McLouth poised for his return, NL West-leading Padres in town

(Staff writer Carroll Rogers is filling in today for David O’Brien.)

Hello strangers! And I’m not just saying that because y’all are weird (smile)…I’m back from a week long vacation and ready to see if I remember how to type, blog, tweet, report, write, interview and take in a little baseball.

We’ve got a good bit going on today around the ol’ Braves – and heck, even without them playing yesterday we were all over them with stories in the paper today – about the world’s greatest usher Walter Banks, Viv’s feature on Omar Infante, Bradley’s column on the trading deadline,  a story on Jonny Venters/Bobby Cox suspensions, and oh yeah, an advance box for the Padres series.

Nate McLouth is expected to return today. He wrapped up his minor league rehabilitation stint with the Gwinnett Braves on Sunday and Jordan Schafer returned to center field last night in Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.

That leaves the Braves 10 games before the July 31 trading deadline to see what they’re dealing with at center field, how McLouth has recovered from his June 9 concussion, and what they want to do, if anything, at that position.

McLouth hit .258 (8-for-31) in seven games with Class AAA Gwinnett and by all accounts has made some adjustments to cut down on the upper cut in his swing. He struck out only three times in those 31 at-bats, so that’s a good sign.

Gregor Blanco will likely say his goodbyes today and head back for Gwinnett. He’s done some nice things for the Braves in McLouth’s absence, hitting .310 (18-for-58) in 35 games with a double, a triple, three RBIs and nine runs scored. He’s shown the Braves he can be someone they can count on when rosters expand.

Minor/Freeman

Before we get away from Gwinnett, take a look at Mike Minor’s numbers after another good start last night: he’s 3-0 with a 1.93 ERA in three starts since his call-up to Triple-A, giving up only four earned runs in 18 2/3 innings. He’s walked six and struck out 20. He also pitched a perfect inning in the Futures Game.

Judging by the numbers, it seems he’s gotten better against better competition, or maybe he’s helped by having better defense behind him. I know he’s been mentioned as potential trade fodder. I have a hard time seeing the Braves giving up the first round prospect in a deal, when he’s so close to being major league ready, but we’ll have to see how this plays out.

Freddie Freeman also has two home runs in his last three games and has raised his batting average for the year to .291 by hitting .318 in June and .333 so far in July. I’m not sure you start the clock on him with a September call-up, but the Braves might be tempted if he keeps this up.

Venters/Cox

We should find out today if the Braves plan to appeal Venters’ four-game suspension for hitting Prince Fielder, and the answer is likely yes, if for no other reason than to stall a little.

With the Padres and their pitching staff in town, the Braves won’t have much room for error this series, and it doesn’t help that Eric O’Flaherty is on the DL. O’Flaherty is not eligible to come off until the day before the Braves travel to Washington for a three-game series July 27.

So an appeal would buy some time and might get the suspension knocked down to two or three games.

Venters has proven a valuable piece of this bullpen. Among rookie relievers with at least 30 appearances in the majors, Venters is first in ERA (1.28), opponents’ batting average (.172) and strikeouts (43).

Cox will serve his one-game suspension today – there’s no formal appeal process for manager.

NL West-leading Padres

The Braves are looking to get back on their winning-series track against the team they trail by only one-half game for the best record in the National League. (The Padres are 54-37 to lead the NL West and the Braves are 54-38 to lead the NL East. The Padres have been the surprise leader in the NL West since April 20 and manager Bud Black was just rewarded with a contract extension Monday.)

Jair Jurrjens would like a little redemption tonight against the team that embarrassed him pretty good in a 17-2 loss on April 12 in San Diego. Jurrjens gave up a career-high eight runs in 3 1/3 innings in that game, but was also battling shoulder soreness left over from spring training.

(He’d allowed only two earned runs in 13 2/3 innings in his other two career starts against the Padres.)

