Braves shut out again; losing skid’s at eight

St. Louis — When the skidding Braves held voluntary early batting practice Wednesday at 2:30 p.m. at Busch Stadium, the entire team showed up.

They hit then and hit again during regular batting practice a few hours later, but they didn’t hit when it counted against the St. Louis Cardinals. Again.

Kenshin Kawakami didn’t make it out of the fifth inning and the lineup stayed punchless during a 6-0 Braves loss, the eighth consecutive defeat for a team most pundits expected to compete for the National League East title.

Maybe they still will; it’s a long season. But right now those projections seem way off-base for the reeling Braves, who are 8-13 in a division where no other team has a losing record.

They trailed 2-0 after the first inning and got their lone extra-base hit in the eighth inning.

“It’s just another downer,” third baseman Chipper Jones said. “You come out and you have high hopes every time you walk out on the field, and then bam, before you can blink, 2-nothing. You know, it’s just like, here we go again, and you just can’t stop it from snowballing downhill.”

He managed to smile and added, “But I promise you we will win another game this year, and when we do hopefully we’ll stop the bleeding.”

Forget the tourniquet, the Braves need a defibrilator to resuscitate an offense that’s produced 13 runs in an eight-game skid, the longest losing streak for the Braves since a 10-gamer in June 2006.

They’ve been shut out three times in the eight games and failed to hit a home run in 10 of their past 11 games, including no long balls during the losing streak.

The Braves have never had a worse start under manager Bobby Cox, who said Wednesday afternoon, “It’s hard to say we’re playing real good baseball, but we are.”

They did not play good baseball Wednesday night, not by any definition. The Braves made two errors in the first inning to raise their total to 20 in 21 games, compared to 12 errors for the Cardinals.

“Don’t forget the miscommunication to lead off the game,” Jones said. “That’s what happens when you’re in a losing streak.”

He was referring to Skip Schumaker’s first-inning leadoff single, a bloop to left-center that Jones assumed fell in for a hit because left fielder Matt Diaz and center fielder Nate McLouth got wires crossed.

“No, you’re not supposed to call it if you’re going to have to dive,” Diaz said, “and both of us would’ve had to dive. I think we both made the smart play there, keeping it to a single rather than giving up an extra-base hit to start the game.”

Ryan Ludwick followed with a hard hit ball off shortstop Yunel Escobar that was ruled an error, and Albert Pujols hit an RBI single to center that McLouth failed to field cleanly for another error.

The second run scored on a wild pitch by Kawakami (0-4), who was charged with five runs (four earned), five hits and our walks (three intentional). He had another wild pitch with the bases loaded in the third to make it 3-0.

St. Louis tacked on three runs in the fifth, when Kawakami and rookie reliever Jonny Venters each allowed a double and an intentional walk and Venters also gave up a  two-run hit down the first-base line.

Venters surrendered two hits and four walks in 1-2/3 innings, including David Freese’s two-run single punched down the first-base line with two out in the fifth, after a Yadier Molina intentional walk loaded the bases.

“He got the ground ball; it wasn’t hit good,” Cox said. “We were just trying to keep it to three runs. We’re not scoring a lot, and the spread gets to four, you’ve got to get five to win. Right now we’re not going to score five in two innings.”

Right now they’re lucky if they score five in two games. Oh, it’s bad.

Rookie Jason Heyward has four of their meager 12 home runs, and he was on the bench Wednesday for the first time. So was catcher Brian McCann, as Cox sought to counter Cardinals lefty Jaime Garcia with right-handed hitters.

The Braves started the day as the worst-hitting team in the NL, and produced more of same in losing for the sixth time on a seven-game trip that ends Thursday.

They will send winless Jair Jurrjens to the mound for the series finale against Adam Wainwright, who’s 4-0 with a 1.50 ERA against the team that developed him before trading him to St. Louis.

They Braves mustered four singles in seven innings against Garcia, not surprising considering they came in batting .216 against lefties and Garcia (2-1) came in with a 1.42 ERA.

He trimmed that to 0.84, allowing four hits and one walk with five strikeouts.

“He’s deceptive in that he kind of short-arms the ball, and he hides the ball very well,” said Diaz, who went 1-for-4 with three strikeouts, two against Garcia. “His ball is sinking and cutting, and you really don’t pick it up till late. As the game went on you could see it a little better, but then he started to mix in his breaking stuff.”

The Braves didn’t have an extra-base hit until Yunel Escobar’s eighth-inning double. Martin Prado followed with a single before Jones flied out and Troy Glaus struck out to end that threat.

120 comments Add your comment

Money

April 29th, 2010
12:42 am

Not again…something is seriously wrong with this team…

count_schemula

April 29th, 2010
12:51 am

I told a friend if they did not win tonight, that I was switching to the Washington Nationals. Is that really my fate?

