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29tigerboys
July 14th, 2010
2:42 pm
How could a Braves fan not like this trade? Esco and Jo-Jo for the #’s we get in return? Like an earlier post added, we just acquired our new HR leader (and he plays the infield). Now if Wren is serious, he will deal McClouth and prospect(s) for a power hitting outfielder. This trade definitely made sense for us!!
drlull
July 14th, 2010
2:42 pm
With 20/20 hindsight the Bravos should have kept Elvis Andrus and sent Yunel to Texas in the Texieria deal, but the upside on Esco must have looked better in 2007.
A lot of fans seem to forget that Esco virtually carried this team from mid-May until August of last year when Chipper lost his mojo. I can remember him personally winning 5-7 games by himself last year. He tailed off in mid-August and fans, being fickle, only remembered that.
Still, I think he has been a bit of a clubhouse distraction and maybe this is best. I’m absolutely amazed that anyone would see value in Jo-Jo as a major leaguer–he’s worse than Charlie Morton ever was.
I hope this works out well for the Braves. I suspected Yunel was leaving soon based on what went on this year.
Tale of Woe
July 14th, 2010
2:43 pm
Does anyone see Escobar still being a starting SS in 7 years? 5 yrs? 3yrs? C’mon – don’t kid yourselves. This guy had one good year for a team that didn’t make the playoffs. His head doesn’t match his skills. He will never be all that he can be.
This helps us this year and in 2 yrs we will have a new SS. No big lose for the Braves. It was worth the gamble. Gonzalez can’t do much worse than what Yunel has been giving us.
rock out with Cox out
July 14th, 2010
2:43 pm
wish we had thrown in Lowe
Paddy O
July 14th, 2010
2:43 pm
GT – you always run down future HOF? Chipper plays with an attitude, and generally does make the repeated “i am on drugs and don’t know what is going on” errors that Escobar did. I still say play Infante in CF if he can do it.
jay dubu
July 14th, 2010
2:43 pm
@Ross, Toronto is leading all of baseball in HR, 10th in RBI, 13 in runs scored. How is that a weak offensive team?
Dr. Dman
July 14th, 2010
2:43 pm
bvillebaron: YOU ARE AN IDIOT…! There isn’t another Manager in the history of the game who is more PATIENT than Bobby Cox. He has put with Escobar’s EGO for much longer than most of us would have! AND… this was a MUCH better trade than some earlier trades! It was PAINFUL watching the All Star Game last night – watching Elvis Andrus and Adam Waynewright, who – along with 100mph Neftali Feliz… for NOTHING…!!! It appears this one could work VERY well for us.
Roy Hobbs
July 14th, 2010
2:43 pm
Glen, what power exactly are you talking about? Gonzalez is already near his career high for home runs. He plays for a team were the gameplan is grip it and rip it. He has more seasons with single digit home runs than seasons with double digit home runs. 12 years in the league. 131 career home runs. 281 career doubles. This guy is not a power hitter.
Mitchell
July 14th, 2010
2:43 pm
I can obviously understand why some people would be happy to get rid of Yunel but would any of you bat an eye if we traded Melky and Nate for a big outfield bat?
Surely we could get something for those guys.
Again, I get why Bobby might have been at the end of his rope with Yunel but his departure from the team is a huge disappointment to me personally and reflects poorly on Terry Pendleton as the Braves hitting coach. Based on the offensive stuggles of countless players in recent years, it’s more than fair to say that he has failed to perform at an acceptable level.
In no way should he be deserving of consideration as a replacement for Bobby Cox as manager upon his retirement.
Paddy O
July 14th, 2010
2:43 pm
come playoff time, you may come to appreciated Mr. Lowe.
slugger
July 14th, 2010
2:44 pm
Oh, and Hello Everyone.
Since we’ve started winning, I’ve stopped posting
Lurking like always, though. Can we forever ban talking about the Tex trade? We traded prospects for Tex – easy trade. Tried to win. Didn’t work. Should have only done it if we could predict the economy falling to pieces and had enough cash to sign Tex.