Now three starts into his return from missing two months with a hamstring injury, Jurrjens is healthy and pitching like the ace he’s been the last two seasons.

Jurrjens is 2-0 with a 2.55 ERA in his three starts back, and he was dominant in a 2-1 win Thursday against the Brewers. He went 6 2/3 innings, for the longest outing of the three since his return, and broke the 90-pitch mark for the first time in that span (91). I’m sure he’ll be trying to go even deeper tonight.

The Braves face Wade LeBlanc, who besides having one of my great family names for a first name, is having a nice year in his first full season in the Padres rotation. The University of Alabama product has stumbled a bit lately though, going 0-3 with a 4.50 ERA in his past four starts.

He’ll face the Braves for the first time tonight, while becoming the fourth consecutive left-hander they’ve faced and fifth in the last six games, going back to Johan Santana in New York before the All-Star break. The Braves are still under .500 against left-handers at 15-16, and 1-3 against left-handed starters over their past five games.

The Braves will avoid hard-throwing 22-year-old ace Mat Latos, who is on the disabled list with a strained oblique (and perhaps simply to buy a little rest), and not set to return until Saturday against the Pirates.

Pitching is why the Padres are here. Their starters are tied for second in the NL with a 3.50 ERA and their bullpen leads the NL with a 2.79 ERA. Offensively, not so much. The Padres’ .253 team batting average is 14th in the league.

Jones back?

With the off day Monday and an extra day to rest his hamstring, I’d expect Chipper Jones to be back in the lineup tonight but I’ll let you know when I get to the ballpark. Meantime, I’m posting this blog!

2,511 comments Add your comment

Brave4life-1995 all over again??

July 20th, 2010
12:40 pm

coach smith

July 20th, 2010
12:41 pm

Snotboogie

Its not about having DIAZ instead of ANDRUW, it is about having ANDRUW INSTEAD of McLouth or Melky

I’d take Andruw over either of them

dawgiesbreggee

July 20th, 2010
12:42 pm

if you’re not 15th, you’re last !

Brave4life-1995 all over again??

July 20th, 2010
12:43 pm

Nice work, Rogers

DAVBRAVES

July 20th, 2010
12:43 pm

dawgiesbreggee

July 20th, 2010
12:44 pm

The Pods may well have the worst starting lineup of ANY mlb leading team I can remember

DAVBRAVES

July 20th, 2010
12:44 pm

bvillebaron

July 20th, 2010
12:44 pm

Glad to see McLouth is back.

Snotboogie

July 20th, 2010
12:46 pm

coach smith

Ok – but would you take Andruw with his low average and not-so good numbers away from that ballpark? Also the additional problem of 5 OFs. If McLouth can hit above .250, it might be better than what Andruw can produce at turner field. Melky’s numbers also lately have been looking better than Andruw’s. That’s my reason for not having him back.

TennesseePaul

July 20th, 2010
12:47 pm

Thanks for the work CR

Josh Townsend

July 20th, 2010
12:47 pm

Gonna be a fun series, let’s get goin!

Gil In Mechanicsville

July 20th, 2010
12:47 pm

Note to Jonny Venters…. Deny everything…..

Brave4life-1995 all over again??

July 20th, 2010
12:47 pm

nvillebaron

sarcasm??? right

Brave4life-1995 all over again??

July 20th, 2010
12:49 pm

Happy this is a home game, Padres have dominated opponents at PETCO with there pitching. Not saying that there pitching is bad on the road but its not the same.

dawgiesbreggee

July 20th, 2010
12:50 pm

Gil – is that a line from the hilarious Matt Damon flick “Stuck on You”

David O'Brien

July 20th, 2010
12:50 pm

The other thing I don’t get about the suspensions, the thing that seems unfair in addition to the mere fact that Venters was suspended and next-day’s pitcher Riske wasn’t even tossed after a post-warning HBP, is why was Venters suspended four games? That’s overly severe, considering most starting pitchers are usually suspended five days, meaning only one start. His suspension, even if reduced, could cost two or three potential appearances, huge in a series like this one, or any other one that he might have to miss if suspension’s pushed back by appeal….

