Jurrjens and Escobar injured in series finale

St. Louis – The hits keep coming for the Braves, just not the kind they need.

Starting pitcher Jair Jurrjens left with a strained left hamstring after the first inning and shortstop Yunel Escobar exited with a groin injury later in the Braves’ 10-4 loss Thursday against the Cardinals, which capped a horrid 0-7 trip.

“I think J.J. has a good chance to make his next start,” said manager Bobby Cox, whose last-place Braves have a nine-game losing streak. “I’m not sure about Escobar. He gets that [injury] once in a while and it takes a little while, so we’ll see. There’s no off days, so we’ll see tomorrow.”

The Braves finished an 0-7 trip that was the worst in six decades for the franchise, since the 1949 Boston Braves went 0-8 at Philadelphia and Brooklyn.

Jurrjens allowed a three-run homer by David Freese in the first inning and was replaced by reliever Kris Medlen to begin the second. He said he felt a mild  hamstring twinge a few days ago during a conditioning sprint, but thought he’d be able to pitch Thursday without favoring it.  He was wrong.

“I really didn’t aggravate it” in the game, he said. “Just a little bit of caution; I was scared to put pressure on it. I felt it a little in the bullpen, and when I came in the game I was just trying to not put so much pressure on it, to use all arm. It wasn’t working so well.”

Cox and pitching coach Roger McDowell decided to replace him after one inning when Jurrjens (0-3) conceded he was favoring the leg. He said he hoped to make his next scheduled start.

“We’ll see how it bounces back,” he said. “Hopefully by tomorrow it’s getting better.”

Escobar strained his left adductor muscle  fielding a grounder and throwing to first base in the seventh inning. After the game, he said through a team spokesman that he could possibly return in a few days.

Cox, noting that Escobar’s previous groin injuries have usually required several days to heal, said the Braves would not make any move to replace him before they saw how he felt in the next couple of days.

After Troy Glaus pinch-hit for Escobar in the eighth, Omar Infante moved from third base to shortstop and Eric Hinske from first to third.

278 comments Add your comment

Kitis

April 29th, 2010
2:26 pm

Is there a better time to be an Atlanta sports fan? Eat your heart out Cleveland, we’re really LAST.

GTFan

April 29th, 2010
2:27 pm

Im first, Braves last.

GTFan

April 29th, 2010
2:27 pm

I’m 2nd and 3rd, Braves…. still last.

Gary

April 29th, 2010
2:28 pm

These ARE your father’s Braves!

Gary

April 29th, 2010
2:29 pm

Can we get one of these strained hammys for Lowe, too?

Bill Mc

April 29th, 2010
2:29 pm

This may be the worst farewell tour of all time.

bravessuck!

April 29th, 2010
2:30 pm

Hey Frank Wrens, do us all a favor and blow your brains out! You SUCK!!!

Big Al

April 29th, 2010
2:34 pm

Hey Wrens quit helping please!

Matt

April 29th, 2010
2:34 pm

Awesome. Unfortunately finishing last in baseball isn’t like finishing last in football or basketball. It’s possible for the #1 pick to be productive in year 1 for football and basketball. Looking at 3ish years before they are ready.

This could be the worst possible season for Heyward to be a rookie. WIth absolutely no help around him how can he be expected to have a productive year??

Hooter Girl

April 29th, 2010
2:38 pm

Bravessuck, I will be praying for you.

Delmar

April 29th, 2010
2:45 pm

I wouldn’t want to pitch anymore either, down 3-0 in the first you know your offense isn’t going to score that much so why keep going back out there?

NY Frenchy

April 29th, 2010
2:49 pm

After the 9 game road trip the season will be over for the Bad News Bravos, so sad Booby shoulda left last year

Jesus

April 29th, 2010
2:54 pm

Is there no end in sight? I am downright disgusted with Frank Wren. What does he care though, he has no problem going to the bank with his huge check. He might as well be wearing a ski mask.

Matt

April 29th, 2010
2:58 pm

Bobby should have left years ago… when the Braves were being ousted in the first round of the playoffs with regularity. The following year, when they didn’t make the post season he should have been gone. I’m not at all surprised by this at all… the pitching staff overachieved last year and if your team is banking on a 20 year old rookie to deliver you offense for you, you’re doomed. I love Heyward, don’t get me wrong, but there’s way too much pressure on the kid to perform and I personally think it severely hamper his maturation in MLB.

and then there’s Troy Glaus and Chipper Jones, both were questions marks going in and both questions have been answered. a) yes, Glaus is done b) yes, Chipper is done.

At least Vasquez is playing horrible up in NY. Seriously, NOBODY is coming through on this team. Chipper needs to be dealt to an AL team where he can be a DH and possibly salvage some dignity at the end of his career.

ranger

April 29th, 2010
2:58 pm

This is embarassing. Good thing no one on the Braves gives a rat’s tailbone.

Any word on the extent of JJ injury? Maybe he wanted to quit early and cause he knows we ain’t going to score 4 runs

Thank God for Book Rule doubles saved us at least two runs in the series

PMC

April 29th, 2010
3:02 pm

Turn out the lights….

ranger

April 29th, 2010
3:02 pm

You had to figure the Cards would have to stop toying with us. You can tell the Cards simply do not take the Braves seriously.

ranger

April 29th, 2010
3:04 pm

corkylovesbeer

April 29th, 2010
3:07 pm

Good afternoon,

I am tipping my cap to the Cardinals. They are a really good team. Our hitting will come around this weekend vs the Astros. We have really good team chemistry. IT is very early in the season. We are playing good baseball. They are just hitting in places we are not positioned. Go Bravos!

boomerfan

April 29th, 2010
3:11 pm

Why take Medlen out? He was pitchen good.

Casey Stinkle

April 29th, 2010
3:14 pm

Corky, you have obviously had too much beer today. Our team chemistry is like mixing sulphuric acid with tin.

Mr. Obvious

April 29th, 2010
3:15 pm

RE: Braves 4th Starter

44-Year–Old John Smotlz > Jair Jurrjens w/Strained Hamstring

—————————————————————————

RE: Braves 5th Starter

44-Year–Old John Smotlz > Kenshin Kawakami

Matt

April 29th, 2010
3:18 pm

What in the World did we do to anger the Baseball Gods this year?? This is beyond pathetic already. Someone in the front office better WAKE UP RIGHT NOW, because all the platitudes in the world don’t mean a thing when you keep losing.

J. heyward

April 29th, 2010
3:20 pm

I got a hit…I got a hit.. i got a hit

Mr. Turnip-Green Jeans

April 29th, 2010
3:22 pm

corkylovesbeer: “I am tipping my cap to the Cardinals. They are a really good team. Our hitting will come around this weekend vs the Astros. We have really good team chemistry. IT is very early in the season. We are playing good baseball. They are just hitting in places we are not positioned. Go Bravos!”

Mr. Cox?

ranger

April 29th, 2010
3:22 pm

Was it Chipper or someone else that just announced this is his last year

larry

April 29th, 2010
3:23 pm

The braves have not scored over 4 runs in 11 straight and if they dont score 2 runs in three innings it will be 12…. I hate this i look forward to braves season every year and the past couple i have lost interest when it hits september bc they are out of it but now it could be May they are out

KnightInATL

April 29th, 2010
3:23 pm

I was just trying to figure out the same thing. Who were Powell and Sutton talking about?

CRACK HEAD

April 29th, 2010
3:24 pm

WOOOOO EEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

DAT FISH WIT DA TENNIS SHOES IS LOOKING AT ME!!!!

j

April 29th, 2010
3:25 pm

Larry,

I am with you bro. At least they are not teasing us this year! F’n A!

Greg

April 29th, 2010
3:26 pm

Hate to say it, but I told you so, and I did it again & again, beginning in February. When we all saw the Braves’ cheapskate moves before the season began, and when you take out all the pre-season hype (which happens in every Major League city), what we were left with was mediocrity and a prayer. We’re down to wishin’ and hopin’. But it ain’t going to happen.

Roto Rooter

April 29th, 2010
3:28 pm

@GT Fan – I think we should adopt that sign on (I’m First, Braves Last) for the rest of the year. Heck, I’m 24th and still higher in the standings than the Braves.

Rebecca Woods

April 29th, 2010
3:28 pm

I retired this past year to Panama City and the Braves aren’t shown here; I guess I should be grateful they’re not. This is d**n pitiful.

corkylovesbeer

April 29th, 2010
3:28 pm

Turnip, I am staying positive. Mr Wren commented this morning that if the Fal-Clowns started the season 0-2….there wouldn’t be that much concern.

ranger

April 29th, 2010
3:34 pm

Now what is that called when the ball hits the bat and goes out of the park? I thought the Braves were not allowed to do that

Tmac

April 29th, 2010
3:37 pm

A good sign your baseball teams GM doesn’t know what the heck he is doing…

When he is quoted comparing his team to another team in the same city different sport in a hypothetical situation to try and take the heat off his team.

Good Job FW. Well done.

Roto Rooter

April 29th, 2010
3:42 pm

Wow, there is nothing positive to talk about so the announcers are hyping “the best curveball in the Braves minor league system.” At least Colby Rasmus is helping my rotisserie team.

Tmac

April 29th, 2010
3:45 pm

“Turnip, I am staying positive. Mr Wren commented this morning that if the Fal-Clowns started the season 0-2….there wouldn’t be that much concern.”

Hey Corkylovesbeer & Frank Wren: Don’t kid yourself. If the Falcons have missed the playoffs 4 years in a row and looking like 5 years in the first month and playing as poorly as your team… the fans and media would be all over that team and Thomas Dimitrof too. Especially when the GM is in complete denial.

Roto Rooter

April 29th, 2010
3:46 pm

Yeah, wasn’t that stupid. Bobby Cox is telling the Cardinals what to pay Pujols? He should be telling his own management to spend $50 million for some players.

Joe

April 29th, 2010
3:48 pm

The Braves need a new GM Frank Wren isn’t getting the job done point blank. Trade Chipper Jones to an American League team cause he’s only good to be a DH now at this point of his career.

Roto Rooter

April 29th, 2010
3:49 pm

I wonder if that prospect who got himself kicked out of the braves farm system for being with a prostitute did it on purpose so he could get out. They should have kept him, at least the Braves could say one of their players could swing the bat.

Tmac

April 29th, 2010
3:52 pm

lmao Roto. well done.

