2:18 pm April 29, 2010, by David O'Brien
April 29th, 20104:48 pm
correcting hinski to hinske … i’m so disgusted i can’t even spell
Maybe Ted Turner will save us!
April 29th, 20104:49 pm
thinking about it… the 8 games we’ve won this year have been extremely exciting to watch. and i miss that. i need my fix ATL. please supply me now!
We was in First Place one Day… We was 8-5
April 29th, 20104:50 pm
It’s ok folks I’m retiring this year… wait… or is it getting fired this year? hmmm… can’t remember. oh well. Norton! grab a bat! where’s Norton?
April 29th, 20104:51 pm
BOYCOTT TO THE BRAVES !!! I am very TIRED OF SEEING ALWAYS THE SAME , ANOTHER YEAR LOST .
Right here Bobby.
Kelly Johnson hit his 9th homer today. Kelly, who I always liked struggled big time with the Braves. Why? Terry Pendleton should be given the ax. Braves batting avg. is pathetic. Also, Bobby should have been asked to step down 2 years ago. He lives in LALA land, and his post game comments are not in touch with reality. Who is Frank Wren? Do you see what he has brought in and calls it a baseball team?
Start me at 1st tomorrow.
April 29th, 20104:52 pm
How bad is it? The Braves have petitioned the Commissioner’s office for the exclusive right to steal first base.
Don’t worry Braves Fan if i win the Lotto i will buy this team and clean House.
April 29th, 20104:53 pm
Also, lets give Corky the start at catcher!
is it possible that if the braves continue to be crap that bobby should be fired?
April 29th, 20104:54 pm
Let’s look at the positives:
-It “appears” keeping Lowe over Javy was a good move.
Javy is 1-3, 9.00 ERA, Lowe is 3-1 (40% of Braves’ wins and run production!) 5.79 ERA,
-Heyward leads team in HR’s (5), RBI’s (17)
-Hinske has the most pinch-hits in the NL & I believe Majors
-Prado leads the league in hitting
-Braves can’t lose more than 154 games this year!
-Good & cheap seats to be had at home games (remember the days in Fulton County Stadium?)
-More prospects to come up
Heck, I can’t come up with anything, which is how bad we are.
Surely, surely, come June 1, we won’t be starting 4-5 guys a game batting below the Mendoza Line.
My vote for Hitting Coach? And I’m not kidding. . . JULIO FRANCO! SOB is the oldest guy to hit a HR, hit .300 and steal a base! He’s got a great attitude and is a fan favorite- not to mention, the Braves actually hit well those 5 years he played for the Braves.
thank god i am playing softball to night. at least i have some controll on weather we win or lose. hey chipper, my quad is a little sore and we are on a 2 game losing streak but i am going to play!
April 29th, 20104:55 pm
I think maybe a Bobby Bowden act. He “leaves on his own.” I doubt it though.
April 29th, 20104:56 pm
Kelly Johnson Hit another homerun today.
DO NOT ATTEND THE STADIUM , ATLANTA BRAVES MANAGEMENT WE MUST RESPECT AS FAN . BOYCOTT TO THE BRAVES . DO NOT ATTEND THE STADIUM .
JULIO FRANCO FOR HITTING COACH! He’s the oldest man to hit a HR and Steal a Base- We need hitting and good base running. Think I’m kidding? How could it be worse?
April 29th, 20104:57 pm
What would this team look like if we had a real owner? 1B-LaRoch or Tex. 2b-Prado SS-Andres 3b-Chipper or Yunel OF-Heyward, K.Johnson, A.Jones, C-McCann. Just on players we didnt’ keep. Forgot about Salty.
Brad from AL
Chipper will be hurt next. Its been a few day since he has been hurt.
April 29th, 20104:58 pm
“Pete” presents the questions that cry for answers. How about it, DOB? TP certainly isn’t the villain responsible for this mess. I’ve never believed that any coach (including Leo M.) is really worth his weight when it comes to making players produce. But this teams needs a jolt to get it to wake up. Maybe TP should at least fall on his sword (he won’t cuz he can taste the mgr’s office). But does anyone really beleive a new hitting coach will turn things around?
