Mikey – you are making a logic error, called hasty generalization; plus you deduction is erroneous. They are not good because they take a lot balls. Because they are good, high quality ball players, they know the difference between a ball and a strike. A good pitcher gets you swinging at bad or borderline pitches. Only true power pitchers make a living off of just tossing the ball in the strike zone & daring you to hit it. If you do not have great hitters – most of the Yankees will hit at least 300 this year – then your team is more see good pitch, hit good pitch, or you must be lucky and guess right (a lot of scouting & video). Our older hitters, which now is really just Chipper, can hit by feel. The other guys, who are not natural hitters (relatively few guys – Boggs, Gwynn, Mauer are natural hitters and will consistently smash at 330), we must hope do a lot of video so they can pick up pitchers tendencies. I thought Heyward had a good at bat yesterday, but they did run a scheme against him that the pitcher executed very, very well. His long foul was a great defensive swing. Also, a lot of stupid, snob hitters of today ( such as JD Drew) dependent too much on their knowledge of the strike zone. If you have 2 strikes, you must defend the zone – if it is close, you intentionally foul it off. However you cut it, our offense is bad – we were NO HIT. McLouth, Glaus Melky – are all guys we picked up. They are all, currently, bad. Factor in McCann’s, Chippers and Heyward slump, plus the pitcher, and our best hitting prospects are Prado & Escobar. They should be 1,2 with McCann 3, Chipper 4 then Heyward; with Glaus then McLouth. I would replace McLouth & Glaus with Conrad & Hinski – because despite of everything, the key is being clutch; and it appears Conrad is & I know Hinski is.
Right now, Heyward is hitting .220-something because he is a rookie going thru a learning curve. A learning curve that holds promise to be a steep one if he goes about things properly
Having him alter his basic plate philosophy such that he flails away at anything that remotely looks like it might prove hittable would be a surefure way to turn him into a .220-something hitter
Everyone says TP should go but looking at some stats he actually has helped hitters. However, that was a random sample. TP might be one of those guys who makes a better manager than hitting coach. But we might not know til its too late!
Heyward’s average is down to .224 with a still-solid .358 on-base percentage, fourth-best among Braves regulars behind Prado (.433), Chipper (.420) and McCann (.405).
Heyward’s four homers and 16 RBIs are only one fewer homer and two fewer RBIs than those three hitters combined.
{4th} Our cleanup hitter hitting a cool .200 (he’s been improving lately)
{5th} Next is Diaz with a .195 average (he’s due, he’s gonna have a 2-hit performance tonight, with at least an extra-base hit)
{6th} Melky hitting .179 (having good cuts lately, but don’t know what to expect from him)
{7th} Everything OK with Ross
{8th} MkLouth .149 (same as Melky)
Oh, and Chipper hitting third facing a lefty. I wish he could swing without problems tonight.
I am amazed chipper didn’t strain his eyes from second and come out of the game and sit the rest of the week. hopefully TP and BC will leave this kid alone haven’t the two of them screwed up enough young hitters. take a look they are scattered throughout the majors and all doing well now that pendleton can’t touch them anymore. how about ned yost next yr for manager and hopefully he will bring leo back. the only coach i would keep is hubbie the rest have GOT TO GO along with glaus,chipper,lowe kk jojo and a few others bring up the kids
You know they say the same thing about Joe Mauer not saying Heyward is Mauer but I’m saying he’s pretty good at what he does and I see no reason Jason cannot be suceessful give him time Bobby and stop making idiotic comments.
Heyward is a young cat with the skill set to be whale of a ballplayer
He proved himself as a threat early on so now pitchers are toying with his head. Give him time to develop mentally. Apart of that is not having to think so much at the dish.