Roto Rooter

April 29th, 2010
3:52 pm

Escobar, a chipper off the ol’ block.

dawgs01

April 29th, 2010
3:52 pm

I have tickets to Saturday and Sundays game. I just told my girlfriend we might be the only people there. How are we looking today i know we are losing but are there any positives. I am stuck at work. Are we playing like we hung out with Bob Marley before the game. I heard Chipper (roger dorn) Jones aint playing. They should play clown music when we take the field you know like when all the clowns pile out of the car. I love the Braves and it makes me feel better picking on them so no one tell me that i am not a true fan. I stick out with them every year no matter what. I just wish we played with more enthusiasm then the losses would not be that bad but it is like they dont care sometimes i know they do and baseball is not played with the emotion of football but hell at least hustle thats to you chipper your better than that

Disappointed Braves Fan

April 29th, 2010
3:52 pm

I would leave the game to with a pulled “anything” if I was going to lose 9 games in a row too!!

Disappointed Braves Fan

April 29th, 2010
3:53 pm

Only positive from today is Heyward went yard!! I will be there saturday as well, prolly with a Brown paper bag over my head.

Larry M

April 29th, 2010
3:58 pm

Can’t wait to see how Leo “Rose-Colored-Glasses” Mazzone tries to spin this one tomorrow morning on the radio:

“We’re just not getting any balls bouncing our way.”

“We’re not mathematically eliminated yet!”

“We’ve just run up against a slew of great teams and pitchers like Kyle Kendrick.”

“You gotta tip your hat to the other team sometimes.”

etc etc.

Tmac

April 29th, 2010
3:59 pm

Let’s see, we’re getting are teeth kicked in right from the jump.
our starting pitcher leaves after 1 inning with a possible hammy.
some more teeth kicking…
Heyward goes yard on a good swing, but it’s completely meaningless.
more teeth kickin…cards with dbl digits.
Escobar leaves game with a groin…

Other than that, everything’s great!

alphadawg

April 29th, 2010
3:59 pm

Can you imagine what it must be like in that clubhouse right now?

dawgs01

April 29th, 2010
4:03 pm

disappointed braves fan- i thought about the paper bag too. Sunday we are taking the dog. Me and him might have bags over our heads.. The only thing good about the losing streak is that the post are hilarious and i know it is from frustration. i am kind of glad i dont have to watch them tonight but it has become comical.

SRF

April 29th, 2010
4:03 pm

I bet they are laughing in the clubhouse that people will actually pay them for this @#$%

dawgs01

April 29th, 2010
4:05 pm

alpha dawg -the clubhouse has to be horrible. When it shows them on the bench no one is talking or anything almost looks like an oil painting.

corkylovesbeer

April 29th, 2010
4:06 pm

Tmac…it is early in the season..no need to panic..the 1927 Yankees had a 9 game losing streak as well…as Bobby pointed out.

SRF

April 29th, 2010
4:06 pm

Sorry – these ain’t the 1927 Yankees

Rabiddawg

April 29th, 2010
4:08 pm

Are you kidding me? Just got home from work, turned on the game and we are losing 10-4. Ok, Ok, this joke has gone on long enough. when are the real Braves going to take the field? 9 L’s in a row. Are you kidding me? These are major leaguers folks. I have noticed the past FEW seasons that this team has a lack of heart and will to win. This team just goes through the motions it seems. Even when they win, it’s a ho hum attitude. all I gotta say is I can’t wait for BAB (braves after bobby). Until then, this pathetic franchise will get no more of my money. When Turner Field starts looking like the Blue Jays stadium, then maybe we will get the changes we need. Send a clear message to upper management that we demand a better product on the field. If not, we can just sit behind these computers witching about them. I for one will CHOOSE to stay away.

ltdbrave

April 29th, 2010
4:08 pm

It’s going to be a long season. Heck, it already has been.

Roto Rooter

April 29th, 2010
4:09 pm

@Tmac – Thank you, thank you, looks like I’ll be here all year.

Tmac

April 29th, 2010
4:09 pm

Corky- go sell sunshine somewhere else…

I agree with SRF- this ain’t the ‘27 Yankees by any stretch of the imagination.
And there are a few more teams in the league than in 1927.

Roto Rooter

April 29th, 2010
4:11 pm

Now the announcers are saying LaRussa is playing it like a spring training game. Wow!

Rabiddawg

April 29th, 2010
4:11 pm

According to the blog, we have the second worst record in baseball???? Are you serious. Thats pathetic.

Roto Rooter

April 29th, 2010
4:13 pm

Of course I benched Hewyard in my rotisserie league and I have Hanson and Hudson. So I truly can’t win for losing.

Jeff Treadway

April 29th, 2010
4:14 pm

The pitching is just terrible for the braves…they get 4 runs and give up 10 — geez guys, the offense is working miracles out there! help them out !!

LMAO !

Marc in FL

April 29th, 2010
4:14 pm

Injuries should compliment our anemic offense quite well…

Frank Wren

April 29th, 2010
4:18 pm

All is WELL!!! Remain CALM!!!

Tmac

April 29th, 2010
4:19 pm

We better break this streak at home against the Astros or it could get really ugly as the Braves go on the road for 3 in Washington, 3 in Philly and 3 in Milwaukee.

We could be eliminated from the playoff race by the end of that stretch.

But wait, i’m sorry. We’re supposed to have patients… my bad.

TnBob

April 29th, 2010
4:20 pm

Well, at least I can get some yard work done after getting home from work now,,

Fernando Appleyard

April 29th, 2010
4:21 pm

I have to tell you…Atlanta Braves…you do not look marvelous. You look more like…BRUTAL!

DawgDad

April 29th, 2010
4:22 pm

Let’s keep some perspective here. Ok, let’s not.

Got to give this lineup more time to come around, say, to the end of May. THEN if it isn’t working you blow it up and load up on as many prospects as you can grab. It’s hard to see this lineup contending this year.

I’ll go to the game because I love going to the games, and because in the worst of times this is still MLB and MLB-level talent. Jason Heyward, growing pains and all, is worth the price of admission all by himself. The Braves are still interesting, just not in a positive way right now. I went to the Halladay-Hudson game and that was a first-class MLB pitching matchup worth every penny.

If they are going to lose, they need to rally the troops and play inspired, aggressive baseball and keep their chins up and heads in the game. To do this, they need to clean house of the players no longer capable of playing inspired, aggressive baseball with their heads in the game, regardless of who they are. Fans are NOT going to tolerate .200 hitting turtles making a ton of lackadaisical errors and failing to execute fundamentals. Sorry, Chipper (and the obvious collection of others).

corkylovesbeer

April 29th, 2010
4:24 pm

I can’t believe all the negativity…Turner Field is Braves Country!

good grief

April 29th, 2010
4:26 pm

if we don’t beat the Astros I say we just swap the Atlanta and Gwinnett teams. Send all the big leaguers down and call all the AAA guys up.

Yokum

April 29th, 2010
4:27 pm

Was it Casey Stengel, when he was with a pitiful Mets team, who said, “Can’t anybody around here play this game?”

GLEN HUBBARD

April 29th, 2010
4:28 pm

Bobby said we can start stealing bases in June when are season will be offically over. Only one month til then!!!!

Roto Rooter

April 29th, 2010
4:28 pm

ROFLMAO! SportsSouth didn’t have a post game show and here is what was said…”Given time constaints we move forward to further sports action.” ROTFLMAO! They went to Bobby Dews. ROTFLMA! I wish they could move forward to futher action when the Braves win. ROTFLMAO!

Then they show a promo with J-Hey’s homer on Opening Day and the announcer says “The Braves are taking our breath away!” They sure are, because they are killing us!

JP

April 29th, 2010
4:28 pm

Correction Mr. Obvious

This just in, Glavine trades in his mic for cleats.

RE: Braves 5th Starter

45-Year–Old Tom Glavine > Kenshin Kawakami

Disappointed Braves Fan

April 29th, 2010
4:28 pm

Bring up Freddie Freeman

GLEN HUBBARD

April 29th, 2010
4:29 pm

I too love beer, Corky

GLEN HUBBARD

April 29th, 2010
4:31 pm

It has been so long I forgot what the sign to steal second base is. I will have to remind Bobby we can still do that crazy play.

scaredbravesfan

April 29th, 2010
4:34 pm

I totally agree with good grief…. If they dont take the assignent outright release them. Enough is Enough. But do not stop with players coaches go too.

Crazy Trades McGee

April 29th, 2010
4:34 pm

Wasn’t Meds Cruising? why take him out? I’m sure he has the ability to go more than 3 or so innings…

Pete

April 29th, 2010
4:35 pm

Is there any chance you will grow a pair and ask the tough questions to Bobby and Wren DOB? LIke, “At what point do you make changes? When you lose 10 straight and have the lowest batting average? Or 20 straight and have the fewest HR? How does TP still have a job when our former players are hitting so well. How does TP have a job when we have 5 regualrs hitting under .200 How does TP have a job when our leadoff hitters are hitting under .100? How does Bobby have a job when we continue to make mental and fundamental mistakes. Any other sport and any other coach would have been getting ask these questions?

Greg Norton

April 29th, 2010
4:36 pm

How much is Arizona loving Wren…Kelly went yard again (4 for 5), Laroche bombed 2 more…KJ – .320 9hr 18 rbi…LaRoche-.300 4hr 17rbi

scaredbravesfan

April 29th, 2010
4:37 pm

I thought I would never say this but I think Norton would be a better hitting CF than MClouth. McLouth do us a favor and have a hammi too.

Roto Rooter

April 29th, 2010
4:39 pm

@Corkylovesbeer aka Corkylovescrack – 1927 Yankees? Who is Ruth and who is Gherig? Heyward and Prado? LMAO! Come on, you, Bobby Cox, and Frank Wren all “cracking” up?

pat

April 29th, 2010
4:39 pm

Ok, Bobby said “…we’re playing really good baseball”. If you have more errors than runs, and pitchers on other team laugh like hell at the averages of the “Big Bats” this is NOT good baseball.

Gary

April 29th, 2010
4:40 pm

Pete, don’t you know no one asks the tough questions around here anymore because they are afraid of the front office.

pat

April 29th, 2010
4:40 pm

when the Royals are at least glad they’re not the Braves, it’s a bad sign.

When’s football start?

scaredbravesfan

April 29th, 2010
4:40 pm

Barry Bonds as hitting coach. He needs to let our hitters in on the little secret of how to hit. Or how to take steroids one or the other!!

GTSteve

April 29th, 2010
4:42 pm

@good grief ….I agree

michael palumbo

April 29th, 2010
4:42 pm

Frank Wren, Bobby Cox, Terry Pendleton should all be fired.

GTSteve

April 29th, 2010
4:42 pm

@scaredbravesfan …or both

Roy Hobbs

April 29th, 2010
4:42 pm

Crazy how little injuries pop up when guys know they have nothing to play for.

Clay

April 29th, 2010
4:43 pm

The Braves are 8-14. What? How in the world did we ever win 8 games?