Next.
ALinRIC
July 14th, 2010
2:44 pm
Former Toronto GM raves about Collins and Pastornicky (says nothing about Jo Jo, understandably). Collins (age 20) is likely to be a set-up pitcher in the bullpen and Pastornicky (age 20) will be an everyday MLB SS or 2B.
MeaneyMouse
July 14th, 2010
2:44 pm
Good trade. More pop in the lineup!!
BIOMASS
July 14th, 2010
2:44 pm
heckyes, Reyes is worthless and although I liked Esco, a change was needed. Hopefully he’ll prosper in new environs. Not a single HR this year, wow. That is telling.
Josefina Rivera
July 14th, 2010
2:45 pm
I understand people would rather post than read. But try reading about who we have coming up through the minors.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
July 14th, 2010
2:45 pm
Lessee,
Today I lost my job, my girl left,my dog was hit by a car and Yousmell A**holebar and No No Reyes got traded. Has this been a great day or what?
Tale of Woe
July 14th, 2010
2:46 pm
The bigger question should be –
What will the Mets and Phils do to respond?
Chip Caray's Eyebrows
July 14th, 2010
2:46 pm
Those are real prospects the Braves got, which some refuse add to their Escobar love-fest spewing.
Lew
July 14th, 2010
2:47 pm
Mitchell-Yeah, like I’ve been saying – sure we can get a bat for Nate and the $11 mil he’s still owed. Maybe even two bats. Not cracked, either.
Yeah, we could have gotten ANY outfielder we wanted for YUnel, but Wren didn’t want any of them and passed them all up to take the worst deal h could find. Lots of logic there. Y’all might even impress scoots and he don’t get impressed over anything – he didn’t originate.
kirkinga
July 14th, 2010
2:48 pm
I sure hope that now that Yunel is gone we will get more specifics as to whether or not Yunel was as bad a clubhouse guy as people who aren’t actually in the clubhouse claim.
sportsmandh
July 14th, 2010
2:48 pm
Tale of Woe,
I agree with you. Escobar has the Andruw Jones mentality. He gets by on talent alone. He doesn’t seem to be interested in doing anything that could make himself better. Not to mention, how many passes can you give a guy for mental lapses, lack of hustle/effort, or botched plays before you have to say enough is enough??
I agree also with someone else’s earlier post, don’t know who it was, but it was well said. They stated the Yunel supporters need to see him for what he is. Talented yes. But if this deal doesn’t show everyone just what the Braves front office and teammates think about him, then they Yunel supporters will never be convinced. If there was any support for him from Bobby or the clubhouse I don’t think this trade would have happened.
JDW
July 14th, 2010
2:49 pm
Heck, I’m more intrigued about the kid with 73Ks in 43 innings!!! Double A or not – that’s a NICE ratio!
ryan
July 14th, 2010
2:49 pm
You people that are dumping on this trade we got some great prospects in return from the Blue Jays.
GTFan
July 14th, 2010
2:49 pm
PaddyO, I agree that Infante would be great in CF.
Things that make you go hmmm.....
July 14th, 2010
2:49 pm
This is a heck of a lot better trade than the recent Hawks sign-trade deal.
JORDAN
July 14th, 2010
2:49 pm
@lew escobar has been a clutch hitter in the past and always has been a good hitter. he coulda used these past few days to clear his head and start fresh for the 2nd half. i honestly believe he woulda have been big for us in the 2nd half. i know he was a headache to braves management but he was a stud defensively and his hitting would have came around. just like adam laroche he sucks in the 1st half and hits his ass off in the 2nd half. this trade will backfire i believe. they coulda got more for escobar.