April 29th, 20105:04 pm
Kelly Johnson just hit his 9th HR. Awesome job Wren. He almost has as many as the entire Braves team. LOL
Gotta go see the Braves play, I’m too young to have seen the 62 Mets. At least they (62 Mets) had a few hitters.
OMG what a pathetic excuse for a Major League team right now.
April 29th, 20105:05 pm
Pull out the POWDER BLUES………………………………..These are the BRAVES OF THE 80′S.
Can you say stirrups, tight knit uniforms, long hair and bad baseball.
Bad baseball by a over the hill manager and a terrible GM. Look at the payrolls for other teams that are performing better than the BRAVES. To bad most people in baseball would hate the BRAVES if they fired BOOBY COX in his swansong year.
Should we be surprised when we put our hopes on an overhill manager, overhill 3B named LARRY, and a pitcher in DLOWE that we could not give away. Also, the payroll is low, so we should not expect anymore than what we have. But still embarrasing to have this payroll and have the 2nd to last worse record in baseball.
Team Total payroll for 2010
New York Yankees $ 206,333,389
Boston Red Sox $ 162,447,333
Chicago Cubs $ 146,609,000
Philadelphia Phillies $ 141,928,379
New York Mets $ 134,422,942
Detroit Tigers $ 122,864,928
Chicago White Sox $ 105,530,000
Los Angeles Angels $ 104,963,866
San Francisco Giants $ 98,641,333
Minnesota Twins $ 97,559,166
Los Angeles Dodgers $ 95,358,016
St. Louis Cardinals $ 93,540,751
Houston Astros $ 92,355,500
Seattle Mariners $ 86,510,000
Atlanta Braves $ 84,423,666
Colorado Rockies $ 84,227,000
Baltimore Orioles $ 81,612,500
Milwaukee Brewers $ 81,108,278
Tampa Bay Rays $ 71,923,471
Cincinnati Reds $ 71,761,542
Kansas City Royals $ 71,405,210
Toronto Blue Jays $ 62,234,000
Washington Nationals $ 61,400,000
Cleveland Indians $ 61,203,966
Arizona Diamondbacks $ 60,718,166
Florida Marlins $ 57,034,719
Texas Rangers $ 55,250,544
Oakland Athletics $ 51,654,900
San Diego Padres $ 37,799,300
Pittsburgh Pirates $ 34,943,000
time to get on a charted plane, land in the ATL and get in your Ferrari and drive home, for shame
Lay off TP guys. The hitting coach is only groomed to handle one maybe two slumps at a given time…..not 9-10 simultaneously. He is simply overloaded. You can see it on his face, his body language, he looks depressed, probably on mega Paxil or Wellbutrin. Probably the loneliest soul on that team right about now. He needs our support.., I feel your pain TP!!
April 29th, 20105:07 pm
Why isn’t Hinske the starting 1b? All he does is pound that ball hard. Let Glaus play his way INTO 1b, not out of it, wtf
Let’s face facts here – everybody over the offseason was very skeptical of the moves made by Frank Wren. Selling Javier for a bag of peanuts and getting no ammo on offense in the trade. Getting over the hill Glaus, average Melkey and basically doing nothing to help our abysmal offense last year. Heyward was the only good thing to happen so far and Wren really had nothing to do with that. Then they go out and blow up the Cubs in game 1 and get a couple come from behind wins and everybody jumps on the bandwagon.
Reality check folks – this team is no better (and perphaps much worse) than last year. We all saw it coming this offseason – just temporarily blinded by some greatness from Heyward and a couple lucky breaks (i.e. the come from behind HR from Glaus and Nate to beat the Phillies)
No need the trade the farm system – nothing to do but ride out this piss poor year – get rid of Cox, Chipper, Glaus, Wren, Pendelton and Lowe – grab us a high 1st round pick and clean f-ing house start over and pray the falcons do something this year.
Yes keep Bobby foe the entire year, and TP for a few more years….don’t we want to see 6,000 folks in the seats again ?
That will be so good for business they will sell the team, and hopefully a owner with a desire to succeed with buy them.
April 29th, 20105:08 pm
Embarrassing to have this payroll and not perform better. Look at the Florida Marlins payroll.
