Braves back at The Ted, trying to stop the madness

(Staff writer Carroll Rogers is filling in for David O’Brien today.)

At this point, something, anything’s got to change to shake the Braves out of this nightmare funk. Waking up in their own beds this morning? Coming home to face the Astros, the last-place team in the Central? Connector paving projects to change their routes home?

Hey, whatever it takes to mix it up.

We already know about the worst road trip (0-7) the Braves just completed since the 1949 Boston Braves. Unreal.

That leaves the Braves in position tonight, in the start of a quick three-game home stand – to match their longest losing streak since dropping 10 in a row in June of 2006. (They lost 83 games that year and finished 18 games out of first place.)

I looked up that losing streak and I knew there would be something weird about it. Guess who the Braves were playing when it started on June 11? The Houston Astros. Guess who the winning pitcher was that night for the Astros? Wandy Rodriguez.

Rodriguez was originally scheduled to pitch tonight but because of back spasms he’s been pushed back. He’s a possibility for Saturday. (Some of the losing pitchers during that streak, to jog the memory? Horacio Ramirez, Macay McBride, Tyler Yates, Lance Cormier, Oscar Villareal.)

The Braves could have never imagined they’d be in a worse boat right now than how the Astros started this season, losing their first eight in a row. Again, I looked back over that streak for the Astros and it’s interesting what you see there. The Astros first three series were against the Giants, the Phillies and the Cardinals. There you might have the top three division winners. Their first win came at St. Louis on April 15. They followed that up by winning their first series of the season against the Cubs.

Sound familiar? Gulp.

Some of the pitchers who beat the Astros in that streak sound familiar too. Tim Lincecum. Jamie Moyer. Roy Halladay. Adam Wainwright.

The Braves knew their April schedule was going to be tough. Things are too far gone right now to blame just that though, and nobody is, including me.

Tonight’s matchup

Could tonight be the night?

Former Phillies right-hander Brett Myers is pitching for the Astros. He moved up a day to replace Rodriguez (back spasms). Myers is 4-9 with a 4.52 ERA in 28 games against the Braves during his eight years with the Phillies as both closer and starter. The Braves hit 22 home runs off him (tied with Florida for the most of any team) in 135.1 innings.

For the Astros, Myers is 1-1 with a 3.81 ERA in four starts. He’s getting hit at a .330 clip – including 11 hits given up in his first start against the Pirates and 12 hits in his last start against the Giants – but he gave up only six earned runs in those two starts combined. Also, he has pitched at least six innings in each of his four starts, including seven innings twice.

Tommy Hanson would love to do that. He has yet to pitch more than six innings in a game – which he’s done only once at San Diego on April 14. Rain shortened his last outing in New York a 1-0 loss in five innings, and he was pitching great. He’d allowed only one unearned run on five hits, walked two and struck out eight in five innings.

He might be just what the Braves need tonight. To get a little red-headed, a little hot under the collar (not that it fits his off the field personality at all, but from a redhead who knows, maybe a little fire can help). Hanson can draw on his only start against the Astros last season, Sept. 9, when he pitched eight shutout innings at Minute Maid Park, no less. He gave up only five hits, walked none and struck out seven. (The Braves still lost that game 2-1, but let’s not bring that up.)

Speaking of things not to bring up?

Former Braves second baseman Kelly Johnson has homered six times in the last seven games for the Diamondbacks, while the Braves have homered once – thanks to Jason Heyward’s solo shot yesterday. Johnson is leading the National League with nine.

(Along the same lines, former Brave Adam LaRoche homered twice on Thursday for Arizona, tied a career-high with five RBIs and came about six feet shy of his first career three-homer game. Yes, the win was blowing out at Wrigley. And maybe the Cubs are just bad. Maybe they gave the Braves false hope to open the season.)

Johnson, who is hitting .320, has his nine homers in 75 at-bats for the D-backs. He homered eight times in 304 at-bats all last year for the Braves, while hitting .224. The Braves non-tendered him since he was arbitration eligible and Martin Prado was ready to take his place.

Compliments of Jack Magruder on our notes group, here’s what Arizona GM Josh Byrnes had to say about Johnson’s acquisition and turnaround.