ALinRIC
July 14th, 2010
2:50 pm
would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when DOB learned about the trade while in the airport. i have this picture of dude typing the trade story with one hand and confirming the info. on his cell with the other all in about 10 minutes before boarding.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
July 14th, 2010
2:50 pm
Come to think about it the best part of this is Torontos’s manager, Cito Gaston. The first time Escobar pulls one of his stunts he will,as the Gunny says, rip his head off and etc,etc,etc!
tiger297
July 14th, 2010
2:51 pm
I wonder if we give Escobar a share and WS ring?
Gone Viral
July 14th, 2010
2:51 pm
JaysFan, here is a link about Escobar you may enjoy:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1130711/index.htm
He’s homesick for a reason. What this kid has been through is all but impossible for the rest of us to understand.
LaterEsco
July 14th, 2010
2:51 pm
Very happy about this..other than the fact I have an Esco jersey. There is no room for pre-teens in MLB. BRAVOS!!
wheelz007
July 14th, 2010
2:51 pm
Good Trade.
Subract Escobar’s laziness and poor attitude. His Potential/Talent wasn’t going to be reached in ATL.
Add Gonzales’s bat and playoff experience. We know we’re getting a consistent pro player.
I’ll take the deal!
Good job Wren.
BravesFan
July 14th, 2010
2:52 pm
chip caray eyebriws , i said on bradlye’s blog remember the prospects. they might get us an OF bat.
Brave4life-1995 all over again??
July 14th, 2010
2:52 pm
NICK CALLED THIS TRADE, YES NICK OUT OF ALL THE PEOPLE NICK CALLED IT
rrosson3
July 14th, 2010
2:52 pm
not to bad of a lineup after the break:
1. Martin Prado (All-Star)
2. Jason Heyward (All-Star)
3. Chipper Jones (hitting over .300 since retirement talk)
4. Brian McCann (ASG MVP!)
5. Troy Glaus (14 hrs 58 rbis)
6. Alex Gonzalez (17 hrs, 50 rbis, 43 extra base hits)
7. Eric Hinske/Matt Diaz (Diaz hitting like Diaz lately, Hinske has 34 rbis in LIMITED duty)
8. Nate McLouth/Melky Cabrera (only hole now)
Can I get a Marlon Byrd next, anyone?
Roy Hobbs
July 14th, 2010
2:52 pm
Chip Carays Eyebrows – you are correct, they look like legit prospects.
So now we are trading starters for prospects? Escobar is going to hit some home runs. Gonzalez probably wont hit 17 more in the second half. You just gained 5 or 6 home runs and and added about 40 strikeouts for the second half.
All the talk about this team, going back to last year when they were stuggling was about not giving away at bats. They just traded for a guy who gives away a boat load of at bats. The home runs look cool though.
Its almost always a bad idea to buy into a career year that happens to be a contract year.
Mitchell
July 14th, 2010
2:53 pm
pj
July 14th, 2010
12:22 pm
Long term this isn’t the best move – but for this season? You bet your butt it is. Sending Cox out with a bang and winning a title should be the goal – and this gets us closer to it!
Send Cox out with a title… he’s the God D manager!!! That’s his job!!! To manage!!!
Not to sit back and hope that his team sends him out with a bang.
That drives me crazy.
HuffBraves
July 14th, 2010
2:53 pm
Foolish Blue Jays! Don’t they know that Escobar is useless without Brayan Pena by his side?
Space Monkey
July 14th, 2010
2:53 pm
This is the best news. We got rid of a lazy, stupid shortstop and a 4A pitcher. We got a proven winner. We got real nice prospects. Did anybody see that pitcher’s K rate in AA? He struck out more than 70 in 40-something innings. Kid has some stuff. This is just awesome. I love Frank Wren right now. Boy, Toronto really bought the hype on Yunel. He’s been nothing but a rally killer this year. And his love swinging at the first pitch is the opposing pitcher’s best weapon. Man, I want to go open a bottle of champaign.
shmoe
July 14th, 2010
2:54 pm
http://twitter.com/surfingthemets
Atlanta got better today. It’s not hard to get Braves players to mutter unflattering things about Yunel Escobar.
about 2 hours ago via txt
Ryan
July 14th, 2010
2:54 pm
FWIW former Jays GM J.P. Riccardi was just on BSPNews calling the trade a “home run” for the Braves saying that Collins and Pastornicky will be good big league players.
