Mazzone misses his old gig with Braves
Leo Mazzone was down in the dugout and on the field for batting practice at a couple of Braves games last week, the first time the longtime former Atlanta pitching coach was on the field for a Braves game since working two of them as a Fox TV analyst in 2008.
Those are the only times he’s been down there for any Braves games since 2005, when he left Atlanta for a three-year, $1.5 million contract with Baltimore that made him the highest paid pitching coach in baseball at that time, and gave him a chance to work with his best friend in baseball, then-Orioles manager Sam Perlozzo. The two grew up together in Maryland.
Perlozzo ended up fired in June 2007, and Leo was fired by new manager Dave Trembley at the end of the season with a year left on his contract. Leo hasn’t coached since, but has said many times that he’d like to.
He’s worked the past year as one of the morning sports-talk hosts on 680 The Fan in Atlanta, which this year became the flagship station of the Braves radio network. Leo will do the radio pregame shows this season, and last week he did a couple of games (680 has sent various on-air talent down this spring to broadcast all the spring games on its main station or two AM sister stations).
I talked to Leo for a while on the field, first to get some stuff about Bobby Cox for something the AJC is doing later on Cox. Then I got talking to him about the current Braves team, its resurgent pitching staff, what he thought about the division this season, that kind of thing.
There were a couple of times where I could hear the emotion in his voice and see it in his face. He took a shot at the Orioles, but only had praise for the Braves and particularly for Cox, whom he worked with for the entire run of 14 consecutive division titles.
The man still misses this badly, that much seemed obvious to me.
So anyway, in place of a usual blog today, since we have a freelancer covering the Braves-Mets game in Port St. Lucie and no one there to blog, I thought I’d share with you the Mazzone interview, what he said (well, except for some of the Cox stuff, which we’re saving for later).
Carroll Rogers covered Georgia Tech in the NCAA tournament, and had a day at home before she heads down to cover Braves for a few days.
I will return to Dark Star this weekend for the final stretch before the Braves break camp and bring the whole thing north. Opening day is less than two weeks away, folks. We’re almost there.
And here’s Leo.
♦ On being down on the field and in the dugout, talking to Cox and others before a Braves game: “You get some mixed emotions. It’s fun to see everybody, and it’s sad that I’m not wearing that uniform. So it’s mixed emotions.”
♦ On the quality of the current pitching staff — starters and relievers — compared to the great ones led by Glavine, Maddux and Smoltz: “It’s getting close. Let me tell you something, that was quite impressive yesterday. When I see the bullpen changing speeds the way they did, and I’ve always felt that if a reliever looks like a starting pitcher when they’re coming into a game, that you’ve got yourself a good reliever. And those guys look like starting pitchers when they come in.”
Mazzone vists Tom Glavine on mound
♦ On the Braves’ chances this season: “There’s no reason why they can’t pull this thing off, maybe win the division. The key to the club is the health of the first baseman [Troy Glaus] and the third baseman [Chipper Jones]. If they can stay healthy, I think there’s a real good chance they can win the division. They can take it away from Philly. Philly doesn’t have the depth and the pitching staff that the Braves do.”
♦ On the Braves’ long run of playoff appearances: “Let me tell you something, that 14 straight, when you’re a part of that, that’s history. I mean … you end up getting very emotional talking about it, to be honest with you.”
♦ On why former Braves pitchers talk about Cox’s importance to their success: “He let them have some input. And the other thing, he made pitchers first-class citizens in spring training. Whereas you go to a lot of organizations –- if someone from another organization would say to me, ‘Let’s get the pitchers over with [in spring training workouts] so we can get them out of the way,’ they’re losing.
“He built spring training around the pitching staff, whereas there’s a lot of organizations that build spring training around getting the pitchers’ done, getting it over with.”
♦ On what made the Braves such a great place for pitchers: “It’s funny. I try to explain that to other organizations, how it was run here and how you get it done, and they don’t want to believe you. ‘What kind of running program did you have?’ I told them, Well they ran out in the outfield, then I told them to add two [sprints] every day, but I wasn’t counting. And they [other teams' officials] say, well what about …
“The other day there was a thing where [former Braves starter Kevin] Millwood, who’s with the Orioles now, said he loved throwing twice in-between starts here [when he was with Atlanta]. Of course Dave Trembley said, ‘Well we’re not going to do that.’ Of course he [Trembley] has had too much success.
“But it’s amazing what people do not want to believe – how this [Braves] operation is run, the way the coaches work… They don’t want to believe that it’s that simple. They think there’s some secret. The secret is that it’s the manager and some good pitchers. And good players. And good coaches.”
♦ On Cox being a manager known for letting his coaches coach: “Oh. When first became a pitching coach, he said, ‘Leo, I don’t care what else you do, just take care of those pitchers. Be with them all the time.’
“And we had some tremendous conversations in the dugout over the years…. We had a lot of fun with Mad Dog [Greg Maddux], trying to figure out things. Bobby goes, ‘Any time he asks me a question, I’m sending him to you.’ He told [Maddux] one time how to get a guy out, and then [Cox] he says to me, ‘If that guy gets a hit on that pitch, I’m gonna shoot myself. Next time I’m sending him to you.’”
♦ On Tom Glavine and John Smoltz doing some broadcasting this season: “You’ve got Smoltzy in the booth, you’ve got Glavine in the booth, and you’ve got Mad Dog in the [Chicago Cubs] front office. I can’t see Mad Dog in a coat and tie. I can see Glavine in one, but not Maddux…. Smoltzy can B.S. his way through. They’ll be good at it, like anything else.”
NO MORE BUFFALO by James McMurtry
I guess we knew the cards were stacked
Started out the best of friends
And we beat that highway ’till it quit beating back
It didn’t mean much in the end
Some you win, some you lose, some you throw away
♦
We headed South across those Colorado plains
Just as empty as the day
We looked around at all we saw
Remembered all we’d hoped to see
Looking out through the bugs on the windshield
Somebody said to me
♦
No more buffalo, blue skies or open road
No more rodeo, no more noise
Take this Cadillac, park it out in back
Mama’s calling, put away the toys
♦
Don’t chase that carrot till it makes you sick
What do you think you’re gonna prove
Kust let it dangle till it falls off that stick
That’s when you make your move
♦
Don’t go chasing after shooting stars
Trying to make yourself a name
You could joust at the windmills with that old Fender guitar
You’d probably do about the same
♦
No more buffalo, blue skies or open road
No more rodeo, no more noise
Take this Cadillac, park it out in back
Mama’s calling, put away the toys
♦
I never thought they’d ever doubt my words
I guess they were just too tired to care
I’d point to the horizon, to the dust of the herds
Still hovering in the air
Somebody said it ain’t any such
Man you wish so hard you’re scaring me
♦
‘Cause those are combines kicking up that dust
But I guess you can see what you want to see
You can keep on chasing what used to be there
Top that rise and face the pain
But man they were here, they were here I swear
Not just these bleaching bones stretching across the plain
♦
No more buffalo, blue skies or open road
No more rodeo, no more noise
Take this Cadillac, park it out in back
Mama’s calling, put away the toys
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995 comments Add your comment
SoCal MOM
March 23rd, 2010
12:47 pm
DOB–Who is schedule to pitch after Hanson
sidslidkid
March 23rd, 2010
12:49 pm
Awesome. Thanks DOB!
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
12:54 pm
Jose Reyes to resume playing activities. I thought he was supposed to be out for awhile
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AlfPMhhXqXV3sXaMTuUcY0c5nYcB?slug=ap-mets-reyes
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
12:54 pm
Turd, I mean third.
Yurtle_the_turtle
March 23rd, 2010
12:55 pm
So Leo thinks the Braves can top the Phillies? So what? He ALWAYS says that, so this is no news. Hell, the Braves could trot out the Class-A affiliate for the year and Mazzone would say they should win their conference..Can’t stand rose- colored glasses.
bravesgrl4life
March 23rd, 2010
12:56 pm
Is anybody going to get to watch today and do PBP?
whensidslid92
March 23rd, 2010
12:57 pm
DOB–When can we expect this Bobby article? Don’t want to miss that…
Renegator
March 23rd, 2010
12:59 pm
You can’t trust what Leo says – he is the definition of a homer.
whensidslid92
March 23rd, 2010
12:59 pm
why isn’t this game on espn360? Tomorrow’s game is on there, but not today’s? What’s the difference? Anywhere else to watch online?
O.J.
March 23rd, 2010
1:00 pm
The game is on this http://www.p2p4u.net/watch/14560/1/watch-atlanta-braves-vs–new-york-mets.html
pryguy
March 23rd, 2010
1:02 pm
Wow, can’t wait to watch the Braves on ESPN…. first look at some of these dudes.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:03 pm
Is today going to be a real game or a spring training type game?
whensidslid92
March 23rd, 2010
1:03 pm
Thanks juiceman
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
1:04 pm
Can someone do PBP today? Stuck at work per the usual.
fleming
March 23rd, 2010
1:04 pm
Unless they starting the season early I would assume that it is a spring training game
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
1:04 pm
Hey, a lot of people, not just homers, are saying the Braves can top the Phillies this year.
O.J.
March 23rd, 2010
1:04 pm
No Problem, credit goes to someone on the other blog for me, lol
FEAR
March 23rd, 2010
1:05 pm
yeah um if ya do PBP. I will give ya a dollar.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:05 pm
turle-
nobody is saying that Leo Mazzone has determined the braves fate this season, we know its not “news”…its blog entertainment, its good to hear from a guy that gave the organization a lot of really good years, good to hear the he misses it…give him some credit for retaining some loyalty to the organization, and let him build it up a little in a freakin spring interview…relax dude.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:05 pm
Just FYI – there is really slow delayed play-by-play here as well. Usually updates after each half of the inning. Not the greatest but it does have a box score as well.
http://m.mlb.com/2010_03_23_atlmlb_nynmlb_1/
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:06 pm
You should expect a package by week’s end with your 2nd Wurlitzer. No ears, but it’s autographed. Lew
Ooh! I can’t wait! I had actually been going to my mailbox every day looking for it…and will continue to do so until it arrives!
pryguy
March 23rd, 2010
1:07 pm
Joeinrochester, I’ll try my best for as long as I can…been up since 6:45 so I may start to snooze.
JTH
March 23rd, 2010
1:07 pm
Leo Mazzone had the easiest job in the world. You could have put nearly anyone in his spot and there would have been no difference. Right place, right time. 3 Cy Young winners and guaranteed first ballot HoFers makes your job easy.
It’s when things got tough (Russ Ortiz as your ace for example) Mazzone bailed on the Braves and now realises what a huge mistake that was.
Sorry Leo, your sucking up to the team and fans will do you no good now.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:07 pm
Ok, we’ll get PBP done for those slckers who are at work…
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
1:08 pm
No problem. I appreciate everyone who does.
GoBraves123
March 23rd, 2010
1:08 pm
John Miller, Joe Morgan, and Orel Hershieser (sp?) doing broadcast today…..oh brother
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
1:08 pm
joerochester, I’ll try. Man, I just don’t know how long I’ll be with a tv, but I’ll try.
Venice Jim
March 23rd, 2010
1:09 pm
I finally got to listen to DOB’s interview – wow, I feel like a celebrity now, even if he didn’t mention our names…the part about the Braves was great, too…
David O'Brien
March 23rd, 2010
1:09 pm
Is today going to be a real game or a spring training type game? — MFin04
Real season starts April 5. That’s when you’ll see real games. When the results count for something. These are glorified workouts, for all intents and purposes.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
1:09 pm
I only like important play by play. Not “Hanson throws a ball in the dirt, 2-1″
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
1:09 pm
joerochester, How bout they give PBP while I give a spin on it?
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
1:09 pm
Interesting lineup. No Jason Heyward and Nate McLouth batting 8th.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:10 pm
MLBTV has the Mets broadcasters…they can be pretty bad at times, but usually compliment other teams players, so that funny.
The ESPN team is terrible though. I wonder if Logan Schafer is going to be playing today?
PMC
March 23rd, 2010
1:10 pm
Yeah but…. When has Leo NOT liked the Braves chances EVER???
pryguy
March 23rd, 2010
1:10 pm
Melky bounces single up the middle.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
1:10 pm
Seriously, I need to hear this interview when I get home. I’m expecting it to be so beautiful that I should weep by the time it’s over.
Lunatic Fringe
March 23rd, 2010
1:10 pm
I am stuck at work as well, and the link to the internet site is blocked, so thanks in advance for the PBP
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:11 pm
DOB…i always think the phrase “intents and purposes” is “intensive purposes” for some reason. thanks for clearing that up for me today.
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
1:11 pm
Just listened to DOB’s interview from sunday- loved the mention of the guy that moved to California…
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:11 pm
I feel like a celebrity now
Oh, you are Venice Jim. Next thing you know, they’ll be making a movie about y’all. It’ll be a bestseller!
Well…I’d watch it, anyways!
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
1:11 pm
thanks pryguy.
Guys
I don’t mean literal play by play… just when something happens like an out, hit, etc. I don’t need pitch by pitch, haha.
PMC
March 23rd, 2010
1:11 pm
Here’s hoping someone hires Leo to COACH. I mean why not?
Goonies 2 Dang It!
March 23rd, 2010
1:11 pm
wish mcdowell would get fired and leo would get back in the saddle again:)
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
1:12 pm
Melky lead off single up the middle
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
1:12 pm
I’d watch it too. But only if I could be an extra
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
1:12 pm
I don’t see Perez being all that good again for the Mets, but if he does throw K’s with the deception in his delivery then he could be very good. I think he’s just a headcase though– from things I’ve read on him anyways.
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
1:13 pm
Prado double down 3b line. 2nd and 3rd no out.
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
1:13 pm
Jeffrey-
Of course you could be an extra! We would need bloggers after all…
pryguy
March 23rd, 2010
1:13 pm
Prado works count 2-2……….
Hits one down the line, Prado doubles, Melk-man goes to third.
Prado is a good hitter at the top of the lineup
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:13 pm
Oliver Perez, worst contract in baseball, in midseason form today!
Mekons
March 23rd, 2010
1:13 pm
Martin was on that inside pitch like a wolf on a lambchop.
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
1:13 pm
Prado SMOKED a double just now!
Snotboogie
March 23rd, 2010
1:13 pm
DOB
I cant believe you are blogging and answering questions on your day off. Hats-off to you.
People need to realize that DOB is off today and might not have as much info as usual. So i say, follow ESPN and take the info as it comes.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:14 pm
nice prado…wonder if nate is getting some AB’s elsewhere again? he needs all the plate appearances he can get right now doesn’t he…
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
1:14 pm
Who’s pitching for the Mets?
CB
March 23rd, 2010
1:14 pm
jeffrey, we only weep when we have an accident and read PL’s “postings”.
Greg in TN
March 23rd, 2010
1:14 pm
Afternoon folks…
Couple quick thoughts before the Braves and mets tee things up. DOB, listened to the interview on the ABT podcast, well played sir.
At the time Mazzone left to go to the O’s, I was happy for him seeing that he was long time friends with Sam Perlozzo and was hoping for the best for him, however I can’t say I’m surprised with how badly it ended up just because I feel Peter Angelos is a train wreck as an owner. Having said that, I’m very happy with the performance that Roger McDowell has turned in as pitching coach. It stinks that it didn’t work out for Leo, but I am sure he knew what he was getting into by going to Baltimore. Hopefully he’ll have a chance to get back into the game somewhere down the road. I really feel for the guy.
Thanks for posting his thoughts, DOB.
Now, bring on the mets…
buzzmeat
March 23rd, 2010
1:14 pm
Cant wait till opening day!!!!
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:14 pm
Melky Cabrera is a pretty fat quick guy isn’t he?
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
1:14 pm
I’m talking about an extra for the car chase or helicopter shooting scene
FEAR
March 23rd, 2010
1:14 pm
thanks pals. I’m donating your dollars to the Human Fund
O.J.
March 23rd, 2010
1:14 pm
well, apparently that video feed doesnt work that I posted. Sucks
pryguy
March 23rd, 2010
1:15 pm
Chipper drives one to right, Melky tags to make it Braves 1-0
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:15 pm
Prado proves Kelly Johnson fans everywhere wrong.
Signed, the Assistant to the Vice President of the Kelly Johnson Fan Club’s Assistant
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
1:15 pm
Chipper Sac fly shy of RF track. Run scores, Prado to 3rd.
shmoe
March 23rd, 2010
1:15 pm
time for a glaus homer
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:15 pm
how old is Leo?…if he wants to coach again, he better get started…
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:15 pm
Great at bat by Chipper though, moved both runners over.
abwright
March 23rd, 2010
1:15 pm
As Chipper knocks in a sac fly that moves Prado to third, Joe Morgan mentions that “at least Oliver Perez is throwing strikes.”
McCann Fan
March 23rd, 2010
1:16 pm
DOB,
What’s with Heyward not playing today? Didn’t he essentially just have two days off in a row?
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
1:16 pm
Right-handed hitters had a 1.029 OPS against Perez last year. So basically, righties were somewhere between Hank Greenberg and Jimmie Foxx against Perez.
sidslidkid
March 23rd, 2010
1:16 pm
Love that Chipper Jones.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:16 pm
which side was chip swingin from? i can’t remember if Perez is lefty or righty…wanna say lefty…?
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:16 pm
wonder if nate is getting some AB’s elsewhere again?
If by “elsewhere” you mean “Port St. Lucy,” then yes…
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
1:17 pm
Prado proves Kelly Johnson fans everywhere wrong.
I never said that Prado sucked, I said that KJ is a lot better than he played last year and a lot of people gave up on him too soon (it wasn’t his fault he was continually thrown into the leadoff spot)
Good Will Hunting
March 23rd, 2010
1:17 pm
Just listened to DOB’s interview from sunday- loved the mention of the guy that moved to California…
Just wondering if before Vinings Jim left to go become Venice Jim in California, if he stopped by DOB’s house, and left a note that said:
“David, if the editor calls about that job, just tell him, sorry, I have to go see about a girl.”
To which DOB, of course, replied: “Son of a bitch… He stole my line.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoPT4p1Iwg4
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
1:17 pm
Looks like Chip is back to form this season.
Greg
March 23rd, 2010
1:17 pm
JTH – were Glavine and Smoltz Cy winners before Leo got there? You do realize he coached those guys in the minors too, right? They weren’t established pitchers when he took over…
I’ll give you Maddux…but in addition to Smoltz and Glavine, you had randoms like Steve Avery, John Burkett, Jaret Wright, Charlie Liebrandt, and your aforementioned Russ Ortiz, all having very productive years under Leo.
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
1:17 pm
ESPN just put up a list of both key Braves addictions and losses. Kelly Johnson was noticeably absent from the key losses column.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
1:18 pm
Perez is a lefty, so Chipper’s batting righty
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
1:18 pm
Kelly Johnson will be a great value for the D-Backs this year. We have Prado, who is very good, so everybody should be happy.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:18 pm
roman gal-
by elsewhere i mean that somebody earlier said he wasn’t in the lineup, and i was wondering why…
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
1:18 pm
Glaus had some good cuts, but struck out on 3-2 count.
pryguy
March 23rd, 2010
1:18 pm
Glaus is a freakin big dude.
Regardless, he K’s, brings up Mac
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
1:19 pm
PL – what were some of the Braves’ listed addictions?
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:19 pm
so chipper drove the ball oppo….nice
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
1:19 pm
I get the feeling the ESPN announcers are rootin’ for Perez here. Could be wrong, but seems that way.
fsuseminoles
March 23rd, 2010
1:19 pm
does anyone else have the feeling Leo is dying to become the manager of the Braves
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:19 pm
I never said that Prado sucked
Me neither. But I did always think KJ was better…
[sigh] I miss KJ.
Frank Robinson (Rockmart)
March 23rd, 2010
1:20 pm
MFin04 – The video link isn’t working
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:20 pm
jeff blauser-
McLouth’s in the lineup. I think he’s hitting 8th.
Rodney
March 23rd, 2010
1:20 pm
The Phillies are 8-10 games better than the Braves. I don’t see the Braves challenging the Phillies.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:20 pm
u seriously think KJ was better than Prado?
fsuseminoles
March 23rd, 2010
1:21 pm
anyone heard who Sheffield talking to in the NL
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:21 pm
roman-
ok thanks…somebody said he was not, but obviously they were wrong.
Snotboogie
March 23rd, 2010
1:21 pm
Also missing from the list was Adam Laroche- thought he was much more key to the 2nd half success than Garret Anderson (who was on the list).
timthebrave
March 23rd, 2010
1:21 pm
DOB, thanks for the new blog. Of course Leo Mazzone is a little bit of a homer. All true fans are but he is right in saying that we have more depth in our pitching staff and could win it if we stay healthy. That’s what I see as well. Go Braves. Can’t wait for season to start
Escobart Simpson
March 23rd, 2010
1:21 pm
Working link:
http://p2p4u.net/watch/14586/1/watch-espn-america.html
pryguy
March 23rd, 2010
1:21 pm
Mac grounds to 1st, end of the 1st.
Mark Biles
March 23rd, 2010
1:21 pm
If Mazzone missing being Braves pitching coach so much, why did he leave us and go to the Orioles in the first place?
