Venters suspended four games, Cox one, for hitting Fielder
Braves rookie reliever Jonny Venters was suspended for four games and fined an undisclosed amount Monday for what Major League Baseball characterized as “throwing at” the Brewers’ Prince Fielder Saturday.
Braves manager Bobby Cox was also suspended for one game.
The announcement was made by Bob Watson, MLB’s vice president of on-field operations. His statement said Venters was being suspended “for throwing two consecutive pitches at Prince Fielder” and Cox for “the intentional actions of Venters after a warning had been issued to the pitcher following the first intentional pitch thrown at Fielder.”
Venters and Cox were both ejected from Saturday’s game after Venters’ first pitch of the eighth inning sailed near Fielder’s head and the one to follow hit him in the back.
Venters had been warned after the first pitch, a slider. After his ensuing pitch hit Fielder between the shoulder blades, the ejections were automatic.
Both Venters and Cox denied that there was any intention behind the pitches, even though Cox acknowledged how it might have looked.
Fielder had hit a game-tying home run in his previous at-bat in the seventh inning Saturday night. And this was after Fielder was also hit by a Tommy Hanson pitch on Friday following a two-run home run by Ryan Braun.
“We didn’t hit Fielder [intentionally] (Friday) night at all,” Cox said after Saturday’s game. “And we didn’t hit him (Saturday) intentionally, at all. And that is the truth.”
Venters said Saturday they were “just a couple of pitches that got away from me,” the first one a breaking ball, the second, a sinking fastball.
Cox spoke with Brewers manager Ken Macha on the field before Sunday’s series finale, but the Brewers’ manager still asked MLB to review it.
Braves general manager Frank Wren indicated Monday he would reserve comment until he talked to everyone involved, which would likely happen Tuesday. The Braves were off on Monday.
There is no formal appeal process for managers so Cox is expected to serve his suspension Tuesday in the opener of a three-game series against the Padres. If the Braves choose to appeal Venters’ suspension, he wouldn’t begin serving his suspension until his appeal is heard.
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bruce
July 19th, 2010
4:33 pm
unreal
ArkyTech
July 19th, 2010
4:34 pm
What a joke.
Pedro
July 19th, 2010
4:34 pm
I was out of town and missed these games. Did Fielder walk to first on his homer? What was the so called motivation for an “intentional” HBP?
Fire Frank Wren
July 19th, 2010
4:36 pm
When does Macha start his suspensions for Sunday’s hit batsmen?
What about the other guy...
July 19th, 2010
4:36 pm
So we get a 4 day suspension, and their pitcher who hit Glaus Sunday after both sides were warned didn’t even get ejected?!?!?!?
CO_Braves
July 19th, 2010
4:36 pm
Wow! Talk about a double standard. We hit one guy on Saturday and 2 guys get ejected, they hit 2 guys yesterday and not even a warning. Ridiculous
Najeh Davenpoop
July 19th, 2010
4:36 pm
In related news, AJC Braves beat writer David O’Brien is suspended all the time and was suspended most of Spring Training. Needing time to pay bills in person the old fashioned way and do laundry, O’Brien was on vacation again and could not be reached for comment.
willie g really hates bill shanks
July 19th, 2010
4:38 pm
they do not want the braves to win
dave
July 19th, 2010
4:38 pm
Fielder swings hard and off-balance, but I thought he got right into his home-run trot without showing-up anyone. I still can’t figure out why we plunked him, or why there was no ejection Sunday when Glaus was hit. Four games for a reliever is a big suspension.
coachx
July 19th, 2010
4:39 pm
Fielder did his usual dramatic one handed golf swing and “posed” with a 10 second follow through as the ball went over the fence.
This is baseball right ?
crybabies
July 19th, 2010
4:40 pm
I’m with Mr Wren’s oddly named cousin above. Macha makes I big baby deal out of the Fielder HBP, but when his guys turn around and hit two Braves, did he ask MLB to investigate himself? Oh, but Bobby Cox made a big deal out of it in the press…Cox didn’t? Oh, is that because he has class? Must suck being a lousy team with a crappy owner; but that crappy owner can get you some lovin’ when you file complaints against other team, can’t he Bud S.
oydave
July 19th, 2010
4:40 pm
I hope that someday people with some sense occupy the offices of MLB. The IQ of the present regime would have to quadruple to become infinitesimal.
DeepDiver
July 19th, 2010
4:40 pm
fizzy first.
JW
July 19th, 2010
4:41 pm
The pussification of the game continues. 4 games? Unreal, it’s not like Venters went headhunting. Watson’s a hypocrite, this type of stuff was standard in his day. I know he has to toe the company line now, but 4 games is excessive. Should be a one game suspension, tops.
DeepDiver
July 19th, 2010
4:41 pm
almost. some brewers better get suspended behind this.
Mr. Pappagiorgio
July 19th, 2010
4:41 pm
It wasn’t done intentionally by Venters…..If I am going to intentionally hit someone, it’s not going to be with a breaking ball..which was the pitch Venters hit Fielder with. Go back and look at every “intentional” hit batter in the past 50 years, guarantee you none of them were hit with breaking balls.
Chip4Prez
July 19th, 2010
4:41 pm
Fielder is a hot head. That’s not how Atlanta plays baseball. Anyone and everyone who follows baseball knows this. This was a poor decision by MLB. Hopefully Venters appeals and gets the suspension knocked down to a couple games. What blasphemy…
Wat Wat Wat
July 19th, 2010
4:41 pm
I think the brewer’s pitcher will see some time off as well. The braves won’t sit down and take it.
glove51
July 19th, 2010
4:42 pm
What a load of …
The Cyncial White Boy
July 19th, 2010
4:44 pm
“We didn’t hit him intentionally” – Bobby Cox
“I’m just holding her panties and taking her home” – Damon Evans
“I did not have s#x with that woman” – Bill Clinton
“I was hiking on the Appalachian Trail” – Gov. Mark Sanford
“I left the club before the incident” – Mick Vick
“I’m retiring” – Urban Meyer
“I’m your coach for the long haul” – Bobby “Pig-Sooey” Patrino
….And the beat goes on and on….
@ReanuKeeves
July 19th, 2010
4:44 pm
110% worth it to send a msg to Fielder’s fat a-s and to the rest of the league. Kudos to Johnny Venters, this is what you call a real baseball move. Just b/c a few whiney babies in NYC get their Playtex in a wad over it doesn’t mean it wasn’t the right thing to do.
GO BRAVES!!!
Skeezix
July 19th, 2010
4:45 pm
I can’t believe this—dumb, dumb, dumb. I hope the Braves appeal.
Jon
July 19th, 2010
4:46 pm
Wow what a bunch of stinking homers on here! It was absolutely the right decision. And for those moaning like little girls about why the Brewers didn’t face discipline after hitting our guys, try for once to OBJECTIVELY look at the situations in which the respective infractions took place.
ole smoky
July 19th, 2010
4:46 pm
What a crock !
AZBravoFan
July 19th, 2010
4:47 pm
Wow, that’s ridiculous! They really should appeal this one. If for no other reason than to have JV available for the SD series. Those games will all likely come down to pitching, and right now the more of Venters and the less of Saito the better.
j
July 19th, 2010
4:47 pm
This is BS! MLB, Brewers and Fielder = Jerkoffs
Jo-Bu
July 19th, 2010
4:47 pm
How’s that for send-off from Ken Macha to Bobby Cox for his retirement?
Gees, even after Bobby went over and spoke to him before the game on Sunday. Macha must really envy Bobby.
JMar
July 19th, 2010
4:48 pm
At the very least, I assume they’ll appeal until O’Flaherty is back with the team so that they don’t lose the lefty.
RHR
July 19th, 2010
4:49 pm
Ridiculous.
Joey
July 19th, 2010
4:49 pm
If Venters woulda just hit Fielder in his humongous butt, he wouldn’t even have noticed . . .
Has there ever been a fatter professional “athlete” in sports than Prince Fielder?
dave
July 19th, 2010
4:49 pm
Despite what I’ve heard on air and read here, it wasn’t a breaking pitch that nailed Fielder’s back. It was a fastball with movement
Still, it’s baseball. They tagged Heyward and Glaus. Should have been the end of it.
Wat Wat Wat
July 19th, 2010
4:50 pm
Fielder didn’t show off too much. Lord knows he can. I really don’t think hitting him was intentional, but it looks pretty bad.
Apparently no warning was filed against the brewers’ pitcher last night. I’m more concerned about how Angel Hernandez walked fielder down the line. I would think that to be professionally unacceptable, but what do i know.
Chris Chambliss
July 19th, 2010
4:50 pm
So, old Bob “Backup” Watson, former Braves sticks it to his old team. What do you expect from a guy who wears longjohns in August because he swears it will keep him cool? Pfft.
Jon
July 19th, 2010
4:50 pm
@ j – glad i could rile you up. job done.
Bruce Mac
July 19th, 2010
4:51 pm
” I am smart and rich and get plenty of women” – The Cynical White Boy.
Joey
July 19th, 2010
4:51 pm
Jon, stop crowing like a stinking little queen. And I’m being OBJECTIVE. . .
All I'm Saying Is...
July 19th, 2010
4:51 pm
Much ado about nothing.
Truth be told: Braves saw Prince as prancing after his poke and thought they needed to pop him one. Venters missed with his first attempt and then had to go after him again. So in return Brew Crew popped Glaus. Yawn.
Braves should appeal and put off suspensions until we play a lousy team and/or Venters needs the rest.
To “The Cyncial White Boy”–Your post was funny! [But I think you meant to refer to yourself as The Cynical White Boy]
LET’S GO BRAVES!
I'm Joey
July 19th, 2010
4:52 pm
WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Alan 10
July 19th, 2010
4:53 pm
This is Bull$*%&, baseball couldn’t possibily have the Braves start another string of titles, not J. Venters attitude nor Bobby’s. I hope Mr. Macha is proud, he sure isn’t a manager.
tempe zac
July 19th, 2010
4:53 pm
Does anyone really believe Fielder made an effort to avoid the pitch? If you keep a hitter honest he will hit the deck
Fielder for Nutrisystem
July 19th, 2010
4:53 pm
The MLB must be going senile. No, really, get your eyes checked and then explain to me how Venters was supposed to pitch around that blimp.
dawglasville
July 19th, 2010
4:53 pm
I guess the league believes that Bobby suddenly changed his stripes and now he is Dick Williams. What a joke. Fielder can rest his injury in October.
dave
July 19th, 2010
4:53 pm
Joey: yes. Cecil
The Braves made Milwaukee feel like a legit threat by darting Fielder (and by getting our butts kicked for two days). Don’t even swat at a gnat if it doesn’t bother you….
Pinch Hitter
July 19th, 2010
4:55 pm
David, how close is Bobby to the career ejection record now?
Joey
July 19th, 2010
4:55 pm
Nice comeback, sissy.