TennPaul, dawgiesbreggee, anyone else who’s seen The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo: Have any of you seen the second part of the trilogy yet, The Girl Who Played With Fire? That started last week here in Atlanta, we’re going to see it next. Heard it was really good, but not great like the first one….

Felix Millan: No, that guy’s not working for AJC anymore. As was noted yesterday, after covering All-Star game he moved on and sold use of his moniker and unfortunate likeness to AJC, so they wouldn’t have to change the banner thing on the blog.

brian

July 20th, 2010
12:50 pm

is there any reason that the Braves would not appeal the suspension? Carroll laid out great reasons to appeal. Getting the games appropriately knocked down is a great place to start. At least have venters available until EOF is off the DL and we are playing a lesser opponent

TennesseePaul

July 20th, 2010
12:51 pm

DOB: I have not. I’m not sure I’ll see it here in Raleigh until it is on DVD. I hope sooner, but, well we aren’t in La-La land anymore.

TennesseePaul

July 20th, 2010
12:51 pm

dowgiesbreggee: Cool, would you provide the source? I’d love to read it.

Chip Shot

July 20th, 2010
12:51 pm

Freeman will be here in september along with Minor, mark it down.

bravesfanlm

July 20th, 2010
12:53 pm

I might be wrong, but I think that Nate Mclouth will bounce back in the second half. Here is why I think this.

G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
162 516 91 130 33 3 19 64 57 103 21 3 .253 .338 .439 .777

These are Nate Mclouth’s career averages when getting a full season’s worth of at-bats.

Brave4life-1995 all over again??

July 20th, 2010
12:54 pm

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2010_07_20_sdnmlb_atlmlb_1&mode=preview

MLB is stupid, if you read the article its writes

Jair Jurrjens. The right-hander, who underwent Tommy John surgery in 2009, was roughed up by the Padres in a 17-2 loss April 12. He surrendered eight runs over 3 1/3 frames in just his second start since returning from the surgery.

First off, JJ did not have Tommy John, and i had to correct the spelling for “surgury”

Braves shortstop Alex Gonzalez did not record a hit for the first time since be acquired from the Blue Jays over the All-Star break.

“being”

ALinRIC

July 20th, 2010
12:54 pm

great pts. by Carroll in re: Venters and appeal process.

dawgiesbreggee

July 20th, 2010
12:54 pm

Girl Who Played with Fire – nope, I live in hell now so they should get the movie in about 10 years

TennesseePaul

July 20th, 2010
12:54 pm

Just looked it up to see… not even close to this area.

However, were I still in the LBC I’d have about 10 theaters to choose from… yeah there are somethings I miss.

turkeycaller

July 20th, 2010
12:54 pm

Don’t need Larry Jones.

RC

July 20th, 2010
12:55 pm

Braves magic number is at 64!

(too soon?)

chuckw/deadjournalist.com

July 20th, 2010
12:55 pm

since you mention the guys at AAA: there are a handful of position players having solid seasons; thoughts on who might be sept. call-ups? looks as though the biggest problem is that none of them are on the 40-man roster. also, someone like mitch jones might be more appealing than freeman due to the above stated arb-clock.

Brave4life-1995 all over again??

July 20th, 2010
12:56 pm

DOB

Does Venters have to serve his suspension now????

Carroll Rogers

July 20th, 2010
12:56 pm

I’m with you Brian. Only reason I could see why you wouldn’t appeal is you want to get the suspension overwith with key games coming down the line. I don’t see that as the case here.

ALinRIC

July 20th, 2010
12:56 pm

wish Swedish journalist/novelist Stieg Larssen could’ve lived to see the success of his “Girl Who” books/movies. dude passed at only 50 six years ago.