April 29th, 20105:09 pm
The Braves should try to get Chipper healthy–is that possible?; get him hitting and then trade him mid-season for youth. Of course, they should have done that two years ago. When you let good players go consistently because you can’t pay them, then try to fill holes with also-rans, you’ve descended into baseball purgatory–home of all low- to mid-budget teams. The Braves are nothing but a slightly more respectable version of the Pirates.
Any other team in baseball would make some type of change to make a point. Fire a coach, release a player, fire sale anything to see a different result. This has to be done now or the season will be lost. Oh by the way just checked and no big savings on tix yet!!!
April 29th, 20105:10 pm
Talent and pace converge in Tampa (Olney Piece)
April, 29, 2010
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An opposing pitcher drifted over to chat with some of his professional peers on the Rays’ roster before a game recently. “I hate playing you guys,” he said. “You guys are always running.”
We’re reaching the end of April this week and the Tampa Bay Rays’ run differential already is at a whopping plus-59. It’s a staggering pace that they won’t maintain, of course, but when you watch their games play out, they look like a team with a plus-59 run differential. Because of Tampa Bay’s extraordinary athleticism and depth of talent, they look like they’re coming at you in waves.
Frank, Scouting Dept and Coaching Staff – please watch every Rays game and see what a design center can do for a team. They have a team philosophy and design approach – its not just about coming in last for 10 years and getting the picks.
The Pirates came in last as well but look at them.
You need more than decent pitching and a random collection of guys many of whom you were forced to trade for or sign b/c your plan A fell through to win.
The Braves are a mishmash of pieces with some decent pitching and 3R HR game plan. That model no longer works in MLB as your record can attest.
This team will never win until it decides what the heck is suppose to be and without a 150mm budget they will never be a big time power team.
It is time to take a completely new approach – speed, athleticism, youth, passionate players, defense and some reason amount of pop.
Today you have almost none of that and the performance we are seeing today and over the past 5-6 years is not really a surprise when you look at how this team has been assembled.
Step one go get Don Mattingly as your new manager – grab him before the Dodgers work a back room deal b/c you know they are working towards that.
He will put this team on a totally new path and would not tolerate the kind of play we are seeing from this club.
The Braves way needs a complete retooling not a coat a paint associated with a former or current Brave crony.
April 29th, 20105:11 pm
Dawgs1, yes the positive is that Chavez who sux like the rest of our team has decided not to accept the second half of his over priced contract ($6 Million) and retire at the end of the year. Great news, now if only Chipper and Wren will follow suit we will have a chance in 2011. Braves suck, season is over.
April 29th, 20105:14 pm
Melky walks and gets the occasional single, what’s up with that? He’s an AL looking OF to boot.
Luv 2 Hate Me
April 29th, 20105:15 pm
Bottom line! Being cheap will get you nothing in baseball these days. You have to spend money or wait years for your minor leaguers to develop. Also I think it’s time for Bobby to leave. He should’ve bounced after last season.
Ga in Hi
April 29th, 20105:21 pm
The gm usually goes and gets players the field mgr wants, so…
Just how much weight does cox have over the GM…It seems as if he and CJ have all the power over the GM…The Mgr must know CJ is hurt, unless he has slowed that much either way it is time to GO. I can’t see any AL taking him as a DH.
I wish the old Atlanta Crackers still were in town.
April 29th, 20105:23 pm
While it is not time to panick yet, it is time to consider making some serious changes. I like TP but as a hitting coach it is way past tme to make a change. It is obvious that that players either do not respect him as a batting coach or are not listening. Players leave and do better elsewhere, Kelly Johnson, Franceour, etc. The second is a change to the lineup. Heyward is going to be the 3rd place hitter for a number of years. He should be put there now with Chipper 4, McCann 5, Escobar 6, Hinske/Glause 7, Mclouth/Cabreara/Dias 8th. I think the offense will click better with this lineup as Heyward should see better pitches with Chipper behind him, Heyward has more speed so if Chipper gets a hit it should help move Heyward around and with Prado in front Heyward should have more RBI chances then when he hits homers with no one on base. Both Heyward, Chipper and McCann should benefit from this and the braves should score more runs. Glaus should definitely be moved out of the clean-up spot.
April 29th, 20105:24 pm
The Braves are really disappointing, but they are still my team and I will root for them all year. I just wish Wren would stop making excuses.
