Quotes from Braves (plus Brewers’ irate Fielder & Macha)
BOBBY COX
On Hudson
“He walked Edmonds on four pitches. I don’t know if he pitched around Inglett or not, because Weeks had never hit him. [Weeks] came in at 0-for-15, got a base hit tonight, little ground ball up the middle.
“I don’t know. He was throwing hard. Pitches to Weeks were 92, 93, 94. But Weeks has got a good eye, too.”
On the Fielder HBP and ejections
“I didn’t even know they warned him, to be honest with you. We didn’t hit Braun intentionally in Milwaukee, at all. We didn’t hit Fielder [intentionally] last night at all. And we didn’t hit him tonight intentionally, at all. And that is the truth.
“But from their perspective in the other dugout… Wolf threw one up in Mac’s chin last night, and they hit [Alex] Gonzalez [Friday] and I said, well, that’s OK. We had it coming, even though it wasn’t intentional. That squares it.
“I don’t know what happened to Venters. The first one was a slider, and the next one just hit him. I don’t blame Prince for being mad, at all. But it’s not intentional.
“But the umpires had no choice. They issued the warning and then we hit him. And the one last night, you know, we hit him after a home run. It looks intentional. So…”
“I don’t know why they issued a warning [tonight]. It was a breaking ball that got away.”
Losing two straight at home
“We’re not used to it.”
TIM HUDSON
“I just wasn’t as crisp as I would have liked to have been out there tonight, especially in that seventh inning. Just didn’t make some pitches. They were patient, and I just didn’t make pitches when I had to.”
After Fielder’s homer, did you become more conservative?
“No, not after his homer. I wasn’t conservative at all. I was just trying to make pitches. They, all of a sudden, looked like they didn’t want to swing the bat. For whatever reason, I don’t know. And then I pitched myself into trouble and didn’t make a pitch whenever I needed to.”
On giving up runs on walks
“It’s definitely frustrating. You want those guys to try to earn their way back in the game, and I pretty much handed it to them on a platter.
“It’s tough. Obviously the homer from Fielder – he can hurt you. He’s a dangerous hitter, and I didn’t make a pitch. I tried a back-door cutter and it just came over the middle. It wasn’t entirely the best pitch selections in that inning, and it wasn’t the best location for any of them.”
JONNY VENTERS
On hitting Fielder
“Just a couple of pitches that got away from me. The first one was a breaking ball, and the second one was a sinker that just ran away from me a little bit. It just took off on me.
“It just sailed on me. It is what it is. I tried to throw a little bit too hard and pulled off on it. It just got away from me.”
Surprised at the warning?
“I was a little bit, because the first pitch was a breaking ball. The last thing I want to do there is hit him. It’s a three-run ballgame. Both pitches just got away from me a little bit. I know it looked bad, but it’s nothing [intentional].”
“I was going to go right at him, and unfortunately it got away from me.”
“I know he wasn’t real happy about it. He has to know it wasn’t intentional. Just a couple of pitches that got away from me.”
“You’re not throwing to hit guys. I wanted to go out and keep the ballgame where it was, a three-run ballgame.”
MATT DIAZ
“After last night, Randy Wolf had his way with me, it was nice to get a couple of hits tonight.”
On Hudson’s seventh
“That’s where Huddy’s at his best. Every now and again he’ll get up against the wall and he makes that pitch, where it’s a double-play and he’s out of the inning.
“You’ve got to respect Fielder’s power, and he delivered for them tonight. And then the inning kind of fell apart after that.”
Any bad blood between these teams?
“No. I played against Prince in the minor leagues. He loves to get his arms extended. So people pitch him in, and he gets hit, and he doesn’t like it. No one likes to get hit.
“He’s doing his best, like when Shaq gets in someone’s face when they do the whole hack-a-Shaq thing, he’s doing his best to try to keep people from pounding him in. But you’ve got to pitch him in. If he gets his arms extended, he showed what he can do tonight.
“So I don’t think there’s any bad blood or anything like that. Just a case of, we’re going to keep going in and try to beat you in. You might get hit every now and then. Unfortunately for him, he has. We’re down by three there, we’re in the ballgame. We’re not trying to put the leadoff hitter on at all.”
This (losing 3 out of 4) feel like a malaise?
“I think last night we tipped our cap to Wolf. He did a great job last night, and their offense got on Tommy a little bit. Tonight Huddy was dominant for six innings, and then we just had one bad inning.
“So I don’t think there’s a malaise. I think tomorrow’s game is big. We’ve got an off day the next day, and we have a chance to tie the series and keep that streak of non-loss series at home. So tomorrow hopefully we’ll come out and show there’s not a lull coming off the All-Star break and hopefully get on Parra early.”
PRINCE FIELDER
“I can’t worry about that. My kids are here. I’m tired of being the one filmed.”
“If that’s what they gotta do, then whatever, I’m here to play baseball. They can do whatever they want.”