“He has always hit. Based on years of evaluating Kelly and after taking a closer inspection of 2009, we felt like he had a very good chance to returning to his normal self,” said Byrnes, signed Johnson to a one-year, $2.3 million contract. “I think most clubs have to learn to buy low. There is a shortage of teams that can buy high. When guys have down years, we take a good look at that to see if there is an opportunity for us or not. I think he had some mechanical issues, and the reality of Prado being there and his role changing.”

Johnson is hitting leadoff too. (Double ouch.) He moved into the injured Conor Jackson’s spot and has hit .395 (17 for 43) through Thursday) with four doubles, eight homers and 16 RBIs….Not that anybody can question having Prado as your everyday second baseman, but these numbers from Kelly. Wow.

“Of Mikes and Men”

I wanted to mention Pete Van Wieren’s new book that’s out, co-authored by former AJC scribe Jack Wilkinson “Of Mikes and Men.” I read it last weekend and really, really enjoyed it. It made me laugh out loud (try to say the Fawkeer Falcons without slipping), gave me chills at times (think David Justice at the plate in 1991 for first full-blown tomahawk chant), and a lot of insight into the Professor (you find out who he used to look up in the phone book of every hotel he visited.)

They’ve got three book signings coming up in case you want to attend: Saturday at the Braves Clubhouse Store at CNN center at 11 a.m., on Wednesday at Manuel’s Tavern at 7 p.m. (a personal favorite watering hole, where these two fellows did much of their collaborating for the book), and on Thursday, May 13, in Macon at the at the Barnes & Noble at 5080 Riverside Dr. at 7 p.m.

Speaking of broadcasters

As painful as it’s been to watch what’s going on around the team lately, I have to say I have enjoyed listening to John Smoltz during the broadcasts these last few days. I’m sure he’s taking his fair share of criticism on this blog – who the heck doesn’t – but I have to say he’s getting better and better as he goes.

To me he sounded so upbeat in an otherwise dismal St. Louis series. It was almost like somebody left the door open to the booth and he was all excited because he got to sneak in and start broadcasting.

You get the sense of what it must have been like to sit in the dugout next to him for all those years, and Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine. How his mind will jump from “so have you ever been to the top of the St. Louis arch?” to the leg drive in Kawakami’s motion, to back stories on whoever it was for the Cardinals getting all Fs and one B on his report card, to on-the-money insight on whether to pitch to somebody, what to throw in a certain situation.

So hey, looking for something nice to say about what’s going on around this team right now, folks, and there you have it.

More from the ballpark this afternoon. Lineups, updates on injuries to Jair Jurrjens (hamstring) and Yunel Escobar (groin), etc. Construction northbound on the connector is supposed to go on all weekend starting tonight at 8 p.m., weather permitting. FYI.

Braves Lineup

1. Nate McLouth CF

2. Martin Prado 2B

3. Chipper Jones 3B

4. Brian McCann C

5. Troy Glaus 1B

6. Jason Heyward RF

7. Melky Cabrera LF

8. Omar Infante SS

9. Tommy Hanson P

1,301 comments Add your comment

Renegator

April 30th, 2010
1:04 pm

Thanks Carroll

Thrillhouse44

April 30th, 2010
1:06 pm

Perfect team to be playing now. Go Braves!
Thanks, CR.

Nova Scotia Steve

April 30th, 2010
1:06 pm

I’m surprised AJC is still paying someone to cover this team – Thanks AJC and Carroll.

wheelz007

April 30th, 2010
1:07 pm

Please Tommy, stop the streak TONIGHT!!!

big cheese

April 30th, 2010
1:09 pm

let go Braves!! fittin to catch fire up in here.

Change Turner Field to Aaron Stadium

April 30th, 2010
1:13 pm

Well, on a positive note, one of these two teams will win their ninth game tonight – hopefully it’s the Braves.

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
1:14 pm

Last night I posted some numbers about KJ’s efforts after his stint on the DL. After he returned in the 3rd week of July, he it at or near his career norms in BA/OBP/SLG. I can’t remember exactly, but somewhere in the 260’s/360’s/470’s I think.