Brave4life-1995 all over again??

July 20th, 2010
12:57 pm

DOB

Now, as in starting today

Carroll Rogers

July 20th, 2010
12:57 pm

no Braves4life, he doesn’t. he can appeal, and he can play while waiting for his appeal to be heard and a decision to be made.

bali

July 20th, 2010
12:57 pm

great info thanks

Chop Chop

July 20th, 2010
12:58 pm

I’m glad Venters will get a few days off. He’s a rookie reliever who has pitched in 40 games total (two in Gwinnett) so far. Four games is harsh, but if a Jonny Venters suspension is going to be the difference in the Braves’ season, then I think the margin of error got just a little too thin at the end.

BusterPoseyFan

July 20th, 2010
12:58 pm

How long until you have to say Brian McCann is the second best catcher in the national league?

Steve

July 20th, 2010
12:58 pm

Nice blog Carroll! Nice to see the Mets and Phillies lose last night on an off day. I am thinking we take two of three from the Padres! Cox and Venters being suspended was a joke! Venters MUST appeal I would think.

Gil In Mechanicsville

July 20th, 2010
12:58 pm

dowgiesbreggee Actually it comes for the first scene of a movie that is likely before your time.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061736/ (A Guide for the Married Man)

TennesseePaul Happy Birthday dude… Carolina Lady and the gang send their regards.

dawgiesbreggee

July 20th, 2010
12:58 pm

TN Brian – have a cousin who is in the FO at a mlb team and he is connected to someone at Braves (very closely)

David O'Brien

July 20th, 2010
12:59 pm

Braves4life: No, not if he appeals. As Carroll said, he’s expected to appeal (I can’t see any reason he wouldn’t, since he’s fresh right now after All-Star break, and this is a tough series, etc.)

Brave4life-1995 all over again??

July 20th, 2010
12:59 pm

I would have sent Jesse Chavez or Kenshin Kawakami to hit Prince fielder if i knew this was going to happen. Venters is a vital part of that bullpen.

Gil In Mechanicsville

July 20th, 2010
1:00 pm

Carroll Vacation at Holden Beach again this year?

dawgiesbreggee

July 20th, 2010
1:00 pm

Gil – I have actually seen that movie

Brave4life-1995 all over again??

July 20th, 2010
1:01 pm

DOB

Thanks, and agreed this series is going to be tough.arguably 2 of the best teams in the NL square off.

Randy S

July 20th, 2010
1:01 pm

How long does the appeals process typically take? Can they stretch it out for another week until EOF is eligible to come off the DL?

Milt Famey

July 20th, 2010
1:02 pm

I agree with you on Minor. I think he’s untouchable, even for another J D drew. I’m still burning over trading Wainwright even though Drew helped us for a short period.

Brave4life-1995 all over again??

July 20th, 2010
1:03 pm

BusterPoseyfan

let snot get ahead of ourselves here, McCann has dominated the world of catching “offensively” the past 5 years. Posey is just a rookie wait till they get the scouting reports on the kid.

Teresa

July 20th, 2010
1:03 pm

haven’t seen either of the movies, but just finished reading the trilogy…READ THE BOOKS FIRST BOYS AND GIRLS….AMAZING!!

Go Braves!

Roman Gal

July 20th, 2010
1:03 pm

…but hey some folks were cursing the Justice trade today , so maybe not nolie

Hey, there was no cursing involved!

Brave4life-1995 all over again??

July 20th, 2010
1:03 pm

Over the past nine games, the Padres have tallied seven games with double-digit hits. San Diego is hitting at a .324 clip over the stretch, including 14 hits in Sunday’s contest.

-MLB .com

Willy Wally

July 20th, 2010
1:04 pm

Never too soon for magic numbers, unless you don’t believe.

RC

July 20th, 2010
1:05 pm

How long until you have to say Brian McCann is the second best catcher in the national league?

How long until Joe Mauer is traded to the National League?