Why not have FUN with this. Going to a BRaves game in the late 70s and 80s was FUN. You could park anywhere you like – I liked the curb next to the stdium. You have your own beer guy, your own p-nut guy and they’d sometimes sit down with you and yell at Lemke. And he HEARD you. EVeryone in the park heard you cuz there were only about 2500 people there – most to see the opposition because we had/have a large contingent of yankees who’ve chosen to live in our midst. DOn’t complain, most of them pay taxes.
So sit back, have a brewsky, and ENJOY THE GAME!
April 29th, 20105:25 pm
John, that is the thing. The Braves may be listening to TP, that is why they can’t hit. Jones and McCann have always been the better of hitters on the team and followed their dad’s instead of TP.
THis just in: Oil spill will not hit shore, moving back out to sea thanks to strong winds generated by Troy Glaus’ bat during St. Louis series
For the first time since 2006 when I moved back to Atlanta, I did not watch a single pitch of the four game Cardinal-Braves series. I did not miss these shameful losses and I am not sure I even care.
Perhaps we should be hoping for a 20 game losing streak so that we can commence with the firesale/DFA and get the kids up, so they can benefit from some playing time. Really looking forward to 2011 and no Bobby Cox or Terry Pendleton.
So glad I did not renew the season tickets this year.
April 29th, 20105:26 pm
Hell, maybe the Braves will drop prices for going since no one will pay sky rocket prices for parking, food, seats or anything else just to see a team lose.
The meat of the lineup is hamburger right now. Time to start giving some guys who can produce more ABs: Hinske, Conrad, Infante, Ross. I’d give Diaz some chances, too, though he doesn’t seem his normal line-drive-hitting self.
April 29th, 20105:27 pm
Is there any chance you will grow a pair and ask the tough questions to Bobby and Wren DOB? LIke, “At what point do you make changes? When you lose 10 straight and have the lowest batting average? Or 20 straight and have the fewest HR? How does TP still have a job when our former players are hitting so well. How does TP have a job when we have 5 regualrs hitting under .200 How does TP have a job when our leadoff hitters are hitting under .100? How does Bobby have a job when we continue to make mental and fundamental mistakes. Any other sport and any other coach would have been getting ask these questions?
April 29th, 20105:29 pm
Pete, Bobby’s response will be something like, “Our players are just in a slump right now, they will come through, and I do not plan on making changes yet, because we have a really talented team that is just struggling.”
April 29th, 20105:32 pm
dump every player exceopt heyward.This is the worst bunch of bums we have ever had.It is time to start over.This is the worst team in baseball.I hate to say it but it is time to boycott the home games and tv until we get an owner. I am done with these losers.
I Hate Liberty Media
I wish the Atlanta media was tougher, like the New York media. I believe these hacks that call themselves a baseball team should be held accountable.
April 29th, 20105:33 pm
No more can’t wait for the next Braves game for me. This is just sad. So many of the guys we traded away are much better than what we have now. Ted Turner, where the heck are you? Please buy the Braves and field us a team again!!!
Braves fan in Budapest
I was wondering how to organize my time between the Braves and the World Cup when I get back stateside….I guess that problem is solved now. Hey at least the World Cup should be interesting.
I agree with good grief, if they lose to the Astros then Glaus, Chipper, Melky, Diaz, McClouth, Kawakami, and Lowe all need to be sent to Gwinnett (sorry Gwinnett), and the Braves need to call to the farm to replace them. Hinske can cover 3rd base, Freeman can cover 1st base, Infante can be moved to the outfield. Seriously, the players above (with the exception of Diaz) have no clue, no passion, and no grit. Diaz is just streaking poorly all the others covered above are beyond their time or have lost their ambition and skill.
Next, I loved the guy as player (he was my favorite), but Pendleton needs to go…just look at the objective facts. Bobby needs to become an inactive manager – he can still sit in the clubhouse and be honored as the manager but no more game decisions should be left to him. Frank Wren needs to get at least one good hitter, or he goes…period. I have been a Braves fan since birth and will love them until I die, but this is pathetic. Sorry for the rant, but the changes need to be rung in because this obviously is not a professional caliber team.
April 29th, 20105:34 pm
bp, if you are a true Braves fan you will not turn from them. It is normal to be really angry and disappointed for their performance, but a true Braves fan will remain a fan win or lose. They are horrible, I admit, but I will continue to support them.
