a perfectly good box of balls for the chance to pay millions in salary?

Poppa Woody

July 25th, 2010
9:31 pm

Sheezix, I’ve been screaming for a Glaus/Hinske righty-lefty platoon at first. Glaus is tired.

crymeariver

July 25th, 2010
9:33 pm

McLouth with a 3-0 count will take the next pitch for a strike, swing and miss at the next pitch(that would be ball four).
Count now at 3-2, McLouth will A. Hit a weak grounder directly at an IF.
B. Hit “can of corn” to OF.
C. Swing and miss for strike 3.
D. Take a called strike 3.
Answer: He’ll make an out.

Ralph

July 25th, 2010
9:34 pm

I agree with “choppin chief” but we can’t wait til saturday to quit using McNothing.

crymeariver

July 25th, 2010
9:36 pm

Just kidding, I look for McLouth to turn it around soon.

Wat Wat Wat

July 25th, 2010
9:37 pm

it is time to accept that we will have to eat all of McClouth’s contract. with chip (maybe) retiring at the end of this season, we can do that. Either way it’s going to be hard to pay deserving players soon enough. KK can’t come off the books fast enough, trade mcclouth w/ a pitcher or two for a solid, powerful righty in the outfield. glaus will heat up, and if he doesn’t hinske, conrad or martin could start at first.

I’d say package mcclouth, medlen, and maybe another pitcher (delgado?). the recipient will surely dfa mcclouth but won’t have to worry about that contract

Braves Fan

July 25th, 2010
9:38 pm

OBEE,
Ain’t nobody saying trade him. Just sit his ass on the bench or release him. There is no market for a .160 hitter. Is it a coincidence that him coming back the Braves are losing. You send a .300 plus hitter back to the minors. I was afraid of this. Same thing with Kelly Johnson when Martin was clearly better in every category. The whole problem is the guy writing the lineup.

jesse james

July 25th, 2010
9:40 pm

As bad as McLouth is the Braves have got to hit with runners in scoring position. Glaus has been terrible and he has got to deliver more than he has. I really don’t see how McLouth only role could be as a late inning pinch runner or defensive replacement. But good teams deliver when men are in scoring position. You won’t win in the playoffs.

Fan since 1977

July 25th, 2010
9:41 pm

Current ownership cares less about winning and more about not wanting to eat McLouth’s and KK’s salary. They could be designated for assignment, and if they refuse, obtain an unconditional release. But they still get full contract $$, and any other team only has to pay the waivers fee to get them.

jesse james

July 25th, 2010
9:41 pm

Oh I forgot one thing, how do you keep playing McLouth and you trade Franceour. And I am not a big Franceour fan.

Bobby

July 25th, 2010
9:42 pm

@ Braves Fan…did you just “call me out”..??

Mike Bradley, Mark's evil twin

July 25th, 2010
9:43 pm

Did Bobby molest Wes Helms when he was young player with Braves farm system or something? This guy killzzz us!!! As for McClouth, he is just one of those guys that can play for crappy team (Pittsburgh, K.C., D.C.)and be comfortable and get hits but on a good team he just can’t get it done (Jose Guillen, Demetrie Young, Mark Grudzalanek, Tye Wiggington). No harm in it, just get him out of the lineup. All year I have bragged to my friends about how we don’t have that one bum that Bobby roles out there everyday (Greg Norton, Greg McMichael, Keith Lockhart, etc..) and lose games. Maybe he has found his man in McClouth. He looks like an overmatched midget at the plate. I love Blanco off the bench but we still need another starting OF. The Phillies are coming hard.(That’s what she said)!

Frank James

July 25th, 2010
9:44 pm

I’m your big brother Jessie…CALM DOWN….Braves are okay…(I hope..??!!)

Poppa Woody

July 25th, 2010
9:44 pm

Yes he did, Booby, and he said something about yo’ mama, too.