Does he know of a reason why he might be hit?
“No and I really don’t care. Like I said, they can do what they gotta do.”
KEN MACHA, Brewers manager
“I don’t know what’s going on there. Bob Watson ought to take a look at it. Braun hits a home run, they drill him. He hits a home run, his next at-bat they drill him.
“That’s evidence enough for me for some guys to get suspended for quite a bit.”
“Now, if they’re just wild, tell them to get the ball over the plate.”
“We’re respecting what’s going on. Hit the ball, run around the bases.”
“I’ve always said that our guys dig in. They’re not moving. That’s why they’re good hitters. Appearantly they want to pitch Prince inside but in the middle of the back, that’s a little more than inside.”
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245 comments Add your comment
J
July 17th, 2010
11:42 pm
cowards
J
July 17th, 2010
11:42 pm
2nd
ArkyTech
July 17th, 2010
11:48 pm
Yeah, Macha, after 30 years of managing Cox decided to start head hunting against your sorry team in the 2nd half of his final season. The Braves have gone out of their way to avoid confrontation since Cox has been here, probably to the teams detriment (why didn’t we ever drill Howard when he was hitting 2 bombs a game against us???!!!)
rico43
July 17th, 2010
11:51 pm
I would love for Bobby to get in Macha’s face Sunday and tell the nobody off. This is about as insulting to Cox as anything I can think of. The Brewers? Who the hell are the Brewers?
scottbravesfan
July 17th, 2010
11:52 pm
If you want to crowd the plate you are going to get hit. Prince is all over the plate as is Braun. Move back and you won’t get hit. Venters threw him a breaking ball it just sailed. No one in the big leagues is going to try and hit a person with a 80 mile and hour breaking ball.
scottbravesfan
July 17th, 2010
11:53 pm
The Milwaukee Brewers, they make the playoffs once every 26 years.
Not a band wagon fan
July 17th, 2010
11:56 pm
Prince needs to be hit after all that crap he said a out his dad publicly.
AJ
July 17th, 2010
11:59 pm
Ken Macha is a tool. He says his guys are good hitters. HA! Thats funny. They are one of the worse teams in the Majors. Ken Macha will be gone after this year and Willie Randolph will take over. Dig in Ken, its going to be a long second half.
awesomeo
July 18th, 2010
12:00 am
Hitting hitter s for hitting a hittable homerun is just dumb and dangerous. There are other situations to bean a guy but not for hitting the pitcher around. Venters says he didnt mean to so i believe him.
and we should not be beaning Howard for 2 HRs, pitch around him or pitch better against him, dont bean him cause u sucked.
wiley
July 18th, 2010
12:03 am
F the Brewers. They can enjoy watching us as we make the post season and they spend October watching it on TV. Quit being babies!
Dude
July 18th, 2010
12:06 am
Two things Fielder needs to know.
First, lose some weight and then you won’t take up a complete batters box.
Second, the next time you are running towards second, you better get down because Gonzalez has some payback due for the cheap-a** take out slide.
What a thug.
Hal
July 18th, 2010
12:10 am
The tool is Cox. Its a continuous display of trash baseball. Then he goes out and lies about it. The idea that guys are getting hit in the leg or the back because they crowd the plate is the same as admitting to lying. The balls are flying nowhere near the strike zone. Its just classless, dirty cowardice. Braves are going nowhere in the playoffs, that is if they get there.
bravesfaninCLT
July 18th, 2010
12:14 am
Ken Macha is so stupid the last thing that the braves want to do is hit your sorry ass player and then get suspended for it.Not like your team who want make the playoff the Braves are in 1st place and have a 5 games lead.And if anyone should be suspended it should be Prince .DOB did you not ask bobby Or any of the players .What they did think of Prince in the top of 8 after he got hit.on that DP it seem like he try to take Alex Gonzalez Legs out.I thought that was very dangers and dirty play by Fielder
the tool is actually Hal
July 18th, 2010
12:15 am
<—-Read the title…it says it all.
The Dude
July 18th, 2010
12:15 am
Occum’s Razor people (I know most of you have no clue what that is). Does it makes sense to put a guy on when you’re down three and leading the majors in late inning comebacks? No. Second, my post name is not a knock on the “Dude” who already posted. I always post as “The Dude”.
ChopChop
July 18th, 2010
12:16 am
Show some class Braves fans. We all know that if things were reversed, we’d hope that Bobby would say what Macha is saying. Gotta protect his players. We’d be pissed too if Heyward or Brian kept getting dotted.
Mitchell
July 18th, 2010
12:18 am
scottbravesfan
July 17th, 2010
11:53 pm
The Milwaukee Brewers, they make the playoffs once every 26 years.
Of course, they’ve been there more recently than we have. It’s funny when you think about all the teams in pro sports who have made the playoffs since the Braves last post-season appearance.