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
1:22 pm
McCann bounces out to 1st. 1-0. End of Top 1.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:22 pm
I’ll let you know if that link starts working. I’m currently watching on MLBTV, but I have that link up and running.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
1:22 pm
[sigh] I miss KJ.
[sigh] Me too.
whensidslid92
March 23rd, 2010
1:22 pm
anyone else got a live online feed?
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
1:22 pm
jeffrey d…….key addictions listed were Melky, Wagner, Glaus, and and Saito. Key losses were Garret, Mike Gonzales, Soriano and Vazquez.
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
1:22 pm
Perez had an amazing lefty-righty split last year…pretty much unheard of for a starting pitcher. Right handers were Jimmie Foxx, left handers were Rafael Belliard.
shmoe
March 23rd, 2010
1:23 pm
Mark Biles….maybe he was was granted an ‘honorable’ discharge
Snotboogie
March 23rd, 2010
1:23 pm
Commentary team discussing the “best hitting catcher” tag for McCann had to concede that Mauer is arguably better.
Mixxo
March 23rd, 2010
1:23 pm
Nice interview Boss. I kinda miss Rockin’ Leo too.
pryguy
March 23rd, 2010
1:23 pm
Rodney,
On what grounds do you assume the Phils are 8-10 games better? I’d love to hear your reasoning. Better yet, I’d love to understand the heavy researched method you used to come up with such figures.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:23 pm
u seriously
thinkthought KJ was better than Prado?I don’t want to get into it. It’s still a sore subject. In fact, if I start getting into it, I’ll start resenting Prado again.
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
1:23 pm
Jeffrey D-
I don’t seem to recall a car chase or helicopters, but I suppose we could use our creative license…
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
1:24 pm
I hope the Braves don’t get too addicted to Wagner, Glaus, and Saito. What if they get hurt?
shmoe
March 23rd, 2010
1:24 pm
cant wait to see Hanson dominate the Mets 3-7 hitters
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
1:25 pm
Cora flies to RF.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:25 pm
mark biles-
did you read the part about him wanting to coach alongside his best friend in baseball whom he had known for quite a while? I’d say he left because he thought it would work out better than it did.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
1:26 pm
I know it doesn’t mean much because it’s spring training, but the Braves have the highest differential of runs scored vs runs allowed in the Grapefruit league. (+20).
eltrompo says, "J-Hey, where strikeouts go to die."
March 23rd, 2010
1:26 pm
It feels like ST has consisted of the Braves vs. Mets…. Anyone else feel the same?
VP
March 23rd, 2010
1:26 pm
Can somebody tell me why in the blue hell did Heyward get a day off today of all days? Come on Bobby, those of us in the A-town were dying to see him.
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
1:27 pm
Castillo Ks looking on heat.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:27 pm
We would need bloggers after all… cab
Yes! Mmm…who would I play? I think I want to play the part of Paulie Dentz!
VP
March 23rd, 2010
1:27 pm
Hanson K’s castillo’s ass.
someguy
March 23rd, 2010
1:27 pm
check back tomorrow or friday – they are going to be on ESPN those days too.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:27 pm
joe-
it probly doesn’t mean much, but its still good to know…encouraging that they’re scoring
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:28 pm
http://www.p2p4u.net/watch/14560/1/watch-atlanta-braves-vs–new-york-mets.html
Ok, it is now working. Its the ESPN feed. Have to install a plug-in though. Takes like 2-3 minutes.
pryguy
March 23rd, 2010
1:28 pm
Hanson strikes out castillo…2 down
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
1:28 pm
Bottoms can hardly hold a bat, let alone swing one
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
1:28 pm
David (MVP, Gold Glove, Silver Slugger, face of NY) Wright grounds weakly to 3rd. 3 up 3 down.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:28 pm
Chipper flashin’ the leather.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
1:28 pm
Wright ground ball to third.
pryguy
March 23rd, 2010
1:28 pm
Wright grounds out to Chipper, quick inning for Tommy
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
1:28 pm
VP, the Braves will be on ESPN again tomorrow and Friday. I’m sure you’ll catch Heyward in one or both.
shmoe
March 23rd, 2010
1:28 pm
hanson makes cake out of their hitters. haha, chipper almost booted that grounder
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
1:29 pm
You see that 94 mph heater on the outside corner from Hanson?
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
1:30 pm
Roman Gal……..your resentment is misguided. If Kelly didnt SUCK so much, Prado never would have had an opportunity to unseat Kelly at second.
My question to you is this: Where does your allegiance lie first? The Braves team or individual players? My reasoning is that if one is truly a BRAVES FAN first and foremost, then one would want to see the players out on the field who gives us a best chance to win.
Prado and Diaz’s emergence helped kick start the Braves offense in the 2nd half of the last season. Sure, I maybe understand you taking a liking to Kelly. However, do you want your desire to see Kelly given chance after chance to SUCK override your desire to see the Braves win?
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:30 pm
This Mets lineup looks like it could score 8 runs off of Derek Lowe.
Mekons
March 23rd, 2010
1:31 pm
Nice inning for Tommy.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:31 pm
so did chipper flash the leather, or almost boot it? (i’m at work, therefore not watching)
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
1:31 pm
RG-
Really? I’m sure we could find a better role for you (plus, I think you may need to fight Tom for that part
)
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
1:32 pm
Diaz is one of the top five hitters in the majors against lefties. Perez is probably the worst pitcher in baseball against righties. What do you think will happen?
VP
March 23rd, 2010
1:32 pm
diaz flies out
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:32 pm
Matty Diaz almost going yard. Nice gust of wind there.
Knowitall
March 23rd, 2010
1:32 pm
If Jeffrey D is in the movie then I want a role as well. I can be Jack Bauer’s protege………
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:33 pm
Joe Morgan tooting his own horn.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
1:33 pm
Mclouth singles to center!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:33 pm
THATABOY NATE!!!!!! WOOHOOO!!!!!
pryguy
March 23rd, 2010
1:33 pm
THERE WE GO NATE!
bravefaninok
March 23rd, 2010
1:33 pm
Nate gets a solid single up the middle
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
1:33 pm
Well there ya go Nate
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
1:33 pm
Just goes to show, even if you hit .400 against someone, you’re still gonna be out more times than not.
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
1:33 pm
Oliver Perez is the perfect cure for one’s slump. Nice rip Nate.
Escobart Simpson
March 23rd, 2010
1:33 pm
Beautiful swing, McLouth.
GoBraves123
March 23rd, 2010
1:33 pm
Nate got a hit!!!
Nova Scotia Steve
March 23rd, 2010
1:33 pm
Nate looked good on that swing
JTH
March 23rd, 2010
1:33 pm
McOut didnt get out!
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
1:33 pm
All right Nate!
Saff
March 23rd, 2010
1:34 pm
Great to see Nate get a hit. That wasn’t a cheapy either he hit a solid line drive.
Mixxo
March 23rd, 2010
1:34 pm
Nate heatin’ up!
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
1:34 pm
LOL…it’s like he just hit a walkoff homer or something….
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:34 pm
woooohoooo Nate….thank you Oliver Perez for being so terrible.
Nova Scotia Steve
March 23rd, 2010
1:34 pm
I would be happy if Hanson just stood in the batter’s box and not move
JTH
March 23rd, 2010
1:35 pm
McLouth is ready. Start the season now.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
1:35 pm
Hanson struck otu
eltrompo says, "J-Hey, where strikeouts go to die."
March 23rd, 2010
1:35 pm
Stop the presses! Nate has a hit!
I’m glad, hopefully this gets him propelled in the right direction.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:35 pm
Mets announcers said Schafer is going to play today…interesting. Didn’t know that.
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
1:35 pm
Nice to see Francoeur tearing it up with the .194 batting average.
Snotboogie
March 23rd, 2010
1:36 pm
Alright – Nate going to get 3 hits today – mark it down!!
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
1:36 pm
LOL.. so Franceour isn’t doing too great either?
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:37 pm
Mets announcers said Schafer is going to play today…interesting.
Really?! They weren’t just trying to get our hopes up, were they?
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:37 pm
this time last yr francoeur was swattin’ singles all over the place and we were all excited that he’d hit really well.
eltrompo says, "J-Hey, where strikeouts go to die."
March 23rd, 2010
1:37 pm
MFin04- did they really say that about Schafer? That will be cool!
Tim Tebow's Tears
March 23rd, 2010
1:37 pm
Hell just froze over with a hit from McLouth
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:38 pm
i’d love it if schafer got in there today
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:38 pm
Lol, I dunno, they are the Mets announcers. They still think Beltran and Reyes are going to return from their injuries.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
1:38 pm
That was nasty curve for strike 2
shmoe
March 23rd, 2010
1:38 pm
nasttttty hammer from hanson
JTH
March 23rd, 2010
1:38 pm
This blog is on fire for a spring training game. Awesome. Get a job people
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:39 pm
hopefully mclouth will get going and everyone from the blog who has been trashing him will let up a little and realize that a guy doesn’t go from hitting .260 to .031 over the span of one offseason. he’s a solid player, not a superstar, but a solid player who does a lot of things well.
jake7
March 23rd, 2010
1:40 pm
Leo needs to get over the O’s thing. We get it, they stink and you can’t stand them. Come on Leo, lighten up, enjoy the free paycheck and move on.
FEAR
March 23rd, 2010
1:40 pm
nate got a hit? man I’m gonna play the lotto tonight!
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:40 pm
JTH-
thats just it…we have jobs….and were at those jobs…and were bored…and baseball is on…and the season is about to start…
ABTSteve
March 23rd, 2010
1:40 pm
Thanks for all the mentions about the DOB interview. I posted about it last night, but wanted to make sure all of the daytime people saw it as well (this will be the last spam, I promise). DOB spends a lot of time talking about the blog as well great stuff about the 2010 team. You can listen here. Thanks.
Josh H
March 23rd, 2010
1:40 pm
JTH:
Most of us have jobs…
civilized white trash
March 23rd, 2010
1:40 pm
are you sure they said schafer i am sure they said heyward
Frank Robinson (Rockmart)
March 23rd, 2010
1:40 pm
Oh boy! Here goes Joe Morgan. It’s more important for Jason Bay to just put the ball in play with a runner on third than for him to reach 100 RBI’s. Yeah, that will actually be key in helping the Braves get to the playoffs!
Mazzo-Less
March 23rd, 2010
1:41 pm
Mazonne Blew it…a chance to be part of a real good pitching staff and overall very good team….they just might be the ones to beat this year……Leo….after Bobby goes out a winner you guys will have plenty of time to fish together….taking the money and running off to Baltimore wasn’t the right thing to do…it probably won’t be your last mistake in life………so go cry in your beer…………
Tim B.
March 23rd, 2010
1:42 pm
Am I the only one that thinks Greg Madux would be a great replacement for Bobby Cox when he retires? The guy is so baseball smart and everyone loves him. I say we make him the coach and let Smoltz or Glavin be the pitching coach. With a good front office, we would go on to win another 14 strait.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
1:42 pm
Jeff Stincouer at the plate now.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
1:42 pm
Did the last batter strike out?
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
1:42 pm
Daniel Murphy is a good hitter, just not what that Mutt troll kept spewing all over this place about a year ago. Remember that? DOB got back at him good though.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:42 pm
joe morgan’s commentary is very unhealthy listening for anyone with half a baseball brain. he makes chip caray look like skip caray.
JTH
March 23rd, 2010
1:42 pm
jeff “see through” blauser-
I hear ya brother. I need a job myself to be bored with.
ATXRainDog
March 23rd, 2010
1:43 pm
I really wish FireJoeMorgan was still up and running. *sigh* Those guys were the best.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:44 pm
Tim B.-
i think Mad dog is being groomed to hang around the Cubs organization for quite a while…i’d love to see him in almost any capacity with the braves organization though.
shmoe
March 23rd, 2010
1:44 pm
wow frenchy with a tough AB
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:44 pm
JTH-
is that a reference to my fair complexion?
JTH
March 23rd, 2010
1:44 pm
Hey Skip, long time listener, first time caller. Could you explain how to calculate E.R.A. ?
VP
March 23rd, 2010
1:45 pm
Come on Tommy, a walk to the strike out machine?
shmoe
March 23rd, 2010
1:45 pm
r u kiddin me?
Leo Blows
March 23rd, 2010
1:45 pm
LEO MAZZONE IS A FLIPPIN MORON!!! I CAN’T STAND LISTENING TO HIM ON 680 IN THE MORNING!!! HE IS A HAS BEEN PITCHING COACH AND HIS PERSONALITY IS THAT OF AN ORANGE. HIS FORMER PLAYERS THINK HE IS A TOOL AS WELL, CONFIRMED. I WISH HE WOULD GO COACH IN JAPAN SO WE WOULDN’T HAVE TO HEAR HIS VOICE ANYMORE!
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:45 pm
Get a job people
Hey! I have a job…it just so happens that I only have to work on Wednesdays.
Runnin
March 23rd, 2010
1:45 pm
Bwahahhaha, run Jeff run
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
1:45 pm
Francouer walked. NOW the percentages are in favor of a lottery win or something. Nate gets a hit and Frenchy walks in the SAME INNING.
JTH
March 23rd, 2010
1:46 pm
blauser- naw heard Chris Berman call him that one time. Thought it was funny
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
1:46 pm
VP
I like your editorial comments.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:46 pm
a very merciful gesture by tommy to put francoeur on…he figures he’ll strike him out plenty when the season starts, wanted to know what it would feel like to walk him once.
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
1:47 pm
Spam us anytime, ABTSteve.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:47 pm
Oh, come on Frenchy!
You know you want to see if you can beat McCann’s throw…
ATXRainDog
March 23rd, 2010
1:47 pm
@Leo Blows
Come on now… oranges have all kinds of personality.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
1:47 pm
Didn’t Glaus wear #8 at his intro, now he has 25 on??????
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
1:49 pm
Matthews rips a single to RF. First really well hit ball for Mets. 1st and 3rd 2 outs.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:50 pm
i find it hard to believe Mazzone’s former players think he’s a tool…however, i have no doubt his personality sucks…probably made him a good pitching coach.
WMD
March 23rd, 2010
1:50 pm
I would rather have the three stooges calling the game than these three idiots on espn.
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
1:51 pm
Barajas flies to rf. no damage. end of 2. 1-0 braves.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
1:51 pm
Really?! They weren’t just trying to get our hopes up, were they?
Roman Gal – I like that we have the same taste in hopeless(ish) players. Schafer, KJ…
louis prima
March 23rd, 2010
1:51 pm
Leo’s a Braves icon who’s lost on the 680 morning show…especially when he’s talking about anything other than baseball. I hope he’ll have a chance to get back in the real game some day.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:51 pm
its crazy to me that ESPN, the apex of sports coverage, has the worst possible baseball commentators.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
1:51 pm
Hey! I have a job…it just so happens that I only have to work on Wednesdays.
You’re never going to keep up with Mauer working one day a week
bobby mizelle
March 23rd, 2010
1:52 pm
Sat with Mazzone and his girlfriend at a Hall of Fame luncheon. He ignored everyone at the table but his girlfriend. He was a complete jerk. Lost all respect for Mazzone.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
1:53 pm
I think Jon Miller is good. He just needs to learn how to dress better.
Leo Blows
March 23rd, 2010
1:53 pm
“Leo’s a Braves icon who’s lost on the 680 morning show”
^That
Get him outta here!
JTH
March 23rd, 2010
1:53 pm
louis I’m actually surprised Leo isnt on a team. You would think that a lot of teams need experienced coaching. Maybe he doesnt want to and is enjoying being part of the media.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:54 pm
atleast steve phillips is gone away
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:55 pm
I think Braves fans are going to be pleasantly surprised by Melky Cabrera.
JTH
March 23rd, 2010
1:55 pm
There were no tears shed from Cox or any of the players when Mazzone left. That was even reported here back when he left.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:55 pm
I like that we have the same taste in hopeless(ish) players. jeffrey d
Oh, no! Don’t even go there with Schafer. He is NOThopeless(ish). He’s just injured.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:55 pm
JTH- i agree, you would think he would have had some offers to coach…
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
1:55 pm
Melky lead off walk. Up twice, on twice.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
1:56 pm
Melky keeps impressing me this spring.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
1:56 pm
You would think that a lot of teams need experienced coaching. Maybe he doesnt want to and is enjoying being part of the media
Maybe he’s just waiting for the right team and doesn’t want to play for someone like the Nats
chip carey's eyebrows
March 23rd, 2010
1:56 pm
It’s too easy to say that it’s been 4 years since Leo left, and it’s been 4 years since the Braves won a division. It’s also true. I think his impact has been minimized (especially by the Braves front office) but at the same time he made his own bed by leaving. I do wish he would replace McDowell. What has McDowell done?
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:56 pm
i’ve already been pleasantly surprised by cabrera, and i was not one of the ones crying when we got him in the trade
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
1:56 pm
Prado pops up.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
1:56 pm
Prado pops out.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:57 pm
You’re never going to keep up with Mauer working one day a week
Yeah, Mauer earns my average salary in .01 innings. But to be fair, I work really hard…for at least 1/2 the time I’m at work.
T for Texas
March 23rd, 2010
1:57 pm
Everyone talks about Melky being a “serviceable fourth outfielder.” I don’t see it. Dude looks like a good every day guy to me.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:58 pm
One good thing about the Mets Coverage is that it actually shows the baseball game, ESPN just shows interviews and you miss the whole game.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
1:58 pm
Chipper just missed a HR. Foul ball.
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
1:58 pm
Chipper just misses HR foul down RF line (batting right).
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:58 pm
chip-
i don’t think any of us can really know for sure what mcdowell has actually done, but i don’t have any issue with him…what do you think he’s done wrong?
VP
March 23rd, 2010
1:59 pm
Chipper singles and cabrera gunned down at third.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
1:59 pm
do work chipper…i hope he tears it up this year
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
1:59 pm
That was a good play by the Mets to get Melky there. If there’s one thing French Fry can do well, it’s throw.
Kelly's Johnson
March 23rd, 2010
1:59 pm
Even I admit I SUCK !!!!
Who else but Bobby Cox would let a .216 hitter start at second?
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
1:59 pm
Melky pulls a Yunel Escobar.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
1:59 pm
He is NOThopeless(ish).
I know…I wouldn’t like him if he was. But a lot of people have written him off/forgotten about him when he’s one of my favorites and I’m looking forward to him being in the outfield for awhile.
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
1:59 pm
Chipper “fists” a single to right (credit to Chip Caray). But Melky thrown out trying to get to 3rd.
ATXRainDog
March 23rd, 2010
1:59 pm
DOB:
Not sure if you’re checking in on the blogizens today, but we just finished up a pretty amazing SXSW down in the ATX. Had the chance to see Ray Davies do a solo set which would’ve been awesome in and of itself. But then he pulled out this group The 88 (which played before him) and they blasted through a bunch of Kinks/Jam tunes. Absolute ruckus.
Have you ever made it down here for SXSW or ACL?
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
2:00 pm
Not that Frenchy threw that ball…
T for Texas
March 23rd, 2010
2:00 pm
Never said Melky ws a stellar base runner, though.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:00 pm
Glaus strikes out again.
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
2:00 pm
Glaus Ks again. Still 1-0.
O.J.
March 23rd, 2010
2:01 pm
Swing and a miss for Glaus
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
2:02 pm
i’m ready for T-roy to start blasting some balls
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
2:03 pm
he’s one of my favorites and I’m looking forward to him being in the outfield for awhile.
Me too! I honestly believe that he’ll be really good. Maybe not Heyward good, but he’s got all the tools he needs to be successful. I’m definitely looking forward to an outfield with Schafer and Heyward in it. It’s gonna be GREAT!
mtm
March 23rd, 2010
2:03 pm
If Joe Morgan would shut-up maybe the wind blowing across the field would die down enough for someone to hit a homer.
Braves #1
March 23rd, 2010
2:03 pm
The Brave’s might just have the best pitching staff in baseball…I think Roger McDowell has done a fine job.I always liked the way he pitched for the Mets back in the 80’s..now maybe the Brave’s will be reborn again in Bobby’s last year.
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
2:04 pm
Oliver Perez check swing liner to Chipper. 1 out.
C's
March 23rd, 2010
2:04 pm
My God, do I hate listening to Miller and Morgan.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
2:04 pm
Frenchy does have a nice arm. Mekly has a good arm, too.
DC Bravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
2:04 pm
I know who my front runner is to replace Cox, good ole rockin Leo!
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
2:05 pm
I’m definitely looking forward to an outfield with Schafer and Heyward in it
Too bad we can’t have a Schafer/Heyward/KJ outfield
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
2:05 pm
Alex Cora singles to rf.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:05 pm
Single for Cora.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:06 pm
ESPN will chat with Bobby next.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
2:06 pm
I don’t like Chip Caray. But listening to Joe Morgan makes me miss Chip.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
2:06 pm
Schafer/Heyward/KJ outfield
You can’t have too much of a good thing. Karmic imbalance and all that…
A
March 23rd, 2010
2:06 pm
Just to clear this up, KELLY JOHNSON WAS THE ABSOLUTE WORST! I have never seen 1 man bring a team down like this a hole. 2 years in a row he started the downfall.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
2:06 pm
I remember last ST when they were interviewing Bobby during the game and he kept cussing. Cracked me up!