GTSteve
July 19th, 2010
4:55 pm
Mr. Pappagiorgio
July 19th, 2010
4:41 pm
Glavine had to hit Dale Murphy one time, and everybody knew it was coming, and he threw a curve ball
mark
July 19th, 2010
4:56 pm
The plunking goes back to the walk off fat boy fielder hit against the good guys last year….the one where he threw the pretend hand grenade as he crossed home plate and his teammates all fell out…….he’s a big baby – ask his daddy
dave
July 19th, 2010
4:56 pm
@Wat : a warning was issued to both benches Sunday after J-Hey was nicked. The announcers correctly objected that it was unnecessary and an over-reaction. So how does Glaus get nailed with impunity?
dave
July 19th, 2010
4:57 pm
Cox holds the career ejection record by a wide margin
mets_suck
July 19th, 2010
4:58 pm
“Jon”
Just so you know Venters hit Fielder down three and w/ a least one guy on base. The situation was very similar when Glaus got plunked. brewers Selig ol team this is garbage. By the way any baseball fan will tell you this is probably the WORST blue crewin baseball. West and Fallen Angel ought to be fired. Screw Selig and Watson.
Brave4life-1995 all over again??
July 19th, 2010
4:59 pm
stupid
USMC DAWG
July 19th, 2010
5:00 pm
Johnny should have just hit Prince in the ass. There’s his excuse right there, “He’s so friggin’ fat, how can you not hit it?”
bravos fan
July 19th, 2010
5:00 pm
i agree, j… jon sucks. no one cares about what you have to say. shut up.
this is ridiculous. prince gets hit and venters gets thrown out. then prince slides into center field going after gonzalez with his spikes up in the air and the umpires do nothing?!?!?!?!?! then on sunday there’s a warning on a pitch that hardly hit heyward. then glaus is hit a few batters later and… nothing. makes no sense. umpires need to be consistent, and if they can’t do that then send them back to the minors. what do the mlb officials have to say about that?
and macha is a cry baby. go manage your crappy team, take 4th place in the 2nd worst division in the majors, and shut up. you’ll probably be out of a job after this season anyway.
tckr83
July 19th, 2010
5:01 pm
Hmmm… who did Bud Selig used to own???
Even if Venters DID intentionally hit him, the players can handle it on the field… and the Brewers did sunday by hitting a few Braves (with no ejections, suspensions). As someone earlier on here said, if you’re going to hit somebody… throw your hardest pitch, not a breaking ball such as Venters did. And you do it on the 1st pitch, which didn’t happen here. I think Don Sutton said the other night that Venters was not even really aware that he had been warned in the first place.
Angel Hernandez has had his run-ins with the Braves in the past and it was kinda par for the course for him umpiring a Braves game… short fuse. Also weird that Hernandez hugged Fielder all the way down to 1st base after it took place. I’ve never seen an umpire do that before.
GStateBen
July 19th, 2010
5:02 pm
Venters hit Prince because he held the bat and ran up the line with it, flicking it towards the Braves dug out. That makes baseball players furious. It wasn’t the swing, watch the replay again, it was how we carried the bat then flipped it towards the dugout.
If MLB let the players take care of this themselves, there wouldn’t be any suspensions needed. Is Prince really going to charge the mound? Highly doubtful.
Macha Will Need a Job in 2011
July 19th, 2010
5:02 pm
Screw Ken Macha! He needs to get off Bob Watson’s jock! Maybe’s he’s kissing up since he will need a job once he gets canned by the Brewers. Ken, enjoy watching the Braves on TV in October!
Macha Will Need a Job in 2011
July 19th, 2010
5:03 pm
It would take Prince Fielder 20 seconds to get to the mound if he charged the pitcher.
Supes
July 19th, 2010
5:04 pm
BS…Macha and the moron reliever who hit TROY GLAUS on sunday should GET THE SAME TREATMENT then!
But no….Cry baby PRISTINE FIELDER waaaahhhaaa they’re THROWING at me…waahhhaaaa Fat Lazy A** who nobody is going to want b/c of his attitude. Combine that with Scott Boras…I pity the team that ponies up the cash for that loser in the off-season when he becomes a FA.
tckr83
July 19th, 2010
5:04 pm
And Fielder would hardly be in fighting shape by the time he actually reached the mound…
mets_suck
July 19th, 2010
5:04 pm
for all the non-issue guys the events would have been a non-issue had venters not got suspended. But he did, futhermore The umps were inconsistant. Therefore it is an issue. Ask Joe Madden anout umping and he’l tell the MLB sucks in this area now. Tthis is a ISSUE
Pinch Hitter
July 19th, 2010
5:04 pm
dave, appears you’re correct. Did some googling and Cox is ahead of (gasp!) Earl Weaver, and Bobby is closing in on 162… a full season’s worth!
broncs
July 19th, 2010
5:04 pm
On the bright side I’ve been concerned Cox was using Venters too much. At least this gives him a rest so he doesn’t cause arm surgery like I personally feel he did to Moylan.
Breaking News!!!
July 19th, 2010
5:04 pm
The Sausage Race will be discontinued until further notice in Milwaukee. Prince Fielder keeps trying to eat the sausages.
Peter
July 19th, 2010
5:04 pm
Wow as wild as Venters has been this year, I wonder how many more suspensions he will get.
Also if anyone saw the replay of the 9th inning run that the Giant’s didn’t get against the Met’s…then you will see how badly the umps have been this year !
To say in general they suck would be just fine…and the baseball commissioner making $19 Million dollars a year……and for WHAT ?
USMC DAWG
July 19th, 2010
5:05 pm
How appropriate that the Brewers get no ejections, or suspensions. Guess where the Selig family roots are?
Breaking News!!!
July 19th, 2010
5:05 pm
Angel Hernandez and CB Buckner are in bed together!
J Dub
July 19th, 2010
5:05 pm
This happens in baseball all the time. Have no problems with what the Braves did and have no problem with what the Brewers did Sunday. Don’t even has as much a problem with Bobby getting a game. What I do have a problem with is Venters getting 4. It seems a bit excessive. Did Pedro get 4 for faceplanting Don Zimmer? Not trying to be smart, just trying to remember what the suspensions were for that incident.
roja
July 19th, 2010
5:06 pm
If Venters had thrown a fastball at Princess, he woulda plunked him in the center of that massive forehead – not the center of his 400 pound back.
Captain Lou Albano
July 19th, 2010
5:07 pm
WOW! Do you guys remember when baseball players played baseball and didn’t cry? Should have hit Fielder alot more if this was going to happen.
bravos fan
July 19th, 2010
5:08 pm
that call was HORRIBLE for the giants. hurts the braves too, but i feel for the giants. that’s gonna be a great race towards the end of the year.
roja
July 19th, 2010
5:08 pm
If they had brought in KK to pitch to Fielder, he would have missed him every time and it would have only gone down in the scorebook as an intentional walk!
tckr83
July 19th, 2010
5:08 pm
Yea, I think a bigger question is… How has Bud Selig remained the commissioner of baseball for as long as he has? Considering everything that has gone on in MLB during his tenure. The man on camera, makes the MLB look incompetent. I can’t help but laugh and wonder how the guy is where he is…
Peter
July 19th, 2010
5:09 pm
Didn’t two Braves get hit on Sunday ? Glaus, and Heyward ?
Yes I just looked at the Box score…….. both guys hit on Sunday…..
So where is the Brewer suspensions ?
tckr83
July 19th, 2010
5:10 pm
Peter,
They better be in the mail to Milwaukee…
Chip4Prez
July 19th, 2010
5:11 pm
Next time we pluck someone, let’s bring in KK to do it…
Captain Lou Albano
July 19th, 2010
5:11 pm
The Braves should hire some Tennessee Football players to finish the job hah!
willie g really hates bill shanks
July 19th, 2010
5:11 pm
look davenpoop you are stupid
Andy
July 19th, 2010
5:12 pm
You guys are right about this being a joke, this was taken care of on the field. I think the reason for the suspension was the first pitch was around Princes head and the second pitch was the upper back. Had Venters missed behind Fielder (yeah right) and then hit him in the thigh, nothing would be happening.
GT
July 19th, 2010
5:13 pm
That big gut falling over the plate like the roof of the astrodorm, how you going to miss hitting something that fat and slow.
Andy
July 19th, 2010
5:13 pm
Didn’t two Braves get hit on Sunday ? Glaus, and Heyward ?
Yes I just looked at the Box score…….. both guys hit on Sunday…..
So where is the Brewer suspensions ?
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Location, location, location.
joseph mccombs
July 19th, 2010
5:15 pm
lets nickname fielder for what he is. captain goodyear, the blimp always full of hot air,
Terry Pendleton
July 19th, 2010
5:15 pm
Don’t worry guys, Chino and I got the Padres…
Supes
July 19th, 2010
5:16 pm
Pristine will get drilled right in the a&& next time these 2 teams meet…question is who will have the stones to do it.
schmeckdawg
July 19th, 2010
5:17 pm
To me it is real simple for the suspensions. One of the BIGGEST Brave hating umps was behind the plate Saturday night Angel “you suck” Hernandez. The other Brave hating ump The “Redneck Fatboy” Joe West was somewhere else making some other teams miserable.
MLB needs to take a look at these two clowns and their records when umpiring Braves games!!!!!!!!
AlternateReality
July 19th, 2010
5:17 pm
I’m surprised that the Braves didn’t hit more batters in this series. a lot of the Brewers seem to dive out over the plate, and any pitch that’s remotely inside has a chance of hitting them.
On a lighter note, it would have been fun to see Heyward charge the mound. We might see just how fast the pitcher could run…
tckr83
July 19th, 2010
5:18 pm
Location?
Glaus was hit in the ribs… what’s the difference? I’d rather get hit in the back myself…
skep
July 19th, 2010
5:18 pm
I really don’t think Venters hit Fielder on purpose. Anybody that has seen him pitch has seen wild pitches in the same spot. On a righty batter they are just to the backstop, but to a lefty they look like a knockdown. When is Bob Watson going to be replaced with someone with a little common sense.
TTOUGH44
July 19th, 2010
5:21 pm
Hey on the sports news Sunday evening, I saw the umpire give a warning to both teams, then, Glaus gets hit and nothing happened…what gives..and let me vent …..that was an obvious strike Hudson threw, that was called a ball b4 the big hit that did him in…and oh by the way,,,Cox should have pulled Hudson when it was 1st and 2nd anyhow….
turkeycaller
July 19th, 2010
5:21 pm
Russsell Beard hit Ronny Pritchett with a curveball with one on and two out and Watson did nothing.
bigstack19
July 19th, 2010
5:21 pm
You have got to be F-N kidding me! Baseball is a joke and Bob Watson is the punchline. Next time they need to put it in his ear hole and at least get their money’s worth. Luckily the Braves have a crap load of lefty relievers who throw mid-90’s and probably won’t miss him too much.
Andy
July 19th, 2010
5:21 pm
Location?
Glaus was hit in the ribs… what’s the difference? I’d rather get hit in the back myself…
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Notice the ribs are not near the head. What Venters did was considered head hunting. Wether you like it or not thats what the league saw
gammons is a peter
July 19th, 2010
5:22 pm
Enter your comments here
Come Again?
July 19th, 2010
5:22 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous. There is no way Venters intentionally hit Fielder. Fielder was hit by 2 of our pitchers who are notorious for hitting batters. They just lost control like they sometimes do. This is absolutely terrible. And what about the obvious retaliation against Heyward and Glaus? Two players of ours who were recently injured? If anything the Brewers need to be punished. What a bunch of whiners. No wonder they are near the bottom of a lousy division.
