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ncscoots

April 30th, 2010
3:42 pm

Thrill, LMAO re 3:41…

Salamander

April 30th, 2010
3:43 pm

He’s one of those guys who thinks his life isn’t perfect because it’s somebody else’s fault: Braves, government, this blog, LOL, but SOMEBODY. I’m a victim, waaaah. I’m conspired against, boo-hoo. If only, sob.

I don’t care if someone wants to just lie there and bleed, just don’t do it where I might get some of it on my shoes.

And this is why I love scoots’ posts.

Oh yeah, he has good baseball insight, etc as well – I suppose that stuff is important, considering this is a baseball blog and all.

Desibrave

April 30th, 2010
3:44 pm


NO MORE BOBBY
Going to the game tonight and watch my Braves go for ten straight.

BELIEVE!!!!

BELIEVE…….. Yes you are going to watch the first game of the 10straight the Braves are going to win next

Moe Berg

April 30th, 2010
3:44 pm

haggard–I am hoping for a bounce back and do not rule it out. Would be ecstatic to see one.

Enjoy the game tonight. Wish I could make it to one. Hoping I pass through Atlanta sometime this summer, while they are on a home stand.

Roto Rooter

April 30th, 2010
3:44 pm

I found it interesting that the Arizona GM said this of Kelly Johnson while in Atlanta…. “I think he had some mechanical issues…” Harold Reynolds on MLB Network said this year Kelly is getting his foot up higher and getting his hips through his swing to get more power. He found this by watching tape, why couldn’t Pendleton? Hire Harold Reynolds for hitting coach.

Shaun

April 30th, 2010
3:45 pm

Kelly’s Character, first of all, let me address the fact that Kelly Johnson is hitting better than the Braves’ corner guys. Well, the Braves corner guys obviously have to step up in order for the Braves to have a solid offense. You are comparing Johnson to right now some mediocre-to-awful corner guys. If you compare him to every corner guy in baseball, he still looks impressive but not quite as impressive.

Now, you obviously aren’t aware of the concept of position scarcity. Say KJ finishes as the 6th-best offensive secondbaseman in baseball. Well, he may be good enough to be the 20th-best firstbaseman, therefore he loses value. It’s fine if he’s the 20th-best firstbaseman but if so, a team would have to make up that offense somewhere else if they want to be a good offensive club. If he’s the 6th best secondbaseman, they aren’t going to need to make up for a lack of offense at that position. They just need to be good at most other positions to have a decent offense and they don’t need to have players at other positions picking up the slack.

Let’s take Brian McCann. McCann is extremely valuable because he’s an awesome hitter and he’s a catcher. If he was a firstbaseman, he’d still be a darn good hitter but he’s not as valuable. The difference between McCann’s offensive contribution and other catchers’ offensive contributions is large. Therefore the Braves don’t have to be as good as they otherwise would have to be at other positions in order to have a solid offense. Maybe they can get buy with an average or a below-average hitter at another position because Brian McCann “picks up the slack,” so to speak.

njbraves

April 30th, 2010
3:45 pm

This offense just isn’t very good. You need some power and they don’t have it. I’m sure they will get it going, but there are way too many streaky guys here. Lulls like this will continue to happen.

Braves Fan No More

April 30th, 2010
3:45 pm

I may stay for a while just to piss you off faniva.

Thrillhouse44

April 30th, 2010
3:45 pm

I wish I was creative enough to make that one up!

faninva

April 30th, 2010
3:48 pm

Braves Fan No More

April 30th, 2010
3:45 pm
I may stay for a while just to piss you off faniva.

actually, i just laughed at that.

Glen W

April 30th, 2010
3:49 pm

Interesting, the Braves and Astros are tied for dead last in slugging pct (.339). The Braves are dead last in batting average, while the Astros are dead last in OBP.

So this series will be the battle of the statistics… is batting average on OBP a better indicator of success?

In the other side of the ball, the Braves have a team ERA of 4.34 compared to the Astros 3.95. Although Braves opponents are hitting just .244 while Houston pitcher are getting hit at a clip of .268.

Go up there swinging Heyward, Astros pitchers have only walked 64 batters this year (3rd best).

ncscoots

April 30th, 2010
3:49 pm

Thrill, just do what I do: take credit, anyway, LOL.

Braves Fan No More

April 30th, 2010
3:49 pm

Good. It was meant to be funny.