Of course, Prado was tearing up the world, and all some bloggers could do was point to his poor first half and declare that he definitely sucked and was no good anymore (some were valiant KJ fans, though).

I am happy for KJ. Wouldn’t he look great platooning in LF w/ Diaz right now, or playing second while Prado mans third or first, spelling the old guys.

Redwave

April 30th, 2010
1:17 pm

Look on the bright side everyone. There hasn’t been too much SCREAMING by Chip Caray. You can actually watch a game without throwing things at the TV. Peachtree TV broadcasts with Joe and Smoltz are so much better to watch.

Mark Biles

April 30th, 2010
1:17 pm

A sweep of the Astros starts with a streak-stopper tonight!

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
1:17 pm

Does anybody else think Escobar is a bit soft? Missed 21 games last year to “injuries” and 26 the year before. I hope I am wrong.

Thrillhouse44

April 30th, 2010
1:19 pm

Wayne, I’m a KJ fan, and it is good to see him do well. I just don’t like the shoulda/coulda/woulda game. We should/can/will(?) win tonight.

MiaBchBravesFan

April 30th, 2010
1:20 pm

I said it yesterday: the Braves will take two of three from Houston.

No matter who against, any victories are good victories.

warrens braves

April 30th, 2010
1:21 pm

im afraid that the braves will get swept. they have too much going against them. no offense, no leadoff guy, injured shortstop, and troy glaus will most likely start. this given that this team needs some spark! i love the braves as much as anyone, but im realistic about what the management has added and what was put on the field. troy is a bust that wren thought would provide some pop, yeah lots of pop ups and strikouts. ive watched all the games and he cant catch up to anyones fastball. chipper needs to start hitting. our outfield is hitting a combined 204 avg. there going to make a move when its too late. then it wont matter cause we will be in last place by 9 games. its a shame our pitchers are gonna have good era’s, just no wins to show for it. go braves though, love you guys!!!!!!!!!

Nova Scotia Steve

April 30th, 2010
1:21 pm

Wayne in Utah: Its like I said yesterday Escobar’s groin is bothering him just like Jo Jo Reyes’ knee is “really bad”

jeffrey d

April 30th, 2010
1:21 pm

Peachtree TV broadcasts with Joe and Smoltz are so much better to watch.

A broadcast with a dog and a broom would be better than listening to chip.

MiaBchBravesFan

April 30th, 2010
1:22 pm

What’s fair is fair. As much as I have bashed Frank Wren, I too would’ve non-tendered Kelly Johnson in favor of Martin Pardo. Kelly showed squat in Atlanta, and it speaks to a lack of character that he could not show in Atlanta what he is showing now in Arizona.

Kelly can choke on his nine homers.

Nova Scotia Steve

April 30th, 2010
1:24 pm

I agree Braves do need a spark – we need someone of AAA or AA to come up and inject some energy in this team from an offensive stand-point.

Is Escobar being DL’d?

McFann Ô

April 30th, 2010
1:24 pm

Thanks for the new Blog, Ms. Rogers!

TnBrian McFann changing her name to McMauer shows signs of trouble in our Braves world.

True. ‘Cause it meant that McCann is NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH RISP!!!

He doesn’t look right, either. Maybe it’s just ’cause the team is doing so poorly…

:?:

MiaBchBravesFan

April 30th, 2010
1:25 pm

I for one am a Joe Simpson and John Smoltz fan. They have improved their chemistry in the booth with each passing game, and they are cool to listen to.

Gwinnett 911

April 30th, 2010
1:25 pm

From the now deceased other blog:

“Shaun

April 30th, 2010
10:31 am
Anyone listen to John Kincaid yesterday after the Braves postgame show in 680? He was spot on.

Basically this sums up what he said: All of you people who are ready to jump of the ledge, you may be proven right in the long run. But there’s still a lot of baseball left. Why jump now? Wait until at least June.”