Change Turner Field to Aaron Stadium
July 19th, 2010
5:22 pm
Wow, just one more thing to motivate the Braves to the playoffs!! Terrible call…all the punishment without any of the benefit of actually doing it on purpose.
Peter
July 19th, 2010
5:24 pm
Hey Andy……Venters is a Rookie, and wow I have seen him throw to the back stop on many occasions……..he is crazy wild……..
Venters gets docked and Braves fans vent: Spare me, I say | Mark Bradley
July 19th, 2010
5:24 pm
[...] know from my Twitter feed that Braves fans are irate over the four-game suspension dealt Jonny Venters for plunking Prince Fielder — oddly enough, nobody seems all that miffed that Bobby Cox also [...]
bud selig
July 19th, 2010
5:24 pm
my ruling is final. don’t hurt my team
schmeckdawg
July 19th, 2010
5:24 pm
Is Fielder the world’s largest/fattest vegetarian or is it just my imagination?
willie g really hates bill shanks
July 19th, 2010
5:25 pm
STUPID DAVENPORT
curley, moe & larry
July 19th, 2010
5:27 pm
Bobby will be right in the dug out door way, calling the game.
Someone else will have to yell at the batters, i.e: “come on Chip!”, “Let’s go Mac!”, “come on Kid!”
Jay H.
July 19th, 2010
5:27 pm
Lots of vegetarians are fat. They eat too much bread & pasta & sugar.
Michael
July 19th, 2010
5:28 pm
In all fairness, medals should be awarded for NOT hitting Prince Fielder. C’mon, that’s a lot of Brewer to miss with a fastball.
Andy
July 19th, 2010
5:28 pm
Peter, that may all be true, but I was telling you what the league saw. I think it was handled on the field and that should have been the end of it.
Terrance X
July 19th, 2010
5:29 pm
THE SUSPENSION WAS DESERVED !!! i have been a Braves fan all my life but it does not mean i have to lose my objectivity ! whether you like Fielder or not – doesn’t matter. tell you what – if you think it was ok for Venters to throw those two pitches – you stand in there and let someone throw at you.
Curly Lowe & Mary
July 19th, 2010
5:30 pm
Bobby could borrow Bobby Valentine’s Groucho glasses.
David O'Brien
July 19th, 2010
5:30 pm
Andy, Glaus was hit in the lower part of his hip, not the ribs. Just for sake of accuracy.
Peter
July 19th, 2010
5:31 pm
Hey Andy…. 2 Braves got hit Sunday……… SO wasn’t it handled on the field ?
Andy
July 19th, 2010
5:32 pm
David, it was in response to the guy who said he was hit in the ribs, but thanks I thought it was the hip as well.
Keith
July 19th, 2010
5:33 pm
Why not get a real commissioner for MLB?
Andy
July 19th, 2010
5:34 pm
Peter, I have said twice before this that I thought it was taken care of on the field.
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
5:34 pm
Glaus was hit in the hip.
Ron
July 19th, 2010
5:34 pm
Pitiful. I sure miss baseball.
912 Dawg
July 19th, 2010
5:36 pm
I don’t think Corey Hart is going to be a brave after all this
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
5:37 pm
Terrance X……..IF, you were a Braves fan, you would know that Venters did not hit Fielder intentionally.
Veteran Fan
July 19th, 2010
5:38 pm
Bud “STEROIDS” Selig will long be remembered as the worst commissioner ever in the game! His coddling up to the big market teams like the Yankees and Dodgers is legendary. His ignorance of anything going on in baseball is criminal given his $19 million in salary! Please Bud RESIGN for the GOOD of the game!
BravesFanLostInOhio
July 19th, 2010
5:38 pm
lol @ Michael 5:28
gadawgs
July 19th, 2010
5:38 pm
What a bunch of f**king pu**ies the Brewers are. Macha needs to worry about managing instead acting like a little b*tch. Venters getting four games is ridiciulous even if he did hit him on purpose (which I think he did and fat boy deserved). Watch the Brewers “dig” in as their so-called mgr said they do and DARE you to throw inside. What are the pitchers supposed to do just give up that part of the plate up? If you are dug in and leaning over you are going to get hit, that’s baseball you bunch of pansies. If you show a pitcher up the next time you come up you get lit up, that’s baseball. You hit one of ours we hit one of yours, that’s baseball. The Brewers lead the league in hit batsmen (there has to be a REASON and it ain’t because they play the Braves every game). I hope the next time we play them that we drill the first guy that comes up to the plate. If fat*ss Watson doesn’t issue the SAME punishment against Macha and the Brewers pitcher the sh*t should hit the fan. Unbelievable.
Chop Chop
July 19th, 2010
5:39 pm
The suspensions are alright. Venters could use a few days off. He’s been used a lot. As for Bobby, who cares?
Much ado about very little.
Stat Man
July 19th, 2010
5:40 pm
Wonder how often a pitcher would be suspended if say, Bob Gibson, were in charge of that instead of Bob Watson?
Andy
July 19th, 2010
5:41 pm
Terrance X……..IF, you were a Braves fan, you would know that Venters did not hit Fielder intentionally.
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Not this again cry. You cant know for sure if they did or didnt throw at him. Only Venters, and maybe some of his team do. Come on. I know you like to make stuff up but you have to let this go.
Jay H.
July 19th, 2010
5:41 pm
As you say, it seemed settled on the field. Now, I hope Princess gets plunked again tonight by Karstens. MLB has fanned the flames with this inappropriate suspension.
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
5:42 pm
Kieth @533pm……Why not get a real commissioner for MLB?
Because Selig is an owner like the rest of them.The last real commissioner was fired because he didn’t give in, to the owners.
Matt the Brave
July 19th, 2010
5:43 pm
And that is why Ken Macha will never get into the postseason.
Jamie
July 19th, 2010
5:44 pm
The usual sissy ball that MLB has become! Bob Gibson wouldn’t make it one start now days. I agree with the previous posts- Selig’s babies so punishment is due!
Andy
July 19th, 2010
5:45 pm
What is so hard to understand about this? Hitting Prince did not get anyone suspended, it was the location of the pitches. MLB has to make sure it protects it players, and throwing around the shoulders twice in a row is something they can not let slide.
Andy
July 19th, 2010
5:46 pm
Matt, last year was the first time he wasnt in the postseason.
Probability
July 19th, 2010
5:46 pm
Venters does not have the best control of his pitches yet. He is still very young and polishing his repertoire. Prince Fielder crowds the plate when he is in the batter’s box. Venters was trying to throw inside to Fielder (who hits somewhere around .150 on pitches to the inside part of the plate) and he simply lost control of 2 consecutive pitches. One he released too soon and it went high; the next he located too far inside and it hit Fielder. That is it. End of discussion.
The Brewers know Bobby Cox and the Braves organisation well enough to deduce that there was no intention behind it. They are having a very disappointing season thus far though. Failing to meet expectations, especially with 3 of the best power hitters in the league, is grating on them. There is the explanation for their reaction to the events.
I disagree with the suspensions, but they won’t effect the Braves or Venters in the future.
david bowden
July 19th, 2010
5:46 pm
Stop the B.S. Yes he hit him and he WE will DO it AGAIN !!
Back off !!!!! Thats real baseball!!
Jamie
July 19th, 2010
5:47 pm
And Princess sure is manly to be such a little b****! Making daddy proud!
Tech sucks
July 19th, 2010
5:49 pm
What a freaking joke.
Mark Biles
July 19th, 2010
5:49 pm
Thia sux. Thing is, we have to play a player short for 4 games. Not fair. Wonder if it had been another team besides the Brewers if the ruling would have been so unfair?
Andy
July 19th, 2010
5:50 pm
Jamie, what did prince say to make him a B****? Did he complain about being hit? I can see being upset with Macha but what did Prince say?
DIT
July 19th, 2010
5:56 pm
Selig, the worst commissioner in Baseball history, being x owner of the Brewers have anything to do with the Braves suspensions???
LUKE
July 19th, 2010
5:57 pm
good enough for both of them to get a good kicking . hoping it would be chipper
oldguy
July 19th, 2010
5:59 pm
I’m an old guy who likes baseball….just kind of thinking back when players like Ted Williams, Mickey Mantle, Yogi Berra, etc. played….sure was different. Wonder why?
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
5:59 pm
Braves are one of the best comeback teams in the NL this season.
They were down, by only 3 runs.
Why would they want to take the chance of more runs being scored by the Brewers, by hitting Prince and putting another man on base?
It does not make any sense, at all, and any real Braves or baseball fan knows that.
So what reason would they want to hit Prince for on purpose?
That does not compute, Andy Robinson.
It’s illogical.
It’s not smart baseball for a team in 1st place, in a divisional race to take a chance of blowing, a game for a stupid action such as that.
Also, a lot of players showboat after a HR, against the Braves and the BRaves never try to hit those player in their next AB.
Also, Fielder really didn’t do much of anything for any opposing team to seek retaliation, after his HR.
If the Braves were a team that throws at batters, they would be throwing at people like Howard in Philly, or Mets batters, on teams that count, instead of batters on a team like the Brewers.
Dan
July 19th, 2010
6:03 pm
Its not what fielder said when he got hit, it was his posing after hitting a dinger. Good for Venters and Cox if he ordered it, you showboat you get plunked.
chipdip
July 19th, 2010
6:03 pm
PRINCE FIELDER LOVES WATERMELON AND KOOL-AID.
wjones
July 19th, 2010
6:04 pm
Let’s compromise. We agree to the 4-game suspension, but we get to pick the pitcher. I choose Jesse Chavez.
Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho
July 19th, 2010
6:05 pm
Macha has Cox envy
J-Man
July 19th, 2010
6:05 pm
I think being that Andy Petite is on the DL that they may look at Kenshin Kawakami maybe they will trade Joba Chamberlain for him.
Connie Mack
July 19th, 2010
6:07 pm
Nesbitt for Heisman
Andy
July 19th, 2010
6:07 pm
Also, a lot of players showboat after a HR, against the Braves and the BRaves never try to hit those player in their next AB.
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Really? They have hit the brewers three out of the seven times they have homered against the Braves. Either the next batter, or the player that hit the homerun the next AB.
Now I cant read peoples minds like cry but what I think happened was Venters threw the first pitch and was upset about being warned and thought, oh yeah? You are going to warn me for that? Well this is what happens when I throw at someone. I dont think it was called from the dougout, rather just a case of someone losing their temper with a baseball in their hands.
MaxxBrave
July 19th, 2010
6:07 pm
This is nonsense. What about Glaus getting beamed yesterday when we were blowing them out? Just because Ken Macha wants a suspension MLB gives it to him? This is crap
miker
July 19th, 2010
6:08 pm
Just shows again how stupid MLB management is. Hitting or throwing at batters is none of their business. For over 100 yrs the players policed themselves without help from management idots. Stop the stupid DH,suspend players for charging the mound, take away umpires authority to throw out pitchers for thowing at hitters. Let the players (pitchers) protect their teams. Baseball was the perfect sport from 1948 – 1957. Return to the rules as they were then.
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
6:09 pm
Venters the hot kid? That is hilarious.
Andy
July 19th, 2010
6:10 pm
Its not what fielder said when he got hit, it was his posing after hitting a dinger. Good for Venters and Cox if he ordered it, you showboat you get plunked.