Runnin
March 23rd, 2010
2:07 pm
throw strikes Tommy
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:08 pm
Walk by Hanson.
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
2:08 pm
Castillo walks. 1st and 2nd 1 out for Wright.
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
2:08 pm
Hanson laboring here.
T for Texas
March 23rd, 2010
2:08 pm
Keith Hernandez on Mets broadcast on MLB.com is talking about the Mets bullpen, saying they have five spots that are in question, have no set-up man designated, and not enough guys throwing well in ST to cover those five slots. A bad bullpen at the back of that rotation? Runs will be scored on the Mets.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:09 pm
Wright pops to center
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
2:09 pm
Wright pops to CF on 1st pitch.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
2:09 pm
KELLY JOHNSON WAS THE ABSOLUTE WORST!
So does “A” stand for “absurd” or “azzwipe”?
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
2:09 pm
has Wright and/or Wrights massive arms been hitting any homers this spring?
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
2:10 pm
2 years in a row he started the downfall
What was wrong with his 2008? BTW, clever name A
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
2:10 pm
I looked earlier, and from memory, he Wright has 3 HR, but only 7 hits overall. Hitting in .100’s somewhere.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
2:10 pm
ahh, forget it. We’re not gonna reopen the KJ debate. It’s very old news
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
2:11 pm
Joe Morgan only reads “Pro-Morgan” websites … all 2 of them. There are 3,252 “Anti-Mogan” sites, but Joe thinks they’re ignorant and don’t know how to pronounce “accurate” like he does.
Escobart Simpson
March 23rd, 2010
2:11 pm
Wow, Bay thought he was going to get drilled on that hook.
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
2:11 pm
I think there’s an extra word in there somewhere. Feel free to take one out.
mtm
March 23rd, 2010
2:12 pm
crap!!
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:12 pm
Escobar boots it at SS. game tied at 1.
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
2:12 pm
Bay liner to SS. Eats up Yunel. 1 run in.
Pendleton
March 23rd, 2010
2:12 pm
I keep telling this “Hey-Wood” guy, “You’ll NEVER see a better pitch than the FIRST one!! SWING at it, and swing for the fence!!”, but he don’t listen, yet…but give me time, he’ll be another Frenchy in NO time!!
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
2:12 pm
And all the players started heading for the dugout after that pitch. Then the batter singles over Escobar’s glove.
Mike (original formula)
March 23rd, 2010
2:13 pm
Nice to see the blog thundering hard out of the gates today. Makes my day go by a little easier. I noticed that “T for Texas” has shown up. That’s one of my favorite Waylon songs. I don’t know if that’s where you got it from, but I’ve always felt like Waylon and baseball go great together. Just heard on Sportscenter about an hour and a half ago that Orel himself thinks Heyward is a darkhorse candidate for (dare I say it) ROY and NL MVP. Hey, I like the guy and what he’s doing, but I’d say MVP is a bit of a stretch.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
2:13 pm
brian-
ha, yes noticed the extra word, but thanks…i saw a picture of his arms a few weeks ago and they were ridiculous…just wondering if its helped at all
Baseball 101
March 23rd, 2010
2:13 pm
From the last blog:
Still chuckling at the Grinch @ 7:05.
Danga @ 8:53 am
Check these out from stats from the 2009 season:
Fewest Left on Base: 951 wins, 1322 losses, .418 winning percentage (Also: 157 ties).
More Times on Base: 1880 wins, 393 losses, .827 winning percentage (Also: 157 ties).
I am fully aware of the concept of OBP, and do not require an elementary lecture. The original statement under rebuttal was “RBI are overrated” (along with HR).
Check out these Braves stats from 2009:
Number of games with 9 or more LOB (one per inning avg): 58
W-L record in those 58 games: 32 – 26 (.552 winning percentage)
Number of these games lost by 1 or 2 runs: 14
Number of these losses in which our Braves had 2 or less RBI: 6
If the Braves had produced more RBI in the close losses, their record of 86 – 76 would have been closer to the Pythagorean of 91 – 71. It also would have made the playoff race more interesting.
This makes a lot of sense too.
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
2:14 pm
Yeah, Wright has seven hits, but it gives him a .226 avg. So I was kinda right.
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
2:14 pm
Agree with the announcers on Yunel there. Pretty nonchalant play by SS.
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
2:14 pm
Olayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Roger Doran must be Escobar’s role model, lol.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:14 pm
Murphy struck out. Inning over.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
2:15 pm
What the heck did he just swing at? Was he expecting it to bounce up to a hittable height?
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
2:15 pm
Roman Gal………..Francoeur didnt throw out Cabrera on that play. It was Daniel Murphy the Mets 1st baseman. Francoeur was lallygagging towards the ball hit to short right field.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
2:15 pm
.100’s, .226…it’s all the same…especially if you’re a Met
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:15 pm
The Mets play at tradition field. What is this tradition they keep talking about?
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
2:17 pm
the tradition of being terrible for different reasons every year…most recently: injuries…coming soon: crap for pitching with the exception of the ace
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
2:17 pm
Francoeur didnt throw out Cabrera on that play.
Oh, I know. I was just making a non-sequiter. You know how these things go…
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
2:18 pm
YEAH JASON HEYWARD!!!!
unknown hinson
March 23rd, 2010
2:18 pm
Yunel worries me with his carefree attitude. I keep hoping every year he will snap out of it yet it seems to almost get worse. He’s very talented and I would hate to see him waste it. I hope Chino stays on him this year.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:18 pm
Oh denizens:
Jason Heyward coming soon, from Bobby’s mouth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Navigator
March 23rd, 2010
2:19 pm
Misses the Braves, really? He took off to Baltimore to be with his team, and dumped him after a few short years. He showed loyalty to the Braves, the Baltimore showed no loyalty to him. And that’s the way it is, March 23, 2010, good night.
richbrave
March 23rd, 2010
2:19 pm
E 6 in my book and 1-1. ESCOBAR should have his ass kicked by HANSON for that sorry effort.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:19 pm
Escobar smokes it. 2 run HR.
T for Texas
March 23rd, 2010
2:20 pm
Yunel!
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
2:20 pm
Bobby Cox is apparently a very intelligent man…if only he could manage a bullpen.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
2:20 pm
Escobar tells Hanson, “Sorry ’bout that run, buddy!”
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:20 pm
Yunel makes up for his gaffe.
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
2:20 pm
OK Yunel. Good make up. Very nice stroke to RCF for HR.
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
2:20 pm
I have to give Bobby his due on that one. He touts the right-center power that Escobar has and then BAM, Escobar jacks on to right center for a 2 run homer, lol.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
2:20 pm
i don’t think Yunel is carefree…I think he plays with tons of emotion, he just comes off a little show-boaty sometimes, due to his cuban style…i think it was TP who said last yr that they’d much rather have to tone a player down than try to hype him up…to me, this indicates that the issue is not carelessness. he’s getting better every yr, both on the field and in and around the clubhouse.
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
2:21 pm
nice esco
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
2:21 pm
Ok, Little Mac!
You take what you get…
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:21 pm
McClouth ground to second and Castillo boots it.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
2:22 pm
Lol, Bobby Cox is hilarious.
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
2:22 pm
Perhaps the official scorer will give McLouth a hit on that one……..just like the scorer did on that grounder by Heyward that Rollins lallygagged in the dirt that pulled Howard off the bag.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
2:22 pm
Lets try spelling it “McLouth” this year.
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
2:22 pm
I know who my front runner is to replace Cox, good ole rockin Leo!
That ain’t nevah gonna happen. I’m actually surprised Leo is there now watching or whatever he’s doing. I heard it got very ugly when he left.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
2:23 pm
What is Bobby saying?
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:23 pm
Good bunt by Tommy.
C's
March 23rd, 2010
2:23 pm
Roger D-O-R-N
richbrave
March 23rd, 2010
2:24 pm
DC Bravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
2:04 pm
I know who my front runner is to replace Cox, good ole rockin Leo!
In HIS mind maybe.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:24 pm
Sorry MFin04, i knew there was only C. But fingers refused to listen.
Mekons
March 23rd, 2010
2:25 pm
Yunel smoked that one. It wouldn’t get out of the average ML park but it was an easy double.
FEAR
March 23rd, 2010
2:25 pm
score? thanks
jeff blauser
March 23rd, 2010
2:26 pm
yunel hits a ton of opposite field doubles or in this case homers. thats impressive.
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
2:26 pm
Bobby interview – some filler, but relevant points were “calling” the Escobar shot to RCF (Ghost is right), basically saying Heyward will be on the team (”it’s his time”), and he likes the team.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:26 pm
EWWWWWWWWWWWW.
A HR by Frenchy.
richbrave
March 23rd, 2010
2:26 pm
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
2:20 pm
OK Yunel. Good make up. Very nice stroke to RCF for HR.
Funny, the ball looked out in Section 604 also. I see HANSON had a word with ESCOBAR on the changeover.
someguy
March 23rd, 2010
2:27 pm
Jeff F is the best. He should still be a Braves. What were we thinking?
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
2:27 pm
Frenchy blasts HR to dead center. 1 out in 4th, 3-2 braves.
Greene Hornet
March 23rd, 2010
2:28 pm
We were thinking that Jeff F. shouldn’t strike out so much…
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
2:28 pm
Francoeur — don’t get too smiley there pal. It’s not like ST stats show up on the score board or anything.
Roja
March 23rd, 2010
2:29 pm
Wonder if McCann told Frenchy that a fastball was coming?
Section 412
March 23rd, 2010
2:30 pm
TnBrian – he did look awfully proud of himself, didn’t he?
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
2:30 pm
Francoeur — don’t get too smiley there pal. It’s not like ST stats show up on the score board or anything.
So he should be mopey and somber?
Roja
March 23rd, 2010
2:31 pm
Maybe TP has finally worn off of Francoeur.
BravesfaninWis
March 23rd, 2010
2:32 pm
Leo will get his chance to be pitching coach again next year with the Braves. When Bobby leaves and the Braves get someone on the lines of Freddi Gonzalez or Ned Yost to manage, Mazzone will be asked to come back. That is something I would personally like to see. I don’t care much for Roger McDowell. With Mazzone here, this exact pitching staff would be much better IMO.
FEAR
March 23rd, 2010
2:32 pm
hahahah frenchy
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
2:32 pm
A HR by Frenchy.
Only 26 more to go!
Roja
March 23rd, 2010
2:32 pm
I’d be a little proud, too. Not a whole lot of first pitch blasts to CF off of Tommy.
Clay
March 23rd, 2010
2:33 pm
What were we thinking? That if there had been a runner in scoring position, Frenchy woulda struck out at a pitch off the plate. That’s what I was thinking. Thank goodness he ISN’T a Brave.
gobraves
March 23rd, 2010
2:33 pm
it drives me nuts when former braves do well in games against us.. i like seeing them do well in their career but not games against us..hats off to frenchy..i bet he will never see a first pitch fastball in the strike zone against hansen ever again
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
2:33 pm
Mccann felt sorry for Failcoeur and told Hanson to serve one up right down the middle.
BravesfaninWis
March 23rd, 2010
2:33 pm
Francouer walked people, he did not hit a HR.
Roja
March 23rd, 2010
2:33 pm
Like he made the Baltimore staff better? Maybe there is a reason he is still not coaching in the bigs.
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
2:34 pm
I mean, I can’t blame Hanson. If I were a pitcher wanting to try a new pitch I can’t think of anyone better to try it out on than Frenchy.
BravesfaninWis
March 23rd, 2010
2:34 pm
My bad, I thought you were talking about the previous inning when Francouer walked. I didn’t see his HR.
goldenglove002
March 23rd, 2010
2:35 pm
Anyone have a working feed of this game. It’s on ESPN 360 tommorow, wish they would for today.
Couch Tater
March 23rd, 2010
2:35 pm
Wonder if McCann told Frenchy that a fastball was coming?
I wonder if he told Frenchy that it was just a long out at Citi Field.
Roja
March 23rd, 2010
2:37 pm
I generally detest Joe Morgan calling a game but he had a good point on Yuni. His comment was that you need to practice like you play. His piint was that if you are going to side-saddle a ground ball in ST rather than get in front of it, you will do the same little-league stuff when it counts.
gobraves
March 23rd, 2010
2:37 pm
where is DOB posting at today? i checked and this seemed to be his last article, does he have today off?
Daslied
March 23rd, 2010
2:38 pm
RHR
Only 26 more to go!
How come when you remember obscure things from a month ago it’s funny, yet when Paul does it (2:22 p.m.) I want to shoot myself in the face?
Roja
March 23rd, 2010
2:38 pm
It’s on ESPN HD in Florida
Adrian
March 23rd, 2010
2:38 pm
“I never said that Prado sucked
Me neither. But I did always think KJ was better…
[sigh] I miss KJ.”
Yeah, I sure do miss KJ costing us all those games… Wow! LOL
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
2:39 pm
I disagree with Esco knocking down a hard hit line drive in spring training. No reason to risk getting hurt over a play like that.
ATXRainDog
March 23rd, 2010
2:40 pm
I think the issue w/ Leo was that the pitchers generally felt he was a little too old school. Not w/ his personality, but w/ his methods. I’d have to go digging, but I’m almost positive there were interviews w/ Braves pitchers after he left that indicated the concensus opinion in the clubhouse was that his methods just weren’t working w/ the younger pitchers.
I could be wrong, but I’m pretty positive that our pitchers, generally speaking, responded positively to the idea that we were moving in a different direction w/ a younger coach who was thought to be a bit more in tune w/ modern coaching methods. Not that Leo wasn’t a great coach in his day… you know what I mean.
Personally, I think McDowell has done a very solid job. I worry about us burning through our best relievers, but I feel like that’s more on Bobby than Roger.
rammerjammer
March 23rd, 2010
2:40 pm
Some funky karma going on today.
Escobart Simpson
March 23rd, 2010
2:41 pm
goldenglove,
http://p2p4u.net/watch/14586/1/watch-espn-america.html
Roja
March 23rd, 2010
2:42 pm
And on MLB.com
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
2:42 pm
jeffrey, that was a shot at Frenchy because he said if OBP% is so important than why doesn’t it show up on the score board. At least I think he said OBP%.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
2:42 pm
What’s up Braves fans? Didn’t even realize our guys were squaring off today. I’m just not a big spring training games guy. I find the games boring. I’ll watch when I come across a game but I don’t follow them religously.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
2:43 pm
Forget about chewing Esco’s butt, Melky and Chipper need to be running laps today in the back parking lot.
Roja
March 23rd, 2010
2:43 pm
Well, Chipper should have known better. Frenchy doubled him off.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
2:44 pm
where is DOB posting at today? i checked and this seemed to be his last article, does he have today off? (gobraves)
My guess is he’s at a funeral in Kansas – if you know what I mean? {:
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
2:44 pm
Cause it’s ST that was funny that Frenchy picked off CJ. Regular season = not so much.
mtm
March 23rd, 2010
2:44 pm
Frenchy showing off today. Hope he enjoys it since it will not last long.
LuisG
March 23rd, 2010
2:44 pm
McCann rips one to right but right at Frenchy, who doubles up Chipper at first. Inning over.
Roja
March 23rd, 2010
2:45 pm
Joe Morgan did say that Esco was one of his favorite SS but that he just doesn’t give 100% on every play.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
2:45 pm
Holy Cornelia! Are people really still hung up about Kelly?
Look, you can like a player for more than just their statistics and performance. Now, I’m going to bite back anymore comments regarding the subject.
itcouldbeworse
March 23rd, 2010
2:46 pm
I am at work and anders just made me LOL my boss just asked why I laughed…not cool
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
2:46 pm
Enough about Leo. The guy was a “Master” with 3 HOF pitchers, not so much without. You do the math. Give me Dave Duncan anyday. Now there’s a guy who can make ice cream out of you know what.
Blue
March 23rd, 2010
2:46 pm
Yurtle_the_turtle; chill out dude. He said “If they can stay healthy, I think there’s a real good chance they can win the division.” He didn’t say they “should” as you asserted, and certainly never said it would be easy or that the Rome Braves could do it. Get a life, dude. I heard him mention on the radio last week that the Phillies have the most talent. But that also does not always win out.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
2:46 pm
TnBrian – Oh okay…I just didn’t like everyone ragging on JF because he’s doing good for once
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
2:46 pm
It’s the delivery, Daslied. Duh.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
2:47 pm
Good job Bobby pulling Chipper out and chewing his butt out!!!
Roja
March 23rd, 2010
2:47 pm
Funny — MLB-TV is a batter ahead of ESPN-HD
rammerjammer
March 23rd, 2010
2:47 pm
Frenchy walks. Frenchy homers. Frenchy picks off Chipper.
Oh, the humiliation!
Roja
March 23rd, 2010
2:48 pm
Hanson walked another batter.
Smackerel
March 23rd, 2010
2:48 pm
Hanson might have been feeding Francouer’s notorious 1st pitch swinging habit in ST to set him up for the regular season. Maddux used to do stuff like that.
Roja
March 23rd, 2010
2:48 pm
Bobby’s not chewing him out — ESPN is interviewing him
DAP
March 23rd, 2010
2:50 pm
chipper just called david wright a gold glover. hes not bitter.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
2:50 pm
BTW- Frenchy, his wife Catie and their three dogs were the picture of the week in the NY Daily News sports section this past Sunday. The guy is loving NYC and NYC appears to love him. Who’d a thunk it? I know, I know- just wait until he doesn’t hit etc.. But you have to admit he’s taken to the place a lot better than even I could have hoped.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
2:51 pm
It’s the delivery, Daslied. Duh.
RHR presents it in sarcastic/ribbing form. PL presents it in research paper form.
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
2:52 pm
I was checking the 25 brackets that I filled out to see which one I was doing the best on as far as the number of Sweet 16 teams left. I have one in particular that I picked on the foxports.com contest sponsored by Hooters’. I correctly picked 13 of the 16 Sweet 16 teams. Also, I have 7 of my Elite 8 teams are still alive (only Villanova, which I had projected to lose to Duke in the Elite 8).
Anyway, in this contest, I am ranked tied for 51st nationally. You get 1 point for correctly picking the 1st round, 2 for the second round winners,, 4 for Sweet 16 winners, 8 for Elite 8 winners, 16 for Final 4 winners, and 32 for picking the winner of the championship game.
I have 51 points while the leader has 57. However, I was looking at the brackets of all 50 entries ahead of me and I’d say that 90% of them had Kansas at least making the Final 4, with the vast majority of them picking Kansas to win it all.
So if the following happens, I could be the winner of this contest (which would garner me 2 round trip tickets to Las Vegas….3 day/2 night stay for 2 people at the Hooters Casino Hotel…….$200 room credit (I guess to order room service or order pay per view adult films, lol)……….2 tickets to attend the Hooters Casino Show………transportation to and from the airport……..AND my personal favorite, a month’s supply of Hooters’ Wings.
Sweet 16……
Michigan State over N.Iowa (I had Kansas)
Tennessee over Ohio State
Syracuse over Butler
Kansas State over Xavier
Kentucky over Cornell (I had Wisconsin)
Washington over West Virginia
Duck over Purdue
The Baylor vs. St. Mary’s game is the only game I cant win because I had Villanova winning this game.
Elite 8…….
Tennessee over Michigan
Syracuse over Kansas St.
Kentucky over Washington
Duke over (whoever)
Final 4….
Syracuse over Tennessee
Kentucky over Duke
Championship….
Kentucky over Syracuse
So what do you guys think? Do I have a chance?
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
2:52 pm
I mean if I did it like this I’d want to kill myself too.
………………………………..Congratulations Frenchy…………………only 26 more to go. But like I said NUMEROUS times beginning on opening day of 2009………….Frenchy SUCKS and Bobby is a MORON to keep running him out there to SUCK some more. Last spring you MORONS thought Frenchy was going to turn it around but I KNEW he was going to suck and nobody gave me any PROPS for it. I am the smartest Braves fan on EARTH and I know who is going to SUCK and who is going to be GOOD and worthy of my PROPS. I also know a lot about heterosexual relationships so if you ever need any solid advice, just ask me. Thanks for the PROPS I know you’re about to give me at 2:55.
Baseball 101
March 23rd, 2010
2:52 pm
VERY intelligent discussion of hitting, including bat selection, by Chipper just then.
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
2:53 pm
Oh I almost forgot. Bracket bracket bracket bracket Sears $25,000 gift card bracket bracket I am and idiot. Bracket.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:56 pm
That mets pitcher looks good.
Daslied
March 23rd, 2010
2:57 pm
$200 room credit (I guess to order room service or order pay per view adult films, lol)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vHUymrliYQ
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
2:57 pm
RHR………..”and idiot”. Learn some English.
rammerjammer
March 23rd, 2010
2:58 pm
Frenchy is the Picture of the Week AND feelin’ the love from Anders!
It just keeps getting better.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
2:58 pm
mclouth chopper to SS.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
2:59 pm
How much lower can McLouth’s avg go down?
Marko
March 23rd, 2010
3:00 pm
Leo is awesome.
Love listening to him on the rude awakening.
ATXRainDog
March 23rd, 2010
3:00 pm
@ Anders
Yeah, I mean, you have to give a lot of credit to the individual pitchers, but I don’t think you can entirely discount the work Mazzone did w/ some other guys. Tough to ignore the results from guys like Millwood, Burkett, Jorge Sosa, Jaret Wright, etc. Some of those guys were complete reclamation projects.
