Rain-shortened loss extends Braves’ skid to five

New York – Rain or shine, the Braves seem all but incapable of driving in runs.

They stranded 10 runners in five innings during a rain-shortened 1-0 loss against the Mets on Sunday night at Citi Field, the fifth consecutive defeat for a Braves team that has almost its entire lineup slumping at once.

The Mets scored an unearned run in the first inning on a Chipper Jones throwing error, then held on for the win and series sweep, keeping last-place Atlanta three games behind National League East leader Philadelphia.

“Things couldn’t have gone any worse for us this weekend,” said Jones, who returned to the lineup sooner than expected after leaving Saturday’s game with a sore hip. “Hopefully things go better for us in St. Louis.”

The Braves (8-10) were swept for the first time this season and slipped to 1-1/2 games behind bunched-together Florida, Washington and New York in the division standings.

After totaling more than twice as many errors (seven) as runs (three) in New York, the  Braves continue their two-city trip Monday night with the opener of a four-game series against Albert Pujols and the Cardinals.

“That’s what, five in a row?” manager Bobby Cox said of the skid. “We need to break that real quick.”

They’ve hit .201 while scoring just 14 runs in their past eight games, and the Braves are 7-for-52 (.135) with runners in scoring position in that period, including 1-for-14 the past two games.

“We were all over the bases all night,” Cox said, “just had a tough time getting ‘em in again. But at least we’re getting them on.”

Tommy Hanson (1-2) was a hard-luck loser, charged with one unearned run, five hits and two walks in five innings while racking up eight strikeouts and trimming his ERA to 2.14.

“The rain and everything, there’s nothing you can do about it,” Hanson said. “That’s out of my control. But I feel really good today. I’m really happy with the way I threw the ball.

“It’s not satisfying, because the point is to win the game. That said, I can only worry about what I can control.”

Braves pitchers held opponents to three earned runs or fewer in five of the past eight games, but are 2-6 in that stretch.

“You get good-pitched games, you want to win them,” Cox said. “But it’s not going that way right now. You take what you got and move on.”

The Mets scored in the opening inning after Jose Reyes hit a two-out single and advanced to second on a stolen base. Jason Bay hit a single that Jones fielded on his knees before making an errant throw to first that allowed Reyes to score.

It rained most of the day and night in New York and Jones came up with a handful of mud along with the ball, which he said prevented a good grip on his throw.

“Troy [Glaus] said it only rotated about two times,” Jones said of his throw to the first baseman. “That’s kind of the way it’s going. My hand was complete mud.
There were repeated missed opportunities for the Braves against Mets right-hander Mike Pelfrey (4-0), who extended his scoreless-innings streak to 24 despite allowing five hits and five walks in five innings.

They loaded the bases in the first on a two-out walk by Jones, a Brian McCann double and a Troy Glaus walk. Rookie Jason Heyward, who’s been the Braves’ best with runners in scoring position, popped out to end a nine-pitch at-bat.

Jones said he didn’t know if his still-sore hip would’ve prevented him from making it around to score from first base on McCann’s double, but in retrospect he wished he’d tried.

At the time, however, he and third-base coach Brian Snitker didn’t know the relay was going to be imperfect or the game decided by one run.

In the second inning, the Braves stranded two when Martin Prado struck out. In the third, they stranded two when Heyward grounded into a double play.

The Braves had two runners on base yet again in the fifth, after a Prado double and a McCann walk. Glaus grounded into a double play to thwart that scoring chance, dropping him to 4-for-24 with runners in scoring position.

Four of eight position players in the Braves’ Sunday lineup are batting below .200: Cabrera (.153), Glaus (.186), Escobar (.188) and McLouth (.146).

The game was called after a 98-minute delay following the first pitch thrown in the top of the sixth inning. Five completed innings is all that’s required for an official game.

“It’s not going to stop [raining] for a long time,” said Cox, who monitored the weather radar during the delay. “They had no choice.”

144 comments Add your comment

Jaketekaj

April 26th, 2010
12:08 am

Jaketekaj

April 26th, 2010
12:09 am

Jaketekaj

April 26th, 2010
12:12 am

Well… Exactly a week ago, Heyward had the game winning hit and the Braves were the toast of the NL East.
Now, they just want to finish a game without any errors.

Jaketekaj

April 26th, 2010
12:15 am

David, Do you think the Braves gave up too early on Kelly Johnson?

After all, Frenchy struggled for a better part of 3 seasons and Kelly sucked only last year. On the other hand, he already has 7 homers in the leadoff spot.

bravo42

April 26th, 2010
12:16 am

Man, Chipper needs to eat his Wheaties, and so does the rest of the club, whew…….eh…get the bat going!

jcwfalcon

April 26th, 2010
12:17 am

Who wants to buy a ticket to see the Braves when they get back into town? Not me. Good job guys!

kwajbraves

April 26th, 2010
12:17 am

No shame to lose 2 out of 3 to the Phillies but to get swept by the Mets is downright embarrassing.

jcwfalcon

April 26th, 2010
12:22 am

I wish I could gripe about the game being rain shortened…but honestly it wouldnt have mattered. The Braves cant win…and the bats arent trying to win. Glaus’s mannerisms after hitting into a double play make Andruw Jones look like Captain Emotion. They dont care…and I dont care to go see them. It is almost so bad I wont even care to follow them on TV. Who wants to watch a team of losers who average less than 2 runs per game?