SoWeGa Fanatic

July 20th, 2010
1:06 pm

Wait a minute. I thought DOB got all the vacation.

JJ

July 20th, 2010
1:06 pm

From ESPN RUMOR CENTRAL –

At least one of us here at Rumor Central has been told by New York Mets officials that Angel Pagan is a player that will always win over a coach, manager, teammate, or even fans and media, both by the way he handles himself and his play on the field. Such has occurred with skipper Jerry Manuel, as the platoon in right field is considered history.

The numbers say it all in this case, however, as Pagan beats Jeff Francoeur in every statistical category that matters, including on-base percentage, defensive range and versatility. Despite playing his home games at Citi Field, Pagan’s performance is that of an everyday player.

Manuel hasn’t ruled out the idea of Francoeur earning more time, however, saying “Frenchy is like a relief pitcher right now trying to get back into the starting rotation.” But for now, he’s an expensive reserve, and we have to wonder if he might be a candidate to be non-tendered this winter.

- Jason A. Churchill

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Frenchy being non-tendered? Wow…the fall from grace is hard indeed.

RC

July 20th, 2010
1:07 pm

Speaking of movies, I finally got a chance to see ‘Inception’ last night. Just a fantastic movie in every aspect. Anyone who has the time should get out to see it as soon as you can.

Roman Gal

July 20th, 2010
1:07 pm

How long until you have to say Brian McCann is the second best catcher in the national league?

8 or 10 years. That is, unless Riaan Spanjer-Furstenburg becomes a catcher…

adam

July 20th, 2010
1:08 pm

Dave, would you make a trade or leave the team the way it is because of the chemistry?

Gil In Mechanicsville

July 20th, 2010
1:09 pm

An observation about Minor’s value. he is the type of player you put in a package for a player like Carl Crawford. He is not someone you include for a Josh Willingham or a Cody Ross.

Posey is a good looking young hitter but let’s allow the rest of the league to put the book out on the guy. A lot of young players tear it up on their initial trip through the circuit but it does not take long for major league pitchers to learn how to get them out.

ALinRIC

July 20th, 2010
1:09 pm

Braves4life : Padres also have lost 3 of their last 5 series, including their last two away series. They’re ripe for the pickin’.

Brave4life-1995 all over again??

July 20th, 2010
1:10 pm

MLB articles need to be You learn all sorts of things reading these stories, now don’t you! I guess that Alex’s start is indeed worthy of note … in 4 games he’s 3 for 13 (.231) with 2 walks, three strikeouts, a double an no RBI. This writer is a shill … somebody’s relative … Bobby, Ftank or John, methinks! Don’t guess Yunel’s three games with the Jays are worthy of note …he’s 6 for 13 (.462) with one walk, no strikeouts, a homerun and 5 rbi! A standing ovation … he’s not wearing any clothes, the llittle boy said of the emperor … that’s baseball.edited

TennesseePaul

July 20th, 2010
1:10 pm

Gil: Thanks man. I appreciate it. I’ll “drop by” later this evening to say hello to CL et al.

Snotboogie

July 20th, 2010
1:11 pm

Wonder if Anders reads that piece and still thinks the Frenchie trade was good for them.Only difference is that we might have non-tendered him at the end of last year and saved 5 Million. He teased them with enough in the second half last year to earn that. But now it might be tough.

Brave4life-1995 all over again??

July 20th, 2010
1:12 pm

ALinRIC

I understand, but the Braves look foolish against lefties. They either kill them or look helpless at the plate.

TennesseePaul

July 20th, 2010
1:12 pm

How long until you have to say Brian McCann is the second best catcher in the national league?

When does Bryce Harper come up?

Willy Wally

July 20th, 2010
1:12 pm

TN Brian – have a cousin who is in the FO at a mlb team and he is connected to someone at Braves (very closely)

So, basically what you’re saying is that we have an unethical, incompetent idiot who needs to be fired in the Braves front office, and who is conducting himself in a manner much more damaging to the franchise than Yunel Escobar was ever capable of?