JRW7

April 29th, 2010
12:51 am

Headlines on ESPN, Braves worst hitting team in MLB. No wonder, BRAVES do not have a real MLB hitting coach. Time to fire TP!!!!!!!!

Hawks SUck

April 29th, 2010
12:52 am

Is Bobby Cox serious saying “we’re playing real good baseball.” God I can’t wait till his ass is out of the dugout. What a moronic thing to say during an 8 game losing streak. What part of a 6-0 loss makes you think we’re playing good baseball you idiot.

tristan

April 29th, 2010
12:54 am

I will say it again. The magic 8 ball is what TP uses to give advice to hitters. The problem is that the magic 8 ball only answers yes or no questions which is why we are hitting this bad. TP has got to stop using the magic 8 ball and start calling Cleo the psychic.

Hawks SUck

April 29th, 2010
12:54 am

, “It’s hard to say we’re playing real good baseball, but we are.”-Bobby Cox

I’ts like he’s managing his 5 year old grandson’s team during an 8 game losing streak. It’s time for the braves to undergo a massive organizational overhaul. Unfortunately, until Schuerholz dies or retires it’s not going to happen.

Delmar

April 29th, 2010
1:00 am

The current state of the Braves clubhouse…

Pete: Hold on… Wait a minute… Who elected you leader of this outfit?! Since we been followin’ your lead we got nothin’ but trouble. I’ve gotten this close to bein’ strung up; and consumed in a fire; whipped no end; and sun stroked, and soggy’d.
Delmar: Turned into a frog.
Everett: He wasn’t turned into no frog.
Delmar: Almost loved up though.
Everett: So you’re against me now too? Is that how it is boys? The whole world and God almighty, now you. Guess I deserve it. Boys, I know that I made some tactical mistakes, but if you just stick with me, I got a plan, believe me boys we can fix this thing.

Delmar

April 29th, 2010
1:01 am

gobravos

April 29th, 2010
1:01 am

Hah, I see your up working as late as I am. I am no able to watch games because where I live, but I keep track of the games online. I would say its Cox’s fault for putting a lineup together with 5 guys hitting at or under .200, but who else can he put out there. Oh, yeah there’s that Infante guy who was pretty good last year until he got hurt. I am well aware he has struggled this year when given a chance to start; however, to be fair, those starts are few and far between. You can’t play a guy once a week and expect him to light it up for ya. If he plays everyday in some capacity, whether it be in the infield or outfield, I am confident he can get it going and be a spark for this offense like Prado was last year. He may be a nice fit on top of the order. I am also convinced he could play LF as well as the guys we’ve been putting out there.

gobravos

April 29th, 2010
1:04 am

Yeah, if this is Cox’s idea of good baseball it tells you a lot about where he is mentally: “la-la land”. I think when Tony Kornheiser called Cox insane on PTI earlier this week, in regard to the Pujols comment, he was really spot-on about Cox in general.

J-Hey

April 29th, 2010
1:06 am

“Right now we’re not going to score five in two innings.”

I think Bobby meant to say “right now we’re not even going to score 5 runs in 9 innings”

Braves 8 losses, 13 runs.
Cardinals 3 wins, 15 runs.

Ow! My Oblique!

April 29th, 2010
1:06 am

Fan friggin tastic. When does football season start? The fact that Wren also seems indifferent to the team’s struggles would be the first reason why I would fire him and then fire Terry Pendleton. The team isn’t hitting. Who’s fault is it? Fire his sorry ass and hire a competent coach. It will never happen and this team will struggle not to lose 100 games.

rc35

April 29th, 2010
1:11 am

Are the Braves actually making contact during batting practice? I’ve been a Braves’ fan since they came South (OK, I was a kid then) and endured the long losing streaks of the seventies and the erratic frustrations of the eighties. Right now, I’m missing Frank Tepedino and Derrell Chaney. Actually, we’re on par with poor Leo Foster, an infielder who was called up and hit into two double plays and a triple play in his first MLB game. He’d fit right in with this bunch!

Bravesfan2010

April 29th, 2010
1:13 am

The only team in baseball with a worse record than the Braves are the O’s.

gobravos

April 29th, 2010
1:15 am

Didn’t Wren used to run the O’s….

Tdawg

April 29th, 2010
1:19 am

I heard a rumor that the braves were shut out again?

