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keylargo
June 25th, 2010
10:22 pm
I’m telling you guys that if Wagner pitches this well and does not get injured, he won’t retire. I can’t think of anyone who retired after a season when they were absolutely in the top 10% of their position.
The way he has pitched was reflected by the Tigers announcers who I quote said “man, that’s a closer!”
bp
June 25th, 2010
10:23 pm
Looks like Wags gave Bobby the game ball.
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2010
10:24 pm
Man, can’t believe Wagner is gonna retire with that much left in the tank. Losing him, Bobby and maybe Chipper next year? That’s a huge blow. Saito would be a free agent, too. Wonder how the ‘pen will shape up next year.
Mitchell
June 25th, 2010
10:24 pm
The Mets better win tomorrow or they may never have a shot at first place.
I mean, is KK seriously still pitching for us? Unless we can get a little help from the M&M boys, we’re going to be in second place before sunset.
I can’t believe he’s getting another chance to start. We’re trying to win the damn division. That is not going to help matters.
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2010
10:24 pm
Can it, Rob. If I hear you whine about Heyward’s wrist one more time…
What are you, his mother or something? LOL!
Choppinmama
June 25th, 2010
10:25 pm
What a great, historic Braves game we all just watched. Not every day a closer gets 400 saves. And, 100th homer/game-winning run for BMac.
Everybody back on the bandwagon that left after the Chicago run.
RHR
June 25th, 2010
10:25 pm
keylargo – he reiterated that he wanted family time in his post game interview. I don’t see him going back on that.
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2010
10:26 pm
Wrist…thumb…same difference.
Bartholomeeeew (Bat) Masterson
June 25th, 2010
10:26 pm
Sandy Koufax
RHR
June 25th, 2010
10:27 pm
Everybody back on the bandwagon that left after the Chicago run.
Not so fast my friend. KK is pitching tomorrow.
McFann 1 ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 25th, 2010
10:28 pm
Ah! That was a great win!!
cheshire
June 25th, 2010
10:29 pm
Feeanch, my company has 4 seats in the second row right behind the home team’s on deck circle. Will definitely tip my hat – assuming it hasn’t melted off my head
Enjoy the games you go to – i’ve done Suntrust one other time and it’s amazing.
Rob from SC
June 25th, 2010
10:30 pm
Steve from OH
We won’t win SHI# without a healthy Heyward. YOu know that steve
.576
June 25th, 2010
10:30 pm
D-Backs’ Edwin Jackson throws a 149 pitch no-no against the Rays.
monty
June 25th, 2010
10:30 pm
For me personally Medlen stays as the 4th starter, KK to the pen when they bring JJ back, and JJ becomes the 5th starter as they ease him back into the rotation and build his strength back. At some point you may flip flop Medlen and JJ depending on how well each one does.
Playoffs!!!!
June 25th, 2010
10:31 pm
Heyward just needs a few days off–especially against left-handers. We need Matt Diaz to get back in the lineup. If the can take batting practice already, then he go to Gwinnet and get 4 ABs a night and start his rehab and be back in the lineup in a week. Let’s go!!
Hey, where’s Mets Madness. I have a few things to say to him.
monty
June 25th, 2010
10:32 pm
Wagner seems set to retire. Go out on top Billy.
Choppinmama
June 25th, 2010
10:32 pm
Cheshire: wave one of those bacon-wrapped shrimp kebobs at us in the 1st inning, ok, you lucky son-of-a-gun?
keylargo
June 25th, 2010
10:32 pm
Bat – I think Koufax had a choice. Retire or his arm was going to fall off. That’s why I said if Wagner pitches like this and stays healthy.
Me and you might be the only ones old enough to have seen him pitch, but I think of Randy Johnson’s best day ever and compare it to Koufax’s average performance as far as “stuff” goes.
cheshire
June 25th, 2010
10:33 pm
monty, totally agree. i don’t think there is any doubt that KK will be the odd man out.
although i just read an article where Cox is saying Jurrjens will be scheduled to pitch Wednesday, which would be Medlen’s start. so apparently Medlen will be the 5th starter. that’s a pretty awesome 5th starter to have.
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2010
10:33 pm
Yeah, we’re not as good without a healthy Heyward, but posting 20 times per day about his thumb gets us nowhere, Rob.
cheshire
June 25th, 2010
10:34 pm
haha, will do Choppinmama. maybe if i get really daring i’ll run out on the field just to impress you guys.