Why

April 29th, 2010
4:45 pm

So, who’s still heading to the Ted tomorrow?

Pete

April 29th, 2010
4:46 pm

Still waiting for DOB to answer my question. He usually erases them.

Smitty

April 29th, 2010
4:46 pm

April 22, 2010 was the beginning of the end. And it was Draft Day. Perhaps coincidental, but thank God. It was a sign that football season ain’t that far away. So I will ask this: At what point do the powers be release those who can’t play or coach? Why is Freddie Freeman not playing in the bigs? Wren can’t possibly believe that Glaus is better. The future is exactly that and it won’t be here until Bobby is gone and Wren gets his head out of his ass! Keep losing and I will be able to buy the cheap seats and watch the other teams from behind home plate or wherever I feel like sitting.

GO FALCONS!

SC Smith

April 29th, 2010
4:47 pm

No Gary, these are not our fathers Braves, they could hit like hell, just couldnt pitch.

WrenForPresident

April 29th, 2010
4:47 pm

The Braves cold be worse off, Obama could be the GM.

Biff Pocoroba

April 29th, 2010
4:47 pm

jeezuz-gawd, what a way to take away all the enthusiasm of a new season from the fan base … this is a pathetic collection of players. so glad the front office addressed an alarming lack of power during the offseason by promoting jay-hey. glaus, hinski, cabrera. c’mon mr. wren. are you serious? you’ve put the finishing touches on turning this team into the orioles of the national league. be proud. this is your creation. make sure you update your resume with this atrocious start. and ownership expects fans to purchase tickets to watch this crap?

daBraves860

April 29th, 2010
4:47 pm

This really hurts to watch now… but could this be the worst to first season all over again? i hope soo.

I Hate Liberty Media

April 29th, 2010
4:48 pm

Seriously, would Troy Glaus start for any other team? McLouth? Melky? Diaz? Sure looks & feels like 1988 again.

Biff Pocoroba

April 29th, 2010
4:48 pm

correcting hinski to hinske … i’m so disgusted i can’t even spell

Why

April 29th, 2010
4:48 pm

Maybe Ted Turner will save us!

daBraves860

April 29th, 2010
4:49 pm

thinking about it… the 8 games we’ve won this year have been extremely exciting to watch. and i miss that. i need my fix ATL. please supply me now!

Jonas

April 29th, 2010
4:49 pm

We was in First Place one Day… We was 8-5

Bobby Cox

April 29th, 2010
4:50 pm

It’s ok folks I’m retiring this year… wait… or is it getting fired this year? hmmm… can’t remember. oh well. Norton! grab a bat! where’s Norton?

nelson

April 29th, 2010
4:51 pm

BOYCOTT TO THE BRAVES !!! I am very TIRED OF SEEING ALWAYS THE SAME , ANOTHER YEAR LOST .

Greg Norton

April 29th, 2010
4:51 pm

Right here Bobby.

Fred Flintstone

April 29th, 2010
4:51 pm

Kelly Johnson hit his 9th homer today. Kelly, who I always liked struggled big time with the Braves. Why? Terry Pendleton should be given the ax. Braves batting avg. is pathetic. Also, Bobby should have been asked to step down 2 years ago. He lives in LALA land, and his post game comments are not in touch with reality. Who is Frank Wren? Do you see what he has brought in and calls it a baseball team?

Greg Norton

April 29th, 2010
4:51 pm

Start me at 1st tomorrow.

jerry

April 29th, 2010
4:52 pm

How bad is it? The Braves have petitioned the Commissioner’s office for the exclusive right to steal first base.

Jose

April 29th, 2010
4:52 pm

Don’t worry Braves Fan if i win the Lotto i will buy this team and clean House.

Greg Norton

April 29th, 2010
4:53 pm

Also, lets give Corky the start at catcher!

Tom

April 29th, 2010
4:53 pm

is it possible that if the braves continue to be crap that bobby should be fired?

John, Ducktown

April 29th, 2010
4:54 pm

Let’s look at the positives:
-It “appears” keeping Lowe over Javy was a good move.
Javy is 1-3, 9.00 ERA, Lowe is 3-1 (40% of Braves’ wins and run production!) 5.79 ERA,
-Heyward leads team in HR’s (5), RBI’s (17)
-Hinske has the most pinch-hits in the NL & I believe Majors
-Prado leads the league in hitting
ummm. ummmmm..
-Braves can’t lose more than 154 games this year!
-Good & cheap seats to be had at home games (remember the days in Fulton County Stadium?)
-More prospects to come up

Heck, I can’t come up with anything, which is how bad we are.

Surely, surely, come June 1, we won’t be starting 4-5 guys a game batting below the Mendoza Line.

My vote for Hitting Coach? And I’m not kidding. . . JULIO FRANCO! SOB is the oldest guy to hit a HR, hit .300 and steal a base! He’s got a great attitude and is a fan favorite- not to mention, the Braves actually hit well those 5 years he played for the Braves.

adam

April 29th, 2010
4:54 pm

thank god i am playing softball to night. at least i have some controll on weather we win or lose. hey chipper, my quad is a little sore and we are on a 2 game losing streak but i am going to play!

Why

April 29th, 2010
4:55 pm

I think maybe a Bobby Bowden act. He “leaves on his own.” I doubt it though.

Eric

April 29th, 2010
4:56 pm

Kelly Johnson Hit another homerun today.

nelson

April 29th, 2010
4:56 pm

DO NOT ATTEND THE STADIUM , ATLANTA BRAVES MANAGEMENT WE MUST RESPECT AS FAN . BOYCOTT TO THE BRAVES . DO NOT ATTEND THE STADIUM .

John, Ducktown

April 29th, 2010
4:56 pm

JULIO FRANCO FOR HITTING COACH! He’s the oldest man to hit a HR and Steal a Base- We need hitting and good base running. Think I’m kidding? How could it be worse?

SC Smith

April 29th, 2010
4:57 pm

What would this team look like if we had a real owner? 1B-LaRoch or Tex. 2b-Prado SS-Andres 3b-Chipper or Yunel OF-Heyward, K.Johnson, A.Jones, C-McCann. Just on players we didnt’ keep. Forgot about Salty.

Brad from AL

April 29th, 2010
4:57 pm

Chipper will be hurt next. Its been a few day since he has been hurt.

Biff Pocoroba

April 29th, 2010
4:58 pm

“Pete” presents the questions that cry for answers. How about it, DOB? TP certainly isn’t the villain responsible for this mess. I’ve never believed that any coach (including Leo M.) is really worth his weight when it comes to making players produce. But this teams needs a jolt to get it to wake up. Maybe TP should at least fall on his sword (he won’t cuz he can taste the mgr’s office). But does anyone really beleive a new hitting coach will turn things around?

Pete

April 29th, 2010
5:04 pm

Kelly Johnson just hit his 9th HR. Awesome job Wren. He almost has as many as the entire Braves team. LOL

Joe Stundal

April 29th, 2010
5:04 pm

Gotta go see the Braves play, I’m too young to have seen the 62 Mets. At least they (62 Mets) had a few hitters.

OMG what a pathetic excuse for a Major League team right now.

01HAWK

April 29th, 2010
5:05 pm

Pull out the POWDER BLUES………………………………..These are the BRAVES OF THE 80′S.

Can you say stirrups, tight knit uniforms, long hair and bad baseball.

Bad baseball by a over the hill manager and a terrible GM. Look at the payrolls for other teams that are performing better than the BRAVES. To bad most people in baseball would hate the BRAVES if they fired BOOBY COX in his swansong year.

Should we be surprised when we put our hopes on an overhill manager, overhill 3B named LARRY, and a pitcher in DLOWE that we could not give away. Also, the payroll is low, so we should not expect anymore than what we have. But still embarrasing to have this payroll and have the 2nd to last worse record in baseball.

2010

Team Total payroll for 2010

New York Yankees $ 206,333,389
Boston Red Sox $ 162,447,333
Chicago Cubs $ 146,609,000
Philadelphia Phillies $ 141,928,379
New York Mets $ 134,422,942
Detroit Tigers $ 122,864,928
Chicago White Sox $ 105,530,000
Los Angeles Angels $ 104,963,866
San Francisco Giants $ 98,641,333
Minnesota Twins $ 97,559,166
Los Angeles Dodgers $ 95,358,016
St. Louis Cardinals $ 93,540,751
Houston Astros $ 92,355,500
Seattle Mariners $ 86,510,000
Atlanta Braves $ 84,423,666
Colorado Rockies $ 84,227,000
Baltimore Orioles $ 81,612,500
Milwaukee Brewers $ 81,108,278
Tampa Bay Rays $ 71,923,471
Cincinnati Reds $ 71,761,542
Kansas City Royals $ 71,405,210
Toronto Blue Jays $ 62,234,000
Washington Nationals $ 61,400,000
Cleveland Indians $ 61,203,966
Arizona Diamondbacks $ 60,718,166
Florida Marlins $ 57,034,719
Texas Rangers $ 55,250,544
Oakland Athletics $ 51,654,900
San Diego Padres $ 37,799,300
Pittsburgh Pirates $ 34,943,000

count_schemula

April 29th, 2010
5:05 pm

time to get on a charted plane, land in the ATL and get in your Ferrari and drive home, for shame

Jeff

April 29th, 2010
5:05 pm

Lay off TP guys. The hitting coach is only groomed to handle one maybe two slumps at a given time…..not 9-10 simultaneously. He is simply overloaded. You can see it on his face, his body language, he looks depressed, probably on mega Paxil or Wellbutrin. Probably the loneliest soul on that team right about now. He needs our support.., I feel your pain TP!!

count_schemula

April 29th, 2010
5:07 pm

Why isn’t Hinske the starting 1b? All he does is pound that ball hard. Let Glaus play his way INTO 1b, not out of it, wtf

Mike

April 29th, 2010
5:07 pm

Let’s face facts here – everybody over the offseason was very skeptical of the moves made by Frank Wren. Selling Javier for a bag of peanuts and getting no ammo on offense in the trade. Getting over the hill Glaus, average Melkey and basically doing nothing to help our abysmal offense last year. Heyward was the only good thing to happen so far and Wren really had nothing to do with that. Then they go out and blow up the Cubs in game 1 and get a couple come from behind wins and everybody jumps on the bandwagon.

Reality check folks – this team is no better (and perphaps much worse) than last year. We all saw it coming this offseason – just temporarily blinded by some greatness from Heyward and a couple lucky breaks (i.e. the come from behind HR from Glaus and Nate to beat the Phillies)

No need the trade the farm system – nothing to do but ride out this piss poor year – get rid of Cox, Chipper, Glaus, Wren, Pendelton and Lowe – grab us a high 1st round pick and clean f-ing house start over and pray the falcons do something this year.