Cox says “Its hard to say we’re playing real good baseball, but we are.” I’m still laughing at that one. Funniest darn thing i’ve heard in my life. Bobby I think that you may have missed out on your true calling. You should have been a comedian. I think that it is time some one took Bobby out to some field and put him out of his misery. You know like how they do with old washed up horses. He may want to take Chipper and Troy with him.

ippississiM

April 29th, 2010
1:39 am

I agree with DOB’s typo – at least two of Diaz’s strikeouts were against Diaz. The whole order seems to be their own worst enemy at the plate these days.

alaaandru

April 29th, 2010
2:25 am

It is such a gentlemanly trait to compliment your grandmother’s baking, your wife’s (if married) hairdo, your neighbor’s lawn, etc. But, this nice mannerism can become superficial if an oatmeal cookies is black…the wife gets a mohawk, or that lawn has weeds…it is best to come clean–most of the time anyway. So I ponder this, when is Bobby going to start addressing reality when it comes to characterizing his team’s play…and a good place to commence is Escobar–come on Bobby, his play is nothing short of wacky. Next, Chipper–regression inc. and, finally, Melky–milktoast on a paper napkin. There’s a start…tell the truth and have a little laugh…and one more thing–it is so comforting to hear that Mr. Jones is promising us at least one more win before the season ends. Thank you Chipper!!!

Ow! My Oblique!

April 29th, 2010
3:05 am

By the way, I think it was classy of Tony LaRussa and the Cardinals to have a small pre-game ceremony to honor Bobby Cox. What a classy thing for them to do and just shows why people think of the Cardinals as one of the classiest organizations in all of professional sports.

Liberty Media McGuirk

April 29th, 2010
4:42 am

Malone needs to sell the team ASAP and McJerk needs to resign immediately. Lieing Jerks…

Fortune Magazine: may 8, 2008
“Still, Malone knows that maximizing his return ultimately depends on how the Braves do on the diamond. Shortly after he bought the team it acquired a big-hitting first baseman, Mark Teixeira, who makes $12 million a year, and this off-season it won back Glavine, who earns $8 million. “Off-season moves like that mean a lot to people who have been here,” says third baseman Chipper Jones, who has been with the Braves since 1990. Malone says he has set no limit on the payroll: “We won’t be cheap. We’d like to win. If Terry calls up and says they need something, they’ll get it.”

GovClintonTyree

April 29th, 2010
6:13 am

This is a hard team to watch.

Hard team to love, hard team to watch.

tom varacalli

April 29th, 2010
6:44 am

Escobar is a head case, Jones and Glaus long past prime, Mclouth not a pressure player, Melky needs the Yankees lineup, Heyward over-hyped, too much pressure on McCann and retire Cox and TP EARLY. Kawakami has been hit by players that never saw him pitch before. Lowe pitched one good game, opening nite 2009. I’m actually enjoying the Met’s brand of ball.

VegasJay

April 29th, 2010
7:05 am

1. Play Infante – put him in the lineup somewhere, preferably left. Or 1st as a stopegap.
2. Diaz in center – or 1st as a stopegap
3. Trade Mclouth & MilkyMelky & Glaus- or just relese them – they really are all just awful.
4. Slap Frank Wren – HARD – then let him go to.
5. Get a 1st baseman who can hit and a 4th outfielder who can play center as well as the corners.
6. Keep Escobar at the top of the lineup – he’s the best option we’ve got until Diaz stops doing his little plate dance and just starts to drive the ball to all fields and not go for the gold every freakin plate appearance.
6. WIN A GAME SOMEHOW!
7. Get rid of TP and quick.
8. Bobby – throw a tantrum – throw some chairs – bust up a water cooler with a bat – go tee off an an umpire Pinella style – just lose what’s left of your mind and see if it helps, Can’t hurt.
9. Pray Fredi G gets fired tomorow and give Bobby a headstart on that front office job.
10. WIN A GAME SOMEHOW!

Thanks and have great day! And pray for a rainout today – it is not going to be pretty against Wainwright. Can you say “another NO NO” perhaps! Damn good chance of it. There is clubhouse discord and it’s about to boil over if something doesn’t change quickly. It’s hard to win a pennant in the first 6 weeks of a season, but you can sure as hell lose one.

VegasJay

April 29th, 2010
7:07 am

Oh yeah, get D Lowe on that same bus with mikly/nate/glaus and TP.

Marc in FL

April 29th, 2010
7:11 am

This is getting rather depressing. I haven’t given up being a fan or even on this season for that matter, but it’s hard to be passionate right now when your team is playing such bad ball. The offense is obviously bad, but the defense is bad as well, the base running is busch league, and our pitchers have done well, but can’t make it past the 5th inning.

I’ll tune back in in a month or so to see what (if anything) has changed.

Gary O

April 29th, 2010
7:35 am

The Braves have never had a worse start under manager Bobby Cox, who said Wednesday afternoon, “It’s hard to say we’re playing real good baseball, but we are.”

What game is Bobby Cox watching? In our case, the numbers dont lie.

ifr4

April 29th, 2010
7:48 am

Are we missing LaRoche and Johnson yet? Wren should’ve made a run at signing LaRoche, even with Freeman on the way. And Kelly could’ve moved to OF. Instead, we have have a mess with Glaus and Melky, et al. Any chance we go the direction the Mets went, cut bait with Glaus and bring up Freeman?

jerry

April 29th, 2010
8:00 am

Another worry. Philly has only played 6 home games this month.
When this season is over it will be the 44th time in 45 years that they have failed to win the WS.