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Thats how he finishes his swing, he didnt stand there, go to whezenball and look at his trot time. I could see if he stood there.
Nice chipdip. You make the ATL proud with your racist garbage.
Mathman
July 19th, 2010
6:11 pm
J-Man: You must be kidding. Joba Chamberlain for KK. Doubt if the Yanks would give you a 2nd grade prospect for KK or McLouse either.
TuckerBravesFan
July 19th, 2010
6:11 pm
I totally agree with What About The Other Guy..
Andy
July 19th, 2010
6:12 pm
Like I said cry, I cant read peoples minds, it was just MHO. The reason that this wasnt handled like it was in the 20s is simple. Money. People make too much of it to risk a career ending injury by a kid who couldnt keep the ball away from someones head.
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
6:13 pm
Meant hot-head kid.
That Jonny Venters, he is one bad motherf……..”shut yo mouth”……..but I’m talkin bout Venters……..”then you can do it”
Tallcarl
July 19th, 2010
6:14 pm
I think we should thow a couple at Ángel´. The man is evil. He is the one who has issues with the Braves from old Pennant days when he help rob the team.
Andy
July 19th, 2010
6:14 pm
Also, what is beamed? Is that an ATL thing? I thought it was beaned as in a beanball?
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
6:16 pm
It sounded like you were reading Venters mind @ 607pm.
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
6:17 pm
But, it also sounds like you don’t know what you are talking about when it comes to Braves baseball.
Peter
July 19th, 2010
6:19 pm
Hey Stat Man..great stuff…….Bob Gibson was flat out MEAN…..in a way anyone would respect !
Andy
July 19th, 2010
6:19 pm
Now I cant read peoples minds like cry but what I think happened was Venters threw the first pitch and was upset about being warned and thought, oh yeah? You are going to warn me for that? Well this is what happens when I throw at someone. I dont think it was called from the dougout, rather just a case of someone losing their temper with a baseball in their hands.
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Wow, if I could have made it any clearer in this post that I could read his mind I would have done it. I am sorry cry I will put it in caps next time.
Andy
July 19th, 2010
6:19 pm
LOL couldnt read his mind
Michael
July 19th, 2010
6:20 pm
4 games is steep. The players association will get it down to 2.
DDog10
July 19th, 2010
6:21 pm
Mr. Pappagiorgio you are close with your “not hitting anyone intentionally with a breaking ball” comment unless your Tom Glavine throwing at Dale Murphy.
Andy
July 19th, 2010
6:22 pm
But, it also sounds like you don’t know what you are talking about when it comes to Braves baseball.
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This isnt about knowing Braves baseball, its about you stating things as facts when they cleary are just you opinions, no matter how misinformed you are.
1.) How can you possibly know what Venters was thinking?
2.) Your comment about the Braves not hitting people after they hit HRs. When the hit nearly half the Brewers that did.
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
6:22 pm
As for as Venters getting mad, the kid is just glad to be in the majors as reported in the AJC,(I’m not reading his mind), and it seems like you would probably have to set him on fire, to get him angry.
Michael
July 19th, 2010
6:23 pm
I like watermelon, kool-aid, fried chicken and greens. Who doesn’t? Don’t like malt liquor, more of a Guinness man myself. Do I lose my bro’ card?
pdt
July 19th, 2010
6:24 pm
If Venters’ didn’t mean to hit Fielder then he should be removed from the team for having no control. It was the most intentional hit I’ve ever seen. He should be suspended.
Peter
July 19th, 2010
6:26 pm
Hey Andy……..watch the Braves much ?
Venters has thrown to the back stop quite a few times this year, each time he did it that I saw, the batter was right handed…….. Had he been in the left hand box, the same would have happened, but it would have looked like he was throwing at the batter.
Vikki Locke
July 19th, 2010
6:27 pm
First!
Andy
July 19th, 2010
6:27 pm
As for as Venters getting mad, the kid is just glad to be in the majors as reported in the AJC,(I’m not reading his mind), and it seems like you would probably have to set him on fire, to get him angry.
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There you go!!!! Thats an opinon, much difrent then a fact.
Michael, its fine when you say it about yourself, I too like those things but when you say it about a black player with nothing else to your comment it will come acrossed as racist.
Thomas
July 19th, 2010
6:27 pm
Have you ever been hit by 80 MPH sinking fastball? It don’t feel so good. Not taking sides either but rules are made to be enforced and the warning came on pitch 1 and pitch 2 was in the back. Intentional or not the rules dictated after the warning. GO BRAVES!
Andy
July 19th, 2010
6:28 pm
Hey Andy……..watch the Braves much ?
Venters has thrown to the back stop quite a few times this year, each time he did it that I saw, the batter was right handed…….. Had he been in the left hand box, the same would have happened, but it would have looked like he was throwing at the batter.
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Did he do it twice in a row and get warned after the first pitch? Didnt think so…
vermont 39
July 19th, 2010
6:30 pm
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crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
6:30 pm
The bottom line is, the Braves don’t need to throw at players on an insignificant team of underachievers like the Brewers to win against them.
Kyle
July 19th, 2010
6:32 pm
If they are going to pull this suspention crap then you might as well make it worth it….JFK him next time.
Long Time Braves Fan
July 19th, 2010
6:38 pm
Andy is sure not a Braves fan, he should go to a blog for his own team. Venters should have got his moneys worth for 4 games, it should have been a fastball right to the head.
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
6:38 pm
Andy, I’m sorry, that your team has a losing record.
But I’m getting the picture, that in your mind, you are just an angry Brewers fan, and that your team, just can’t ever get better.
I believe that you feel, maybe this will be the year, but it always goes down hill for the lowly Brewers.
You are more than likely, wishing that you were a Braves fan
P. Bull Terrier
July 19th, 2010
6:41 pm
On one hand you have the Braves and Bobby Cox with no history of throwing at batters, even when others thought they deserved it. With a shot at the playoffs in a tough division, in the middle of a winnable game, they happen to hit the guy who gets hit more than anyone else in the league due to his batting stlye.
On the other hand you have the Brewers, a team already out of the playoff race, and Macha, a manager who made no secret of the fact he was angry about his batters being hit the previous day. They throw 3 straight inside pitches before they finally hit Heyward, then after the umpire’s warning, they follow it up by hitting Glaus.
Who gets suspended? The Braves manager and pitcher? You’ve got to be kidding!
MLB is starting to look like the NBA and Pro Wrestling – no credibility at all.
robdawg08
July 19th, 2010
6:43 pm
How could they not have ejected the pitcher for hitting Glaus after both teams were warned. That is the umpire not doing his job. MLB should reprimand him and suspend his ass 4 games.
al
July 19th, 2010
6:44 pm
Didn’t take long for Escobar to start hitting the ball. Probably more at ease now that he can play with a team that appreciates his talent.
robdawg08
July 19th, 2010
6:46 pm
All Braves have to do is next time Hernandez is the umpire, let Tommy Hanson or whomever throw a 97 mph fastball into his shoulder (McCann can act like he’s trying to catch the ball).
southeast ga braves fan!
July 19th, 2010
6:47 pm
fielder is just too big a target!
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
6:48 pm
al…….I hope that Escobar goes on to have a great career.
But, he was not helping the Braves, so he needed to be gone.
Shane
July 19th, 2010
6:48 pm
Didn’t take long for Escobar to start hitting the ball. Probably more at ease now that he can play with a team that appreciates his talent.
The Braves appreciated it just fine. He played 446 games for the Braves at SS. Its not the braves fault Escobar quit on the team. They gave him every chance to show he wanted to be here.
In the end he made his own bed. Enjoy 4th place Yunel. Better take a jacket. I heard it can get cold in Toronto.
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
6:51 pm
If A. Hernandez is not the worst umpire in MLB, he certainly is in the top five.
He should be dismissed.
Jim
July 19th, 2010
6:54 pm
Shane he finished in 4th place last year with the Braves, didnt bother him much then.
Tami
July 19th, 2010
6:55 pm
I think this is pretty low. Although I didn’t see this part of the game, WHY would the Braves — collectively or independently — throw at the Brewers? WHY would Venters want to even hit Fielder, especially in that situation?? I think the Brewers & their manager are a bunch of crybabies. FOUR games & an undisclosed fine???? That’s WAAAY too much. Come on, MLB!! I think Venters should appeal.
JOHNNY B
July 19th, 2010
6:55 pm
I heard the talking heads on MLB tonight talking about guys who may get traded at the deadline and they were “Man loving” on Fielder!
They said the one drawback could be his pending free agency after 2011. Since Boras will push him to free agency and demand a contract in the Teixeira range (180 million for 8 years) Tex isn’t even worth that little lone Fielder!
I think he and Boras will both fall on their wallets if they really think his market value is that high!
tristan
July 19th, 2010
6:56 pm
You guys are forgetting where this really happened. Fielder threw an elbow at EOF in Milwaukee this year when EOF was covering first. EOF had thrown one up and in on Fielder and Fielder stared him down. Fielder grounded out to first and while EOF was covering, he tried to elbow him while running inside the baseline to get even closer to EOF. If you have MLB.com package online, you can go review it. It was the May 11th game and it was around the sixth-eighth innings. We all knew that the elbow was intentional at the time, and that is where MLB should have thrown the suspension. An attempt to strike someone with your arm/elbow should be an automatic suspension. How he got away with that is beyond me.
robdawg08
July 19th, 2010
6:56 pm
If I were a pitcher and an umpire kept calling pitches balls I knew were strikes I’d grill him in the face mask with a fastball intentionally. You know, it slipped…
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
6:56 pm
Jim…..it seemed like a lot of things bothered him. But, I agree, where his team finished in the standings, really didn’t seem to be one of them.
Vstatenatlchamps
July 19th, 2010
6:57 pm
I am so freakn mad…this is bull…i am almost as mad as I would be if Kenshin Kawakami evers pitches again for the braves.
Mike
July 19th, 2010
6:57 pm
http://gasportreport.blogspot.com/
It is that time of the year. With our team in a penant race brush back and bean balls will be regular and some will start a bench clearing pillow fight.
A’int it great to be in contention again!
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
6:59 pm
tristan@656……He got away with it, because the Commish ownes his team.
robdawg08
July 19th, 2010
7:01 pm
DOB MIA AS U S U A L.
Brava
July 19th, 2010
7:01 pm
Andy, the Brewers fan is back today to gloat because his pantywaist, unprofessional manager went and complained to MLB because his obese 1B got plunked by a rookie who is known to throw wild pitches. The fact is, Andy, your pitcher hit our player yesterday and received a warning. Two batters later, he hit another player and our manager did not demand that the pitcher and your pansy manager get ejected as happened to the Braves the night before. He could have demanded that the umpire enforce the rules, Andy, but he didn’t because he’s a professional who isn’t petty. Perhaps your wussy manager should stop having his players hang out all over the plate and they wouldn’t have the most hit batsmen in baseball. As for Prince Fata*s, maybe he could lose 130 pounds, you know get around 180 ( good weight for a 5′11″ guy), and he wouldn’t be such a gargantuan target for an errant pitch.