Shaun

April 30th, 2010
3:49 pm

Kelly’s Character, I believe positional scarcity with regard to offense can be overblown. But at the same time, it’s also an important concept to grasp for a GM and is helpful to grasp if one wants to be a knowledgeable fan.

jim

April 30th, 2010
3:50 pm

To the post that Chipper is not killing us this year ..
A 260 ave with 2 HRs from the # 3 hitter is a killer. His offensive numbers may improve as he had shown signs of picking up offensively before his latest tweak, but with every new tweak, the swing seems impacted and the results decline.
Defensively, he IS killing us. The errors speak for themselves, but in the game Wed night when the Cards put the game out of reeach, Pujols and the next 2 hitters hit grounders past 3B and 1B that should/would have been fielded by better defenders. (And why was Chipper playing Pujols so far off the line in the first game of this series that a grounder 3 ft. fair goes for a double late in the game?)

haggard

April 30th, 2010
3:50 pm

My apology Salamander for the “salamander” on my 3:39 post

Moe Berg–wish you were along for the ride tonight, (though the traffic might be a little brutal) Side streets, here we come. Go Braves!!

PMC

April 30th, 2010
3:51 pm

I wonder what the Unearned Run Average is this season.

Wayne in Utah (Freel would help!)

April 30th, 2010
3:51 pm

Did we ever get an injury update on Yunel and Jair?

Magic Man

April 30th, 2010
3:51 pm

Check back on page 2, I posted an article about the Braves chances of rebounding from this losing streak and making the postseason. The article was written by Baseball Prospectus.

Jo

April 30th, 2010
3:52 pm

I think I would like to see the Braves lose at least 10 games as I like even numbers. I gave up a long time on this team being serious.

TennesseePaul

April 30th, 2010
3:52 pm

Hope this team can battle and win, maybe even sweep the Astros and Nats. But even if they manage to win both series, I will not be on the “This team is back!” wagon. All it will have done is provided confidence to the boys while proving that, at least for now, the Braves are a second to last place team instead of a dead last team.

Wayne in Utah (Freel would help!)

April 30th, 2010
3:52 pm

haggard

Don’t go embarrassing us tonight, OK!

:lol:

Wayne in Utah (Freel would help!)

April 30th, 2010
3:53 pm

10Paul

I would be happy with a couple of series victories, and a return to normalcy on the part of 3-4 of our hitters.

jim

April 30th, 2010
3:54 pm

Perhaps it was because of the hamstring problem, but I didn’t see any readings from Jair above 90 yesterday, and he was averaging about 88 on his fastball. I hope there is not a larger issue here.

njbraves

April 30th, 2010
3:54 pm

The “we want Kelly Johnson” crowd is a joke. The guy was awful in Atl for over a year. Everyone was screaming for Prado to play. KJ is off to a ridiculous star, and good for him, but reality will set in. He’s an average hitter and a well below average 2nd baseman.

bobby's cox

April 30th, 2010
3:55 pm

Update: The Atlanta Braves have officially added a new Turner Field Sponsor-Hoover Vacuum Cleaners. Great Fit-Lots of Synergy-What do they have in common-THEY both offer things that SUCK…

faninva

April 30th, 2010
3:55 pm

Magic Man -

got it – thanks for posting!

dawgs01

April 30th, 2010
3:55 pm

Braves are winning tonight i can feel it. Cant wait to see them sunday if the weather holds up. I have been bashing them lately on here out of frustration and plus you mine as well laugh about it. I hope Chipper Roger Dorn Jones gets his head in the game tonight. Some things in our line up have to change though we have 4 or 5 automatic outs not including the pitcher. Troy Glaus could not hit a beach ball.

Trey

April 30th, 2010
3:56 pm

Let’s go Braves! Time to get some victories, let’s hope the Braves wake up this series!

Hat Land Dub Raves

April 30th, 2010
3:56 pm

From Fangraphs Chat:

12:29 [Comment From TdotmarinerfanTdotmarinerfan: ]
Has Kelly Johnson found the right park and his career year at the same time? HR rate will go down, but his BABIP is below his career rates and is walking in 14 % of PAs.