I mean, the Cincinnati Bengals have been to the playoffs more times in the last five years than the Braves. The Arizona Cardinals were in a Super Bowl in the time between the Braves last division title.
Let’s see, what other historically God awful teams have made the playoffs?
The Mets
The New Orleans Saints
The Tampa Bay Rays
The Los Angeles Clippers
The Atlanta Falcons
New York Jets
The Cubs
We’ve had our first black president since the Braves were last in the playoffs. We found out who Deep Throat is.
Actually, as it turns out it’s not funny to think about this stuff.
Marty
July 18th, 2010
12:20 am
aj… you are an idiot… brewers have one of the best offenses in the national league… not a band wagon fan… you also know that prince’s dad wasn’t around for him because of his gambling problems? they haven’t talked in years, i don’t think prince is the one to blame for that… his dad taught him the game, and he’s publicly stated that he respects his dad for that, but don’t get caught up in issues you don’t know and don’t understand…. and rico… the brewers are where the braves came from, so don’t hate. i have no problem with atlanta, and i hope u guys take the east coz i like watchin u guys. prince has been hit more than anyone in the national league, yeah, he crowds the plate, but back of the numbers is not where you wanna miss with a pitch, intentional or not. u can understand frustration from a sub .500 team… like us, you’ve guys have had sub .500 records for 2 of the last 4 years… lets just try to beat up on the yanks guys… not each other… regardless, lookin forward to tomorrows game… should be a hot one!
bravesfaninCLT
July 18th, 2010
12:20 am
ChopChop no one should show any class.When Ken Macha IQ is near 0
Really?
July 18th, 2010
12:22 am
Really, Ken Macha? Something funny’s going on here? Yeah, OK. I’d think it would be a little more of a big deal if it were a sort of trend or pattern coming from the Braves. I also think he would need to be throwing the ball 15-20 mph faster and without a significant break to it if he were trying to send a message like that. I’ve always liked Prince Fielder in the past, but good lord, what a douche. Same thing goes for Macha. Neither of them have any business making these comments. They should be ashamed.
Alpha9
July 18th, 2010
12:23 am
Hal you are obvisouly an idiot No Bobby Cox team has ever played dirty baseball.Do you realize the amount of control it would take to hit Prince Fielder’s fat ass in the leg or arm being that his entire upper body takes up the box.I noticed that Cory Hart didn’t get hit once..and he has been killing the Braves..That’s might be because he doesn’t crowd the plate or…He will be in a Braves Uni in 2 weeks anyway..Either way I feel sorry for the people that know you and your family because you are a embarassment with no common sense or logic
bravesfaninCLT
July 18th, 2010
12:23 am
From MLBTradeRumors
Rizzo Doesn’t Like Offers For Dunn
By Mike Axisa [July 17 at 8:02pm CST]
Nationals’ GM Mike Rizzo doesn’t like the offers he’s received for Adam Dunn, a person close to the team told MLB.com’s Bill Ladson and Faran Fagen. As a result, the source doesn’t believe the team will trade the first baseman before the July 31st non-waiver trade deadline. It is unclear exactly which teams have approached Rizzo and made an offer for the lefty power threat
Really?
July 18th, 2010
12:26 am
Oh, and on that note, some of those AJ Burnett pitches today looked pretty vicious….on the Ken Macha/Prince Fielder/little girl scale.
bravesfaninCLT
July 18th, 2010
12:27 am
You know the thing with Prince Fielder is that he show up in the wrong.When he come to Bat he act like Hi I’m better then everyone else. With said maybe it just me but it sure seem like he kind of a player who think he is better then everyone else
Bravissimo
July 18th, 2010
12:28 am
The one thing u forgot to mention about all those teams…with the exception of the Saints…they all lost in the playoffs…Obama is a onetrick pony and deep throat died.
Tomas
July 18th, 2010
12:32 am
So did Venters say it was intentional?
CBritt
July 18th, 2010
12:37 am
“(Fielder) has been hit a lot, but he digs right in there and doesn’t budge,” Macha said. “He just doesn’t like when somebody does it on purpose. I don’t blame him. Everybody’s trying to make a living, and this type of mentality puts everybody in jeopardy — myself, the other team, the players on the other team. So, to me, giving a guy a $500 fine and a two-day suspension is not enough. This type of stuff should be cleaned up.” (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/brewers/2009-08-05-prince-furious_N.htm)
That’s what Macha said after his 1B charged the Dodgers’ clubhouse last season–sounds a little similar to what he said tonight.
Intentional beaning or not (I take anything the players say with grain of salt in these situations), Fielder hasn’t made any friends on his trek to becoming one of the better hitters in the game with his…let’s say flamboyant displays of ecstasy following an individual performance (ask Barry Zito and the rest of the San Francisco Giants).
The huge uppercut is one thing–but punctuating that with a foot-and-a-half vertical and bat slam (both on the two-run double Friday and the homer tonight) has to rub some people the wrong way (it’s showboating, plain and simple).