‘Cause if what you are saying is that someone in the front office is freely telling club secrets all around town, then that person is hurting the Braves big time by devaluing the labor assets we have, thus making it hard for them to get fair market value for that player in a trade. Is that what you are saying? And what is the benefit of doing this? Is your cousin in this supposed MLB FO also acting like an unethical clown and telling his franchise secrets over cocktails in exchange for our franchise skeletons? So, basically, your cousin and this unethical Braves employee are both committing treason against their respective franchises, something Yunel never did, is this what you’re saying?

Nova Scotia Steve

July 20th, 2010
1:13 pm

Seriously upset with the suspension BS.

It’s absolute horse-s*it. Then after a warning on Sunday Heyward and Glaus get beaned in the finale with no injections? Handled very poorly by the umpiring team officiating that series.

That was a bean ball series – intentional or not. Do you think guys are going to come out and say “Yeah we wanted to plant one right between the numbers on Fielder” Not a chance. There’s you suspension right there if they did.

You know maybe it was all rainbows and unicorns and the Braves weren’t trying to hit Fielder. The fact is the first laser beam sailed over his head – the next one in his back an inning after a he hits a HR. I would have ejected the guy too. But what followed the next day was handled poorly by the umpires.

Especially with the way the Brewers reacted in the media following the game. Sunday’s game should be reviewed by MLB as well. But we’re hurt more by this suspension cause we’re in a pennant race and Venters is solid.

I hope he did try to bean Fielder. It makes me like him even more – if so.

Nova Scotia Steve

July 20th, 2010
1:15 pm

* check that*

Glaus was the only one beaned after the warning – but even still.

Gil In Mechanicsville

July 20th, 2010
1:15 pm

Brave4life-1995 all over again?? Like the man said, “Consistent adequacy often out performs occasional excellence”

Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson

July 20th, 2010
1:16 pm

Something’s Burning, Baby _ Bob Dylan

Something is burning, baby, are you aware?
Something is the matter, baby, there’s smoke in your hair
Are you still my friend, baby, show me a sign
Is the love in your heart for me turning blind?

You’ve been avoiding the main streets for a long, long while
The truth that I’m seeking is in your missing file
What’s your position, baby, what’s going on?
Why is the light in your eyes nearly gone?

I know everything about this place, or so it seems
Am I no longer a part of your plans or your dreams?
Well, it is so obvious that something has changed
What’s happening, baby, to make you act so strange?

Something is burning, baby, here’s what I say
Even the bloodhounds of London couldn’t find you today
I see the shadow of a man, baby, makin’ you blue
Who is he, baby, and what’s he to you?

We’ve reached the edge of the road, baby, where the pasture begins
Where charity is supposed to cover up a multitude of sins
But where do you live, baby, and where is the light?
Why are your eyes just staring off in the night?

I can feel it in the night when I think of you
I can feel it in the light and it’s got to be true
You can’t live by bread alone, you won’t be satisfied
You can’t roll away the stone if your hands are tied

Got to start someplace, baby, can you explain?
Please don’t fade away on me, baby, like the midnight train
Answer me, baby, a casual look will do
Just what in the world has come over you?

I can feel it in the wind and it’s upside down
I can feel it in the dust as I get off the bus on the outskirts of town
I’ve had the Mexico City blues since the last hairpin curve
I don’t wanna see you bleed, I know what you need but it ain’t what you deserve

Something is burning, baby, something’s in flames
There’s a man going ’round calling names
Ring down when you’re ready, baby, I’m waiting for you
I believe in the impossible, you know that I do

The blog needs some song lyrics……………

brian

July 20th, 2010
1:16 pm

Gil – I have not seen anyone available that I would trade Minor or one of the big 3 at high A for. Minor is a lefty starter whose ceiling is rising. The Braves have already invested the signing bonus and he is looking like he will be ready for the majors next year.