Peter

April 29th, 2010
5:07 pm

Yes keep Bobby foe the entire year, and TP for a few more years….don’t we want to see 6,000 folks in the seats again ?

That will be so good for business they will sell the team, and hopefully a owner with a desire to succeed with buy them.

01HAWK

April 29th, 2010
5:08 pm

Embarrassing to have this payroll and not perform better. Look at the Florida Marlins payroll.

Team Total payroll for 2010

New York Yankees $ 206,333,389
Boston Red Sox $ 162,447,333
Chicago Cubs $ 146,609,000
Philadelphia Phillies $ 141,928,379
New York Mets $ 134,422,942
Detroit Tigers $ 122,864,928
Chicago White Sox $ 105,530,000
Los Angeles Angels $ 104,963,866
San Francisco Giants $ 98,641,333
Minnesota Twins $ 97,559,166
Los Angeles Dodgers $ 95,358,016
St. Louis Cardinals $ 93,540,751
Houston Astros $ 92,355,500
Seattle Mariners $ 86,510,000
Atlanta Braves $ 84,423,666
Colorado Rockies $ 84,227,000
Baltimore Orioles $ 81,612,500
Milwaukee Brewers $ 81,108,278
Tampa Bay Rays $ 71,923,471
Cincinnati Reds $ 71,761,542
Kansas City Royals $ 71,405,210
Toronto Blue Jays $ 62,234,000
Washington Nationals $ 61,400,000
Cleveland Indians $ 61,203,966
Arizona Diamondbacks $ 60,718,166
Florida Marlins $ 57,034,719
Texas Rangers $ 55,250,544
Oakland Athletics $ 51,654,900
San Diego Padres $ 37,799,300
Pittsburgh Pirates $ 34,943,000

armchair

April 29th, 2010
5:09 pm

The Braves should try to get Chipper healthy–is that possible?; get him hitting and then trade him mid-season for youth. Of course, they should have done that two years ago. When you let good players go consistently because you can’t pay them, then try to fill holes with also-rans, you’ve descended into baseball purgatory–home of all low- to mid-budget teams. The Braves are nothing but a slightly more respectable version of the Pirates.

scaredbravesfan

April 29th, 2010
5:09 pm

Any other team in baseball would make some type of change to make a point. Fire a coach, release a player, fire sale anything to see a different result. This has to be done now or the season will be lost. Oh by the way just checked and no big savings on tix yet!!!

Ozzie

April 29th, 2010
5:10 pm

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An opposing pitcher drifted over to chat with some of his professional peers on the Rays’ roster before a game recently. “I hate playing you guys,” he said. “You guys are always running.”

Always.

We’re reaching the end of April this week and the Tampa Bay Rays’ run differential already is at a whopping plus-59. It’s a staggering pace that they won’t maintain, of course, but when you watch their games play out, they look like a team with a plus-59 run differential. Because of Tampa Bay’s extraordinary athleticism and depth of talent, they look like they’re coming at you in waves.

Frank, Scouting Dept and Coaching Staff – please watch every Rays game and see what a design center can do for a team. They have a team philosophy and design approach – its not just about coming in last for 10 years and getting the picks.

The Pirates came in last as well but look at them.

You need more than decent pitching and a random collection of guys many of whom you were forced to trade for or sign b/c your plan A fell through to win.

The Braves are a mishmash of pieces with some decent pitching and 3R HR game plan. That model no longer works in MLB as your record can attest.

This team will never win until it decides what the heck is suppose to be and without a 150mm budget they will never be a big time power team.

It is time to take a completely new approach – speed, athleticism, youth, passionate players, defense and some reason amount of pop.

Today you have almost none of that and the performance we are seeing today and over the past 5-6 years is not really a surprise when you look at how this team has been assembled.

Step one go get Don Mattingly as your new manager – grab him before the Dodgers work a back room deal b/c you know they are working towards that.

He will put this team on a totally new path and would not tolerate the kind of play we are seeing from this club.

The Braves way needs a complete retooling not a coat a paint associated with a former or current Brave crony.

bruce mac

April 29th, 2010
5:11 pm

Dawgs1, yes the positive is that Chavez who sux like the rest of our team has decided not to accept the second half of his over priced contract ($6 Million) and retire at the end of the year. Great news, now if only Chipper and Wren will follow suit we will have a chance in 2011. Braves suck, season is over.

count_schemula

April 29th, 2010
5:14 pm

Melky walks and gets the occasional single, what’s up with that? He’s an AL looking OF to boot.

Luv 2 Hate Me

April 29th, 2010
5:15 pm

Bottom line! Being cheap will get you nothing in baseball these days. You have to spend money or wait years for your minor leaguers to develop. Also I think it’s time for Bobby to leave. He should’ve bounced after last season.

Ga in Hi

April 29th, 2010
5:21 pm

The gm usually goes and gets players the field mgr wants, so…
Just how much weight does cox have over the GM…It seems as if he and CJ have all the power over the GM…The Mgr must know CJ is hurt, unless he has slowed that much either way it is time to GO. I can’t see any AL taking him as a DH.
I wish the old Atlanta Crackers still were in town.

John

April 29th, 2010
5:23 pm

While it is not time to panick yet, it is time to consider making some serious changes. I like TP but as a hitting coach it is way past tme to make a change. It is obvious that that players either do not respect him as a batting coach or are not listening. Players leave and do better elsewhere, Kelly Johnson, Franceour, etc. The second is a change to the lineup. Heyward is going to be the 3rd place hitter for a number of years. He should be put there now with Chipper 4, McCann 5, Escobar 6, Hinske/Glause 7, Mclouth/Cabreara/Dias 8th. I think the offense will click better with this lineup as Heyward should see better pitches with Chipper behind him, Heyward has more speed so if Chipper gets a hit it should help move Heyward around and with Prado in front Heyward should have more RBI chances then when he hits homers with no one on base. Both Heyward, Chipper and McCann should benefit from this and the braves should score more runs. Glaus should definitely be moved out of the clean-up spot.

Trey

April 29th, 2010
5:24 pm

The Braves are really disappointing, but they are still my team and I will root for them all year. I just wish Wren would stop making excuses.

GT71

April 29th, 2010
5:24 pm

Why not have FUN with this. Going to a BRaves game in the late 70s and 80s was FUN. You could park anywhere you like – I liked the curb next to the stdium. You have your own beer guy, your own p-nut guy and they’d sometimes sit down with you and yell at Lemke. And he HEARD you. EVeryone in the park heard you cuz there were only about 2500 people there – most to see the opposition because we had/have a large contingent of yankees who’ve chosen to live in our midst. DOn’t complain, most of them pay taxes.
So sit back, have a brewsky, and ENJOY THE GAME!

Trey

April 29th, 2010
5:25 pm

John, that is the thing. The Braves may be listening to TP, that is why they can’t hit. Jones and McCann have always been the better of hitters on the team and followed their dad’s instead of TP.

Greg Norton

April 29th, 2010
5:25 pm

THis just in: Oil spill will not hit shore, moving back out to sea thanks to strong winds generated by Troy Glaus’ bat during St. Louis series

northbeach Scott

April 29th, 2010
5:25 pm

For the first time since 2006 when I moved back to Atlanta, I did not watch a single pitch of the four game Cardinal-Braves series. I did not miss these shameful losses and I am not sure I even care.

Perhaps we should be hoping for a 20 game losing streak so that we can commence with the firesale/DFA and get the kids up, so they can benefit from some playing time. Really looking forward to 2011 and no Bobby Cox or Terry Pendleton.

So glad I did not renew the season tickets this year.

Trey

April 29th, 2010
5:26 pm

Hell, maybe the Braves will drop prices for going since no one will pay sky rocket prices for parking, food, seats or anything else just to see a team lose.

jayvee

April 29th, 2010
5:26 pm

The meat of the lineup is hamburger right now. Time to start giving some guys who can produce more ABs: Hinske, Conrad, Infante, Ross. I’d give Diaz some chances, too, though he doesn’t seem his normal line-drive-hitting self.

Pete

April 29th, 2010
5:27 pm

Is there any chance you will grow a pair and ask the tough questions to Bobby and Wren DOB? LIke, “At what point do you make changes? When you lose 10 straight and have the lowest batting average? Or 20 straight and have the fewest HR? How does TP still have a job when our former players are hitting so well. How does TP have a job when we have 5 regualrs hitting under .200 How does TP have a job when our leadoff hitters are hitting under .100? How does Bobby have a job when we continue to make mental and fundamental mistakes. Any other sport and any other coach would have been getting ask these questions?

Trey

April 29th, 2010
5:29 pm

Pete, Bobby’s response will be something like, “Our players are just in a slump right now, they will come through, and I do not plan on making changes yet, because we have a really talented team that is just struggling.”

bp

April 29th, 2010
5:32 pm

dump every player exceopt heyward.This is the worst bunch of bums we have ever had.It is time to start over.This is the worst team in baseball.I hate to say it but it is time to boycott the home games and tv until we get an owner. I am done with these losers.

I Hate Liberty Media

April 29th, 2010
5:32 pm

I wish the Atlanta media was tougher, like the New York media. I believe these hacks that call themselves a baseball team should be held accountable.

Roger

April 29th, 2010
5:33 pm

No more can’t wait for the next Braves game for me. This is just sad. So many of the guys we traded away are much better than what we have now. Ted Turner, where the heck are you? Please buy the Braves and field us a team again!!!

Braves fan in Budapest

April 29th, 2010
5:33 pm

I was wondering how to organize my time between the Braves and the World Cup when I get back stateside….I guess that problem is solved now. Hey at least the World Cup should be interesting.

I agree with good grief, if they lose to the Astros then Glaus, Chipper, Melky, Diaz, McClouth, Kawakami, and Lowe all need to be sent to Gwinnett (sorry Gwinnett), and the Braves need to call to the farm to replace them. Hinske can cover 3rd base, Freeman can cover 1st base, Infante can be moved to the outfield. Seriously, the players above (with the exception of Diaz) have no clue, no passion, and no grit. Diaz is just streaking poorly all the others covered above are beyond their time or have lost their ambition and skill.

Next, I loved the guy as player (he was my favorite), but Pendleton needs to go…just look at the objective facts. Bobby needs to become an inactive manager – he can still sit in the clubhouse and be honored as the manager but no more game decisions should be left to him. Frank Wren needs to get at least one good hitter, or he goes…period. I have been a Braves fan since birth and will love them until I die, but this is pathetic. Sorry for the rant, but the changes need to be rung in because this obviously is not a professional caliber team.