Friday April 30, 2010 12:29 Tdotmarinerfan
12:29 Dave Cameron: Well, his BABIP is low because all of his hard hit balls are going over the wall, so they’re not being counted as “in play”. He’s always had 20 HR power, and the park helps, but he won’t keep up this pace, obviously. Still, he’s the kind of guy who obviously should have garnered more interest this winter. Teams have made some good decisions in pulling back on free agent spending, but they also just handed a quality player to the D’Backs for no money

faninva

April 30th, 2010
3:57 pm

njbraves -

ya, and remember the foul ball he dropped that cost us that game against the phils last year. People wanted him dead at that point.

dawgs01

April 30th, 2010
3:57 pm

I think Prado will make the all star team this yr. I like the fact that he is always huslting unlike “Roger Dorn” Jones who never husltes lately it drives me crazy. If you are hurt dont play bc he has killed us the past week.

Trey

April 30th, 2010
3:57 pm

Dawgs01, it’s definitely normal to get frustrated, whatever helps make you feel better. I know it is frustrating, but at least you aren’t a fair weather fan.

Goldman-Sacks-OF

April 30th, 2010
3:58 pm

Unfortunately, any franchise that is run like a regular business is not going to be very successful in the long term.

Look at the Yanks. Owned by a family of rabid fans! They don’t want to lose money but if it takes losing money to win, they are going to win!

Red Sox, owned by fans who are dedicated to winning. Their bottom line isn’t the bottom line. Their bottom line is winning.

Look at the Braves circa late 80’s mid 90’s. Took a while but the Braves became a winning franchise because a goofy guy who was determined to bring a winner to ATL spent enough money to do so.

You can be a fan, own a ball club, spend like crazy and still not win. Look at the Mets. You can be a miser like Jeffrey Loria and still have a system that sends you lots of talent and compete, even win, but you aren’t going to have long term success by trying to compete “on the cheap.”

Cheapos looking at a ball club as a straight forward business asset ain’t gonna succeed at fielding a winning team.

Fan owners who throw money into the franchise year after year are going to be in contention year after year if they have the right people in place to build the product. (sorry Cubs, something is broken over there)

McQuirk has a job to do. His job is to tell you that there ARE NO REAL budget constraints. The Braves will get all the money they need to compete. The only problem is, McQuirk’s main job is to lie about Liberty’s commitment to putting a winning product on the field. It’s a trickle down because Frank Wren’s job is to jack you up and tell you he is going to get that power hitting outfielder in the offseason without actually doing it. Then it’s bait and switch time.

It was actually great fortune for McQuirk and Wren. Jason Heyward became the story of the Winter and Spring Training! “This kid is the next super star!” This kid is going to contribute immediately!”

Ah Frank? About that corner outfielder you promised, even though we knew Heyward was coming to camp? Frank, Did you forget? The established power outfield bat? We didn’t.

It was supposed to be Heyward AND, not just Heyward.

What a bunch of liars.

Frank, what about the bat?

“We traded Javy, got Melky and the real jewel was the minor league kid pitcher, he’s really something!”

Frank? The Bat?

“Trading Javy saved us 11 million and we got Melky who is a fine addition to our outfield. He’s versitile, can play all outfield positions…”

Frank? What about the power bat?

“Wow that Jason Heyward is unbelieveable! He’s going to be a star!”

I give up Frank. You and McQuirk win! You guys are right! We do have a GREAT PRODUCT!

BamaBrave

April 30th, 2010
3:58 pm

Jurrjens sure seems to be showing all the signs of a man headed to see Dr. Andrews here in B’ham.

I’d bet my next plate of Dreamland BBQ on it…

Shaun

April 30th, 2010
3:59 pm

njbraves, I don’t think any reasonable fans are calling for Kelly Johnson. Maybe you are not addressing the reasonable fans, though.

I think KJ is better than an average hitter for a secondbaseman and he’s not as bad defensively as his reputation. He’ll have a good season.

But so will Prado. And Prado is younger and cheaper, so even if Johnson is a little better, it was worth letting him go.

So I agree it was good for the Braves to let him go and good for Arizona and KJ. I disagree that KJ is not that good a player.

