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PMC
April 27th, 2010
4:23 pm
Last night was just bad luck. You’re going to have nights like that. I just hate seeing them put an E4 on the board and look silly. If they keep working pitchers deep eventually it’s going to pay off.
Daslied
April 27th, 2010
4:23 pm
Ted M, Huff and Young both suck.
Ted M
April 27th, 2010
4:26 pm
Huff sucks now but he was great when at Tampa
Shaun
April 27th, 2010
4:26 pm
Folks complain about giving up a lot in the Teixeira trade. Now they are willing to trade away what it would take to get Carl Crawford, a lesser player? Can’t comprehend the thinking of many of you.
Hick Brave Fan
April 27th, 2010
4:26 pm
Let’s trade Jo-Jo Reyes for Roy Halladay…
RHR
April 27th, 2010
4:26 pm
Who the hell is this “pee guy” and why is his nickname stored in bladders? If this is a long story… nevermind.
Lou Vales is the pee guy. He showed up one night to tell us that he didn’t care about the braves but he just got up to pee and thought he would pop in and tell us how much the braves suck. His posts were a mixture of Dense and Coach with a lot of DOB stalking thrown in.
PMC
April 27th, 2010
4:27 pm
At this point being patient and waiting to develop some position players is probably the best course. If we could trade some pitching prospects for position prospects that might be the best. This team cannot win with pitching alone in this division. They have to score runs consistantly.
Delbert D.
April 27th, 2010
4:27 pm
Okay, here is the solution. Trade Heyward for a top player under contract for at least 3 years (any position other than pitcher or catcher) with the stipulation that the team has to take Chipper and his whole salary as well. I really like Heyward, but sometimes you have to take drastic measures to keep the ship afloat. It’s down to the gunwales already, and it’s still April.
RHR
April 27th, 2010
4:29 pm
The “D” is for dumbass.
Nova Scotia Steve
April 27th, 2010
4:29 pm
UHHHH OHHHH Delbert D.
Either log-out or duck…It could get messy
Still Not Encouraged
April 27th, 2010
4:30 pm
Maybe those teams’ ERAs are higher against the Braves bc we haven’t always seen the best pitcher on those staffs, unless that was accounted for and I missed reading it.
Plus the top 6 and 8th place teams out of a 16 team League doesn’t mean all that pitching was really good. Look at how we performed against the 8th place team in ERA and that is just mediocre pitching. But one of those pitchers was Halladay, which just brings me back to the point in my first sentence.
David O'Brien
April 27th, 2010
4:30 pm
I swear, a few of you are apparently even more sensitive than I was implying Glaus is. Ironic that a couple of you work yourselves up so over me implying that Glaus is a guy who might actually be affected by booing, which is a comment about him and not about fans. But whatever. Take it how you want. Like I said, boo him. I probably would if I were a fan in the stands.
Wayne in Utah
April 27th, 2010
4:30 pm
scoots
And exactly what do you have against Freel????
Bobby Hill
Actually, a year and a half ago, the Lowe signing was exactly what the Braves needed. In hindsight, it is easy to be critical of such a deal, but at the time it was just what the doctor ordered. Same goes for Chipper’s extension. Folks were worried about ticking off Chipper around just before he signed the new extension. Dude has been loyal and our top dog for a long time. Now folks are unhappy with his contract. We had him for several years at a bargain.
Some folks have short memories.
ncscoots
April 27th, 2010
4:31 pm
Dang, RHR, you got the feisty dialed up today, don’t you, LOL?
Shaun
April 27th, 2010
4:32 pm
For those of you freaking out about the offense, here are some guys who currently rank 150th or lower in the majors in OPS: Mark Teixeira, Carlos Lee, Aramis Ramirez, Chone Figgins, J.D. Drew, Gordon Beckham, Nick Johnson, Grady Sizemore, Adam Jones.
Sample size, folks! It’s still early.
Are the Braves going to have a great offense? No. But they will be better than they’ve been.
Salamander
April 27th, 2010
4:32 pm
RHR – thanks for the clarification. I guess Mr. Vales has a keyboard at the ready in the john.
ugaaccountant
April 27th, 2010
4:32 pm
“Shaun
April 27th, 2010
4:26 pm
Folks complain about giving up a lot in the Teixeira trade. Now they are willing to trade away what it would take to get Carl Crawford, a lesser player? Can’t comprehend the thinking of many of you.”
It’s rarely the same people arguing both sides of the debate.