Trey

April 29th, 2010
5:34 pm

bp, if you are a true Braves fan you will not turn from them. It is normal to be really angry and disappointed for their performance, but a true Braves fan will remain a fan win or lose. They are horrible, I admit, but I will continue to support them.

I Hate Liberty Media

April 29th, 2010
5:35 pm

For all of you younger fans and bandwagon fans whose memory of the Atlanta Braves begins in or after 1991…welcome to the 1970s and mid- to late- 1980s.

Anthony in Atlanta(Go Braves)

April 29th, 2010
5:36 pm

TMAC,

Your right about needing patients with this braves team….

Wren can go out and pick up some more old players, I think a few are “patients” at Our Lady of the Everswinging Bat Hospice.

Either that or we can go the Mexican leagues and trade a box of baseballs for a first baseman.

Meanwhile take a gander at Kelly Johnson, Jeff Francoeur, and Adam Laroche… So darn sad.

Trey

April 29th, 2010
5:36 pm

I Hate Liberty Media, I grew up watching them win because I was born in ‘87. However, I am no band wagon fan, but it still stings that they don’t make the playoffs anymore. Of course getting used to it takes time, but you never want to get used to that.

bp

April 29th, 2010
5:36 pm

What is the record for consecutive losses?That’s something to shoot for

Roger

April 29th, 2010
5:37 pm

Wish Skip Caray were still alive and calling games. He could make us laugh about the current loosing streak.

I Hate Liberty Media

April 29th, 2010
5:39 pm

“Well, folks, you can go walk your dog now.”

I miss Skip.

jayvee

April 29th, 2010
5:39 pm

Meanwhile, LaRoche goes deep twice with and Kelly Johnson goes yard once for the D-Backs. They have eight RBI between them, and that’s just TODAY.

Marvel Goose

April 29th, 2010
5:40 pm

This ain’t Chicago. This is Georgia. We don’t love losers here.

Roger

April 29th, 2010
5:42 pm

Sure would be nice if Wren had given Kelly and Adam another year or so with the Braves. I’d like to have ‘Druw back in center field also.

Fedup

April 29th, 2010
5:42 pm

Bobby Cox and Braves management finally are exposed. Cox’s managing style got by with very little offense because with the great pitching he had for those 14 seasons he really didn’t need much. The great pitching and defense are gone and so are the winning seasons but the puny offense remains. The strategy of one and done players has caught up to the Braves. They have no lead off man – could have been Elvis Andrus but no, they had to have Tex – but couldn’t keep him. They have no slugging first baseman. They just let Adam LaRoche, the only remnant left of the Tex trade, walk away. This is a pattern that keeps repeating. So, we have another one and doner at first who is doing nothing. Terry Pendleton’s weakness as a hitting coaching is abysmal. Gone are Kelly Johnson who leads the National League in home runs and Jeff Francoer who is pretty successful with the Mets. Don’t even mention what happened to Jordan Schafer. Both Melky and McClouth have gone from good hitters to no-hitters under Pendleton’s tutelage. Soon Jason Heyward will be ruined and cast off because the Pendleton and Cox stamp will be on him. He’ll wind up being a star on another team “because he needs a change of scenery” when the Braves give up on him. But maybe, just maybe, he’ll last the season before Cox and Terry ruin him completely so another manager can get the Braves out of the mire. Now that Bobby has said he is retiring five years too late, we can’t fire him or Pendleton. It just wouldn’t be “right.” God forbid they make Pendleton the next manager.

billy mccawley

April 29th, 2010
5:43 pm

Way to go Frank, you get rid of Adam LaRoche for Troy Glaus. Real Smooooooooooooooooooooooth!!!!

=]

April 29th, 2010
5:44 pm

bp

April 29th, 2010
5:45 pm

You have to turn away from this crap.Don’t go to the games don’t buy merchandise don’t watch on tv.It is the only thing corporate jackasses understand.

jayvee

April 29th, 2010
5:45 pm

You’ve got to admire how the Cards have built around Pujols and Holladay. Shumaker, Ludwick, Rasmus, Freese — a group of no-names who are playing like studs. I don’t like Tony LaRussa much, but the man knows his baseball flesh, and how to deploy it.

bp

April 29th, 2010
5:53 pm

Now that the starting rotation has given up this year is over.Oh I gave up a three run jack I think chipper said my hamstring is hurt.waaaaaaaa

Einstein

April 29th, 2010
5:54 pm

As I’ve always said, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is insanity. Bobby Cox! Managing the same way over and over and expecting different results is just plain crazy. At this point in your career, why not try singles and manufacturing runs…it’s OK to win 3 to 2.

Donny Corleone

April 29th, 2010
5:55 pm

Jair: “Hey Chipper, thanks for showing me that new stretching routine. I can tell it;s working alrea……………..OW! OW! MY HAMSTRING!”

Eric Hinske

April 29th, 2010
5:56 pm

Why the **** is Troy starting over me? I actually have a batting average that’s bigger than my age

Donny Corleone

April 29th, 2010
5:57 pm

MY EYES! It hurts too much to watch!

BraveMan

April 29th, 2010
5:57 pm

folks…

you all do realize that even if we have the number 1 pick in next year’s draft, that its not a given we could sign that player? seriously, where do we get the 20 million to sign this kid?

Liberty Media Group

April 29th, 2010
5:58 pm

“you all do realize that even if we have the number 1 pick in next year’s draft, that its not a given we could sign that player? seriously, where do we get the 20 million to sign this kid?”

You can’t have it.

Donny Corleone

April 29th, 2010
6:02 pm

The Rally Booger! was admitted to the nervous hospital today for depression and addiction to Sinutab. I”ll keep you updated on his progress.

Prime Time

April 29th, 2010
6:02 pm

Braves have the second worst record in all of baseball. I know it’s still early but that is just terrible.

Braves fan in Budapest

April 29th, 2010
6:02 pm

Dave, If you monitor these posts you can tell what the sentiments from the fans are. I am a lifelong fan for 28 years, we are not going to put up with this standard. I remember ‘88, ‘89, and 90 quite well and this is worse. When are you going to start asking Bobby and Wren the real tough questions…We the fans and we are flat sick of this ho-hum-denial-of-reality stance and we aren’t toddlers – we are the ticket holders and purchasers.

Donny Corleone

April 29th, 2010
6:05 pm

C’mon. It’s not that bad. Only nine in a row while scoring about two runs over the same period. You just wait! The sun’ll come up tomorrow on a new day and……………$h– who am I kidding.

Liberty Media Group

April 29th, 2010
6:06 pm

Dave, you buy tickets in Budapest???

Liberty Media Group

April 29th, 2010
6:06 pm

Braves fan in Budapest I mean, not Dave

bp

April 29th, 2010
6:08 pm

Budapest you are right on.boycott the games and tv and maybe they will get it.

Liberty Media Group

April 29th, 2010
6:09 pm

NO! Don’t do that! Continue to support our mediocre product, because that’s all you get!

bearcatjacket

April 29th, 2010
6:11 pm

THIS JUST IN…A group of Phillipine business men has plans to purchase the Atlanta Braves and change the team name to ‘The Manila Folders’. Win one for the Gimper (at least one, ok?)

bp

April 29th, 2010
6:12 pm

Liberty that was funny!

bearcatjacket

April 29th, 2010
6:12 pm

…left this out: ba-da-bing, ba-da-boom!!!

Braves fan in Budapest

April 29th, 2010
6:13 pm

Liberty Media Group – No, but I will be back in Atlanta soon and when I left, I was PLANNING on buying tickets as soon as I got back…but I will not if no changes are made FAST!

I normally live in Atlanta and attend the games, but I am tired of this like I was when we choked last season, and the season before that, and the season before that…and it is certainly not looking any better. Need I comment on the way the team is choking this year. Anyway its after midnight and I should grab some sleep. Hopefully when I wake up tomorrow morning something will have changed drastically.

bearcatjacket

April 29th, 2010
6:14 pm

well, buda, it *will* be a different day, but…

Donny Corleone

April 29th, 2010
6:15 pm

What’s an adductor muscle? I believe they just made that up.

Liberty Media Group

April 29th, 2010
6:18 pm

But Buda, what’s more important? Making money or winning baseball games? Pretty easy decision for me.

Liberty Media Group

April 29th, 2010
6:19 pm

What’s an adductor muscle? I believe they just made that up.

There’s the abductor muscle and the adductor muscle. I believe (I could be wrong) that the adductor muscle allows the legs to spread and the abductor allows them to shut. Could be the opposite though

bp

April 29th, 2010
6:19 pm

I think a abductor muscle is what abducted our offense.

Liberty Media Group

April 29th, 2010
6:19 pm

In that case, Lindsay Lohan has some pretty good adductors

mscoast brave

April 29th, 2010
6:20 pm

Don’t forget. Next Year is the 20th ann. of the worst to foist year. We might be replicating it.

Liberty Media Group

April 29th, 2010
6:20 pm

In all seriousness though, there is no way this keeps up. This team is BETTER than this.

Braves fan in Budapest

April 29th, 2010
6:21 pm

Liberty Media Group:

“mediocre product”? since when is a 0-9 streak with aging has beens up to the standard of mediocre. I might buy tickets or watch the games if the Braves were mediocre, but we aren’t there yet. Mediocre would be a sigh of relief right now.

Oh and AIG called and said you should learn how they do things over there… they got a bailout, and you have the Braves. Guess which one I would take now…

bp

April 29th, 2010
6:21 pm

who abducted our leadoff man?

NRBQ

April 29th, 2010
6:21 pm

Stat of the Day.

K Johnson and A LaRoche from the 1 and 5 holes:

7 for 9, two HR, 8 RBI.

Donny Corleone

April 29th, 2010
6:22 pm

Liberty, I believe we all have spread our legs this season.

fisherman brave

April 29th, 2010
6:22 pm

the cardinals draw almost 40,000 on a thursday afternoon, and some wonder how they can afford superstars like they do! I went to 2 of the games this series and was shocked at how many fans were there.

Liberty Media Group

April 29th, 2010
6:22 pm

Liberty Media Group:

“mediocre product”? since when is a 0-9 streak with aging has beens up to the standard of mediocre. I might buy tickets or watch the games if the Braves were mediocre, but we aren’t there yet. Mediocre would be a sigh of relief right now.

Oh and AIG called and said you should learn how they do things over there… they got a bailout, and you have the Braves. Guess which one I would take now…

Liberty Media declines comment at this time.

Murph

April 29th, 2010
6:23 pm

Desperate times call for desperate measures… only problem is that Bobby’s version of desperate measures is moving Heyward from 7th to 6th in the order.

This is your team, Braves fans. There won’t be any drastic changes.

