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nolie
July 1st, 2010
5:19 pm
Yeah I posted here that he got his win. maybe he can bounce back some. kinda doubt it, but I hope so
Glen W
July 1st, 2010
5:20 pm
Seriously, Barmes is the bare minimum which is why he will probably be nontendered. If he’s not an improvement then why do we want him?
I never said I wanted Barmes. Your missing the point. What I am saying is that if we run Yunel out of town, Barmes is the kind of choice you are looking at in terms of a replacement. And Barmes is making $3.1M this year, and we all know Yunel is not making that.
nolie
July 1st, 2010
5:20 pm
Barmes fits that Glen
no he does not, he is an offensive black hole away from Coors
Lpad
July 1st, 2010
5:21 pm
Hopefully it is better late than never for Lerew. Always thought he had good stuff.
GTSteve
July 1st, 2010
5:22 pm
I hate off days
ncscoots
July 1st, 2010
5:22 pm
nolie, did you? I guess I didn’t see that. And no, I don’t think we can pencil him as a perennial All-Star, either, sadly. He’s still wearing some hellacious sideburns, though, LOL, and you gotta by-god love that.
Lpad
July 1st, 2010
5:22 pm
I get what you’re saying Glen. There ain’t much out there.
Fred
July 1st, 2010
5:22 pm
To add to my Escobar comments at 5:18, if any other professional behaved in that manner on the job, that person would likely be fired (especially if it happened repeatedly). I once worked with a woman who had emotional outbursts, and she didn’t last very long.
Redstick19
July 1st, 2010
5:26 pm
Fred- what you said in your 5:18 post is exactly the reason why I wouldn’t care at all if Escobar gets shipped out. Yes, he’s a great defensive player that can (most times, at least) handle the bat. However, those are “between the lines” thiings. In the “between the ears” category, Escobar is a mess and is not a team-first player. Everyone else on the Braves team does appear to be team-first. My God, Frenchy was a hometown boy and got run outta town pretty quick… Escobar’s time should be up as soon as we find a suitable stand-in or rental. Did anyone else catch the face that Hudson made when Yunel sort of booted a grounder? Yunel is not good for this clubhouse.
nolie
July 1st, 2010
5:26 pm
nolie, did you? I guess I didn’t see that Scoots
you need to be running the find engine with nol in it on every page. ya don’t wanna hinder your edumacation do ya?
Snotboogieeee
July 1st, 2010
5:27 pm
hello there sportafans
Looks like some pretty good discussions going on for an offday.
Ease pitched at Oglethorpe U.
Barmes as a placeholder SS.
Great link by JJ4NLCY from p-dub. McCann really is getting slighted year after year by lesser catchers. The point is most people in the media, players and managers know and respect McCann. But because of the stupid coverage ESPN and others give to Molina or Soto or whoever Mac gets bypassed. Atleast he gets in every year. I hope he beats out Molina this year to the starting catcher role.
Tomas
July 1st, 2010
5:31 pm
Yunel Escobar a head case……..The guy cares about his performance, that makes him a head case. A head case is Carlos Zambrano who starts screaming at teammates for not diving to get uncatchable balls. A head case is Milton Bradley who has trouble in every single team he plays.
Escobar was just upset because he felt the ruling was unfair, which they later changed. He gets upset by rulings and calls going against him….That makes him a headcase????? Come on people why do you criticize every single action he makes, he is human, he has emotions.
Redstick19
July 1st, 2010
5:31 pm
Glen- hey, I wasn’t trying to blast your idea or anything. I’m just not all that impressed with Barmes. Settling for a minimum type player is pretty much admitting that you are giving up on your season and are okay with mediocrity. I don’t think the Braves are there just yet with Escobar. However, I do have to admit Barmes would be an upgrade mentally over Escobar. But I’m still not convinved that something better won;t become available.
Snotboogieeee
July 1st, 2010
5:31 pm
Oh and can someone explain why Esco gets so wild about it being scored an error.Does it affect future contract talks or something so much? Apart from personal standards standpoint, I cant imagine and error or two being that important in the overall thing. Hrs, RBIs I can understand. He has a great range and great arm – that’s all matters in the end I think.
McFann 1 :Ô: :Ô:
July 1st, 2010
5:32 pm
Snotboogie The point is most people in the media, players and managers know and respect McCann. But because of the stupid coverage ESPN and others give to Molina or Soto or whoever Mac gets bypassed.