We have pretty much a 50/50 split of people who follow the sport intently and understand this, vs. people who think we can get A. Gonzalez for JoJo and that the money will work itself out later when the grown-ups sit down and make it happen.
Wayne in Utah
April 27th, 2010
4:33 pm
Hick Brave Fan
Now why do you want to give up early on Jo Jo??
the real Andy
April 27th, 2010
4:33 pm
excellent point about the counter-productivity of booing Glaus. I never understood booing a player who is trying hard. I’ve booed two Braves in my hundreds of games (Andruw for dogging it on a very beatable grounder in Smoltz’s 200th W, Chipper for making an error in LF bc he was paying attention to the busty woman in the stands instead of the game).
If a guy is giving his all, how on earth is it going to help for his home crowd to give him nothing in the way of support? Especially if he’s trying to re-establish himself after injury, and it’s only the first week of the season.
I love the Braves (to the point of myopic insanity), but I am increasingly frustrated with Atlanta fans. Fickle, spoiled brats who can’t even sell out a playoff game. I go to other stadiums in my travels, and the fans put Atlanta to shame. They support their team, pay attention to the game, cheer spontaneously, and on the rare occasions they do show displeasure, they save it for someone who has genuinely earned it.
ugaaccountant
April 27th, 2010
4:33 pm
Umm, a lot of us were against the Lowe trade at the time because of how long and how much money we gave him.
Ted M
April 27th, 2010
4:33 pm
I don’t think Glaus is affected by the booing.
gobraves
April 27th, 2010
4:33 pm
uugggghhhhhh…..this is going to be the longest season ever and i really dont see a solution any time soon. lets go 2076 braves well by then they will probably be the oklahoma city braves.
Delbert D.
April 27th, 2010
4:34 pm
Nova Scotia Steve – Yeah, I knew it would be controversial. Step #2 in my plan is to trade Melky for a new set of tires for the team bus.
Wayne in Utah
April 27th, 2010
4:34 pm
Dammit Shaun, don’t go trying to use logic on these folks! It just won’t work.
ncscoots
April 27th, 2010
4:35 pm
RHR – thanks for the clarification. I guess Mr. Vales has a keyboard at the ready in the john.
Dude. Don’t make me visualize that, please.
David O'Brien
April 27th, 2010
4:36 pm
DOB, stop getting you’re hopes up — Chip Shot
Getting my hopes up? Chip Shot, I’ll be covering the team whether they win ‘em all, lose ‘em all, or somewhere in-between. I don’t get my hopes up or worry. That’s your job.
lizziemarie
April 27th, 2010
4:36 pm
My only observation about the Braves so far is that the ONE big hit game they had (a while back) was when they were late getting to the field and SKIPPED BATTING PRACTICE. Maybe they should try that again. What could it hurt?
ugaaccountant
April 27th, 2010
4:36 pm
lets go 2076 braves well by then they will probably be the oklahoma city braves.
Umm, didn’t you hear? By 2076 emperor Obama will have outlawed all forms of entertainment and sports so that his workers can be more productive at all times.
Breaking News!!!
April 27th, 2010
4:37 pm
Bobby Cox to step down, due to “health” reasons.
FEAR
April 27th, 2010
4:37 pm
DOB – any good food so far in STL?
ugaaccountant
April 27th, 2010
4:37 pm
Step #2 in my plan is to trade Melky for a new set of tires for the team bus.
Is step 3 ????
and
step 4 Profit!
Bruce Chen
April 27th, 2010
4:38 pm
First!!
Shaun
April 27th, 2010
4:38 pm
Here’s the problem with booing Glaus (although if you are a fan you obviously have the right). But it is dumb. Anyone who has watched half the Braves’ games can clearly see Glaus is hitting into a ton of bad luck. Also, the stats back up what you’ve seen. Glaus’s career batting average on balls in the field of play is .281. Right now he’s hitting .256 on balls in the field of play.
Is Glaus still the hitter he was in his prime? No way. Is he really as bad as his numbers seem to indicate on the surface? No way. If he’s not injured he’s perfectly capable of being a league-average firstbaseman, which is just fine and about what the Braves signed him to be.
Wayne in Utah
April 27th, 2010
4:38 pm
ugaaccountant
There might have been some who didn’t like the Lowe deal. I wasn’t thrilled with the length of the contract myself, but at the time, we didn’t know what we were going to have. Kawakami wasn’t signed yet, and Hanson was still in the minors. Also, Vazquez was a bit of a wild card coming off a bad stint with the Pale Hose. And, Jurrjens had only done it for 1 year at that point in time.