1. They won’t trade for a big bat when they have no chance of contention.
2. Bobby won’t get fired in the midst of his farewell tour.
3. TP won’t get fired because Bobby has too much say in his coaching staff.
4. Players won’t be called up to replace broken-down veterans because Bobby is too much of a “player’s coach” and will give them every opportunity to break their slump, even if it’s at the expense of losing 100 games

This is your team. Adjust your expectations, enjoy the Heyward show, and hope for better times next year.

Farmboy

April 29th, 2010
6:25 pm

Ancient history, I know, but the 1978 and 1979 teams that Cox managed were also 8-14 after 22 games.

John, Ducktown

April 29th, 2010
6:26 pm

In all seriousness, we all know the Braves are sucking eggs right now. But let’s look at these guys we “let go”: Cox ain’t the problem. But let’s not throw Wren under the bus just yet, a little investigating leads me to:
KJ: Career .265 hitter and in 103 games last year: 8HR’s and 29RBI’s- and Prado beat him out- his defense is avg at best- Nobody wanted him back on the team- he can’t play OF- he had tommy John surgery- You can’t cry about this one- and we all know KJ is streaky- he hit like .400 last year for about 3-4 weeks and then plummetted down to .220.
Laroche: A career .205 hitter in April, .258 in May and .253 pre-allstar and .300 post allstar- he wanted $9M a year for 3 years- justification for the 3 months he gave us? He got most of his stats today in one game for Pete’s sake!
Salty: Just got sent down to AAA
Javier: ERA of 9 and is struggling
A Jones: Sure- you sign him to a deal when he wouldn’t listen, he was fat, and he just came off of back to back seasons of batting .158 and .214- People would have been hollerin’ at this move!
Frenchy?: Hasn’t hit 20 HR’s in a season since 2006 and he’s cooled off substantially
Elvis Andrus at SS? Would you start him over Escobar to start the season?- no- Escobar is a career .298 hitter and was probably the MVP of the Braves’ last year.
Forgot about Soriano: He’s doing well, but we’ve only needed Wagner like 3 times this year, so what good would have Soriano done us?

Here’s one for you, thru April 28, 2010:
Player A: .133, 2HR, 9RBI’s, 9 Runs, 18K’s 3 doubles
Player B: .203, 2HR, 9RBI’s, 7 Runs, 21k’s 1 double

Player A: Mark Texiera- and he plays for a top offense and in Yankee Stadium, Fenway, etc.
Player B: Troy Glaus
Now how would ole’ Tex be helping us right now? He is a career .238 hitter in April!

Guys, we got a good pitching staff and there is no way that any of our players are going to hit .200. We all know Diaz is not a .200 hitter, we know Chipper can hit at least .280 and that Melky and McClouth aren’t going to hit .200. The scary thing is that we got the Astros at home this weekend and then head on a long, long road trip, which could really put us behind if we don’t pick things up. . . but don’t forget, the Astros and Rockies of the 2000’s were able to make the playoffs and WS by having horrendous 1-2 months of the season, only to explode and take it all.

Go Braves!

Liberty Media Group

April 29th, 2010
6:26 pm

We let Frank run the show because we don’t give a crap. Frank lets Bobby run the show because he has no idea what he’s doing.

Nitro87

April 29th, 2010
6:29 pm

John, nice post. I too believe things will turn around some, but probably not too much

Donny Corleone

April 29th, 2010
6:31 pm

This team is losing in spectacular fashion. It’s hard to compare them to any other team at this time. They all look lost and bewildered at the plate and in the field. This is gonna get ugly(er).

governor404

April 29th, 2010
6:31 pm

Does this name sound familiar to you Braves’ front office? Jermaine Dye, a productive outfielder with a pulse, would not he be an upgrade over ole Melky, less of a risk than Glaus, oops i forgot he’s an African-American and doesn’t fit the “image” the Braves are seeking, a World Series MVP who the struggling Braves won’t even consider, i hope ole Bobby takes this 100 loss season with him into retirement

bp

April 29th, 2010
6:35 pm

Bobby has nothing to work with.Decent pitching but the offense sux. Worst team in 20 yrs.

=]

April 29th, 2010
6:38 pm

john good post. Bobby is senile has been for awhile now… but lets throw Wren under the bus. He has done nothing. I still think he mishandled the Glavine junk in the PR. He was made to look foolish on the Furcal, Griffey, Burnett and Damon dealings. I know some of their prices were too high but look at what he gave Kawakami. Laroche wanted 3 years but signed a 1 year.. we could of got him if frank wasn’t incompetent. Salty was sent down to rehab an injury he was diagnosed with some sort of disorder. Salty and nefiti and Elvis are on JS’s watch so we can bolster fw’s decision making with them.

John, Ducktown

April 29th, 2010
6:38 pm

Nitro87- I don’t have faith that things we’ll be “substantially better”, but I don’t see it getting worse, UNLESS WE HAVE A RASH OF INJURIES,

I also wonder if TP was the “problem” when under his watch:
Chipper won a batting title
McCann has been a silver slugger
Julio Franco hit .300
LaRoche hit like a mad man in the 2nd half last year batting .325, when he hit .247 for PIT and .265 for Bos (he went to Boston as a backup 1B)
Crowd favorite Langerhahns was a terrible hitter, but hit about 50 points higher in Atl than anywhere else
The list goes on
And I don’t know how “TP” ruined Jordan S- The guy had a broken wrist after 7 games and played another 30 or so- If my wrist was broken, I’d cry picking up a pencil. . . a bat- and swinging it?

BigT

April 29th, 2010
6:39 pm

Get Chipper some steroids!

Braves fan in Budapest

April 29th, 2010
6:41 pm

bp “Bobby has nothing to work with.Decent pitching but the offense sux. Worst team in 20 yrs.”

This is where Wren is supposed to ring changes or at least go get a bat. However, apparently our misguided, out-of-touch-with-reality management thinks that there is nothing wrong going on…. 8-14 happens sometimes, 0-9 does not.

Braves fan in Budapest

April 29th, 2010
6:44 pm

John, Ducktown: “but I don’t see it getting worse”

We are 0-9 exactly how could it possibly get worse…(unless that is what you were trying to convey)

Pete

April 29th, 2010
6:44 pm

John, Ducktown. You may be interested to know that CHipper and McCann use their dads as their hitting coaches.

bp

April 29th, 2010
6:46 pm

Budapest at least two fans see the light.

=]

April 29th, 2010
6:46 pm

0-9 with a no hitter on top of it

Michael

April 29th, 2010
6:48 pm

Baseball America magazine had the Braves winning the NL big this year….ROFLMAO!!!

Murph

April 29th, 2010
6:51 pm

Skip: You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!
Larry: Lollygaggers!
Skip: Lollygaggers.

Realist

April 29th, 2010
6:51 pm

Trade Melky, Glaus, McLouth, Lowe and $500,000 to the Mets for Frenchy. I can assure you it would be a good trade for Atlanta

SID

April 29th, 2010
6:53 pm

you guys are hilarious. Anyway, what do you expect when your manager is nearly comatose and your supposed team leader acts like he could not care less. I really hope they don’t bring up the good prospects until Cox and Pendleton are gone. Don’t want them ruined.

=]

April 29th, 2010
6:57 pm

You know it’s bad when Bobby doesn’t even care enough to get ejected anymore. I swear i saw him playing sudoku today.

John, Ducktown

April 29th, 2010
7:01 pm

I’m not “sold” on Wren- he ruined the Orioles by hiring pricey Free Agents in the late 90’s.
A sampling of “non-moves” by Wren:
-Jermaine Dye- Yeah that’s a head scratcher, but nobody has wanted him- something is going on there and it isn’t “racism”
-Griffey? He hit .214 in 2009 with 19HR’s- and he got to DH Garrett Anderson?.268 13HR’s
-Furcal?: He hit .269 in 2009 with 12 SB, he’s off to a good start this year, but is injured
-Burnett? Since 2009 He’s 15-9 with the 100+ win Yankees and an ERA just under 4.00 and he was pricey- he hasn’t produced for the money. . . but we got Lowe
-Johnny Damon- I don’t like the guy, but’s he’s been great with the Tigers this year- but again- he’s an “aging” veteran- His price tag. . .
-Glavine- that was handled poorly, but you can’t tell me he would have done better than Hanson last year
-KK? He was a top pitcher in Japan. . . .. but so is/was Dice K, Koroda, Chan Ho Park, and Hideo Nomo. . . I applaud the Braves for stepping out there- there is a pretty good track record on Japan superstars in the Majors.
-Laroche: I think if he had never played for the Braves’ before. . . he might have resigned. He probably has a bad taste in his mouth with the Braves, yet this is really the only place he has flourished consistently
-Neftali Feliz? He’s struggling right now, but is a good prospect.
-Salty- He’s hit .233 and .253 in a hitters ballpark- TX- he ain’t that good.
-I think the worst move Wren has made is McClouth, but I loved it when it happened, but when you look over McClouth’s #’s, he’s a career .257 hitter and has never hit better than .260 but once, never stole more than 24 bases, has two seasons of 20 or more HR’s. He’s more “name” than anything else, but I’m glad we traded away Morton for him.

RT

April 29th, 2010
7:01 pm

Someone please tell me how T.P. STILL HAS A JOB!

Braves fan in Budapest

April 29th, 2010
7:02 pm

SID- well said with one exception…

“nearly comatose”? At least comatose people do not wake up temporarily to make horrible decisions and then fall back unconscious. At this rate I would take “comatose” over the current management.

This is my last comment before I am heading to sleep – it is 12:59am here. Anyway, I criticize and hope for change because I love the Braves and always have. I hope something changes soon, but I realize that I may have to wait until at least next season.

kwajbraves

April 29th, 2010
7:03 pm

Pick our worse team in the 80s and I guarantee you this team is worse than any of them. I’m looking to forward to 2011 because 2010 is already in the book. Turn of the lights

SID

April 29th, 2010
7:04 pm

Budapest… I said nearly cause he still is able to pick his nose. Jealous, wish I was in Budapest or Prague.

John

April 29th, 2010
7:06 pm

There is some good that may come from the Braves playing so poorly: The value of the franchise will decline as attendance declines allowing Home Depot or Ted to buy the franchise cheaper and put the difference into buying better players, the braves could start this summer bringing top prospects like Freddy to the show to get experience before being brought up when they are a better team putting more preasure to perform faster, management and coaches should be replaced if they finish last, etc. Also for those thinking Pendleton did good because of McCann’s silver slugger, Chipper’s leading the league in batting average and the others on the list. They had their dad as coaches or came from other teams and were good before coming to Atlanta and did not need TP’s help. When all the “baby braves” came up from Atlanta and had good batting that helped Atlanta to there last payoff appearance, that batting coach should be the one promoted to Atlanta.