Gee Shaun wonder why Kincaid would have said that? It’s not like “The Fan” is the station that carries Braves games. It’s not like Kincaid’s worth is directly proportional to how many people listen to him and the product the Fan puts over the air waves….. like….. I dunno…..Braves Basebaseball! It’s not like it’s his job to drum up interest, kinda like McQuirk and Wren. It’s not like if he agrees that the Braves are done and are a waste of time that the listenership to 680’s Braves broadcast might drop, therefore affecting what The Fan can ask for advertising dollars.

Nahhh, Kincaid has no vested interest in giving that advice. He’s a neutral observer.

ncscoots

April 30th, 2010
1:26 pm

it speaks to a lack of character that [Johnson] could not show in Atlanta what he is showing now in Arizona.

Ah. And here I thought it was just a bad year. Wonder if he beats his dog, too?

Good grief.

njbraves

April 30th, 2010
1:26 pm

I understand the value of a good farm system, but it seems like most of you would rather be loaded at AA and A ball than win with the big club.

yeah

April 30th, 2010
1:26 pm

they oughtta offer McLouth and a minor league pitcher to the Nats for Nyjer Morgan. The nats may be willing to do that and it would give the Braves a legit lead off hitter. maybe that would spark the rest of the line up.

yeah

April 30th, 2010
1:28 pm

they can tell the Nats that McLouth will be better with a change of scenery or something.

JEZ

April 30th, 2010
1:29 pm

It’s by b-day today, so the braves BETTER win!!!!

Gwinnett 911

April 30th, 2010
1:30 pm

“Kelly showed squat in Atlanta, and it speaks to a lack of character that he could not show in Atlanta what he is showing now in Arizona.

Kelly can choke on his nine homers.”

Funny how Kelly gained some character when he went to AZ. Wonder why no character in ATL, but has some in AZ? Could it be there wasn’t a character builder in ATL?

Tomahawk Mafia

April 30th, 2010
1:30 pm

I have to say that I am ecstatic about Kelly Johnson’s exceptionally hot start. I’m even wearing my old Kelly Johnson t-shirt jersey to commemorate his torrid stretch. Furthermore, knowing what he do about Yunel Escobar and his tendency to milk his injuries, he will likely be out of the lineup for a week and a half. I hope I’m wrong, but when he goes down with the minor injuries, it usually takes him a while to get back in the lineup.

Nova Scotia Steve

April 30th, 2010
1:31 pm

JEZ – my bday is tomorrow and i’m hoping for the same.

Thrillhouse44

April 30th, 2010
1:31 pm

we need someone of AAA or AA to come up and inject some energy

Too bad Gwinnett’s offensive stats look very similar to ATL’s. I guess you can’t measure grit.

Nova Scotia Steve

April 30th, 2010
1:32 pm

I understand the value of a good farm system, but it seems like most of you would rather be loaded at AA and A ball than win with the big club.

Excellent post – at least i agree with it.

unbelievable

April 30th, 2010
1:32 pm

“Kelly showed squat in Atlanta, and it speaks to a lack of character that he could not show in Atlanta what he is showing now in Arizona….”

that is complete BS.

Mikey

April 30th, 2010
1:33 pm

Carroll, While your at it, how about Adam LaRoche 2hrs, 5rbi’s in yesterday’s game…season- .299 ba. .397obp, 4hr and 17rbi’s and is a real first baseman. Great decision Wren.

Mitchell

April 30th, 2010
1:33 pm

I was at Borders the other day and read the chapter on the ‘96 World Series. I couldn’t not do that.

He said obviously it was disappointing to lose but then he said “but you had to feel good for Joe Torre.”

I’m like, “WHAT?! WHY?”

I don’t care that his brother was in the hospital. I hate that crap. I always argue with my friend, who basically pretends to be a fan of the Rangers and Cardinals and whoever but never really watches baseball, about the 2001 World Series. He seriously gets upset about the fact that I was rooting for the Diamondbacks.

If the Yankees deserved to win that World Series because of 9/11 then didn’t we all deserve to win in ‘96 because of the Olympic Park bombing?

I mean, give me a break. My brother was there that night. I didn’t know if he was dead or alive for hours.

That really disgusts me. It no more meaningful for Saints to win the Super Bowl than for Colt fans. Even if they won three years ago. It doesn’t matter.