Exactly.
Atleast he gets in every year.
Oh yeah, totally. If he had completely missed it any of these times, that’d be about as wrong as baseball gets.
NO MORE BOBBY
July 1st, 2010
5:32 pm
After the crazy contract Hawks are offering Joe Johnson (yes Joe Johnson and not LeBron), Liberty Media does not look so bad right now.
Lpad
July 1st, 2010
5:34 pm
Tomas -
You who also used to swear a lot, get mad and show his emotions? Greg Maddux. He must also be a headcase. According to some people standards.
Gil Garrido
July 1st, 2010
5:34 pm
Sorry all you Esco haters, but he is here to stay. The kid has more talent than anyone other position player on the roster, except maybe Prado.
You should quit trying to pretend you can read his thoughts and intent. I would bet that 99.9 per cent of the people criticizing him are Anglos and have no idea of the culture and background he comes from. Just because he doesn’t behave the way YOU want him to behave does not make him a problem.
Redstick19
July 1st, 2010
5:34 pm
Tomas- I think what most are trying to say about Escobar is not that he shouldn’t be fiery or emotional…. I think we just would rather him care about how a ruling effects whether the Braves win or lose the game- and clearly he was upset for his own personal record, not the team’s sake.
Glen W
July 1st, 2010
5:35 pm
Redstick, no worries. I didn’t feel like anyone waht blasting what I was saying. But as for hoping someone better becomes available. That approach is taken some times, but I think because of the defensive responsibilities, you never take a chance with two positions… SS and C.
Also, if Barmes were an equal replacement… what’s wrong with that. Teams don’t try to improve at every position every year. That’s not how it works.
IF the Braves moved Yunel as part of a package to get a really good hitter (not saying they should) and end up with a guy like Barmes or Gonzalez (or think back to guys like Bordick and Weiss), you could still that the team improved overall.
Lpad
July 1st, 2010
5:36 pm
Snotboogieeee – Maybe he wants to win a gold glove. Then it would matter.
McFann 1 :Ô: :Ô:
July 1st, 2010
5:36 pm
GTSteve–
I hate off days, too!
Although, we’re gonna be headin’ out for a while around 7, so it’s not so bad for us that there’s no game.
Gil Garrido
July 1st, 2010
5:38 pm
Lpad –
A very good point. TBS used to have to instruct its cameramen to stay off Maddux after he allowed a hit, because it was so easy to lip-read the profanity. And you people want to condemn a Hispanic kid who shows a little emotion? Get real.
nolie
July 1st, 2010
5:38 pm
I think he’s one of those folks who can not handle anything negative about himself. He sees everything like that as unfair whether a poor scoring call or an admonition from Bobby or a negative mention in an article. Some folks are just like that, though screaming about it on the field is definitely a headcase reaction. There is nothing normal about that extreme a reaction.
Still I am an admirer of his play generally and would not want to see him go unless it involved a definite team upgrade. He can be frustrating at times though no doubt
Lpad
July 1st, 2010
5:38 pm
Redstick19 – All players care about there stats. Heck, Chipper is considering retiring because he doesn’t think he can’t hit 300/30/100 anymore. Nevermind the fact he is still helping the team win.
Redstick19
July 1st, 2010
5:39 pm
Gil- c’mon man, us white people will need a translation of your Spanish comments, please. Seriously- you gonna pull the race card, man? For the record, a grown man acting like a child is not cool in any race or country… so find another angle, buddy.
rammerjammer
July 1st, 2010
5:39 pm
“I would bet that 99.9 per cent of the people criticizing him are Anglos and have no idea of the culture and background he comes from.”-Gil Garrido
“The devil made me do it.”-Flip Wilson
Gil Garrido
July 1st, 2010
5:39 pm
Redstick — How do you know what he’s upset about??????
Jake W.
July 1st, 2010
5:39 pm
Escobar again, I swear he is a bigger problem on this blog than he probably is to his team. If you don’t think every clubhouse in this league doesn’t have at least one player who makes you shake your head every now and then I don’t know what to tell you. At least he listened to Chipper and didn’t go all Zambrano on somebody. As long as he isn’t out there rolling around in the outfield like Manny or storming press boxes like Milton bradley I think the braves are mature enough to put up with it. At least to they have another viable option and lets not forget how affordable this guy is. Don’t make a minor problem into a major one. He has his lapses every now and then but he isn’t like that the majority of the time.