John, Ducktown

April 29th, 2010
7:06 pm

I know all about Chipper and McCann having their “dad’s” as hitting instructors- but neither of them is hitting right now, so my good math tells me that we got “3″ batting coaches, none of them producing!

Braves’ fan in Budapest. . . . I guess we could lose Friday and be 0-10! I just don’t see the team batting .224 or whatever we are hitting. There is no way we continue to send 4-5 guys a game to the plate who are batting around .200. They’ll either shape up, be gone, benched or replaced. That’s the great thing about baseball. . . there is a minor league to “hopefully” supply the talent. Just think if this were the Falcons or Hawks- you are guaranteed to be stuck with the team you start out with. Of course, the minor leagues didn’t really help the Thrashers. . .

davejb4

April 29th, 2010
7:06 pm

I think his name is Frank Lren.

SID

April 29th, 2010
7:07 pm

kwajbraves…you are so right. At least those teams and the ones from the 70’s gave effort. Most of those teams could hit but the pitching except for Knucksie, God blesshim were terrible.

BRAVES FANATICUS

April 29th, 2010
7:07 pm

I WILL NOT ATTEND ANOTHER GAME AT TURNER FIELD UNTIL THE BUFFOON MANAGER AND HIS BUDDY ON THIRDBASE ARE LONG GONE. BOBBY COX WOULD HAVE BEEN CANNED YEARS AGO IF THIS WERE NY, BOSTON OR PHILADELPHIA WHERE FANS ARE DEMANDING OF THEIR TEAMS. CHIPPER JONES WILL BE INDUCTED INTO THE BRAVES HALL OF FAME & GET A STATUE AT TURNER FIELD (WITH CRUTCHES OR A WHEELCHAIR?), BUT HE WILL NEVER MAKE COOPERSTOWN WHERE THE GREATS OF THE GAME ARE ENSHRINED. WAKE UP ATLANTA AND STOP GUZZLING THE KOOL AID BEING DISPENSED BY WREN , SCHUERHOLZ AND THE OTHER SPIN DOCTORS TRYING TO PEDDLE A LOUSY PRODUCT ON THE FIELD !

Capt Chris

April 29th, 2010
7:14 pm

I just heard the news. MLB has decided that for the rest of the season all of our games will be against Baltimore. That way it won’t be like watching someone drown puppies every game.

TERRY MCGUIRK

April 29th, 2010
7:14 pm

I wonder if Liberty Media will up the payroll by $50 million if there are only 200 fans per game in the park until September? That way they will be desperate to sell to a real LOCAL owner who can also fire the liar McGuirk the Jerk…
They could also make up for this year and let us sign Gonzalez for 7 years…Wren …wow…if he EVER had the testosterone to tell McGuirk and Liberty we NEED CASH FOR A PAYROLL

Paddy O

April 29th, 2010
7:17 pm

Bosox fans are tough – we’ve got Ortiz benched, but he deserved it. I still say : BOYCOTT! Except the Friday Free Fireworks night games – they are fun! Instead of winning 100 for Bobby’s retirement, we sure look like we’ve got the 100 losses lined up.

Stuart

April 29th, 2010
7:18 pm

BTW, Kelly Johnson today: 4 hits including a 3-run homer. That gives him 9 HRs on the season and 18 RBIs to go along with his .320 average. Glad the Braves gave up him instead of Terry Pendleton…

Just think of the talent we have given up that has collectively amounted to nothing in the long run:

Kelly Johnson: .320, 9 HR, 18 RBI
Adam LaRoche: .300, 4 HRs, 17 RBI
Andruw Jones: .260, 6 HRs, 9 RBI
Elvis Andrus: OBP over .400
Jarrod Saltalamacchia: (currently injured)
Jeff Francoeur: .280, 3 HRs, 12 RBI
Jason Marquis: won 11+ games each of the past 6 years
Adam Wainwright: 4-1, 2.13 ERA
Neftali Feliz: 2.81 ERA since he joined the Rangers

It’s one thing if we had given up such talent for talent in return (say..actually re-signing Teixeira or J.D. Drew), but this is what we have given up for essentially nothing in the long run except for half-a-season-one-and-dones. But at least we’ve held onto TP ;) You know his demand is high….

sg7

April 29th, 2010
7:20 pm

What the team needs is a spark, I mean there is no emotion on the braves. I was hoping that the braves pitcher would hit a cardinals batter to get some tempers going. Someone needs to light a fire under them. Maybe Cox should have been thrown out of the game for going face to face with an ump, something?
No emotions at all, someone please hit a braves batter or two so maybe we can have a brawl and maybe then they will get their juices flowing.
Braves fan

blueridge

April 29th, 2010
7:46 pm

Sad day in Braves country. They should just pass back out the baby blues and the oberkfells.

Yes this team is struggling at the plate, but offenses go through slumps. The most worrisome part, which makes it really tough to watch this team, is their decision making skills in the field. The defense is horrible. There is not a plus defensive player on the field, and no not even Escobar. Just because he has a cannon for an arm does not make him a plus defensive player. He makes horrible decisions in the field, very little clock, and has no positioning instincts. And, he is the braves best defensive player.

This team will lose and lose big this year, not because of a very average and slow offense, but because they can’t play defense with anybody in the league.

Farewell Bobby. Smell ya Wren.

bob

April 29th, 2010
8:00 pm

thank god for this blog.

we are dying a death of a 100 losses and we need to share our pain.

just a few points.

1. cox is just average. take away the glavine, smoltz and maddox years and you have a team which is just under 500.

2. chipper. he is 38 but in hospital years he is 58. really, a sweet swing but a sore body.

3. tp. one really has to wonder what he is doing to the hitters…the ones who are here and the ones who left.

4. wren. a great assistant. a lousy gm. really, he signed lowe due to the glavine and smoltz mess last year. and, kk is not a 21m sort of guy. now wren is frozen with his bad moves. did he really say that the tex deal was not bad…if he believes such to be the case he needs to quit his day job and join us on the blog.

thanks.

BRAVES FAN

April 29th, 2010
8:06 pm

SEND LIBERY MEDIA & FRANK WREN A MESSAGE THEY WILL UNDERSTAND : STOP WASTING YOUR MONEY AT TURNER FIELD ! WHEN THE PLACE IS EMPTY, THEY WILL SCRAMBLE AND REALIZE NOBODY WANTS TO SEE AN INFERIOR PRODUCT ON THE BASEBALL FIELD. THEY CAN ONLY MANIPULATE THE 1991-2005 YEARS FOR SO LONG.

Count de Monet

April 29th, 2010
8:33 pm

Time for the old Donkey to go.

Steve

April 29th, 2010
8:49 pm

Wow so much hope dashed so soon. This team is really bad. We gave up our best pitcher for this? Maybe Bobby will finally see they are NOT playing good baseball, if this team is I would hate to see bad but am sure we will.

kwajbraves

April 29th, 2010
9:06 pm

I will gladly eat my words on September if this team turns it around but I’m pretty confident that we are bound for 90 loss season maybe the only silver lining is that empty seats will persuade Liberty to sell. I still love my Braves and I will support them even that we are World Suck Champions right now. Go Braves… 2011 Braves that is.

kwajbraves

April 29th, 2010
9:16 pm

Next time that we sign any droids user, let sign somebody who can still hit. I guess the Braves front office is waiting for Alex Rodriguez to be 50 years old to make him an offer.

Roto Rooter

April 29th, 2010
9:25 pm

SportsSouth is actually repeating this afternoon’s game. ROTFLMAO. Any masochists out there?

kwajbraves

April 29th, 2010
9:51 pm

The only difference on being a braves fan between the 80s and 2010 is that now we have blog to vent our frustrations. In the 80s we got drunk and prayed for a miracle. Maybe is time to start passing the tequila.

farel

April 29th, 2010
10:11 pm

ALL the atlanta teams play like this and then the players have the “stones” to call out the fans for not supporting them.

farel

April 29th, 2010
10:15 pm

kwajbraves, I like your thinking. Set me up with a double and a beer chaser! We need to start a support group with regular meetings at a local pub.

Brava

April 29th, 2010
10:21 pm

This is not a bad team. I was at the season opener and refuse to believe it was a fluke. These guys have the ability to play and play well, they just aren’t using it. Something has to give soon and the floodgates will open. Keep the faith, Braves fans. It’s early yet.

benchwarmer

April 29th, 2010
10:33 pm

To bad just to d***ed bad. This city deserves better. The Braves have joined the Hawks and Thrashers as another team that shows up for the money but forgot the show. The only thing left is a couple of blogs. Care to quess how long they will be popular now that the source has dived under the ice for the season.

alaaandru

April 29th, 2010
10:36 pm

Melky diving for the short-fly? Very sad. Glaus as expected, finished. But really surprised re: McLouth, when he came on board, I truly thought we had a gem…I can’t figure why he has done so poorly, and never has put together a real good string of hits…is it this depressing to be a Brave in 2010?

JRW7

April 29th, 2010
10:45 pm

9 in a row. Worse team in MLB, and our GM, FW is not worried. Says no plans for any changes. Give me a break!!!!! Fire TP now!!!!!

kwajbraves

April 29th, 2010
11:08 pm

farel.. I quit drinking a long time ago but watching this team play make wish that I wouldn’t. The TV transmission should start with a warning “Watching the Braves play may cause depression and uncontrollable urge to get drunk” BTW: Somebody has to take away the bottle from Brava he/she said that this is not a bad team.

Bernard Mack

April 29th, 2010
11:32 pm

It is time for Bobby and Chipper to ride into the sunset now!!! Don’t wait until the end of the year. Chipper should consider the American League as a DH. hIs fielding is getting progressively worse.
Bobby had a closed meeting several days ago? The results thereafter? More losses. Bobby does not motivate anymore and manages dull, boring baseball where focus is nonexistant. Just like at a Yankees game and a Braves games. Observe the intensity of play…Wow!

Cool Dude

April 29th, 2010
11:38 pm

Hey Brava, congratulations! I was at the “magical” home opener too. Obviously that game was a huge fluke because, I don’t know if you have been watching, but the Braves have lost 9 straight games with no hitting (or pitching) whatsoever. There is obviously a motivational and leadership issue here. I can’t wait for the old codger Bobby Cox to retire and take that terrible hitting coach TP with him. This is inexcusable.