No offense to Pete though. He’s the best. I just can never root for or be happy for the Yankees.

You’d think it would be enough for their fans that they just won three in a God d*mn row. No, they have to win it every year, obviously. Joe Girradi has to wear number 28 now cause you wouldn’t want to be complacent.

Give me an effing break.

Soph

April 30th, 2010
1:33 pm

True. ‘Cause it meant that McCann is NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH RISP!!!

He doesn’t look right, either. Maybe it’s just ’cause the team is doing so poorly…

Maybe it’s his eyes. ducks for cover

Nova Scotia Steve

April 30th, 2010
1:35 pm

we need someone of AAA or AA to come up and inject some energy..

How about Thurston or Clevlen ANYONE…Bueller???? Bueller???

McFann Ô

April 30th, 2010
1:35 pm

Soph

You don’t hafta duck for cover…that thought has actually crossed my mind a few times.

Rufino Linares

April 30th, 2010
1:35 pm

What time do the Braves lose tonight?

Soph

April 30th, 2010
1:36 pm

Ah, McFann – he’ll be fine. I hope.

I hope everyone will be fine.

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
1:36 pm

NS Steve

I agree on needing a spark, but who in AAA or AA are you going to bring up. Have you looked at their numbers? Please don’t say Gregor Blanco.

MiaBeachDipSheet

Kelly Johnson had a bad half of a year (hitting just above 200) for 1 of his years in Atlanta. Other than that, he was an very serviceable player, with numbers we would kill for today. I think his numbers are a bit inflated right now, considering the park he is in, but the man was always a streaky hitter.

For dipsheets like you to say he never did squat doesn’t speak of what KJ did or didn’t do, it tells the rest of his how very little you know about the Braves. The numbers don’t lie.

unbelievable

April 30th, 2010
1:36 pm

Thurston is hitting under .200 in AAA

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
1:37 pm

Thurston can’t even inject a spark in Gwinnett.

MiaBchBravesFan

April 30th, 2010
1:37 pm

ncscoots: man, you always have a sharp axe for me. :-)

PMC

April 30th, 2010
1:38 pm

Tommy is on the mound tonight. The Braves will win tonight. Chipper and Mac go yard. Someone steals a base…. Hey Wow wins the game with an extra base hit.

Also Nate McClouth cures cancer.

KJ/Prado

April 30th, 2010
1:38 pm

My disappointment is that Wren/Cox/management were able to turn it into an Either/OR KJ or Prado competition last year and over the winter. Since it is obvious Wren never intended to get that big outfield bat he said he was going after, it is criminal that he let KJ walk and didn’t pencil him in at the LF spot, or at least a platoon there.

jaketekaj

April 30th, 2010
1:38 pm

The Braves gave up on Kelly Johnson way too early…. he had half a bad season. When they carried around Francoeur for close to 3 bad seasons.
Imagine him at 2nd base and Prado as Chipper’s successor at 3rd next season (assuming Chipper is going to retire as he said after another bad season)

TommyP

April 30th, 2010
1:38 pm

MiaBch: “Lack of character” by Kelly Johnson because he’s off to a great start with Arizona????? Are you friggin’ kidding me? That is one of the crazier things I’ve seen written on this blog and that’s saying something.

Try this quote for your answer:

“When guys have down years, we take a good look at that to see if there is an opportunity for us or not. I think he had some mechanical issues, and the reality of Prado being there and his role changing.” (-GM Josh Byrnes)

Does that not SCREAM something? “I think he had some mechanical issues….” Hell yeah he had some mechanical issues…. Why do we have so many guys that have mechanical issues and can’t fix them before being shipped off??????????

Soph

April 30th, 2010
1:39 pm

I can’t handle the Braves and Hawks both losing today so someone please win! Preferably both!

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
1:39 pm

Miami Beach

You are such an easy mark, that is why scoots has your number.