Gil Garrido
July 1st, 2010
5:41 pm
redstick — it’s not a race card, it’s a culture card.
as lpad said — who got mad at greg maddux for acting like a foul-mouthed teenager when things didn;t go his way? no one, that;s who …
TnBrian
July 1st, 2010
5:41 pm
I don’t give a s*** about Escobar’s attitude. He hasn’t cost us any games to my knowledge this year. Of course, he probably hasn’t helped us win many either, but we’re in 1st place and all this while Yunel is still a immature child trapped in a man’s body.
I was reading some Met fans comments earlier (bored again) and they’re literally obsessed with getting Cliff Lee. They really think if they get him that they are postseason or world series bound. I will laugh my butt off if/when he ends up with the Twins, Rangers, or Cards.
Moby Grape
July 1st, 2010
5:43 pm
Also, if Barmes were an equal replacement… what’s wrong with that Glwn W
Excuse me Glen, but are you saying that Barmes is an equal replacement for Escobar? I sure hope not because they are not even in the same ballpark.
Yuni is having a poor three months with the bat, as nolie pointed out Barmes has had a very poor career with the bat other than at Coors Field.
Lpad
July 1st, 2010
5:43 pm
Nobody had a problem with Maddux flipping out every game and there’s been plenty of others. Anybody remember Paul O’Neill or George Brett? Heck, I once saw O’Neill strikeout and get toss go to the dugout and grab a bin holding some equipment and throw it on the field towards home plate.
Glen W
July 1st, 2010
5:44 pm
Escobar again, I swear he is a bigger problem on this blog than he probably is to his team.
Well said. I think the national pastime in this day and age is to complain about something or someone associated with our favorite team.
Yunel has had a couple of teachable moments. But he is not alone. Andruw had a couple of those earlier in his career and look at what he ended up producing for the team.
Also, Yunel has noticable improved some areas that needed some maturation. He is handling his interactions with the umpires much better this year.
God help me if my performance at work would have been broadcast on national TV when I was in my mid-20’s.
Redstick19
July 1st, 2010
5:45 pm
Redstick — How do you know what he’s upset about??????
Gil- Chipper’s comments pretty much spelled out that he was upset over the recording of an error in his name. If he was upset over what it meant for the team, he wouldn’t be pouting about scoring- he’d be mingling with teammates and saying “my bad” and “i’ll make it up at the plate guys.” He didn’t. He pouted and spearated himself instead. Not signs of a team guy.
Tomas
July 1st, 2010
5:45 pm
Redstick, agreed. But Escobar didn’t let it affect his performance, he got a base hit with the bases loaded against the all mighty Strasburg, and it was the second hit of the day for him. He handled every other play cleanly, and the last two games against the Nats he made some pretty good plays.
Last year, he was upset by some errors he made against the Yankees and Orioles and it did affect his performance, Bobby even benched him. I think he learned a lot after that because even though he was very upset by the ruling he didn’t let it affect his performance. He is learning on how to behave.
Lpad
July 1st, 2010
5:46 pm
Glen did you have some emotional outbreaks? According to Fred they never happen in a real world workplace.
Redstick19
July 1st, 2010
5:46 pm
*Separated, not spearated. oops.
Redstick19
July 1st, 2010
5:47 pm
Tomas- good point. Behavior is very hard to change, but he’s young- so maybe there’s hope…
TnBrian
July 1st, 2010
5:47 pm
Escobar is an enigma. Nobody really knows for sure if he speaks any English, nobody knows who he really is and nobody really knows what this guy is truly capable of in this game.
The only noise I’ve ever heard come out of Yunel’s mouth is, “AAOOOWWWWW” when Ted Lilly beans him in the side. That’s it.
Glen W
July 1st, 2010
5:48 pm
Excuse me Glen, but are you saying that Barmes is an equal replacement for Escobar? I sure hope not because they are not even in the same ballpark.
I hate it when people read half of a discussion and then criticize a point. Notice the word IF there.
For the record, I think Yunel is a much better player than Barmes… has much more potential. And if you compare $$$, he is a much better value right now and will be for at least 3 more years.