Feeanch
June 25th, 2010
10:34 pm
Cheshire, anytime you have extra seats brotha, find me!
todd.finch@medtronic.com
Choppinmama
June 25th, 2010
10:35 pm
RHR: wellll, they can at least climb up the first couple of steps………not too far, though………you’re right……….that jump back down after the KK start could prove injurious.
Mitchell
June 25th, 2010
10:38 pm
I’d rather see JoJo Reyes pitching tomorrow than freakin’ KK.
To paraphrase Mitch Williams, only Bobby Cox would keep a guy with an 0-9 record in the starting rotation.
Mitch Williams of all people! Talking trash about Bobby Cox. Ridiculous.
Sopheeeeee
June 25th, 2010
10:39 pm
And I hope Soph didn’t miss Avery in the booth
Oh, I didn’t. ♥
Choppinmama
June 25th, 2010
10:39 pm
Chesire: don’t you dare!! If you do, I’m not contributing to your bail fund.
monty
June 25th, 2010
10:40 pm
I don’t know how much weight BC puts on rehab start stats, obviously not much considering JJ’s. But it wasn’t pretty down there and the last I heard, guys up here hit a little better. This could get interesting on Wednesday. Seems like he wouldn’t tamper with success, but what do I know.
noleeeee
June 25th, 2010
10:40 pm
If you have, then more power to your ability to observe, but I haven’t seen it. This is what I do. When I see Heyward struggling the way he has and knowing that his thumb has been mentioned as the culprit, I tend to watch for signs of it bothering him. I honestly haven’t seen it. Jerry
I think it bites him some when he tries to hit a ball to left so he is not doing that as much or nearly as well in the last month
bravefaninok
June 25th, 2010
10:41 pm
The Jackson no-no is the second no-no against the Rays the Dallas Braden perfecto was also against Tampa…..has a World series team every been no hit twice in one season and went on to win a ring?
monty
June 25th, 2010
10:41 pm
What? No Met trolls tonight?
Bartholomeeeew (Bat) Masterson
June 25th, 2010
10:41 pm
keylargo_ Yeah, I just threw that out there on a lark. If the Braves were to win it all I could see Wagner giving it up. If not, but look good for next year, it seems that would be hard to walk away from.
Sopheeeeee
June 25th, 2010
10:42 pm
I just saw the link RHR posted for LT’s blog with the intro songs for all the players. Yeah, I’m mad at Lowe for using the song he does. Ew.
Steve from OH
June 25th, 2010
10:42 pm
I’d rather see JoJo Reyes pitching tomorrow than freakin’ KK.
I really don’t think you do.
TnBrian
June 25th, 2010
10:43 pm
Congrats to Wagner on 400 and Carroll Rogers for the shoutout she got from Ernie Johnson.
Oh, and to the Bravos who are still dominant at home!
noleeeee
June 25th, 2010
10:44 pm
I didn’t know that about Markakis. BFIM
I’ll take a career 835 hitter most days anyway.119 OPS+ ain’t a star but ain’t bad
monty
June 25th, 2010
10:45 pm
I’m diggin that Johnny Venters.
noleeeee
June 25th, 2010
10:47 pm
That right there tells you he needs to go on the DL Rob SC
it has been said many times that a stint on the DL is probably not gonna fix his thumb unless you wanna lose him for 60 days, and if so who in the hell are they gonna play out there?
McFann 1 ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 25th, 2010
10:47 pm
Sopheeee Oh, I didn’t. ♥
Yeah, yeah, yeah…
richbrave
June 25th, 2010
10:48 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM:
27 year old LF MATT YOUNG has done it. Tonight he goes 3-5 with a double and RBI. In the process, he lifts his BA to a tidy .300. On May 1, it was a miserable .237. In the middle of the month he began to stir, and for the month of June he’s hit .337 not including tonight. Way to go MATT. 3B WES ‘OLD MAN RIVER’ TIMMONS is 1-4 with a BB and run scored (.284). DH FREDDIE FREEMAN goes 1-4 also with a walk and an RBI (.273). !B BARBARO ‘THE FLAILING CUBAN’ CANIZARES is 2-5 goes yard (4) has 2 RBI (30), a run scored, and lifts his BA to .310. JORDAN SCHAFER breaks the fences with a yard shot as well (1) and raises his BA to .219. SS LUIS ‘THE LIBERATOR’ BOLIVAR has a multi-hit night (2-4), scores two runs and his average rises to .229. Despite all these long flys and multi-hitters, GWINNETT loses 7-5 to the COLUMBUS CLIPPERS.