Brave4life-1995 all over again??

July 20th, 2010
1:16 pm

Gil In Mechanicsville

well said

TennesseePaul

July 20th, 2010
1:17 pm

dawgiesbreggee: TN Brian – have a cousin who is in the FO at a mlb team and he is connected to someone at Braves (very closely)

just for clarity… was this intended as a response to my request or did TNBrian have another question I missed?

Snotboogie

July 20th, 2010
1:17 pm

NSS

The Brewers will pay for it next season dude. Even if the manager isnt around and Glaus isnt around, the others will remember. If nothing else I trust Hanson, Venters and co to do something about it.

Brave4life-1995 all over again??

July 20th, 2010
1:17 pm

Peace out peeps, ttyl at game time

Jay Dubu

July 20th, 2010
1:17 pm

Don’t discount the Pads hitters…remember, they hung 17 runs on the Braves earlier this season.

bravesgrl4lifeeeeeeeee

July 20th, 2010
1:18 pm

McFann, from the last blog:

Yeah…and remember, Joe West and Angel Hernandez were both umps in that series–I’m of the firm belief that they have it in for the Braves…

I do know that. We just happened to draw them back-to-back Friday and Saturday. I knew Saturday night when I saw that Angel H was the HP ump, that it was not going to be pretty.

DOB or CR, regarding the suspensions: Am I wrong in saying that the Braves aren’t known for intentionally hitting batters anytime. I mean, I know Tommy Hanson has hit a record number of batters this year, but none of that was intentional. I can’t think of the last time I saw (despite the call for it from a lot of bloggers) a Braves pitcher retaliate for one of their guys getting hit.

ALinRIC

July 20th, 2010
1:18 pm

Gil – I don’t think you trade Minor for a rental outfielder who will likely demand significant coinage in the offseason (I’ve read upwards of $17mil. projected). Stinks too much of the Teixiera deal and Minor’s the best LH pitching prospect we’ve got.

rammerjammer

July 20th, 2010
1:19 pm

Not now, but in the offseason look for the Braves to clear a rotation spot for Minor.

Of course they’ll try first to trade Lowe. Failing that, I think they’d listen to offers for Jurrjens. He’d bring us the best OF return and we lose him after 2013, anyway.

Efrim

July 20th, 2010
1:19 pm

Frenchy being non-tendered? Wow…the fall from grace is hard indeed.

If he isn’t non-tendered, then we know for certain that the New York Mets don’t value statistics in any way, shape or form.

Wayne in Utah

July 20th, 2010
1:21 pm

WW

Welcome to the real world. Shyt happens. People talk. Rumors get leaked, sometimes on purpose, sometimes not.

It’s the old smoke/fire deal.

Don’t tell me you’re naive enough to think that FW dealt Yunel because he wanted the extra power that AG gives over the extra years and range of YE?

This sort of talk goes on in many businesses. Do you think other clubs were oblivious to YE’s pre-madonna attitude??? The Jays knew exactly what they were getting, FO talk or not.

NSS

Yes, I was a big Venters fan before; now he is risen to the highest of plateau’s for me!

:lol:

ED

July 20th, 2010
1:21 pm

any idea that the braves will go after chris young cf from dbacks as well as the other candidates on the list that mark bowman reported yesterday

Bruce Mac

July 20th, 2010
1:21 pm

Has Venters suspension been appealed yet? If not, when will we know? Without Venters Braves are in trouble in this series I am afraid. No left hand heat and Dunn is wild half the time.

dawgiesbreggee

July 20th, 2010
1:21 pm

no willywally – what I was saying was that IT WAS WELL KNOWN in mlb circles about the problems we had with Yunie………. much like the way everyone inside mlb knew about Gagne juicing during his record saves stretch yet the news never was “made public”……….. ok

CSpin

July 20th, 2010
1:21 pm

How does Bobby’s suspension work exactly? I know he knows what to do with this being his 150-whatever time, but can he even come to the ballpark? Sit in his hotel room? Flirt w/ some ladies at the senior center? What?

cabravesfan

July 20th, 2010
1:22 pm

rammerjammer -

So you would be willing to trade one of our best young pitchers because we might lose him in 3 years???