But do I think that Barmes could have given us exactly what Yunel has given us so far this year? Yes. (which is where my statement about IF IF IF he were an equal replacement come from).
If I’m the Braves, Yunel is my SS for three more years. Absolutely no reason to move him until his salary starts really moving up and then you assess where he is development-wise at that time.
nolie
July 1st, 2010
5:48 pm
well at least Escobrat gives us a topic of conversation on an off day. that’s a good thang
Gil Garrido
July 1st, 2010
5:49 pm
As I said … just because he doesn’t behave the way YOU think he should does not make him a bad person or a bad teammate.
Plus, you don’t know that he was “pouting” — maybe he was sitting at the end of dugout telling himself not to get upset about stuff like error calls. Ever think of that???
You people need to quit pretend you can read minds based on what you see in a five-second TV clip.
Glen W
July 1st, 2010
5:50 pm
Glen did you have some emotional outbreaks? According to Fred they never happen in a real world workplace.
If you count some of my reaction to the suggestion that Omar should be our SS… then yes.
Snotboogieeee
July 1st, 2010
5:51 pm
Small diversion from the Yuni emotions thing – What do you think happens with the Utley surgery thing. We heard rumors that the Phillies might look for better pitching to boost the club’s push etc. Now with Utley out for 5-6 weeks and Polanco also injured any chance they sit on their hands to see if they even stand a chance over the next couple of weeks and if not, decide to shut it down and trade Werth and play Dominic brown.All it will take will be one more injury or otehr problem and they might see it as the final straw.
Looks like the Mets are hoping to stay in the race. But even a remote chance that the Phillies dont go all out after July might be a big chip in our favor.With the Marlins and Nationals falling away, we just need to keep beating the Phils and Mets head to head.
Redstick19
July 1st, 2010
5:51 pm
Gil- I understand your point about Maddux. I don’t have a good answer for you there. My opinion (not fact, just my thoughts) would be that he was a team guy who was popular with teammates and won a lot of games for ATL. Escobar doesn not appear to be mr. popularity on the bench, and while he hasn’t really lost many games for us- he hasn’t won us near as many as Mad Dog.
Fred
July 1st, 2010
5:51 pm
Yes, Maddux cursed when the other team was successful against him. But he seemingly wasn’t concerned about personal stats., just the outcome of a play/game. Regarding Escobar, the scoring is irrelevant because the opponent safely reached based. I can never remember Maddux getting so upset over the official scoring (which does affect the pitcher’s ERA).
Lpad
July 1st, 2010
5:52 pm
“He separated himself”
Are you serious? Every player has done that at one point or another in their career. Usually when their mad. Stop trying to find problems. If he’s the cancer you think he is, he wouldn’t be on the team. Three years is a long time to deal with a cancer. I know they didn’t put up with Rocker that long or Lofton and Wickman and etc.
Jake W.
July 1st, 2010
5:54 pm
God help me if my performance at work would have been broadcast on national TV when I was in my mid-20’s.
Couldn’t agree more, we all have our moments and mature at different times in our life. I also happen to think that Escobar just may be a “different” kind of dude. Not this whole me first guy that people are trying to portray him as but a guy that simply marches to the beat of a different drummer and that causes him to look at things differently and do things diffrently. For instance, last year it looked like he was in the dugout having a conversation with his bat after he had a bad at-bat when they glanced in there one time. Wierd to me, but hey to each their own. Different people react to things differently. I think its safe to say Escobar is a little different from most of his teammates.
Gil Garrido
July 1st, 2010
5:55 pm
Redstick — Agree on maddux; his tirades were more self-directed.
Lpad
July 1st, 2010
5:55 pm
I don’t think they can trade Werth because Utley is coming back in six weeks. However, I don’t think he’ll be back in six weeks. Philly seems to have a habit of underestimating their injury timetables.
Moby Grape
July 1st, 2010
5:56 pm
I read the entire discussion Glen. I fail to understand the IF comment though. Why would you make that comment if you did not think they were equal since it only really applies if they are equal?
Redstick19
July 1st, 2010
5:57 pm
What do you mean “you people” Glen? Are you saying that you in fact know exactly what is going though Yunel’s head. Because I’d love to hear that. I think we’re just a group of passionate Braves fans who want the best for our team. And I’m not trying to antagonize you or anything like that at all. I just feel that my opinion is just as welcome and valid on this blog as yours is. Let’s face it, there is much neither one of us know in this situation. Let’s just call it agree to disagree… truce? My bad if I aggravated you.