We needed a guy who could go out and give us solid innings with a good injury and durability history.
Breaking News!!!
April 27th, 2010
4:38 pm
I’m sorry, It was only a dream. DAMN
Troy Glaus
April 27th, 2010
4:38 pm
Stop booooing me guys; I use to hate it when my ma’ma booooed me {when I was eating meatloaf} :{
Ted M
April 27th, 2010
4:39 pm
Dave, do you think Tampa will trade Crawford not necessarily to the Braves later this season?
Still Not Encouraged
April 27th, 2010
4:39 pm
I know that I am going through a gallon of Edy’s a day watching this team play
faninva
April 27th, 2010
4:39 pm
“I go to other stadiums in my travels, and the fans put Atlanta to shame. They support their team…” – real andy
No, there’s never any booing in Philly, though they do throw projectiles at Santa Claus.
ncscoots
April 27th, 2010
4:40 pm
hey, bean-counter, why don’t you stick the presidential slurs where the sun don’t shine and the blog can’t see them? No politics, remember?
Bat Masterson
April 27th, 2010
4:41 pm
The bad thing about the pee guy is, he had prostate cancer or surgery, something, and had to set an alarm to get up and pee. Even so he was such an ass, he could engender no compassion.
Wayne in Utah
April 27th, 2010
4:41 pm
uga
Watch out for that center rail?
Delbert D.
April 27th, 2010
4:41 pm
The heck with it. I just put my application for Braves general manager through the shredder. I’m applying to a monastery in Tibet instead.
Still Not Encouraged
April 27th, 2010
4:42 pm
lighten up, ncscoots…it was one little joke….a slur?…lmao
Chip
April 27th, 2010
4:42 pm
Here’s what I’ve gathered from this blog so far.
The Braves will basically stay unaltered as a team due to $$$.
The offense will get better, because it can’t get worse.
DOB is a bully, and not in tune with our sensitivity.
An 8 game winning streak will start tonight or the next game.
Not from the blog,
I can’t believe Juwan Howard is still playing….Fab 5 was Howard, Webber, Rose, ?, ?….My google is broken.
Wayne in Utah
April 27th, 2010
4:43 pm
We need to transplant some Jazz fans out to ATL! Friday night at the game was maddening. Gotta love it baby!
W
April 27th, 2010
4:43 pm
DOB, I know you’re a huge Jayhawks fan, do you ever cover any basketball for the AJC? Appreciate the work you do here.
Jesse Stone
April 27th, 2010
4:43 pm
Ted M- The Rays were NEVER in contention whaen they had Young and Huff.
ncscoots
April 27th, 2010
4:44 pm
lighten up, ncscoots…it was one little joke….a slur?…lmao
Brother, I’d be all over Sarah Palin jokes the same way. Leave that bleep at the door.
Jesse Stone
April 27th, 2010
4:44 pm
Chip- One was Jimmy King
Mr. Turnip-Green Jeans
April 27th, 2010
4:45 pm
I’ve felt sorry for Glaus. The booers didn’t allow him adequate time to find his stride. He’s no worse than Tex was at first, but there was much more fan patience in that case. Not fair at all.
DOB, I assume you watch Jayhawks football religiously. How good is WR Kerry Meier, drafted by the Falcons? Looks great on the highlight reels, but everybody does. How was he game-in, game-out?
Wayne in Utah
April 27th, 2010
4:46 pm
Chip
Jimmy King and Ray Jackson. Howard, Weber and Rose were the studs.
Delbert D.
April 27th, 2010
4:46 pm
RHR – You are the only one who has come close on that. “D” is a middle initial only.
Rafael Belliard
April 27th, 2010
4:46 pm
You guys need me to come back and play some “small ball”????
Chip
April 27th, 2010
4:46 pm
One was Jimmy King
Robert Tractor Trailer as the 5th, maybe?
Shaun
April 27th, 2010
4:47 pm
do you think Tampa will trade Crawford not necessarily to the Braves later this season?
I’m not Dave, but I don’t think they will. He’s probably more valuable to them than what he would bring them on the trade market. A team would likely have to give up a lot to get a player who is a rental and likely to be overvalued on the free agent market. He’s a very good player but he’s never been an outstanding on-base or power guy; plus he doesn’t walk a lot, which may indicate that he won’t age well. Some team is going to overpay for his speed and what he’s done the last two or three years rather than what he’s likely to do the next five or six years.