Wes Helms

July 25th, 2010
9:48 pm

I wanted it…..no issues here..My mission in life was to please Bobby….

jmthoughts

July 25th, 2010
9:48 pm

Since he came to the Braves, Nate is batting .225 and has as many strikeouts as hits. If only he had struck out today. I’ve read comments that his only value is essentially as a throw in but with about $10M due over the next two years, good luck getting a team to take that kind of throw in. I would expect to see him in the line up this week to get more ab’s. His trade value can only go up but not if he doesn’t play. Don’t we have a player-to-be-named later deal to close with someone?

Michael D

July 25th, 2010
9:51 pm

Yesterday I said that Mc Clouth and Chavez should both be sent to the minors, because they are the two weakest links on the team. Today they both proved me right. I wish Bobby Cox were as smart as me.

If Mc Clouth could have gotten one run in, Wagner pitches the 11th inning.
I also said that Kawakami is just taking up space, because Cox never uses him. We are playing with a 22 man roster.

Hope for the Braves

July 25th, 2010
9:52 pm

Man we lose a game and everyone goes crazy. The Braves will play again Tuesday and life will go on.Its not the end of season we have a 5 game lead. Have a little faith that management can also see the problems and correct them. Stop the BS. Nate didn’t lose the game. The Braves had many chances to win, get a grip. The homeplate ump did more than most by letting Braves play in rain and not calling the low strikes. The Braves will be ok.

Justafan

July 25th, 2010
9:56 pm

Jesse James @9:41…can’t believe U said that. I know U are smarter than that.

Mike Bradley, Mark's evil twin

July 25th, 2010
9:57 pm

I heard them talking about the Dan Haren trade today and they said the Diamondbacks are interested in moving Adam Laroche.Bobby could have him back and then platoon him with Glaus. Maybe get Kelly in the trade too and platoon with Prado. Then re sign Julio Franco for pinch hitting and Bobby can really leave his mark before he retires.

Rhino

July 25th, 2010
9:58 pm

Screaming Mimi? Call it whatever you want. Today was tough to watch. There are no more excuses for McLouth as far as I’m concerned.

http://www.rhinorant.com

VinceVanGo

July 25th, 2010
9:59 pm

Bobby Cox stuck with Norton & Kelly Johnson in 2009. He’s sticking with McClouth & Chavez in 2010. One thing we can look forward to is that Cox won’t be sticking with anybody in 2011. I’m a broken record and said this all year long. Infante & Hinske need to be in the lineup everyday. Put Glaus on the D.L. for 2 weeks to rest his knee(or is it the old shoulder injury acting up)? Let Hinske play first or left, Infante play left, center, short, third or second, and let Prado play second or first until Glaus is rested. Matt Diaz needs to play every time a lefty is on the mound. This is a very unusual team and a manager could easily platoon daily at 5 or 6 positions and continue winning. When will Mr. Cox realize it? Play the hot hitters Bobby, please!

Braves20

July 25th, 2010
10:00 pm

The broken record continues to play – a hitter with some pop please Mr. Wren. And Chavez to Triple A while you’re at it. We cannot win with a nine man pitching staff which is what we have with Chavez and KK on the roster. And just how many weeks since Glaus has gone deep?

Baldemar Huerta

July 25th, 2010
10:03 pm

Somebody needs to kneecap McLousy, as that’s the only way he isn’t going to play. Same with GLouse.

jesse james

July 25th, 2010
10:13 pm

Hell Franceour could hit a sac fly. My point was we made a move with him lets make one with Mclouth, get rid of him. My everyday outfield would be Diaz in left, Cabrera in center and Heyward in right. Play Infante when they someone needs a day off.

jesse james

July 25th, 2010
10:14 pm

What would it take to get Dunn from the Nationals? I am concernd about Glaus. No power anymore.

Marc in FL

July 25th, 2010
10:15 pm

I really hope Nate breaks out in a big way – and if he doesn’t do in the next 3-4 games I hope he gets put on waivers.

