Stat of the day: Braves record vs. the NL East

After the Braves 7-2 loss to the Nationals Tuesday, they fell to 10-12 against the NL East. The Braves are still in first place by 1 1/2 games but with a losing record in their division.

Braves vs. NL East: 10-12

Braves was NL Central: 15-6

Braves vs. NL West: 11-9

Braves vs. AL: 9-6

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Mathman

June 29th, 2010
11:40 pm

Hitting slumps have set in. Only Prado and Blanco hitting consistently.

atlfan

June 29th, 2010
11:52 pm

The team is loosing steam because of the injury to j hey. We need to capitalize on these
Weaker teams. This is a chance to seperate ourselves and we can’t hold serve. We have split or won the
Series with top teams in the league. We should be sweeping a series like this at home point blank period. This is unacceptable! This game may come back to haunt us I swear. Big momentum changer type game. Go braves! I live and die with you!

Luke M

June 29th, 2010
11:53 pm

If only we could play in the Central.

JohnSmith

June 30th, 2010
12:16 am

To be fair, a lot of those losses have come at the hands of KK, who was demoted to the ‘pen. So, that’s one problem solved…

Luke M

June 30th, 2010
12:36 am

But seriously, this guy atlfan is going off the rails a bit. Anything but a sweep is unacceptable? What happened to “2 of 3 at home, even on the road”? You don’t have to sweep, you just have to win series. That’s the formula for success in baseball, and we’ve been doing a great job of it so far. Now the rubber match tomorrow with Jurrjens the Juggernaut coming back is a crucial game for sure.

Boatdoc

June 30th, 2010
1:16 am

:-) Luke, you were absolutely correct until you went off the rails in your last sentence: even tomorrow’s game is not “crucial”. The primary goal for the Braves right now is to finish the season 1 game ahead of the team in second place – whether that’s for the East or the Wild Card.

Jamaaliver

June 30th, 2010
1:53 am

@atlfan,

Chill out dude. You sound like Chicken Little screaming the sky is falling. I seem to remember a 9 game losing streak earlier this season and a resurrection from last to first place within 6 weeks.

Relax, you’re in the hands of professionals.

Techman

June 30th, 2010
1:55 am

I just want to point out that except for W-L & HR, KK is ahead of Lowe in every category.

Techman

June 30th, 2010
1:57 am

also, if you win 2/3 of every series, you are one of the best teams in the history of baseball

Let's Go

June 30th, 2010
7:24 am

Prior to May 10th the Braves were 3 and 9 against the NL East and since then they are 7 and 3. Also, as much as we would like to forget the 9 game losing streak those losses were against the Phillies (2), Mets (3), & Cardinals (4). 11 and 9 against the NL west is pretty good considering that 14 of the 20 games hve been on the road. The Dodgers, Padres, & Giants still have to come to Atlanta. If you look at this Braves team as a tale of 2 seasons (prior to May 10th and since) then the numbers look pretty good. And don’t forget the Phillies and Mets also have losing records against their divisional teams.

Roseman

June 30th, 2010
7:59 am

Why is it that we never play worth a darn against the lowly Washington Nationals? Why is that??
I say it’s because it is the Washington Nationals and we never play with enough intensity because we don’t take them seriously enough. We figured after we beat the kid…it would be smooth sailing…WRONG! I am sick of us playing pathetic ball against the Nationals. Chipper, Brian, Troy, Eric…0-16…UNBELIEVABLE!!! UNEXCUSABLE!!!!!! Chime in…

droopydawg

June 30th, 2010
9:22 am

This seems to be true every year: the Braves play poorly against the Marlins and Nationals and one of either the Mets or Phils. If we had just taken care of business against FLA and WAS last year, we would have made the playoffs. Not sure why it is that we are so bad against these teams, anybody have any ideas?

Dave

June 30th, 2010
9:25 am

@Mathman: Slumps?

Over the last 30 Days:

Chipper is hitting .271 (.349 over the last 15)
Infante is hitting .311
Melky is hitting .289 (.306 over the last 15)
Escobar is hitting .308

droopydawg

June 30th, 2010
9:26 am

“Chipper, Brian, Troy, Eric…0-16…UNBELIEVABLE!!! UNEXCUSABLE!!!!!! ”

Translation: RRRAAAAARRRRGGGHHH!!! I DON’T UNDERSTAND BASEBALL!!!!