Conversely, he’s had his share of flameouts… Davies and Marquis come to mind. But if you’re going to credit the successful pitchers w/ spurring their own development, I think it’s only fair to lay some blame at the feet of the pitchers that fail, too, right?
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
3:00 pm
What, no Jo Jo?
Daslied
March 23rd, 2010
3:00 pm
RHR, more like this:
………………………………..Congratulations Frenchy…………………only 26 more to go. When Jason Heyward turns 26 he’ll become a free agent. Unless the MORONS in the front OFFICE do the smart thing and keep him in the minors UNTIL June. Haven’t they learned from Lincecum and REYNOLDS………………Heyward will still be a great ADDICTION a month later than expected.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:03 pm
Why does Francoeur run like a girl?
Scott
March 23rd, 2010
3:03 pm
Why is Mazzone Blackballed fom baseball?
McFann
March 23rd, 2010
3:04 pm
Dangit…forgot the game was on TV. Of course I think of it now that Ross is in.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:04 pm
This Venters kid sucks.
ATXRainDog
March 23rd, 2010
3:05 pm
I think Mazzone Blackball is definitely going to be my fantasy team name.
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
3:05 pm
Yank this BUM out of the game. He’s garbage. Then again, he’s probably Bobby’s replacement for Jeff Bennett.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
3:06 pm
ATXRaindog- I’m not saying Leo Mazzone wasn’t a good pitching coach, but most of his succes came when he had the big three at his disposal. He certainly couldn’t figure out how to build a closer which bit them in the behind in the post season many of those 14 consecutive division winning years. I guess starters are his specialty?
Hey, I say the same thing about Joe Torre. The guy sure got smart as soon as he took over that Yankee powerhouse. Up until then he was a below .500 manager with many years under his belt.
Daslied
March 23rd, 2010
3:07 pm
Paul – um, okay? Did you really say “have the stones”? Who are you, Joey Bishop?
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
3:07 pm
What’s wrong with Venters? What’s going on?
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
3:08 pm
Why does Francoeur run like a girl? (Nick)
The Mets are busy fixing his hitting. They’ll get to how he learned to run in the Braves organization later on. {:
unknown hinson
March 23rd, 2010
3:09 pm
Play by play anyone? No idea what’s going on.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:10 pm
Infante almost killed the Mets pitcher.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:11 pm
The big man is here
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:11 pm
1-1 to heyward
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
3:11 pm
Who’s the big man?
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:12 pm
Heyward into a FC. Kid is a BUST!
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:12 pm
chopped it to second, fielders choice and infante out. Heyward on 1st.
ATXRainDog
March 23rd, 2010
3:13 pm
Anders – agreed. Good point on Torre.
I mean, in general, I’d say coaches probably get a little more credit/blame than they deserve. I don’t disagree w/ you that Mazzone’s success was half-rooted in the fact that he happened to coach very talented and intelligent pitchers.
FEAR
March 23rd, 2010
3:13 pm
So joe started the new job yet?
shmoe
March 23rd, 2010
3:13 pm
HOF Morgan doing some major stroking of Heyward’s bat
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:14 pm
Thurston just lost his job to Conrad.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:14 pm
Another FC. Thurston to 1st.
richbrave
March 23rd, 2010
3:14 pm
ANDERS:
My man. Looks like the BRAVES and METS are pretty evenly matched at this point in 2010. That’s not something I would have said starting off the past two seasons. I thought the METS quite a bit better than the BRAVES at this point in ‘08 and ‘09. FLA. looks improved as well. STRASBURG alone will help the NATS, although he’s not slated to start the season in D.C. – HARRISBURG I believe. And with HALLIDAY, the PHILLIES have to be improved. It’s gonna’ be quite a race this year in the NL East I think. PHILLIES clearly the best in baseball until proven otherwise.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:14 pm
Conrad batting
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:16 pm
Conrad walks
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
3:17 pm
Braves and Mets evenly matched in 2010? What are you smokin’?
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:18 pm
Eric Hinske pops out.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:21 pm
Wagner pitching.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
3:22 pm
If the Phillies stay healthy I think they win the division pretty comfortably. The rest of the division is a toss up based on a myriad of things. Who knows? There’s “if’s” all over the division imo.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:22 pm
cora hits to third and is out
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:23 pm
castillo singles to center
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
3:24 pm
FEAR
Start on Monday. Have no idea what I’ll be doing, though. haha. It’s brand new here.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
3:24 pm
Wagner pitching (VP)
Yeah, this is just how Wagner was announced into the game on this blog when he pitched for the Mets. {:
SoWeGa Fanatic
March 23rd, 2010
3:24 pm
Whoa! Frenchy a dinger and 2 bb’s????????????? What happened to him?
Shane
March 23rd, 2010
3:24 pm
jeffrey, that was a shot at Frenchy because he said if OBP% is so important than why doesn’t it show up on the score board. At least I think he said OBP%.
That is what Francouer said. Further proof that he doesnt get it.
OBP is the most important thing in Baseball. Far and away. In Baseball there isnt a clock. The game moves along because outs are made. The most precious commodity in Baseball are outs. The more players you have that excel at not making outs the better off you are going to be.
SoWeGa Fanatic
March 23rd, 2010
3:24 pm
Oh, I see Anders is showing his face again. Mutts must not be losing.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
3:25 pm
Name one guy on the Mets staff other than Santana who can get 15 wins.
T for Texas
March 23rd, 2010
3:25 pm
Mets announcers talking about their September collapse in 2008. They are still sick about it, can’t let it go. That month wrecked that franchise.
FEAR
March 23rd, 2010
3:26 pm
joerochester – that’s the point joe. Other than santana they got a buncha “jo jo reyes” types. haha
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:26 pm
Wagner walks Wright.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:26 pm
Billy Wagner really sucks.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
3:27 pm
Whoa! Frenchy a dinger and 2 bb’s????????????? What happened to him? (SoWeGa Fanatic)
Hojo! Hojo! Hojo!
T for Texas
March 23rd, 2010
3:27 pm
Shane- Did Francouer really say that? Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:27 pm
Anders,
Do the Mutts really have no presence on the web? Why in the world do you choose to hangout here?
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
3:27 pm
Question is: Who do you blame for the Mets’ demise in 2008?
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
3:28 pm
The Mets are a mess and all of baseball knows it. Sure, injuries can happen to any team. But the Braves would need quite a bit of them to fall to where the Mets will be this year.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:28 pm
Conrad missed the tag at third. The ball was there pretty early.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
3:28 pm
Billy Wagner really sucks (Nick)
Is this from the way back machine?
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
3:28 pm
FEAR
If I hack into your systems, could you stop me?
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:28 pm
Jason Bay struck out by the way on that last play.
Evan
March 23rd, 2010
3:29 pm
Y’all remember when Glavine would come pitch against us and we would always crush him? I’m starting to worry that those same curcumstances my exist for us whenever Wagner faces the mets and phils
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:29 pm
Wow, WTF was Ross thinking?
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
3:30 pm
Holy crap, did you know the avg annual salary of a Publix store manager is 113,000?!
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:30 pm
Just a mess at third base, Mets lead 5-3.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:30 pm
This Braves team is horrible.
shmoe
March 23rd, 2010
3:30 pm
well well
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
3:31 pm
One of the worst plays in the history of baseball folks.
FEAR
March 23rd, 2010
3:31 pm
joerochester – 2008 was a combo of poor performance and crappy decisions by the FO. 2009 was obviously injuries
shmoe
March 23rd, 2010
3:31 pm
evan, why would you think that? he had a walk, but and struck out two batters, runs scored are not his fault.
Another Braves Fan
March 23rd, 2010
3:31 pm
Personally wish Leo was still the pitching coach – just haven’t been able to warm up to Roger at all -
T for Texas
March 23rd, 2010
3:31 pm
Throwing to 3rd with 2 out and 2 strikes for a 2 run error? David, David, David. Billy Wagner will talk to him about it in the dugout.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
3:32 pm
They collapsed in 2007, too, didn’t they?
Saff
March 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm
What a very unnecessary throw by David Ross, that was uncalled for but at the same time Conrad has to catch that ball.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm
That play at third wasn’t even going to be close. Either way Brooks Conrad should be in AAA to start the season with that performance.
T for Texas
March 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm
Ross single. Trying to make up for it.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm
There goes Conrad’s job! Fire Bobby, too!
McFann
March 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm
Blathering blatherskites…THAT was embarrassing! Who gets the error for that monstrosity?
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
3:34 pm
Do the Mutts really have no presence on the web? Why in the world do you choose to hangout here? (VP)
For the objective enlightening baseball thoughts from the likes of Brian from SC. I mean, up here in NY all these fans think the Mets injuries actually impacted their season last year. Can you believe that? They lost their 1st,3rd,4th and 5th hitters along with 3 out of 5 starters and their closer to injuries last year and now they use that as a crutch for not playing better.
You don’t get that type of subjectivity here on the old Braves blog. That’s why I come here.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:34 pm
BTW the NFL just now overhauled the overtime rules for playoffs. If the first team scores a TD, then the second team gets a shot.
T for Texas
March 23rd, 2010
3:34 pm
MFin04:
Not Conrad’s error.
T for Texas
March 23rd, 2010
3:35 pm
Ross’ error.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:35 pm
You don’t get that type of subjectivity here on the old Braves blog. That’s why I come here.
We don’t need your subjectivity. This is a Braves blog. Not a MLB blog.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
3:35 pm
What 3 starters?? Johan was there most of the season.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:35 pm
Freddie Freeman is on deck.
Blanco at the plate. Runners on 1st and 2nd. Nobody out.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:36 pm
Should be bunting here.
Saff
March 23rd, 2010
3:36 pm
Wow the people who think Conrad should be sent down because of Ross’s eratic throw. C’Mon people.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
3:36 pm
Thanks for continuing the PBP.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
3:37 pm
Throwing to 3rd with 2 out and 2 strikes for a 2 run error? David, David, David. Billy Wagner will talk to him about it in the dugout. (T from Texas)
In ST maybe. During the season he’ll just throw him under the bus to the media. That comes with the Wagner package folks. Maybe not right away, but when the heat is on it’ll happen. Always has. I personally never cared but it is in his DNA.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:37 pm
ESPN projects .274, 17HR & 57 RBI for Heyward.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
3:37 pm
The Braves have a legit shot of having Rookie of the Year contenders in the next few years… Heyward, Freeman, Salcedo, and some of our minor league pitchers.. if the hype is as good as they say.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:37 pm
Just cut Blanco immediately.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
3:37 pm
Doesn’t matter if its Conrad’s error he should have made that play, and conversely he should have made the tag before at third on the steal. He was out of position, and tried some stupid swipe tag instead of putting the glove down and getting the out.
Evan
March 23rd, 2010
3:38 pm
Schmoe: It’s not really his performance today that is making me say that it’s more experience watching baseball for many years and watching pitcher’s get crushed by their old teams
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:38 pm
Blanco grounds into a DP.
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
3:38 pm
Anders, I didn’t say anything about the 2009 season. I’m talking about the 2010 season. You know, the one where Oliver Perez, John Maine, Mike Pelfrey, Fernando Nieve, and Nelson Figueroa are starting 75% of your games? The one where you’ve got open competition for FIVE bullpen spots and no one pitching well enough to claim them?
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:39 pm
Mets give one back.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:39 pm
Ross scored on a wild pitch. Mets lead 5-4.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
3:39 pm
Brian
lol.. You mean Oli isn’t worth 12 mill per year?
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:40 pm
Freeman walks on 5 pitches.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:40 pm
FF walks
SoWeGa Fanatic
March 23rd, 2010
3:40 pm
“Hojo! Hojo! Hojo!”
Anders, I hope ur right. Even if it’s as a Mutt. I really like the guy. Always have. Of course, if he turns into a monster power guy, he’s coming back home as a FA at a discount to be a Brave.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:41 pm
Those “JoJo Reyes” type pitchers that the Mets have 2-5 is enough to shut down the Braves anemic offense.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
3:42 pm
The Mets are a mess and all of baseball knows it. Sure, injuries can happen to any team. But the Braves would need quite a bit of them to fall to where the Mets will be this year. (Brian from SC0
Really? If Chipper and McCann go down you can close up shop right there. At least in my humble opinion.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
3:42 pm
you’re basing that off of a different lineup, Nick.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:42 pm
Infante singles to center. Freeman on second and jason heyward at the plate.
BravesFanLostInOhio
March 23rd, 2010
3:42 pm
Conrad wasn’t at fault on the SB OR the error that let those runs score. Bad day for Ross, then Conrad gets blamed by Morgan, who sucks anyway.
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
3:43 pm
Shane- Did Francouer really say that? Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.
Yeah he did. To ESPN, no less.
During the season he’ll just throw him under the bus to the media. That comes with the Wagner package folks. Maybe not right away, but when the heat is on it’ll happen. Always has. I personally never cared but it is in his DNA.
Huh. Lose a Frenchy, gain a Frenchy.
ATXRainDog
March 23rd, 2010
3:44 pm
Come on Baseball Jesus….
Brian from SC
March 23rd, 2010
3:44 pm
Nick, those Mets pitchers were 5-13 with a 5.38 ERA against that “anemic offense” last year, one that promises to be much improved this year.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:44 pm
Heyward is a BUST!!
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:44 pm
3-2 count & Heyward strikes out looking.
Saff
March 23rd, 2010
3:45 pm
Heyward strikes out looking.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
3:45 pm
Wow, on a 6′ 6″ kid, that pitch isn’t a strike.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
3:46 pm
What pitch did he freeze on?
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:46 pm
The kid has looked horrible last few games. AAA for at least half the season.
ATXRainDog
March 23rd, 2010
3:46 pm
Bummer… no salvation today.
Nova Scotia Steve
March 23rd, 2010
3:47 pm
Heyward didn’t stike out – he gave Parnell a break.
DAP
March 23rd, 2010
3:47 pm
anders If Chipper and McCann go down you can close up shop right there. At least in my humble opinion
ive though alot about this, and im not being a homer when i say i dont think its over if the braves lose chipper and mccann.
Nova Scotia Steve
March 23rd, 2010
3:47 pm
Proctor on to pitch
Nova Scotia Steve
March 23rd, 2010
3:47 pm
93 MPH fastball
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:48 pm
Frenchy flies out to Heyward.
Nova Scotia Steve
March 23rd, 2010
3:49 pm
Proctor looks good. No way this dude isn’t going to make the team.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
3:51 pm
Lol, cue the walk and 2-run shot.
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
3:51 pm
Shane/RHR, and to think I’m making fun of Francoeur all while saying OBP% . The “P” in OBP is %. I need to go out and get some fresh air!
Nova Scotia Steve
March 23rd, 2010
3:53 pm
And by looking good i mean velocity is good, command is good and he’s around the plate. he’s not missing by a lot…nice lookin curve
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
3:53 pm
Not looking so good anymore…
Magic Man
March 23rd, 2010
3:54 pm
Proctor was dominant in a two-year stint as a set-up man with the Yankees. Unfortunately, they literally used him until his arm fell off. But, the good news with Tommy John is that you usually come back stronger when you are fully healthy. However, it usually takes a little over a year and a half from surgery before your full command and feel comes back.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:54 pm
Proctor – meet Gwinnett.
Winterville
March 23rd, 2010
3:54 pm
Nick
You are a huge doucher.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
3:54 pm
ive though alot about this, and im not being a homer when i say i dont think its over if the braves lose chipper and mccann. (DAP)
DAP, I believe you when you say that. To be honest I hope we don’t find out. Chipper and McCann are both solid guys who I hope stay healthy.
Saff
March 23rd, 2010
3:54 pm
Proctor is all over the place.
Magic Man
March 23rd, 2010
3:54 pm
What are Nate’s stats so far?
LuisG
March 23rd, 2010
3:55 pm
Oh, great, now the game is out of the air. Does someone know what’s going on?
brent
March 23rd, 2010
3:56 pm
seriously a huge doucher
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
3:56 pm
The kid has looked horrible last few games. AAA for at least half the season. (Nick)
And what do you suggest they do with all that bronze they had delivered to the Ted last week?
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:56 pm
Proctor blows.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
3:56 pm
mets lead 7-4
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
3:57 pm
I don’t think he is even gonna make the Gwinnett team.
LuisG
March 23rd, 2010
3:57 pm
Nevermind… game’s back. Just missed Proctor walking another hitter.
Saff
March 23rd, 2010
3:57 pm
David Ross looks bad today Heyward with a great throw and Ross drops the ball.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:57 pm
Anders – I don’t buy into the kid like everybody around here.
Nova Scotia Steve
March 23rd, 2010
3:57 pm
Well…I can eat my words…but i still have faith in the guy…but who wouldn’t be sitting on a fastball down the middle of the plate after walking three guys.
I coulda ripped that one into right field.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
3:58 pm
Huh. Lose a Frenchy, gain a Frenchy (RHR)
Who did Frenchy throw under the bus?
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
3:58 pm
Nova Scotia Steve – LOL, pretty unlucky on your part. Try not to make too many crucial statements during the regular season ok?
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
3:58 pm
Nick- You weren’t working at IBM back when Bill Gates came a knocking – were you?
Nova Scotia Steve
March 23rd, 2010
3:59 pm
I love how the Mets announcers (K.Hernandez) say Proctor isn’t throwing hard…91-93 isn’t hard? Okay Keith….whatever man
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
3:59 pm
Still 2 spots in the bullpen that noboby seems to want. I’d take Kimbrel & JoJo if I had to pick today and thats scary. Proctor, Acosta, Chavez, and Venters aren’t options IMO.
Frankie Knuckles
March 23rd, 2010
4:00 pm
Nate was batting around .024 a few days ago. Its safe to assume he will not break camp with good overall stats. If he starts hitting again it was a successful spring for Nate.
Saff
March 23rd, 2010
4:01 pm
First off Proctos is not a kid and he will be up with the Braves at some point early in the season. Nick and MFin04 try to be a little more optimistic. Proctor is way ahead of schedule he did have tommy john by the way.
Daslied
March 23rd, 2010
4:01 pm
Who did Frenchy throw under the bus?
OBP.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
4:01 pm
Nova Scotia Steve – Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. At least the Mets spend the money to televise the game. take the good with the bad.
Nova Scotia Steve
March 23rd, 2010
4:02 pm
Remember how early Peter Moylan returned from TJ surgury…If i remember correctly these are very similar situations.
And yes Proctor will be on this team – i believe anyway
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
4:02 pm
Thurston just made the team. Glad we cleared up the Conrad/Thurston debate. Not much to be optimistic about with Proctor. He fell apart, 3 straight walks, all over the place, and then lucky to not get taken yard with a BP fastball down the middle.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
4:03 pm
Frenchy threw OBP under the bus and that’s a problem on here? Tough crowd.
For what it’s worth Wagner thinks WHIP is over rated. Discuss.
Nova Scotia Steve
March 23rd, 2010
4:04 pm
Nova Scotia Steve – Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. At least the Mets spend the money to televise the game. take the good with the bad.
Anders – Believe me I know what you mean….Have you ever actually listened to a game called by Chip Carey and Ron Gant………man
VP
March 23rd, 2010
4:04 pm
Walk to Conrad. Two on and no out
SC Smith
March 23rd, 2010
4:04 pm
Some of us know baseball and some of us don’t. Heyward has not looked horrible, he’s been fine it’s just baseball. Gotta remember if a player hits .350 he still makes an out 6.5 times out of 10 AB’s. And you folks who say start him in AAA because of contracts, you’ve lost your minds. If the Bravos weren’t contenders I’d say correct, but they are so it’s win now baby you never know when the window will close.
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
4:04 pm
Who did Frenchy throw under the bus?
Oh you know, Frank Wren, Bobby Cox, etc.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
4:04 pm
Hinske = Norton 2.0
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
4:05 pm
WHIP is overrated for certain guys. For certain closers or guys like Jurrjens, lots of guys get on base but don’t score. Especially with closers, you can give up 3 walks, strikeout 3, and you are good to go.
Nova Scotia Steve
March 23rd, 2010
4:06 pm
Nick – Only difference is Hinske has two world series rings – hard to dispute
VP
March 23rd, 2010
4:06 pm
Hinske HBP. Bases loaded & nobody out
Winterville
March 23rd, 2010
4:06 pm
Nick = Worthless
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
4:06 pm
LOL, thats pretty similar to Norton, get on base anyway possible, except for the old base hit.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
4:06 pm
Bases loaded, no outs. Lets see how they ruin this opportunity.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
4:07 pm
David Ross needs a grand slam to make up for all his crappy play today.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
4:08 pm
Runners on the corners, 1 out and the Mets lead 7-5.
Saff
March 23rd, 2010
4:08 pm
Sac fly Ross 7-5 Mets.
bravesgrl4life
March 23rd, 2010
4:08 pm
so, what is Ross doing????
Nova Scotia Steve
March 23rd, 2010
4:09 pm
Ross smoked that ball
VP
March 23rd, 2010
4:10 pm
Conrad scores & is 7-6. 2 out and runner on second
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
4:10 pm
7-6 2-outs runner on 2nd
Saff
March 23rd, 2010
4:10 pm
7-6 runner on second 2 out and Blanco up.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
4:10 pm
Blanco up, ballgame.