Thomas
July 19th, 2010
7:03 pm
MLB Rule 8.02 (d)
d) Intentionally Pitch at the Batter. If, in the umpire’s judgment, such a violation occurs, the umpire may elect either to:
1. Expel the pitcher, or the manager and the pitcher, from the game, or
2. may warn the pitcher and the manager of both teams that another such pitch will result in the immediate expulsion of that pitcher (or a replacement) and the manager. If, in the umpire’s judgment, circumstances warrant, both teams may be officially “warned” prior to the game or at any time during the game. (League Presidents may take additional action under authority provided in Rule 9.05) To pitch at a batter’s head is unsportsmanlike and highly dangerous. It should be_and is_condemned by everybody. Umpires should act without hesitation in enforcement of this rule.
“The umpires judgement should be called into question before making suspentions!”
Long Time Braves Fan
July 19th, 2010
7:03 pm
Next time a player needs to be hot put KK in 2 do it, then a 4 game sepention would not hurt.
robdawg08
July 19th, 2010
7:07 pm
Heck run McLouth out there to get er done…
robdawg08
July 19th, 2010
7:09 pm
Bottomline the umpire didn’t enforce MLB rules by ejecting the pitcher that hit Glaus after forewarning each team. How can that go unpunished ?
Brava
July 19th, 2010
7:11 pm
Exactly, robdawg. There seems to be a double standard here.
Andy
July 19th, 2010
7:11 pm
Andy, the Brewers fan is back today to gloat because his pantywaist, unprofessional manager went and complained to MLB because his obese 1B got plunked by a rookie who is known to throw wild pitches. The fact is, Andy, your pitcher hit our player yesterday and received a warning. Two batters later, he hit another player and our manager did not demand that the pitcher and your pansy manager get ejected as happened to the Braves the night before. He could have demanded that the umpire enforce the rules, Andy, but he didn’t because he’s a professional who isn’t petty. Perhaps your wussy manager should stop having his players hang out all over the plate and they wouldn’t have the most hit batsmen in baseball. As for Prince Fata*s, maybe he could lose 130 pounds, you know get around 180 ( good weight for a 5′11″ guy), and he wouldn’t be such a gargantuan target for an errant pitch.
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What dont you and cry get about it? I came on here and said it was a joke that they were suspended. Had you read the comments before just jumping in and givng a opinion you would know this. Either that or you are not smart enough to get it. I understand that you are upset about your guys get some vacation but dont let a cooler head stop you witch hunt.
cry. I didnt think this is the Brewers year, just like I dont think it will be next year. Clearly after all the times I have posted your errors, you got a little upset about not being able to come back at me with anything. Kind of like the guys on here that cant think of anything meaningfull to say so they just resort to calling Prince fat.
robdawg08
July 19th, 2010
7:12 pm
Or you could let Heyward score from 2nd on a single and hit Hernandez like a linebacker at the plate. That would be sweet !
Chop Chop
July 19th, 2010
7:16 pm
And then Heyward will somehow hurt himself and miss a month.
Brava
July 19th, 2010
7:17 pm
Andy, if you think Bobby would use Venters to intentionally hit Fielder, knowing he could get suspended, when we are facing a REAL team starting tomorrow and need him badly, well, you may be missing a few brain cells. Anyone who follows the Braves knows that he would have used KK or Chavez if he wanted to plunk the Corpulent One. And no, I don’t resort to calling him fat because I have nothing meaningful to say, I’m just stating a fact.
Jeff
July 19th, 2010
7:18 pm
From: Najeh Davenpoop
In related news, AJC Braves beat writer David O’Brien is suspended all the time and was suspended most of Spring Training. Needing time to pay bills in person the old fashioned way and do laundry, O’Brien was on vacation again and could not be reached for comment.
Hilarious….
shawn
July 19th, 2010
7:18 pm
OKAY…….Macha is going to be fired after this season what an idiot
Brava
July 19th, 2010
7:19 pm
Oh, and I’m not a guy, Andy.
robdawg08
July 19th, 2010
7:19 pm
Yeah better just go with heater on the forehead…
Andy
July 19th, 2010
7:21 pm
Andy, the Brewers fan is back today to gloat because his pantywaist, unprofessional manager went and complained to MLB because his obese 1B got plunked by a rookie who is known to throw wild pitches. The fact is, Andy, your pitcher hit our player yesterday and received a warning. Two batters later, he hit another player and our manager did not demand that the pitcher and your pansy manager get ejected as happened to the Braves the night before. He could have demanded that the umpire enforce the rules, Andy, but he didn’t because he’s a professional who isn’t petty. Perhaps your wussy manager should stop having his players hang out all over the plate and they wouldn’t have the most hit batsmen in baseball. As for Prince Fata*s, maybe he could lose 130 pounds, you know get around 180 ( good weight for a 5′11″ guy), and he wouldn’t be such a gargantuan target for an errant pitch.
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Wow this is getting tough. If you could read, you would see where I specificly said I didnt think Bobby called for it. If you are not going to read the things I write and just make stuff up then whats the point of talking to you?
Andy
July 19th, 2010
7:23 pm
Good to know Brava. Are you and the girls coming out with another trak to go with Tardy to the Party on this years show?
Hoosier Aaron
July 19th, 2010
7:24 pm
Didn’t Wags give a little fist pump to Fielder after he blew him away yesterday? Think that was a message from Wags to Fielder? You’ve gotta love that guy. It’s certainly nice to know that 9th inning with lead = Game over!
MLBcorruption
July 19th, 2010
7:25 pm
After seeing the way the umpring has gone, it is no wonder fans look at the MLB as trying to force bigger market teams in to the playoffs. It is all about $$$, not who has the best team. Besides, in the golden era of baseball, this kind of thing happened all the time. Fielder has enough padding on him to take a small passenger train without feeling anything.
#31
July 19th, 2010
7:25 pm
How long would an NBA game take if there was some sort of retribution from the other team after the other showboated?
alphadawg
July 19th, 2010
7:26 pm
this is yard waste, nothing more. Apparently the fans in Milwaukee have been wailing on Macha for not having cajones to stand up for his players. Just our luck the lowlife would piss and moan to the MLB home office….now he looks like a hero to his hometown and we are out a key reliever for 4 games. I just wish Venters had really drilled him instead of hitting him between the shoulder blades…
itpdude
July 19th, 2010
7:27 pm
Here I thought you guys suspended some of the Braves Venters for four games.
Jon is an idiot
July 19th, 2010
7:28 pm
Objectively? Yes, I am looking “objectively” at the fact that after the umpire warns the pitcher and both benches the next guy who plunks someone gets thrown out. So, why didn’t the Brewers pitcher get thrown out? Fielder leans his fat butt almost covering home plate. You try to throw inside to him and not hit him. All people who lean out over the plate know they will get hit and most take it in stride. Just because he is a crybaby is this a big deal.
Next time they should drill him with a 95mph fastball and not a breaking ball
DogTarget
July 19th, 2010
7:29 pm
Maybe if Fielder didn’t weigh 500 pounds, it’d be tougher to miss him. He’s a big target and he can’t move and doesn’t try to.
MB
July 19th, 2010
7:30 pm
That’s a load of bull$hit. The Brewers intentionally hit Glaus the other night, after being warned, and the umps did nothing. Apparently it’s not only ESPN who hates the Braves.
the truth...
July 19th, 2010
7:31 pm
OH….let’s see…where was bad ass Watson when it comes to steroids and Bonds? What a hypocrite….
the sport adolizes Bob Gibson, yet he would stick one in your ear in a heart beat…period…
Prince Fielder would be knocked out of his stinking shoes the next time he came up against Gibson….
This is crap we all know…and oh…I forgot to mention that the commish is a Milwaukee boy isn’t he?
Andy
July 19th, 2010
7:32 pm
Objectively? Yes, I am looking “objectively” at the fact that after the umpire warns the pitcher and both benches the next guy who plunks someone gets thrown out. So, why didn’t the Brewers pitcher get thrown out? Fielder leans his fat butt almost covering home plate. You try to throw inside to him and not hit him. All people who lean out over the plate know they will get hit and most take it in stride. Just because he is a crybaby is this a big deal.
Next time they should drill him with a 95mph fastball and not a breaking ball
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Where to start?
1.) Crybaby? What did he say? The only comment I heard was him saying its part of the game.
2.) He did hit him with a 94 MPH fastball
3.) It wasnt close. if you hit a guy in the elbow that is brushing him back, putting it between the numbers is not tring to pitch inside, consdiering the catcher was setting up on the outside corner.
meema
July 19th, 2010
7:32 pm
Wendy Selig to Bud Selig to Bob Watson, make it so…
Brava
July 19th, 2010
7:32 pm
Andy: Good to know Brava. Are you and the girls coming out with another trak to go with Tardy to the Party on this years show?
I have no clue what you are talking about here, but I’m also not a girl. I am a woman.
Prince Fielder
July 19th, 2010
7:34 pm
I’m fat
Andy
July 19th, 2010
7:35 pm
Wow Brava, how is that house full of cats? Sorry I called you a girl
Stuart
July 19th, 2010
7:36 pm
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a manager suspended for a player hitting someone with a pitch…. that’s crazy…
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
7:39 pm
Do the Brewers lead the league in their batters being hit by a pitch?
Does P. Fielder lead the league in being hit by a pitch?
Long Time Braves Fan
July 19th, 2010
7:43 pm
MLB corruption: I am thinking the same thing
Milt Famey
July 19th, 2010
7:47 pm
Did Venters hit Fielder on purpose? No doubt aboutit. If you’ll look back to our series in May, Hanson hit Braun and Davis hit McCann after Glaus hit a HR. Ok, we’re even, right? Next night in that same series, we’re blowing them out and they hit B-Mac again. He left the game. As Don Sutton often tells us, ballplayers have a long memory. To my way of thinking, there is payback due to the Brewers even though it will come next year since we are done with them this year. If Macha wants his prima donas to not get hit, he needs to talk to his pitchers.
Brava
July 19th, 2010
7:47 pm
Andy: Wow Brava, how is that house full of cats? Sorry I called you a girl
Again, I have no clue what you are talking about. House full of cats? What does that mean?
Guess it’s a cheesehead thing what with all the rats hanging around. Not so into cheese myself, so I don’t really need a house full of cats.
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
7:48 pm
Andy, I think you should change your name to GO!
No matter how much logic and knowledge is thrown back at you, either you are just not able to comprehend it, or you just plain refuse to admit that you are wrong.
I suggest GO!, because I truly believe that you would argue with a stop sign, just to have something to do.
Braves fan80
July 19th, 2010
7:52 pm
Andy
Explain why the Brewers pitcher and manager didnt get a suspension for plunking Glaus .That is my biggest beef with this whole deal .What is fair for one team should be fair for the other.
ChinookGuy
July 19th, 2010
7:55 pm
I agree with other posters here. I was a pitcher and played a little in college. I would never try to plunk some one with a friggin breaking ball. I would have aimed at Fielder’s large @$$ with a fastball (mine’s more of a Niekro fastball. It wouldn’t of hurt him too much, but he would have gotten the message.
Philly Braves Fan
July 19th, 2010
7:57 pm
I would like MLB to review the entire Brewers team…they have the 4th best offense in all of baseball and are currently 10 games out of first place….Perhaps a suspension is merited for impersonating a major league baseball team????
jesse james
July 19th, 2010
8:00 pm
Once again major league baseball shows just how mixed up it is. As long as Bud Selig is in charge it will remain this way. Bob Watson is a joke. Next time it wouldn’t be a breaking ball. He would have to scrape a 98 mph fastball off his third roll of fat.
