4:31 pm April 28, 2010, by David O'Brien
April 28th, 201011:04 pm
actually Cox was praising him since he is really only about a third of the player AP is
DOB, I have a suggestion for tomorrow lyrics, courtesy of Sugarland
…”Now it is poor me, why me, oh me
Boring the same old worn out blah blah story
There is no good explanation for it at all
Ain’t no rhyme or reason
No complicated meaning
Ain’t no need to over think it
Let go laughing
Life don’t go quite like you planned it
We try so hard to understand
The fact is
Just a thought;)
Play The Youth!
unbelievable – Maybe so but isnt that something that could have been had between him and Heyward in private instead of in the press? Remember the kid is 20.
Late August lineup?
CF – Jordan Schaefer
3B – Martin Prado
RF – Jason Heyward
1B – Freddie Freeman
C – Brian McCann
SS – Yunel Escobar
2B – Omar Infante
LF – Gregor Blanco
April 28th, 201011:05 pm
DOB, I am looking forward to your assessment of the team after tonight’s loss.
Lou – no tienes que orinar?
Hate to say it but, it may be time to clean house after 2010 when Bobby retires. That would certainly include Pendelton, Sntiker, and Chipper.
This season is over unless Cox resigns.The team is so screwed up, I can’t see a tired old BC saying the same tired old things inspiring these walking zombies.
Well, another shutout but at least the Braves got a few hits. This is hardly entertaining baseball and the brass ought to be concerned. I for one have no plans to trek to Turner Field then pay to watch this brand of baseball. Someone wake me when there’s some semblance of consistent offense and if there are any games left in the season, I’ll saunter down to the Ted. I’m not holding my breath, so Frank Wren, you keep on looking while doing nothing to improve the offense – be it by finding a competent hitting coach who can effect positive change or finding a competent hitter or two. As for Bobby Cox, I wish you would have quit awhile back so you could have gone out on a better note. Such is life when you hang on for too long.
April 28th, 201011:06 pm
Thank soph…I’ll try. Although when you word it like that you make it sound like I have a drug problem
After watching Cox handle the bullpen and bench (Norton) last year I just think of him like he is my Grandpa telling war stories at Thanksgiving whenever I hear him interviewed.
its pretty hilarious how everyone here was so ready to ship KJ off. He just like Andruw wasnt the problem. The problem is the hitting coach and we have 9 (Diaz/Melky) of our regulars hitting under .245. Its not that contagious and we’ve seen it long enough
WRen has to be eating the Tums now. Any other team with this start after high hopes and a great spring would fire the manager to shake things up. Wren cannot fire Cox but pretty soon somebody is going to have to be a fall guy. I would love to see Ned Yost added to the staff – he evidently can get on people and tighten things up.
THe Braves look out of shape, poorly prepared, and basically like they are going through the motions.
Cox is a players manager but I am afraid that as he has aged that quality has magnified and has crossed the line over the past few years where the Braves are not sharp.
This team is way more talented than they are playing. They have no excuse for the lack of hitting, the errors, the mental errors, and the losses. Something has to change in their play and soon. How many players are having the worst season of their career hitting? How many starters are hitting below .200 each and every night? It has been 20 years since I have seen something like this in Atlanta and the amount of talent on this team far, far exceeds the Braves of the late ’80s.
Maybe we can bat Heyward lead off tomorrow.
My God, 8 straight…
This season is over unless Cox resigns Bobby Cox
Those are some strong words from Bobby Cox
April 28th, 201011:07 pm
I haven’t bashed Bobby this year . . . , because why? What has changed?
I still say he should’ve retired after 2004. It just felt like it was evident that the Braves were on a decline, and he’d shot all his bullets.
I’ll saunter down to the Ted – quickwitt
bring in Ned Yost with Mike Maddux as pitching coach
April 28th, 201011:08 pm
I am slightly afraid to ask…What happened tonight? Missed the game completely. Anyone willing to give a summary without vitriol?
I think it’s bedtime for me too. I can’t take much cuckoo today. G’night all.
April 28th, 201011:09 pm
People are strange. Lou Vales
Example A _ Lou Vales
I think Lou is saying Bobby is fat empty headed and then there is something about eating someones mother. potty mouth
JC from DR
6-0? But didn’t Kelly Johnson hit a HR? … Oh, wait..
April 28th, 201011:10 pm
Ned Yost was fired for a reason – he’s not a good coach either. This team needs good players and the coaches wont be an issue. Tony La Rusa doesnt have to manage that much when Albert, Holliday, and Ludwick are hitting balls 25-30 rows deep, same with Charlie Manuel
Ned Yost… NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
The Ghost of Greg Norton
Cox just doesn’t have the fire the Braves need.