Thrillhouse44

April 30th, 2010
1:42 pm

I was going to provide some arguments against Thurston, but it’s all been said. Clevelan appears to be decent, but he’s listed as a RF.

dickfer

April 30th, 2010
1:42 pm

wren sh_t the bed this offseason and its killin us right now

maybe it corrects itself, but i dont see that happening

Carroll Rogers

April 30th, 2010
1:42 pm

Mikey, thought I included info about LaRoche’s game yesterday. It’s in parentheses so you mighta skimmed over it.

Thrillhouse44

April 30th, 2010
1:43 pm

Wren/Cox/management were able to turn it into an Either/OR KJ or Prado

That’s the way the blog had it too.

chin music

April 30th, 2010
1:43 pm

great blog, carroll! glad you brought up smoltz as a commentator. he’s had a few stumbles as any newbie will, but i think he’s a natural at it. i love listening to his thought process on pitch selection and his descriptions of pitching mechanics, and he and joe have a nice little back and forth going.

dickfer

April 30th, 2010
1:46 pm

i do enjoy how they constantly bash smoltz’s ability to keep a clean book during the game

BravesAreDone

April 30th, 2010
1:46 pm

Wren obviously needs to go. Every move he has made from Kawakami to Lowe, to Melky to Glaus has been a total failure.

dickfer

April 30th, 2010
1:47 pm

inability not ability
sorry

Son of Smoltz

April 30th, 2010
1:48 pm

Smoltz and Joe have been GREAT on the broadcast. Smoltz’s incite has been unparalleled. Best braves announcing combo they’ve ever had!

Mixxo

April 30th, 2010
1:48 pm

Soph – I can’t handle the Braves and Hawks both losing today so someone please win! Preferably both!

That would be nice. I just don’t see a win from either team. :(

The Hawks don’t have the cajones to play a “full” game and the Braves….well, we’re getting #10.

BravesAreDone

April 30th, 2010
1:49 pm

And with the team built how it is are people really all that surprised with the way it is playing? I mean let’s be realistic here.

BlueDevilBrave

April 30th, 2010
1:50 pm

Thanks for the new blog Carroll!

But you said Tommy gave up an earned run in the Mets loss which isn’t true. Reyes scored on Chipper’s throwing error.

Petco Pecker

April 30th, 2010
1:50 pm

Irregardless of the reason Kincaid said what he said about not giving up on the season yet, it’s still true. As terrible as this past road trip was, we are only in the first month of the season.

Take the prozac already!

Soph

April 30th, 2010
1:52 pm

The Hawks don’t have the cajones to play a “full” game and the Braves….well, we’re getting #10.

Mixxo, they will too win. Bank on it! Ok, no don’t really bank on it but I do have a good feeling about both today.

MatthewH

April 30th, 2010
1:54 pm

So Carroll, I assume that’s your customer review on the Amazon website for Pete’s book?
And for the love of all that is holy, why do you have mention what is going on in Arizona?!? I had finally gotten over all of the “discussion” that occurred on the other blog. It’s like throwing raw meat to a pack of wolves.

Youngerthan Thatnow

April 30th, 2010
1:54 pm

Carroll… it’s funny that you mentioned Smoltzie in the blog… a couple of us were just talking about that earlier today. His first game was… ah… well… eh… well, I’ll put it like this, he has really improved every game and is doing a servicable job. His real insights to pitching are informative and impressive. And he’s dropping a little road story (not the lame jokes) on us every then and now. He’s catching on well…

But what do I know… I’ve always enjoyed Sutton and Chip too.

Carroll Rogers

April 30th, 2010
1:55 pm

Yes MatthewH, that was my review.

Sorry to rip off old scaps. I’m blaming notes group, which came yesterday and I saw that quote from Arizona’s GM.

Youngerthan Thatnow

April 30th, 2010
1:56 pm

Wayne in Utah… short night wasn’t it.