GSU Eagle 91

April 26th, 2010
12:26 am

It’s still early in the season, but I do NOT want to see jogging to first on a grounder to second…..RUN!

Good humor man

April 26th, 2010
12:29 am

Did y’all see Chipper try to get up after stopping that ball. He looked like the old lady in the commercial, “I fallen and I can’t get up.”

Gonna get swept

April 26th, 2010
12:32 am

michael scott

April 26th, 2010
12:32 am

@good humor man

i needed a good laugh… hahahahhahahahhahahahaha

Chillahill43

April 26th, 2010
12:34 am

Is there really no one in gwinnett that can bat leadoff. Blanco would be better than this bunch. Cmon somebody help me understand what the heck is going on. Im back in 1976 this team is killing me. Help!!!!!

John in Athens

April 26th, 2010
12:39 am

How much longer are we going to have to suffer through the Troy Glaus experiment?!?!?!?!?

rc35

April 26th, 2010
12:39 am

In 1989, the year the Braves had their lowest team batting average (.234), the averages of those playing in at least 100 games were: Jeff Blauser, .270, Darrell Evans, .207, Tommy Gregg, .243, Dale Murphy, .228, Lonnie Smith, .315, Andres Thomas, .213, and Jeff Treadway, .277. I hope we’re not envious of their offensive output by the All-Star Break.

Disappointed Fan

April 26th, 2010
12:39 am

I enjoy watching big league baseball in person and had every intention of going to the Ted this Friday to catch a game in the open air. If they don’t turn their game around in St. Louis, I’m keeping my money. Watching them play on TV for the past few days has been downright annoying, and at this point, I’m not going to care enough to give the team money if they don’t care enough to play.

jcwfalcon

April 26th, 2010
12:43 am

amen disappointed fan. money talks the loudest.

Disappointed Fan

April 26th, 2010
12:46 am

Also, some kind of major shakeup needs to happen, and soon. I don’t know whether it’s trading for a good bat, or if it’s a shakeup in coaches or management, but something must be done. This team lacks a spark — just like last year it was Prado being promoted. I know we’re only about 1/10 of the way through the season, but who wants to see the Braves in the same position last year, where they are fighting with no margin of error after the All-Star break. When the Nationals are playing better ball than you, you know something is wrong.

irishmafia116

April 26th, 2010
12:46 am

Continuing the tradition of second rate teams in a second rate city.

BuckheadBrave

April 26th, 2010
12:50 am

i would be angry over these losses either way but if they looked like they cared or were trying i’d show up at the home games to support their effort, so far they havent given any effort to support.

BuckheadBrave

April 26th, 2010
12:53 am

if its a second rate city irish mafia then leave for the love of god. In case you haven’t noticed our basketball team despite one dissapointing outcome is anything but second rate and we are all damn proud of them here in this “second rate city”

BuckheadBrave

April 26th, 2010
12:54 am

is Chicago second rate? before 2004 neither of their teams had won sh@t since 1907. Where are you from, i bet you came here from up north for our better weather, better jobs, and better women, and now you b*tch about it out of jealousy.

MitchC

April 26th, 2010
12:57 am

The Braves are playing pitfully. The Philles might win the World Series this year, so to lose to them, and guys like Roy Halliday, I understand. To be swept, even on the road, by a team like the Mets, is inexcusable.

Someone posted about the 1989 Braves and their 234 batting average. That year was the year that two Braves future superstars had their first good years. Two gentleman named Mr Smoltz and Mr Glavine. Smoltz was only 12-11 that year, but with a stellar 2.94 ERA. Glavine won 14 games, with a 3.68 ERA, and still had eight losses.

I feel sorry for the Braves starting pitchers. They go out, and give great efforts every night, only to be “rewarded” with no, one, or two runs of run support.

While it’s unlikely that the whole lineup will continue to slump at once, and some hitters will likely come out of it, Wren still needs to get us a bat. I hope he does so soon, before our current last place standing becomes too big of a hole to dig out of

steve h

April 26th, 2010
12:59 am

Your 2010 Bad News Braves complete with the error prone booger eating Tanner Boyle and coach Buttermaker.

This is horrible!!

JohnSmith

April 26th, 2010
1:02 am

Kelly Johnson, Jeff Francouer, Casey Kotchman — all hitting well outside of ATL. Is it wrong of me to feel grateful that, at the very least, Javy Vazquez pitched a crap game for the Yankees today?