CSpin
July 14th, 2010
2:54 pm
If Esco hits his first HR of the season this week, Imma gonna scream. And then act like it didn’t happen.
northbeach Scott
July 14th, 2010
2:55 pm
I loved Yunel when I first saw in him in Spring Training 2007. I was excited to see him come up to the Braves when Chipper was hurt and saw that he was a “difference maker” type of ballplayer in the field and at bat.
Nevertheless, Yunel has just lost it mentally and emotionally and it is obvious it will never happen for him with the Braves. I hope this trade will help him grow up and be more of a team player. He is the only guy on the 25 man not contributing. His fielding shenanagans last week and his sullen, self-absorbed attitude are unacceptable and had become a distraction.
Yunel completely tore it with me when he pouted and carried on because an official scorer gave him an error on a tough chance a couple of weeks ago. He seems to be almost socially retarded and at 27 he is no longer a kid. Great work by Frank Wren to improve the Braves. Bonus in getting rid of Jo-Jo the dog-faced boy. Made my day.
ALinRIC
July 14th, 2010
2:55 pm
those praising Escobar’s defensive ability, did you not watch the Mets series?
those praising Escobar’s ability to hit in the second half, do you not realize that the numbers are fairly similar b/w first and second half. OPS about 0.50 pts. higher in second half, but homers, RBIs, hits, runs, etc. all about the same.
The bigger issue and as DOB and others have pointed out a number of times, dude hasn’t hit a home run since 2 September of last year! Rafael Belliard had more power (a better glove and less attitude.).
rrosson3
July 14th, 2010
2:55 pm
what i hate the most was ANY ground ball Escobar hit he NEVER ran hard. Hopefully Gonzalez freaking RUNS!
Supes
July 14th, 2010
2:56 pm
Anders, there is no “Yunel bashing” by the knowledgeable fans around the DOB blogs, you know that….but you also have to admit the man was somewhat of a head case and a mental midget at times…ahhh ironic, you should by now know something about those types…we shipped one of them to you last year, how’s FRANCINE working out for ya? Developed into that all star player some here were LAMENTING he was going to turn into away from the “pressure of the Braves and bad coaching of TP?”
Again, it’s simple folks. Yunel wore out his welcome with Bobby and apparently SOME of his team mates who were tired of his attitude. U don’t think Brian McCann wants to win? Except he doesn’t throw a temper tantrum every time something goes wrong or he gets charged with an error. I guess that doesn’t make Brian “fiery” or whatever “gameface” people believe that sh*t is.
I don’t wish Yunel bad, I hope he does well, but I doubt it. To be honest, the only team I see Yunel doing well in is the Marlins…close to Cuba, lots of latino support and a big Cuban community.
PeterNorth
July 14th, 2010
2:56 pm
Who is gonna play short against lefties? (.213avg, 714ops) I’m all for this trade but this is a legitimate question
beachcomber
July 14th, 2010
2:56 pm
Would like this trade a whole lot better if we had anyone anywhere on the farm who could play shortstop in the year or two when AG is washed up. Someday something might snap in and Yunel will play to his potential. At least, for now, it would in the American League
J T at Capital
July 14th, 2010
2:56 pm
I think every one saw this coming after poor throw he made to Glaus so much talent I am surprise more players didn’t try to help him throught this he has one of the best arms in league he has never been same player since he was move from no two spot in lineup he more of a pull hitter since drop in the batting order.
BravesFan
July 14th, 2010
2:56 pm
and rreading that story at si vault makes me really feel awful for esky. but it just wasn’t gonna get done here. best of luck escobar. hope you make it.