Jesse Stone
April 27th, 2010
4:48 pm
trailor came later.
Knowitall
April 27th, 2010
4:48 pm
Chip,
Tractor Trailer was a year or two later.
Salamander
April 27th, 2010
4:48 pm
The blog does have a tendency to overreact to anything even remotely political in nature. (oh yeah, I’ve taken a ride on that bus – climate change anyone?)
Then again, the blog overreacts to mostly everything.
Jesse Stone
April 27th, 2010
4:49 pm
Crawford will be 29 this year. His best attribute is his speed. I would not sign him past 5 years
ugaaccountant
April 27th, 2010
4:49 pm
No politics, remember?
True. Sorry about that.
"S" Crowbar
April 27th, 2010
4:50 pm
I really do dink I need a bacation !!!!!!!
Gigga
April 27th, 2010
4:50 pm
I still feel that Chipper’s great baseball career as a star is over. He appears to be happy being the coach-mentor in the dug out. He has made all the money he could ever need.. There is no incentive or enthusiasm left to play the game. He was a great player…give him a coaching job NOW
the real Andy
April 27th, 2010
4:51 pm
I was at Atlanta opening day 2008. The night before, when the Braves played at Washington to kick off the season, Moylan gave up a HR to Zimmerman to lose the game.
So on opening night in Atlanta, Moylan gets roundly booed when he comes into the game. This is the guy who had posted a 1.80 ERA in 90 innings, coming out of nowhere in his rookie year in 2007.
That same night, Matt Diaz was having a rough night, and was booed when introduced for his 5th AB (was 0-for-4 at the time, finished 1-for-6). This is the same guy who busts his tail on every single play and had hit a combined .333 in the two previous seasons, again coming out of nowhere.
This was all in a game that went extra innings, the second game of the season. Not some 15-0 blowout in the middle of a losing streak.
I was at a playoff game late in the run (’03, ‘04?) when the not-even-close-to-a-sellout crowd starting booing and groaning because we were down 2 runs in the 3rd inning.
Sometimes I am ashamed of Braves crowds.
N8
April 27th, 2010
4:51 pm
I just want to point out (since I was too busy venting and continuing an argument from the other blog – to actually read the new blog before going off – I just read the new blog), that DOB’s “take” on the supposed season saving trade of A-Gon that many are suggesting is pretty much word for word, fact for fact, and opinion for opinion statement I made about the reasons NOT to trade for him a day or two ago while sparring with a fellow blogger.
Sorry DOB, but you and I are thinking alike on this one. I know that must pain you, and would understand if you suddenly changed your mind and began advocating such a move, as to not think like me.
Don’t fight it my good man. Come to the dark side. Together we can rule the …..eh…..universe? (OK, maybe just this small section of cyber-space).
Oh wait. You already DO rule this section of cyber-space, don’t you?
Never mind.
MitchC
April 27th, 2010
4:51 pm
Dave, the Braves are a pitiful offensive team, bottom line. They can’t go on like this, or they will end up losing 90-100 games, even if they have the best pitching in the league.
As for what you said about Gonzalez. By 2012, Chipper won’t, or shouldn’t, be an issue anymore. He will either be retired, or maybe he should just go to the American League as a DH. At 40 years old, I doubt he’ll be playing.
As for Lowe, he would be in the last season of that contract. We can either try to trade him, or, since Liberty said there is “No set payroll limit”, what would be if those guys raised the payroll 10 or 15 mil for one season, so we can keep Gonzalez if he comes here, and keep Lowe anyway? Lowe would probably be gone after 2012, because by then, he’ll be 40 years old.
As I said yesterday, if I know Frank Wren and this team as I do, my bet is we will not trade for Gonzalez, or do anything significant, and will try to ride it out with what we have now, and wait for Glaus and Company to break out of their slumps.
If something isn’t done, and soon, forget about the wild card, this team will be looking at a sub 500 season, which would be an inglorious way for Bobby to go out.
ncscoots
April 27th, 2010
4:51 pm
The blog does have a tendency to overreact to anything even remotely political in nature.
Hey, would you trust some of the folks you read here to have anything remotely resembling a cogent discussion on political science, LOL? Please. Best to just not let that genie out of the bottle, at all.
Delbert D.
April 27th, 2010
4:53 pm
Yunel shuts out the boos with earplugs. Unfortunately, the 3rd base coach can communicate with him only through hand signals. Problem is, even if he sees them, the hand signals are in English.