Braves One

April 26th, 2010
1:03 am

We have four starters hitting below the “Mendoza Line”…how do we go about signing Mendoza?

The Abs Man

April 26th, 2010
1:04 am

Any doubt whatsoever—Melk-Dud and Glaus right back in lineup in St. Louis?

Any shred of doubt?

The best OF is Nate, Diaz and Haywood. Period.

Nate can field and run and will hit for power, albeit eventually.
Diaz can hit, albeit eventually, and can run and hustles–strange concept to many on this country-club team.
Haywood speaks for himself.

Melky?
Have a nice trip in AAA.

BuckheadBrave

April 26th, 2010
1:06 am

ive never heard of Haywood, is he replacing Jason Heyward? Thank you for confirming to our irish friend our perceived second tier status.

Disappointed Fan

April 26th, 2010
1:06 am

@MitchC — That’s why I don’t like the wins and losses statistics in baseball. It really provides no indication on how well a pitcher is doing, but if you highlight a stat like Quality Starts, that better shows how well our pitchers have been doing. Our SP — well, except for Lowe and one bad outing by JJ — have done a spectacular job, and it’s painful as a fan to see Tommy or JJ go through games giving up 2 ERs or fewer and still be tagged with the loss.

What a terrible experiment Glaus has been. Melky is useless. Chipper is made of glass. Yunel is being absent minded again. Diaz isn’t being true to form. The only relative bright spots in our lineup have been Prado, McCann, and Heyward.

Future Beat Writer/Columnist

April 26th, 2010
1:07 am

DOB, Atlanta is really struggling. The Braves’ bats are colder than the beers in my fridge. But, it’s April. Don’t get me wrong. Those are some ice cold cervezas and losing is always bad. But, it ain’t all doom and gloom so far. Atlanta is getting stellar performances from every pitcher not named Derek Lowe. (JJ had a bad one, but mentioning that weakens my 7th line. So, shhh!!) And, “Wild Bill” Wagner has already gotten his once in awhile blown save out of the way.

Yes, our Braves are currently stuck inside a somber land called loss after loss after lossville. In the past week, they’ve fallen from a 3 way tie for first in the NL East, to last place in the division with an 8-9 record. That puts them 2 games back of WASHINGTON, who is tied with Florida for runner up to Philly. But, this is after 17 scrawny azz games. I’ve adopted the John Kincade (of 680 the fan) theory on the sport. What’s that, you ask. When it comes to Major League Baseball, you really don’t know squat, until the end of May.

Early on, I’ve been a little over zealous in my praise for Jason Heyward. That doesn’t mean the kid won’t be a star. What it does mean, is that I should temper my enthusiasm just a bit. I need to chill with a cold Corona and let things play out on the diamond a little longer, before I crown him the next Henry Aaron. It also means, my fellow Braves fans and I shouldn’t freak out and become frustrated with this team after just 17 games. I don’t like the Troy Glaus experiment at first base, but I’ll give him another month, before I question his presence on the 25 man roster.

I’ve just got to keep telling myself, “It’s a long season, FBW/C. And, all of the Braves’ goals are still in front of them.”

BTW, this game lends some creedence to CCR…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu2pVPWGYMQ

Don’t stop the tomahawk chop ya’ll! Catch up with ya later, DOB and the blog.

Future Beat Writer/Columnist

April 26th, 2010
1:10 am

Sorry if the link didn’t work. Here it is again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu2pVPWGYMQ

If it doesn’t work this time, I’ll quit wasting everybody’s time by attempting to post it.

Theo

April 26th, 2010
1:10 am

Four below .200 is an insult to the Atlanta fans.

It didn’t take TP very long to bring the new guys down. Longer he stay, the worse the guys are gonna perform. By far, the worst hitting coach in the majors.

Booby should have hung em up 3/4 years ago.

Ow! My Oblique!

April 26th, 2010
1:10 am

14 runs in what 9 games now. How does Terry Pendleton still have a job with this club? Still, it would be unfair to place the full blame on T.P. Frank Wren is the definition of someone who has no business being a GM and the ownership is just pathetic. Letting good young players flounder without the benefit of coaching at the big league level and then trading them or letting them walk to other teams where they prosper under good coaching is getting old. How much better would the lineup be producing if Kelly Johnson, Jeff Francouer and Adam LaRoche were still here and producing under good coaching? The idiots who are in charge and that includes the untouchable Bobby Cox need to be held accountable. I know he is gone after this year but who here thinks Wren will just promote Terry Pendleton to the position of manager and we will get stuck with B.S. as we have now. John Schurholtz needs to fire Frank Wren and replace him with a GM that has a clue. Hire a manager that will light a fire under the players and who will bring in coaches that know what they are doing and not just roll over the staff after Bobby is put out to pasture. Get a leadoff hitter with some speed to help manufacture runs. Release Glaus or move him to the bench and promote Freddy Freeman. Cut Melky and promote Gregor Blanco. Trade McClouth for whatever we can get and bring up Joe Thurston. This team needs a shakeup and it needs one now. Also, I don’t know how possible it would be but put a trade package together to get another starter in the outfield like Nick Markakis of Baltimore. I am just so sick of seeing no runs and no fundamentals and players acting like they don’t care. The “Braves” attitude of ho-hum lack of fire and emotion and desire and heart is getting old. Now off my soap box. Ow! My Oblique!