Geoff

April 29th, 2010
8:00 am

… or maybe they simply really are not that good… maybe the Nate McClouths of the world are only good on really really bad clubs like the Pirates… maybe Derek Lowe is only really good when he is on a really good team [BoSox and Dodgers]… and yes…. I certainly am missing Kelly Johnson b/c he could’ve certainly played the OF just as good as any other LF we got

BravesEliminated

April 29th, 2010
8:04 am

Dudes – I was in here late last April with the bad news and am here again. As I said in a blog here a week or so ago. . . you can’t win the division by the end of April but you can be all-but-eliminated by the end of April. And, sadly, the Braves are. So save you time (blogging) and money (going to games). Not happening this year.

gobravos

April 29th, 2010
8:05 am

I live in Tampa. Yeah people talk about how good the Rays are now. Its because they stopped letting guys they developed leave- Crawford will be the first in a while to leave after this season. It would be awesome to still have all those guys the Braves have let leave after all these years, but I think the sad truth is that a lot of those guys needed a fresh start away from this organization. Something is not right in Atlanta.

usnavyvolfaninva

April 29th, 2010
8:07 am

I still can’t help but think there is actually something going on that we’re going to find out about soon. The WHOLE LINEUP sucking at the same time is more than pure concidence.

usnavyvolfaninva

April 29th, 2010
8:14 am

jerry,
I’m confused….. you talkin’ about the Braves or Phils? If it’s the Phils, they won in ‘80 and ‘08. If it’s the Braves, it will actually be the 52nd time in 53 years they fail to win >1 WS.

Buffalo Guy

April 29th, 2010
8:16 am

This team is disorganized, the morale is gone. Watch them in the dougout. Nobody wants to even talk to the guy next to him. There is NO leadership from the top down. Chipper is the chief apologist. He needs to retire and go hunting. These are the games that you lose in April that you can’t win in September.

TPic

April 29th, 2010
8:43 am

“It’s hard to say we’re playing real good baseball, but we are.”

That’s hilarious. And frightening. That a “manager” could be so out of touch with the game is beyond ridiculous. The inferenece in that asinine quote is that the team could be winning some of the latest games. The mark of a good coach/manager is not what he does with good teams, but how he can get the most out of bad ones. This team loses not because it sucks (it does), but because there is no accountability. Remember that old saying, ‘It’s not whether you win or lose, but how you play the game’? When you have a subpar roster, you can’t also survive with atrocious fundamentals, no focus or drive and an inept manager who’s best attribute is devising nicknames for his players.

qu1t

April 29th, 2010
8:46 am

Have we thrown anyone out at the plate this year? Have we thrown anyone out stealing a base this year? And we’re “Playing Good Baseball”???

carlchamblee

April 29th, 2010
8:46 am

Thanks Chipper for pointing out the mistakes other players on the team are making. Good thing you are playing stellar defense and can easily handle pop flies and are traring the cover off the ball or this team would really be in trouble…

Brava

April 29th, 2010
9:03 am

Glaus and Melky, Glaus and Melky, suck, suck, suck, blah,blah, blah. Really? If you’ve been watching, they’ve actually played better than most of the rest of the team.

bob lazar

April 29th, 2010
9:15 am

worst braves team in 20 plus years!!!

Also we were lied to braves president said payroll wasnt slashed, by my count the 40 man roster is much lower than last years

DenizenofDay 06182007

April 29th, 2010
9:23 am

Does anyone here think that this skid started because the baseball gods are mad at the Braves for their Walkoff celebration against Philly? Maybe it is right and pure to celebrate such a wonderful comeback in front of your ememy instead of using it as an opportunity to play a joke on your teammate.

I recall a stretch mid-last season where the Braves couldn’t find home-plate. Then, for some reason, they figured it out and reeled off that miraculous stretch to put them back in the playoff hunt before they ended the season losing 6 straight. Point is, the season ain’t over and they are capable of putting a run together. But, they need to make things right with the baseball gods soon before this thing gets away from them.

tristan

April 29th, 2010
9:34 am

Yeah Denizeno, you got it right. You sit at home with the candles and the incense and pray to Moomba the baseball god for the Braves to win. Tp will get his magic 8 ball out and ask it more questions. Bobby will get his coin out and keep flipping it to determine who will hit today.

Hindsights 20/20

April 29th, 2010
9:37 am

Gotta laugh at all the love for Kelly Johnson now. “Should of kept him and kept him in the outfield” Or you kidding me???? Last year he was the butt of everyones jokes but now that he is having a solid year elsewhere, we loved him all along. Typical fair weathered Braves fans. The point is, we have to deal with what we have. If the Braves are going to win, its going to have to be with what we got and hope the players turn it around. If thats not good enough for some of you “fans”, then jump off the bandwagon and get on another.