April 28th, 201011:11 pm
hasta manana fanaticos de los bravos
Mike Maddux? – I see no problem with the pitching coach we have? The Braves starters era is under 3.00. McDowell is the only thing I like on this staff.
I’m going to go chug an old bottle of wine. I’ll have to check DOB’s response tomorrow.
April 28th, 201011:12 pm
Did the Braves play tonight?
I’m not sure which team is more pathetic, the Hawks or Braves ?
Those of you wanting to play the youth: there isn’t any. With the exception of Freeman there really isn’t any position players anywhere near ready. Hicks has a great glove, but can’t hit his way out of a wet paper bag.
The farm is flat loaded with arms, but most all of the position players with a lot of upside are in the low minors. Hopefully Freeman can play well enough to be here next season. Sooner or later the Braves might be swapping some of those young power arms for some position players or go the free agency route to fill the needs at 3B & at least 1 outfield spot, maybe two.
It wasn’t long ago it seemed the Braves could turn out position players from the farm by the dozen, but rarely developed any strong pitching prospects, but it’s the other way around now with the exception of Heyward/Freeman. Also the young power arms are at the lower levels so I doubt any of them will be ready for several seasons, but you have to think at least 1 maybe 2 will make an impact in the majors some day.
I am slightly afraid to ask…What happened tonight? Missed the game completely. Anyone willing to give a summary without vitriol? – Moe Berg
sure, Ill give it a shot. Two runs scored on wild pitches, two balls were hit past Chipper at third, two balls were hit past Glaus at 1st. All lead to runs and we only had one xbh and a couple of singles mixed in. Pretty easy to describe
Moe, they got beat…again
April 28th, 201011:13 pm
I agree… don’t really see any issues with the current pitching coach.
The Mets are alone in First plate and the Braves Last… Ironic isn’t it?
April 28th, 201011:14 pm
If we had a owner Cox TP ANd Roger would be gone.Time to trade guys on are 25 man roster for players. This team is bad with one of are worst drafts last year. we dont have about 3 or 4 players at triple A. Bring on Ned Yost.
unbelievable and nolie, Thank you both. I am impressed with your restraint. How many in a row is this now?
April 28th, 201011:15 pm
Good work unbelievable. I could not have described it without a few swear words I am afraid.
NO MORE BOBBY
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!
Enough of this!!!
The Braves have been shutout 5 times in 21 games. After all the talk about the Braves pitching, they have a grand total of zero, zero, I say, shutouts.
No on in this lineup scares the opposing pitchers. It’s time now for each of the players to look in the mirror. Cox and Pendleton can’t do it for you!
April 28th, 201011:16 pm
8 in a row Moe. We are halfway (almost) to our record 17 in a row in 1977.
Everyone freaking out and I called this end of last season when they announced he was coming back.
April 28th, 201011:17 pm
Some of us NO MORE BOBBY, have been saying this since 1991.
April 28th, 201011:18 pm
You just have to fire Pendleton, don’t you?
April 28th, 201011:19 pm
I actually liked the guy up until 1999. Been ready for change since the Yankees swept us that series.
You just have to fire Pendleton, don’t you? – Dave
No, you fire Snitker and move TP to third. Then find a hitting coach.
”Cox thinks Wainwright’s dynamite”… Funny statement from the old donkey… against the Braves, who isnt?
braves70…1977. My first year in Atlanta. I was in first grade. Probably, was another year before I made it to a game, so I did not see that slide, but went to very many losses in the 70s and 80s.
What has happened? They were so impressive in spring training? Everyone was so hopeful. I am not writing them off. They lost six in a row to finish up last season after having the best record for the second half of the season. Still, it is getting worrisome.
April 28th, 201011:21 pm
The Braves are producing position players pretty regularly. You forget that they have traded a fair amount away including Elvis Andrus and Tyler Flowers. Flowers has 16 RBI and a .919 OPS in Triple A. Could he have played first base in Atlanta?
Moe, so you’re saying the Braves are 8-19 going back to the last 6 games of last year ? That’s horrible !!!
When Bobby is making quotes like he made this afternoon, “It’s hard to say we’re playing real good baseball, but we are,” it’s difficult to take him seriously. If this “real good baseball,” I’ve been missing something over the years.
that’s the way the ball bounces Moe
What has happened? They were so impressive in spring training? – Moe Berg
no more ST fastballs is what has happened
April 28th, 201011:22 pm
Roberto Cox le hace falta en su cabeza coma mi suegra y muy gordo tambien. — Lou Vales
translation: Robert Cox is missing in your head eat my mother and very fat too.