CB
July 1st, 2010
5:57 pm
Maybe Escobar is Mitchell on a Blackberry.
rammerjammer
July 1st, 2010
5:58 pm
Good to get a refresher course on cultural norms here.
Lessee…Latinos are emotional, Anglos are insensitive. OK, gotta be some other stereotypes we can cover, LOL.
.582
July 1st, 2010
6:01 pm
Esco haterz…..lay off mah boi…….got it?
Redstick19
July 1st, 2010
6:02 pm
rammerjammer-
trust me, I know wome pretty ill-tempered white boys. Yeah, this stereotype thing is ridiculous.
Moby Grape
July 1st, 2010
6:04 pm
probably rednecks Redstick, everybody knoes that all rednecks are ill-tempered
Snotboogieeee
July 1st, 2010
6:05 pm
Lpad
If Phillies fell further behind in the next 3 weeks, they might still be 3 weeks away from Utley. So it might be worth their while to trade Werth to a contender for prospects and let Brown play. With some scrub standing in for Utley and their pitcher’s not setting the world on fire, its going to a tough few weeks for them.
Jake W.
July 1st, 2010
6:05 pm
I know they said Jason’s injury would likely linger all season but at least its not as bad as Utley. Out 5 or more weeks with Thumb surgery.
Lpad
July 1st, 2010
6:05 pm
I wonder if the Phillies regret trading Lee now. Could really help now that they can’t score.
Tomas
July 1st, 2010
6:06 pm
I remember a start against the Marlins last year, in which Derek Lowe cursed after every pitch he threw, and because it was in miami, everybody heard it.
Redstick19
July 1st, 2010
6:07 pm
Glen, I believe I owe you an apology. I blamed you for calling us Escobar haters “you people,” when in fact it was Gil who said it. Ironic- all this talk of Escobar has made me emotional and aggravated. Fitting.
Lpad
July 1st, 2010
6:07 pm
btw, you can say Maddux’s was self-directed. Bobby sure did get tossed a lot for Maddux’s self-directed anger. And O’Neill’s definitely wasn’t, but it didn’t keep the Yankees from winning either.
Redstick19
July 1st, 2010
6:09 pm
Moby- just because my handle is Redstick you assume my friends are rednecks? How dare you.
Kidding man, it was actually kinda funny.
Lpad
July 1st, 2010
6:09 pm
Jake W. – I didn’t know Werth was hurt, too. Man they are in some trouble, probably can’t wait for the All Star break.
Moby Grape
July 1st, 2010
6:12 pm
depends on what you are cursing about, things that affect the team or things that affect yourself. The general impression,whether right or wrong, is that Yuni rants about personal things rather than team things. Like someone said earlier the guy is already on base so there is no difference to the team and the rage did not appear until it was called an error. It is probably part cultural and part personality, but many fans think of it as a negative thing.
Moby Grape
July 1st, 2010
6:13 pm
it was actually kinda funny. Redstick
I hope so, it was meant that way
rammerjammer
July 1st, 2010
6:14 pm
I’m still cursing myself for a typo a couple of pages back.
Fortunately, a co-worker walked past and said “shouldn’t you be working?” and I moved past it.
Dee
July 1st, 2010
6:20 pm
I just read on a Philadelphia website that said Utley will be out a minimum of 8 weeks.
Also did you see where Manuel got suspended for a one game? Here’s the link: http://www.csnphilly.com/07/01/10/Utley-Having-Surgery-Manuel-Suspended/landing.html?blockID=264310&feedID=704
Rob from SC
July 1st, 2010
6:20 pm
Am I wrong to have a feeling that we are showcasing Mike Minor
Snotboogieeee
July 1st, 2010
6:20 pm
Lpad
Werth isnt injured. Jake.W was referring to our Jason – the Heyward guy.
Jake W.
July 1st, 2010
6:22 pm
I didn’t know Werth was hurt, too. Man they are in some trouble, probably can’t wait for the All Star break.