Unknown Hinson

April 29th, 2010
9:38 am

Oh boy, now we have Chipper pointing fingers at teamates and them disagreeing. This is starting to look bad.

Lost Bravos

April 29th, 2010
9:38 am

I feel like a kid at Christmas when the season starts and the Braves are all of my new toys…..and then all of the toys are broken before I get a chance to play with them for more than an hour or so….they don’t last until the next Christmas….so what am I supposed to do until next Christmas with this bunch?

Don

April 29th, 2010
9:41 am

What kind of dumb a– would tell a 20 year old rookie that he is taking far too many pitches – and take a chance on ruining his basically great approach to hitting – being patient, being selective, working the count, making the pitcher throw some pitches? Only Bobby Cox whose failure to teach/emphasize/demand these things has ruined the development of most of the young hitters who have come up and has limited the production of even the veteran hitters.

Don

April 29th, 2010
9:41 am

In 21 games, the Braves have scored more than 4 runs in only 5 games.

Don

April 29th, 2010
9:42 am

If you think things are bad now — What if we had an average pitching staff instead of a good pitching staff – and still had Bobby Cox as manager?

GTSteve

April 29th, 2010
9:53 am

Why would anybody spend their hard earned money to go see this team

gobravos

April 29th, 2010
9:54 am

I am happy for Kelly Johnson Hindsight. The guy’s off to a great year. I don’t know if I would bet on him keeping it up due to his knack for streaky play, but the bottom line is the guy’s is only 28 and is capable of a productive ML career. You can’t blame people for being a little dumb-founded about what KJ is doing now. I mean we all saw him have games where we were like this guy can really play. Then we saw him have games where he played absolutely awful. Who knows with that guy? But you gotta give the props for what he’s doing now. He destroying everyone on our team in terms of offensive productivity. On the other hand, I have never seen McLouth play a game in a Braves uni and said, “Wow Nate’s really good.” I mean, does the guy even have 15 hits since Spring Training started? Also, people should stop with the former All Star crap with that guy too. He was an All Star because he played for an awful team that hasn’t had a winning season since we beat them in the ‘92 NLCS.

Matt

April 29th, 2010
9:55 am

Love Bobby, Love Chipper, But it’s time to go. Every good thing must end, It’s really hard being a Braves fan my entire life watching my childhood heros going out the way they have with the Braves. Maddux, Glavine, Smoltzie, now Bobby & Chipper The Braves should have just blown it up completely when they showed Smoltz the door. I really hope Freddie Gonzalez is fired by the Marlins and the Braves hire him. Bobby’s comment that they are playing good baseball are ridiculous

Don

April 29th, 2010
9:57 am

On most teams, young hitters who come up and other players who are traded for continue to improve after they join the team. Isn’t it strange that just the opposite is true (for the most part) when players join the Braves? You don’t think that it could have anything to do with Cox/Pendleton failing to teach/emphasize/demand that hitters be selective, be patient, work the count, make the pitcher throw some pitches.

Don

April 29th, 2010
9:59 am

You have to understand – that just because a player leaves the Braves and then has significant success as a hitter does not mean that he would have been good if he had stayed with the Braves under Cox and Pendleton.

Lost Bravos

April 29th, 2010
10:04 am

My most memorable Kelly Johnson moment…..dropping a pop fly at home against the Phillies early in the 2008 season…..Braves were never in it after that

gobravos

April 29th, 2010
10:06 am

Yeah I know Don. In my earlier posts I stated that the reason I thought KJ was having a good year was probably because of the change of scenery. I would not be shocked to see him and Frenchy hit around .280 with 20+ hrs and 80+ RBIs, which is probably average production for guys with their level of talent. I don’t care what people say on this blog. Those guys are talented baseball players that are still very young. I haven’t seen KJ and Frenchy look as happy as they do now around their new teams. I mean both guys are on cloud 9 right now and loving it. I wonder what has changed for them?…..

gobravos

April 29th, 2010
10:08 am

Yeah, Lost Bravos, your right. One dropped pop fly is what killed a season for a team. Give me a break.

Tomy Fournier

April 29th, 2010
10:08 am

IS THAT A BASEBALL TEAM????COME-ON..IT IS A BUNCH OF SH?????????AND MY ? IS…WHEN THE MORON COX AND THE JOKER C.JONES GONNNNNNNNNNNNE????IF THIS NOT HAPPEN…NO WIN AND NOT NOTHING…JUST JOKE FROM A BUNCH OF “CLOWN”…NEVER BASEBALL PLAYERS…NEVER “HAPPEN”!!!!!

benchwarmer

April 29th, 2010
10:15 am

Hell, Chipper has never convinced me that he is a leader of even minor ability. Clubhouse problems? They have been around for some years now. When the manager finally steps down it would be nice to have someone come in who IS the leader of this club and capable of setting a tone of discipline that the whole team can follow. Bobby seems all over the place. He has lost it. What I’m seeing is a bad team. It still has many capable parts, but who is going to form them into a whole that can achieve?