Future Beat Writer/Columnist

April 26th, 2010
1:11 am

Success. See ya’ll later.

sok

April 26th, 2010
1:20 am

How long will they wait on Freeman. He will accidentally hit over 200 and provide major league defense at first. How’s Schafer coming along with his injury.

Legend of Len Barker

April 26th, 2010
1:23 am

Watching tonight’s game, this was the least inspired team I’ve ever seen.

Please don’t compare this club with Braves’ teams of the 1980s. At least those squads had the excuses of lots of young players and marginal talent. This team has only a handful of relatively inexperienced players and has a bunch of players who should be succeeding.

At least the Braves of the 1980s were led by a guy played his heart out and who actually played in every game in Dale Murphy.

Instead of reading Pete Van Wieren’s autobiography after the games, I should have read it during the games. It’s worth the price alone for a line by Steve Bedrosian.

Morgan Spire

April 26th, 2010
1:40 am

I keep reading how losing to the Mets is an embarrassment. Losing to the Braves has been a bigger embarrassment for the past 4 years and is apparently the case for 2010. Braves are not a good team.

A-Ville Ranger

April 26th, 2010
1:41 am

Swept by the mighty Metros, this team is bad.

NO MORE BOBBY

April 26th, 2010
1:45 am

We were all over the bases all night,” Cox said, “just had a tough time getting ‘em in again. But at least we’re getting them on.

Someone explain how this even makes any kind of sense.

gobravos

April 26th, 2010
1:45 am

More errors than runs in a series? Are we like the Montreal Expos now? I’m almost ashamed to wear Braves garb out in public. My brother is a huge Cardinals fan, and I am not looking forward to the verbal abuse I will receive via text messages about my Braves over the next 4 days. Wainwright and Carpenter,Oh MY!

gobravos

April 26th, 2010
1:47 am

It doesn’t make sense NO MORE BOBBY. Its hard to find wisdom at times from a manger who is 1 for 14 in the playoffs. His playoff average reminds of some of our Braves 2010 batting averages.

Tdawg

April 26th, 2010
1:56 am

Man I just got a great idea. Why don’t the pitcher’s all get together, grab some bats, the regulars don’t have a clue as what to do with them and beat the holy crap out of the whole stinking bunch? Just think how much money the braves could save if they were to terminate the contracts of at least half the team. Shoot if I sucked half as much as these guy’s do they’d have my can working the concession stands. Concession stands, hum, that’s an idea. Gnaw they’d wonder off to far and get lost.

willieg hates bill shanks

April 26th, 2010
1:59 am

CAN YOU SAY A NINE GAME LOSING STREAK. WELL THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THEY LEAVE ST LOUIS . DIVISIONS ARE ONE AND LOST IN APRIL ,THE BRAVES AND BOBBY COX HAS BLOWN 2010 SEASON , THE ONLY THING WORKING RIGHT IS THE BULLPEN AND STARTING PITCHING AND GIVE THEM TIME WHEN THE BRAVES SCORE SOME RUNS THE BULLPEN WILL BLOW IT THEY ARE IN LAST PLACE TONIGHT THEY WILL STAY THERE.

willieg hates bill shanks

April 26th, 2010
2:01 am

i dont know whos worse frank wren or liberty media whats sad the owner of the rockies who cares dies young the braves have a bunch of idiots that wont die .

gayle

April 26th, 2010
2:03 am

We’ve all been here before, Braves fans. And in the off season we hear the same nonsense from the front office “Liberty give us free reign and unlimited funds”, “yes Glaus played only 14 games last year, but he looks SOOOO good! ”

Glaus is this year’s Garret Anderson. Hey, where is Garret Anderson? Oh yeah. He’s currently batting .143 with one HR and 4 RBI’s for the Dodgers. A pity. With stats like that, he would be perfect for Bobby’s lineup.

The Wild Card Wonders took about a month to find their way to last place. Start the clock for Opening Day 2011 and hope beyond hope that there is the exorcism of the dugout, front office and the roster. Until then, it is going to be painful to watch.

wayn-o

April 26th, 2010
2:06 am

How about shake things up, like getting rid of Cox now if the ship doesn’t turn around… I bet that will send a message to players!!!

willieg hates bill shanks

April 26th, 2010
2:09 am

LIBERTY MEDIA NEEDS TO SELL THIS TEAM BACK TO TED TURNER OR ARTHUR BLANK.NOW the people are right boycot the games,in atlanta the owners dont want to spend 90 million they want to get cheap players just release chipper,kawakami, derek lowe,keep heyard and mccann and prado send the rest to the minors and bring up aa and truiple aaa players i guarantee they will win more than these players and LIBERTY STINKING MEDIA YOU CAN SAVE YOUR MONEY LIKE YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW INSTEAD OF GETTING TRUE PLAYERS YOU GET FILL INS UNEXCUSEABLE.