It’s good to see that Lou makes more sense in spanish than he does in english.
April 28th, 201011:23 pm
Bravesfan2010–Yes, but going back to the All Star break last year, they still look good.
That was the first time I’ve laughed since the game started…thanks
that’s why talent evaluators pay a lot less attention to ST and Sept callup time. course Sept callup time seems to be fading away due to costs
April 28th, 201011:24 pm
I’m not referring to them as the Braves until they win again. Until then, they’re the Catatoniots.
April 28th, 201011:25 pm
said it bfore spring training, this team does not have the power to compete. their .slg % is downright putrid. the .ba will improve but not the power.
there is no way this team can compete with the current combination of melky, diaz and nate in left and center.
good name PD
April 28th, 201011:26 pm
” Does Chipper’s .420 OBP indicate he’s having a good season?”
There’s a question Shaun would love, cuz it’s completely out of context.
Is Chipper having a good season? Not particularly. But – here’s context – given how the lineup around him has performed, how good could his numbers really be?
So, in context,I’d say that Chipper’s .420 OBP is an indication thaat he has not abandoned good fundamentals at the plate and that Chipper’s offense is not near the top of the list of what’s wrong with the Braves
best thing this team can hope for is that some of these guys wake up or Schafer and Freeman progress faster than normal. I think the latter is a big stretch
April 28th, 201011:28 pm
who cares about Chipper’s OBP? Im more concerned with his lack of range in the field, his errors, and his slg%’s. We need him and McCann to square up some of the pitches that they are missing and to vastly improve their defense
cabravesfan, as I’ve said to VJ more than once, I’m here for you. (unless I’m somewhere else)
April 28th, 201011:29 pm
When Wren said last season that the Braves were going to get a big right handed bat, I thought he meant it. Instead, he got rid of Vazquez, for nothing in return. I realize it was a corporate move to cut payroll, but just say that. Don’t try to sell us on how high the scouts were on a young pitcher in the Yankees A ball system.
If you look at the end of last season, it was obvious that this team needed some intestinal fortitute, starting at the top of management.
Who’s Cox going to attack in the post game tonight. Did Heyward take too many pitches again tonight? Don’t want to hear Cox talking about how the Cards’ pitchers just pitched a great game. Figure out what your team needs to do, and do it. Cox has seen too much baseball, to not know what is wrong with this team.
Just go ahead and say what all the fans know already. You just don’t have the offensive talent necessary to compete!
anyway Bonds trainer can come work with these guys for a couple of months?
April 28th, 201011:30 pm
1980 BRAVES V/S 2010 BRAVES
I say 1980 team rips current Braves team apart head to head.
April 28th, 201011:31 pm
You need to be here more to save me from the Crazy and the Stupid!
April 28th, 201011:32 pm
I know I’m not being completely fair, here, because Ross grounded into the double play. But…. Jason Heyward and Brian McCann didn’t get to hit against a RHP in favor of Matt Diaz, Melky Cabrera, and David Ross.
Perhaps Bobby was resigned to losing at that point, and I really don’t blame him if he was. The whole team was pretty much catatonic tonight. Hence, they’re the Catatoniots.
April 28th, 201011:33 pm
cabravesfan–I understand the sentiment. I have been very busy lately and thus not on the blog much. I check how the team is doing and can’t decide if i should stop by, or not. I know that it has to be scary.
April 28th, 201011:34 pm
Losing is keeping bloggers away DOB. Better speed up that demand for change article or you might be delivering the AJC to survive.
Is LaRussa right to bat the pitcher 8th in his lineup?
April 28th, 201011:35 pm
Is it possible for your team to lose so many in a row that you actually enjoy the streak? Thank you, may I have another.
Seriously, I remember when the Giants lost 8 straight in 1993 and that allowed the Braves to catch them…of course, that Giants team still won 103 games – streaks happen. The 1998 Braves started 6-6 and still won 108 games…just a little perspective.
However, this is one pathetic looking line-up right now…looks like road kill.
They say the same thing about Joe Mauer not saying Heywards Mauer but he’s good at what he does and I see no reason why Jason cannot be sucessful Cox just needs to be quit and stop making idiotic comments.
April 28th, 201011:36 pm
Stay Away! Stay away before the Evil sucks you in!!!
Roger Dorn’s stats for the year.
On Pace for 48 RBI and has a .912 fielding percentage. Thats 9 for 10 folks…… not good.
April 28th, 201011:37 pm
offensively these are the braves best bets,
petition the league for four outs an inning…
petition the league to move in the fences 30 feet when the braves are at bat…
when the braves draw a BB the batter immediately adavances to second….
might actually avoid a shutout.