I remember saying last year how lucky they had been the last few years. Sure, they have probably been the most talented team in the division the last few years but in terms of health they hadn’t had many if any major injuries to their team and that is always a good thing. Braves had a bunch of season ending injuries to their bullpen and starting rotation in 2008. The mets had one of the most expensive DL list that I have seen in a while in 2009. It just always seemed like every time we matched up against them Howard, Utley, Werth, and Victorino was always in the lineup and we were always missing one player or another like Chipper, Mac or Esco. Its obvious health isn’t on their side this year, we’ll see how they do.
Snotboogieeee
July 1st, 2010
6:24 pm
Rob
I dont think you are wrong in thinking that the Braves are showcasing Minor. I’m sure they would be willing to move him for a good piece. That would be assuming that he isnt going to be in their plans for next year and by 2012 a couple of the others might be ready. But are we looking at such an important piece that would need Minor to be moved? That’s the intriguing question.
Sopheeeeee
July 1st, 2010
6:26 pm
Damn, I forgot it was an off day.
Lpad
July 1st, 2010
6:28 pm
Snotboogieee,
You maybe on to something. If Medlen keeps pitching the way he is, there really isn’t any room for Minor. And they do need to showcase him since everyone seems to think he was picked to early.
Mike S
July 1st, 2010
6:28 pm
There you go McFann, I just voted 150 times for BMac…
TnBrian
July 1st, 2010
6:35 pm
It feels awesome outside. It feels like early Fall out there. Not a cloud in the sky and very low humidity. On top of the great weather, the neighbor walks down the street struttin her “junk”. MERCY! Why can’t it stay this way all year?
.582
July 1st, 2010
6:37 pm
Junk in da trunk!! Sweet!
TnBrian
July 1st, 2010
6:37 pm
I don’t know if I’d be able to watch the game tonight anyways. I slept two hours last night and have been doing outside work to use up all my energy. If I closed my eyes right now I’d be out cold.
TnBrian
July 1st, 2010
6:40 pm
.582, oh buddy … this chick is the reason I bought some dark shades. Sweetest thang you’d ever meet, too.
McFann 1 :Ô: :Ô:
July 1st, 2010
6:43 pm
WAYTAGO, Mike S!
LAST CHANCE! VOTE McCANN 2010 ALL-STAR!!
Later folks…
Sopheeeeee
July 1st, 2010
6:44 pm
Ahem, vote Marteeeen too please. Yes, Utley’s out but it’d be cool if Marteen was actually voted in to start.
Snotboogieeee
July 1st, 2010
6:44 pm
Lpad
But giving up a first round pick wouldnt be easy. I dont think he should be traded though. He has potential and we all know how quickly a pitching surplus can go away. Cheap, live.lefty arms are highly valued and Minor could easily be required to perform an important role next year.
Also it was Rob who brought up the showcasing so any credit should be his.
TnBrian
July 1st, 2010
6:47 pm
I rarely agree with one of those real out there vents Braves fans post, but this one is sorta true in a twisted kinda way:
“Don’t give Cox any credit for Prado. He didn’t want him to play 2nd base, and didn’t want him to bat leadoff”
I mean, he did do everything within his power short of being mugged by letting Kelly play 2nd base everyday last year. It came to the point where Prado literally forced Cox to put him in there everyday. The leadoff thing is also true in a way. He tried everybody but Prado in that spot until it was obvious to a blind squirrel that nobody was cuttin it there.
cabravesfan
July 1st, 2010
6:48 pm
Thank god Rescue Me is back. Best show on TV
Rob from SC
July 1st, 2010
6:50 pm
Snotboogieeee
I wonder about Minor because there really is no reason why the Braves called him up to AAA. His ERA was still over 4 and we don’t need him this season. I don’t see the Braves trading Hudson or Hanson. Lowe and Kawakami are untradeable. I wound not trade Medlen. Maybe they would be willing to trade Jurrjens.
My moto is you can never have too much quality pitching. Also unless we get a young impact bat I would not trade any pitchers
nolie
July 1st, 2010
6:50 pm
Lotsa questions still about Minor IMO.Hope Bowman is right about the ERA being harmed by poor D, but his WHIP is up a good bit. Course the 14 inning sample size of last year is really meaningless
Jake W.
July 1st, 2010
6:52 pm
What the Hawks are offering Johnson is crazy. If he’s werth that much how much is the “king” Lebron James going to get? Joe is good, but he isn’t that good. At 20 mil a year can’t we take a run at Lebron himself? I don’t know though, New Jersey is offering to make Lebron a billionaire.