Carroll Rogers

April 30th, 2010
1:56 pm

Oops meant unearned run, BlueDevilBrave, let me go in and fix that. Thx

Lefty

April 30th, 2010
1:56 pm

Thanks for the tip regarding Pete’s book. I’ll definitely pick up a copy this weekend.

chris

April 30th, 2010
1:56 pm

Based on what we’ve seen from the combination of Nate/Diaz/Melky…why are we not at least exploring the option of signing Jermaine Dye? Yes I realize he’s like 36 yrs old and will probably bat about .265, but the guys still has pop. He hit what, like 28 HR & 75 RBI’s last year? I’d take that over this combo of Diaz/Melky in LF. And whats the word on Jordan S.? Injured, playing in AAA..what? Why not bring him up, bat him leadoff and play CF? He showed last year he can hit (when healthy; after the first series against Philly he had a hurt wrist and told no one – therefore making himself look pathetic at the plate).

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
1:58 pm

Youngerthan

When you are a literal insomniac, they are ALL short nights.

McFann Ô

April 30th, 2010
1:58 pm

Soph

Yeah, I guess so…I hope so…

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
2:01 pm

Chris

Schafer is in extended spring training in Florida, and will report to AAA soon. Hopefully by mid-May. If he hits there, he might be an option in a couple of months or so.

On Dye, he has stated he will not play for 1.5 million. I think he is not going to get a contract, if he is going to hold the salary line. The Kenny Lofton syndrome.

jeffrey d

April 30th, 2010
2:01 pm

Funny how Kelly gained some character when he went to AZ. Wonder why no character in ATL, but has some in AZ? Could it be there wasn’t a character builder in ATL?

Kelly Johnson is 28 years old. You mean to tell me that he learned all of his “character” the couple of months he’s been in Arizona? And what about KJ says that he didn’t have “character” in Atlanta?

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
2:02 pm

Soph

I will be counting on those positive vibes for the Jazz later tonight……around 10pm east coast time.

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
2:04 pm

Cleven might be a possibility, if one of our OF’ers goes down for a while? Not that I would be hoping for an injury, but if somebody got an “Escobar groin” pull or something.

Soph

April 30th, 2010
2:04 pm

Wayne – good luck to your boys too. I think y’all got it in the bag!

dpelfrey

April 30th, 2010
2:04 pm

Something to potentially take from tonight, the sign of a true emerging ace is his ability to go out there and stop the bleeding. I’m seeing a maximum effort shutdown performance from Tommy tonight.

And to look on the bright side, everyone in this division could be hovering around .500 for most of the season. At least 2 teams aren’t running away from the rest of the pack, unless you really think the Muts can keep it up.

Shaun

April 30th, 2010
2:05 pm

What the heck does that mean? Kelly Johnson has “character” now?

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
2:06 pm

dpelfrey

Tommy had that same effort going Sunday against the Mets, but the rain muddied up the waters.

Youngerthan Thatnow

April 30th, 2010
2:06 pm

Wayne… once again, you remember I mentioned earlier about my twin. LOL! I am an insomniac too… always have been. My wife can sleep standing straight up, but me… I might average 3 hours a night, and I’ve been doing that for well over 20 years… even during the road warrior days.

Well, I may hear it for this, but… I’m about to watch the Cubs and D’Backs. I’ll let you guys know how our ex’s are doing.

Soph

April 30th, 2010
2:06 pm

Kelly’s like a ghost. He’ll haunt this blog forever and ever.

Shaggy1973

April 30th, 2010
2:09 pm

From the story: “I think he had some mechanical issues.” So what exactly do you think the D-backs saw that TP couldn’t?

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
2:10 pm

Shaun

Here’s the rub on KJ. Prado earned the right to get the job at second with his bat and his steady, if unspectacular glove. Trouble is, KJ was a lesser outfielder than Diaz in the days he roamed left. He was adequate at second, but when hitting was an asset.

I don’t think the Atlanta brass gave any thought to using Prado as a rover, which in hindsight might have been a smart move.

I agreed with non-tendering him, but was hopeful that they would have tried to have worked out something to keep him on board…….like negotiating with him after the non-tender.

But then again, maybe he truly needed a change of scenery. I am happy for him, but sad that we are not reaping those rewards.

Glavdog

April 30th, 2010
2:11 pm

Anyone read the MSN/Fox Sports article on Damon buying the entire Tigers team Jersey Robes with their names on them? So he’s hitting, leading a clubhouse, and adding some of that veteran flare that the Braves could use. And for $8 mil, which is the equivalent of about 1 beer sold per person attending each Turner Field home game.