TennesseePaul

July 20th, 2010
1:22 pm

Seriously upset with the suspension BS

I’m not that bummed about this. It’s part of the game. I tend to believe the Braves side of the story more than the MLB office or Brewers but I do wonder this: If it was intentional by the Braves, would they admit it to the media?

And at any rate, I think the team has hit more Brewers in the last year than any other team single team… it doesn’t look good (regardless of intent). But at the same time I get a kick out of it. Was talking to my Dodger friend out in LA about this. He was telling me “the Braves better sweep the Padres”. I told him they’d try but Cox and Venters were suspended for throwing at Prince Fielder. He replied: “What’s wrong with throwing at Fielder?” To which all I could say was, “I think they did it too much. It was like three times this weekend and they crippled Braun earlier this year.”

Efrim

July 20th, 2010
1:23 pm

When does Bryce Harper come up?

I don’t know, that Buster Posey kid is pretty good…..

joedirt

July 20th, 2010
1:23 pm

dob when do the lineups get posted? wondering where mclouth will hit in the order today

Snotboogie

July 20th, 2010
1:23 pm

bravesgrl4lifeeeeeeeee

I dont think intentional beanballs are necessarily non-existent in the Braves philosophy. It might be an individual thing too – not necessarily a message sent from Bobby. (In this case, it looks like it was neither, though.)
I remember back in spring training 2009, Hanson’s first start. Oswalt hit Esco and Hanson hit Tejada. Looked intentional because Hanson was fizzing unhittable fastballs right until then and also the SS correlation. Showed two mean fastballs to Tejada and the proceeded to plonk him on the thigh/hip.Got some kudos for doing that even if he wasnt told to – in his first start no less.

dawgiesbreggee

July 20th, 2010
1:23 pm

TN Paul = sorry I meant to respond to you, my apologies, just read the TN part and I am in the middle of programming a website whilst I stalk this bloggage…. “me gets confused sometimes”

Snotboogie

July 20th, 2010
1:24 pm

wondering where mclouth will hit in the order today

8th no doubt until he proves he can do anything with the bat. But today we are facing a lefty – so might not be in the lineup either.

TennesseePaul

July 20th, 2010
1:25 pm

dawgiesbreggee: No worries.

Gil In Mechanicsville

July 20th, 2010
1:26 pm

ALinRIC Not saying they would for a rental, just saying the caliber of player you would consider.

Carroll Rogers

July 20th, 2010
1:26 pm

clubhouse opens at 3:40 joedirt, that’s usually when i can get the lineup. think you can make it until then?!

The Dude

July 20th, 2010
1:26 pm

Batting average isn’t the tale of the tape when it comes to offensive production. Compare the Padres’ OBP and slugging to the Braves for a more accurate representation of the teams’ abilities to score runs.

Carroll Rogers

July 20th, 2010
1:28 pm

.587, for you, sounds like I’d better call it the Daily DOB….

joedirt

July 20th, 2010
1:29 pm

yes carrol thank you

Bartholomew (Bat) Masterson

July 20th, 2010
1:30 pm

How long until you have to say Brian McCann is the second best catcher in the national league?

When does Bryce Harper come up? _ TennesseePaul

I’m pretty sure they moved Harper to the outfield.

TennesseePaul

July 20th, 2010
1:32 pm

I’m pretty sure they moved Harper to the outfield.

I didn’t even realize he had already signed…

.587

July 20th, 2010
1:35 pm

Carroll Rogers –

Haaa! Lubs me some Carroll! :D

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