When Yunel PO’d the Marlins enough with his incessant bat tosses, they threw at him–just because Fielder is of a more elite class of player doesn’t mean the dudes throwing at him should be struck down with an iron fist.
But, hey, maybe this is just getting blown way too far out of proportion (I’m just coming from the view that the intensity level should be in-between the levels the Braves and Brewers feel).
Marty
July 18th, 2010
12:37 am
tomas… he threw the first pitch at fielders head… the 1-0 pitch at his back… it may have been different if the full count pitch then hit him, but there’s no doubt that that’s intentional… call it dirty, but i know the brewers have done it before too… baseball is a beautiful game!
Marty
July 18th, 2010
12:44 am
i agree with you too britt… but if the braves are throwing at fielder for his off balance bat toss, why isn’t anyone throwing at pujols for watching every single homer he’s ever hit? teams love to beat up on the hot head, which im not going to deny that prince is. kinda the same reason that a.j. pryzynski gets whomped on every close play at home.
scottbravesfan
July 18th, 2010
1:06 am
Marty,
It looked dirty but the first ball was a breaking ball that did not break it was only 80 MPH no one drills someone intentionally with that. Plus Venters had no reason to drill Fielder he didn’t show Hudson up when he hit the homerun. As for yesterday Hanson hits everyone the guy throws inside. I don’t blame Fielder for being pissed it hurts to get hit no matter how fast the ball is being thrown but if you crowd the plate you are going to get hit.
Scott
July 18th, 2010
1:07 am
@ Hal……. Your a dumb ass. That is all.
northbeach Scott
July 18th, 2010
1:14 am
Pitchers have to be able to throw inside and own the plate. Hitters like round boy Prince lean over the plate at their own peril. Amazingly enough, that means they get hit more often than the average bear.
Interesting that Macha would try and stir this stuff up when his job is so clearly in jeopardy with the underachieving Brewers. Coincidence? I think not.
Perhaps the bean ball controversy will help mitigate for the “Mitchell Effect” of Braves fans staying away in droves because of the two home losses. If the Braves lose tomorrow, the Mitchell Effect predicts that for Tuesday the Braves will have no more than 1400 in the stands and the world will end in 2012.
Andy
July 18th, 2010
1:15 am
Hey guys, I am a Brewers fan and I just wanted to see what you guys thought of the goings on tonite? There are some things to take into consideration from the Brewers POV.
1.) It is pretty funny how Feilder hit a HR and gets thrown at twice in a row.
2.) Fielder slid into second and touched the base. Come on with that cheap slide stuff. You had to know that he was going to go into second hard after being hit the last two games. If it was one of yours, you would be saying the same thing.
3.) Rickie Weeks and Prince Fielder are one and three in the major in HBP, if you are going to nibble on the outside corners, guys are going to start to lean on you. The Brewers are going to have to back up PF on this one.
4.) If Cox or Venters actually said they were trying to hit Prince they would each get huge fines and a week or two off. What are they supposed to say, wether or not they did it on purpose they would give the same answer.
Brewers fans are praying that both teams dont get warned before the game so Parra and his mid 90s fastball to Jason Hewards back dosnt get him run.
bravos fan
July 18th, 2010
1:16 am
prince’s belly crowds the plate… i don’t dislike the brewers but i was at the game tonight and it was probably the least professional performances i’ve seen in a while. umpiring was a joke and prince is a cry baby. he should go worry more about his contract and stop complaining… like someone is really out to get him and the brewers… yeah right.
and macha… haha. worst manager in the league.
northbeach Scott
July 18th, 2010
1:23 am
Andy,
Braves fans took a vote and nominated Kenshin Kawakami to start and throw at Ryan Braun’s elbow to put him out for another month and if that does not work, we can have someone else deliver a heater to the belly of the fat boy Prince.
Brewers are our biatches.
Andy
July 18th, 2010
1:26 am
Thanks Scott, I was just looking for an intelligent Braves POV and you clearly gave it to me.
Oh yeah and that thing about the Brewers being the Braves biatches… You do realize that we are going to try to win the series tomorrow against Lowe right?
P. Bull Terrier
July 18th, 2010
1:32 am
If you’re too much of a fat slob to get out of the way of an 80 mph pitch, you deserve to get hit.
northbeach Scott
July 18th, 2010
1:32 am
Boy Andy, would winning a series from the Braves help you cheese-heads get over being out of the pennant race this year. Win or lose, tomorrow, the Braves are in in it.
Your manager will be out of a job by Sept 1. I think you guys have bigger problems than worring about some perceived slight because one of our rookie pitchers lost a couple of pitches. You are taking this too seriously. We just don’t care to have irrelevant teams stir things up, because their own internal issues.
Brian H.
July 18th, 2010
1:37 am
Do they have oxygen in the dugout for Fielder after he gets done trotting around the bases for a home run? Dude, seriously, try some cardio. Lay off the cheeseburgers. I hope Gonzalez throws it right between Fielder’s eyes tomorrow if he has a chance.