April 28th, 201011:38 pm
Enter your comments here
April 28th, 201011:39 pm
“Dorn?” ” I didn’t think we had any high priced talent”.
“That is because Dorn is just high priced”
Whats truly sobering is to realize that save a pair of fortunate 9th innings, the losing streak would be at 11.
This team is way more talented than their play indicates.
You need to be here more to save me from the Crazy and the Stupid!
LAdy, as much as I’d love to help you out, I can’t take the disharmony of this blog during a game. Instead, I’ve found a much more peaceful place to go. Afghanistan.
the 8 game shame
April 28th, 201011:40 pm
Losing is keeping bloggers away DOB. NMB
BS, losing brings haters like you out in droves. The worse the Braves play, the more you guys post, the more page hits he gets. I figger he bribed some players to play this bad just so you and your ilk would bring the total up.
pretty sure that Tillman pitched a no hitter against Gwinnett tonight. Who was the last mlb team and their AAA affiliate to have a no hitter thrown against each of them in a two week span?
UGA Brave – You forgot one. Glaus gets a ground rule double if the outfielder catches the ball on the warning track.
braves 2010 slogan, “our numbers are deceiving.”
April 28th, 201011:41 pm
Terry pendleton is about to get the axe for sure. someone in that clubhouse has to be fired… he is the only logical choice. someone has to pay for this and something has to be done to shake things up… we cant make a trade this early as other clubs are standing pat. so, someone losing their job is the only step to take. terry has to go.
Tillman did pitch a no hitter. In typical Braves style “you just have to tip your cap to him”.
April 28th, 201011:42 pm
What’s up Braves fans? You guys lost – again? Wow!
Shut out -again? Double Wow!
Great game at the Verizon center tonight. Absolutely electric.
No More Bobby
I hope you are not going to the game this Weekend…?
I spent way too much money 2 weeks ago to see us get not hit
I’m not going to another weekend game til August…
So what positives are you guys finding in the Braves current state of play that we’re all so foolishly missing with our negative comments?
April 28th, 201011:43 pm
Jeez, what a mess, just unbelievable. I would hate to be the one to have to make the decision on Woodson and Joe Johnson. I think they may have peaked, but damn, I remember Leeman Bennett and the Falcons.
I hear it is quite lovely there this time of year…
April 28th, 201011:44 pm
jay dubu (April 28th, 2010 11:29 pm EST): When Wren said last season that the Braves were going to get a big right handed bat, I thought he meant it. Instead, he got rid of Vazquez, for nothing in return. I realize it was a corporate move to cut payroll, but just say that. Don’t try to sell us on how high the scouts were on a young pitcher in the Yankees A ball system.
Umm, I really don’t know what to say. Do you think Frank Wren is lying when he says something like “our baseball operations department–specifically the talent evaluation staff–is really high on Arodys Vizcaino”? He’s not, they are. Yeah, sure, the Braves traded Javier Vazquez to save money, but that’s only half the story. Arodys Vizcaino is an elite prospect, regardless of how frustrated you or I or anyone else is with the big league team’s offense.
No, no, no, no. It doesn’t work like that. You can’t just say “it was obvious that this team needed some intestinal fortitude”. You have to say, “this team needs some guts because of this, for this reason, as a solution to this problem, et cetera”. Why do they need intestinal fortitude?
…I’m going with they need to play better defense and to hit more homers, and it has nothing to do with guts or grit or passion or whatever amateur psych evaluation we want to offer…
Who’s Cox going to attack in the post game tonight. Did Heyward take too many pitches again tonight?
If you’ve been following the Braves for any significant period of time, you’d know Bobby very rarely attacks players publicly. I’m guessing he had a very good reason for saying what he said about Heyward. Or his intentions were good, at least.
Don’t want to hear Cox talking about how the Cards’ pitchers just pitched a great game. Figure out what your team needs to do, and do it. Cox has seen too much baseball, to not know what is wrong with this team.
They don’t play good defense or run the bases well or hit enough homers and they’ve got five regulars that are getting extraordinarily unlucky with respect to hits on balls in play. The last thing has nothing to do with Bobby (or anyone in the organization), and what, exactly, would you have Bobby do about the first three problems?
Just go ahead and say what all the fans know already. You just don’t have the offensive talent necessary to compete!
By mid season the Braves will have above-average hitters at at least 7 positions, I guarantee it. They will be fine.
UGA Brave try this one. Braves baseball – We are playing better than it seems. The other teams are just playing better than that.
I’m ready for the fans on 680 in the morning…This team playing flat like this on both sides of the ball is getting irritating
April 28th, 201011:45 pm
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