Nova Scotia Steve - Enter Sandman
July 14th, 2010
2:57 pm
Someone please make the crazy stop
Steve in Northern Virginia
July 14th, 2010
2:57 pm
I haven’t gotten through the whole blog yet…but I”m curious what Chipper and some of the veterans think of the trade.
Brian from SC
July 14th, 2010
2:57 pm
I honestly never expected Escobar to be traded during the season. But I will admit that when I was watching the Braves-Mets game Friday (I think), and he had that bad inning, right after he made that “throw” to Glaus and almost got him hurt, I got mad, pounded the couch, and blurted out to my innocent wife “God, I can’t wait ’til he’s traded”. Immediately after I said it, I chuckled to myself about how I sounded like those “crazy in-game bloggers”. Didn’t know I was being clairvoyant.
ncscoots
July 14th, 2010
2:57 pm
If there was any support for him from Bobby or the clubhouse I don’t think this trade would have happened.
One of the few logical points made all day. Trade the guy? Sure. Mentioned it myself weeks ago, as a possibility for the offseason. But to waste a bargaining chip like Escobar on this kind of trade…that’s just unconscionable. Except for the point that you made. That is the only element that makes the trade even remotely reasonable, in my opinion.
And that’s why I’m pretty snarky about the whole deal. Not so much that he was traded (but thanks to the numbletards who are taking up the collection for my trip to Toronto. I love Toronto. Great city.), but that the value was just tossed.
Mitchell
July 14th, 2010
2:57 pm
rrosson3
July 14th, 2010
2:52 pm
not to bad of a lineup after the break:
1. Martin Prado (All-Star)
2. Jason Heyward (All-Star)
3. Chipper Jones (hitting over .300 since retirement talk)
4. Brian McCann (ASG MVP!)
5. Troy Glaus (14 hrs 58 rbis)
6. Alex Gonzalez (17 hrs, 50 rbis, 43 extra base hits)
7. Eric Hinske/Matt Diaz (Diaz hitting like Diaz lately, Hinske has 34 rbis in LIMITED duty)
8. Nate McLouth/Melky Cabrera (only hole now)
Nate/Melky only hole now? That’s two players. That’s not one hole. It’s two holes we still have to deal with.
We cannot expect to win a single playoff series with those two. Surely we could have got something better than Alex Gonzalez for Cabrera and McLouth.
James Cassara
July 14th, 2010
2:57 pm
I wish Yunel the best of luck but this is a terrific move for the Braves. Jo Jo has a lot of potential but the Braves are too stocked in arms for him to have any impact here. My only concern is the length and terms of Gonzalez’s contract. Can the Braves keep in for another year or two?
drlull
July 14th, 2010
2:57 pm
The Frank Wren interview on 680 is here under Chuck & Chernoff:
http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=87&c=673
sportsmandh
July 14th, 2010
2:57 pm
PeterNorth,
Maybe Infante gets a few spot starts at short against lefties.
Yunel's Biggest Fan
July 14th, 2010
2:58 pm
ARRGGGHHH!!!!
CraZyTRaDeMaN
July 14th, 2010
2:58 pm
The problem is I have articles supporting the WIDE and SERIOUS interest in Escobar and YOU HAVE NOTHING to support your opinion—coach smith
You have your articles written by sports writers who are always right when it comes to trades. You got the articles from the internet and we all know if you got it off the internet it must be true. So my bad for questioning your vast inside knowledge for everything related to trading and evaluating players. I have only my opinion, your right but obviously my opinion is better than your articles because there is no way a GM in MLB would make a trade for less talent if he could have traded the same players for better talent.
Gone Viral
July 14th, 2010
2:58 pm
I will say this. If the Braves really could have gotten Greinke for Yunel and Frenchy, that would be one of the all-time best examples of selling high.
Roy Hobbs
July 14th, 2010
2:58 pm
rrosson3 – gonzalez does not have to run. He strikes out.
Brave4life-1995 all over again??