VP
March 23rd, 2010
4:11 pm
Mets win 7-6.
MFin04
March 23rd, 2010
4:12 pm
Almost beat it out, close play at first. At least he put it in play.
Saff
March 23rd, 2010
4:12 pm
Ground out to second Mets win 7-6.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
4:12 pm
Blanco is about as worthless as they come.
Mixxo
March 23rd, 2010
4:12 pm
Fourth place……here we come!!!
monty
March 23rd, 2010
4:13 pm
DIdn’t Brad Penney get lit up yesterday or day before? Like 10 hits 7 runs? I guess his mgr. was letting him build his confidence.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
4:13 pm
4th? The Nats might be better than the Braves this season.
Frankie Knuckles
March 23rd, 2010
4:13 pm
Whats this ESPN Frenchy quote about.
SC Smith
March 23rd, 2010
4:14 pm
Who gave up most of the runs today?
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
4:15 pm
Ross
Mixxo
March 23rd, 2010
4:16 pm
Nick – We can’t beat them either so……cellar.
McFann
March 23rd, 2010
4:17 pm
T for Texas Ross’ error.
Yeah, I guess so! I only asked because, it being Ross, I half expected them to give the E to Conrad.
Nick
March 23rd, 2010
4:18 pm
74-88. Tied for 4th place with the Nationals.
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
4:19 pm
I’m at work so didn’t get to see the game but everything I need to know about today’s game, I learned on the MIB blog.
Yunel sucks (and has a bad attitude), David Ross sucks, Conrad or Thurston sucks (I’m not clear on which one), Chipper doesn’t suck as bad as he used to, but he still sucks a little. Glaus probably sucks, Heyward is a bust, McLouth still sucks but had a lucky day (blind squirrel, nut, etc), Proctor sucks, and Jeffy is the greatest RF’er alive and the braves are and idiot for trading him. Oh and, Joe Morgan sucks and should have been FIRED a long time ago.
‘Zat about right?
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
4:20 pm
And in a late development. Blanco sucks. Braves lose. (I think).
lexbrave
March 23rd, 2010
4:20 pm
Per ESPN’s Chad Forde:
“I just had a GM in the lottery tell me they liked him more than Cole Aldrich.”
Which Kentucky big man is he referring to? Cousins? Patterson? Nope and Nope. He is talking about Kentucky’s 6th – 7th man Daniel Orton.
FEAR
March 23rd, 2010
4:21 pm
RHR – the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked. Uh oh gotta go. My weiner kids are listening!!
McFann
March 23rd, 2010
4:21 pm
Are we having fun, kiddies??
timthebrave
March 23rd, 2010
4:21 pm
Go support your atlanta thrashers tongight and learn to relax it’s spring training. No need to get so excited about our AAA centerfielder not coming through in the clutch. Nobody injured = win. Go Braves
Crime Dog
March 23rd, 2010
4:21 pm
RHR-
You nailed it. Don’t forget that Bobby is a senile kook and the entire bullpen sucks.
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
4:24 pm
Go support your atlanta thrashers tongight and learn to relax it’s spring training. No need to get so excited about our AAA centerfielder not coming through in the clutch. Nobody injured = win. Go Braves
Not a game, not a game, not a game.
ncscoots
March 23rd, 2010
4:24 pm
RHR, mid-season form on the recap. PROPS!
Although I thought you might have gotten a couple of MORONs and verbal stake-burnings in there, but, hey, that’s just me being picky.
Baseball 101
March 23rd, 2010
4:26 pm
Shane @ 3:24 pm
The most precious commodity in Baseball are outs.
Umm – I thought it was runs. I thought you had to score more runs than the other team to win the game. At least that’s how the final score is kept
MattyRoss
March 23rd, 2010
4:28 pm
Also children’s laughter. Probably the most precious. That and OPS will win every time.
SC Smith
March 23rd, 2010
4:29 pm
Hey RHR, I guess somebody’s gotta stir the pot. But you missed one, braves were fools for getting rid of KJ.
ncscoots
March 23rd, 2010
4:29 pm
I want Shane, Shaun, Grinch, and Baseball 101 in a Steel Cage Death Match. Settle the grudge match once and for all, LOL. nolie and i will take turns refereeing.
Big Fan
March 23rd, 2010
4:29 pm
Leo is my baby daddy! He is soooo hot! Bring him back!
dh
March 23rd, 2010
4:32 pm
And the Braves Nation misses Leo. I would love to see Leo back on the bench, rocking, and coaching the Braves next year.
CB
March 23rd, 2010
4:33 pm
Well,I see the troll has been back today. No,not Anders, the troll Nick.
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
4:34 pm
*hangs head*
How could I forget KJ? It’s a good thing scoots loves me….
ncscoots
March 23rd, 2010
4:36 pm
More than a brand new pair of $3000 Weejuns, RHR.
Turning heads
March 23rd, 2010
4:37 pm
How can we forget McLouth’s big day– He almost doubled his batting average.
The Ghost of P.L.
March 23rd, 2010
4:37 pm
RHR………………I guess that “and idiot” is some stupid inside joke that you keep rehashing over and over again. It got old well before the first million times you said it.
rammerjammer
March 23rd, 2010
4:39 pm
Love this Joe Morgan story: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/columns/articles/0728onbaseball0728.html
richbrave
March 23rd, 2010
4:41 pm
“…….Venters aren’t options IMO…….”
Tuned out with VENTERS on the mound. Looked worse than ORTEGANO. Definitely not ML material at this point. Hey, MAZZONE’s hangin’, sniffing for a job. Let HIM ruin JONNY.
Crime Dog
March 23rd, 2010
4:41 pm
Speaking of things getting old, has P.L. ever told you guys his thoughts on Jason Heyward’s arbitration clock or the institution of marriage?
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
4:45 pm
Or his brackets?
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
4:45 pm
Never heard that about Morgan. That’s a great article.
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
4:46 pm
I know its just spring training, but the Braves are starting to lose games sine the better players are staying in games longer. Not a good sign. It’s all Bobby’s fault.
Crime Dog
March 23rd, 2010
4:47 pm
RHR-
I wasn’t aware he filled one (or 25) out?
FEAR
March 23rd, 2010
4:47 pm
Braves suck. Everyone go home.
wjones
March 23rd, 2010
4:48 pm
Crime Dog
“March 23rd, 2010
4:41 pm
Speaking of things getting old, has P.L. ever told you guys his thoughts on Jason Heyward’s arbitration clock or the institution of marriage?”
So should Heyward get married?
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
4:51 pm
CB- Thanks for the differentiation. I appreciate it.
CB
March 23rd, 2010
4:51 pm
You guys are leaving out a few- but none of us are right 99% of the time.
Macon Braves (RIP)
March 23rd, 2010
4:53 pm
DOB–Finally was able to listen to the whole interview on the Atlanta Baseball Talk. Just want to join my voice to the others in saying that was a great job by you, thoroughly enjoyed it.
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
4:54 pm
Umm – I thought it was runs. I thought you had to score more runs than the other team to win the game. At least that’s how the final score is kept 101
shows what you know, runs aren’t commodities. runs are results
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
4:54 pm
I agree, Macon. It was a great interview.
CB
March 23rd, 2010
4:54 pm
Anders, I have never considered you a troll. You are just a poor,pitiful Mets fan.
ncscoots
March 23rd, 2010
4:54 pm
So should Heyward get married?
Not unless they send him down first and keep his his biological clock from starting up.
He might need a little seasoning with the minor league dollies before he’s ready for the big leagues of marriage. I know, people say he has all the tools, but it’s a big step to the girls who hang out in ML parks. He definitely doesn’t want to slump there. And I mean “definitely”.
Crime Dog
March 23rd, 2010
4:56 pm
But society is going to pressure him into the racket of marriage. Of course HE doesn’t want to get married, but David’s Bridal and The Shane Company have brainwashed him into thinking he has to.
papafoxx
March 23rd, 2010
4:56 pm
If these aren’t real games does that mean Chippers injuries aren’t real
stats
March 23rd, 2010
4:56 pm
link to article with Francoeur’s OBP quote: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&id=4136793
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
4:56 pm
Hey guys, don’t feel too bad about todays game – I mean it’s not like the Braves lost to Northern Iowa. {:
Daslied
March 23rd, 2010
4:59 pm
Anders, DOB’s on vacation. Save it for when he gets back.
R
March 23rd, 2010
4:59 pm
Enter your comments here
R
March 23rd, 2010
5:00 pm
Nick, Ur a moron
ncscoots
March 23rd, 2010
5:02 pm
Yes, Crime Dog, perhaps we should just run some preventive care on the kid, go ahead and put him in Tiger’s rehab facility right now. Or make him watch a whole season’s worth of “Millionaire Matchmaker”, maybe. That might scare the everlovin’ Bridal Fair out of him.
Then, hit the archives and send him about a gazillion of Dentz’s posts on the subject. I’m sure such a smattering of the available “posts” would be enough to straighten the kid right the hell out.
Lindsey W.
March 23rd, 2010
5:03 pm
Can somebody tell me what publication was it where Francoeur was pictured with his wife and dogs?
Turning heads
March 23rd, 2010
5:04 pm
ncscoots, you sound smart. Are you gifted?
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
5:04 pm
Daslied- Not to worry. I expect that will be my theme for the 2010 season. It will not get old. At least not for me.
P'cola Brave
March 23rd, 2010
5:06 pm
Nick
I sure hope your not a baseball coach anywhere. I would hate for kids to learn about the game from an idiot like you. After reading your crap over the last few weeks its apparent your just a freaking idiot when it comes to the game of baseball.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
5:06 pm
Can somebody tell me what publication was it where Francoeur was pictured with his wife and dogs? (Lindsey W.)
I believe it was the NY Daily News Sunday edition. If not it was the NY Post Sunday paper. It was in the Sports section.
Lindsey W.
March 23rd, 2010
5:09 pm
Anders–thanks!
Alaska Dawg
March 23rd, 2010
5:14 pm
Leo is a class act. I would love to see him back in a Braves uniform some day.
Soph
March 23rd, 2010
5:17 pm
The blog was rather entertaining today. I’ll have to go back and read the first 6 pages too.
Daslied
March 23rd, 2010
5:17 pm
Cool, Anders. I was afraid your theme would be how much Francoeur has taken to NY (and vice versa).
ugaaccountant
March 23rd, 2010
5:20 pm
You folks are going to be sorry when ghost doesn’t share his $25,000 sears gift card with any of you. I mean, as many brackets as he filled out, he has to have Northern Iowa and Cornell still alive somewhere.
Ed Glennon
March 23rd, 2010
5:20 pm
Leo is great. It would be nice if he could still be in uniform. The Red Sox did it with Pesky. Maybe we could do it with Leo.
Baseball 101
March 23rd, 2010
5:20 pm
baseball [ˈbeɪsˌbɔːl]
n
1. (Team Sports / Baseball) a team game with nine players on each side, played on a field with four bases connected to form a diamond. The object is to score runs by batting the ball and running round the bases.
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
5:27 pm
Daslied – Well done. High marks for that clever diddy.
Shane
March 23rd, 2010
5:28 pm
The object is to score runs by batting the ball and running round the bases.
Right. And the team that has the higher OBP and makes outs less will score more runs than the other team.
Francouer has driven in a hundred runs before but really was not that good. Yo can have that Francouer and Ill take a high OBP guy and ill beat your brains in every day.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
5:28 pm
Is there a Mets blog out there with Brian O’David?
FEAR
March 23rd, 2010
5:29 pm
joerochester – and blogger name jeffsanfransico?
Anders
March 23rd, 2010
5:30 pm
1. (Team Sports / Baseball) a team game with nine players on each side, played on a field with four bases connected to form a diamond. The object is to score runs by batting the ball and running round the bases (Baseball 101)
This is actually the definition of National League baseball. The AL has 10 guys on each side. Nothings easy these days.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
5:30 pm
Is there a good Mets blog out there?
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
5:31 pm
FEAR
It would be in a bizarro blog.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
5:32 pm
Does anyone read Bert Blyleven’s rubbish?
Shane
March 23rd, 2010
5:33 pm
Again outs are the most precious thing in baseball. Theoretically until the third out is made a team could score infinity runs.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that the team that takes the longest to make that third out is going to have a huge advantage. And yes that means scoring alot more runs.
FEAR
March 23rd, 2010
5:33 pm
where people say how great all the players are even though the team is 40 games under .500?
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
5:34 pm
Shane’s got a Ph.D in truth telling.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
5:34 pm
FEAR
That’s a real life, Mets blog. You’ll see those everywhere.
John L
March 23rd, 2010
5:35 pm
1st time i’ve seen the Braves this year.Please tell me their not as bad as they looked today.
Willy Wally
March 23rd, 2010
5:35 pm
Looks like we’ve got another kid who just came across a Bill James abstract for the first time, and is unfortunately now going to bore us to tears with endless lectures about OBP.
wjones
March 23rd, 2010
5:36 pm
“joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
5:30 pm
Is there a good Mets blog out there?”
Much like snakes and nazis, the only good Mets blog is a dead Mets blog.
wjones
March 23rd, 2010
5:37 pm
Willy Wally
“March 23rd, 2010
5:35 pm
Looks like we’ve got another kid who just came across a Bill James abstract for the first time, and is unfortunately now going to bore us to tears with endless lectures about OBP.”
Frenchy, you changed your name!
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
5:38 pm
Whether or not you care what people outside the Braves think of a player on your team, it almost has to make you feel good to hear all the praise Heyward is getting from everybody. Even Hershiser went on and on about this kid’s plate D and balance up there.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
5:39 pm
At least he’s not talking about how stolen bases are worthless.
Lew
March 23rd, 2010
5:41 pm
Maybe we should put Shane on the back of a Baseball Card.
Lew
March 23rd, 2010
5:43 pm
Yeah, there are Mets’ bogs out there, but they stop posting in early September.
reyesisdaman
March 23rd, 2010
5:48 pm
Well,
Here are my observations. The Mets offensive looks for real. They have hit 26 homers to the Braves 10. No homers for Glaus, and only one for Chipper. Ike Davis and Fernando Martinez have both outplayed the “star” Jason Heyward, who suddenly appears to be suffering from Nate McCloutitis. It’s going to be more of the same for you Bravo fans-decent pitching but not enough offense. While I don’t think the Mets will catch the Phillies this year, I think we have an excellent chance of winning the WC this year, I think our team and our pitching staff we be better than people think. I see the Braves finishing 3rd or 4th in the division depending on the Marlins. Our offense blows the Braves offense away.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
5:50 pm
Unfortunately, one pitcher cannot start 162 games.
Lew
March 23rd, 2010
5:52 pm
joerochester-The Mets (at this point) aren’t sure they have that one pitcher ready to go for opening day, much less all season.
Glen W
March 23rd, 2010
5:53 pm
reyesisdaman (5:48)
Your run-on paragraph kept interrupting the rimshots I was hearing in my head.
Rob from SC
March 23rd, 2010
5:56 pm
I am watching the game now, as you all know I love Esco, but he better get his a$$ in front of those balls during the regular season.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
5:56 pm
Reyes has 99 problems
Rob from SC
March 23rd, 2010
5:57 pm
I am Heyward’s number 1 supporter, but I am now slightly concerned.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
5:57 pm
I give props to Mets, Nationals, Padres, and Pirates fans. They stick it out each year.
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
5:59 pm
I heard the radio interview with DOB and I appreciate the link, ABTSteve.
The 44 minutes went by fast, because it was enjoyable to listen to. Well, not all of it. There was one part I thought sucked.
“You wouldn’t believe, man, you wouldn’t believe….there’s been a relationship started on the blog. There’s a couple … there’s a guy that moved out to California and is living with the girl now. I don’t want to give you their names, but they talk about it there all the time, though, uhh … and they met through the blog. They went to a game together …. met at a game, and the next thing you know he’s up and moving across the country and he lives with her now.”
Thanks, Dave, for rubbing it in the face of the loser.
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
6:03 pm
Tom-
You had your chance
CB
March 23rd, 2010
6:04 pm
Tom, don’t feel bad. After all, he is a W& M grad- you didn’t have a real chance.
Venice Jim
March 23rd, 2010
6:05 pm
All is fair in baseball and blogging…
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
6:07 pm
*slides a shot of Jack over to Tom*
Shane
March 23rd, 2010
6:07 pm
Looks like we’ve got another kid who just came across a Bill James abstract for the first time, and is unfortunately now going to bore us to tears with endless lectures about OBP.
Im 36. Not really a kid. And ive been reading Bill James for years. I wont bore anyone with lectures on OBP unless provoked. the only reason I bother is its that important.
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
6:09 pm
All is fair in baseball and blogging…
Nice one, Jim. When I see your old nemesis, the giant pickle, I’m gonna give it your new address.
Shane
March 23rd, 2010
6:09 pm
Yeah, there are Mets’ bogs out there, but they stop posting in early September.
Then they switch over to the Yankee blogs,
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
6:10 pm
“Tom downs it, urrpp”
Rob from SC
March 23rd, 2010
6:10 pm
I don’t know if that was strike 3 to Heyward
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
6:12 pm
So Heyward struck out. It’s not like it will never happen again. (sorry for the double negatives).
Ga in Hi
March 23rd, 2010
6:23 pm
Larrrrry, what’s with being doubled off first..is it the 15 lbs or the sore feet/toes?
At any rate it was just plain bush league (u know Jeff carries a gun).
whar u have done in the past is just that, cause u can’t do it now.
Go ahead and take a powder and take COX and TP with you.
Rob from SC
March 23rd, 2010
6:25 pm
Kimbrel might make this team.
Bobbymahlom
March 23rd, 2010
6:43 pm
All you KJ lovers must like losers like him.
How did you like Chipper saying he’s out to show the young guys how it’s done, but he forgot who was playing right field when he was doubled off.
It has taken a long time for many of our write in experts to realize how good Prado is an how well he has hit the last TWO years.
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
6:47 pm
Hey Lew – guess whose mug I’m looking at right now in the April Chop Talk? I’ll scan it for ya if you haven’t seen it…hang on a min.
chris
March 23rd, 2010
6:51 pm
i agree about the concern of heyward. but not the concern that he wont produce in the major leauges this year, just the hype that he will hit .280 with around 20 homers this year. i dont see it happening for a few reasons. but this kid has great talent. he does have holes in the swing. and pitchers will know how to pitch to him after a few plate appearances. i do feel he will adjust, but guys like arod, griffey, wright, longoria, mauer. i dont think he is in that class like the hype has shown.
dogsbrekky
March 23rd, 2010
6:55 pm
Frenchy, his missus and his King Charles doggies were in the NY Post…. his wife is cute… maybe the mutts could replace him with her in RF… her arm is not up to snuff but hey he hits like a blind girl so she could do better there !
dogsbrekky
March 23rd, 2010
6:57 pm
Kimbrel looks the goods… better than Willcostya and Scott “I was torched by Torre” Proctologist
Daslied
March 23rd, 2010
6:57 pm
All you KJ lovers must love losers like him.
“All you Pizza Hut pizza lovers must love pizza like Pizza Hut’s.”
Dude, at least think about your insult before you type it.
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
7:02 pm
Lew – http://i41.tinypic.com/2hq9s3m.jpg
Emailing it too, in case you don’t see this.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
7:05 pm
Normally I wouldn’t do this, but I think it’s too funny (and I think it was overlooked!). Check out this little back and forth I had with PL this afternoon
PL: ESPN just put up a list of both key Braves addictions and losses. Kelly Johnson was noticeably absent from the key losses column.
JD: PL – what were some of the Braves’ listed addictions?
PL: jeffrey d….key addictions listed were Melky, Wagner, Glaus, and and Saito. Key losses were Garret, Mike Gonzales, Soriano and Vazquez
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
7:06 pm
I noticed that Jeffrey. What a maroon.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
7:07 pm
with an oblivious PL that is
dogsbrekky
March 23rd, 2010
7:08 pm
BTW thanks for the story on Leo… I always loved the guy… miss that rocking in the dug-out
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
7:08 pm
I noticed that Jeffrey
Oh, then sorry for quoting myself…very unprofessional
Soph
March 23rd, 2010
7:13 pm
They went to a game together …. met at a game, and the next thing you know he’s up and moving across the country and he lives with her now.
I’ve gotta listen to this interview!
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
7:14 pm
Yeah, there are Mets’ bogs out there, but they stop posting in early September.
Bogs? Hah! That has a ring to it, eh? MetsBog. I think you may be on to something, Lew…
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
7:17 pm
Oh, then sorry for quoting myself…very unprofessional
No worries, jeffrey d. I hadn’t seen it. Hey, I liked KJ as much as the next person, but I wouldn’t consider myself a Kelly-addict. There are better things to be addicted to, for sure.
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
7:19 pm
RHR, thanks for sharin’.
Good stuff, Lew. Your almost as I pictured you. In my mind, however, you smiled a little more.
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
7:19 pm
Soph – you see that GSU had their first football practice (ever) today?
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
7:21 pm
(cough)you’re (cough, cough) Your and idiot, Tom.