Joe Fan

April 30th, 2010
2:11 pm

Heard a rumor that a MLB game was being played tonight at Turner Field. Can anyone confirm that?

AppalachiaBrave

April 30th, 2010
2:12 pm

Carroll – When Kelly and Jeff were struggling in ATL where was the hitting coach to work with them and fix these problems. That’s all I’m saying….. GO KELLY GO!

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
2:12 pm

Are they playing on WGN?

Shaggy1973

April 30th, 2010
2:13 pm

I think i can remedy the leadoff spot also. Let’s just bat the pitcher first and that out of the way.

brad

April 30th, 2010
2:14 pm

I, like Mikey, put this on Wren. The Braves haven’t had an off-season better than “lukewarm” since Wren took over. The main thing this year was should have been to get a big (proven) bat, but apparently that’s asking too much.

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
2:14 pm

Lunch time……later.

LWB

April 30th, 2010
2:15 pm

Maybe they should hire Alyssa Milano as the hitting coach. She’s a huge baseball fan and knows the game pretty well. I have to believe her presence would put some life back into the clubhouse and the offense couldn’t possibly get any worse……right? Come on Liberty…make it happen!!

Shaun

April 30th, 2010
2:15 pm

Kelly Johnson is a solid hitter and not as bad a defensive player as his reputation. He was injured last year and Prado is also a very good player, obviously. The Braves decided to go with Prado. As Carroll said, who can argue with that move, especially considering Prado is a couple of years younger and cheaper?

If everyone remembers from past years, I’m a huge Kelly Johnson fan. I was defending him to a fault last year. But hindsight is 20/20 and it’s hard to argue with the decision, even if you are Kelly Johnson’s biggest fan. If they move him anywhere else, he’s not going to have the same value as he would as a secondbaseman. He’s probably not good enough defensively to play short or centerfield. He’s probably not a good enough hitter to play a corner position every day. Basically his only position where you get solid value out of him as an everyday player is secondbase, so the Braves went with the younger, cheaper option.

CraZYtRaDeMaNN

April 30th, 2010
2:16 pm

Thats it, finally someone figured out Glaus’s problem. Quick someone help Glaus find some Character!!!

Salamander

April 30th, 2010
2:16 pm

Irregardless of the reason Kincaid said what he said about not giving up on the season yet, it’s still true. As terrible as this past road trip was, we are only in the first month of the season.

You lost me at ir.

Youngerthan Thatnow

April 30th, 2010
2:16 pm

Lenn Casper and Bob Brenley just did about a two minute rant on how well KJ and Rochy are doing in Arizona… and they laid it out there that they were teammates in Atlanta as well, but didn’t have these kind of numbers there.

I’ve got a feeling that I haven’t heard the last on that topic during today’s game.

Just thought you guys would want to know…

Wayne in Utah

April 30th, 2010
2:17 pm

You folk on Frank Wren……are you forgetting Javier Vazquez, Jair Jurrjens, Nate McLouth, Eric Hinske, Billy Wagner, TSaito, and the list goes on. KK has been a good addition. What have I forgotten?

Some folks are never satisfied.

We new Glaus was going to be a science experiment. And Lowe, well he will end up winning 12-15 games again, in my estimation. Everybody forgets the disaster that was 2008’s rotation and pitching staff.

pat

April 30th, 2010
2:19 pm

I think Smoltz is a decent broadcaster…Anybody is better than that first class idiot Joe Morgan on ESPN. Listening to him makes me wonder how the hell somebody that dumb could make the hall of fame.

Shaun

April 30th, 2010
2:19 pm

When Kelly and Jeff were struggling in ATL where was the hitting coach to work with them and fix these problems. That’s all I’m saying….. GO KELLY GO!

You mean the hitting coach whose team is 4th in the NL in runs scored over his tenure? You mean the hitting coach that Kelly had 3 out of 4 good seasons with?

Thrillhouse44

April 30th, 2010
2:20 pm

Welcome to BF Fest.

pat

April 30th, 2010
2:20 pm

After Wren, it’s clear we should never take any cast offs from the Orioles.

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