Get some valium, buddy. It is not unusual for a random sampling of 4 people from a starting lineup in baseball to be 0-16. I bet at least 50% of every team who played last night had a combination of 4 players go 0-fer.

droopydawg

June 30th, 2010
9:28 am

Dave – Escy is hitting .308 with a .308 SLG. His little bloop singles and sharp grounders are getting old and he is not producing runs or making things happen on the basepaths. He has been probably the biggest disappointment this season of anyone not named Nate.

clay

June 30th, 2010
9:33 am

The Braves are going to be ok. We just need to win series thats all, we dont HAVE to sweep anyone just win the series. I mean sure sweeps are good, but how many times have you heard bobby say lets just go out there and win the series and we will be fine. I think the math is if you won every series in the year then you win something like 125 games. So see we dont have to sweep the Nats just win the series. Remember they are a major league team too.

The braves will be fine because we have done most of our playing on the road this year in the first half, so that sets up real nice for us in the second half since we do have the best home record in baseball. Seems like good cooking for a division title.

williamshakespeare

June 30th, 2010
9:37 am

Jamaaliver
June 30th, 2010
1:53 am

@atlfan,

Chill out dude. You sound like Chicken Little screaming the sky is falling. I seem to remember a 9 game losing streak earlier this season and a resurrection from last to first place within 6 weeks.

Relax, you’re in the hands of professionals.
/////

Here, here.

It’s friggin’ baseball. I’m a serious fan, but these dour souls who have zero sense of humor about a g-a-m-e that will go on as scheduled if you get hit by a bus today, with Bobby Cox, et al, none the wiser.

You feeling the weight of being ONLY a 1.5 up in the NL East? Think about the fishermen in the gulf – scratch that – how about those sea turtles, whales, dolphins, marine “life” waking up to see their beautiful, pristine waters choked by an oil slick.

ONLY up 1.5 in the NL East. What a tragedy. It’s why they play the games, you know – the FUN part is not knowing, the drama, the highs and lows. Helps us not think about the really important things in life.

nobody

June 30th, 2010
9:50 am

What happened to Yunel? He was a relative RBI machine last year. I know he was hurt but he just seems to be dinging singles here and there. Last year all I remember is balls lined through the gaps.

no name

June 30th, 2010
10:06 am

Yunel wants out before Fredi gets here. His bat might not be dinging as well as last year but he’s a damn good ss. Probably an attitude adjustment is all he needs. Bobby does not want to hurt his feelings again but Fredi………

timthebrave

June 30th, 2010
10:15 am

Do you see the national record 34 wins 44 losses. They have some good players. These aren’t the same nationals from a few years back. If we take 2 out of 3 I am very happy. Go Braves!

Jesse Stone

June 30th, 2010
10:25 am

Disappointed in one of Melky’s at-bats last night. Prado had just walked on 4 pitched to load the bases and what does Melky do? Swings at the FIRST pitch, which happened to be ankle high.

RED MAN

June 30th, 2010
10:27 am

Chill out , people the Braves will be fine, a very long season left, if they lose the next four games the will be fine, the other teams will lose also that the way it works, look the braves was 7 gms back at one point this year and look they are in first , like phills was five games back and look where they are, don’t worry about it until the last month of the season come on the second half of the season is not here yet!!!

Me

June 30th, 2010
10:39 am

And that 15-6 record against the Central includes a four game sweep at the hands of the Cardinals during the dreaded 9-game losing streak.

Jo-Bu

June 30th, 2010
10:41 am

The Nats (a.k.a the Expos) have always had our number — they can rake it. If we lose tonight’s game, it’s not the end of the world — it would suck, but it wouldn’t be the end of the world. The most they can do is play spoiler to the Braves. Wins and losses do matter of course, but just focus on winning each series and things will be fine. The Phillies are still in an occasional funk but no matter how they do, the Braves just need to take care of business.

Traditionally, the Braves have always been a second half team. That they have a good head of steam (12 games over .500) going into the AS break is a really good sign. This Braves team is going to eventually play well in the NL East and take care of that losing record. We’ve only played about 1/3 of this season’s games within the NL East and I think they’ll get better with more exposure as the season goes on.

bfred

June 30th, 2010
10:55 am

Techboy up there is right. 2 of 3 is .667 baseball – 108 wins. A completely unrealistic expectation. Win series at home, split on the road = 94.5 wins (assming 3-game series), enough for a playoff spot.