Pitching is not so good. JOSE ORTEGANO, SCOTT PROCTOR, and CORY GEARRIN combine to allow 10 H including a round tripper, 6 ER, 5 BB, and only 7 SO. Yuck, ’nuff said. Everybody stunk it.
Sopheeeeee
June 25th, 2010
10:49 pm
McFann, I’m sad to say that I did miss Mac’s 100th live. Luckily, I left the channel and rewinded back to it though.
TnBrian
June 25th, 2010
10:49 pm
You saw what the Tigers did to Medlen in the 1st and he wasn’t off his mark by much. He settled in and pitched awesome by changing speeds and throwing K’s.
KK needs a miracle!
noleeeee
June 25th, 2010
10:49 pm
Me and you might be the only ones old enough to have seen him pitch KL
I doubt that seriously
McFann 1 ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 25th, 2010
10:51 pm
Sopheeee I’m sad to say that I did miss Mac’s 100th live.
Cool! Now we have our own little club…
Luckily, I left the channel and rewinded back to it though.
I got to see the replays…
Sopheeeeee
June 25th, 2010
10:53 pm
Noooo, McFann. Say it ain’t so? You missed it too?
Venice Jim
June 25th, 2010
10:55 pm
noleeeeee – you are correct – I saw Sandy pitch on numerous occasions…
Sopheeeeee
June 25th, 2010
10:55 pm
Congrats on your wedding that I wasn’t invited to, VJ.
McFann 1 ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 25th, 2010
10:56 pm
Sopheeee Say it ain’t so?
Well, I don’t wanna lie…but if you insist…
McFann 1 ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 25th, 2010
10:57 pm
There should be a
at the end of that post, BTW.
I’ve done enough rotten things to deserve that punch in the gut…
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2010
10:58 pm
Who do you think she is- Roman Gal? cabravesfan
If anything, I stay on the bandwagon until everyone else is gone or dead, clinging to the edges and screaming bloody murder at anyone who tries to pry my cold fingers from said wagon.
J-Hey
June 25th, 2010
11:00 pm
“Bowman suggests that “some members of the Braves organization” wouldn’t mind parting ways with Escobar, due in part to his approach to the game”
as sub-par as his hitting has been this year, if they don’t have a suitable replacement they shouldn’t even think about trading him
monty
June 25th, 2010
11:01 pm
BC at the very least may have to start platooning Jason, use him against RHP mostly. Get Diaz back, see what’s cookin with him. Jason against RHP, Diaz against LHP.
Venice Jim
June 25th, 2010
11:01 pm
Soph – I’m sorry that I missed it too…
richbrave
June 25th, 2010
11:01 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM:
The PEARLS tied in the top of the ninth 3-3 tonight against the MOBILE BAYBEARS. MIKE MINOR has a solid outing, too many hits (9), but well scattered over 7.0 IP. Only 2 ER with 1 BB, and 8 SO. BENINO PRUNEDA gets to the last strike and then walks the hitter in the top of the ninth. TOMMY PALICA comes on gives up the tying run, and a blown save for PRUNEDA. A waste of a nice outing for MINOR.
LF MIKE DANIEL has a multi-hit night 2-4 with a double and RBI. RF WILLIE CABRERA is 1-2 with a double, two walks, and raises his average to .a strong .312.
Bartholomeeeew (Bat) Masterson
June 25th, 2010
11:01 pm
Well, truth be told, I was a little kid when Koufax retired.
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2010
11:02 pm
RG-
I was referring to the Yankees part of that comment
Woodeeeeee Woodward
June 25th, 2010
11:02 pm
I’m thinking we’re looking good for the second half. Let’s see how Jurrgens does in this start–he’s got the All-Star break to further rehab. Chipper, too. Jason may not see much time in the All-Star game either. Diaz coming back. KK might even think of the second half as a new season. We’ve also got a home heavy schedule in the second half.
noleeeee
June 25th, 2010
11:02 pm
youngster
Bartholomeeeew (Bat) Masterson
June 25th, 2010
11:03 pm
Roman Gal _ Did you see that
EarsSchafer hit a homerun?Venice Jim
June 25th, 2010
11:04 pm
Saw Drysdale in person at Shea one night…Sandy only on TV…
Sopheeeeee
June 25th, 2010
11:05 pm
149 pitch, 8 BB, no-no. Nice.
monty
June 25th, 2010
11:05 pm
Richbrave
“MIKE MINOR has a solid outing, too many hits (9), but well scattered over 7.0 IP. Only 2 ER with 1 BB, and 8 SO”
Hey, that sounds like Tommy Glavine type numbers.