Trey

April 30th, 2010
3:59 pm

njbraves, I am glad KJ is gone, personally. He was lousy for us, people forgot he was bad with us and think he is great just because he is doing well with another team. Now if he is actually that good at hitting we should consider getting a new hitting coach and then bring KJ back.

bobby's cox

April 30th, 2010
4:01 pm

It is time to consider trading Chipper “Chopper” Jones to an A.L. team while he still has some value. Chipper has aged very quickly. He would probably thrive in a DH role at this juncture as his skills defensively have eroded in the past year. I would think a package of Chipper, Kris Medlin and Vizcaino (acquired from the Yankees) along with cash considerations would be enough to possibly pull off a sign and trade with Tampa for Carl Crawford.

Kelly's Character

April 30th, 2010
4:02 pm

“Shaun

Now, you obviously aren’t aware of the concept of position scarcity. Say KJ finishes as the 6th-best offensive secondbaseman in baseball.”

Lord help me suffer the idiots who simply don’t realize that you don’t play the game paper! If your guy is hitting and pitching and my guy isn’t hitting and pitching then you’re gonna kick my butt!

dawgs01

April 30th, 2010
4:02 pm

I meant Hustling been a long day 1 more hour left. I stick with them through thick and thin. When we beat the phillies with those late inning heroics i woke my girlfriend up to watch the replay and she was pissed i told her when we make the playoffs this fall dont be acting like you have been watching them all summer boy do i feel like an idiot for saying that, but i still love going to the games no matter what and i will keep watching them i think we can turn it around starting tonight

The Ghost of Greg Norton

April 30th, 2010
4:03 pm

Sometimes I think the wind is going to blow me away.

Trey

April 30th, 2010
4:04 pm

Also for the Bobby Cox bashers, they act like he is horrible just because his team is not winning. He has to work with what he has, he can’t predict which players will win the games, he has to use the player that the GM picks up, our GM probably did not use the budget wisely and we should consider firing Wren like they did in Baltimore and replace him. Of course, Liberty Media, being as greedy as they are probably don’t care what Wren does as long as they are making/saving money off of his moves.

Thrillhouse44

April 30th, 2010
4:04 pm

Does Andrews handle hamstrings too?

dawgs01

April 30th, 2010
4:05 pm

Can David Ross play first base does anyone know i feel like i have seen him play there before hell he cant be worst than Glaus.

Trey

April 30th, 2010
4:05 pm

dawgs01, don’t feel like an idiot for that because it is still really early in the season and things can change quickly. I am not saying they will, but it is still very possible.

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
4:05 pm

Trey

KJ had a bad half of a year. Go back and look at his numbers for 2007 and 2008 before just blanketly saying he was bad with us, which is not true.

Shaun

April 30th, 2010
4:06 pm

Kelly’s Character, who said anything about playing the game on paper? Way to change the subject!

If my firstbaseman is Kelly Johnson, he’s probably not going to hit as well as your firstbaseman. If my secondbaseman is Kelly Johnson he’s got a good chance of hitting better than your secondbaseman. It’s that simple.

Trey

April 30th, 2010
4:07 pm

Wayne,

He was lousy last year, but the year before he was alright. He has been no better than mediocre with us, but he is gone now and is thriving.

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
4:07 pm

dawgs01

I looked Ross up last season, and in the majors, he has never played any position besides catcher.

Trey

April 30th, 2010
4:09 pm

Would anyone like the idea of Javy Lopez as hitting coach?

The Ghost of Greg Norton

April 30th, 2010
4:09 pm

dawgs01, in 449 MLB games, the only position David Ross has played is C. For the record, I love the man as a backup catcher, but he’s a career .227 hitter.

Kelly's Character

April 30th, 2010
4:09 pm

“Shaun

April 30th, 2010
4:06 pm
Kelly’s Character, who said anything about playing the game on paper? Way to change the subject!

If my firstbaseman is Kelly Johnson, he’s probably not going to hit as well as your firstbaseman. If my secondbaseman is Kelly Johnson he’s got a good chance of hitting better than your secondbaseman. It’s that simple”

Shaun, no changing the subject, because the STAT YOU KEEP QUOTING are all ON PAPER!

OK using your own logic and your own words:

“If my firstbaseman is Kelly Johnson, he’s probably not going to hit as well as your firstbaseman.

Unless my first baseman is Troy Glaus.

dawgs01

April 30th, 2010
4:09 pm

Is anyone going to the game tonight. The weather is great but that Friday traffick is not worth to me especially the way we are playing. I work in Mcdonough it normally takes me about 25 minutes to get to the stadium during the week on Friday it takes about 90 minutes thats without a game going on. I am staying on the southside tonight.