Brava
July 19th, 2010
8:03 pm
Problem with plunking Fielder with a fast ball, he’s so fat the darn thing might bounce and kill someone in Kennesaw.
Will Stockdale
July 19th, 2010
8:06 pm
What a farce.
jesse james
July 19th, 2010
8:07 pm
Brava – You are right! You know he is a heck of a hitter and this will do nothing to help is popularity.
jacketbrave
July 19th, 2010
8:08 pm
prince is just a fat crybaby! go braves and jackets!
Will Stockdale
July 19th, 2010
8:09 pm
Prince is kinda hard to miss….
Andy
July 19th, 2010
8:11 pm
Brava, I said the cat thing because you come arcorssed as a crazy lady that has a house full of cats and no man around. Sorry you were offended by me calling you a girl.
cry. What facts have you given me that I ignore? I have come back at you with the facts. In fact I have owned you the past few days. Let me know what I said that you had a problem with and I will continue to own you.
Braves Fan80 Now I think that the Brewers pitcher should have gotten tossed after hitting Glaus, but not suspended. The reason Bobby and Venters got suspended is because Venters was throwing at or near the head. If Venters would have not thrown one at his head and then in his upper back there would be no suspension. MLB considered it head hunting and thats why they got suspended.
jesse james
July 19th, 2010
8:12 pm
There is only small window to throw thru, unless you throw it out side in the RH batter’s box. I always heard he wanted to be one of those wrestlers that wear them towels around their butt.
jacketbrave
July 19th, 2010
8:12 pm
yet when troy got hit their pitcher didnt get thrown out! andy ur a loser brewer get a life and a real baseball team
Brava
July 19th, 2010
8:13 pm
Well, I just wonder how other teams are going to view the pansy Macha tattling to MLB because Princess Flabby got plunked?
Fish
July 19th, 2010
8:13 pm
Wow, a lot of people have a lot of opinions when it’s obvious they didn’t even watch the game. First of all, Venters drilled Fielder with a “sinker” (that’s a type of fastball) not a breaking ball. Even Joe Simpson called it intentional, especially since the first pitch was right at Fielder’s ear.
As far as the Braves who got hit, look at the game situation and it’s clear it wasn’t intentional. Glaus got clipped with the catcher setting up inside and it LOADED THE BASES! Only an idiot would think that was intentional. Heyward got dusted with an inside fastball that basically only hit his uniform. Considering that they were pitching him inside for the whole game and that was the third consecutive pitch to the same location, one could actually argue that he leaned into it as much as you could argue that the pitcher was throwing at him. If you watched either game, it’s pretty clear who was headhunting. I’m a Braves fan, but our guys were the bad guys in this one (and Fielder didn’t “watch” any of his homers – the replays were pretty clear on that).
jacketbrave
July 19th, 2010
8:13 pm
i wish that ball would have missed his fat ass and hit andy!
Mathman
July 19th, 2010
8:13 pm
Bad news. McLouse to be activated tomorrow. Blanco to Gwinnett. And, if not against a lefty tomorrow, then McLouse will start against the first righty we see. Damn.
Andy
July 19th, 2010
8:14 pm
Bvaes Fan 80, sorry, the last part of that wasnt very clear. what I was trying to say was that if Venters had just thrown the first pitch into his hip (like what happened to Glaus) then there would be no suspension.
Barry
July 19th, 2010
8:15 pm
Ya this is total bulls**t. Cox and Venters not only get ejected but also fined and suspended for the same actions two of the Brewers pitchers did in the same inning and they get…nothing? Are you kidding me? I watched the highlight and saw the umpire step out and point at both benches after Heyward got grazed. Is that not a warning? Then Glaus gets plunked and nothing happens. It’s gotta be the same for both sides.
jesse james
July 19th, 2010
8:15 pm
Hey Andy- How many times does Prado have to be thrown at before something is done? He has been decked about 6 or 7 times in the last 3 weeks. The difference is he doesn’t cry about it. He knocks the heck out of hit.
Andy
July 19th, 2010
8:15 pm
I know, I know I am ruining the witch hunt. Dont let the facts stop you guys. And remeber Prince Fielder is FAT!
JASon
July 19th, 2010
8:15 pm
It doesn’t matter whether Venters was trying to throw at Fielder: he was warned!
Bobby Cox, you are a jerk, you suck, and I am embarassed that I am associated with the same city as you.
Brava
July 19th, 2010
8:16 pm
Well, Andy, you come across as a pimply-faced adolescent hanging out in his parent’s basement with no friends around, but I wasn’t going to make this personal by outing you.
Andy
July 19th, 2010
8:17 pm
Hey Andy- How many times does Prado have to be thrown at before something is done? He has been decked about 6 or 7 times in the last 3 weeks. The difference is he doesn’t cry about it. He knocks the heck out of hit.
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When did Prince cry about it? I have asked this all wekend and not gotten an answer. All he ever said was that it was part of the game. Also maybe you missed where Prince knocked the crap out of it. Come on guys you are going to have to do better than Prince is fat and Prince is a crybaby.
jesse james
July 19th, 2010
8:17 pm
JASon – we feel the same way about you!
Brava
July 19th, 2010
8:18 pm
Or calling you a boy.
jacketbrave
July 19th, 2010
8:18 pm
jason ur only a manly atlanta citizen unless its spelled jason go back to wisconson fungi head
Andy
July 19th, 2010
8:18 pm
Well Brava, I am not. I actually live in Mexico where I teach first grade at an ESL school. But, thanks for the guess. Say hi to your cats for me.
jesse james
July 19th, 2010
8:20 pm
Andy – You could look at his facial expressions and then when he staired at the mound. The bottom line is I don’t say make it a habit of hitting people, but I am glad to see the Braves not back down to anyone. They are tired of their guys getting thrown at. Escobar was decked many times last weekend.
jacketbrave
July 19th, 2010
8:20 pm
i mean jayson
jacketbrave
July 19th, 2010
8:22 pm
ANDY u could do better than milwaukee
Brava
July 19th, 2010
8:22 pm
Oh jeezus, enter the fake “Braves fans”. :rolll:
Andy
July 19th, 2010
8:23 pm
Andy – You could look at his facial expressions and then when he staired at the mound. The bottom line is I don’t say make it a habit of hitting people, but I am glad to see the Braves not back down to anyone. They are tired of their guys getting thrown at. Escobar was decked many times last weekend.
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I get it man, this is the first time all year the Brewers have backed up their own. I wish the Brewers were more like the Braves in that way. I havent come on here knocking what the Braves are doing. I think they have a great team and I love that Bobby cox gets into it when backing up his guys. All I ever said was thishappened because of the location of the mis and the HBP.
Robz747
July 19th, 2010
8:25 pm
I would like to know what the precedent to this situation is – 4 GAMES??? and Manager one game?
For hitting a guy –
Its OBVIOUS that ole Bud SELIG is behind this one since oh yeah he’s a BREWERS FAN!! UN FREAKING BELIEVABLE how this guy still has a job!
Brava
July 19th, 2010
8:26 pm
Well Andy, I’m a retired Army Sergeant Major with two Shih Tzus and no cats. But thanks for the guess. Say hi to your loser team for me and let Princess know we’ll be waiting for him next season so he might want to make himself a less appealing target during the off-season by losing about 190 pounds.
Yeah, that’s right, he’s gained ten pounds since I suggested earlier on the blog that he should lose 180.
nymets
July 19th, 2010
8:27 pm
METS RULE ANYWAY!!!
Brava
July 19th, 2010
8:28 pm
Yes, Mets rule the basement. What’s your point?
Unknown Hinson
July 19th, 2010
8:28 pm
DOB is there anyway possible to get a quote from Watson or his people as to why they would not take any action against the Brewers or why the Umps didn’t follow protocol and eject the Riske or whatever his name was? I have never seen anything like this since I’ve been a fan.
Unknown Hinson
July 19th, 2010
8:29 pm
Haha, Mets rule… Too funny.
Andy
July 19th, 2010
8:31 pm
Well Andy, I’m a retired Army Sergeant Major with two Shih Tzus and no cats. But thanks for the guess. Say hi to your loser team for me and let Princess know we’ll be waiting for him next season so he might want to make himself a less appealing target during the off-season by losing about 190 pounds.
Yeah, that’s right, he’s gained ten pounds since I suggested earlier on the blog that he should lose 180.
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Youre going to have to see him in interleague play. No way he is with the Crew next year. I dont really talk to the Brewers that much but if I see one of the guys I will say hi. I know we are trading jabs here but thank you for your service.
jesse james
July 19th, 2010
8:32 pm
The bottom line is that MLB and Bud Selig can’t stand the Braves being ahead of the Mets and Phillies. They would love to see the Mets win the Division and Phillies as the wildcard.
Unknown Hinson
July 19th, 2010
8:36 pm
How much $ you want to bet Macha doesn’t make it until the end of the season. He needs to be more worried about playing baseball because obviously his mind is too focused on being a b*#%h. If I was a Brewers fan I would be embarrassed, you don’t retaliate by going to tell on someone, you take care of it on the field. Sorry Brewers but your Skipper has you heading on the road to nowhere, seems like you should have kept Yost.
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
8:36 pm
jj @832pm…….You have hit the nail on the head. Big market ratings.
Brava
July 19th, 2010
8:37 pm
Well, thank you, Andy. That’s very nice of you.
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
8:37 pm
Macha will be gone sooner than later.
Brava
July 19th, 2010
8:38 pm
I agree, jesse james. The Braves are MLB’s red-headed step-child.
Andy
July 19th, 2010
8:39 pm
I hope you guys are right about Macha. 90% of the Brewers fans have wanted him gone since May.
Johnny Venters
July 19th, 2010
8:43 pm
I might just hit Prince Fielders fat a** again. He ain’t nothing but a buffet monster.
Andy
July 19th, 2010
8:45 pm
Fat boy just went yard.
Brava
July 19th, 2010
8:50 pm
Fielder just ate a yard. Seriously, he said, “Lawn mower? I don’t need no freaking lawn mower.”
Manny's Motor
July 19th, 2010
8:50 pm
Prince is a heart attack or stoke waiting to happen. The Eric Gregg of first base.
Brava
July 19th, 2010
8:53 pm
What do you call two fat men having a chat?
Prince Fielder
Milt Famey
July 19th, 2010
8:54 pm
The Brewers had a very good manager who got a lot out of a small budget team. Why would you fire Ned Yost? Maybe you should fire the GM.
George
July 19th, 2010
8:58 pm
Fielder’s Gay
JohnnyG
July 19th, 2010
9:02 pm
Escobar just hit another home run for the jays. What a bad trade we gave up on Him to early
Andy
July 19th, 2010
9:03 pm
Milt, Yost did a very good job of handling the young players. When they were in the hunt for a playff spot the word was that he became very uptight and made all the players nervous. The Brewers wanted someone a little more even keeled but it seems like Grandpa Ken is napping through most of the games, the need to find someone with a pulse that dosnt freak out when the pressure is on.
As far as the GM, most of the fans want him gone after the year too. This year his signings have cost us a lot. Souppan and Hall are playing for other teams while making 20 million from the Brewers. Also he takes a lot of heat for not developing any young pitching beside Yo.