MiaBchBravesFan
April 27th, 2010
4:53 pm
Here’s “The Speech”:
1) Dump salary: get rid of Chipper, McLouth, and send Melky back to the AL. If anyone wants D. Lowe, swallow a couple of million and get rid of him! Put Schafer in CF, Diaz/Hinske in RF, Infante/Hinske at 3B, and Medlen can take the fifth space left by Lowe’s (hopeful) departure.
2) Bring up Wes Timmons or Barbaro Cañizares and DUMP GLAUS!!! Those two could do better than the stiff we have at first right now.
3) Frank Wren, look in the mirror. Know who you are, and who you work for. The Braves are not going to sign Albert Pujols, Adrian Gonzalez, Joe Mauer, or Ryan Howard anytime soon for the dollars they signed/will sign for. Time to save money, start developing from within, and stop wasting $2 million here and $4 million on wasteoids who don’t do squat. Just the aggregate salaries of Mondesi, Anderson, McLouth, and Cabrera over the years would’ve reaped better benefits in the long run than the stop-gap-with-crap approach we have taken over the years. I’d rather have seen a batch of $250K rookies in LF than those stiffs over the years.
End of speech.
Daslied
April 27th, 2010
4:53 pm
Ballgame!
Shaun
April 27th, 2010
4:54 pm
Crawford’s OPS+ ranks 69th among active players, between Damon and Austin Kearns.
Falcon Josh
April 27th, 2010
4:54 pm
I just want to see Hinske get a chance to play first once a week. Then it will become 2, 3,and 4 times a week. Just like Prado took Kelly’s job… I bet Hinske can take it from Glaus!!!
gobraves
April 27th, 2010
4:54 pm
tommorows line up
jordan schafer “using one arm”
terry pendleton
julio franco
corky miller
garret anderson
scott thorman
kieth lockhart
robert fick
jo jo reyes “going to throw sitting down”
at least this way there is no expectation to win
TJ
April 27th, 2010
4:55 pm
do we have a lineup yet?
The Lemmer
April 27th, 2010
4:55 pm
Start platooning Hinske at 1st & in the outfield so we can see what he can do, put Infante in at 3rd when Larry goes down, McClouth & Glaus should be on short leashes as sorry as they have been!
NoSourceInsider.com
April 27th, 2010
4:55 pm
Word on the street is Frank Wren is contacting the agent of Albert Belle. Seems Frank didn’t learn his lesson in Baltimore.
jerry
April 27th, 2010
4:55 pm
Atlanta doesn’t have the Cowboys, Yankees, or Red Wings. You know who we got when it comes to championships, we got a bunch of f–king losers. Deal with it.
Glen W
April 27th, 2010
4:56 pm
I don’t think Crawford would really solve the team’s biggest problems. He would make the team better, sure. But he wouldn’t solve the team’s biggest problems.
And for those that say that the Rays will not trade Crawford because the Rays are contending. I will not say you are wrong. But I would say the MLB culture is changing in this area.
The greatest taboo these days is to let your top talent leave when getting nothing in return. In some circles that is becoming perceived as being worse than trading one of your best players at the deadline. We’ve seen the A’s do this multiple times. We’ve seen other small/mid-market teams do this. We even saw the Redsox get created and move Manny in this way too.
Shaun
April 27th, 2010
4:56 pm
MiaBchBravesFan, I suppose their teams should dump the following: Mark Teixeira, Carlos Lee, Aramis Ramirez, Chone Figgins, J.D. Drew, Gordon Beckham, Nick Johnson, Grady Sizemore, Adam Jones.
If GM’s are going to start making roster moves based on not even a month’s worth of games, you have to agree that these players need to be “gotten rid of.”
Mr. Enigma
April 27th, 2010
4:56 pm
Interesting read:
http://www.talkingchop.com/2010/4/27/1446842/terry-pendleton-is-not-a-bad#storyjump
Marc in FL
April 27th, 2010
4:56 pm
We’re going to almost win tonight, I can feel it!!!
Jimmy Joe
April 27th, 2010
4:56 pm
Carpenter is going to beat the Braves tonight. 8-12
We will end the streak and beat Jaime Garcia tomorrow. 9-12
Wainwright will dominate this lineup on Thursday. 9-13
9-13 in the month of April.
Pathetic.
Mr. Turnip-Green Jeans
April 27th, 2010
4:57 pm
Don’t know gobraves, I can see Fick carrying that team on his back.
Delbert D.