Shaun

April 30th, 2010
4:10 pm

bobby’s cox, the Rays could get more for Crawford than an old DH that is probably not any better than what they already have. That’s not a knock on Chipper. The Rays are just talented, they don’t need Chipper Jones and they could get a better package of players if they decide to trade Crawford.

Trey

April 30th, 2010
4:11 pm

dawgs01, I wish I could go to the Braves but I am currently stationed somewhere else.

dawgs01

April 30th, 2010
4:11 pm

i guess i was wishing i saw him play first.

njbraves

April 30th, 2010
4:11 pm

Wayne…..You’re delusional. KJ was a disaster for over a year. He killed us in the field and was useless at the plate. You’d think we released Willie Mays the way you folks talk about KJ.

Trey

April 30th, 2010
4:12 pm

Thank you, njbraves.

Glen W

April 30th, 2010
4:12 pm

Folks, its not like putting together a rec team together. There are financial decisions. Is there anyone here who can say that at the end of ast season that they would have made the decision to pay Kelly $3.25M or so to play seconds for this team when you have prado play 2B for less than 500K? Based upon last years results? And knowing that the line-up was LH heavy? You would have made the decision to pay 6x Prado’s salary based on last years result?

It is so easy to act like you know it all with hindsight. It is the most annoying aspect of interacting with immature sports fans.

dawgs01

April 30th, 2010
4:12 pm

Trey if you are the military stay safe and I support yall 110 percent man.

Kashi

April 30th, 2010
4:13 pm

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Trey

April 30th, 2010
4:13 pm

Hat Land Dub Raves

April 30th, 2010
4:13 pm

I’m a big fan of Julio Franco as the next hitting coach. If we can pry him away from GCL Mets…

bobby's cox

April 30th, 2010
4:13 pm

It looks like 2010 has been written off at this point. No trades will be made. They will not deplete the farm system for a quick fix. It is unfortunate, but true. The gambles have not paid off. Chipper-Old, Glaus-Half Empty, Diaz-PlatoonLifer, Melky-Milking for a paycheck. No dough, no deals, no appeals..As fans we will just have to deal. Dang..Hope I am WRONG…

Kelly's Character

April 30th, 2010
4:14 pm

“OK using your own logic and your own words:

“If my firstbaseman is Kelly Johnson, he’s probably not going to hit as well as your firstbaseman.

Unless my first baseman is Troy Glaus.”

Ok, I’ll say it myself….

Well played, Kelly’s Character!” :)

ugaaccountant

April 30th, 2010
4:14 pm

Trey

April 30th, 2010
3:59 pm
njbraves, I am glad KJ is gone, personally. He was lousy for us, people forgot he was bad with us and think he is great just because he is doing well with another team. Now if he is actually that good at hitting we should consider getting a new hitting coach and then bring KJ back.

You’re forgetting that KJ at his worst was still hitting better than the following Braves so far this year:
Melky
Cabrerra
Diaz
McLouth
Glaus
Yunel

He could realistically have been used at LF or 2b with Prado covering 1st. We would not have acquired either Melky or Glaus in this situation.

Shaun-
I agree that KJ is nowhere near as valuable playing LF. But, that’s more of a fantasy baseball concept. In reality when our option was to acquire someone like Melky who was projected to be about the worst LF and is in fact the worst LF starter, or keep KJ, we should have kept KJ. Even if KJ was only the 20th best LF it’s a whole lot better than 30th.

bravesfan

April 30th, 2010
4:14 pm

KJ is gone. Live with it. It was a good decision for the Braves. Glad to see him doing well. But we have a good second baseman.

Trey

April 30th, 2010
4:14 pm

Hat, that would not be that bad of an idea. I always liked his batting style. I am sure he would be pretty successful as batting coach for the Braves.

CraZyTRaDeMaN

April 30th, 2010
4:15 pm

I couldn’t stand the thought of staying home tonight and possibly seeing the Braves lose 10 in a row and see the Hawks go down to the Bucks. I’ve made an executive decision I’m going to see Freddie Freeman and the Gwinnett Braves play the Norfolk Tide. Who cares who wins that game its all about the prospects! Right? Maybe when I find out about the ATL teams I’ll be so drunk I want care who won.