I understand people have slumps, but he’s having the baseball equavilant of a mid-life crises right now. Just terrible all around. You can’t deny Blanco was getting it done. Not with big flashy homers, but he was doing the little things right and we were better as a team for it.

Marc in FL

July 25th, 2010
10:17 pm

I’m not as worried about Glaus, he’s a streaky guy. When he gets hot again it’ll be like last time and he’ll be the best slugger in baseball for two weeks and then start cooling off again. That’s OK, I don’t mind streaky so long as the guy is crazy-hot when he’s on, and Glaus is that kind of player, so I’ll take that no problem.

McLouth isn’t streaky though, he’s simply falling apart.

jesse james

July 25th, 2010
10:20 pm

I remember reading that during spring training TP was trying to work with McLouth and he wasn’t willing to change his approach. Still trying to hit it out of the park and pulling everything. The DP he hit into in the 11th was really his best at bat. Went with pitch, hit it hard, just right at them. Bottom line is he is trying to pull the ball most of the time.

jesse james

July 25th, 2010
10:21 pm

Streaky worries me, if we are fortunate to get to post season. He could be another Sheffield 1 for 24. I worry about hitters that don’t make adjustments.

My Patooti

July 25th, 2010
10:54 pm

One poster this afternoon said not to worry, the Phillies were still 5 1/2 games back. Don’t look now but since they won today and if they win tomorrown(yep CO again) they will only be 4 1/2 back. That’s nothing and even worse when you realize the Braves and Phils play 6 out of the last 12 games of the season. BC and FW better get it fixed now or it’s all over. Get rid of “the viruses” now and make some serious headway in August where the Braves have 19 home and 10 away games. Only way to make it work.

Dunwoody Brave

July 25th, 2010
10:58 pm

Isn’t about time that Troy Claus only plays against lefthanded pitchers? He is really hurting the Braves right now producing hardly anything out of the four hole.

Karen T

July 25th, 2010
11:09 pm

@ Jesse James…. I agree completely “My everyday outfield would be Diaz in left, Cabrera in center and Heyward in right.” What else does Diaz have to do to prove himself??? Jeezzzzz… and why would Bobby sit him when he was “SMOKING HOT”…at least play them til they cool off some..

thunderbull56

July 25th, 2010
11:10 pm

A bunt would have done it. O yeah, can’t ask any of those mighty sluggers to earn an RBI like that now can we?

BobtheBlogger

July 25th, 2010
11:16 pm

Yes, Glaus is killing us too. Why not let Henski have some ABs vs. right handers? Glaus trotting to first on a walk looks as bad as Bobby trying to trot to the mound.

Is there any way McLouth can just be sent down to AAA until he improves?

Joey

July 25th, 2010
11:16 pm

McLouth and Chavez. Who is worse?

But guess who loves them both?

Our Bobby.

rob

July 25th, 2010
11:20 pm

ok so we know we need to make a move for an outfielder – who should FW go after? Werth? Ross, someone else?

Rhino

July 25th, 2010
11:24 pm

Someone else, rob. Someone named Dunn. IMO

http://www.rhinorant.com

The Abs Man

July 25th, 2010
11:28 pm

As bad a day and as poor a job as McLouth and Jesse “Diseased” Chavez had Sunday, BrainDead Bobby was worse.
There is no—NONE–intelligent reason McLouth should hit with bases loaded and Infante available. None. A little kid macking cotton candy knows that….
There is no—AGAIN NONE–intelligent reason Chavez should pitch in a meaningful situation unless he the last of the Mohicans. Chavez is mop-up only, the garbage can of the bullpen. Million-dollar arm, 5-cents brain. Like that in Tampa, like that in Pittsburgh.

Bobby Cox is a nice ol’ man by all accounts, but these endless plaudits are a joke. As a game tactician, a late-inning manager he is constantly out-matched, out-thought. out-foxed.