Bartholomeeeew (Bat) Masterson
June 25th, 2010
11:06 pm
nolie, was it you that said, we should be able to tell a lot more about Schafer after he hit his first homerun?
monty
June 25th, 2010
11:06 pm
Cliff Lee has walked 4 batters all year!
Woodeeeeee Woodward
June 25th, 2010
11:07 pm
Would LOVE to see Cliff Lee in a Braves uni.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2010
11:11 pm
cab-
I know, just chose to make my own interpretation is all.
keylargo
June 25th, 2010
11:11 pm
Here’s a trivia question:
What are these numbers?
.875 / .928 / .855 / .985
RHR
June 25th, 2010
11:12 pm
wait. I thought KK was Mitchell’s “boy”. I know he said that.
noleeeee
June 25th, 2010
11:12 pm
we should be able to tell a lot more about Schafer after he hit his first homerun? Bat
nope, t’weren’t moi. gonna take a lot longer than that IMO
keylargo
June 25th, 2010
11:13 pm
Trivia answer
Sandy Koufax’s WHIP the LAST four years of his career.
His record and ERA during those last four years?
25 – 5 / 19 – 5 / 26 – 8 / 27 – 9
1.88 / 1.74 / 2.04 / 1.73
noleeeee
June 25th, 2010
11:13 pm
I thought KK was Mitchell’s “boy”. I know he said that. RHR
he renounced any future support about two starts ago. amazing he backed him as long as he did considering his luv of instant gratification
noleeeee
June 25th, 2010
11:15 pm
Sandy Koufax’s WHIP the LAST four years of his career. KL
kinda amazing since he started out so wild. Big Unit did much the same over his career. startred wild but ended with very good control.
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2010
11:16 pm
Bat-
Actually, I hadn’t seen that! But that’s awesome!
Woodeeeeee Woodward
June 25th, 2010
11:16 pm
Nolee–
Do you think a good outing for KK will do anything to save his place in the rotation?
richbrave
June 25th, 2010
11:17 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM:
Now we’re talking – ARODYS VIZCAINO starts and goes 5.0 with only three hits and one earned, 0 BB, 4 SO. SWEET. YELIAR CASTRO comes on in relief and almost immediately gives up a string of 3’s – three hits, three runs, three earned runs, three base-on-balls and a strikeout in only 1.1 IP. Despite the putrid effort, he gets the win raising his record to 4-2. ANGELO PAULINO gets a hold (3) with 1.2 innings of shutout ball. LUIS AVILAN has a one walk shutout bottom of the ninth for his third save.
Finally away from the BIRDS home field, they bust out with 12 hits and go 6-13 with RISP. Lead-off hitter CF LEE WARE is 2-5, a double, 2 RBI, and a run. RF CORY HARRILCHAK has an exact duplicate 2-5 evening with a double, 2 RBI and run scored. LF CORY MILES is 3-4, a double, one RBI and a run.
MISSISSIPPI blows the game in the ninth. BENINO PRUNEDA tagged with the loss.
McFann 1 ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 25th, 2010
11:17 pm
OK, I’m out…but, not to be a pest here (little late for that, I know), if anyone remembers/cares to share that story told told about BMac after the Home Run, I would REALLY appreciate. It may even be one I’ve read before, but prob’ly not. Anyway, thanks in advance!
Night, all!!!!
Fan since 1977
June 25th, 2010
11:17 pm
DOB – was Frank Wren trying to get KK a good deal on a Toyota with those fellas?
Well, it would free up payroll……
J-Hey
June 25th, 2010
11:19 pm
Would LOVE to see Cliff Lee in a Braves uni.
http://tinyurl.com/36bjz9a
I think it fits him
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2010
11:19 pm
McFann-
The one that Dale Murphy told?
Woodeeeeee Woodward
June 25th, 2010
11:21 pm
j-Hey–He a bad mofo
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2010
11:23 pm
Great quotes from Wagner, McCann, Medlen coming shortly to a blog near you.