July 14th, 2010
2:58 pm
I really do wish the best to Escobar, HIs defense saved us many games
Lew
July 14th, 2010
2:58 pm
Yunel is a second half hitter? Do y’all ever research before you speak?
Pre- and post All Star numbers for 08 and 09 (07 he didn’t start until mid June) Final in ( )
08 Pre- .286 BA (.288), .359 OBP (.366), .387 SLG% (.401)
09- .293 BA (.299), .355 OBP ( .377), .435 SLG % (.436)
I guess if he were to improve this year at that rate, he’d be hitting around .241 with a 343 OBP. He’d never hit those SLG #’s with what he did first half.
It's ME
July 14th, 2010
2:59 pm
It’s about time the front office got rid of that “hot dog”. I lost count of the times he fielded a double play ball (with Prado standing by second) but ranto second and threw to first. Got to be the BIG Man .Or going for pop ups that have been called for and cutting front of teammate to make th catch.Good trade Wren.
Anders
July 14th, 2010
3:00 pm
The bigger question should be –
What will the Mets and Phils do to respond? (Tale of Woe)
To the Braves getting 33 year old Gonzales? I’m guessing they’ll shrug their shoulders and start their second halfs. What ever plans those teams had/have won’t be altered because of this trade imo.
That said, I don’t think the Braves are done trading.
Things that make you go hmmm.....
July 14th, 2010
3:00 pm
Gaston will be the best thing ever for Yunel. He’ll either learn to perform and act like a pro, or Gaston will redirect his career path to something other than baseball.
CSpin
July 14th, 2010
3:00 pm
beachcomber “Would like this trade a whole lot better if we had anyone anywhere on the farm who could play shortstop in the year or two when AG is washed up. ”
Are you serious? Do you know who we have in the minors now? Salcedo (though he’s 18) should be enough for you to retract that sentence anyway. No need to worry about the future of the braves SS (even though we’re all kicking ourselves from the Andrus move)
Steve in Northern Virginia
July 14th, 2010
3:00 pm
Nscoots…I like this trade. Several have suggested we could have gotten more value for Esco, but face it, as every game goes by where he either does something stupid or doesn’t hit, that value is wasted. Toronto is taking a relatively low cost risk here, and the Braves are getting a known quantidy.
Brave4life-1995 all over again??
July 14th, 2010
3:00 pm
Willingham PLEASE
CraZyTRaDeMaN
July 14th, 2010
3:01 pm
and what is the problem with putting an ALL-STAR like Infante at SS?–coach smith
Nothing if you would’ve been here when the news broke I said I’d play Omar over Alex and use alex as the super utl. I would like Omar hitting 2nd over Alex hitting 7th or 8th.
T.C
July 14th, 2010
3:01 pm
Don’t think escobar was all what people make him out to be saying he was a club house cancer.People just love to follow a persons comment and don’t know or have not seen squat diddley of how escobar really is.A young and up coming talent in escobar who i think will turn it around will hurt the bravos at the ss position in the long run.People do not be decieved of gonzalez’s home runs when we have 70+ games to go.If he can keep the home runs going and raise that average that would be great but can he? I really hope so.Mr wren,lets see if this trade will bar-b-q or mildew.
Nick
July 14th, 2010
3:01 pm
Brave4life-1995 all over again?? – Thanks for the recognition.
TheAntiMe
July 14th, 2010
3:01 pm
July 14th, 2010
2:41 pm
This trade was made because Yunel frosted his hair and because he didn’t speak English.
That’s right. We all know that Bobby Cox won’t stand for any of his players to not speak English. Just ask Martin Prado and Kenshin Kawakami.
As for the hair, it wasn’t the frosted hair that got to Bobby but just the frosted brain underneath that pretty hair that caused Escobar to, too many times, behave like an infant. And Yunel wasn’t showing any improvement in that area this year over last year. If he had, he would most likely still be here because Bobby Cox is loyal to his players – many would say to a fault.