There us a reason Braves haven’t won in post season in a decade: 2001 beat Houston, before blown out in 5 by Arizona. Braves haven’t been in post season since 2005, and lost in first round 2002 thru ‘05.
And the way BrainDead managed Sunday’s fiasco in Miami, we ALL KNOW WHY.

J-Man

July 25th, 2010
11:30 pm

If you want McClouth and Chavez off this team vote yes then put your number (1.) And lets see how high we can get this petition

Rhino

July 25th, 2010
11:37 pm

Depends what they’re replaced with, J-Man.

http://www.rhinorant.com

Rhino

July 25th, 2010
11:37 pm

I don’t think Mike Dunn or Kimbrel are ready yet.

J-Man

July 25th, 2010
11:44 pm

Well Rhino i actually agree Dunn needs control and Kimbrell needs an offspeed pitch. I say Will Ohman and Kyle Farnsworth. They wont take that much to get either one and it would help out the bull-pen, With Hart hurt he might not get traded so that leaves Josh Willingham as the outfield bat to get.

quit crying and just enjoy the ups and downs

July 26th, 2010
12:36 am

WOW! Everybody calm down a bit – the marlins have always played the braves tough. We’ve had a great season so far! Worth watching for a change. Don’t blame Mclouth, don’t blame anybody. It’s one series. You can’t win them all. the braves are doing fine. Last I checked we were up 6 on Phillie and 8 on the mets and marlins. Mclouth may get through this, and if he doesn’t, Blanco is in the wings. let’s enjoy the season.

Marty the Marine

July 26th, 2010
12:49 am

No one should be blaming Frank Wren for trading for Nate Mclouth. When that deal was done it was very imopresseive. He was a gold glove all star center fielder that we got for a bargain. Blame Nate Mclouth for his poor production. Ultimately he is the one who is responsible for the way he plays. Bobby Cox isnt the one swinging the bat, yes he decides who’s hitting but gimme a break; Mclouth is what? 4 or 5 games back from the DL. Yeah Cox gives his players chances but Mclouth has been a good player longer than he has been a bad player, Every single manager in MLB would give Nate Mclouth the same chance.

I’ve always given Terry Pendelton the benefit of the doubt but it is starting to look pretty suspect when you look at how guys like Kelly Johnson and Jeff Francoeur are hitting with other teams. I think that it’s very possible TP not only doesnt get the manager job after this season but might be out of a job completely. I would wait till the season was over but I think it might be the best thing to find a new hitting coach.

While I used to dislike Roger McDowell now I love what he has done with the pitching staff. Tommy Hanson hasn’t pitched as well as I would of hoped this year but I think that can be attributed to more of a sophomore slump than anything. It’s been awhile since the Braves could have a guy on the mound every single night that gave them a chance to win. I missed those days but man they feel great again.

All in all I really think the Braves are gonna hold on to the division. They’re playing classic National League baseball and show guts every single night. Look at all the close and late games they’ve won, not to mention the late come from behind wins. Remember the last 2 years and the number of 1 run losses? Haven’t had that problem this year. A power bat for the outfield would be a huge asset but I believe the Braves have the pitching necessary to sustain a playoff push. How nice would it be to see the Braves beat the Yankees in the World Series this year? To me that would be the absolute perfect way to send Bobby Cox off into the sunset. Maybe I’m being overly optimistic but I truly feel like it is gonna be the dream season. I really believe in these Braves and that’s what makes baseball so great.

Rhino

July 26th, 2010
12:50 am

I don’t want any part of Farnsworth. Ohman wouldn’t be bad but I don’t know. The Braves already have 2 good lefties in Venters and O’Flaherty. If KK is going to stay in the bullpen, I’d like to see him used more. Simply pitching him over Chavez would be a huge step in the right direction and might be all it takes.