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Paddy O
April 28th, 2010
6:05 pm
Mikey – you are making a logic error, called hasty generalization; plus you deduction is erroneous. They are not good because they take a lot balls. Because they are good, high quality ball players, they know the difference between a ball and a strike. A good pitcher gets you swinging at bad or borderline pitches. Only true power pitchers make a living off of just tossing the ball in the strike zone & daring you to hit it. If you do not have great hitters – most of the Yankees will hit at least 300 this year – then your team is more see good pitch, hit good pitch, or you must be lucky and guess right (a lot of scouting & video). Our older hitters, which now is really just Chipper, can hit by feel. The other guys, who are not natural hitters (relatively few guys – Boggs, Gwynn, Mauer are natural hitters and will consistently smash at 330), we must hope do a lot of video so they can pick up pitchers tendencies. I thought Heyward had a good at bat yesterday, but they did run a scheme against him that the pitcher executed very, very well. His long foul was a great defensive swing. Also, a lot of stupid, snob hitters of today ( such as JD Drew) dependent too much on their knowledge of the strike zone. If you have 2 strikes, you must defend the zone – if it is close, you intentionally foul it off. However you cut it, our offense is bad – we were NO HIT. McLouth, Glaus Melky – are all guys we picked up. They are all, currently, bad. Factor in McCann’s, Chippers and Heyward slump, plus the pitcher, and our best hitting prospects are Prado & Escobar. They should be 1,2 with McCann 3, Chipper 4 then Heyward; with Glaus then McLouth. I would replace McLouth & Glaus with Conrad & Hinski – because despite of everything, the key is being clutch; and it appears Conrad is & I know Hinski is.
Robert
April 28th, 2010
6:06 pm
” Chipper basically completely contradicted what Cox said.”
Chipper’s take on this situation makes sense.
Robert
April 28th, 2010
6:10 pm
Right now, Heyward is hitting .220-something because he is a rookie going thru a learning curve. A learning curve that holds promise to be a steep one if he goes about things properly
Having him alter his basic plate philosophy such that he flails away at anything that remotely looks like it might prove hittable would be a surefure way to turn him into a .220-something hitter
crymeariver
April 28th, 2010
6:20 pm
He is.
adam
April 28th, 2010
6:27 pm
Everyone says TP should go but looking at some stats he actually has helped hitters. However, that was a random sample. TP might be one of those guys who makes a better manager than hitting coach. But we might not know til its too late!
David O'Brien
April 28th, 2010
7:36 pm
Heyward’s average is down to .224 with a still-solid .358 on-base percentage, fourth-best among Braves regulars behind Prado (.433), Chipper (.420) and McCann (.405).
Heyward’s four homers and 16 RBIs are only one fewer homer and two fewer RBIs than those three hitters combined.
Don't-win-it-4Bobby-but-4the-FANS
April 28th, 2010
8:02 pm
Tonight game’s lineup looks terrific!
{4th} Our cleanup hitter hitting a cool .200 (he’s been improving lately)
{5th} Next is Diaz with a .195 average (he’s due, he’s gonna have a 2-hit performance tonight, with at least an extra-base hit)
{6th} Melky hitting .179 (having good cuts lately, but don’t know what to expect from him)
{7th} Everything OK with Ross
{8th} MkLouth .149 (same as Melky)
Oh, and Chipper hitting third facing a lefty. I wish he could swing without problems tonight.
tim
April 28th, 2010
8:03 pm
I am amazed chipper didn’t strain his eyes from second and come out of the game and sit the rest of the week. hopefully TP and BC will leave this kid alone haven’t the two of them screwed up enough young hitters. take a look they are scattered throughout the majors and all doing well now that pendleton can’t touch them anymore. how about ned yost next yr for manager and hopefully he will bring leo back. the only coach i would keep is hubbie the rest have GOT TO GO along with glaus,chipper,lowe kk jojo and a few others bring up the kids
Don't-win-it-4Bobby-but-4the-FANS
April 28th, 2010
8:09 pm
Just watched the standings and the Braves currently sit 4.0 GB behind the… METS? I hope it doesn’t last long.
Don't-win-it-4Bobby-but-4the-FANS
April 28th, 2010
8:11 pm
By the way, Kelly Johnson with the winning HR for the D-Backs this afternoon. Good for him!
Mike
April 28th, 2010
11:22 pm
You know they say the same thing about Joe Mauer not saying Heyward is Mauer but I’m saying he’s pretty good at what he does and I see no reason Jason cannot be suceessful give him time Bobby and stop making idiotic comments.
Dstrick
May 12th, 2010
12:55 pm
Heyward is a young cat with the skill set to be whale of a ballplayer
He proved himself as a threat early on so now pitchers are toying with his head. Give him time to develop mentally. Apart of that is not having to think so much at the dish.