How about the Brewers’ relief pitcher that sprints out of the bullpen to the mound? With man boobs and a gut like that, he might want to jog.
Macha??? Really??? Just shut up!!!
Andy
July 18th, 2010
1:40 am
Scott, I hope you are right about our manager. The whole state wants him gone because he never backs up his players. I guess we probably do have some bigger issues than this but this one is going to be resolved the quickest.
If you think that this is just about one of your rookie pitchers than you should take note that this is the third time you have hit Braun and Fielder in the last four games. Tommy also put Braun out for a few games after which he went into a big slump that he still hasnt recovered from. I didnt come on here so some jerk could talk trash to me that I already knew, I thought I would see what the other side was thinking, but I guess that cant be done.
Stay classy ATL
Marty
July 18th, 2010
1:49 am
heard ya scottsbravesfan… and im not worried about the 84 mph breaking ball that missed, im more worried about the followup 94 mph fastball that hit him in the back… dudes got a 1.28 era, he shouldn’t be missing by that much twice (though he’s walked 21 in 42 innings)… can’t say that wasn’t the plan from the get go.
Marty
July 18th, 2010
1:54 am
p.s. brian h…. fielder’s a veggie… i know it hasn’t been long (or very effective for that matter) but the fat man can move better than chipper can! and don’t be droolin over todd coffey’s man boobs, bobby cox’s should suffice for ya guys!
doubled
July 18th, 2010
1:57 am
Brewers get beaned-Phils get banged.Think Phils have better idea.
Sick of It
July 18th, 2010
2:05 am
Well buddy, if you dig in, you’re gonna get hit. That’s why they’re good pitchers.
Don!
July 18th, 2010
2:08 am
What’s funny is that 20 years ago, this wouldn’t have been an issue. Batters got hit and they knew why. Pitchers have to keep them honest. Now you have folks stepping up to the plate, wearing enough body armor to play free safety in the NFL and upset if they get busted in the butt for leaning in.
The Brewers have a number of players that take the same approach to the batter’s box. And the Braves’ pitchers have always been taught to throw to both sides of the plate. So what happened here was bound to happen. The fact that Fielder and Macha opened their mouths about it show how little they both know about the game — other than the narrow perspective of their own issues.
If you want to lean over the plate, either develop faster reflexes — or expect to get hit.
Later,
Don
Andy
July 18th, 2010
2:09 am
If you dig in? The first pitch was at his head, and the second was in his back. Come on.
Andy
July 18th, 2010
2:13 am
@Don,
The Brewers do get hit and the do understand that they will get hit when they step in. The problem comes when you hit a guy on Friday, and then throw one at his head followed by one in the back the very next day. If you watched the game, your pitchers did nothing but work the outside corners. Both sides of the plate? Give me a break, the only time you guys came inside was when you hit Prince.
Sick of It
July 18th, 2010
2:19 am
Wow. Then bring it to the mound. Guess we can keep on hitting you nancy boys all year and you’re just gonna cry about how somebody should do something.
FresnoCaBravesFan
July 18th, 2010
2:20 am
Hey Andy, sorry man us Braves fans are pretty defensive about our boys. Honestly though man, in trying to be as unbiased as possible, I really can’t tell whether the beanings have been intentional. Part of me thinks they may be, but I really gotta believe we’d go after Hart who’s been killing us (unless we’re gonna trade for him and don’t want to hurt him, hmmmm). I can totally see why the Brewers and their fans believe there is some intention behind them, it’s a PRETTY BIG coincidence for Fielder to get hit two days in a row following Brewer home runs. But Fielder also is a hefty dude who really crowds the plate. See what I mean man? I keep going back and forth believing it was intentional and then thinking of a counter argument to change my mind and then going back to my original thought….I just don’t know man, and I totally expect one of our guys to get beamed tomorrow and wouldn’t blame you guys. I just hope nobody gets hurt. Oh, and by the way, warnings were already issued during tonight’s game for tomorrow’s game, so if anyone decides to start beaming people, you bet your “A” we’ll see some ejections.
Adam
July 18th, 2010
2:36 am
It’s baseball, if you step in dig in, shut your trap and take the hit. Your not hurt, and your season isn’t over. If your a@@ is too lazy to get out of the way, then maybe you should retire. Maybe that kind of shape is ok with the Brewers, a second tier team. Look Prince is a great hitter, but if you get plunked you get plunked, Just take it and show some class by taking your base and moving on. The problem goes far beyond Prince, Macha, Venters and Cox. Players are to worried about making millions and feel they are above others cause they make more. They all have responsibility to be good role models. Too bad Prince will never be a role model.
Adam
July 18th, 2010
2:38 am
Plus I don’t think any pitcher aims for any hitters head on purpose. That just isn’t going to happen.