Soph
March 23rd, 2010
7:23 pm
jeffrey – yup, I saw the pics that AJC put up. I know there’s going to be a lot of losing before winning but it’s exciting!
jeffrey d
March 23rd, 2010
7:27 pm
Nah, Alabama should be a cakewalk…
FEAR
March 23rd, 2010
7:28 pm
so who else sucks?
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
7:29 pm
So, jeffrey d, P.L. is addicted to Melky, Wagner, Glaus, and Saito? That’s no big deal. He does, after all, live in San Francisco. (not that there’s anything wrong with that)
Soph
March 23rd, 2010
7:32 pm
Nah, Alabama should be a cakewalk…
Oh, fo’ sure. I’m worried about South Alabama! Seriously though, at least Bama could’ve been nice and played this game in Atlanta.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
7:36 pm
FEAR
The customer’s calling me right now suck. lol
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
7:43 pm
lol Jeffrey, I meant to comment but then I got busy with my who sucks summary and work and stuff. It was funny!
They went to a game together …. met at a game, and the next thing you know he’s up and moving across the country and he lives with her now.
♫ The Love Blog promises something for everyone ♫
FEAR
March 23rd, 2010
7:44 pm
joerochester – my coworkers suck
Baseball 101
March 23rd, 2010
7:50 pm
Shane @ 5:33 pm
“Again outs are the most precious thing in baseball.”
Then why are there specific strategies designed to trade an out for a run (e.g. – squeeze play, deliberately trying to hit a fly ball to the outfield to get a SF, deliberately trying to hit a grounder at the SS or 2B with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs)? Take it further – why are there strategies designed to sacrifice an out for the improved CHANCE of scoring a run?
Why do the teams who successfully execute these strategies celebrate and rejoice when they do so? Because they traded a more valuable commodity for a lesser one?
I think it’s the other way around.
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
7:59 pm
“They went to a game together …. met at a game, and the next thing you know he’s up and moving across the country and he lives with her now.
♫ The Love Blog promises something for everyone ♫
You are so right, RHR. The blog gave me my start on cirrhosis of the liver. :X
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
7:59 pm
When they say “consult your doctor before taking this medication,” is it okay to just consult Web MD?
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
8:00 pm
Why did I hit the upper case x?
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
8:01 pm
Coulda been you, Tom O.
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
8:04 pm
Why did I hit the upper case x?
Same reason you have an early start on cirrhosis?
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
8:05 pm
Bingo!
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
8:06 pm
I sense there’s a back story here long before I was a fetus on this blog.
Mekons
March 23rd, 2010
8:06 pm
Justified episode two coming on in two hours.
86-76
March 23rd, 2010
8:08 pm
Sorry Leo- But if home is so great …Why in the Hell did you cut a trail to Baltimore.????????
Roger is doing just fine!!!!
Steve from OH
March 23rd, 2010
8:11 pm
DOB–finally got around to listening to your interview over at ABT. Great stuff. Glad you get as much out of this blog as we do–because I know I really enjoy it, all in all. Great place to chat about dang near anything.
And tip o’ the cap to the guys at ABT. They do a lot of great stuff and I wish I had more time to listen to all of their stuff instead of just a select few. Really enjoyed the Javy interview as well from a little while back. Great work fellas.
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
8:14 pm
hen why are there specific strategies designed to trade an out for a run (e.g. – squeeze play, deliberately trying to hit a fly ball to the outfield to get a SF, deliberately trying to hit a grounder at the SS or 2B with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs)? Take it further – why are there strategies designed to sacrifice an out for the improved CHANCE of scoring a run?
They may work once in a while in a specific situation as a tactic, but teams that rely on them as regular strategy are always among the lowest in runs scored.
Most all GMs are now developing large stat squads and making your outs last longer is one of the most important concerns.
Too bad for you old fogies. nyah nyah !
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
8:21 pm
I agree, uncle nolie. Outs are too easy to come by. Why give them up so easily? With a few exceptions, of course. Very few.
Baseball 101
March 23rd, 2010
8:30 pm
Look at it economically. Here are the 10 highest 2009 salaries:
# Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees- $ 33,000,000
# Manny Ramirez, Los Angeles Dodgers- $ 23,854,494
# Derek Jeter, New York Yankees- $ 21,600,000
# Mark Teixeira, New York Yankees- $ 20,625,000
# Carlos Beltran, New York Mets- $ 19,243,682
# Carlos Lee, Houston Astros- $ 19,000,000
# Magglio Ordonez, Detroit Tigers- $ 18,971,596
# Johan Santana, New York Mets- $ 18,876,139
# Carlos Zambrano, Chicago Cubs- $ 18,750,000
# Barry Zito, San Francisco Giants- $ 18,500,000
The top 7 of the 10 are “run – producers”. The bottom 3 are pitchers (i.e. – “run preventers” or “out inducers”).
What is valued the most?
TnBrian
March 23rd, 2010
8:33 pm
Nobody needs to ask why we call them Mutt trolls … ever. As soon as they win a game, practice game or a real one, they come in packs. Sad.
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
8:34 pm
The bottom 3 are pitchers (i.e. – “run preventers” or “out inducers”).
What is valued the most? 101
nobody is talking pitchers, we are talking about hitters who do not make as many outs. your post proves the point completely,most of those guys have a high OBP. absolutely none of them specialize in producing runs with small ball tactics.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
8:47 pm
Where’s the diabolical hater, spike?
Steve from OH
March 23rd, 2010
8:47 pm
I don’t know why you’re starting this discussion again, baseball 101. I don’t think anyone (particularly you, it seems) wants to hear me and the others come out of our mothers’ basements spewing new-age garbage. Heck, I don’t even want to do it.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
8:48 pm
I had no idea Zambrano was overpaid by that much. Jesus.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
8:49 pm
Out of Bounds: Autistic teen has perfect bracket
http://outofbounds.nbcsports.com/2010/03/post-344.html.php
Looks like Dentz is doing pretty well this tournament.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
8:54 pm
The IPAD is insanely expensive.
bravefaninok
March 23rd, 2010
8:56 pm
C.C. Sabathia, $23,000,000 (2009-15)
you forgot CC
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
9:02 pm
C.C. Sabathia, $23,000,000 (2009-15)
bravefaninok, that may be the way it averages out, but in 2010, he only receives 15+ million.
flange1
March 23rd, 2010
9:03 pm
Hey Steve, did your guitar ever get to you?
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
9:03 pm
Joe Mauer is up there now, too.
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
9:03 pm
I think all this drinking is making me loud.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
9:05 pm
Go on eharmony, bro.
GovClintonTyree
March 23rd, 2010
9:05 pm
Nolie and Tom O’, I agree on the sacrifice thing. I’ve never seen anything quantifying it, but I want to conserve that out. I have never liked it, even back when I did it (coach’s orders). It’s stupid.
The only time I want a sacrifice is when the other pitcher is tough to reach, the eighth place hitter gets on, there are no outs, and Javier Vazquez or similar stands in. Then, maybe. I get tired of watching guys not get bunts down and I get tired of attempting to move the runner over in the middle of the lineup while sacrificing a runner. No. It’s Mauchian and it’s stupid.
Steve from OH
March 23rd, 2010
9:05 pm
flange–I ordered it, but it won’t be here for about 2 months. I can’t wait for the thing and I’ll be sure to let you know how much it rocks when I get it. It’s a custom-shop deal just because that’s how the line works, and the shop had to order a new batch, so I’ve just gotta wait, I guess. Thanks again for all the advice–it was greatly appreciated.
Steve from OH
March 23rd, 2010
9:06 pm
Allright, me and the rest of the little Lebowskis are headed off to bowling. Later, everyone.
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
9:06 pm
Tom-
Just drink more, you’ll eventually quiet down
GovClintonTyree
March 23rd, 2010
9:06 pm
joerochester with the bucket – and ONE! Count it!
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
9:10 pm
Tom-
Just drink more, you’ll eventually quiet down
True that, cabravesfan, but then I start typing in some unfamiliar language.
Lew
March 23rd, 2010
9:14 pm
Tom O’Hawke-Nah, I don’t smile much at all. I’m really much more bitter, bent and warped than I let on.
RHR-Thanks. How do you get your Chop Talk so early?
Tokyo Bravo
March 23rd, 2010
9:14 pm
Nolie,
Just wanted to give you a head’s up that the roger Corman epic “Galaxy of Terror” we discussed the other day is set to be released in July of this year, and can be preordered on Amazon.
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm
Allright, me and the rest of the little Lebowskis are headed off to bowling. Later, everyone. —- Steve from OH
As you roll down the lane of life, may you hit the pocket often, carry well, and may all your splits be converted.
robdawg08
March 23rd, 2010
9:17 pm
Pro baseball (or sports) is fantasy land financially. For example, Joe Mauer gets $180 million contract extension. The economy is in a recession,unemployment is 10 %,the federal government is 3 trillion in debt,and MLB players keep getting their millions.
I’m a fan for sure but why doesn’t the recession include pro sports ?
Can’t a pro player make it off $1 million instead of $6 million or up to $18 million per year ? If they can afford to pay players salary increases then they could reduce ticket prices for fans instead.
If a hitter plays 162 games he will get about 600 at bats. If he hits .300 he will have 180 hits for the year. Divide that into $18 million and that is $100,000 per hit and $42,857 bucks per out. Unreal.
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
9:17 pm
Tom O’Hawke-Nah, I don’t smile much at all. I’m really much more bitter, bent and warped than I let on.
That explains it, Lew. My bad.
JTH
March 23rd, 2010
9:19 pm
“Look at it economically. Here are the 10 highest 2009 salaries:
# Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees- $ 33,000,000
# Manny Ramirez, Los Angeles Dodgers- $ 23,854,494
# Derek Jeter, New York Yankees- $ 21,600,000
# Mark Teixeira, New York Yankees- $ 20,625,000
# Carlos Beltran, New York Mets- $ 19,243,682
# Carlos Lee, Houston Astros- $ 19,000,000
# Magglio Ordonez, Detroit Tigers- $ 18,971,596
# Johan Santana, New York Mets- $ 18,876,139
# Carlos Zambrano, Chicago Cubs- $ 18,750,000
# Barry Zito, San Francisco Giants- $ 18,500,000
The top 7 of the 10 are “run – producers”. The bottom 3 are pitchers (i.e. – “run preventers” or “out inducers”).
What is valued the most?”
Considering that pitchers only play every 5th day your argument is invalid. Break it down to number of games played per dollar paid then it’s pitchers by far.
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
9:20 pm
Tom-
That should be entertaining
Looking forward to it
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
9:20 pm
Welcome to the real world, Rob. lol
reyesisdaman
March 23rd, 2010
9:20 pm
why can’t my team have the success the braves have had for years and years? It’s just not fair!! ok ok ok, I’m jealous as are my fellow mets fans.
David O'Brien
March 23rd, 2010
9:21 pm
Finally spring here in Atlanta. Just grilled a couple of steaks while smoking a stogie on my patio, listening to Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit before we see him tomorrow night at Smith’s Olde Bar. I didn’t give that CD enough listens when it came out (18 Wheels of Love, you were right). Still like his solo debut more, but this one’s a solid, mellow album, perfect to listen to on a night like this.
Second episode of Justified tonight. Oh, and I finally saw The Office St. Pat’s Day episode last night. Hilarious. And got caught up on 24. Did NOT see that plot twist coming in last night’s episode.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
9:22 pm
reyes
As is the success of most businesses, it starts with management and personnel.
i can't take it anymore
March 23rd, 2010
9:23 pm
Steve, you still here?
brian
March 23rd, 2010
9:24 pm
NCAA tourney pool results so far
1 Da Right Ones 25 20 – - – Kansas 45 109
2 J-Hey bracket * 24 20 – - – Kansas 44 108
2 The Knowitalls 22 22 – - – Kansas 44 84
4 Venice Jim 25 18 – - – Syracuse 43 155
5 jeffrey d 23 18 – - – Kentucky 41 121
5 SCbravo 23 18 – - – No Pick 41 105
5 Clemson not going far 23 18 – - – Villanova 41 81
8 Out after the first round 24 16 – - – Kentucky 40 116
8 Ease in Woodstock 22 18 – - – Kansas 40 104
8 Oak Ridge Atoms – Greg in TN 24 16 – - – Kansas 40 104
11 pryguy 23 16 – - – Kentucky 39 119
11 Tarheel Blues 21 18 – - – Kansas 39 103
11 joerochester 25 14 – - – Kansas 39 103
14 beekay 20 18 – - – Kansas 38 94
15 D K 23 14 – - – Kansas St. 37 137
16 Renegator 20 16 – - – Kansas 36 92
16 clueless tiger 22 14 – - – Kansas 36 88
18 Todd’s bracket 21 12 – - – Kentucky 33 117
18 CAbravesfan 21 12 – - – Kansas 33 89
18 who’syadaddy 19 14 – - – Kansas 33 77
21 whensidslid92 – - – - – No Pick 0 –
21 braveswin – - – - – No Pick 0 -
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
9:26 pm
A lot of Kansas in there.
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
9:26 pm
cabravesfan, while I’m still typing coherently, I have a stupid question for you.
How’s working at home?
Soph
March 23rd, 2010
9:27 pm
Good to know I’m not in last place.
Chopdawg
March 23rd, 2010
9:29 pm
Picks Score Atlanta Journal-Constitution
High Score National High Score
Round 1 26/32 (81%) 52 out of 64 58 pts. 60 pts.
Round 2 9/16 (56%) 36 out of 64 52 pts. 52 pts.
Round 3 0/0 (0%) 0 out of 0 0 pts. 0 pts.
Round 4 0/0 (0%) 0 out of 0 0 pts. 0 pts.
Round 5 0/0 (0%) 0 out of 0 0 pts. 0 pts.
Round 6 0/0 (0%) 0 out of 0 0 pts. 0 pts.
Overall 35/48 (73%) 88 out of 128 104 pts. 108 pts.
Ranking
Chopdawg’s Ranking Percentile
Atlanta Journal-Constitution 167 out of 5,376 96%
National 4,733 out of 120,995 96%
That’s right…Chopdawg in the top 4%, AJC’s online contest. Final Four: Maryland, K State, Duke, WVa
FlaBravesFan1
March 23rd, 2010
9:31 pm
McFann
My 8 year old granddaughter got McCanns autograph at the game today at PSL We saw him boarding the bus and I called over to him and told him she was a catcher in her league and he smiled and came over and autographed a baseball for her. He is a class act.
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
9:33 pm
Tom-
Other then my phone not working right and my printer not printing, all is well…spent the day in sweats (cute ones, not nasty elastic waste man sweats
), barefoot, snoring dog at my feet…could be worse 
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
9:33 pm
Good to know I’m not in last place.
No, I think that would be me
Soph
March 23rd, 2010
9:33 pm
I love Mac, he’s so nice.
Baseball 101
March 23rd, 2010
9:34 pm
I resumed the argument because the statement under rebuttal was “outs are the most valuable commodity in the game”,
I do not believe that is true, and I have provided numerous reasons (from economic, tactical, and logical viewpoints) to support my belief. What I have received in return are arguments supporting the merits of OBP.
It is a cause (partial) and effect situation. High OBP (and, consequently, out avoidance) is a partial cause of increased run production. I say partial because there are times (especially in late innings of tight games) when outs are actually sacrificed in order to score runs or to even increase the probability of scoring runs.
Run production is one of the two Objects of the Game (run prevention being the other). Out avoidance is a means to that end.
And from Steve from OH: I don’t know why you’re starting this discussion again, baseball 101. I don’t think anyone (particularly you, it seems) wants to hear me and the others come out of our mothers’ basements spewing new-age garbage. Heck, I don’t even want to do it.
I don’t care if you come out of your mother’s or father’s basement spewing whatever Age garbage. Please do not be so presumptuous as to what I do and do not want to hear. Again, the discussion was what is the most valuable commodity in baseball. Runs or outs?
Runs, I say. The scoreboard tells me so.
Chopdawg
March 23rd, 2010
9:34 pm
Who cares about basketball anyway vbg
Soph
March 23rd, 2010
9:35 pm
No, I think that would be me
cab – I noticed but I didn’t want to point it out.
Although, this was the worst bracket ever for me.
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
9:37 pm
Oh, and another thing, cabravesfan. What’s with this earlier post?
RG-
)
Really? I’m sure we could find a better role for you (plus, I think you may need to fight Tom for that part
You’re right. I have a strong desire to play Dentz, and I’ll fight for that role. Right after the Israelis erect a statue of Hitler, in a Tel Aviv town park.
Man, today just isn’t one of my better days.
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
9:38 pm
Soph-
I’m either hit or miss on my brackets…one year I was 7-8 in the final 8 and the next I think I missed over half the first round…ugh!
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
9:39 pm
Tom-
Roman Gal suggested a movie based on me and VJ and wanted to play the roll of your favorite blogger…I think you would have some fun with the role
(of course, then we would have to find someone to play you so maybe that wouldn’t work- forget I suggested it! 
)
Tokyo Bravo
March 23rd, 2010
9:44 pm
Baseball note for any international player junkies. The spring HS baseball tournament was playing on TV over the weekend, and my brother-in-law tipped me off to a game being pitched by a 16 yr old lefty that might make some waves in a couple of years. Tall, lanky kid whose fastball already sits mid-high eighties and has a pretty good slurve to complement it. Pretty projectable body type. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see him throwing 93-95 in a couple of years. The annoucers said he’d picked up about 7 mph on his fastball in the last 12 months alone. Can’t remember his name right now to save my life, but he’s probably going to be a good one. Kind of reminded me of John Candelaria the way he slotted his arm. Hope the Bravos are keeping an eye on him!
Soph
March 23rd, 2010
9:46 pm
PL could play Tom and Tom could play PL. Problem solved.
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
9:48 pm
cabravesfan, a taller version of Brad Pitt, or a younger version of George Clooney would be good playing me.
Goldenglove002
March 23rd, 2010
9:52 pm
Really DOB? I thought the EMP conveniently destroying the evidence was a little bit of a giveaway.
Woo! another Francouer headline….
Tokyo Bravo
March 23rd, 2010
9:53 pm
Hey DOB, do you marinate your steaks? If so, with what? Inquiring minds want to know your spin on brilliant grilling!
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
10:00 pm
Tom-
But then who would play VJ??
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
10:02 pm
Tom-
But then who would play VJ??
Quasimoto!
brian
March 23rd, 2010
10:02 pm
how about Paul Hewitt meeting with St. John’s tonight in Atlanta (reported by Andy Katz)?
Katz reports that Tech would likely lessen or eliminate the buy out if Hewitt will leave per Katz. Katz also threw out Tubby Smith as the obvious choice for the next Tech coach.
How many coaches have been head coaches at Tech and UGA??
brian
March 23rd, 2010
10:04 pm
adding Tubby Smith to the ACC would be huge and he would be a huge get for GT (or as Stephon Marbury liked to say the University of Georgia Tech)
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
10:05 pm
Tokyo thanx for the heads up. I’ll keep an eye out for it.
Tokyo Bravo
March 23rd, 2010
10:12 pm
Always a pleasure, Nolie.
Man, DOB talking grilling has me starving, and lunch is still an hour away here. Nasty, grey day here, too, so no grilling tonight, I’m afraid. Gotta do as much of it as I can, too, as my tour here ends in a week *sigh*
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
10:15 pm
of course runs win games, we are talking about the most efficient way to score the most runs and small ball on a regular basis ain’t it.
Based on stats from real game histories, in the long run sacrificing an out for a base actually lowers the number of runs scored. When you play for one run that is usually the most that you get.
It might be appropriate at a certain time late in a game when one run can win it for you, but it is not a successful regular approach.
Believe what you will, but the conservation of outs is the hottest thing going at the new GM levels. It will only continue to grow.Team OBP correlates higher with team runs scored that any other single stat.
OK, have i bored every body enough now, Scoots, Braveheart ?? At my age I gotta write it out every so often to be sure I remember it all.
Mekons
March 23rd, 2010
10:17 pm
I’m a fan for sure but why doesn’t the recession include pro sports ?
It has. The top talent is making more than ever, but the lower tier are making a lot less. Troy Glaus took a HUGE drop in salary to prove he’s healthy. A lot of guys who would have gotten nice contracts two years ago are accepting half that. And veterans are getting deep-sixed in favor of cheap rookies. I think Sheff is still looking for a job. Garrett Anderson got a million last year, he’s working for minimum wage today, if he even gets that.
Put it this way. Johnny Depp is still making huge dollars. A lot of other former stars are working in indie movies for $200K or less.
Pennski
March 23rd, 2010
10:18 pm
DOB, do you think this is one of the best 24’s you’ve seen? I think after the last few years of average seasons, this one has been awesome!
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
10:22 pm
Tom-
That was just mean!
JTCobb
March 23rd, 2010
10:28 pm
Runs-vs-Outs debaters:
Seems to me that the debate is like capitalists arguing over which is more important, working capital or profits. It’s apples and oranges; the two are key measurements of different things..
Think of OUTS as working capital–each team gets 27 units of working capital to invest (or more accurately, “to spend”) during the game in order to earn the largest PROFIT (RUNS). So OUTS are a measure of capital to risk during the game, and RUNS are a measure of the resulting profits; i.e., the reward–the return on capital invested . Does that make sense? If nothing else, it’s a new argument to shoot holes in, so fire away!