Nervous Breakdown

April 29th, 2010
10:21 am

Best example that TP needs to go: Jeff Francouer. I loved him as a player but something is wrong when Kelly Johnson and Frenchie are in the top 10 in batting the year after they left the Braves.

I can’t wait for Cox to finally get out of here too. He’s too busy giving crappy middle relievers their innings to try to actually win games. Venters needs a little more Gwinnett seasoning before he’s ready and KK needs to be a middle reliever, 0-4 without a chance is ridiculous when we’ve got Medlen riding pine.

benchwarmer

April 29th, 2010
10:28 am

Bobby’s starting to remind me of Luman Harris. For those who remember this is not a good comparison.

long time Braves fan

April 29th, 2010
10:31 am

“It’s hard to say we’re playing real good baseball, but we are.” Bobby has a long time good record there in the 90’s and early 2000’s but a remark like that proves he has LOST IT. I will continue to watch just 2 see how bad it will get. PLEASE Wren make a trade, DO something

benchwarmer

April 29th, 2010
10:37 am

Speaking of Frenchy, some have been ya know. Part of the base running fiasco by Yunel the other day was Frenchy coming up with the ball and making a strong throw from the outfield. Other than Heyward I have not seen that from our outfield in a while. Leadership 101 for our man Chipper, when someone wants to know when the losing streak and poor play will be over the answer is RIGHT NOW, we win the next one. It is hard for me to understand such an arrogant bunch of crap from a guy who has been responsible for so many poor plays of late.

Jonathan Simeone

April 29th, 2010
10:39 am

The problem with this team is that the manager comes out and says that they are playing well. Has he been watching the same team? All kinds of errors, base running mistakes, wild pitches, catchers that can’t block pitches or throw and a lineup that has more bad at bats than hard hit balls. Under anyone’s reasonable deffinition of “playing well” how can it be said that this team is playing well? Bobby has won a ton of games, but his unwillingness to hold veteran players accountable is what is really hurting this team right now. Losing games is one thing. Losing games and playing terrible baseball is quite another.

benchwarmer

April 29th, 2010
10:44 am

Well it is kind of hard to play the hot hand when there are so few hot hands available. Not that BC has ever been noted for that. Fundementals are out the door too. Run the bases, work a count make contact and move up a runner, know what possiblities exsit when the ball is hit to you ie what do I do now? Such things can easily be taught. Why are they not happening with this team?

Jonathan Simeone

April 29th, 2010
10:46 am

I still cannot believe Cox believes this team is playing well. A stupid comment like that really makes me wonder why I care so much about a team whose leader seems as if he is living in an alternate world.

benchwarmer

April 29th, 2010
10:47 am

Leadership 101 part two for our man chipper, just say, my teammates are capable and professional and WE will be a winning team!

MissingRodGilbreath

April 29th, 2010
11:01 am

Kelly Johnson tearing it up. Francouer on a tear. Laroche solid defense and some pop at first base. Braves are free falling and 5 years past his usefulness Booby Cox criticizes his rookie phenom in the media……..Is there anybody in the Braves organization that gets it? Cox is a liability but we have to let him finish the year.(Would rather not, but no choice) So here we go: FIRE PENDLETON TODAY! Fire McDowell and bring Mazzonne back tomorrow. Sit down with Chipper (an employee of the organization), explain to him that because of what he and Cox have meant to this organization, they are going to be allowed to finish the year gracefully, have huge retirement celebrations, bring the city of Atlanta and Braves nation years of joy to come as they go into the Hall of Fame and forever live in a love affair with the Braves. BUT…Chipper…the next time you go down with a candy-$## injury, Prado takes over at third, and you will be backing up the new first baseman. Chipper will be a great pinch-hitter. Find whoever will be the next manager and bring him in as hitting coach this year. Please make sure that he has some spit and vinegar about him and that he can get along with latin players. Goodbye Pendleton; Goodbye Chino; Goodbye Roger; enjoy the rest of the ride Chip and Bobby; let’s start preparing for life after complacency…………………TODAY!!!!

Dorothy Davis

April 29th, 2010
11:21 am

Why do you suppose the players that leave Atlanta after “sucking” here, become all stars on their next team? (aka. Frenchy and Kelly Johnson) Could it be the coaching or hitting coach? You can not keep replacing players, only to find it was not them, but Bobby! Happy retirement.

Don

April 29th, 2010
11:21 am

Missing Rod, why do you think that Cox has to finish the year.
Just pay off his contract and send him on his way.
Granted, there is no chance of that happening.