April 29th, 20105:35 pm
For all of you younger fans and bandwagon fans whose memory of the Atlanta Braves begins in or after 1991…welcome to the 1970s and mid- to late- 1980s.
Anthony in Atlanta(Go Braves)
April 29th, 20105:36 pm
Your right about needing patients with this braves team….
Wren can go out and pick up some more old players, I think a few are “patients” at Our Lady of the Everswinging Bat Hospice.
Either that or we can go the Mexican leagues and trade a box of baseballs for a first baseman.
Meanwhile take a gander at Kelly Johnson, Jeff Francoeur, and Adam Laroche… So darn sad.
I Hate Liberty Media, I grew up watching them win because I was born in ‘87. However, I am no band wagon fan, but it still stings that they don’t make the playoffs anymore. Of course getting used to it takes time, but you never want to get used to that.
What is the record for consecutive losses?That’s something to shoot for
April 29th, 20105:37 pm
Wish Skip Caray were still alive and calling games. He could make us laugh about the current loosing streak.
April 29th, 20105:39 pm
“Well, folks, you can go walk your dog now.”
I miss Skip.
Meanwhile, LaRoche goes deep twice with and Kelly Johnson goes yard once for the D-Backs. They have eight RBI between them, and that’s just TODAY.
April 29th, 20105:40 pm
This ain’t Chicago. This is Georgia. We don’t love losers here.
April 29th, 20105:42 pm
Sure would be nice if Wren had given Kelly and Adam another year or so with the Braves. I’d like to have ‘Druw back in center field also.
Bobby Cox and Braves management finally are exposed. Cox’s managing style got by with very little offense because with the great pitching he had for those 14 seasons he really didn’t need much. The great pitching and defense are gone and so are the winning seasons but the puny offense remains. The strategy of one and done players has caught up to the Braves. They have no lead off man – could have been Elvis Andrus but no, they had to have Tex – but couldn’t keep him. They have no slugging first baseman. They just let Adam LaRoche, the only remnant left of the Tex trade, walk away. This is a pattern that keeps repeating. So, we have another one and doner at first who is doing nothing. Terry Pendleton’s weakness as a hitting coaching is abysmal. Gone are Kelly Johnson who leads the National League in home runs and Jeff Francoer who is pretty successful with the Mets. Don’t even mention what happened to Jordan Schafer. Both Melky and McClouth have gone from good hitters to no-hitters under Pendleton’s tutelage. Soon Jason Heyward will be ruined and cast off because the Pendleton and Cox stamp will be on him. He’ll wind up being a star on another team “because he needs a change of scenery” when the Braves give up on him. But maybe, just maybe, he’ll last the season before Cox and Terry ruin him completely so another manager can get the Braves out of the mire. Now that Bobby has said he is retiring five years too late, we can’t fire him or Pendleton. It just wouldn’t be “right.” God forbid they make Pendleton the next manager.
April 29th, 20105:43 pm
Way to go Frank, you get rid of Adam LaRoche for Troy Glaus. Real Smooooooooooooooooooooooth!!!!
April 29th, 20105:44 pm
April 29th, 20105:45 pm
You have to turn away from this crap.Don’t go to the games don’t buy merchandise don’t watch on tv.It is the only thing corporate jackasses understand.
You’ve got to admire how the Cards have built around Pujols and Holladay. Shumaker, Ludwick, Rasmus, Freese — a group of no-names who are playing like studs. I don’t like Tony LaRussa much, but the man knows his baseball flesh, and how to deploy it.
April 29th, 20105:53 pm
Now that the starting rotation has given up this year is over.Oh I gave up a three run jack I think chipper said my hamstring is hurt.waaaaaaaa
April 29th, 20105:54 pm
As I’ve always said, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is insanity. Bobby Cox! Managing the same way over and over and expecting different results is just plain crazy. At this point in your career, why not try singles and manufacturing runs…it’s OK to win 3 to 2.
April 29th, 20105:55 pm
Jair: “Hey Chipper, thanks for showing me that new stretching routine. I can tell it;s working alrea……………..OW! OW! MY HAMSTRING!”