Shaun

April 30th, 2010
4:15 pm

Kelly’s Character, right. But Troy Glaus is not who we are discussing. Kelly Johnson is. Yes, Glaus is obviously not going to be very valuable if he keeps hitting like he’s hitting. But does that say more about Kelly Johnson’s value than it does about Glaus’s?

When did I quote a single stat in my explanation of positional scarcity? Not one in that whole post.

Convenient to change the subject to playing the game on paper and stats when you can’t dispute my explanation of positional scarcity.

Thrillhouse44

April 30th, 2010
4:15 pm

David O'Brien

April 30th, 2010
4:16 pm

From Buster’s ESPN.com blog:

The players with the highest percentage of their team’s home runs:

1. Nelson Cruz: .412 (7/17)
2. Jason Heyward: .385 (5/13)
3. Paul Konerko: .345 (10/29)

The players who have generated the highest percentage of their team’s RBI:

1. Miguel Cabrera: .250 (25/100)
2. Paul Konerko: .228 (18/79)
3. Jason Heyward: .227 (17/75)

Trey

April 30th, 2010
4:16 pm

uga, no I understand that but the current Braves have barely played 20 games and are starting slow. Now if they are hitting like this midway through the first season then I would be able to say that about these players. KJ was like that for like the whole season.

Trey

April 30th, 2010
4:17 pm

CraZy, don’t worry the Braves are winning tonight.

bobby's cox

April 30th, 2010
4:17 pm

Streak Buster solution-Have Erin Andrews handle play-by-play. Surely all her calls of the “Holo Somers” we would hit will break the streak.

Glen W

April 30th, 2010
4:17 pm

DOB… and I am skinniest person in my family. :)

BuckheadBrave

April 30th, 2010
4:18 pm

BravesFanNoMore is just upset, since he is no longer a fan he can’t wear his Braves three point hat when he dresses up for tea parties anymore

The Ghost of Greg Norton

April 30th, 2010
4:19 pm

Will the attendance at tonight’s game resemble an old Olympic Stadium crowd?

ugaaccountant

April 30th, 2010
4:19 pm

Glen W – we could have skipped on Melky or Glaus. KJ can play 2b or LF. Prado could play basically any position. If we’re not going to acquire a competent LF or 1b, better to have two top 2b, one playing slightly out of position, than to sign garbage.

Even worse was trading for Melky. Vizcaino + Dunn + ?prospect? would have been a much better deal for us. Yes, I’m still mad about that part of the deal. Don’t mind the deal overall, but getting Melky is the worst part of it.

Trey

April 30th, 2010
4:20 pm

BuckheadBrave, when we start winning again, I bet his screen name will say something like “Bravesfanforever”, and act like he has never stopped following. Typical fwf.

Glen W

April 30th, 2010
4:20 pm

Hey Soriano looked absolutely awful to start the season… don’t look now, but he has a 2B and a HR today and is hitting 292/350/542.

There is hope.

BuckheadBrave

April 30th, 2010
4:20 pm

Braves draw 20,000…for the entire series

bobby's cox

April 30th, 2010
4:21 pm

I have a solution for correcting our batting woes, bring back Chief Noc-A-Homa and place a Tee-Pee over T.P.

njbraves

April 30th, 2010
4:21 pm

Uga….true. I hate all of those guys,except Esco and he’s getting there himself. Fact of the matter is, this team has no heart. Guys come here and die, guys leave here and thrive. Seems to me there need to be changes in the coaching staff. I respect the he’ll out of Bobby, but his laid back style just doesn’t work anymore. Every guy on this team needs to be chewed out and told this won’t be tolerated anymore.

bird

April 30th, 2010
4:22 pm

Who’s playing SS tonight, if not Yuni?

Trey

April 30th, 2010
4:22 pm

Bobby did chew out Escobar a couple of games ago, but not sure how well it worked.

The Ghost of Greg Norton

April 30th, 2010
4:22 pm

NO MORE laissez-faire managing.

dawgs01

April 30th, 2010
4:23 pm

I used to look forward to coming into the house after doing some yard work,just got done fishing, chilling at the pool or lake or doing whatever and sitting in the AC and drinking some beer watching the Braves but at this rate i am going to have the best looking yard in GA bc it is not relaxing watching the bad news braves play ball

Glen W

April 30th, 2010
4:23 pm

UGA, I was confuded about getting melky too. Was it because the Braves had to take some $$$ back, somehow? Or because Wren wanted to go to spring training with 3 OFers who have played full time or almost full time in the majors? as to not put pressure on Heyward coming in. If so, that went out the door pretty quickly in ST.