Bobbymahlom

April 26th, 2010
2:11 am

Lets try a platoon system at first base with Hinske facing right hand pitching and Glaus facing lefties. Letting somebody rot on the bench who is hitting 200 points higher than the one currently holding down that spot does not make any sense. Lets face it we have a lot more problems than that but that would be a starter. I thought our outfield was bad last year but this one is much worse. I can go along with the rookie and his growing problems but I can’t buy the others namely Nate,Melky and Matt. And for you people who think Blanco would help he is hitting below the Mendozza line in AAA so how is he going to help up here.

willieg hates bill shanks

April 26th, 2010
2:13 am

when you get no hit, and shut out 2times in a week SOME HEADS NEED TO BE ROLLED HERE ,MINOR LEAGUES PERIOD.

Fire TP

April 26th, 2010
2:14 am

Fire TP before it’s too late and we really are out

willieg hates bill shanks

April 26th, 2010
2:16 am

how about fantasy land that is where good things happen ,this team is a horror story period.

alaaandru

April 26th, 2010
2:16 am

The paid announcers have to be rolling their eyes between innings and sweating out the approach they will take on the airwaves–how does one make anything the Braves have done the past week appear even quasi-professional…from the front office down, this organization is failing its fans–the product they are presenting is surprisingly inept in many phases of the game…so spin some positive rhetoric guys and, wrap yourselves around another “plausible” event.

willieg hates bill shanks

April 26th, 2010
2:17 am

fire them all starting with frank wren.

willieg hates bill shanks

April 26th, 2010
2:19 am

FOOTBALL SEASON CANT COME FAST ENOUGH.

willieg hates bill shanks

April 26th, 2010
2:21 am

last placec am i back in atlanta fulton county stadium and its 1975,at least they scored some damn runs.

willieg hates bill shanks

April 26th, 2010
2:23 am

to lose 1-0 to the mets is THERE IS NO WORDS I CAN WRITE that can be printed that decribes this day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jerry

April 26th, 2010
2:29 am

fire TP is exactly right. Kelly Johnson look at what he is doing out of here, and Francouer has also played better since out of here. TP is clueless. How does the man still have a job?? We don’t hit at all and he still has a job. Get him out of here before he screws up Heyward.

alaaandru

April 26th, 2010
2:45 am

Frenchy had abundant “cobwebs” his last few months in Atl., once he rewired his brain, i.e., got north of TP, he now looks like a fairly tough ‘out.’ I recall how silly his at bats were his last few weeks here…missing the ball like a sight impaired middle school athlete–now in NY he may not be the “new Sinatra,” but that beats the swirl of wind he created here with TP.

atlantamelo

April 26th, 2010
3:17 am

For God’s sakes Bravos. Hustle and Concentrate. Bobby is going to take the heat for sticking with y’all, even when the floodgates of experts want y’all benched or shot. Even with the unprecidented lack of hitting, we are only 8-10. Our pitching is stellar. Bobby has seen it all and knows how to look at full recent year numbers for all of you and know that the trends of history will come around and we’ll get back on winning streaks and battle for the division. But for God’s sake hustle and concentrate, that’s the least you could do until the bats come around.

dawgfan13

April 26th, 2010
4:13 am

This team failed to address the batting order in the off season. They traded their best pitcher for a has been outfileder who stinks! They brought in Glaus who stinks. Wren has not made a good decision since he has been GM. I cant understand how a team like the Padres can win 8 games in a row and the Braves cant score more then 2 runs a game. Its sad no one is hitting. Yunel Escobar has to be the dumbest player I have ever seen. Nate Mclouth looks like he is lost at the plate and Chipper Jones is old and trying to hang on to add to his stats for the HOF. We have winning pitching except for Lowe, but this order will have the Braves with a last place finish in the East behind the Nationals. What a Joke!

Die-hard

April 26th, 2010
4:17 am

I was at the game tonight. Been too the majority of ATL/NYM and ATL/NYY games for the past 10 years or so. Interestingly tonight’s game was the first game in years where there was an overwhelming Atlanta fan base in NY at the game. I understand why, but can’t beleive the poor attendence at the Ted year after year.