John, Ducktown

April 29th, 2010
11:51 pm

Stuart, at 7:18PM. I wish you were still on here. Your list of players that we don’t have any more . . . . trust me, we don’t want them.
KJ: He was red hot last year, batting like .430 for 3-4 weeks, then he went like 4-48 or something like that and lost his job to Prado. KJ is hot, but he won’t make it last- and he’s in a hitter’s ballpark.
Adam LaRoche: .300, 4 HRs, 17 RBI- this is the first time he’s ever left April batting over .250- He’s worn out his welcome in Atl & don’t forget, he had a career day today, pretty much doubling his HR and RBI total. Remember, Willie Harris had 6 hits in a game one year in July and didn’t get but 12 more the rest of the year.
Andruw Jones: .260, 6 HRs, 9 RBI- Guy hit .194 and .214 last two years- nobody saw this coming- it’s been 4 years since he was productive.
Elvis Andrus: OBP over .400- We would not have started him over Escobar to start the season- Escobar was our MVP last year, hit .300 & led majors in BAvg with runners in scoring position
Jarrod Saltalamacchia: (currently injured)- he is horrible. Never hit over .240 in TX- a hitters paradise
Jeff Francoeur: .280, 3 HRs, 12 RBI- two weeks ago he was hitting .440 with 3HR and 10 RBI. He is cooling off fast
Jason Marquis: won 11+ games each of the past 6 years- HE had his chance and blew it. We didn’t have time to wait around on him. We’ve got plenty of pitchers than pitched better and won 11+ games last year and the year before.
Adam Wainwright: 4-1, 2.13 ERA- Worst Trade last decade. This one breaks my heart.
Neftali Feliz: 2.81 ERA since he joined the Rangers- His ERA right now is like 5.8.
And don’t even mention TEX- his stats are identical to Glaus’- in fact, Glaus is hitting 70 points higher- which means Tex would not have prevented any of this.
Guys, everyone on this blog is looking at a small sample size of guys that we let go that needed to go (except Wainwright) and possibly Laroche.

Cool Dude

April 30th, 2010
12:05 am

Great post Ducktown. I never understood taking a chance on the over the hill, injured Troy Glaus. If we are just using him as a hold-over for Freeman, why didn’t we just resign Laroche. At least we know that he will produce in the last half of the season and not perform as bad as any of our other hitters in the first month of the season. Just blows my mind.

rebels1978

April 30th, 2010
12:30 am

Where’s Jerry Royster when you need him?

I Hate Liberty Media

April 30th, 2010
1:08 am

This team is a joke. If it takes losing 100 games and having abysmal attendance numbers to purge the organization of Liberty Media, Frank Wren, Bobby Cox, Terry Pendleton, Chipper Jones, Troy Glaus, Melky Cabrera, Matt Diaz, Nate McLouth, Kenshin Kawakami, and Derek Lowe, so be it. We’ll be better off for it in the long run.

yogi b

April 30th, 2010
2:05 am

terry pendleton is our problem

bigstack19

April 30th, 2010
3:17 am

All of you ripping Bobby Cox need to chill. He has forgotten more about the game than you all will ever hope to know and you should just sit back and reflect on what he was able to accomplish with this team and appreciate what he did here. He helped build the farm system up when he was GM and then led this team to the playoffs all those years from 1991-2005. No other team in baseball history has ever had such a sustained period of success as the Braves did. You bemoan the one World Series won but how many did they have before that period? Zero. When they moved from Milwaukee to Atlanta in 1966 until 1991 they won zero playoff games and only made the playoffs twice. You need to remember those dark days before you vent all your rage at Bobby Cox. He manages the players he is given by an idiot GM and an ownership group that doesn’t give a damn.Bobby Cox should be celebrated in his last year for what he has done and not ripped to pieces by the idiot fair weather fans who are only behind this team when they win big. For those of you who want to claim to be real fans who have been with this team all of your lives I say B.S. You fell off the bandwagon pretty fast this year. I know things look bad now but I promise that they are building for the future assuming Frank Wren doesn’t screw it up and the ownership sells to someone who cares. Every team loses. It is a part of sports. Things go in cycles. To rip Bobby Cox after all he has done for this team, you should all be ashamed and I would prefer you stay off the bandwagon and go become Yankee fans. Nobody will miss you or even know you are gone.

TPic

April 30th, 2010
8:45 am

And just what has Cox done, bigstack? Oh, I know. Win one (that’s right, one) championship with what has been widely regarded as the best starting rotation in baseball history, a (some think) hall of fame 3rd baseman and countless other very good players. The Braves have been consistent winners IN SPITE of Cox, not because of him. Any other competent manager (Alou, Torre, Larussa, etc.) would have gotten at least three rings from those rosters. All you need to know is that two days ago “it doesn’t look like it, but we’re playing great baseball” to “this is horrible”. You mean losing only eight in a row wasn’t horrible? Please tell me this isn’t the mental capacity you dream of in a manager.

Packer Ed

April 30th, 2010
8:47 am

Folks, be aware of this, the Atlanta Braves do not have enough money to compete anymore. Making the situation worse, when you make mistakes like signing Derek Lowe and keeping Chipper Jones past his prime, game over.

Frank Wren does not get all the blame.

Don

April 30th, 2010
9:03 am

With Bobby Cox’s Country Club Spring Training, lack of significant off season conditioning requirements, and lack of a demanding conditioning program during the season – the injuries will just keep coming and coming. But the players love him and this is his top priority – not what is good for the team.

Dwayne

April 30th, 2010
9:05 am

Yall know the reason for these mediocre hitting players is the fault of no other than Terry Pendleton, Hank Aaron’s pick to replace Booby, if Pendleton was let go, Hank would play the race card so quick your head will spin. I hope TP makes a better manager, because he sure sux as a hitting coach.

Don

April 30th, 2010
9:06 am

Another injured pitcher – and the pitching injuries we are getting now are not old pitchers. Leo, along with his other qualifications as pitching coach, had a great conditioning program for pitchers – and did not have a significant number of injuries over the years – even with the older pitchers.
With Leo available, why was McDowell re-hired for this season. Did Leo get too much credit for the Braves’ success to suit Bobby’s ego??
The last time that Leo was our pitching coach was the last time that the Braves won the Division.

Dwayne

April 30th, 2010
9:08 am

BIGstack, I agree, he has forgot more about baseball than YOU know, not me. Booby has alzheimers and wears depends. He poops his pants. He has got to go.

Don

April 30th, 2010
9:16 am

Hank Aaron was a great player; but when he has not shown any significant qualifications as a baseball administrator. Years ago when he was making some of the improtant decisions relating to player selection and development – were very bad years for the Braves. Now he seems to be more of a figurehead – which is OK to have a title of honor. But you are right, he has tried to play the race card (unnecessiarly) at every opportunity. It is going to be a terrible shame if he tries to exert his influence to get Pendelton hired as manager. That will be the last straw as far as the Braves being able to make a comeback.

Braves Fan No More

April 30th, 2010
9:43 am

Before the season started, I told you all that this team could lose 90-100 games and you all laughed at me. Well, I’m laughing now. If the Braves ever do get a real owner (not a corporate one) and clean house (front office, manager, coaching staff and all non-performing players), I’ll be a fan again. Until then, I hope of you unconditional fans continue to enjoy one of the most disfunctional teams in MLB. Prediction: Look for more players on this horrible team to get “injured” as time passes and things get worse.

Larry Wayne

April 30th, 2010
10:00 am

This losing streak is payback from the baseball gods after that bush league homerun celebration for McLouth.

TPic

April 30th, 2010
10:40 am

What are the Braves chances of making the post-season? Glad you asked. Over the previous ten seasons, the average number of wins required to reach the playoffs in the National League was 89. (That even takes into consideration 82 game division winners). For the Braves to compile that record, they would need to go 81-59(.578)the rest of the way. Beginning in 2006 (not counting the juggernaut club this year), Cox has “managed” his team to a less than .500 (321-327) mark. Seems the fat cheerleader has been long overdue for a promotion into oblivion. And by the way, for all those wanting to rid the club of the hitting coach, check out where they have been in runs scored recently. Even this team strikes out at below the league average and leads the league in walks, so apparently they have an approach that gives them a chance to reach base. So that leaves bunting, hit and run, attempted steals, etc. as the problem. That is not a hitting coach problem – that is an issue with strategy. And strategy is supposed to be in the hands of the manager. Instead, the Braves have a 70 year old man who sits in the dugout with a catcher’s mitt as if he can snare anything that rockets through there.

Dwayne

April 30th, 2010
10:41 am

Larry Wayne, it was your idea. Chipper, nick name for a 10 year old. Time to grow up Larrrrrrry

Don

April 30th, 2010
11:28 am

Bigstack19 – “Reflect on what Cox has been able to accomplish with the Braves”
Yes, let’s do that. With one of the greatest pitching staffs in baseball history along with very talented position players, he was able to convert FOURTEEN Post Season opportunities into ONE World Series win. Yes, that is ONE out of FOURTEEN opportuniies.
And even then, we should count our blessings – With Cox managing, we were EXTREMELY FORTUNATE, EXTREMELY LUCKY to eveh have the ONE. This could easily and perhaps should have been ZERO – with Cox managing.
Peple forget that it required Glavine to pitch a SHUTOUT in the final game for Cox to even salvage the ONE WS.
The great pitching staffs enabled the Braves to win the Division over the long 162 game regular season schedule in spite of, now because of Cox’s management procedures and lack thereof. He is probably the most overrated manager in baseball history. He did do an outstanding job of maintaining team unity, team spirit etc – but that is about it.

TPic

April 30th, 2010
11:50 am

Another nugget…Cox’s winning percentage in the regular season is .571. In the postseason, .500. That is a HUGE disparity that cannot be explained away by luck, chance or anything else outside his control. His lack of applying fundamental baseball and using strategy has been exposed when he faces managers who actually understand the game. I would like to see Cox sleep the entire game from now on, not just the last three innings. Let the players decide how to play, and see if there is any appreciable difference in their won-lost record. I’m guessing not.

TPic

April 30th, 2010
11:52 am

Managers don’t win games, but they can and do lose them.

fire TP!

April 30th, 2010
12:00 pm

Here is a prime reason why we should fire TP: Kelly johnson has more hrs than last year and could easily hit at least 20 hrs this year! Kelly- 9 hrs, 18 rbis, LaRoche- 4hr, 17 rbis. The only good hitters we have are prado and heyward. Get a new hitting coach and maybe the braves can escape from this funk!

fire TP!

April 30th, 2010
12:01 pm

we need all postion players on our team to be good hitters if we want to get bobby that elusive ws title! Right now we aint goin anywhere!

fire TP!

April 30th, 2010
12:03 pm

if chipper is chipper he should be “chipping” some homeruns!

fire TP!

April 30th, 2010
12:03 pm

big-mac stop being a salad! Please crush some long balls! We want big-mac!

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