Gone Viral
July 14th, 2010
3:01 pm
“and blurted out to my innocent wife”
My wife, who is a Cardinals fan, actively dislikes Yunel and has been saying for over a year now that she couldn’t wait for us to trade him. She got home for lunch right around the time ESPN broke the story and I was shocked by how happy it made her. I hadn’t fully appreciated how much his play bugged her as a casual observer of the team.
ALinRIC
July 14th, 2010
3:01 pm
PeterNorth, et. als, Gonzalez is a RH hitter/fielder.
coach smith
July 14th, 2010
3:02 pm
CraZyTRaDeMaN
No, but after the issues in the last METS series, I think Wren may have been over-eager to get rid of Escobar
KoReen
July 14th, 2010
3:02 pm
Escobar, he need to go. He no good. Bad boy in clubhouse, he lazy. He think he Cuban, make majic. Give me his talent, I make superstar, but he no have brain power. What you think??
TERRY P.
July 14th, 2010
3:03 pm
i love when people speak as if they actually know something about a person that they have never meet or even spoken to. people say all these bad things about his attitude and all this other stuff but not one person on this site actually knows..its just really crazy to me that people do that
Brian from SC
July 14th, 2010
3:03 pm
Anders, good luck finding a player that makes the Mets four games better than the Braves over the rest of the season.
Honestly…I’ve seriously come around on the Mets. I now am convinced that they will finish above .500. I still like them to finish in 3rd.
1135203 'THE FAN'
July 14th, 2010
3:03 pm
@Craig, jch, cs95, Josefina Rivera, et al: “don’t we have a young SS in the minors that the Brave are saying is the future, I believe he is from Cuba.”
Baseball Prospectus’ Kevin Goldstein, July 9, 2010:
“Edward Salcedo, SS, Braves (Low-A Rome): 3-for-4, 2B, 3B, 2 R, 3 RBI. First big game for high-profile international signee.”
Baseball Prospectus’ Jeff Euston, June 28, 2010:
“the Braves garnered an additional year of evaluation time for shortstop Edward Salcedo. Originally signed by Cleveland in July 2007, Salcedo’s $2.3 million bonus was voided when a MLB investigation determined he had not yet turned 16. The Braves subsequently paid MLB to investigate and verify Salcedo’s birth date, signing him as an 18-year-old for $1.6 million this past February. The timing enabled Salcedo to become another rare international signee to debut the same year he signed, giving Atlanta five full seasons of evaluation time. Through 21 games with the Braves’ Dominican Summer League club, Salcedo had posted a slash line of .265/.419/.382.”
Travis
July 14th, 2010
3:04 pm
I’m sorry but the Braves have thrived on bench chemistry. It’s obvious that Escobar was a very quirky and hard to get next to person. Players that have brought this team together as a unit (Wagner and Hinski)have a big influence, as does Chipper, on the makeup of this team. I think everyone had enough. You know Bobby had a lot of influence but players wil let coaches know if a problem exists. Too bad for this kid but his talent didn’t overshadow his immaturity.
njbraves
July 14th, 2010
3:04 pm
I love when people complain about how bad Melky and Nate are…then turn around and say we should trade them for a power hitting outfielder. Why would anyone want Nate right now???
CraZyTRaDeMaN
July 14th, 2010
3:04 pm
Who is gonna play short against lefties?—–PeterNorth
You big boy cuzz PeterNorth can swing it both ways!!!!!!
Beeeeeff Pocoroba
July 14th, 2010
3:04 pm
not that i expect any reasonable discussion to happen regarding Escobar, but…
does anybody realize we just traded our best defensive infielder? Especially with Chipper’s limited range, I think we’re underestimating the impact of Esco’s glove.
Not that I’m glossing over his occasional bone-headed play, especially on the base paths. I’m just concerned with the loss of his glove.
Not to mention we bought high on Gonzalez and sold low on Escobar.