Anyway, we know that there aren’t going to be any big name additions to this team this year so IMO, as most of you’ve said, fire TP and shake up that line-up! And for once keep it the same for an entire series!!! I wonder (but doubt) if dropping Chip to 6 or 7 would piss him off enough to light a fire under him. Infante needs to be in there hitting leadoff every night, Prado in the 2 spot, McCann in the 3 and after that who cares. Don’t let TP within 50ft of Heyward. Glaus & Melky might as well stay home. Nate and Diaz will both hit, i think….i hope. I have no solution to an evergrowing problem, but the bottom line is as much as I want to win I really wouldn’t mind the losses if anyone looked like they gave a $#!#

terry mcguirk

April 26th, 2010
5:31 am

hey Terry,
How’s that “sweetspot” payroll of 87 million treating you–and us??? Oh I get it, being swept by the Mets is part of your strategy, right?

FranK Wren 2

April 26th, 2010
5:33 am

Troy Glaus, is our 2010 team” Rally Killer”

Dump him before it is too late.

Charlie

April 26th, 2010
6:29 am

Frank Wren is has the brain of a baseball. Troy G. career was over in 2007. Chipper Jones is a physical liability. When he called Bobby Sunday, and told him that “he could go…”, I wish that he would have. Melky doesn’t play to AA level. McLouth was good in Pittsburgh. He’s sucked since last August in Atlanta. The last 4 attempts at throwing out baserunners have ended up in the outfield (McCann & Ross). Yunel, perhaps a return to your nativity would remind you how good you have things here. Perhaps then you would appreciate it, develop a work ethic, and have a sense of responsibility regarding your job. TP talks about depth. THAT he has right. We have the deepest bunch of LOSERS in baseball. This group of 25 major leaguers consists of a very good pitching staff, and 2 hitters, McCann and Prado. Jason H. has spent just enough time around his position-player teammates that he has become a part of the hitting woes.
This team is DONE. Game, set, match. Bye bye, Bobby. Too bad TP and about 9 position players can’t go with you. Maybe the Braves can offer an early retirement package. Most of this team has already retired. They just have not told anyone yet. (’Course to watch them play, that part is obvious to anyone who watches them on the field.)
It’s not yet May, but this team and season is over. When a worthless executive works to the best of his ability what does he assemble? The 2010 Atlanta Braves…

Gray Mule

April 26th, 2010
7:08 am

Why don’t all you posters tell us how you really feel?

Getting beat is terrible, but, getting beat with no hustle stinks.
TP and Bobby may not be doing well but neither are the starting 8.
Pitchers are doing their best without ofensive or defensive help.
Something must change. Hopefully, they will snap out of it.

Gray Mule

GT71

April 26th, 2010
7:10 am

THe Braves had more errors than runs. The Braves hit into more double plays than they had runs.
This issue of the Braves looks to be worse than my low expectations of a 4th place finish.
In a word, they SUCK! And they look bad at even sucking. Some teams suck with emotion, with temper, passion, fire.
These guys simply suck.
Goodbye, Bobby. Please retire, Chipper. Ditto Glaus, McLouth and Cabrera. Diaz, please go home. Prado – as the only real ballplayer on the squad – ask for a trade. Now!

Dejay

April 26th, 2010
7:23 am

Wow. Just wow.

While I’m not ready to call off the 2010 season yet, in the words of former Nets guard Michael Ray Richardson, ‘the ship be sinking’.

This team can pitch but that’s just about it. They can’t hit for power or average, which plays totally against Bobby’s ‘wait on the 3-run homer to bail us out’ script he’s used for the last 20 years. They don’t even have the speed on the basepaths to generate runs, either.

It’s as simple as this; Bill Parcells once said that at some point, you are who you are and the team we’re watching is an 80-win squad AT BEST. While most contending teams made moves to improve their lineups with guys who can still PLAY, our front office went to the recycling bins and 3rd-hand thrift stores around town to pick up players. One would’ve thought they learned their lesson from watching Garret Anderson not care in left field last year. But alas, they thought a 34-year old coming off season-ending shoulder surgery, who spent his entire career at third base, who the Cardinals couldn’t wait to get rid off, would be the ‘big bat’ the Braves have lacked since trading away Teixiera. Right. And they wonder why the stands stay empty? Atlanta sports fans are many things but dumb isn’t one of them.

This is the same front office that traded away arguably their best pitcher last season for a 4th/5th outfielder, a couple of minor leaguers, and a case of Pabst Blue Ribbon. I could care less what he’s not doing in NYC right now; you’re supposed to come back with wayyyyy more than Melky Cabrera, who had the benefit of playing half of his games in a bandbox and having A-Rod, Jeter, and Teixiera in the lineup every day. That’s like the Hawks trading Josh Smith to the Lakers for Shannon Brown and two second-round picks while telling everyone that NOW they’re ready to win an NBA title. It makes no sense.

I know it’s still early but this is where opportunities are won and lost because the last thing you want to do is be 10+ games behind by June, have only 12-15K in the stands, and have Liberty Media sending down orders to pare payroll even more because they’re aren’t enough folks spending $$$ at the Chophouse. But if something isn’t done soon, we might be getting introduced to Jason Heyward’s teammates from the minors real soon….