Marty
July 18th, 2010
2:39 am
heard fresno! gonna be a good one! and we get just as defensive in milwaukee as you guys in ATL. The only difference is the only one who is going to do something about it is the fans, we know how our manager works… as for don, i agree, prince crowds the plate and has been hit more than anyone in the national league besides his teammate (weeks) and marlon byrd, but, for arguments sake, mind telling me where his padding is (other than his weight)? Its not like back in the day with brady clark who wore an elbow pad just so he could lean in… prince wears no pads buddy
brewers47
July 18th, 2010
2:43 am
wow, I have never heard such stupid braves fans!!!!! You talk like you are the best team in mlb you are far from that, come back to reality. Don’t hate on the brewers because they have fun playing ball and show it on the field. that was an intentional hit, and if you think it wasn’t you are just a dumb as cubs fans. You should be lucky that prince didn’t go after your classless team. Why don’t you try to win the game instead of trying to end a players year with a possible injury. If your players were hit 47 times this year you would be pissed too. Go watch soccer because you have no idea about the game of baseball it’s clear to all that all you can do is talk out of your ass.
JTH
July 18th, 2010
2:44 am
The Brewers and felines, kittens, or cats. Take your pick.
Eat another donut Prince and then go make some doves cry.
IlliniBrave
July 18th, 2010
2:51 am
Hey “screwers47″: actually, soccer is a fantastic game – and you show your cheese-head ignorance with your stupid comments disparaging the sport. Why don’t you go watch a snowmobile race or an ice-fishing contest?
Andy
July 18th, 2010
2:57 am
Fresno, thanks for the response. The way I see it the first time is ok, players tha crowd the plate are going to get hit (Ryan Braun, out for two games ). The second time (Fielder on Friday), I have to start worring about it but can let it go. Then to back that up with a curve that was head high (could have just missed his spot) followed by one in the shoulder blade, is too many OOPs I missed my spots without any payback. Wether he ment to hit him or not, it sure looked like it, and I think they guy is going to hear from the league, not because he hit him but because he threw on (intentional or not) at Fielders head and backed it up with one in the back.
Just imagine if we had hit Heward and put him out for a couple games and then the next time we played we hit Chipper on back to back nights, and barely missing his head once?
Marty
July 18th, 2010
3:04 am
illinibrave… don’t bring icefishing and snowmobiling into this, they have both appeared on espn. dude never said anything about soccer not being great… why don’t you go back to watching the peoria chiefs and leave MLB to people who know what they’re talking about
Marty
July 18th, 2010
3:07 am
jth your comments are confusing…
brewers47
July 18th, 2010
3:12 am
litttlebrave, I would rather do that than watch the braves, go try to spread your family tree out instead of it going strait up. for you info, fishing is big all over the world and every place that gets snow, there are snowmobiles. I am not going to rip on the south because there are a lot of decent people there that understand the game. so take your game of soccer and go to europe, because no one wants to hear you stupidity.
FresnoCaBravesFan
July 18th, 2010
3:15 am
Brewers47— 1)yes, we were trying to end Fielder’s season with an 80-mph slider….and 2) if by soccer you meant the world cup, that ended a week ago. Andy and Marty may be Brewers fans on a Braves forum but at least they know what they’re talking about…do the same please.
brewers47
July 18th, 2010
3:17 am
the second pitch was not a slider, that was clear to everyone including ESPN.
Delmar
July 18th, 2010
3:39 am
Watch the replay, the second ball clearly gets away from him based on the tailing action it has. It starts off at the inside of the plate. Balls have that kind of action when they get away. It happens. As far as Tommy hitting Braun earlier in the year and Fielder yesterday, check the stats, dude pitches inside a lot, and leads the league in hit batters. Venters has thrown a few balls to the backstop before.
Someone earlier said they should throw at Heyward, no use, he doesn’t feel pain and delivers Heymakers like he was named after them. He’s too controlled to charge the mound, but if you wanna go, I’m sure he could take everyone on the Brewers team.
I love it when they show Prince’s tantrums in the dugout breaking bats and punches benches on SportsCenter. Now that is real entertainment.
Marty
July 18th, 2010
3:39 am
u too fres! always nice to talk some baseball no matter who’s right or wrong. best of luck the rest of the way, and especially tomorrow… i have a feeling both sides will need it
Marty
July 18th, 2010
3:44 am
and delmar, didn’t see anything like that tonight… but it doesn’t surprise me that you like tantrums (ahem… bobby cox….132 ejections… or is it 133 after tonight?)
IlliniBrave
July 18th, 2010
3:49 am
Hilarious to see the defensive reactions from cheddar-heads re ice-fishing and snowmobiling. And then implying that those sports are more interesting and more followed than soccer! Uh… the World Cup was seen by over half of the people in the entire planet – but evidently no one up in Wisconsin!