Don

April 29th, 2010
11:27 am

What is all the talk about how great Cox was in the PAST.
The Braves are extremely fortunate and lucky that they won even the ONE World Series in FOURTEEN Post Season opportunities – with Cox managing.
We are extremely fortunate and lucky that it is not ZERO in FOURTEEN opportunities instead of the ONE.
REMEMBER, that it required Glavine to pitch a SHUTOUT in the final game for Cox to be able to salvage even the ONE in the FOURTEEN chances.
Cox rode one of the best pitching staffs in baseball history that overcame his management procedures and lack thereof to 14 Division wins over the long 162 game regular season schedule.

Don

April 29th, 2010
11:32 am

Dorothy, don’t you understand that it just considence that players keep leaving the Braves and getting better and keep coming to the Braves and getting worse. The Cox supporters and some of the Writers want you to understand that it could have nothing to do with the quality of the manager or the hitting coach.

Bradford

April 29th, 2010
11:37 am

Love my Braves and always will but the blame passing has got to stop. Man up, when a team wins the player of the game should say ‘it was a team effort”; or “my teamates played some great ball today”. When the crap hits the fan, the leader or manager should say, “I should have done better, I missed that play, that call”. Make apologies only for yourself not the team. Pass credit not blame. Man up. It starts there

Mr. Turnip-Green Jeans

April 29th, 2010
11:43 am

“It’s hard to say we’re playing real good baseball, but we are.”-Bobby Cox

WHEWWWW. Thank God!

Just goes to show that Bobby knows lots more about baseball than any of us.

WORLD SERIES BABY!! YEAH!!

GTSteve

April 29th, 2010
12:04 pm

I can’t watch anymore, too depressing

Bobcat

April 29th, 2010
12:05 pm

1. Get rid of TP and get a hitting coach that understands “how to”, work with hitters. Terry was a solid player, but he can’t teach hitting. Just because you were good at something and understand the mechanics doesn’t mean you can teach it. Take Charlie Lau for example. A terrible hitter, a great hitting instructor and his book on hitting is still the bible for MLB hitters.

2. Bobby plays by the same ‘ole book’ even when he doesn’t have the players to execute. Quit going with lefty v lefty and go with the ‘hot’ hand or bat.

3. My biggest concern for this spring was we brought Jason Heyward up too soon. He should be in Gwinnett learning the game. I feel very certain that Wren and Cox are about to destroy a career. He has to potential to be a genuine Superstar in MLB; however, bringing him up this soon and with all of the fanfare and hype, is grooming him for failure. His defensive play is very poor as compared to MLB standards. It’s poor for AA standards. His hitting is spotty at best. He needs to be seasoned at a lower level

4. Chipper spends more time on the DL than do the trainers. He’s gotta go. He’s good and productive when he hits for average, but Bobby wants the HR.

5. Melky should not be in the show at all. He’s gotta go.

6. Glaus is past his prime and can no longer handle the bat. He needs to go as well.

7. Hinske needs to be at first over Glaus.

Bobcat

April 29th, 2010
12:23 pm

Twenty errors in 21 games. Kelley Johnson with 8 HR’s this season and the Braves, as a team, have 12, and Cox says “It’s hard to say we’re playing real good baseball, but we are.” Let me manage, I can at least go 0 and 8 and then give a more acceptable quote.

GTSteve

April 29th, 2010
12:37 pm

Bobcat for manager!!

Sam I Am

April 29th, 2010
12:51 pm

5 times being shutout in April?? What’s the record for the most times a team has been shutout in a month?

Goonies 2 Dang It!

April 29th, 2010
12:52 pm

PLAYOFFS!!! PLAYOFFS!!!????

Kristin

April 29th, 2010
12:52 pm

Fire all of them and start over. A AAA minor league team could do better than this miserable showing.

Firearm

April 29th, 2010
12:55 pm

PLAYOFFS!!! PLAYOFFS!!!????

Lemme guess, you’re just hoping they can win a game, another game. ;)

Fletch

April 29th, 2010
12:57 pm

TP, you were a good Brave as a player, but it’s time for you to go. Can’t argue with his results (or lack of)

Srotie McBoogerballs

April 29th, 2010
1:04 pm

Best way to get out of last place.

1: Sell team to a better owner.
2: Fire the entire managing staff.
3: Trade off Lowe, Glaus, Jones etc for a great hitter. One who is young.

Bottom line: Start building a team for 2015.

Tami

April 29th, 2010
1:06 pm

Gloom & despair in Braves Country. Anybody remember WHHHHYYYYYY the boneheaded trade of Wainwright for Drew had to happen to begin with??! Too bad that the Braves can’t trade both JJ & Kawakami to get him back. Of course, the Cards aren’t that stupid to begin with — are they?

The common problem, to begin with, has got to be McLouth! He can’t hit, and apparently, he has completely forgotten how to field. Find somebody — ANYBODY — down on the Farm to replace him. I’m quite sure there’s got to be someone as far down the totem pole as Rome that has a fielder/hitter better than McLouth right now.