Rob from SC
July 1st, 2010
6:52 pm
Snotboogieeee
Plus this is Bobby’s last year. They might go for broke
Snotboogieeee
July 1st, 2010
6:58 pm
Wasnt it the popular consensus that he was walking too many people – increased Ks came with control issues? How much can bad D really hurt that part of it unless they are referring to the catcher/game calling issues.
Mitchell
July 1st, 2010
7:00 pm
GTSteve
July 1st, 2010
5:22 pm
I hate off days
Me too. I want Braves baseball everyday! Of course, if I had said that somebody like Lawton or nolie would say “Isn’t hate a little strong?”
But that’s my struggle.
CB
July 1st, 2010
5:57 pm
Maybe Escobar is Mitchell on a Blackberry.
I heard that.
Mitchell
July 1st, 2010
7:04 pm
The Braves have to sweep the Marlins so they can end the first half of the season with single digit losses in the first half.
That would be redunkulous. If they can just get past J Johnson I think it’s in the realm of the possible. Unless of course Tommy is due to pitch, which I fear he is.
He needs to get it together for real though.
Anyway, a sweep would be nice. No doubt.
That is all. Bye bye.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 1st, 2010
7:04 pm
Hey Everyone,
I’m totally okay with trading away a top ranked prospect or two for an impact player. I really don’t care about it as much as some do or pretend to.
Prospects are just that – prospects. It’s part of the game. They get dealt. Someone work out – most do not.
I have total faith Frank Wren will make the right move. And I think it’s pretty fair to say if we consider ourselves contenders we need another right handed power bat in our line-up.
Over the past eight games we’ve batted .217 as a team with little power and have had trouble pushing across runs over the same stretch that spans 3 series (ChiSox, Tigers & Nats). It’s a miracle we’ve won two of them. Especially against a tough Tigers team.
I’m on the Willingham or DeJesus bandwagon. Let’s go for it. I’m not saying trade the farm, but we’re so well stocked we could/can afford to deal say Minor or Dunn or Delgado etc.
Steve from OH
July 1st, 2010
7:05 pm
Wasnt it the popular consensus that he was walking too many people – increased Ks came with control issues?
I think that was it, yeah. Still, if you K 8 batters in 7 innings you’re still allowing the other 14 batters to put the ball in play. In reference to Minor’s “updated” report, here’s what Kevin Goldstein had to say today in his chat:
Lane (Austin, TX): What kind of stuff has Mike Minor shown to throw up such great K numbers? What would you say is his ceiling now?
Kevin Goldstein: He’s been excellent obviously. 89-94 MPH fastball, true plus change, good curve, I’d up his ceiling to a good No. 3.
I’m much more excited about him than I was this time last year. I always thought he was big-league material, I just didn’t think he’d have enough to overpower anyone enough to to a true 1-2 pitcher (his FB was listed 86-89 in BA’s scouting report). I think a no. 3 projection is pretty fair, and if his control gets back to what it was a no. 2b might not be a stretch. I dunno what the Braves saw, but I hope the uptick in velo isn’t just a mirage or him trying to overthrow. Of course, if it is, trade please!
Steve from OH
July 1st, 2010
7:07 pm
And I’m more than OK with trading Mike Minor, simply because Julio Teheran is (and will continue to be) a complete stud.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 1st, 2010
7:07 pm
PS
This Marlins series is going to be tough as hell. Ohhhh boyyy.
They’re throwing the kitchen sink at us this weekend. Hard to believe they are a sub .500 team with the talent on that team.
I continue to pray to Heyward we make it to the ASB in 1st
Nova Scotia Steve
July 1st, 2010
7:09 pm
I’m going to watch the Mets/Nats. Anyone else?
I hear Reyes is dealing with some back/oblique issues and didn’t pay yesterday in San Juan and i’m sure everyone has already heard the news on Utley.
Kinda eases the Heyward DL stint a little.
nolie
July 1st, 2010
7:11 pm
so they can end the first half of the season with single digit losses in the first half.
I guess I’m even dumber than usual today, but could someone translate this for me ?
Snotboogieeee
July 1st, 2010
7:11 pm
I am not averse to trading prospects either. Just that I think Minor would need a significant return. Willingham might be in ballpark of that though.
Great – Minor starts out in AAA with a 4 pitch walk.