Marty
July 18th, 2010
3:53 am
you seem to know a lot more about soccer than baseball illini, perhaps you’ve traveled to the wrong page?
brewers47
July 18th, 2010
3:53 am
Any ML pitcher has better control than that, 2 in a row? We will wait and see what the league has to say about it when the suspensions come out.
Marty
July 18th, 2010
3:54 am
and spain won 1-0 in the 114th minute… we all saw it
IlliniBrave
July 18th, 2010
3:54 am
@Marty: I have been watching baseball my whole life. And I know quite a bit about the game. But evidently you all don’t, or you would not be getting your panties in a wad when your double-wide 1B, who takes up the entire batters’ box, gets hit by a couple of pitches. The only guy on the Braves who was as fat as Princie was Dan Kolb – another one of your cheddar-eating tub-a-goos!
Marty
July 18th, 2010
3:57 am
no one said anything about soccer being less followed than baseball, although, i will say that there were more teams in the inaugural year of the world baseball classic than the original 13 in the world cup, but we all know that those were different times
Marty
July 18th, 2010
4:00 am
hey. even hank gained weight in his waning years! and get this… dan kolb… born in… oh yeah… STERLING, IL
Marty
July 18th, 2010
4:01 am
way ta make fun of one of your own!
brewers47
July 18th, 2010
4:03 am
That’s the problem if you would have played the game instead of sitting on the couch trying to figure out what next dumb comment you want to say you might not be so ignorant. Apparently you did not see the hit? the pitch was 3 feet behind the plate Dumb Ass.
Marty
July 18th, 2010
4:05 am
i spose that only works assuming you’re from illinois. and hey, plenty of good pitchers can strike prince out… in fact… down and away is a good start… not high and at the head/back
square leg
July 18th, 2010
4:21 am
I’m digging the Blog tonite. I unfortunately didn’t get game see the game down here in Oz but I have to say getting hit is part of the game. You crowd the plate expect to get hit, just take your base and get over it. Brush back pitches , chin music etc are just part of the game. Guys get pissed and then they get even or get over it. It works itself out. All this crap about getting the league invovled and suspensions, that is where you Brewer fans sound like whingers.
square leg
July 18th, 2010
4:30 am
I for one would lie to extend an invitation to all you Brew Crew fans to hang around the Blog more cuz it has been Spicy! Game tomorrow should be interesting eh?
Just for conversation sake …. Ir Prince were to charge the mound, how many breaks would he need to catch his breath?
brewers47
July 18th, 2010
4:31 am
it had nothing to do with crowding the plate watch the replay, the pitch was 3 feet behind the plate and 3 feet above the strike zone, It’s not whining, play the game and pitch the ball!!!! We don’t want players hurt because of some ass hole that can handle his emotions on the field and I am sure you don’t either. If you think any pitch like that was just playing ball watch the UFC not baseball.
square leg
July 18th, 2010
4:39 am
As I said I didn’t see the pitch, but what i do know is that Venters is a rookie and does let a few get away. That being said, let the players sort it out. Its baseball not litigation
Marty
July 18th, 2010
4:43 am
ha! Lowe v. Parra, i like it! Lowe, an established lefty amidst a .500 season against Parra, who’s looked good recently, but still had command and confidence issues, should be a good one! i predict whoever scores first will win… Bullpens have been pretty decent this series, and seeing as the Braves have the off day tomorrow, gotta say they got the edge there… pitched Loe 2 nights in a row, may be time to give him a rest… and i think i misquoted bobby cox’s ejections… 157? is that right?
square leg
July 18th, 2010
4:46 am
brewer47
I understand why your frustrated, I mean the braves have been also rans for the last couple of years now. I mean you can’t win every year. Unless if course you were the braves from 91 until 05. Buck up chum, you will more than likely only have the fresh prince for few more weeks then you won’t have to worry about his fat ass crowding the plate anymore , and can go back to watching your team rebuild. Good luck with that
Marty
July 18th, 2010
4:49 am
funny… i remember this problem occuring with the brewers last year… we got in a bit of a bean ball war with the pile of poops… pittsburgh… and it was jeff karstens… another young pitcher who hit ryan braun… teams aren’t about to send their established vets out there to do the dirty work… they’re gonna send the rook that they can blame the pitch just “got away” from… venters has control issues, but i said it before, the 1.28 era speaks leagues about the stuff this guy has… two pitches missing that badly? (and you can argue all you want about the first pitch getting away, it was still at his head, followed up with one at the back)… u can understand the frustration
Marty
July 18th, 2010
4:51 am
don’t forget, we got prince next year too, we’re not gonna settle for something we can get him for next year… plus, no suppan, no davis, no riske, no hall contract… we’ve gotta ton of money coming for a small market team… lets say we trade bushy or corey… no saying that we can’t offer prince something he may bite on, i mean, look at the guy, he loves to bite1
square leg
July 18th, 2010
4:54 am
Marty, I reckon its an important game tomorrow for the Braves. Lowe is in the spot of having to be the stopper. I’m not sure that is the pitcher i have confidence in that position. Parra has pitched well recently. I can’t figure out the brewers staff. One game they look like Koufax and the next they remind me of Kawakami. All that offense and all you guys want is a little consistent pitching
square leg
July 18th, 2010
4:55 am
well said Marty
square leg
July 18th, 2010
4:59 am
I think Fielder wants to be in a big market. I don’t think even if Milwaukee offers the most that he still won’t bolt. Just a feeling Isn’t Boros his agent?