Chris from the Rock
July 19th, 2010
9:10 pm
Free Adam Dunn!
Brava
July 19th, 2010
9:12 pm
Milt, I agree.
All joking aside, it will be tough facing the Padres without Venters available as a reliever. I hope he appeals so he can play in the series.
Also, I see why the Mets troll was here earlier. They’re playing the D-Backs tonight, so they’ll probably eek out a win.
Brava
July 19th, 2010
9:14 pm
JohnnyG, no way Escobar was going to perform like that for the Braves.
Castrologist
July 19th, 2010
9:16 pm
Escobar has a chip on his shoulder now. So did Francoeur when the Braves let him go. He hit for a while and then came back down to who he really is. Same with KJ. These guys tear it up for a while after they suck a*s for us. Keep the train rollin’, Bravos. Who needs Escobar any way?
http://castrologist.tumblr.com
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
9:20 pm
Gave up on Escobar too early? Are you kidding me, the Braves gave him every chance they could, until it was apparent that he was not going to change his attitude.
JohnnyG
July 19th, 2010
9:26 pm
Really disagree we had Escobar under our control for another four years and gonzalas for one more year and having a career year we bought high and sold low
lol
July 19th, 2010
9:27 pm
One bk judge named Watson. Believe he was fired with JT back in 91.
one bk Fielder. That Brewers are trying to trade.
one white pitcher thats wild sometimes.
one white Mgr that holds the record for being ejected.
What did you expect from the JUDGE? Nothing new its called pay back.
I do respect Venter more for taking one for the team, right are wrong.
lol
JohnnyG
July 19th, 2010
9:30 pm
You guys are crazy he has had two bunt singles a grand slam another home run tonight. I guess will see long run but I really think we shouldn’t have given up on him or gotten more
Red Panty Dawg
July 19th, 2010
9:30 pm
It could of been worse. Tell me about it.
ripcord
July 19th, 2010
9:33 pm
Lets don’t make the Brewers mad because we might still trade for Hart.
bravesfaninnc
July 19th, 2010
9:49 pm
It so wrong that Bobby and Cox, and Jonny Venters get suspensions.While Prince Fielder who Saturday after he was hit he try to slide into 2ndb and take Gooze legs out And the Brewers pitchers hit troy glaus and yet no one from there team face any suspension.Let look into positive.And that is Jonny will get 4 days of rest which could help the braves down the road.We still have 2 very good pitchers who throw from the left side.With that said Jonny should not be suspension for 4 games. 1 game i can deal with it but 4games give me a brake.And also why was Bobby face any suspension when bobby did not hit anyone with a pitch plus he was not throwing out of the game
crymeariver
July 19th, 2010
9:52 pm
Escobar’s trade was a dead-head culling. He would never have helped the Braves, he had quit playing.Wren got the better end of the deal.
I hope Excobar does great in his career, and Reyes too, but neither one of them were helping the Braves.
robdawg08
July 19th, 2010
10:03 pm
Escobar had a problem with Cox or somebody on the team and wasn’t playing hard. Now he’s away from his perceived adversary, he’s on fooking fire !
BuzztheKiller
July 19th, 2010
10:06 pm
Fielder is a fat wannabe just like his daddy. He will eat his way out of baseball within two years. What a frickin joke. I would say the Brewers better watch out but there is no way in hell they make the playoffs. Have fun under .500 the rest of the year losers. Then watch Mrs Fielder Cookie eater run to the money with a big free agent contract, same for Cory “no sunglasses at night but I love Lynard Skynard Hart”.
Old Brave Fan
July 19th, 2010
10:08 pm
I have watched the Braves since they came to Atlanta and I must say that the umpiring so far this season has been the worst I have seen for all the teams !!!
reality
July 19th, 2010
10:11 pm
No great lss here …… This team is just plain pitiful just like their fans. PissPoor excuse of human being the whole lot of them. Just leave now and put this city out of their misery.
BuzztheKiller
July 19th, 2010
10:16 pm
Reality- I know you are not talking about Atlanta or the Braves. I am sure you are talking about the Brewers. Right?
Rhino
July 19th, 2010
10:38 pm
Geez, 4 games is a bit steep.
http://www.rhinorant.com
Braves Suck
July 19th, 2010
10:39 pm
Hey Braves, take your suspensions like a bunch of men and get over it. And all you whiny little people crying about it, get over it you losers.
Brewers Fan
July 19th, 2010
10:42 pm
You hit us, we hit you. Get over it you babies. See you next season you rednecks!!!
Jason
July 19th, 2010
10:42 pm
This is how baseball is supposed to police itself. So for the folks saying the Brewers should be suspended, learn the game.
Chris
July 19th, 2010
11:21 pm
Venters got probably a game too much, Cox got the right amount but for the Braves to say both pitches were pitches that got away is just not true, not at least for so called professionals. If Venters appeals, add a game to both Cox and Venters’ suspensions.
Baldemar Huerta
July 19th, 2010
11:40 pm
This in a nutshell is what is wrong with America. Get over it you pansies.
bang'm
July 20th, 2010
12:00 am
yunel another bomb.
hAL
July 20th, 2010
12:08 am
if that t fat pig had,had abpiut 20 less donuts it might have missed him lol im glad jv got him next time make it your bestt heat john
hAL
July 20th, 2010
12:09 am
by the wauy i got it figured how the braves cant miss in the east just dont play anymore games by august the mess and sillys will each be 30 games out lol
JR
July 20th, 2010
12:19 am
If Venters had been trying to hit Fielder, I don’t think it would have taken him 2 pitches. I mean, that is a pretty big target.
crymeariver
July 20th, 2010
12:23 am
Andy, or GO……..How many different names are you going to use on this Braves blog?
braves70
July 20th, 2010
12:44 am
Don’t underestimate Ken Macha’s dislike of the Braves and Cox. After all, Macha is technically the replacement for Cox’s leutinent, Ned Yost. The Brewers fired Yost on their way to the playoffs in 2008 which was a low class move. In his 2 years at the helm, Macha has overseen a dramatic backslide down the division table by the Brewers.
We could also throw in that Macha played for the Pirates under Chuck Tanner who tried to take away credit for Cox’s success with the Braves by saying that he paved the way.
Eli
July 20th, 2010
12:56 am
Wake up, either win some games or pretend to be a prince. That franchise should have be “foreclosured” last decade/century.
PDOG
July 20th, 2010
1:24 am
i hope that what Escobar is doing will make Wren think a bit before giving away the store again. Escobar will hit 300 for the rest of the year with 10 homers and 40 rbis. By Oct I sure hope you all wont be saying what if Wren had kept him.
Bill Hohn
July 20th, 2010
1:41 am
The main point is that if they were going to warn and eject on Saturday, they should have warned and followed through with ejections on Sunday. The umpire crew had two sets of rules in the last two games of the series. They should all, along with Bob Watson, be suspended for a month without pay. They all embarrassed themselves and made a mockery out of the whole episode.
Suspending Venters is a farce. I can’t believe how many dumbbells here don’t know the difference between a slider and a fastball. The first pitch to Fielder was a slider, the second was a fastball. Look at the video, not the gametracker! An equal number seem to be ignorant of the reasons why and how a player gets thrown at. It isn’t even debatable what happened in this case. Would the Braves get their already overused rookie lefty up in the pen, warm him to being game-ready, bring him in, and then have him blatantly attack a hitter while Angel Hernandez was behind the plate? How stupid do you think the Braves are? Use some common sense! Angel overreacted, which was predictable, and the warning over a slider escalated beyond his little league ability.
Do not discount the fact that the Braves were only down 3 runs in the 8th inning with 6 outs to get those back against a Brewers’ pen which has given up many games this season. We all know that the Braves lead the world in late-inning drama this season so why in the world would they intentionally put the leadoff man on when they were already down 3? You really think they made a conscious decision to give up on the game so they could hit Fielder for no particular reason with their most valuable pitcher in the bullpen? When Bobby warmed up Venters and brought him in while the team was down 3 he was telling you EXACTLY how bad he wanted to come back and win that game and how possible he thought that was.
Venters has opened other outings with backstop-pitches in warmups and in his first few pitches in the game. He is second on the Braves’ team in HBP (behind Hanson) even though he is just a reliever and has a fraction of the IP of others on the team. A quick check of his splits will remind you that all four of his HBP’s this season were against LHB! He isn’t that good at pitching in to lefties quite yet as a rookie, and nobody seems to remember that the issue that retarded his minor league development was wildness! He is also walking 4.5 guys per 9 IP at the ML level this year, which is high. Some idiots think a good ERA means Venters can put the ball wherever he wants which his definitely not the case. He has a low ERA because his ball moves so much, at times uncontrollably. That is a fact.
Angel is a terrible umpire, which you expect. Nobody knew for sure how bad Bob Watson is until he came in with the suspension.
Only thing worse than what Angel did was what ScottBarry did on Sunday, executing a warning after Heyward was thrown at with three straight fastballs with the third one finally hitting him, and then not throwing Riske out when he drilled Glaus with the same pitch that Venters got tossed for: A tailing fastball inside waist-high. I don’t think Riske actually tried to hit Glaus, to be honest, but just like it was with Venters, they had to toss him. To not do so turned the whole weekend into a showcase for how to umpire little league games. Even a little league umpire should be able to figure out what is going on when Parra, with his team being routed and his pitch count over 100, threw three consecutive fastballs right at Heyward, and so should the little league guy at MLB. Bob Watson is the biggest sap of the whole bunch to turn in the paperwork on a 4 game suspension while ignoring Parra and Riske You cannot have two sets of standards and rules. Insanity!
I really think that MLB is trying to keep Prince from killing somebody on the field. I’m sure Boras is all over MLB to protect his free-agent-to-be. The pictures of Angel snuggling with Prince all the way up the first-base line are good enough that I’m glad the whole thing happened, even if Venters is screwed over. Read Diaz’s comments from the post-game Sat blog…everybody knows Prince is an out of control red-ass (ask Manny Parra) and if he does go to the mound he might end up ending more than one career, especially his own. I’m glad Venters is still alive and that too is worth the ridiculous suspension.
I’m sure they will reduce the suspension on Venters. Too bad Bobby has no way to appeal. The umps and Watson really blew this one.
Heyward
July 20th, 2010
1:43 am
DOB please stop moderating my comments
Just like You Babe
July 20th, 2010
1:44 am
why are my comments moderated?
Just like You Babe
July 20th, 2010
1:45 am
this is a total bogus call by Bob Watson just not right in my book. Our guys did hit them a time or two, but two of our soldiers got hit in the same inning and nothing was done about it????? How can Bob Watson justify these suspensions??
Just like You Babe
July 20th, 2010
1:46 am
next Bob Watson will suspend another rookie for striking out twice in a game
crymeariver
July 20th, 2010
6:54 am
PDOG@124am……Once again, Escobar had LAID-DOWN on the Braves. He wasn’t going to do anything to help the Braves win, he was a liablity, not an asset.
Up in Canada right now, he’s trying to prove Wren was wrong.
He had already proven in Atlanta, that he didn’t care anymore.
It probably will not be long before someone or something makes him mad in Toronto, and he will lay-down on the Bluejays.