NorCal

June 30th, 2010
11:06 am

williamshakespeare,

Love your perspective. You are absolutely correct.

Roseman

June 30th, 2010
11:12 am

To: DD

I do not consider the 3-6 hitters to be “random samplings” but rather the “meat of the order”…
and just for s&gs I checked all the other NL box scores last night…and guess what. No other NL team went 0-16 from their 3-6 hitters including the D Backs who got shut out. So..what does that tell me…that our number 3-6 hitters did a very poor job at the plate last night. And that’s pretty much what I UNDERSTAND about that BASEBALL game. The good thing about stats and box scores…they tell it all.

Jesse Stone

June 30th, 2010
11:21 am

Yes, our 3-6 hitters were hitless, but box scores don’t always tell the story. A blooper off the end of the bat can be a single, whereas a screamer snagged by the 3rd baseman is an out. Luck is involved. Not saying this was the case last night, but boxscores are not the “end-all”. I can judge a player’s performance by watching him play, moreso than looking at a boxscore.

Joshua

June 30th, 2010
11:48 am

Sorry jesse stone, i did not mean to quote you. That should read:

“I do not consider the 3-6 hitters to be “random samplings” but rather the “meat of the order”…
and just for s&gs I checked all the other NL box scores last night…and guess what. No other NL team went 0-16 from their 3-6 hitters including the D Backs who got shut out. So..what does that tell me…that our number 3-6 hitters did a very poor job at the plate last night. And that’s pretty much what I UNDERSTAND about that BASEBALL game. The good thing about stats and box scores…they tell it all.”

Again, simply retarded.

Ted M

June 30th, 2010
12:40 pm

Glaus looked really slow last night. Slower then usual.

Chief pitchanono

June 30th, 2010
12:46 pm

The hitting will not be there every night, this happens to all teams. Unless this goes on for 3 or 4 games theres nothing to worry about. Our biggest problem lately as far as getting on a good roll is that our #2 pitcher has totally stunk his last two starts. This is a momentum killer and has kept them from getting on a good roll. Hopefully he gets it figured out soon. We will need some real good starting pitching if were gonna finish the first half on a good note. I do believe rite now espescially without Heward, were gonna have trouble scoring allot of runs, so the pitching has got to be there if were gonna win. Its finally back to head to head matchups and this time we are the hunted and it wont be easy. The Phillies are comeing! Just need to pitch well, score runs by any way we can too win each series and finish in first place. Thats been our formualy so far – just gotta keep it going. GO Braves!

Braves are a Team, not one player.

June 30th, 2010
12:46 pm

When you have the bases loaded with nobody out and you dont score, thats a team that needs some work and thats slacking during the game. This team is good but we still need that fire guy in center. You know, Fred McGriff style fire. We have a hole and it needs to be filled and it can be in center or left. Either way we are minus 1 big bat that we need to complete this season and win that WS.

Braves for the run

June 30th, 2010
12:51 pm

I personally think that the braves slack off when playing low level teams and it shows. They just dont put the same fire and drive into playing a last place team. Thats why they always lose to these teams.

The braves need to play every team like they are a top contender but they dont. Thats why they cant win against the Nats. They dont give them the respect they deserve as players and they get whopped every time.

Also, Lowe is overrated and should not have been given a contract like the braves gave. We will live with Lowe till that contract expires at the expense of pitchers like Resop ready to move over to starter. Lowe never was a ACE and should not have been paid ACE money. Cant trade him and his ERA and wins are just as bogus as KK’s win/loss totals. Just take a look at the games, how they pitched and who got the run support. Last night the braves did not bail out Lowe and he blew.

Thanks all. Have a great holiday weekend. Stay safe.

ArkyTech

June 30th, 2010
1:08 pm

John Smith, KK now has the 3rd lowest ERA among starters. That’s pretty much all a pitcher can control. You may want to stop putting your baseball ignorance on display for all to see.

Most of the Braves games against the NL East came back in April when they weren’t beating anybody. Since then they’ve swept the Phils, split 2 with the Mutts, and taken 2 of 3 from Fish. Hopefully this is just a stat that will even itself out over the long haul.