Woodeeeeee Woodward
June 25th, 2010
11:24 pm
DOB–Is KK beyond redemption at this point?
noleeeee
June 25th, 2010
11:24 pm
no real idea Woodeeeeee. Meds helped his cause tonight. I’ve already said that I’m not sure KK in the pen and Kris in the SR is a good idea. I don’t have strong feelings either way, but I do worry about Meds IP total for the year a bit.
richbrave
June 25th, 2010
11:25 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM:
BRETT DeVALL goes 6.2, 9 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 4 SO and gets the win to go to 4-5. DAVID BERRYHILL on for his fourth save with 2.1 IP of shutout ball.
C KEN ‘TOP GUN’ SCHLEHUBER is 2-4 tonight, a double, 2 RBI, 1 R, the only R-BRAVE with multi-hits. 1B RIAAN SPANJER-FURSTENBURG is 1-3 with a BB, and run scored.
abwright
June 25th, 2010
11:28 pm
noleeeee, June 25th, 2010, 11:15 pm … “kinda amazing since he [Koufax] started out so wild. … startred [sic] wild but ended with very good control.
Maybe his arm hurt so bad on every pitch that he figured he needed to make them all count.
Woodeeeeee Woodward
June 25th, 2010
11:28 pm
Nolee–
Thanks. Is Bobby thinking that far down the line? Would we see a switcharoo again should Medlin falter in late August?
abwright
June 25th, 2010
11:30 pm
I think I supported KK up til his last start. If he repeats the very poor outing, his next should be his last.
On the other hand, if he throws a perfect game, how could you remove him from the rotation?
unbelievable
June 25th, 2010
11:31 pm
DOB, can we find out why Chipper was laughing so hard on the field?
Roman Gal
June 25th, 2010
11:31 pm
Riaan Spanjer-Furstenburg’s bones must be made of some kind of supernatural material, because it took them extra-long to heal.
Woodeeeeee Woodward
June 25th, 2010
11:33 pm
It seems a bit ludicrous to look at good outings and bad outings from a guy who is 0-9, but who else thinks that KK just had a bad game in his last start? I didn’t see him go after hitters as he has in his best games this year. Maybe I’m all wet, but I’m not ready to send him to Siberia yet.
richbrave
June 25th, 2010
11:34 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM:
Scatterings:
DANVILLE bombs BLUEFIELD 9-4. Five doubles and a triple. Four pitchers combine for 9.0 IP of 4 H ball. Nice!!!!!!! 9 BB – 8 SO, not nice. Rookies !!!!
GCL and DSL nothing new. Must have had a day off.
noleeeee
June 25th, 2010
11:37 pm
I hope they are thinking of his IP totals for the year.
Just commenting here, His K rate is down a good bit this year but his walk is so improved that his SO/BB ratio has improved.
cricket
June 25th, 2010
11:38 pm
Great quotes from Wagner, McCann, Medlen coming shortly to a blog near you.
This sounds like 11 O’clock local news teaser
McFann
Murphy story about Mac went something like this – Knucksie, Murph were filming an add where Knucksie says ‘It takes a great man to throw a knuckleball’ to which Murph replies ‘It takes a greater man to hit a knuckleball’. In 2nd part of filming, Knucksie repeats his line and Mac is supposed to reply ‘It takes greater man to catch a knuckleball’. Mac declined saying his line because as he put it, he would never say he was a greater man than the greatly respected legend Knucksie.
TnBrian
June 25th, 2010
11:39 pm
J-Hey, except that Cliff Lee is a lefty.
What we need is a RH hitter with some thump, not another pitcher.
Woodeeeeee Woodward
June 25th, 2010
11:40 pm
Is management keeping close track of Meds pitch count then?
keylargo
June 25th, 2010
11:42 pm
I don’t know how many innings Medlen is limited to this year but he has apprx. 74 now. If he starts 18 more games and averages 6 innings per, that’s 108, for a total of 182. It would be bad news for the Braves to make the playoffs and have a burnt out pitcher for the playoffs. That’s a lot of innings for a young arm.
noleeeee
June 25th, 2010
11:42 pm
we could use a lefty starter for later series against Phil and I’d take Lee in a heartbeat if they could re-sign him. Not a big fan of giving up much for three month rentals. never know how that is gonna work out
Bartholomeeeew (Bat) Masterson
June 25th, 2010
11:42 pm
Mac should have said, it takes a crazy man to try to catch it.
monty
June 25th, 2010
11:43 pm
IMO there is something a little off with KK’s mechanics this year. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but his delivery is slightly different than last years. Just going on memory.
Brave4life-1995 all over again
June 25th, 2010
11:43 pm
Good game