SC Smith

April 29th, 2010
1:07 pm

As I said before, we sucked in the 70’s & 80’s but at least we could score runs or A run. Maybe we should get Aaron, Gant, Justice, Jordan,Murphy, and any other former Brave, I know they cant run either anymore or prob. field well, but they can hit better than this bunch even at their age.

AlternateReality

April 29th, 2010
1:10 pm

If you followed these blogs last season, the 3 main villains among the players were Kelly Johnson, Jeff Francouer, and Greg Norton. Most bloggers couldn’t wait to get rod of them, and criticized Bobby Cox for sticking with them too long.

Now that 2 of the 3 are having success elsewhere, the same voices are either wishing we had those guys back (Norton excluded, of course), or blaming their lack of success here on Bobby.

Which is it?

Shonuff

April 29th, 2010
1:13 pm

Why would Frank Wren make deals to try to better this team? The Braves should simply try to trade Chipper and other high cost veteran players and try to mold a young team for the future. Adrian Gonzalez doesn’t instantly turn us into a contender. Has anyone else noticed how painfully slow our lineup is? No speed whatsoever. Hard to manufacture runs when we don’t have many players who could run under a 5.0 forty.

kent

April 29th, 2010
1:15 pm

The incompetence of AJC’s journalists matches the ineptness of Atlanta’s sports teams.

Falcon Josh

April 29th, 2010
1:20 pm

Have they put out the lineup with Glaus’s name on it today? Just want to know when I can start hitting myself!

Brock

April 29th, 2010
1:31 pm

Slump? I ain’t in no slump. I just ain’t hittin’.-Yogi Berra

The Lemmer

April 29th, 2010
1:33 pm

On a positive note: only place to go is up when your in the cellar, reminds me of the 1990 Bravos, we lost the big 100:( Reality check 101: Chipper is done/injured all the time, Escobar he no comprende dumb azz donkey, Glaus is a bust, McClouth left his game in Pittsburgh, Lowe is overpaid & not a front line starter, we have only 4 keepers: Hanson, JJ, McCann, & Heyward everyone else can hit the road!

JTH

April 29th, 2010
1:40 pm

“On a positive note: only place to go is up when your in the cellar,”

You know it’s over when that starts getting said :)

Al

April 29th, 2010
1:42 pm

They can’t hit. Period. I think Glaus was a reach and its blowing up in their face. If Hayward doesn’t hit, they lose.

They need to get this turned around soon or its going to be a longggg final goodbye to Bobby. :(

william

April 29th, 2010
1:43 pm

Look you fans, it is a team designe to give life long tenure for Bobby Cox who won one world serries. TP was a good hitter so he must be a good coach! Some say the team must start hitting. You can not hit if you take fast balls down the middle of the plate on 1st,2nd, or third strikes. The other night the Cardinal pitcher was throwing the ball in the dirt every pitch and the braves had a man on first. Bobby did not send him to second. Next they had a runner on base and the pitcher threw the ball away, the runner stood on base. It is ok, Bobby will die someday and so will TP. Then maybe the Braves can get some good coaching.

Innocent Bystander

April 29th, 2010
1:46 pm

Incredible how many DP’s we’ve grounded into thus far.

NY Frenchy

April 29th, 2010
1:48 pm

Whats really SCARY is that the Bravos plan to hire TP as the manager next year, bank on it. Then how happy will us Braves fans be???? At least that gives us a new hitting coach!!! LMAO Go Braves & take the Hawks with you, the Falcons are our only hope now Go Dirty Birds

Innocent Bystander

April 29th, 2010
1:51 pm

Colby’s brother is in the Braves farm system, correct? They never mention Cory Rasmus.

I Hate Liberty Media

April 29th, 2010
1:52 pm

There is absolutely no excuse why Troy Glaus is getting paid to play baseball anywhere. He is awful. I’m embarrassed that my favorite team refuses to put a better product on the baseball field. Baseball tickets aren’t cheap. I guess Liberty Media and Frank Wren expect fans to pay their hard-earned money to watch these broked1cks lose every night.

GTSteve

April 29th, 2010
1:54 pm

william

April 29th, 2010
1:54 pm

“Whats really SCARY is that the Bravos plan to hire TP as the manager next year, bank on it.”

What is this? An affirmative action promotion! Because he not performed at high school level much less professional. But you know winning is not the real purpose–its the price of the ticket.

Bobcat

April 29th, 2010
1:55 pm

AlternateReality,

I was a big supporter of both Kelly Johnson and Jeff Francouer; however, in the last two years I soured on them. Turns out they were the product of poor coaching. Both had potential of hitting well, but neither did. Kelly was playing out of position as well. You give them competent coaching and look what happens. Imagine what could happen to this gaggle of players if they had decent coaching. Maybe they would be a team.

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