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
10:29 pm
Haha, cabravesfan, I’m sorry. It took you a little while, to get back to me. Did you have to “Wiki”, Quasimoto?
… so no grilling tonight, I’m afraid. Gotta do as much of it as I can, too, as my tour here ends in a week *sigh*
Tokyo Bravo, you have me curious. Why does that stop you from grilling? Do you live in Northern Siberia? Do you live in a community of vegans?
san diego steve
March 23rd, 2010
10:33 pm
DOB’s blog is awesome. Does anyone know if there is another sports writer anywhere that has a bigger blog following or is DOB #1? The sports writers here in San Diego are as bad as the Padres. They cant even get this many comments from fans after the Chargers annual exit from the playoffs.
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
10:35 pm
not really all that different COBB. we are not arguing runs vs outs, we are saying that conservation of outs leads to the most runs.
Tokyo Bravo
March 23rd, 2010
10:43 pm
Tom,
I’ll be serving in Iraq for a tour, and sadly, that country is sorely lacking in Weber grills!
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
10:46 pm
RHR-Thanks. How do you get your Chop Talk so early?
Probably because I’m friends with MFIKY. But I don’t know.
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
10:54 pm
Tom,
I’ll be serving in Iraq for a tour, and sadly, that country is sorely lacking in Weber grills!
Tokyo Bravo, I was afraid it might be something like that, or else living on a submarine.
Thank you, for your service. Will you have access to the net?
MZ
March 23rd, 2010
10:58 pm
DOB ——
You seen “Brothers” yet? Got it coming via Netflix …
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
11:01 pm
MZ
Brothers was pretty good. I was expecting a different type of movie. But it’s worth watching.
JUST SAYIN'
March 23rd, 2010
11:01 pm
Ordered my MLB Extra Innings today. Cost $179.00 a $20 discount by buying before season opened. Looking forward to watching all the Braves games down here in S. Florida and being able to look in on some former Braves too, such as KJ and LaRoche.
Tokyo Bravo
March 23rd, 2010
11:04 pm
Tom, you’re too kind.
I’ll have access to the net while there, and look forward to catching lot of games on MLB.com (live broadcasts are blocked here due to contractual obligations between MLB and the TV folks here). Would rather be here in Tokyo with my family, but that’s what R&R is for, and hey, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
Alex@AuburnU
March 23rd, 2010
11:05 pm
Hey is anyone from here going to the Braves vs Cubs seeries that live near Auburn?
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
11:07 pm
I have a strong desire to play Dentz, and I’ll fight for that role. Tom
To the death!! Actually, I’m glad you mentioned that comment because I didn’t even see it…
Any last words?
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
11:07 pm
Tom-
No, I was just, you know, having a life
(In the interest of full disclosure I was reading The Fellowship of the Ring…)
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
11:08 pm
To the death!!
No! To the PAIN!!
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
11:09 pm
its a good package though it has gotten a little pricier lately.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
11:09 pm
cab-
What better role is there? I mean, obvious the role of Roman Gal is the best, but it would just be pretentious if I played the role myself.
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
11:10 pm
RG-
There’s, ah, ME!
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
11:11 pm
RG-
Come on- I was so expecting you to know where that quote came from! Don’t let me down!
Soph
March 23rd, 2010
11:12 pm
Can I be nolie?
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
11:13 pm
Soph-
You might be too young for the part…
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
11:13 pm
P.B. CAB
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
11:14 pm
No! To the PAIN!!
Ah…Never go up against a Sicilian when death is on the line!!
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
11:15 pm
nothin’ a balloon suit and a 100 pounds of make up each day couldn’t fix
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
11:15 pm
cab-
Very true. I suppose that would be the next best part.
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
11:16 pm
good for you RG
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
11:17 pm
I don’t know, Roman Gal. I thought about playing him, but then oscar-winning actor Christoph Waltz contacted me and said, “Tom, that role is not only too difficult to play, it’ll also mess you up for life”. That’s one person’s head you don’t want to get into.
So, then, without a fight, he’s all you! (snicker) (I know you don’t like emoticons, and now, I think I know why.)
Soph
March 23rd, 2010
11:18 pm
Ok, nolie – teach me how to be you.
Baseball 101
March 23rd, 2010
11:18 pm
JT Cobb @ 10:28
Good analogy re: working capital vs ROI (return on investment).
However, the original statement under rebuttal was: “outs are the most valuable commodity in the game”.
I still disagree. The scoreboard (and other things) tell me otherwise.
Tokyo Bravo
March 23rd, 2010
11:19 pm
Ah…Never go up against a Sicilian when death is on the line!!
Nor get involved in a land war in Asia.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
11:20 pm
So, then, without a fight, he’s all you!
Nah, that’s ok. I’ll be playing the role of cabravesfan. My only demand is that Patrick Wilson plays the part of Venice Jim and Gerard Butler plays the part of you. Oh, and they have to wear their Phantom of the Opera garb.
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
11:20 pm
So Roman Gal is playing Dentz, Soph is playing Nolie, Brad Pitt is playing Tom…is that right so far?
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
11:21 pm
179 isn’t too bad. Especially if you get to see nearly every game.
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
11:21 pm
You’d spend more on beer if you went to a sports bar to watch the games.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
11:21 pm
Ok, nolie – teach me how to be you. Soph
Well for starters you’ll be needing a vibrating bed…
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
11:22 pm
RG-
I’m not sure I want you playing me…
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
11:24 pm
I’m not sure I want you playing me…
It’s ok, cab. You’ll enjoy the artistic liberties I’ll take. I can be very dramatic.
Venice Jim
March 23rd, 2010
11:24 pm
But this would be like all those movies where it’s unbelievable that the handsome yet aging man ends up with the lovely young female…
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
11:24 pm
RG-
That’s what I’m afraid of
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
11:26 pm
Actually, cabravesfan, Roman Gal’s selection of Gerard Butler, even though a little older, works also.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
11:26 pm
Nor get involved in a land war in Asia.
“I’m not a witch, I’m your wife!!”
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
11:29 pm
think of the smartest, kindest most handsome & debonair man you can possibly imagine…times that by three.. and voile there you are SOPH
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
11:29 pm
But this would be like all those movies where it’s unbelievable that the handsome yet aging man ends up with the lovely young female…
As long as the part of you is being played by Patrick Wilson, it’ll be believable. Heck, I’m already half in love with the guy!
Bill
March 23rd, 2010
11:29 pm
Great job DOB..I always liked Leo and missed his rock’n in dugout. Very smart man. Would love to see him as Manager when Bobby leaves.
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
11:30 pm
But this would be like all those movies where it’s unbelievable that the handsome yet aging man ends up with the lovely young female…
Ya got that right, buddy!
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
11:31 pm
Would love to see him as Manager when Bobby leaves. BILL
that ain’t gonna happen. he won’t be pitching coach either
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
11:35 pm
think of the smartest, kindest most handsome & debonair man you can possibly imagine…times that by three.. and voile there you are SOPH
I dunno … Soph may find it easier to just play Dentz.
Soph
March 23rd, 2010
11:35 pm
think of the smartest, kindest most handsome & debonair man you can possibly imagine…times that by three.. and voile there you are SOPH
Got it, nolie! Who’s your archrival on this blog? It’s time to do some role playing.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
11:35 pm
That’s what I’m afraid of
Hey, who else here could do your Princess Bride references justice?
Soph
March 23rd, 2010
11:36 pm
Ugh, Tom. I thought about playing that part but I’d like to keep my sanity for after we finish filming.
Soph
March 23rd, 2010
11:37 pm
VJ – UNC won! On they go.
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
11:38 pm
Actually, I like one of Tom’s suggestions- the role of VJ will be played by George Clooney
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
11:39 pm
RG-
I don’t know…how do you feel about Airplane?
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
11:41 pm
Come on, cab. Do you want this or THIS for VJ?
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
11:43 pm
how do you feel about Airplane? –cab
Do you like movies about gladiators?
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
11:43 pm
Ugh, Tom. I thought about playing that part but I’d like to keep my sanity for after we finish filming. — Soph
cabravesfan, I think I finally found a real part for Quasimoto.
Soph
March 23rd, 2010
11:45 pm
Well, I’m off to bed. Remember, I have dibs on the part of nolie! Night all.
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
11:48 pm
well Coach always makes a good punching bag Soph. and for real evil we have that sociopath Spike.
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
11:49 pm
RG-
OK, you can play me
(and I still want Clooney, and since I am casting, I get what I want!)
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
11:50 pm
Good night, Soph.
I think I should direct this movie. After all, I was in the middle of this epic, as it was unfolding. Besides, if I direct, I can make sure that I don’t come off as the loser that I am.
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
11:52 pm
OK, you can play me CAB
good choice. I heard she has been practicing her California rolling stops a lot lately.should add real credibility.
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
11:53 pm
Well, if Patrick Wilson plays the part of Tom, I’m afraid the movie may take an unexpected turn…
Tom O'Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
11:54 pm
nolie
March 23rd, 2010
11:56 pm
is Patrick Flip’s brother?
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
11:56 pm
Sorry Tom- I am also taking on the director roll (as well as the producing, writing, casting…
)
Venice Jim
March 23rd, 2010
11:57 pm
How much rolling will the director be doing? Oh – role – sorry
cabravesfan
March 23rd, 2010
11:57 pm
And we now have the perfect dramatic ending…me throwing VJ out of my house
Roman Gal
March 23rd, 2010
11:58 pm
I heard she has been practicing her California rolling stops a lot lately.should add real credibility. nolie
It’s true. Red octagons have little effect on me…
joerochester
March 23rd, 2010
11:59 pm
Wilson was pretty good in that Hard Candy film
Roman Gal
March 24th, 2010
12:02 am
Fraid not, nolie.
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/37802407.jpg
nolie
March 24th, 2010
12:02 am
I see TOM as more the Sterling Holloway type myself
nolie
March 24th, 2010
12:03 am
wow, is that a picture of you RG???
GatorBrave
March 24th, 2010
12:04 am
Been working a lot lately and too tired to check all the recent comments….so how has heyward looked lately?
Roman Gal
March 24th, 2010
12:04 am
Fraid not, nolie.
Tom O'Hawke
March 24th, 2010
12:06 am
Sorry Tom- I am also taking on the director roll (as well as the producing, writing, casting…
) — cabravesfan
How much rolling will the director be doing? Oh – role – sorry — Venice Jim
And we now have the perfect dramatic ending…me throwing VJ out of my house —- cabravesfan
THE END
Steve from OH
March 24th, 2010
12:06 am
i can’t take it anymore–I’m here now, but I’m sure you’re gone. I left a message a few nights ago wondering how the missus did in the match. Hoping for good things!
Tom O'Hawke
March 24th, 2010
12:14 am
I see TOM as more the Sterling Holloway type myself
Sterling Holloway, nolie?!? This won’t soon be forgotten.
The best thing is that it’s late, and most don’t know who the hell Sterling Holloway is.
nolie
March 24th, 2010
12:14 am
http://images.google.com/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&q=sterling%20holloway&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
this is TOM O, no doubt.
Venice Jim
March 24th, 2010
12:15 am
Sterling Holloway – the voice of Winnie-the-Pooh!
nolie
March 24th, 2010
12:15 am
he did a great Pooh
cabravesfan
March 24th, 2010
12:16 am
Winnie the Pooh! Awww
(meanwhile, thanks Tom- you just saved me several weeks of scriptwriting
)
Tom O'Hawke
March 24th, 2010
12:16 am
Been working a lot lately and too tired to check all the recent comments….so how has heyward looked lately? — GatorBrave
Who?
nolie
March 24th, 2010
12:18 am
you know TOM, whose-his-nickname. struck out today. needs to go down for a few months
Tom O'Hawke
March 24th, 2010
12:19 am
(meanwhile, thanks Tom- you just saved me several weeks of scriptwriting
)
cabravesfan, don’t relax too much. Wait ’til you see the sequel. It’ll be a lollapalooza!
nolie
March 24th, 2010
12:22 am
does the original looser get the girl in the sequel? Does VJ turn out to be a cad? Will PL show up and steal her away from everybody? Could be exciting indeed.
cabravesfan
March 24th, 2010
12:25 am
Tom-
sequel? Does this mean I have to let VJ back into my house?
Tom O'Hawke
March 24th, 2010
12:30 am
Tom-
sequel? Does this mean I have to let VJ back into my house?
cabravesfan, don’t be making any hasty decisions, now.
Well, it’s probably OK, if it’s raining or what not.
Thanagar
March 24th, 2010
12:30 am
That plot twist with Dana on 24 was asinine. Why didn’t she have her terrorist buds off those two punks that were bothering her? Instead she jeopardized her cover by doing it herself.
cabravesfan
March 24th, 2010
12:33 am
Tom-
It doesn’t rain here…but since I am getting a nice back rub, I suppose I should keep him around for a while longer
Tom O'Hawke
March 24th, 2010
12:33 am
does the original loser get the girl in the sequel? Does VJ turn out to be a cad? Will PL show up and steal her away from everybody? Could be exciting indeed.
cabravesfan, I think you have your promoter, for the sequel!
cabravesfan
March 24th, 2010
12:37 am
Except for the whole “will PL show up and steal her away” part…
Tom O'Hawke
March 24th, 2010
12:41 am
…but since I am getting a nice back rub…
Sacre bleu!, oh mon dieu!, and poop! I’ve lost her twice! (in the same episode)
cabravesfan
March 24th, 2010
12:43 am
Tom-
Did you really just say “poop”?
nolie
March 24th, 2010
12:46 am
that was just to increase viewer tension CAB. No way we let it actually happen. He comes down from Fisco and gets pushy. Jim and Tom join together to give him his just deserts and y’all live happily ever after in a menage a trois
cabravesfan
March 24th, 2010
12:50 am
Nolie-
Works for me
Tom O'Hawke
March 24th, 2010
12:51 am
Tom-
Did you really just say “poop”?
cabravesfan, I was wondering how that snuck in there, too. I’m blaming it on the massive amounts of alcohol I’ve consumed since, you know, “The Traverse Incident”.
nolie
March 24th, 2010
12:53 am
“The Traverse Incident”.
and there we have the title for our magnum opus.
nolie
March 24th, 2010
12:57 am
CAB yeah, TOM is a likable guy, the audience will want to see him succeed too.
Tom O'Hawke
March 24th, 2010
1:01 am
and y’all live happily ever after in a menage a trois
That sure beats what I’ve got now.
Nolie-
— cabravesfan
Works for me
If we truly live in a democratic society, that would make it, at least, 2 out of 3.
Somehow, I have a strong feeling that democracy is about to be shot to hell.
Tom O'Hawke
March 24th, 2010
1:04 am
CAB yeah, TOM is a likable guy …
Look at nolie, trying to make up for that “Sterling Holloway” comment.
You’ll have to do better than that, my friend.
cabravesfan
March 24th, 2010
1:04 am
Tom-
I’m sure you and VJ can work something out
Tom O'Hawke
March 24th, 2010
1:17 am
Tom-
I’m sure you and VJ can work something out
LAdy, the last time we “worked something out”, he left me beaten up at the airport. It was like a scene out of “Casablanca”, except totally different, with a lot more violence.
Hey, I had a lot of laughs tonight! A lot more than I can remember in quite a while. Unfortunately, I have to go. I hope to get back soon.
Good night, all…
David O'Brien
March 24th, 2010
4:04 am
Tokyo Bravo: Went with the Stubb’s beef marinade tonight, plus butter and some Montreal steak seasoning (spicy version).
Braveheart
March 24th, 2010
7:05 am
OK, have i bored every body enough now, Scoots, Braveheart ?? At my age I gotta write it out every so often to be sure I remember it all.
Maybe we just need to reprint the 8,769 posts Shaun made the first 2 or 3 years of the blog on the virtues of out avoidance.
CB
March 24th, 2010
7:25 am
Out avoidance? Sounds like a winning argument to me- how could you possibly ever lose a game? lol
jeffrey d
March 24th, 2010
7:35 am
I wish there were more people on at the 7:00 hour. Maybe if we weren’t up all night talking about Winnie the Pooh…
tiger297
March 24th, 2010
7:51 am
anybody know the schedule of pitchers today…working from home so i can watch the game
CB
March 24th, 2010
7:56 am
tiger, I know Hudson and Jo Jo are scheduled.
flange1
March 24th, 2010
8:00 am
Please Braveheart, NO!
Once is enough for the opuses on out avoidance!!!
Couch Tater
March 24th, 2010
8:17 am
Noxious fumes blowing in from Lake Michigan.
Cubs special assistant Greg Maddux has been “exactly what I wanted him to be,” said general manager Jim Hendry.
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/617/hendry-marvels-madduxs-impact-on-cubs
Jeff R
March 24th, 2010
8:18 am
DOB, nice interview with Leo.
Unfortunate that Maddux isn’t part of the Braves’ universe. And its more unfortunatae that he’s in a front office job with the Cubs rather than down on the field working with pitchers in some capacity. If I were a young pitcher on my way up, I’d want Maddux around to pick his brains. Learn from the best…
Jeff R
March 24th, 2010
8:20 am
Couch Tater… I wrote my entry before you posted the link re: Maddux. So he is on the field helping young pitchers, I guess. Wish Madduz was doing it for the Braves instead.
Escobar for Supreme Court
March 24th, 2010
8:29 am
I would take the young pitchers learning from Smoltz before Maddox, all they would learn from him is how to shaft a team in Arbitration
jeffrey d
March 24th, 2010
8:39 am
Yes, that’s all “Maddox” has to offer. Besides that, he’s worthless.
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
8:43 am
jeffrey d-
Maddux always took care of Maddux, no doubt he could teach, but to lose Millwood did put the organization in some jeopardy. I mean don’t tell Schuerholz you won’t accept Arb then accept it, IMO, that’s a little sketchy.
McFann
March 24th, 2010
8:44 am
FlaBravesFan1–
Alright!
Thanks for sharing. Glad you and your daughter were able to catch him! And that BMac–yes, a class act for sure. Success ain’t gone to his head!
Soph I love Mac, he’s so nice.
For those who weren’t aware, that goes for me, too!
Escobar for Supreme Court
March 24th, 2010
8:45 am
Jeffrey D
You are 100% right he is worthless, in the post season.
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
8:48 am
Escobar-
Watch out, you’ll meet much resistance here regarding Maddux slightly less tham dominating post season efforts.
todd h
March 24th, 2010
8:48 am
maddux is a baseball genius – plain and simple.
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
8:50 am
todd h-
No doubt, purely genius.
CB
March 24th, 2010
8:51 am
McFann, they know from one end of the country to the other that you love McCann. Many other countries speak about your undying love and they use it for an example to teach their children. You also inspire many to watch Mr. Ed to learn life’s lessons.
jeffrey d
March 24th, 2010
8:52 am
You are 100% right he [Maddux] is worthless, in the post season.
Did DOB bake and pass out some stupid muffins this morning?
i can't take it anymore
March 24th, 2010
8:53 am
Steve
Good news on the wife. She matched at Michigan. That means we are moving to Ann Arbor for 7 long ones.
Soph
March 24th, 2010
8:59 am
well Coach always makes a good punching bag Soph. and for real evil we have that sociopath Spike. nolie
Ok, nolie – I’ll keep that in mind. I can’t be patient like you though so I may go overboard a bit when they say something stupid.
McFann
March 24th, 2010
9:01 am
CB they know from one end of the country to the other that you love McCann. Many other countries speak about your undying love and they use it for an example to teach their children.
Aw, shucks! How things get around…
You also inspire many to watch Mr. Ed to learn life’s lessons.
That is also what I’m here for.
flange1
March 24th, 2010
9:01 am
i can’t take it anymore,
Congrats to the wife!
I am sure Steve will be envious of you guys moving to Michigan, he loves that state so much!!
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
9:02 am
Jeffrey d-
11 season in Atlanta with a 2.63 ERA and 4-8 with a 3.42 ERA in NLCS games, almost a full run higher. Very good, probably great, but still off the absolute greatness displayed during the season. And yes, he is a first ballot guy and one of the greatest pitchers ever.
Escobar for Supreme Court
March 24th, 2010
9:03 am
Alright Geoff no need to break down to insults now just because you can not counter points correctly. First of all I would like to say and I will stand by the fact that Maddux is not a GREAT postseason pitcher just a middle of the road guy. 11-14 overall in the 13 seasons he was there. He has a good S.O. to B.B. ratio but that is his MO with out that control he would have been meat. Further more a 3.28 ERA in the post season is not great. The great pitchers have it in the middle to low 2’s. So with that being said I realize that none of the Braves pitchers really have great stats because they did not hit, at all. Unfortunately everyone knows the post season is about pitching and making the 3-4 runs a game you get count.
jeffrey d
March 24th, 2010
9:04 am
Very good, probably great, but still off the absolute greatness displayed during the season
Well he’s facing the best competition in the league. How are you gonna complain about a 2.63 ERA? And how is somebody gonna call that “worthless”?
Soph
March 24th, 2010
9:07 am
How did you get Geoff from jeffrey?
jeffrey d
March 24th, 2010
9:09 am
Escobar – So who would you consider a “great” postseason pitcher? I see nothing wrong with Maddux’s 3.27 CAREER ERA in the postseason. That’s also considering that 11 of those ERs came in 7 innings while with the Cubs.