But, I think it is clear that the organization did not know if heyward was ready, so it needed a MLB body. But I have to agree that is not what teams aiming to contend usually do… add a body.

So I don’t know.

Kentavo

April 30th, 2010
4:24 pm

I know what the problem is…I haven’t had a drink in two weeks, and the Braves lose 9 in a row. Gonna get a sixer of PBR for the game tonight.

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
4:24 pm

Trey

I don’t know if I would call 267/349/446 mediocre? That is his career numbers, taking into account his weak first year, poor showing last season overall, and his 20+ games so far this year.

Actually, after he returned from the DL, in 80 plate appearances, he hit approximately 260/360/480.

But Prado was tearing it up, so he didn’t get many chances.

I am happy for him this year. To be honest, I understand why he was non-tendered, but I think we shouldn’t rewrite history because he is no longer here.

Actually, he had more range at second base than Prado, but was not as sure handed as Marteeeeen. The numbers will back that up. I do think Prado is the better second baseman, don’t get me wrong, but KJ wasn’t a bad second baseman by any stretch.

Folks remember the dropped popup a couple of years back, but overall he served us fairly well.

But I am not going to try to convince you any beyond this, but the numbers don’t lie. I just don’t appreciate how folks overexaggerate his overall Braves numbers. (you stated he was lousy for us)

CraZyTRaDeMaN

April 30th, 2010
4:24 pm

dawgs01
April 30th, 2010
4:09 pm
Is anyone going to the game tonight. The weather is great but that Friday traffick is not worth to me.

Same way I feel. 60 min drive from Buford to ATL pulling my hair out in traffic, cussing at the dude in the 89 Buick with smoke rolling out the windows booming something talking about forties and bitches going 15 miles an hour from Georgia Tech to the TED or drive 4.5 mile from my house to see a Gwinnett Braves game. EASY ANSWER!!

bird

April 30th, 2010
4:24 pm

MikeInFL

April 30th, 2010
4:24 pm

Yeah, I know when I’m struggling with my job, a good chewing out always does the trick.

Kashi

April 30th, 2010
4:24 pm

we want kj
we want kj
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we want kj
we want kj
we want kj
we want kj
we want kj
we want kj

FUWren

April 30th, 2010
4:25 pm

Will anyone on this team that’s not named Heyward hit more than 20 HRs?

njbraves

April 30th, 2010
4:26 pm

Those Heyward stats tell you all you need to know about this offense. A 20 year old is our only power threat…..great. You’d think the other guys would be embarassed, but I’m sure they’re not, they don’t seem to care about anything.

Shaun

April 30th, 2010
4:26 pm

ugaaccountant, I don’t know if it’s clear-cut that Kelly Johnson was a better option than Melky. Possibly it was and I certainly agree that KJ should have been considered, if he wasn’t. I mean, no one expected Melky to be this bad and Melky is likely a better fielder in left than Johnson would have been. Overall, at the end of the season, there’s probably not going to be a huge difference. Also, you have to take into account contracts and age and things like that, and not just their value in terms of baseball skills.

I disagree that positional scarcity is a fantasy baseball concept. For the Braves, it’s is valuable that they have a catcher who is better offensively than all but maybe one catcher in the big leagues. He would make less of an impact if he were a firstbaseman because they would have to make up more offense elsewhere than they do with him at catcher.

ugaaccountant

April 30th, 2010
4:26 pm

Trey – KJ post all star 2009. Please don’t imply he was bad for an entire season when he was a) good in the second half and b) barely even played the second half. He had a bad half season, but snapped out of it enough that a) Bobby should have tried him in LF in place of G Anderson enough to see how he could handle it so that b) we could at least consider keeping him or get a small return in trade for him. Instead he just moth-balled him despite the evidence below:

Post-All Star 38 69 14 18 5 1 3 9 11 14 3 0 .261 .358 .493 .851

Hat Land Dub Raves

April 30th, 2010
4:26 pm

DOB,
Those are some crazy stats from Buster’s blog. Just imagine where we’d be if he were in Gwinnett and Melky, Diaz, and Mclouth were in there every night. Yeesh!

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