Mike S

April 26th, 2010
7:27 am

Terry Pendleton needs to go. Kelly Johnson,Jeff Francoeur, even Andruw Jones are all suddenly hitters again and the Atlanta is still the place hitters go to die.

TyCobber

April 26th, 2010
7:27 am

FRANK WREN SUX!

Brave Math Man

April 26th, 2010
7:28 am

Philly magic# 145

alaandru

April 26th, 2010
7:31 am

Also…please have Yunel schedule an appointment 33332222////????? a.s.a.p. It would be beneficial I am sure as he appears to be on the “meltdown trail.”

Tony Oliva

April 26th, 2010
7:40 am

Pretty darn good pitching, but a manager who has assembled the biggest group of half ass coaches one could imagine. Pendleton can’t teach or analyze. Snitker has no situational game awareness.
Glaus, who I don’t like, doesn’t put himself in the lineup, however. That is someone else’s job. Cox’s departure will pump the fans. The players reflect his spirit. The only time he gets spirited is on marginal ump calls…..and none have been changed. Smart use of emotion…..not. Good players have made this player’s manager an all star.

AP

April 26th, 2010
7:40 am

A very bad product! Would not pay to see a professional baseball team who doesn’t play as fundamentally sound baseball as my 12U girls play softball! Bobby Cox should be embarrassed! I am!

aps

April 26th, 2010
7:41 am

This is nothing new folks. 14 division titles with only one World Series. The main reason was and will always be that the Braves NEVER hit the ball and certainly NEVER hit the ball in clutch situations.

JoeFan

April 26th, 2010
7:41 am

Empty seats, maybe that will be enough to force changes. This is a terrible team except for the pitching, excluding Lowe. If you can’t fire most of the position players then ask / tell Bobby that its better to leave now than be embarassed in your last season as manager. Wholesale changes need to be made if that is even possible from the manager on down. Don’t know if players like Freeman are the answer, he is not exactly knocking the cover off the ball at AAA but when players don’t hustle or are way paste their prime then a shakeup is necessary.

Trey

April 26th, 2010
7:43 am

aps, at least the Braves still have been to 14 straight play off seasons.

Phil

April 26th, 2010
7:58 am

Francouer and Kelly Johnson have finally gotten the “TP and Cox disease” out of their system, look at them now.

Wren should be shot for allowing Cox and his gaggle of clowns another year. Nostalgia only gets you so far.

Phil

April 26th, 2010
8:06 am

GT71,
We are stuck with Cox for the rest of the season, nothing will change on that. The day Wren announced that Cox would be back for 2010 I said this season is already down the toilet. Didn’t think it would be this bad or fast, however. With Cox and TP, I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised though.

ExBraves Fan

April 26th, 2010
8:17 am

Another day, another loss. Man, am I GLAD I did not buy those tickets for later this summer that the wife and I discussed. Now we have discussed the beach in Florida instead. So, off too the sand and surf. Forget the crummy Braves for the SEVENTH summer in a row!!!!

hank44

April 26th, 2010
8:26 am

Chipper needs to do the team a favor and raise the white flag. He’s made sooooooooo many errors already and can’t swing the bat without straining his obliques.It’s borderline pathetic. I never thought I would say that, being a Chipper fan through the years, but it is what it is. I had high hopes when the season started,but once again, 3 weeks into the season, I have lost interest. So sad.

Braves fan getting ready to leave

April 26th, 2010
8:28 am

Listen, it doesnt matter. Heres the bottom line. They traded Vazquez the best pitcher last year for a total loser in Milkey, signed a hasbeen for 1st base and are keeping a 097 hitter in center. Diaz has stopped hitting and Chipper cant stay healthy for one series. Like the team of the 90’s, these guys are the team of the 20’s. Only their moto is 1st to worst.

I have never seen a more terrible club and I wont continue to support this club or these players. I have had enough of this. If the Nationals can put a team on the field who can hit, then so can the braves. No not every player needs to be a slugger, but at least cant we get a real 1st baseman who can hit some, or a outfielder who can see the ball.

I wont spend my money or waist my time on this club until the owners and GM decides that it takes real players to get some wins. Not just this year but for years. Remember Jordan-Mondesi? Yes, this has gone on way to long. They wonder why theres no fans in the seats? There was until they stopped putting players on the field.

People can only root for a loser for so long. The Braves and their owners have become a laughing stock of baseball. They are at the bottom tear. They will stay there until they realize it takes real players to compete.

Oh and I do have to say that its quite nice that Cox leaves utility players hitting over 300 sitting on the bench to play bogus players like what we have now. Little leagers play better.

Mark in Woodstock

April 26th, 2010
8:31 am

BuckheadBrave the Chicago White Sox won in 1917….not 1907 before 2005.

tennisbrave

April 26th, 2010
8:33 am

Another great job by GM Wren in the off season bringing a winner to Atlanta. This team can’t hit, field or run the bases. Is Wren getting paid for this? I imagine there will be plenty of empty seats when the Braves return to Atlanta. Who wants to pay major league prices to see this bunch play?