No, you’re right. Maddux is completely worthless
Escobar for Supreme Court
March 24th, 2010
9:09 am
Soph I was making fun of him its how the French spell Jeff, thank you come again.
jeffrey d
March 24th, 2010
9:09 am
Maybe he’s imagining that I look like the giraffe from Toys R Us
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
9:11 am
jeffrey d-
I’m just not a big fan of his post season period. And I don’t think he should of left Schuerholz holding a 16 million dollar bag forcing him to trade Millwood. I always considered Maddux a mercenary. I will not argue his regular season prowess because he was truely great.
jeffrey d
March 24th, 2010
9:12 am
Oh, that was making fun? PL came up with better stuff than that.
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
9:13 am
jeffrey d-
With Atlanta in NLCS games 4-8, 3.42 ERA. You know, the last step before the WS.
Escobar for Supreme Court
March 24th, 2010
9:13 am
Ok if we are going to single game/season accounts I could bring the point of him posting a 0.00 in 2008 over 3 games but only 4 innings into the argument and that helped drop his ERA a decent amount or the ‘02 and ‘03 season where he played 6 innings and gave up 2 runs in each game help lower his ERA. I see you not wanting to talk about the times he posted and 14.14 an 11.25 and a 9.00 in ‘89 ‘00 ‘08 respectfully.
jeffrey d
March 24th, 2010
9:13 am
And I don’t think he should of left Schuerholz holding a 16 million dollar bag forcing him to trade Millwood.
I completely agree. I’m just trying to prove the obvious point that Maddux isn’t “worthless” in the postseason.
Soph
March 24th, 2010
9:14 am
Soph I was making fun of him its how the French spell Jeff, thank you come again.
Maybe he’s imagining that I look like the giraffe from Toys R Us
Yeah, I didn’t realize Geoffrey the giraffe was French too.
jeffrey d
March 24th, 2010
9:15 am
I see you not wanting to talk about the times he posted and 14.14 an 11.25 and a 9.00 in ‘89 ‘00 ‘08 respectfully
What? I’m talking about the time he posted a 3.27 ERA over 198 Total Postseason Innings. Is that sample size not big enough for you?
Escobar for Supreme Court
March 24th, 2010
9:15 am
Oh, that was making fun? PL came up with better stuff than that
Like saying did DoB bake stupid muffins this morning because truly that was genius I felt like I was in pre school so I retorted with an equally bad remark
David O'Brien
March 24th, 2010
9:15 am
Braves LINEUP for Wednesday:
Cabrera 8
Prado 4
Chipper 5
Glaus 3
McCann 2
Escobar 6
Heyward 9
Diaz 7
Hudson 1
McFann
March 24th, 2010
9:16 am
Thanks for the lineup, Chief!
Escobar for Supreme Court
March 24th, 2010
9:19 am
iight killer he is with out a doubt that the best pitcher ATL has ever seen and will ever see because he has a 3.27 ERA in the post season. Glavine had a 3.30 and Smoltz 2.67 both have more innings than Maddux. Who is better? My original point was that he robbed ATL and I wouldn’t want him teaching young players to scalp organizations like he did.
sidslidkid
March 24th, 2010
9:20 am
good lookin’ lineup.
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
9:22 am
jeffrey d-
Correction, 3.67 in in NLCS mostly bumped by the horrible start in 1989 when he wasn’t a Brave. His fate could’ve been different with more run support. My opinion is completely subjective and filled with flaw, but I’m still not impressed with his post season performance. Any thing I say is completely refuttable, maybe I was expecting too much when it really mattered.
Lew
March 24th, 2010
9:23 am
I’ve always realized that this Blog is a step above any other sports blog in the U.S., but our own movie? It would have to be the Night Shift, though, if you want to interest Scorcese. The Day Shift is too rational for good theater,
Braveheart-I think you missed one or two of Shaun’s lectures. I’m sure there were more. Just remember – we don’t want to know the truth.
jeffrey d
March 24th, 2010
9:26 am
I thought “Stupid Muffins” was pretty funny actually
iight killer he is with out a doubt that the best pitcher ATL has ever seen and will ever see because he has a 3.27 ERA in the post season
Is that what I said? All I was doing was pointing out how dumb it was to say that Maddux was “worthless” in the postseason. Anyway, we’re just going to go back and forth…not going to accomplish anything. Sorry I was rude.
18 Wheels of Love
March 24th, 2010
9:26 am
Methinks McLouth will not be the leadoff come opening day….unless Bobby has opted to get him 9 AB’s ina minor league game. Bobby almost always allows his starters to play through slumps like this in ST and even the regular season. I think Melky might be the guy.
Of course I’ve been wrong once before.
jeffrey d
March 24th, 2010
9:26 am
Wouldn’t a night shift movie just involve a bunch of people drinking for 90 minutes?
Trey
March 24th, 2010
9:27 am
Thought some of you might like this video of my Braves spring training trip.
http://vimeo.com/10397765
i can't take it anymore
March 24th, 2010
9:28 am
flange1
Thanks, man. We are really excited about the move. I am just a little nervous about the snow.
We hear that Ann Arbor really is a great place to live.
2010 Braves year
March 24th, 2010
9:28 am
If Leo came back to the braves we would have to trade Hanson and Jurrjens and all the other young pitchers because Leo doesnt like the kids.
CB
March 24th, 2010
9:29 am
Lew, I saw the picture of you in Chop Talk and you really are not that big. The way you described yourself I was looking for someone much bigger,kind of like one of those guys on The Biggest Loser.
Escobar for Supreme Court
March 24th, 2010
9:32 am
Jeff I would think it was funny if I was the one saying it but I wasn’t and it was about me so no I didn’t laugh and your right we are just going back and forth but I still think when It mattered he choked. Aside from one great year in the post season he got pounded a lot. Thats the last I’m saying on it though.
jeffrey d
March 24th, 2010
9:32 am
Isn’t that the after picture, though?
Lew
March 24th, 2010
9:37 am
CB-Dude, when I started dieting in January 2009, I weighed 330 pounds. That’s pretty much in Biggest Loser territory. But thanks. I AM thinner. Bobby Dews said he almost didn’t recognize me.
Lew
March 24th, 2010
9:38 am
jeffrey d-No, it’s really a in the middle picture. I still have about 75 pounds left to lose.
Poorbrave
March 24th, 2010
9:41 am
Tim B, I too think Greg Mad Dog would make a great mgr. Why not?
CB
March 24th, 2010
9:42 am
Lew, also the day I was looking for you is the same day they were taping the Peter Moylan blooper intro he was trying to get thru with Billy Wagner giving him a hard time. Moylan didn’t have a chance and it was funny to listen to.
Dang ...
March 24th, 2010
9:42 am
18 Wheels of Love, me thinks you’re right. Cabrera WORKS-THE-COUNT better than Nate. Though he’s not exactly a “patient” hitter, he certainly seems to have a better idea of what to do leading off. Nate might just excel hitting 7th or 8th, probably in that 8 spot.
I look at it like this….. you could platoon a Diaz/Cabrera at leadoff and keep Martin in his 2 spot and be just fine. Neither one of those guys are burners, but still have decent enough speed to steal you a base now and then. It’s not like Bobby would let Nate steal 30 bags if he were getting on base a lot at leadoff anyways.
If Chipper and Glaus stay healthy and McCann-Escobar just do what they’ve always done than whatever Heyward gives you is icing on the cake. I didn’t really like CJ’s comment that the lineup isn’t the same without Heyward in it. Why put more on the shoulders of a rookie than necessary?
BossLady
March 24th, 2010
9:45 am
Tom O’Hawke
March 23rd, 2010
5:59 pm
I heard the radio interview with DOB and I appreciate the link, ABTSteve.
The 44 minutes went by fast, because it was enjoyable to listen to. Well, not all of it. There was one part I thought sucked.
“You wouldn’t believe, man, you wouldn’t believe….there’s been a relationship started on the blog. There’s a couple … there’s a guy that moved out to California and is living with the girl now. I don’t want to give you their names, but they talk about it there all the time, though, uhh … and they met through the blog. They went to a game together …. met at a game, and the next thing you know he’s up and moving across the country and he lives with her now.”
Thanks, Dave, for rubbing it in the face of the loser.
Where is this link? How can I hear the full interview?
stats
March 24th, 2010
9:50 am
DOB interview here: http://atlantabaseballtalk.com/
Brian from SC
March 24th, 2010
9:52 am
I don’t necessarily disagree that Cabrera should be given a shot at leadoff, but he most certainly does not work the count better than McLouth by any measure. McLouth walks more (9.3% to 8.0%) and sees more pitches (3.91 Pit/PA to 3.70). Cabrera swings at the first pitch far more (26% to 17%). McLouth gets himself to a 3-1 count more often (15% to 9%), and a 3-2 count more often (13% to 12%).
Lew
March 24th, 2010
9:52 am
CB-Yeah, Moylan is a trip. Sometime when The Grinch is posting, ask him about Moylan/Hanson at the batting cages in February. Funny story, but Grinch should tell it.
Dang ...
March 24th, 2010
9:52 am
Trey– wasn’t that the song on Police Academy 4 on your video? I liked your video.
Drew
March 24th, 2010
9:54 am
2010 BRAVES YEAR… What do you mean by Leo doesn’t like the kids? If you ever listen to the guy talk he loves these kids. I don’t see why he wouldn’t… who wouldn’t like kids this young that are smart about the game and know how to carry themselves in the bigs?
That being said… I like Leo but I’m also not in a “Bring Leo back” mode right now. Hopefully the Braves will have few injuries to speak of this year which has been 1 of the complaints against Roger since he took over the job. Well, that and the bullpen for a few years.
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
9:55 am
If Cabrera is consistent at reaching base as a leadoff hitter, say 370-380 OBP, he’ll be starting everyday. If Cabrera succeeds in this role, the 3 players rotating for the last 2 spots are Heyward, McLouth and Diaz. Most likely you’ll see a Diaz/McLouth platoon in left.
Dang ...
March 24th, 2010
9:58 am
Brian from SC– what are Melky’s numbers hitting leadoff in his career? Not hitting lower in the lineup with the Yankees. DOB gave us some of his career leadoff numbers, though, a small sample size. I didn’t realize that about Nate because watching him last year and some this ST he just seems to always be a bit ansty up there. But, stats don’t lie, or d they? LOL
Lew
March 24th, 2010
9:59 am
Drew-I don’t think it’s a matter of the Kids we have now, but it’s been pretty well publicized that some of the Kids pitching for the Braves during Leo’ pitching coach tenure didn’t really get on with Leo all that well – one of them was Jason Marquis.
If you go back and look at Leo’s days with the Braves, many of his biggest success stories were transforming pitchers like Ashby, Burkett and Jaret Wright back to a semblance of effectiveness and not turning Kids into Superstars.
I believe that most of us feel that almost anyone could have mentored Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz and that it had more to do with their ability and less with Leo’s tutelage.
Brian from SC
March 24th, 2010
9:59 am
thinbreakness, that would be asking Cabrera to maintain an OBP 40-50 points above his career average. I hope he does that, but I wouldn’t hold my breath on it.
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
10:00 am
Diaz/McLouth platoon means Cabrera moves to Left whatever, point is, if Cabrera solves the leadoff problem, your 1-7 or 1-6 will be permanent. Less batting order disruption when you substitute.
Brian from SC
March 24th, 2010
10:03 am
Dang…Cabrera’s got a career .290/.373/.408 line in the leadoff spot, albeit at a small sample size. McLouth’s is .260/.345/.458.
There is probably something to be said about Cabrera trying to be more patient when he hits at the top as opposed to the bottom. But I don’t think it’s a big enough factor for him to be able to maintain a .370 OBP over a long period of time. But it wouldn’t be the first time someone has made a jump like that at his age. I’ll take it, but I’m not counting on it.
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
10:05 am
Brian-
Agree, it’s a stretch. But it might put Diaz and McLouth in better run producing situations. But I do agree with you that it’s probably asking too much of Melky.
Brian from SC
March 24th, 2010
10:05 am
I noticed that putting “Dang…” in front of my post made it sound like I was shocked by the stats I posted, while in reality I was just referring to the previous poster, lol.
Brian from SC
March 24th, 2010
10:07 am
I agree…IF Cabrera was able to get on base at that clip, it would help get those 7-type hitters like McLouth and Diaz down in the lineup where they would be best suited.
Drew
March 24th, 2010
10:09 am
LEW…
Understood… I was throwing it out there that the kids that we have now (JJ and Tommy) seem to be far enough beyond there years to where they know their pitches. They know there arms. And they seem to know there work ethic. Which is why I kind of put them in that same category with Maddox, Glav, and Smoltz (as far as potential but not as far as legacy obviously.)
Let’s not forget that during the Braves streak, he was able to piece together quite a bullpen. From long-reliever to closer there were definitely some good years. That is what I give Leo more credit for than the Big 3 starters IMO.
McFann
March 24th, 2010
10:11 am
So Lew’s in the April ChopTalk?? Dang…when’s MINE gonna get here?
Soon, I’m sure…
Drew
March 24th, 2010
10:11 am
Lew… all of this is nor naught as far as I’m concerned. I figure, if it ain’t broke, why fix it? And Roger has himself a heckuva staff to work with right now. Here’s hoping the starters and the pen stay healthy and produce and all is well.
Lew
March 24th, 2010
10:16 am
Drew-I agree – they’re not ditching McDowell, nor should they. Leo’s tenure was what it was, but time to move on definitely came and he went. Not so sure with Kids like Teheran, Vizcaino and DelGado in the wings that Leo would be the Go-To guy in this case, anyway.
McFann-My copy won’t be here until late next week. RHR claims it’s her having MFIKY as her Enforcer that gets her’s there faster. Far be it from me to doubt her. She’ll give me a nickname if I’m not careful – or make me face down that cold steel stare from 60 feet away.
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
10:16 am
Drew-
I just thought it odd when Leo left no one talked as if he’d be missed or what a big lose it was to the organization. Everyone wished him luck and were grateful for the contributions he made but never explained what those contributions were. Can’t argue that he was our pitching coach for what, 14 years?
DAP
March 24th, 2010
10:18 am
lew, i seem to remember that tim hudson and mazonne didnt exactly get along great either. anyone else remember that?
ugaaccountant
March 24th, 2010
10:21 am
“Greg Maddux worthless in the postseason?”
I’d hate to see what posters like this would think if they were say a Mets fan after you get past Johann.
Lew
March 24th, 2010
10:22 am
DAP-I believe there were difficulties with Jason Schmidt, too.
ugaaccountant
March 24th, 2010
10:23 am
I can’t imagine why anyone wants to dump McDowell. Does he get no credit for bringing along great rookies 2 years in a row? What about helping Kawakami make adjustments?
I don’t judge a pitching coach at all by how well his 15 million a year veteran is doing. D. Lowe should know more about pitching than any coach in the league, that’s why he’s making 15 mil a year.
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
10:23 am
DAP-
This not supportable, but it seems I remember that Leo didn’t really work well with young pitchers. Maybe a little too rigid. I think McDowell is super and we are lucky to have him. He seems respected and even the vets (Lowe) have sought his counsel. This sounds like so much homerism, I know.
ugaaccountant
March 24th, 2010
10:25 am
Agreed Lew – If McDowell leaves in the next couple of years for whatever reason, we should look to a pitching coach that will help us transform our next wave of young power arms into the best starting 5 in baseball.
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
10:31 am
Looked at the box from yesterday and see that Proctor had a little trouble finding the zone. Did anyone see him pitch and if so, what did he look like?
CB
March 24th, 2010
10:35 am
It would seem many on here are very worried about the leadoff position too much,I think we have many options. The players we currently have is full of 1 and 2 and 7 and 8 hitters. We really need at least one more power hitter to be a strong lineup- those who are counting on Heyward to be that hitter may be sorely disappointed in his rookie year. Here is hoping I am wrong.
BossLady
March 24th, 2010
10:35 am
Thanks stats
Trey06
March 24th, 2010
10:40 am
Thanks Dang… LOL I’ll have to watch Police Academy 4 again to see.
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
10:41 am
CB-
I think this team is quite capable of hitting home runs and that’s why I’d argue that the leadoff may not matter.
jeffrey d
March 24th, 2010
10:42 am
It would seem many on here are very worried about the leadoff position too much,I think we have many options
The problem is that people are scared if McLouth is struggling Bobby will pull a KJ on him. KJ couldn’t get it out of the infield, but Bobby kept putting him at the top of the order.
DAP
March 24th, 2010
10:44 am
CB We really need at least one more power hitter to be a strong lineup-
what kind of hitter qualifies?
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
10:45 am
jeffrey d-
Hope you realize that I go heavy handed on Maddux for no real legitimate reason. No hard fellings Dude and I agree/understand with your perspective.
McFann
March 24th, 2010
10:46 am
Lew–
Sweet! Can’t wait to get it!
jeffrey d
March 24th, 2010
10:46 am
thin – Not a problem at all. I understand a lot of people are upset with Maddux for that whole arbitration fiasco. I guess my personality is a lot more forgiving than others’
jeffrey d
March 24th, 2010
10:49 am
Aren’t your Chop Talk magazines addressed to “McFann”?
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
10:50 am
jeffrey d-
The greatest games I ever saw pitched were those by Maddux. It seems like ther were tons of complete game wins while throwing 92 pitches.
Lew
March 24th, 2010
10:53 am
I just started reading a Robert K. Tannenbaum book and noticed the cover design was by (I Kid you not), Carlos Beltran. Wondered what Ole Carlos was up to since he sure as hell ain’t playing baseball. Awfully expensive paperback cover, though, at over $19 mil a year. Isn’t it amazing what the Mets’ outrageous salary level supports?
Brian from SC
March 24th, 2010
10:55 am
Question for blog veterans: When Carroll posts a blog in DOB’s stead, as she did this morning, do y’all stay on DOB’s latest and continue chatting? I didn’t notice much movement over to the new blog this time.
Lew
March 24th, 2010
10:55 am
Greatest game I saw pitched was on Sunday June 21, 1964 – a 90 pitch Perfect Game by Jim Bunning (the current KY. Senator) over the NY Mets (an added bonus). Watched that sucker on TV, just like I did Randy Johnson’s Perfect Game.
Lew
March 24th, 2010
10:57 am
Brian-Could that be because we’ve been talking all morning and no one has come here (before you) to let us know that “new bloggage”, as DOB would call it, is available?
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
10:57 am
Lew-
Amazing how that Dude retreated on all those people in Detroit who supported him during his Baseball career.
flange1
March 24th, 2010
10:57 am
DOB,
Finally got the time to listen to your interview! As a long time reader, I want to again thank you for all the work you do to get us Braves information 24/7.
Most of us long timers understand the amount of work you put in and ALL of us appreciate the blog!
McFann
March 24th, 2010
10:58 am
jeffrey d–
But of course! (Though they’ve got my last name on there, too.)
Lew
March 24th, 2010
11:00 am
tb-You mean Bunning? He pitched that Perfect Game as a member of the Phillies. He DID pitch a NO Hitter with the Tigers, but not the Perfect Game. I believe he’s the only pitcher to throw No Hitter’s in both leagues.
Better pitcher than a Senator, I suppose, though that’s a topic for another forum.
thinbreakness
March 24th, 2010
11:02 am
Lew-
Agreed and I do apologize for the reference, just struck me as selfish. Again apologize.
itcouldbeworse
March 24th, 2010
11:03 am
NEW BLOG…just to let you know
Brian from SC
March 24th, 2010
11:03 am
Lew, I guess that answers my question. Glad to be of service.
RHR
March 24th, 2010
11:26 am
Cabrera 8
Prado 4
Chipper 5
Glaus 3
McCann 2
Escobar 6
Heyward 9
Diaz 7
I heart this lineup so much.
RHR
March 24th, 2010
11:30 am
RHR claims it’s her having MFIKY as her Enforcer that gets her’s there faster. Far be it from me to doubt her. She’ll give me a nickname if I’m not careful – or make me face down that cold steel stare from 60 feet away.
That’s exactly right. Don’t think that just because he’s in Tampa that people in the A have forgotten that he will kill them.
RHR
March 24th, 2010
11:30 am
If he feels like it.
RHR
March 24th, 2010
11:36 am
If he doesn’t feel like it he’ll just make a note of it and kill you when he’s feeling better.
RHR
March 24th, 2010
11:36 am
Last!
phoenix falcon
March 24th, 2010
12:16 pm
” ♦ On what made the Braves such a great place for pitchers: “It’s funny. I try to explain that to other organizations, how it was run here and how you get it done, and they don’t want to believe you. ‘What kind of running program did you have?’ I told them, Well they ran out in the outfield, then I told them to add two [sprints] every day, but I wasn’t counting. And they [other teams' officials] say, well what about …”
WHAT???????????????????????????????????????????????????
Renegator
March 24th, 2010
1:05 pm
Brian: Thats because Carroll doesn’t announce when a new blog is up – like DOB does…
abwright
March 24th, 2010
1:07 pm
Phillies versus Braves on ESPN right now.
Yesterday, Conrad stunk it up. Thurston looked pretty good. I wonder if Thurston has the edge on the last bench spot?
Venters didn’t look too good either.
Hope the Braves can throw the ball and catch the ball a little better today against the Phils.