I don’t want Hart. The Brewers want way too much for him. I think Blanco is a fine option if he can keep hitting but who know’s if he can. Willingham is good and would probably be inexpensive but he’s terrible at defense and I wouldn’t want to pay for his career year he’s having offensively. I think Adam Dunn would be a great fit although he’s a lefty hitter. Other than that, I don’t know about an OF. But I never saw the Braves getting McLouth when they did, so who knows what FW has up his sleeve.

Great discussion topic though, J-Man.

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Marty the Marine

July 26th, 2010
12:52 am

ugghhh…I misspelled impressive in the first paragraph, my apologies, I should of read what I wrote before posting it..

brando

July 26th, 2010
1:50 am

I heart Nate Mclouth :) ………………just kidding I hate that guy

Chief Knockahoma

July 26th, 2010
2:54 am

I would really like to see Wren bring in Jose Bautista. He would be cheap, versatile, and would bring more power.

john d

July 26th, 2010
3:31 am

I can’t believe everyone is blaming McLouth. He’s doing his best. The problem is the moron in the dugout that keeps playing him! He continually refuses to put his best players on the field. I can’t believe he keeps Infante on the bench!! I’ve allways said that Bobby is the most overrated manager in all of baseball! If I were Infante I would demand a trade! It appears Bobby’s trying to ruin this kids career!!!

Bobbeeee's Cox

July 26th, 2010
3:57 am

ok so we know we need to make a move for an outfielder – who should FW go after? Werth? Ross, someone else?

Hunter Pence.

Packer ed

July 26th, 2010
6:15 am

Vstatenatlchamps said it best, “Why is Chavez and Nate on this Braves Team? If we know they do not belong, Braves management does. Cut them both and bring up Kimbrel and Blanco! I would rather have Franceour.

Remembering 1991

July 26th, 2010
6:53 am

Braves should have obviously swept the Marlins. Half of their remaining 64 games are with teams that are currently below .500, including 21 games with Nats and Fish. If they can’t beat sub-par teams, they don’t deserve winning the division, or if they do, it will be another quick exit. It is really quite simple Mr. Cox, go back to the lineup that got you here. First step: Bring up Blanco and bench McClouth.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

July 26th, 2010
7:03 am

this was a bad series to lose, we had them. hopefully the off day will help and they can go into DC and sweep the Nats

Terry

July 26th, 2010
7:06 am

Please get rid of McLouth!!! Diaz should have been pinch-hitting for Klaus. Cox blew it. Play Diaz everyday while he is hot!!!

Cecil34

July 26th, 2010
8:17 am

Two things I have seen that are typical of this organization…

Diaz has always hit well in whatever they call the Marlin’s stadium this week – does he play? No. Cox blew it with this decision.

The Glaus experiment has run out of steam – Glaus has run out of steam. The Braves don’t need streaky hitters for 3 weeks, they need consistency.

Braves management thought they could do better than LaRoche – everyone complained that LaRoche only hit the second half of the season, etc.

Well, he should have never been let go – matter of fact, they should have signed him for 2 years – I have seen Freeman at Gwinnett and he does have 12 homers, but he needs another year at AAA.

Hinske should be starting at first and Herr Glaus should sit for a week or two. Better yet, trade Glaus and let Hinske have it full time – this man hits.

I am not sold on this team. When they lose, it is ugly. Let them get into the playoffs and run into top quality pitching every night, and watch what happens. Cox will find ways to lose with how he fills out the lineup card.

I hope I am wrong, but watch what happens.

Hinske Da Man

July 26th, 2010
9:05 am

Mark Bradley says it like it is ” The Braves Must let McLouth Go” how true is that? The guy is useless, and the Braves most definitely need to send him packing. Eat their losses and call it a flop.

Also, I would love to see the Braves trade for Derek Lee. Looks like the Rangers are in hot pursuit of Lee, but of the Braves could get him, that would make a huge difference in this lineup. Go get him Wren, and show us fans that you are in it to win it.

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