Here’s hoping Gonzalez keeps up his hot hitting.
The Bravery
July 14th, 2010
3:05 pm
Lew is like the Yunel Escobar of this blog. I bet he has highlights and I hope he is traded
KPH
July 14th, 2010
3:05 pm
Yunel could be great but he is not serious enough about the game to ever achieve greatness. Maybe this will wake him up. Wren quite possibly got us in the world series with this move and McCann got us home field advantage last night. GO BRAVOS!!!
Brian from SC
July 14th, 2010
3:05 pm
Gone Viral, my wife just kinda looked at me as if to say “What does this have to do with Real Housewives of New York?” Not a baseball fan, lol.
TERRY P.
July 14th, 2010
3:05 pm
Travis
July 14th, 2010
3:04 pm
I’m sorry but the Braves have thrived on bench chemistry. It’s obvious that Escobar was a very quirky and hard to get next to person
How was this obvious?
Doug
July 14th, 2010
3:05 pm
LOL What do you think Riccardi would say about those two guys? He drafted them! Of course he is going to talk them up, because that would reflect well on him.
Fact is, those two guys were barely in the top 15 of a weak farm system. Collins could become an asset in the bullpen, but I’d be surprised if Pastornicky ever gets to Atlanta.
Thundersticks
July 14th, 2010
3:05 pm
This is clearly a win now move. We can’t wait any longer for Escobar to turn it around…not with his attitude.
I believe there will be another move. Wren added more pitching depth with this move, which will allow him to trade pitching for the RH power hitting LF we need…if Diaz doesn’t turn it around.
Adam
July 14th, 2010
3:06 pm
I dont understand the people sayign this way a bad trade! We got rid of a problem on the field in Escobar and got rid of a pitcher who never got close to living up to his potential. And then, in return, we got the power we needed and two bright youngsters! The shortstop we got might be the replacement for Gonzalez and from everything I have heard, he is a good one.
coach smith
July 14th, 2010
3:06 pm
Lou Pinella says the CUBS will be sellers….I say see if we can pluck MARLON BYRD from them….after watching him last night, he is definitely a “Braves way” type player
Mr. Turnip-Green Jeans
July 14th, 2010
3:06 pm
Considering the prospects we got in return, this was a GREAT deal!
Getting rid of Jo Jo was an outstanding addition!
Yunel would have continued his regression here; no doubt in my mind. That seed had already been sown.
Lew
July 14th, 2010
3:07 pm
Anti me-I had a ten minute conversation with Prado this spring and I don’t speak Spanish or any variation, thereof. Prado is multilingual and is easily understood speaking English.
coach smith
July 14th, 2010
3:08 pm
sportsmandh
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NEVER put Escobar in the same breath with Andruw Jones
O.J.
July 14th, 2010
3:08 pm
For anyone hoping Frank Wren is going to make another move anytime soon, dont get your hopes up. From what he said on 680 the fan, he is going to wait to see how Nate and Jason do when they get back before doing anything else.
Lew
July 14th, 2010
3:08 pm
Bravery-Highlights would suppose I had hair to be highlighted. As for the trade? No real trade value, I’m afraid- unless you don’t like my artwork.
CraZyTRaDeMaN
July 14th, 2010
3:08 pm
Coach Smith, He was on 680 and said that this trade was discussed 2 weeks ago with the Jays. He has had plenty of time to evaluate other potential trade partners. We might have been able to trade Esco for a more talented player but they may have wanted more than JOJO to go along with him. Plus much like the Vazquez trade I think he really liked the minor league talent we got as well.
NorthOf49
July 14th, 2010
3:08 pm
I like the deal, cautiously. I’m not sure Yunie will ever reach his potential due to concentration and consistency issues, but it’s still a risk. That said, adding a sizable bat to the line-up is what we all wanted. Hopefully his age and mileage won’t present much of an issue.
Apparently the lefty we got is nothing to overlook. Check this out: http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/will_hill/?id=288182