April 29th, 20105:56 pm
Why the **** is Troy starting over me? I actually have a batting average that’s bigger than my age
April 29th, 20105:57 pm
MY EYES! It hurts too much to watch!
you all do realize that even if we have the number 1 pick in next year’s draft, that its not a given we could sign that player? seriously, where do we get the 20 million to sign this kid?
Liberty Media Group
April 29th, 20105:58 pm
“you all do realize that even if we have the number 1 pick in next year’s draft, that its not a given we could sign that player? seriously, where do we get the 20 million to sign this kid?”
You can’t have it.
April 29th, 20106:02 pm
The Rally Booger! was admitted to the nervous hospital today for depression and addiction to Sinutab. I”ll keep you updated on his progress.
Braves have the second worst record in all of baseball. I know it’s still early but that is just terrible.
Dave, If you monitor these posts you can tell what the sentiments from the fans are. I am a lifelong fan for 28 years, we are not going to put up with this standard. I remember ‘88, ‘89, and 90 quite well and this is worse. When are you going to start asking Bobby and Wren the real tough questions…We the fans and we are flat sick of this ho-hum-denial-of-reality stance and we aren’t toddlers – we are the ticket holders and purchasers.
April 29th, 20106:05 pm
C’mon. It’s not that bad. Only nine in a row while scoring about two runs over the same period. You just wait! The sun’ll come up tomorrow on a new day and……………$h– who am I kidding.
April 29th, 20106:06 pm
Dave, you buy tickets in Budapest???
Braves fan in Budapest I mean, not Dave
April 29th, 20106:08 pm
Budapest you are right on.boycott the games and tv and maybe they will get it.
April 29th, 20106:09 pm
NO! Don’t do that! Continue to support our mediocre product, because that’s all you get!
April 29th, 20106:11 pm
THIS JUST IN…A group of Phillipine business men has plans to purchase the Atlanta Braves and change the team name to ‘The Manila Folders’. Win one for the Gimper (at least one, ok?)
April 29th, 20106:12 pm
Liberty that was funny!
…left this out: ba-da-bing, ba-da-boom!!!
April 29th, 20106:13 pm
Liberty Media Group – No, but I will be back in Atlanta soon and when I left, I was PLANNING on buying tickets as soon as I got back…but I will not if no changes are made FAST!
I normally live in Atlanta and attend the games, but I am tired of this like I was when we choked last season, and the season before that, and the season before that…and it is certainly not looking any better. Need I comment on the way the team is choking this year. Anyway its after midnight and I should grab some sleep. Hopefully when I wake up tomorrow morning something will have changed drastically.
April 29th, 20106:14 pm
well, buda, it *will* be a different day, but…
April 29th, 20106:15 pm
What’s an adductor muscle? I believe they just made that up.
April 29th, 20106:18 pm
But Buda, what’s more important? Making money or winning baseball games? Pretty easy decision for me.
April 29th, 20106:19 pm
There’s the abductor muscle and the adductor muscle. I believe (I could be wrong) that the adductor muscle allows the legs to spread and the abductor allows them to shut. Could be the opposite though
I think a abductor muscle is what abducted our offense.
In that case, Lindsay Lohan has some pretty good adductors
April 29th, 20106:20 pm
Don’t forget. Next Year is the 20th ann. of the worst to foist year. We might be replicating it.
In all seriousness though, there is no way this keeps up. This team is BETTER than this.
April 29th, 20106:21 pm
Liberty Media Group:
“mediocre product”? since when is a 0-9 streak with aging has beens up to the standard of mediocre. I might buy tickets or watch the games if the Braves were mediocre, but we aren’t there yet. Mediocre would be a sigh of relief right now.
Oh and AIG called and said you should learn how they do things over there… they got a bailout, and you have the Braves. Guess which one I would take now…
who abducted our leadoff man?
Stat of the Day.
K Johnson and A LaRoche from the 1 and 5 holes:
7 for 9, two HR, 8 RBI.
April 29th, 20106:22 pm
Liberty, I believe we all have spread our legs this season.
the cardinals draw almost 40,000 on a thursday afternoon, and some wonder how they can afford superstars like they do! I went to 2 of the games this series and was shocked at how many fans were there.
Oh and AIG called and said you should learn how they do things over there… they got a bailout, and you have the Braves. Guess which one I would take now…
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