Biff Pocoroba

June 30th, 2010
2:05 pm

It’s interesting, you can always tell the nouveau/casual baseball fans. They tend to come with a football mentality where a three game losing streak actually means something, or getting too excited over one loss. I like this Braves team. Maybe not the most talented team we have had, but they sure do find ways to win and play the game the right way. They will be in this race all year. The Mets are not any better than the Braves, and the Phillies seem to be snakebit with injuries this year. It looks like a three team race, and the Bravos have an excellent shot.

droopydawg

June 30th, 2010
2:56 pm

Roseman: 2 things:
1) Stats tell it all? Really? Then why do we even play the games, we’ll just put everyone’s name into a random number generator and be off. Also, a ground ball to the right side that advances a runner from second to third with no outs is considered a pretty good baseball play, but results in the hitter having an 0-1 stat line. Does the stat say it all then?

2) Eric Hinske is the “meat of the order”? Really? The guy we brought in as a PH/UTIL goes 0-4 and that spells doom?

no name

June 30th, 2010
3:06 pm

The only man in baseball who thought his team would/should go undefeated was Billy Martin. His teams proved his thoughts were not realistic.
Some venters seem to hold onto his thought. They also are unrealistic.
They panic at every Braves loss and offer their expert opinion at what the team needs to do and who to trade for to be better.
Every team wins some and loses some during the season. The Braves are in the race with who they have and folks coming off the DL will only add to their ability to compete and win.
We have a top tier player and management team folks. Realize that and elevate from anti Braves venter to proud Braves fan. You will be happy with the change.

Roseman

June 30th, 2010
3:36 pm

To: DD

I too am a big fan of productive outs, and you are correct, productive outs do not alway show up in the box. With regard to Hinske, one of the greatest off season gets that Wrenn could have made, not to mention Glaus. I never used the word doom, or was implying such. My point was simple…I think we can do better than we did last night, and I am very frustrated that the Braves can not bury a last place team, like they did the Royals. The Braves just never seem to play up to their potential when they play the Nationals…that’s how I see it. I think there are others here who would agree.

Brad

June 30th, 2010
3:40 pm

I love how he forgot to mention that in our last 8 games vs NL East Opponents we’re 6-2. 2-1 vs Florida, 3-0 vs Philly and now 1-1 vs the Nats.

Most of our struggles came in April and early May when the team wasn’t playing well.

Braves Fan Since "80

June 30th, 2010
3:59 pm

We struggled against the expos…. maybe it is genetic

Braves Fan Since "80

June 30th, 2010
4:02 pm

One stat to hold on to .666 win percenatge will get you in the playoffs! Two out of three…… win every series and you will be in elite company

Carroll Rogers

June 30th, 2010
4:03 pm

Braves lineup: 1. Prado 2B, 2. Cabrera RF, 3. Jones 3B, 4. McCann C, 5. Glaus 1B, 6. Hinske LF, 7. Escobar SS, 8.Blanco CF, 9. Jurrjens P

Braves Fan Since "80

June 30th, 2010
4:07 pm

Roseman

I agree with your stat analysis and if your stats are correct we were truly the worse last night. Like a hitter you judge the sum total of his at bats otherwise you are simply jumping to a conclusin

Rhino

June 30th, 2010
4:12 pm

The NL Central is absolute garbage. Cincinnati or St. Louis would finish no higher than 3rd in the NL East, and probably fourth.

http://www.rhinorant.com

williamshakespeare

June 30th, 2010
6:36 pm

TY, NorCal.

I want to win as much as the next guy, but geez…:)

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Ted Turner

June 30th, 2010
9:15 pm

Hey Comcast, where the f__k are the Braves on SportsSouth??? The signal never went out on TBS when I televised the mother f___ing games!!!! Where are my Braves? Where’s my medicine? Where’s Jane?

CaptainMudderland

July 1st, 2010
12:24 am

Oh, my last two dollars…lady@the casino….

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KJones

July 1st, 2010
3:04 pm

It always freaks me out when the Braves are scheduled against the Nats. The Braves just don’t play well against the Nats. It seems that a Brave could squash a nat, be doggone it, they just can’t consistently do it.,

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