April 27th, 2010
4:57 pm
MiaBchBravesFan – Pklease send your resume and salary requirements to John Scheurholz. Wren doesn’t have to know. This will be a surprise, heh-heh.
Glen W
April 27th, 2010
4:57 pm
*We even saw the Redsox get creative and move Manny in this way too.
RC
April 27th, 2010
4:57 pm
Word on the street is Frank Wren is contacting the agent of Albert Belle. Seems Frank didn’t learn his lesson in Baltimore.
You mean the signing that the owner of the team in Balitmore essentially forced Frank to make, even though he was against it? Please make sure you have done a little research before spouting out on the blog.
Jimmy Joe
April 27th, 2010
4:58 pm
We’ll win on Friday, so it’s 10-13 in the month of April. Still pathetic for a team that most thought would win the wild card.
FEAR
April 27th, 2010
4:59 pm
RC
April 27th, 2010
4:57 pm
Word on the street is Frank Wren is contacting the agent of Albert Belle. Seems Frank didn’t learn his lesson in Baltimore.
You mean the signing that the owner of the team in Balitmore essentially forced Frank to make, even though he was against it? Please make sure you have done a little research before spouting out on the blog.
That is exactly right RC. Peter Angelos made that deal basically.
the real Andy
April 27th, 2010
4:59 pm
>>>You know who we got when it comes to championships, we got a bunch of f–king losers. Deal with it.
maybe if they had actually supportive crowds like the aforementioned winners, they’d have more championships. i guess it can get to be a chicken or the egg argument at a certain point.
Glen W
April 27th, 2010
4:59 pm
Jimmy Joe – I guarantee you that the team that wins the wild card this year will go through a stretch in which it goes 10-13 or worse… maybe more than once.
Chip
April 27th, 2010
5:00 pm
Garrett Anderson is batting .184 with the Dodgers after 35 AB’s…..But, his 1 home run & 0 stolen bases would have him right up there amongst the Braves leaders in those categories.
Shaun
April 27th, 2010
5:00 pm
Glen W, I think the problem for the Rays is that many contending teams are smart enough to realize Crawford is not the type of player those teams want to acquire for what the Rays would be asking. Crawford’s value to the Rays this season is higher than what they could get for him from a contending team on the trade market.
Mr. Turnip-Green Jeans
April 27th, 2010
5:00 pm
Didn’t the Braves have a couple losing Aprils during the 14-year streak?
faninva
April 27th, 2010
5:00 pm
andy – try going to a baltimore orioles game where the tradition is to shout “OH!” as in O’s when the national anthem gets to the “O! (OOHHH!) say does that star-spangled banner yet wave.” can’t stand it. Can’t stand Red Sox fans because of their obnoxiousness, same with Yankee fans. so let me ask you this – while you hear all this booing that you dislike so much, what are you doing? Are you clapping and cheering to counteract the booing or are you just sitting there? My guess would be the latter.
Jesse Stone
April 27th, 2010
5:01 pm
Manny was traded because he basically quit on the team. Apples to apricots.
Cold Stove
April 27th, 2010
5:02 pm
sigh
Bat Masterson
April 27th, 2010
5:03 pm
MiaBchBravesFan
April 27th, 2010
4:53 pm
End of speech.
Dude that was a diatribe.
Jimmy Joe
April 27th, 2010
5:04 pm
Geln W – You could be right, but I am sick and tired of THIS Braves team starting the season off badly. I haven’t felt good about this team since 2003 when Furcal and Giles started like every game off with back to back singles and had a first and third for Sheff, Jones and Jones.
That’s the last time I enjoyed Braves baseball. I want a god fearing offense. Philly style.
Bobby Hill
April 27th, 2010
5:04 pm
Wayne –
I was no fan of the Lowe signing. Not then and not now. Wren acquired Vazquez, Lowe and Kawakami that winter. At that point it seemed pretty clear to me that the team wasn’t ready to compete offensively in 2009. And with Hudson likely to come back and Hanson near ready I just didn’t see the need to acquire three pitchers at that point in time. (If Wren had acquired McLouth and Laroche in the off season rather than during the season, the argument changes.)
Because of his age and the size and length of the contract Lowe was the biggest gamble. At that point Lowe was basically an aging #2 starter who had put together a couple solid years. There was no reason to give him a four year contract. But Wren was desperate for a good PR splash.
Cold Stove
April 27th, 2010
5:05 pm
so become a philly fan jimmy joe and tell billy jo hi for us