Marc in FL

April 26th, 2010
8:34 am

ExBraves… I live in FL, it is overrated.

I don’t know the cure to this club, but if this pace continues to end of the month I think it’s safe to say changes will start being made. Most teams don’t give up on guys after a couple of bad weeks, which is understandable, but after a month of struggles we’ll see people being moved around. Most teams we’ve been facing have a healthy dose of guys hitting at the Mendoza line as well, so it’s not just us, though we probably are a little worse off.

aps

April 26th, 2010
8:35 am

Trey, I’m sorry I thought teams were judged by CHAMPIONSHIPS. Also, those division titles didn’t mean as much when baseball started the wild-card. Get it? A second place team, after 162 games, could possibly win the World Series. What a joke.

jacket3

April 26th, 2010
8:36 am

I am just amazed at how well the Ex-Braves to with their new teams…..that has happened now for at least 10 seasons….the Bravos get and or keep the rehab guys….and trade the promises.

I do not waste time watching them anymore either in person or on TV.

Yes it is the swansong of Bobby’s last season…so we are going to waste 80 million dollars on a year long birthday party?

Braves fan

April 26th, 2010
8:41 am

Seems to me that when they allow the players like Johnson and Francoeur to leave and get with another coach their problems cease to exist. Why is it that every player who comes here stops hitting. That started with Pendletons arrival and I just dont see why we stay with coaches who cant help the hitters. Yes Pendleton is not the hitter but he is paid to be able to break down a hitter and get his straightened out. IMO, Pendleton cant do that. Hes not a hitting coach. And to be honest, I really dont remember him being that great of a hitter either. Yes he hit but I dont remember him being GREAT.

Don

April 26th, 2010
8:42 am

Even if he could hardly swing a bat, Cox would keep Chipper in the #3 spot in in order – for fear that Chipper would not like him if he moved him down.

Colin

April 26th, 2010
8:43 am

I am going out on a limb here, we are going to lose tonight as well.

Don

April 26th, 2010
8:45 am

Although Chipper has been a great hitter in the past, he has never been a good defensive 3rd baseman. Playing too shallow in unncessary situations cuts down his range significantly and turns what should be outs into base hits. Now his defense is even worse than in the past.

Don

April 26th, 2010
8:46 am

Last night, Bobby Cox had 5 hitters in the lineup hitting below .200. Granted he did not have a logical choice on some of them, but he did on part of them.

Marko

April 26th, 2010
8:48 am

Next week after the Braves win a few games in a row and have a standout performance by someone, everyone will be gusshing on how this teams has no holes in it.

Don

April 26th, 2010
8:49 am

Isn’t it strange that young hitters coming up and other hitter traded to some teams improve on the team as time passes; whereas for the most part, young hitters coming up and other hitters traded to the team get worse playing under Cox and Pendleton.

the glaus is more than half empty

April 26th, 2010
8:50 am

Bobby should take this personally and actually make Wren do his job for once. Glaus, Melky and TP need to be gone by St. Louis. Furcal, Andruw, LaRoche and Andruw are all doing well this year. The common denominator is still in the clubhouse. For the last few years Bobby has been more worried about being liked than winning. IE Norton… Yes pitching wins championships but not when you can’t field a team that bats over 200. Pathetic!

Braves fan too

April 26th, 2010
8:54 am

We have become the new Nationals team. Its a embarrassment just to claim to be a fan. I am outa here. After 3 weeks I have stopped watching and I know they will not get me to the park and I live here. Im just not willing to spend money of this team anymore. Until they spend for REAL players and REAL coaches, my money stays in my pocket and my attention will go to something worth taking in.

Sorry Atlanta braves but your a bunch of losers and so is your owners and your coaches and players. Count me gone for the year. Im going to go root for the Cardinals. At least they attempt to be great.

Phil

April 26th, 2010
8:58 am

half empty,
I would bet the farm that Wren consulted Cox BEFORE acquring Glaus and Melky. And Cox went along with it. Any other manager would have protested against acquiring those two losers. Cox is senile, he didn’t protest at all. So it’s all not Wren, it’s the both of then, Dumb and Dumber.

Phil

April 26th, 2010
9:01 am

Don,
I’m hoping TP is out of here after this season before he ruins Heyward also.

ND

April 26th, 2010
9:05 am

I think maybe a name change might help. How about the Atlanta LOBs or perhaps the Atlanta Ks?

Hitting coaches are a dime a dozen, TP needs to go.

RK

April 26th, 2010
9:07 am

Melky? Told ya’ so. There was nothing in his history to suggest that he should be in the majors.

Phil

April 26th, 2010
9:09 am

Unfortunately, we are stuck with TP for the remainder of this season just like we are stuck with Cox. Neither one is going anyhwhere. The next manager will clean house. Heaven forbid if TP is the next manager though. As dumd as Wren is, it’s a possiblilty.

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