I hope he does great up there, but the Braves will be fine, without his baggage.
Atlanta came out of top of this trade.
Delbert D.
July 20th, 2010
7:08 am
Given the girth of Mr. Fielder, it would be very difficult to prove in court that his being hit by a pitch is intentional. This should go to the US Court of Appeals.
Ron H
July 20th, 2010
7:15 am
LOL at Delbert D.
This will be appealed and the suspension will be 2 games for Venters.Cox will just sit it out and smoke a cigar. I do think the Braves need to submit a complaint to MLB regarding the decision by the umps NOT to suspend the Brewer’s players. Both sides were warned and nothing came of it.
BS!
Felix Millan
July 20th, 2010
7:28 am
I think I missed something– does DOB still work for the AJC?
hAL
July 20th, 2010
8:01 am
i wish that security guard at dodger stadium had let fatso fielder and manny r go at it more oxygen for the rest of the human race if you elmiminate those two idiots get it on i think the concrete in the clubhouse would have been the big loser in that fight eather fatso or mad rams head would break good hard concrete
hAL
July 20th, 2010
8:11 am
my question is if jv threw at the backstop did he hit it? i mean hiiting fat ass is one thing a lil thing like a back stop could be problamatic
Cecil34
July 20th, 2010
8:15 am
First of all, there needs to be more plunking in the game, keeps hitters honest – that is one reason hitting surged in the past several years, as well as credit to pharmaceuticals. The worm has obviously turned on the pharma issue, HR are down to normal levels.
Due to Selig’s poor stewardship of the game of baseball, we have players (like Fielder) who basically wear pajamas out on the field, and look nothing like an actual baseball player. Manny is another pajama-wearer. Their image and actions are a red flag that MLB basically has no real commissioner, only a buffoon.
Where have stirrups gone? Why are players wearing slacks to play baseball in? That is laziness. There are no uniform standards in MLB. That trend should have never been allowed to start in the first place.
Even the NFL has uniform standards.
Selig now has so many stooges in the MLB offices, that even when he passes on, they will still circle the waters like a rudderless ship.
George
July 20th, 2010
8:23 am
Sorry state of affairs, I can remember when Bob Gibson said “I would hit my own mother if she was crowding the plate”. With few exceptions pitchers are afraid to pitch inside and hitters sit on top of the plate. Hopefully Johnny can put this behind him.
Yep
July 20th, 2010
8:51 am
If Cecil lost a few pounds and wasn’t such a FAT SLOB, then maybe he wouldn’t be as big a target.
Lrobby99
July 20th, 2010
8:55 am
Stop the bean balls and play some professional baseball. Learn this time.
. Don
July 20th, 2010
8:56 am
Venters suspension for four games is terrible, and Cox’s suspension for this reason is not justified. But for the good of the team, is there any possiblity that Cox’s suspension (for whatever reason) could be extended until the end of October?
ArtyDodger
July 20th, 2010
9:08 am
Vinters gets 4 games for harpooning a sperm whale (Fielder), what a joke, hey somebody needs to tell Porkie to lose some blubber and then maybe he won’t freak out everytime someone comes inside. Heck if I was pitching to him, I’d throw it hard and inside towards that big L60 Dunlop he wears too. As for Cox, please no auditions for Pendleton tonight.
dap01
July 20th, 2010
9:15 am
Everyone needs to realize that Escobar made his own bed. Frank Wren did not have a horrible first half, Frank Wren did not have a bad attitude that was detrimental to the team during the first half.
I hope Escobar does well, it will hurt the Braves in the long run to see him do well during his career but remember Yunel caused the trade.
ArtyDodger
July 20th, 2010
9:19 am
I would hit Bob Gibson’s mom if she were crowding the plate.
timthebrave
July 20th, 2010
9:25 am
The real scoop is that Venters purposely hit Fielder but not for hitting the hr but for eating the chickfila cow on top of the stadium. Fielder said “he was glad to get back to milwaukee where he is allowed to eat the loser of the 7th inning hot dog race”.
Dewey
July 20th, 2010
9:32 am
Fielder has been hit 14 times this year. Where any of the other pitcher/managers suspened. venters has the fourth best era,etc in mlb as a reliever. Cox is an admirable manager. is this a conspiracy to try to help the Mets and Phillies gain on us as we enter to play the 1st place Padres! Come on-This ML baseball, not T-ball.
For the Love of the GAME
ArtyDodger
July 20th, 2010
9:37 am
I would hit Bud Selig’s mom if she were crowding the plate.
JR
July 20th, 2010
9:39 am
What Bill Hohn wrote should be the column the AJC puts up.
nick p
July 20th, 2010
9:46 am
so an umpire has to decide for himself the intent of a pitcher when there is a hitbatsman! they have a hard time getting their calls right on issues with fullproof in front of them, but now they have to reach deep into a pitcher’s psyche and pull out information on intent on their own! just a receipe for disaster if you ask me!
Venters should not have received a warning for the first inside pitch, should have gotten the warning on the hitbatsmen, and then perhaps tossed if it happened again!
On Sunday, I thought there was more intent after warning was given and a one of ours was hit, I would think as umpires you would think revenge or at least you had ammunition to think it was intentional as well!
JeanE
July 20th, 2010
10:00 am
It stinks we’ll be without Jonny for that many games but I’m glad he hit Potbelly Prince intentional or not, it sends a message and the rest of the league will respect that. Hopefully it’ll get knocked down by a game, 4 is too much. Go Braves, let’s get them Padres!!
ArtyDodger
July 20th, 2010
10:07 am
ArtyDodger wanna be…To the fool using my nickname…get a life bum and quit using my handle (See 9:08 am 7/20/10 was my post, all the mess later is from some sad loser) I was using this handle long before you dropped out of the womb, now be a good little pud and get your own name.
ArtyDodger
July 20th, 2010
10:26 am
Actually, Dave, for some reason this blog page has dropped your name and email into my screen. I posted the first time just to see if it would post, and the second time for 2 reasons: 1, to see if you’d notice; 2, because its fun. Something has gone wrong with the programming on this blog page that it put your email on my screen, and I have done you a favor by pointing it out. You’re welcome.
John
July 20th, 2010
10:30 am
Macha is little B****! He went a cried to MLB about it like a little girl. Cox on the other hand understood it was part of the game Sunday when our guys got hit back.
jesse james
July 20th, 2010
10:54 am
Where is Bob Gibson when we need him?
ArtyDodger
July 20th, 2010
11:15 am
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ArtyDodger
July 20th, 2010
11:17 am
Sorry, that was the fake one again; i hit the wrong thing. I logged out and back in, and the wrong name and email are still in my screen.
wjones
July 20th, 2010
11:22 am
“Braves Suck
July 19th, 2010
10:39 pm
Hey Braves, take your suspensions like a bunch of men and get over it. And all you whiny little people crying about it, get over it you losers.”
So we’re the losers, huh? They why are you hanging around OUR blog?
Tralfaz
July 20th, 2010
11:23 am
If another team’s pitcher had done that to one of our guys, we’d want him strung up. I pull for the Braves, but come on, sauce for the goose…
Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot
July 20th, 2010
11:31 am
Venters should have hit him in the mouth so hard that stupid looking ink would have flown off his fat neck. You got hit by a pitch so what?
Cry me a river you bloated B!+ch! Yes, Krispy Kremes are delicious but you don’t have to eat all of them just because you have the ability.
What a whale and a disgrace to our pastime. That fat blimp makes David Wells look like Mr. Universe.
BTW, What kind of pompous moron names their kid “Prince?” I guess the Fielder family could be royalty in the buffet slaying circuit.
dap01
July 20th, 2010
12:24 pm
The Brewers managers is bush league. He is not Big league material. He is a cry baby.
I hope he fails.
Add Seymour
July 20th, 2010
12:28 pm
Posing??? Fielder didn’t “pose” anymore than anyone else does after home runs. All this sounds like a bunch of Little Leaguers who are crying over someone bombing our pitching. GROW UP and pitch better! If our pitchers would do something about throwing meatballs up to the plate, maybe we wouldn’t have to worry about this stuff!
LostCause
July 20th, 2010
12:32 pm
Fortunately Medlen is available for relief appearances foe a few days. I hopw they are smart enough to realize that and don’t appeal.
DP
July 20th, 2010
12:42 pm
I don’t get all the hatred for Prince Fielder. The suspensions for Cox and Venters are warranted. The claim that Venters wasn’t throwing at Fielder is laughable. The first pitch was behind Fielder and just over his head. The second one was 2-3 feet off the plate and hit him in the middle of the back.
If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.
Meemaw
July 20th, 2010
12:59 pm
Since the Brewers manager says that the team has been hit 47 times this year, maybe the MLB should look at them. Sounds like they are crowding home plate or putting their bodies into the balls.
It was really pathetic looking at the ump escort Fielder to first base. Bless his heart.
Hoosier Aaron
July 20th, 2010
1:55 pm
Fielder got hit because he is a punk. In fact, that’s why he has been hit 14 times this year. Howard 6 times, Votto 4 times and Pujols 1. C’mon, it’s not because he hits home runs. Act like a punk, get treated like a punk. We’re obviously not the only team tired of seeing him pull his shirt out of his pants crossing home plate. Celebrate in the dugout or take your medicine.
wjones
July 20th, 2010
2:38 pm
“PDOG
July 20th, 2010
1:24 am
i hope that what Escobar is doing will make Wren think a bit before giving away the store again. Escobar will hit 300 for the rest of the year with 10 homers and 40 rbis. By Oct I sure hope you all wont be saying what if Wren had kept him.”
You are getting all giddy because he had a good 4-game series? He had a good opening day, too. Followed by 3 and a half months of mostly suck. He has hit 2 homers in Toronto, which does us as much good as the 17 that Alex Gonzalez hit for them before coming here. Yunel is an emotional player, and he is riding high on emotion right now. We all know how he is capable of playing when riding high; also when riding low. But don’t get all starry-eyed over 4 games; baseball is a marathon, not a sprint.
wjones
July 20th, 2010
2:40 pm
Hoosier Aaron
“July 20th, 2010
1:55 pm
Fielder got hit because he is a punk. In fact, that’s why he has been hit 14 times this year. Howard 6 times, Votto 4 times and Pujols 1. C’mon, it’s not because he hits home runs. Act like a punk, get treated like a punk. We’re obviously not the only team tired of seeing him pull his shirt out of his pants crossing home plate. Celebrate in the dugout or take your medicine.”
…AND he crowds the plate (note the body armor of expectation he wears), AND he sprawls out in the batter’s box, AND he weighs 300 pounds. Put those three together, and how do you NOT hit him?
Andy
July 20th, 2010
3:33 pm
Hey cry, I dont use more than one name. I will take what ever you have to throw at me. Considering that every conversation we have had I have owned you to the point of you having to change the subject to Prince is fat or Prince is a crybaby, I will continue to use this one. I should have figured you would have made something like this up, considering most of the things you say as facts I disprove. Good luck in the future cry, hopefully I have outed you to the rest of the blog as a fool who should not be listened to.
To everyone else, good luck this season and in the postseason. You guys did it the right way, sorry Grandpa Ken hade to go to the media.
Corky Miller's Beer Gut
July 20th, 2010
5:44 pm
Is there a full moon tonight? Every blog has people going at it over lame things.