Marty
July 18th, 2010
5:01 am
consistent pitching? hell, i’d take a consistent rotation! i got this bad feeling that the brewers are just trying to bank on teams “not getting” our rotation what with the 6 man rotation including 4 lefties, and chris capuano set to start thursday… who hasn’t won a game he’s started since 2007… not something u wanna bank on, but honestly, all i have to say in the matter is that the brewers shouldn’t be buyers or sellers this year… stay the norm, keep the core, sign prince and corey next year, who will be more valuable to a contender then rather than now, and hope we can get a good enough arm that we can make it to the playoffs and let both go to free agency… i hate to say it, but the rebuilding has got to be in 2 years, not now… not when we have one more eligible year with the guys that can take us to the playoffs
Marty
July 18th, 2010
5:03 am
scott boras (boooo) is his agent… which does suck because we all know how he loves free agency… that’s why i’m sayin, it’s next year or bust for the crew… trading a key piece for a maybe just won’t cut it right now
square leg
July 18th, 2010
5:08 am
Marty that makes sense, If Gallardo is back to being dominating and not so damn brittle. Capuano…. I don’t know enough about . Who in Gods name are you gonna get through FA to be that number 1 if Gallardo anint he guy?
square leg
July 18th, 2010
5:10 am
Marty do you ever notice that when you mention Scott Boros that the room air temperature drops about thirty degrees and you start reaching for the Holy Water.
Marty
July 18th, 2010
5:15 am
welp… gallardo aint THAT brittle… aside from the freak acl tear against the cubs as he tried to jump over a sliding player heading to first (i watched that by the way, and the fact that he pitched not only the rest of the inning, but the next one as well speaks leagues about the kids drive), and the short stint on the dl for a oblique strain that occurred (luckily) during the all star break… im looking for a number 2 or 3… a solid righty… haven’t checked the free agent list yet (still prayin on this year seeing as i already paid for the 9 pack)
Marty
July 18th, 2010
5:19 am
ha square! all i noticed were the lights kept flickering on and off and i levitated 3 feet above my chair
square leg
July 18th, 2010
5:22 am
From down here in Australia its difficult to keep up with the braves the way I used to when I was a season ticket holder… 4 pack 7 rows above the visitor dugout. most of the games I see are ESPN Sunday night games. ( 9 in the am here ) tivo them and watch after work.
Marty
July 18th, 2010
5:23 am
that’s sum down under dedication! braves look solid as hell! love martin prado (and not because he shares his name with me)
square leg
July 18th, 2010
5:25 am
Maybe we can swing a deal for Hart… for one of our young guns down on the farm. I hear Texas can vouch for our kids
square leg
July 18th, 2010
5:27 am
yeah Prado is killing it mate. Moylan is a local hero and he has done his bit this year as well. Although tonite wasn’t very indicative of the pitcher he is
square leg
July 18th, 2010
5:32 am
The braves have a very bright future the way i see it., most of the guys on this blog are so freaking negative sky is falling F wits. Not all mind you just most. Baseball is a game that deserves to be enjoyed slowly, much like cricket. The season is 162 games for a reason. Its not a sprint. Ebbs and Flows
Marty
July 18th, 2010
5:33 am
y’know! i know the braves got guys hiding in the farm system, just i don’t think we’ll let hart or fielder go for anything less than major league ready… and granted, moylan blew the hold, huddy got all the blame… gotta be honest tho… and i think the crew already knows this… hart is our best trade bait right now… we’ve got outfielders waiting in our farm (cain is in the big leagues now too) and he’s makin 5 mil… in a career year, he’s gonna be makin more next year which could stall fielder talks… but we don’t really have a 1B to take over… one of the two will prolly be gone (against my best wishes)
square leg
July 18th, 2010
5:35 am
Well mate its 730 pm Sunday night here and I’m gonna get into the AFL Footy game thats coming on. Aussie rules football. Nice to chat with you Marty. all the best with the Brew Crew….. just not against my Bravos
Marty
July 18th, 2010
5:36 am
baseball is a game of streaks… take away our 9 game losing streak and we’re .500… but that’s the way baseball goes… u lose 9 games outta a 162 game season and everyone thinks u should be a seller… not sayin we’re last year’s rockies, but still gotta long way to go!
Marty
July 18th, 2010
5:38 am
heard ya brudda! always a pleasure! have a good night, and best of luck to the braves, got nothing but respect for ya guys, as long as u stop throwin at our backs ha!